Not to take anything away from Kate Bush, who is undeniably brilliant, but this really shows just how much success in the music industry is dependent on luck and connections. Had her brother not happened to know a friend of a member of one of Britain’s hugest bands at the time, it’s unlikely we would ever have heard of Kate Bush. How many countless unique and extraordinary artists have we lost to eternal obscurity because they weren’t as lucky?
A very valid point. How many more Kate's, Beatles etc would we have? One of the positives resulting from our digital online age is that it gives a platform to talent which otherwise would not have had an outlet.
True, but let's not forget that networking is another skill in its own right. Whether you're a musician or a mechanical engineer, you'll always help yourself by making a conscious effort to network. This is how "luck" becomes the intersection of preparedness and opportunity.
@@booberry6715 That only goes so far, though. You can’t forge family connections out of sheer willpower. It doesn’t even need to be connections to the entertainment business per se. I’m always struck by how wildly overrepresented the children of Doctors (Bush is an example), executives and lawyers are amongst successful actors and musicians. There’s a certain circle that wealth puts you in proximity to that is just not accessible to most people. Added to that is the confidence to pursue a dream that might not be profitable, that comes with the security of knowing you won’t struggle to pay the rent either way.
What??? I have been a huge fan of Kate since 1976. Pink Floyd has been my favorite since around 1972. David Gilmore is my favorite Guitar player. Now, in late 2019, I am just finding out about this connection. I am stunned, comfortably stunned.
Genius knows genius. Dave Gilmour is an amazingly modest and generous guy, a brilliant musician, a out of the limelight philanthropist. Thank goodness he persisted with getting Kate Bush's talent recognised. The rest is history.
Damn its good to finally find this. I've been telling this story for decades and NOBODY believes me. Kate is an amazing talent, and always has been. Good on ya Dave. Its not every rock star that would take the time to push a talent like her into getting her heard. We're so grateful.
There is a documentary on Kate Bush that mentions how David helped her out. I had not heard of his important contribution before that. It is on youtube somewhere.
Has anyone read the albums cover production notes Cleary states produced by David Gilmore” Since 1978 when her 1st came out that has been there for every one to read
@@colinbyne6940 Only executive producer on two tracks "Saxophone Song" and "Man With The Child In His Eyes" Andrew Powell is the producer, plus arranges and plays instruments.
Damn, this is amazing. Kate is a living legend for sure, but i am really sad not many people know about this goddess. And Gilmour is my all time musical inspiration. Thanks a fuckin million for uploading this.
she surely deserved much more fame.....atleast as much as Bowie and definitely much more than today's popstars and teen sensations, which is sadly not the case, may be because she did not tour much. She was much ahead of her times even when she herself was a teenager.
blows my mind that if it weren't for my favorite artist, I may have never heard of my other favorite artist. both have so much musical talent it's unreal.
I was introduced to her music in the early 90s right after Rubber band Girl and was immediately taken. I had the whole catalog to catch up on for the next few years. It became commonplace for me to hear something of hers and it was amazing. Yes that's Kate that's what she always does and I listened to little else. Now when I revisit those albums I am taken aback even more at the diversity and insight. The poetry. Now that I am older. She makes me fall to pieces, something few artists can do.
Explains a lot as to why Kate was so into producing her own music, building her own company and sound studio. She had experienced a lot of help who just didn't get her.
This is a great inside story, and reflects David’s cynicism of the music industry. I would have liked to hear him mention how Kate did better as she gained more control of the production aspects, even at her young age.
Yeah, I saw that when I was young. The SNL performance blew me away weird and magical. Nothing else like it or as rememberable before or after. Was a fan ever since.
I was a little boy when babooshka is appeared in my world. Thanks kate and thanks David. Sorry for my poor English language I'm French lol. Kate is great i love her, Dave is great because pink Floyd and because he's "discover" kate bush...from a fan cure...
I believe the industry figures didn't think they "got it right" because her work is unprecedented, unlike anything they've ever heard and this is why they didn't quite knew what to do with a clever little girl centuries ahead of her time.
Interesting that EMI managed "to keep Kate down for a couple of years" - even after Dave Gilmour set it all up for them. Like casting pearls before swine. Too often in Britain they keep good men & women down (T.E. Lawrence - Lawrence of Arabia - is another example). Fortunately they couldn't keep this woman down forever. What a dull world it would have been without her. Kate Bush CBE and Dave Gilmour CBE - 2 amazing talents and both impressively normal, decent people,
Tony Y - E.M.I “kept her back” because she was far too young and not ready to be a pop star. She had left school early when she got her contract, moved into a flat below her brothers and learnt dance and mime during that time. I don’t suppose a girl at the age of 15/16 would have enjoyed the spotlight (and we know that Kate didn’t anyway!). I think that time was crucial for her to find herself.
"The Music Business is a cruel and shallow money trench, a long plastic hallway where thieves and pimps run free, and good men die like dogs. There's also a negative side." - Hunter S. Thompson
Great to see some acknowledgement that not all men were out to impede the progress of talented women & that history shows some great men actually went out of their way to assist
"It doesn't matter how many producers we throw at her, we can't get anything sounding as good as that David Gilmour tape!" "Why don't we use the producer that made the David Gilmour tape sound good?" "No, he's smelly." Studio execs, lol.
Amazing to the point interview. You just take the singer with talent, and combine her with others with amazing talent. That is all you have to do. Simple! I like how David Gilmour is very factual about the business side as well. They have to make a profit and there are so many retreads out there that you can waste a lot of time and money going in circles.
I’m sure the producers who EMI picked were very talented otherwise the record company wouldn’t have picked them. But Gilmour discovered her and heard something that the executives didn’t. He matched her up with someone who he knew could bring out her strengths
"We just don't like him very much ..." So-called record executives are idiots. They would've missed Kate Bush but for Dave Gilmour. They would have missed Queen but for Kenny Everett. And who can forget, "Four boy guitar bands are over, Mr Epstein." Record executives have given us Kylie Minogue, One Direction, The Bay City Rollers and would have suffered the careers of anyone decent if they had had their way. There are so many absolutely amazing bands on the net now that no-one has heard of, and all we get on radio is the same old disposable tosh. You have to go a long way past anything a record executive can come up with the find the art.
Kylie Minogue was probably a product at the beginning of her career but she knew how to evolve and create her own musical universe. Some of her songs are pretty good. Her career has spanned more than 30 years. She has nothing to do with your argument.
@@Inyourlap Fever is incredible and one of the best pop albums ever made. Impossible Princess is excellent too, an ambitious album that's more appreciated now than when it first came out. It's idiotic to dismiss Kylie just because of the corny teenybopper stuff she was doing early on in her career.
I had a SIGNED copy of the "Lion Heart" album of which there is probably about 6 in the entire world. I say "had" as some feckin Pikey builders nicked it when I was having some work done in my flat!
@michaelevens7015 Just checked my DSOTM copy. Produced by Pink Floyd. Engineered by Alan Parsons. Andrew Powell did do Kate's early recording sessions though.
I been looking for this comment for a long time, I totally agree 💯 percent, and also maybe the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame! I tried to nominate her this year (2022) but too late maybe next year, what you think, let’s campaign!
That isn't David Gilmour playing the solo. It's a guy called Ian Bairnson. It's very much a humbucker on the neck pickup sound which is quite heavily overdriven. Gilmour's sound is more of your single coil affair - strat usually. (although he does use Les Paul's and other Humbucker guitars occasionally)
tableface77 please don't call Ian Bairson a guy He record every single hit of Alan Parsons and Played all his life with Jet ohh ohh ohh it's magic !! I love Gilmour and Kate.. but Don't under rate Ian best regards
It isn't "who you know". Genius level talent is so obvious to those who are in that artistic field that everyone who does that instantly recognises it and supports them and gravitates to them. The jealous think "well if DG pushed ME, I would be a star as well" and miss the point. Gilmour put up the studio time and called in favours because he could see the massive talent. If you were as talented as Yoyoka at 12 or Kate Bush at 15 or Eminem at 24 and Snoop at 21, they would find you. Sorry, but talent recognises talent.
Thank flux for David, I think Kate is tenacious, and perhaps would have made it on her own, eventually, but it makes you wonder just how much potential has been lost over the years because of record company ineptitude...
I don't think she would have. Huge talent though she is, she needed that break in an industry that only recognises a tiny fraction of the incredible pool of talent and which is, or at least was, very heavily weighted in favour of male artistes.
Agree w/ Chis Emge. Me too. The Dreaming was wonderful, especially while shoomin'... back in late '70s. I can't believe she's only getting her props now.
+thedarkness97 "Bit by bit, part by part, until the creature was complete... Then we set her loose upon the world, straightened up the lab, and had a spot of tea, muahahahaha!" LOL
Ever since seeing the " love and anger" video back in the 80's I've always wondered if David was more involved in her career. Wasn't the type to just play on someone track to help out the studio.
Its a hypothetical. She could well have been nurtured at the right time by the right people. Destiny plays its part with a lot of artists. Agree that she was a gifted youngster though.
Well, I don't know about destiny, at least not the supernatural aspect of it. I don't think anything is predetermined, if that's what you meant. It either happens or it doesn't, and that's based on a lot of different factors that are both intentionally done by the individual and outside occurrences that are purely random (both good and bad.) But of course, having an immense amount of talent like Kate Bush does kind of stacks the deck in your favor. And of course determination is a HUGE part of success. I believe someone, somewhere, somehow would have "discovered" her sooner or later without too much outside help.
I hate to say it, but there's little justice. The world is full of undiscovered musical geniuses, (even hard working ones), and the charts are full of Biebers. Thank you David Gilmour.
Probably not; she is far too bold, uncompromising, and esoteric. Then again, Laurie Anderson got signed and Siouxsie, so...probably. She did benefit a bit from the era of the late-70s. Labels were much freer in allowing experimental artists a chance. But with Dave Gilmour vouching for her, she was signed instantly.
David is pulling back the curtain here just a bit. I'm sure things have changed quite bit since this interview. Nowadays, artists or stars if you will are manufactured, autotuned and packaged by talent mangers instead of being discovered. But, 30-40 years ago great talent could just be found. Although, I'm sure it didn't hurt to have a friend of a friend who just happened to be in Pink Floyd. 😁
@@x-vector7245 🤣🤣🤣 it’s a good read, very funny. I once saw one from a man being interviewed and he mentioned his son Fraser, and it came up as ‘phrase whore’ 😂
Hell no. I wouldn't run it! it's quite a hill up to Top Withins, a ruined farmhouse thought to be the inspiration for the location of the Earnshaw house in Wuthering Heights. It's very boggy in places! My wife and I hike it regularly. I'm 68 and been roaming those moors since 60+ years.
@@charlesswitzer8378 Yes. "Maybe" was later renamed "Humming" and is included on Kate's album "Other Sides" disc 2 of a 4 record collection. Recently bought a copy on vinyl.
An interesting fact is that Kate's first TV appearance was on a German TV programme called "Bio's Bahnhof", hosted by a man called Alfred Biolek. He was also the man who brought Monty Python to Germany, where they did a few programmes in (pretty atrocious) German. There are a few clips here at youtube. Just search for biolek kate bush and biolek monty python.
Did you know that the first Monty Python movie was partially financed by Pink Floyd? Just heard that little tidbit watching a Netflix show about Monty Pythian. Just one more reason to love Pink Floyd.
@@scgaliop7921 - actually I did know that because Michael Palin mentions it in one of his diaries. Not just Pink Floyd - Led Zep put up some of the money too.
Come in here, dear boy, have a cigar You're gonna go far, you're gonna fly You're never gonna die You're gonna make it if you try They're gonna love you Well I've always had a deep respect And I mean that most sincere The band is just fantastic That is really what I think Oh by the way, which one's pink? And did we tell you the name of the game, boy We call it 'riding the gravy train'.
@@greggasiorowski4025 Absolutely. Have a cover : ua-cam.com/video/HD1L_LOxme0/v-deo.html Music industry taints everything : ua-cam.com/video/qz1sRrTAdQ4/v-deo.html
I get your drift but she had a hardish first part of her life, her father was unemployed due to regional economic depression and hey she's an artist of the 1980s probably anti Thatcher and very Labour / left wing for the worker type.
Just a shame he didn't link his comments about the music industry with "have a cigar" which is guess what? About greed of music industry execs. Or was this done when he and Roger waters weren't talking?
The record biz contains a bunch of WANNA be lawyers who must validate their hi paying gigs by giving stupid opinions..it's always been that way...always will be!
She was sixteen at the time. David would’ve have been 30 or something. She was the sister of a friend that’s been friends with a friend of David. Does that make sense? Anyway, I don’t know if they had the hots for each other, but David married and Kate was just 16. I don’t think so. Haven’t you listened to the video!
Nobody in the comments mentions her odd Dad. EMI Labs.The Tavistock Institute. MI Units...On another note I just watched the documentary Mondo Hollywood that's just been released. Check out Frank Zappa's house from 1967 and watch the 'PLAN' come to life ...G...
David Gilmour didn't discover Kate Bush, a friend of a friend told him about her, after which he listened to her tapes, but he had no real influence on her. it was more like a friend doing a favour for a friend of.
Correct! His name was Ricky Hopper and he was a friend of David and also a friend of one of Kate's brothers. David is listed as executive producer on 2 songs on The Kick Inside which suggests he put up the money to pay for her to go into Abbey Road.
Not the first time that EMI has shown themselves up for being a bunch of halfwits, just look at the movie Bohemian Rhapsody where they thought they knew better than Freddie Mercury and the rest of Queen.
I had about 40 or 50 songs. I wasn't a particularly attractive girl. I only wish that David Gilmour would have given my music a listen. Running up that hill? I could have crushed that. But so be it. People are attracted to what they want. It wasn't me.
Truckngirl Yes, but for me "Running Up That Hill" is one of her weaker numbers. How about some of her better tunes? Even songs she wrote as a 15 year old were better than R.U.T.H.
Not to take anything away from Kate Bush, who is undeniably brilliant, but this really shows just how much success in the music industry is dependent on luck and connections. Had her brother not happened to know a friend of a member of one of Britain’s hugest bands at the time, it’s unlikely we would ever have heard of Kate Bush. How many countless unique and extraordinary artists have we lost to eternal obscurity because they weren’t as lucky?
A very valid point. How many more Kate's, Beatles etc would we have? One of the positives resulting from our digital online age is that it gives a platform to talent which otherwise would not have had an outlet.
True, but let's not forget that networking is another skill in its own right. Whether you're a musician or a mechanical engineer, you'll always help yourself by making a conscious effort to network. This is how "luck" becomes the intersection of preparedness and opportunity.
@@booberry6715 That only goes so far, though. You can’t forge family connections out of sheer willpower. It doesn’t even need to be connections to the entertainment business per se. I’m always struck by how wildly overrepresented the children of Doctors (Bush is an example), executives and lawyers are amongst successful actors and musicians. There’s a certain circle that wealth puts you in proximity to that is just not accessible to most people. Added to that is the confidence to pursue a dream that might not be profitable, that comes with the security of knowing you won’t struggle to pay the rent either way.
Lots. It is luck but you got to get out there.
@@davidlambert7725 Certainly she would have emerged one way or another.
What??? I have been a huge fan of Kate since 1976. Pink Floyd has been my favorite since around 1972. David Gilmore is my favorite Guitar player. Now, in late 2019, I am just finding out about this connection. I am stunned, comfortably stunned.
I knew there was a connection but I didn't know how..... Very interesting stuff
‘Comfortably Stunned’ 🤣😂
It’s Gilmour your fave guitarist ffs
Hounds of love samples the helicopter from the Wall
@@stuartwilson7190 I did not know that, thanks mate !
Bloody hell Gilmour. Not only do we owe you for your work in Floyd we also owe you for bringing us Kate Bush! Thanks mate.
Man that blew my mind
Genius knows genius. Dave Gilmour is an amazingly modest and generous guy, a brilliant musician, a out of the limelight philanthropist. Thank goodness he persisted with getting Kate Bush's talent recognised. The rest is history.
David Gilmour is a f*cking legend. Kate too. Nice interview, thanks for posting it and for the pics!
All these years later it still seems incredible that a teenager wrote the songs that appear on the Kick Inside.
_Thirteen_ when she wrote The Man With The Child In His Eyes - simply astonishing.
Gilmour is a gem. Bless him.
Damn its good to finally find this. I've been telling this story for decades and NOBODY believes me. Kate is an amazing talent, and always has been. Good on ya Dave. Its not every rock star that would take the time to push a talent like her into getting her heard. We're so grateful.
He did the same for Phil manzanera
There is a documentary on Kate Bush that mentions how David helped her out. I had not heard of his important contribution before that. It is on youtube somewhere.
Has anyone read the albums cover production notes
Cleary states produced by David Gilmore”
Since 1978 when her 1st came out that has been there for every one to read
@@colinbyne6940 Only executive producer on two tracks "Saxophone Song" and "Man With The Child In His Eyes" Andrew Powell is the producer, plus arranges and plays instruments.
Ive told peole this for yrs, long before that new remix, David Gilmour is a gentleman & a genius.
KATE BUSH She's the real Queen of England
idiot
@@daviddavid1972 why?
David is that your title 🤡
No, that was Freddie Mercury, Brian May, John Deacon and Roger Taylor.
@@davidlambert7725 LOL
Damn, this is amazing. Kate is a living legend for sure, but i am really sad not many people know about this goddess. And Gilmour is my all time musical inspiration. Thanks a fuckin million for uploading this.
Not many people know (her) ? she sells millions of albums
I'm sure he means in the US, where she is not terribly well known
she surely deserved much more fame.....atleast as much as Bowie and definitely much more than today's popstars and teen sensations, which is sadly not the case, may be because she did not tour much. She was much ahead of her times even when she herself was a teenager.
The Americans doesn't understand smart music like this, its too Havy for them
Plenty of us do. Also, much more effective to insult the intelligence of Americans with good grammar and spelling
blows my mind that if it weren't for my favorite artist, I may have never heard of my other favorite artist. both have so much musical talent it's unreal.
He found a genius who has enriched our lives with her amazing voice and songs. God bless you David, what a discovery.
They couldn't'
Get it right, because she was more talented then those producers, she excels!
Pink Floyd is my favourite band and I just discovered Kate Bush and had no idea David helped start her career
so cool that two of my faves knew each other and helped each other
Thank god for Gilmour for giving us Kate.
I was introduced to her music in the early 90s right after Rubber band Girl and was immediately taken. I had the whole catalog to catch up on for the next few years. It became commonplace for me to hear something of hers and it was amazing. Yes that's Kate that's what she always does and I listened to little else. Now when I revisit those albums I am taken aback even more at the diversity and insight. The poetry. Now that I am older. She makes me fall to pieces, something few artists can do.
david just described welcome to the machine in this interview
Or was it "Have a Cigar"?
Explains a lot as to why Kate was so into producing her own music, building her own company and sound studio. She had experienced a lot of help who just didn't get her.
I'm forever grateful to him.
This is a great inside story, and reflects David’s cynicism of the music industry. I would have liked to hear him mention how Kate did better as she gained more control of the production aspects, even at her young age.
David Gilmour is so great!
When I saw Kate on SNL, I fell in love with her and her music! God, has that been nearly 40 years now?!
You witnessed her only American performance live on TV as it happened. Damn! Or was it a rerun?
Me too. Hard to believe it was that long ago.
Yeah, I saw that when I was young. The SNL performance blew me away weird and magical. Nothing else like it or as rememberable before or after. Was a fan ever since.
@@martinpitts3861 it was live !
I was a little boy when babooshka is appeared in my world. Thanks kate and thanks David. Sorry for my poor English language I'm French lol. Kate is great i love her, Dave is great because pink Floyd and because he's "discover" kate bush...from a fan cure...
I believe the industry figures didn't think they "got it right" because her work is unprecedented, unlike anything they've ever heard and this is why they didn't quite knew what to do with a clever little girl centuries ahead of her time.
What a fantastic find. Good on you David Gilmour
Interesting that EMI managed "to keep Kate down for a couple of years" - even after Dave Gilmour set it all up for them. Like casting pearls before swine. Too often in Britain they keep good men & women down (T.E. Lawrence - Lawrence of Arabia - is another example). Fortunately they couldn't keep this woman down forever. What a dull world it would have been without her. Kate Bush CBE and Dave Gilmour CBE - 2 amazing talents and both impressively normal, decent people,
Tony Y - E.M.I “kept her back” because she was far too young and not ready to be a pop star. She had left school early when she got her contract, moved into a flat below her brothers and learnt dance and mime during that time. I don’t suppose a girl at the age of 15/16 would have enjoyed the spotlight (and we know that Kate didn’t anyway!). I think that time was crucial for her to find herself.
Gilmour..........❤
love kate bush and learning about how she came about. didn't know she was so young when she started. found her in 1989 in San Francisco
Thank you david for helping kate bush an amazing talented woman with a heavenly voice, ask Peter Gabriel
I love listening to Dave telling this story
david thank you very much
I thought Mr Bean discovered her in the woods with the bears, singing, "Sha-la-la ..."
"The Music Business is a cruel and shallow money trench, a long plastic hallway where thieves and pimps run free, and good men die like dogs. There's also a negative side." - Hunter S. Thompson
Great to see some acknowledgement that not all men were out to impede the progress of talented women & that history shows some great men actually went out of their way to assist
Gilmour saw talent, not gender. Thank God the music industry has, to a large extent, changed it's tune - pun intended.
Number 1 this week. 👌👍
Thanks, Dave, for Kate!
The man in the second photo is actually The Man with the Child in His Eyes (Steve Blacknell) not David Gilmour.
I had no idea that Gilmour got her started. I know he also helped Dream Academy who did Life In A Northern Town.
I'm just finding this after all these years.
"It doesn't matter how many producers we throw at her, we can't get anything sounding as good as that David Gilmour tape!"
"Why don't we use the producer that made the David Gilmour tape sound good?"
"No, he's smelly."
Studio execs, lol.
Amazing to the point interview. You just take the singer with talent, and combine her with others with amazing talent. That is all you have to do. Simple! I like how David Gilmour is very factual about the business side as well. They have to make a profit and there are so many retreads out there that you can waste a lot of time and money going in circles.
I’m sure the producers who EMI picked were very talented otherwise the record company wouldn’t have picked them. But Gilmour discovered her and heard something that the executives didn’t. He matched her up with someone who he knew could bring out her strengths
David had Kate's six o'clock all along. Thank you, sir.
Woooooooooooooow! Greatest artists, wonderfully!
Dave loves his fretless bass...
"We just don't like him very much ..."
So-called record executives are idiots. They would've missed Kate Bush but for Dave Gilmour. They would have missed Queen but for Kenny Everett. And who can forget, "Four boy guitar bands are over, Mr Epstein." Record executives have given us Kylie Minogue, One Direction, The Bay City Rollers and would have suffered the careers of anyone decent if they had had their way. There are so many absolutely amazing bands on the net now that no-one has heard of, and all we get on radio is the same old disposable tosh. You have to go a long way past anything a record executive can come up with the find the art.
Minogue has some legit good songs for the genre she is in, other than that I agree.
I completely agree.
Here have a downvote for putting Kylie Minogue in the same category as One Direction and the Bay City Rollers.
Kylie Minogue was probably a product at the beginning of her career but she knew how to evolve and create her own musical universe. Some of her songs are pretty good. Her career has spanned more than 30 years. She has nothing to do with your argument.
@@Inyourlap Fever is incredible and one of the best pop albums ever made. Impossible Princess is excellent too, an ambitious album that's more appreciated now than when it first came out.
It's idiotic to dismiss Kylie just because of the corny teenybopper stuff she was doing early on in her career.
What an amazing story.
Dave knows good when he hears it
Wow! Would be nice,to be able to say,that David Gilour,discovered me!
I had a SIGNED copy of the "Lion Heart" album of which there is probably about 6 in the entire world. I say "had" as some feckin Pikey builders nicked it when I was having some work done in my flat!
He must be referring to Andrew Powell, who was in the Alan Parsons Project who produced Dark Side of the Moon
@michaelevens7015 Just checked my DSOTM copy. Produced by Pink Floyd. Engineered by Alan Parsons. Andrew Powell did do Kate's early recording sessions though.
Im awaiting for the announcement..Dame Kate Bush...long overdue
I been looking for this comment for a long time, I totally agree 💯 percent, and also maybe the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame! I tried to nominate her this year (2022) but too late maybe next year, what you think, let’s campaign!
Gilmours solo in wuthering heights is typical of his style, awsome.
I stand corrected.
Either way I love that solo.
That isn't David Gilmour playing the solo. It's a guy called Ian Bairnson. It's very much a humbucker on the neck pickup sound which is quite heavily overdriven. Gilmour's sound is more of your single coil affair - strat usually. (although he does use Les Paul's and other Humbucker guitars occasionally)
tableface77 please don't call Ian Bairson a guy
He record every single hit of Alan Parsons and Played all his life with Jet ohh ohh ohh it's magic !!
I love Gilmour and Kate.. but Don't under rate Ian
best regards
Well, he is, technically, a guy, isn't he? When did nominating someone by gender become an insult?
It isn't "who you know".
Genius level talent is so obvious to those who are in that artistic field that everyone who does that instantly recognises it and supports them and gravitates to them.
The jealous think "well if DG pushed ME, I would be a star as well" and miss the point.
Gilmour put up the studio time and called in favours because he could see the massive talent.
If you were as talented as Yoyoka at 12 or Kate Bush at 15 or Eminem at 24 and Snoop at 21, they would find you.
Sorry, but talent recognises talent.
Two legends - Kate and David.
Haha., Love he "corrects the record" on that 2 year delay after signing her at EMI
Thank flux for David, I think Kate is tenacious, and perhaps would have made it on her own, eventually, but it makes you wonder just how much potential has been lost over the years because of record company ineptitude...
I don't think she would have. Huge talent though she is, she needed that break in an industry that only recognises a tiny fraction of the incredible pool of talent and which is, or at least was, very heavily weighted in favour of male artistes.
Agree w/ Chis Emge. Me too. The Dreaming was wonderful, especially while shoomin'... back in late '70s. I can't believe she's only getting her props now.
Fascinating, Thanks M. Gilmour. It goes to show how the record companies eggheads cover up their own bollocks…
The second picture showing is wrong and misleading!
That's not David Gilmour but Kate Bush's first boyfriend Steve Blacknell.
Natmanprime oh dear......you're one of those
No one's being "mislead" for God's sake - how emotionally invested in this do you think normal people are? You need help!
take a chill pill, you're the one who needs help @@kelrogers8480
Kate is the true queen of pop
I had a friend that knew someone's uncle who's son was a milkman to Paul McCartney's best friend at school. It got me nowhere...
Lol "I put her together with an engineer" Just sounds funny..
thedarkness97
He's modest for a genius!
+thedarkness97 "Bit by bit, part by part, until the creature was complete... Then we set her loose upon the world, straightened up the lab, and had a spot of tea, muahahahaha!" LOL
We can rebuild her. We have the technology!
Awesome!. Quiz time!. What were the three tracks?
I want to thank Dave’s parents for inventing Dave.
Imagine .... David Gilmour and Roger Waters somehow didn't meet.... No pink Floyd and no Kate Bush. What luck!!!
@boomerrob9223 Dave was originally a mate of Syd Barrett.
Nice audio
Ever since seeing the " love and anger" video back in the 80's I've always wondered if David was more involved in her career. Wasn't the type to just play on someone track to help out the studio.
He played on tracks by Kirsty MacColl and Sam Brown back in the '80s. Probably more but those are two I have that come to mind immediately.
billy kelly Also played on "Rocket's Tail" and sang backing vocals on "Pull Out The Pin"
Strange things happen 😎😎
Kate Bush is everything
David Gilmour helped Kate Bush a lot early on, but her immense talent would have become well known even if he never met her.
Its a hypothetical. She could well have been nurtured at the right time by the right people. Destiny plays its part with a lot of artists. Agree that she was a gifted youngster though.
Well, I don't know about destiny, at least not the supernatural aspect of it. I don't think anything is predetermined, if that's what you meant. It either happens or it doesn't, and that's based on a lot of different factors that are both intentionally done by the individual and outside occurrences that are purely random (both good and bad.) But of course, having an immense amount of talent like Kate Bush does kind of stacks the deck in your favor. And of course determination is a HUGE part of success. I believe someone, somewhere, somehow would have "discovered" her sooner or later without too much outside help.
I hate to say it, but there's little justice. The world is full of undiscovered musical geniuses, (even hard working ones), and the charts are full of Biebers. Thank you David Gilmour.
Probably not; she is far too bold, uncompromising, and esoteric. Then again, Laurie Anderson got signed and Siouxsie, so...probably. She did benefit a bit from the era of the late-70s. Labels were much freer in allowing experimental artists a chance. But with Dave Gilmour vouching for her, she was signed instantly.
David is pulling back the curtain here just a bit. I'm sure things have changed quite bit since this interview. Nowadays, artists or stars if you will are manufactured, autotuned and packaged by talent mangers instead of being discovered.
But, 30-40 years ago great talent could just be found. Although, I'm sure it didn't hurt to have a friend of a friend who just happened to be in Pink Floyd. 😁
The translation is funny, EMI came up as Ear Mines 😂
"When you discovered cable issues...".
@@x-vector7245 🤣🤣🤣 it’s a good read, very funny. I once saw one from a man being interviewed and he mentioned his son Fraser, and it came up as ‘phrase whore’ 😂
running up that hill - all the way up to wuthering heights
Hell no. I wouldn't run it! it's quite a hill up to Top Withins, a ruined farmhouse thought to be the inspiration for the location of the Earnshaw house in Wuthering Heights. It's very boggy in places! My wife and I hike it regularly. I'm 68 and been roaming those moors since 60+ years.
Does anyone know which 3 songs Gilmour picked out of the 40 songs Kate had written up until then?
The Man With the Child in His Eyes, Saxophone Song, and Maybe. "Maybe" was never used, but can be heard online.
@@charlesswitzer8378 Yes. "Maybe" was later renamed "Humming" and is included on Kate's album "Other Sides" disc 2 of a 4 record collection. Recently bought a copy on vinyl.
An interesting fact is that Kate's first TV appearance was on a German TV programme called "Bio's Bahnhof", hosted by a man called Alfred Biolek. He was also the man who brought Monty Python to Germany, where they did a few programmes in (pretty atrocious) German. There are a few clips here at youtube. Just search for biolek kate bush and biolek monty python.
Did you know that the first Monty Python movie was partially financed by Pink Floyd? Just heard that little tidbit watching a Netflix show about Monty Pythian. Just one more reason to love Pink Floyd.
@@scgaliop7921 - actually I did know that because Michael Palin mentions it in one of his diaries. Not just Pink Floyd - Led Zep put up some of the money too.
@@probablygraham I heard that too. I’m just a bigger Pink Floyd fan than Led Zapplin😁.
@@scgaliop7921 - Me too !
@@probablygraham You have great musical taste!
Have a Cigar ,
literally Hoppa and Eleven..
Wow, what a story!
We've been living a lie...
Record labels : ruining artistry since the beginning.
No. Now record labels are far behind of those who steals music from torrents. Those people are ruining artists now
Come in here, dear boy, have a cigar
You're gonna go far, you're gonna fly
You're never gonna die
You're gonna make it if you try
They're gonna love you
Well I've always had a deep respect
And I mean that most sincere
The band is just fantastic
That is really what I think
Oh by the way, which one's pink?
And did we tell you the name of the game, boy
We call it 'riding the gravy train'.
@@greggasiorowski4025 Absolutely. Have a cover :
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Music industry taints everything :
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@@xfilesfoxisdead7979 bros living in 2002
this is fotorotomotoloto
"Look at the little poppet I've found, lol"
EJFBHEJSDKMCV BGTRED
thought her to be manager Richard Ames discovered her & got her record contracts???
Yeah but he also thought Seamus was a good singer
But he WAS!
look for Margo Mars.
She very well might be the new Kate Bush
She may be talented, but there’s only on e Kate Bush. No more.
Oddly my female music artist of all time, Annie Lennox comes a close second followed by siouxsie sioux.
I DETEST Annie - feckin opinionated - Lennox!
I get your drift but she had a hardish first part of her life, her father was unemployed due to regional economic depression and hey she's an artist of the 1980s probably anti Thatcher and very Labour / left wing for the worker type.
Yep! that's EXACTLY what I meant! A singing Leftie Luvie!
If you want some Rightie Tighties, knock yourself out with some Ted Nugget and Kid Rock. XD
Dusty Springfield!
Kate bush tho 😍
Al Buckle!
Ai tem.
Sounds more like it..
Just a shame he didn't link his comments about the music industry with "have a cigar" which is guess what? About greed of music industry execs. Or was this done when he and Roger waters weren't talking?
I remember when I discovered bush. I was 15.
Unnecessary smut from a third form prat.
Funny though. 🎄
Oh dear 😋🤣
Is the guy at 1:01 Gilmour? Sure doesn't look like him to me.
It was her boyfriend back then.
Kinda looks like Gilmour tbh. Maybe she had one of those role model crushes
The record biz contains a bunch of WANNA be lawyers who must validate their hi paying gigs by giving stupid opinions..it's always been that way...always will be!
Bring back the bush 😳
Incredible, did they Date at all or were just Friends?
Jamie Hellfire They also performed together - she sang Comfortably Numb with him, you can find it on UA-cam.
They no doubt had a bit of the hots for each other, but there's no telling if anything came of it.
She was sixteen at the time. David would’ve have been 30 or something. She was the sister of a friend that’s been friends with a friend of David. Does that make sense? Anyway, I don’t know if they had the hots for each other, but David married and Kate was just 16. I don’t think so. Haven’t you listened to the video!
Nobody in the comments mentions her odd Dad. EMI Labs.The Tavistock Institute. MI Units...On another note I just watched the documentary Mondo Hollywood that's just been released. Check out Frank Zappa's house from 1967 and watch the 'PLAN' come to life ...G...
David Gilmour didn't discover Kate Bush, a friend of a friend told him about her, after which he listened to her tapes, but he had no real influence on her. it was more like a friend doing a favour for a friend of.
A friend of a friend can't get you a record contract, when you sell as many albums as Dark Side of the Moon, doors open for you!
Correct! His name was Ricky Hopper and he was a friend of David and also a friend of one of Kate's brothers. David is listed as executive producer on 2 songs on The Kick Inside which suggests he put up the money to pay for her to go into Abbey Road.
I think paying for first demos of a 16 year old, and getting a producer who then produced her first two albums qualifies as "discovered"
Koen Strobbe I've discovered lots of things that others have known about before me. It depends on what context you're using the word in.
Not the first time that EMI has shown themselves up for being a bunch of halfwits, just look at the movie Bohemian Rhapsody where they thought they knew better than Freddie Mercury and the rest of Queen.
I had about 40 or 50 songs. I wasn't a particularly attractive girl. I only wish that David Gilmour would have given my music a listen. Running up that hill? I could have crushed that. But so be it. People are attracted to what they want. It wasn't me.
Truckngirl Yes, but for me "Running Up That Hill" is one of her weaker numbers. How about some of her better tunes? Even songs she wrote as a 15 year old were better than R.U.T.H.
were you a sister of one of Dave's friends?
why are you so bitter, music is music, who cares if you're big. if that's a main concern of yours then stop making music, it's not for you.