DAVID GILMOUR "WISH YOU WERE HERE" 2 : THE TRIALS OF MAKING " OUR MOST COMPLETE ALBUM "
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In 2011, I interviewed the Pink Floyd legend DAVID GILMOUR about the making of the album 'Wish You Were Here' . I recently unearthed some outtakes from the interview on an old hard drive. Enjoy!!
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I sang WYWH at my son's grave years ago. Just me, a candle, and the coyotes in the treeline. 🌹
Sorry!! For your loss!! My friend.. that particular song WYWH IS MY ALL TIME FAVORITE, IM 63 YEARS OLD AND EVEN TODAY I STILL CAN'T GET ENOUGH OF IT WHILE PLAYING MY GUITAR 🎸... SEEMS LIKE OF ALL THE SONGS THAT I HAVE MASTERED ON THE GUITAR, THIS SONG BRINGS BACK A LOT OF MEMORIES... YOUR REPLY WAS SHORT AND SWEET!! ...BUT PUT TEARS IN MY EYES WHILE DRINKING MY COFFEE AT 5 AM.. AGAIN!! SO SORRY FOR YOUR LOST MY FRIEND!! BUT YOUR SON IS STILL WITH YOU IN SPIRIT!!...GOD BLESS!!!!......
David gilmour is definitely not your typical Rockstar. Intelligent, articulate extremely well spoken and he is one of the best guitar players ever when you hear him play you know who it is.
David is exceptional personality, Highly educated, intelligent, well spoken, precise, decent. Big talent! Shining to this day (and luckily very sane) diamond!
Typical?
Go listen to most of the prog interviews, thats the british public schooling. Actually MOST of the rockstars I've heard talk fit into that category. GE Smith worked with Roger and Bob Dylan and dozens of rockstars and points out that most of the people who make it big have BIG intelligence, along with a fair bit of luck. But come on, who are you talking to that can't carry on a conversation? I think one thing that must piss a lot of these people off is when people talk as if they are godlike or something. I know a LOT of good guitar players and a few great ones. Hell I remember this guy who was a sad accountant because he gave up on his dream. He lived alone but was an amazing guitarist AND drummer and would spend every night alone playing, well, a lot of pink floyd. Of course inspiration is a big part of genius, but even David constantly says "I was just playing the blues". And as other entertainers have said "what else did I have to do?"
@@mikearchibald744 David Gilmour can say anything he wants. Things that you're saying is nonsense.
He's slightly autistic and that is why he's politely nice he does rock star out when needed he is just really lazy
Thank you David Gilmour for being in this space of time. Thank you for your mastery of tone infused with emotion. Thank you.
David Gilmour is in my top 5 guitarist of all time
Geddon ! David Gilmour still the best lead guitarist'to ever walk the earth'keep on keepin'on ..❤️🎶💯
don't confuse best with favorite
nahhh. Ian Bairnson was far, far, far, far, far better
I’ll never tire of hearing how PF created my favorite music. I listen to some of their work almost daily. It grounds me and fills me up. I am so glad to have been raised during a time where music was intelligent, experimental and vibrant. Their music is some of the best ever written and it’s absolutely timeless.
One of my favorite things about David Gilmour is that even through the roughest points of the feud and tensions between him and Roger, David really remained fair-minded and complimentary towards him. In other words, he never dismissed or played down Roger's lyrical abilities, as well as recognizing him as the best choice for the so-called "leader". David freely admits that he didn't want that role once Syd was out, but Roger did. However, when Roger left the band, David chose to assume the role at that point and lent his way and perspective to it. All I know is that from what I've seen in interviews and read, the people who worked with and were a part of Pink Floyd during David's "leadership" days said that he was easy to get along and work with and the tours were some of the best times they ever had. Yes, David DID make some snide remarks about Rog along the way, but compared to what Roger had been saying and doing all along, those remarks pale in comparison. Roger genuinely felt that by him choosing to leave the band, the band would end not even considering the other 3 members. He actually felt that he had the right and the power to just end 3 other peoples careers just like that??!! So when people try to defend Roger and take his pathetic side in all that, I figure they just must be as narcissistic and ego-driven as he is and I leave them to it, sad sots.
That was a good and fair comment right up to the end, mostly because its so inaccurate. Songwriters and guitarists all make a living, nobody stops them. Roger was going on to a solo career, Dave AND Rick had both done solo projects and Nick had produced and ADMITTED that he had no real further interest in being in a band. Pete Townshend or Robert Plant have been solo artists FIVE times longer than they were in a famous band. This has ZERO to do with 'careers'.
So thats just ridiculous. ANybody that knows the history remotely knows that "Pink Floyd' as a BUSINESS was after The Wall essentially bankrupt. It had 'no value'. That was Rogers opinion. Its true and Roger admits now that he was mistaken in views, at the same time, people forget that both Radio KAOS AND Momentary Lapse of Reason were coming out at that time and essentially the lawsuit gave them good press, and there's no such thing as BAD press when selling an album.
So you are making up too much about that. The name ONLY had value as a 'commercial enterprise' and anybody who knows anything about Roger OR Syd, knows that that was one of the very things they feared. As has been said, Pink Floyd is now essentially a brand name, they ALL admit that.
As for commenting, you are forgetting the nineties when David was making ALL kinds of comments about 'carrying' both Nick and Rick, who really were only vaguely interested. Dave outrightly said that 'he' was Pink, despite the fact of what you said, that he wasnt much of a leader, that for Momentary Lapse of Reason he basically rehired Bob Ezrin, who with Guy Pratt pretty much put that album together while Dave was in his coke fueled Pink haze. The much shittier Division Bell had him producing mostly songs that his soon to be wife wrote, most are 'pretty good', but 'pretty good' for Floyd is the same as terrible. Say what you want about how much you may like or dislike Amused to Death, but the lyrics and conceptual album are brilliant. Its not commercial, but then Floyd has never really been commercial.
Like I said, it was a very good comment right up to the 'shitting on people' stage.
@@user-jp5nc8zf7m Sure, superiority complex person, but I'm going to leave you be. You obviously have much more important things to worry about like figuring out a way to dislodge your head from your butt, so have at it....and good luck! 😃👍
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@@user-jp5nc8zf7m ...And maybe if you actually mattered to me I would care wtf you had to say about my comment. Most of what you said was opinion, not fact. I knew it wouldn't be long before the Polly insult would show up. You Roger cultists act as though the sun shines out of his ass. He admits to making a mistake in leaving the band, but David seems over it. He extended a few olive branches to Roger early on, but nothing. Whatever...it's all done now anyway so....there's that.
Note that he speaks slowly and thoughtfully, and yet he never (or very rarely) says "um...". He just pauses, which captivates your attention.
Shine on you Crazy Diamond is probably the greatest song ever recorded.
I could listen to him all day! Lovely voice lovely man
For all their wealth and nice lifestyle I’ve always liked David and nick they are very down to earth.
The greatest album ever made.
I really enjoy these interviews and David Gilmour is always a special treat.🎼
Just found this one. Its great that you got to interview David not once, but twice! He doesn't give too many interviews, and if he does he usually seems uncomfortable. With both interviews he seems pretty relaxed. Nice to know WYWH is his favorite album. Hearing the story of how those four notes just fall out of his black strat never gets old. I am really looking forward to whatever they come up with for the 50th anniversary of WYWH. There is something very universal about that song in particular because we all miss somebody that is not with us anymore. Shine on is much more personalized to Syd. It is very much his song, and it sums up the complete Pink Floyd experience very nicely. It goes through from when they met Syd, to his apex, and his decline all with this beautiful music of the current iteration of the band in the background. Another great interview for posterity.
Thank you ! Much appreciated!
Wish You Were Here is, absolutely is the most emotional album they recorded! No other album has ever evoked more emotion in me. It is my number one desert island album, no question!
It is Colin. I can't listen to it though. The only PF song I can listen to is Another Brick in The Wall. They are musically one of the greatest, David Gilmour one of my favourite guitarists. But...the songs bring me too much emotional pain - and it makes me sad that they make me too sad to listen to. Namaste x
@@humansnotai4912 Try San Tropez, I think you can get through that one.
@@humansnotai4912 I'm so sorry to hear that!
And the "DARK SIDE OF THE MOON" continues to be one of the best selling albums of ALL TIME !
@Johannes C Check out...Easy Star All-Stars version of "MONEY". It is on Dubber Side Of The Moon....respect tp Pink Floyd
If anybody wants to get the sense of what he means about talking to Syd and 'a different plane', look up some interviews with Captain Beefheart, especially in the early eighties when he packed it in, he was most certainly equally genius and at least almost as insane, but when interviewers ask him a question, he sort of kind of addresses it, but he seems to be more answering a question in his head.
YES! So thankful you have all these and what a great job of talking with everyone. It'd be awesome to sit down with David again. Doesn't even have to be a documentary. Just...coffee with Gilmour and Edginton. There would be many guitar players just locked in for that myself included lol.
no words to say how much I thank you!
you are a brilliant interviewer! take care John
Thanks so much !
Wish You Were Here is not a song I would think of at a funeral but surely times after. But it's one I think of in moments, weather alone or with others, that I think of the living that would make a moment better for me or just would fit at that time.
This is wonderful. Can't thank you enough for this. Very much appreciated
We want more of these clips. Keep uploading them. Thank U.
At a point Pink Floyd never meant to be Pop, But it was so good and meaningful, Their music couldn't help being popular,
Thanks for posting the full interview! Great to hear.
Hi JT. Glad you enjoyed it!
This is great. Cool to hear the bits and pieces of the interview that wasn't used and how they fit around the parts that were.
What a courageous interview
This is indeed time most enjoyably spent. Thank you again for conducting, and then sharing, these interviews.
WOW! Thank you both so much for a glimpse into the genius (and sometimes madness) that went into creating this masterpiece!
Wow, the full interview from the Wish You Were Here documentary!? This is incredible stuff!
Wish you were here is the best Floyd album and i have been listening for over 45 years to it
David’s right as a Floyd fan since the early 70s this is my favourite Floyd album, most albums you listen to have tracks that you don’t like but accept it in the whole, even dark side has tracks that are not so enjoyable, but this album is so complete and brilliant to listen to, a true masterpiece
These are all great. Thanks.
I loved this record as a child when it first came out and when playing it, always wondered what the members of the band looked like as there were no pictures of them on the album sleeve. I think this added to the feeling of isolation and absence I always got from the music.
The song of the century..💝💝
Pink Floyd has always been my all time favorite band!! I learned how to play WYWH while watching David play! Then from there I ran with it!!!.. A REAL ICON!!!..
Fantastic musician and interview
Thanks for your appreciation!
Gilmore once said that Rodgers took his riff Wish You Were Here home and came back with those words.
Gilmour, Roger....
Love this channel 😍
Thanks so much for your support!!
@@JOHNEDGINTONDOCUMENTARIES hey John I also love type channel, who would you say has been your favorite interview?
Thanks John. Love these. Wish they were here.
Wish you were here is my fav Floyd album...but I'm more a beatles fan
So enjoying
"It's a big hit at funerals" 😂
Thank you John for another great upload. Love your complete and outtakes interviews. Glad that you have visited your archives.
Hes amazing
Excellent interview
Thanks!
It is my favorite full album of Floyd. All the songs are great .
Such a beautiful human
For many people I know, Floyd from Dark Side became very Cartesian, and I agree. But it's still interesting in some way.
He’s deep and a bit of an intravert as well
Introvert
Their best album in my opinion.
You have to admire that Dave always acknowledges the greatness of the lyrics. But if you keep in mind the seventies were a real time of songwriters, there are lots of really great lyrics to a lot of seventies tracks. Roger always was very brutally honest, but in a very 'relatable way'. Thats a kind of genius when you can say profound things in very simple ways-which he nicely at least partly refers to Syd. I remember him saying how much he liked Peter Gabriels lyrics, but in the seventies Gabriels lyrics were pretty complex and difficult to really nail down their meaning. They used word play SO much that it was kind of impenetrable. Roger was more, dare I say, like Fleetwood Mac or even darer I say, Abba. Very brutally honest yet they were more philosophical, he wasn't writing about romantic relationships until later, so they seem more 'philosophical', but a very accessible kind of philosophy. And as we saw with comfortably numb, the music really formed the parameters of the lyrics. That was definitely missing in Radio KAOS adn Amused to Death, which I partly love simply because they are important topics that musicians were almost never looking at in the eighties, but definitely would have been far better if they had Pink Floyds music wrapped aroudn them. They are almost too harsh to actually enjoy, which is ironic because I think the same thing about Momentary Lapse of Reason, where I think they tried to emulate Roger a little TOO much. I think if they'd gone back to Meddle, that would have been a more satisfying album.
To my mind Wish you were Here was ONLY two songs- Shine on and Wish. The other songs, meh. I know a lot of musicians like them, to me when you see how rich they got, its a little like Storm said, biting the hand that feeds you. However, I get that if you think of 'the machine' (and 'the cigar) and apply it elsewhere, it does have a more universal meaning.
I remember being almost angry one time years ago when I was building instruments and was pondering what a jug band version of pink floyd music would sound like, and found out they had tried that 'album out of household objects', and shit, they really did try almost everything. Even when I listen to Radiohead I can't help but think "meh, reheated Pink Floyd". Richard calls it 'madness', but to me its real musical ingenuity, even if its ultimately unsuccessful. WOuld still like to here a rubber band version of "careful with that axe eugene". You really can't doubt the musicianship of somebody who says "lets try to make an album out of tupperware", thirty years before it became something of a fad.
Whats sad is that if you hear David talk, its almost lyrical listening to him, He seems to think you can ONLY write songs of Roger Waters level of importance. But their early stuff was certainly not that, some of the stuff on Division Bell you can tell he's just starting as a lyricist, but after it he kind of gave it up, at least in Pink Floyd. Whats really ironic is that with Roger going on tirades against not getting his stuff on the Pink Floyd website, I would think Dave even today could come up with some good material relateing to 'frustration'. Its almost too bad that those IN bands are SO close to other members and the history that its very difficult for them to have any kind of perspective, and some of these band's politics are almost Shakespearean. Wish you were here likely could have filled a whole album side. Whenever I think of Pink Floyd I'm sort of reminded of that Ramones documentary where that drummer, I forget his name, but he talks about how Johnny and Joey could sit in the same van travelling town to town and just utterly DESPISING one another, even though they HAD lots of money. I think a lot of people are attracted to notions of celebrity because these people just seem kind of outrightly crazy. But I guess if you are THAT much into music, and somebody else can add to what you are doing, its kind of like staying in a relationship because of really good sex.
The Division Bell his wife Polly wrote most of the lyrics.
wow. This was a very interesting take on the album to read, and I must say, oh-so-very accurate! Thank you.
We played Shine On You Crazy Diamond at my Sisters funeral
Sorry about your sister. Was there anybody there hearing the song for the first time?
@@nolagospeltracts8264 ....More than likely ....
@@Duality306 My father dies recently and the family member in charge of the music played the most cornball tracks he could find.
@@nolagospeltracts8264 ...I am sorry to hear about your Father....I lost my Dad in 2009 and then my Sister was murdered in 2013.....We had family and friends pick songs they knew she liked so it was a very eclectic mix
If David gilmour hadn't of joined Floyd they would of been crap even with Syd...HE WAS THE CATALYST THAT MADE THEM SUPERB
That may very well be so. Yes.
Yes, but PATGOD is still a great album. Favorite track "Lucifer Sam"
Yup, like if John frusiante hadn’t have joined the chilli peppers , would they have been thee success they are today, probably not…..David gilmour should get a knighthood .he’s as good a songwriter as Paul McCartney.
@@nomadz3358 Im afraid not - he made a few good songs on his first soloalbum(wich is one of my favouritealbums alltime) and some songwriting contributions to The Wall.
And of course on the earlier Floydalbums.
But the songs and the overall input came from Waters. That is very , very evident if you listen to Floyd before and after Waters and every soloeffort by Gilmour after his first solorecord. Gilmour is ofcs. a brilliant singer and musician - but not much of a songwriter.
Stuff like that really isn't necessary. How about "I sure like David Gilmour in Pink Floyd". Like any band its almost impossible to know what 'may have been'. If Bob Klose had rejoined them who knows what would have happened, Gilmour has openly admitted he thinks Klose is as good a guitarist as him. They could also have found an emotive songwriter who was inspired by the music to write great lyrics, no way of knowing. With a different drummer they would have been different, with a different keyboardist. Its nice to talk about the various personalities and music but trying to elevate one over another is a zero sum game. NONE of these guys really excelled outside of Pink Floyd.
For that matter, what would they have been without EMI which kept them signed even when not selling albums. And where would they be without fans, who would have pissed off Roger enough to compose the Wall. Where would they have been without the seventies that gave them all that inspiration? And on and on.
Works for me at 64 years of age.
The man's a gent
Unlike other bands, PF didn't coast on their laurels after DSOTM - they went on to record some sensational records.
Are you going to also post the unedited interview with Roger for the same documentary John? I think Roger’s insight particularly for the concept will be very rich since it was his conceptual ideas the themes about absence and Syd. Thank you for the wonderful videos that always make my day 🙂
Hi Mostafa. Thanks for your very kind words! The most relevent part of Roger's WYWH interview is already on this channel here ua-cam.com/video/Qm5VfjhuJTk/v-deo.html
@@JOHNEDGINTONDOCUMENTARIES Roger really doesn't do himself favours here. David goes on about the 'greatness' of the lyrics, and Roger ends the interview with "I don't give a shit about the music".
@@mikearchibald744 I know. It’s a pretty stark statement isn’t it.
@@mikearchibald744 No kidding. After all the rancor David very much pays Roger homage by complimenting his lyrics and, in turn, Roger seemingly dismisses the value of the music. It came across as a bit harsh to me. We all care, or should, about many things in life and so Roger could have acknowledged what they created at that time.
@@Neal_Schier Yeah, but maybe he had a bad day. Keep in mind that he's not as friendly as dave, and if he ever spends ANY time surfing then he sees himself come out at the end of THAT stick a lot. Plus he may not have even SEEN Daves interview.
I call that the frank zappa syndrome. It affected him and captain beefheart. You can add Robbie Robertson in there. Its that syndrome where you get so much adulation that you forget what other people bring.
Captain beefheart even says "I play the drums, I play the guitar". Even though he didn't play drums OR guitar. And apparnatly Zappa emphasized that to him, that 'he' was the genius, the other guys were just studio musicians. And to be fair, people seriously under value the contribution of studio musicians.
That bass beat on 'take a walk on the wild side' is pretty much what makes that song. That came from a session musician double tracking his bass because they get paid double for double tracks, but $300 bucks later, he's done, no royalties, and Lou Reed retires off the royalties.
Thats the music business. And to be fair, just strum a C chord and sing 'I wish you were here". Say what you want about the music, but that song is magic just strumming. Play it on a beatbox, same thing.
Way too much detail I know, but also Roger said in a fairly recent interview that while HE is the guy said to have a big ego, he claims that Dave and Rick were really rubbing the "your a shitty musician" thing into HIS face. Having seen quite a few interviews with english rockers that wouldn't suprise me at all. We only see the interviews from the Echoes video where they are all chummy. Then they become chum.
And once you start thinking ALL music is beautiful, it becomes harder to say 'no, this music is special'.
But I think we all agree, he comes off as a douchebag when he says that. Which makes it DOUBLY hard because when your goddam songs are about peace, love and respect and your a douchebag to the people you grew up with and helped make your money, it demeans the whole 'movement'. Like finding out John Lennon used to beat his first wife and treat his kid like garbage. "Imagine" suddenly takes a dark turn.
Thats why I really like Kate Bush.
Roger may have wrote it, but David made it work!
Written
I think the music actually came first.
Wish You Were Here is a coming to age album for definite
Is there an interview where David's great voice is discussed, and also Roger's great contrasting voice?
I dont' think so. Interesting topic though, I remember one album, can't remember which but in the studio I actually couldnt tell them apart. But that was when Roger was young:) I don't know if that was hubris or greed that made him want to cut dave out of singing, but its a real shame when he does it. Not sure there is much of htem singing together.
To think that Syd was a way to connect with all of us had much more sense to me. That the album started inspiring you to shine with whatever background you have or else be condemned to be in the machine or the matrix, a place where you are just another number, a number that can be able at times to be the "winner" in the matrix and take advantage of your fellows, then finally inviting you to be there (here) outside the box and do your part and share and love. In that sense, the album, for me, could be seen as a whole, a vision or invitation to be more human as another creation of our mother earth.
It's kind of dissapointing that in the end it was only about Syd. Bloody overthinking.
Songwriters are like novel writers, THEY don't get to definitively say what the song is about. Thats partly why Peter Gabriel says his old lyrics in Genesis are kind of wonky so that people can't pin down one message.
If Shakespeare had written a book explaining what MacBeth 'was about', it would only be one more interpretation. Its people like you doing overthinking that ultimately create the narrative.....hundreds of years down the road, if we're around. But you'll notice even on Shine on he doesn't sang "remember when Syd was young, he shone like the sun". He sings, rememeber when YOU were young and YOU shone like the sun. So that feeds into your interpretation even though Roger has said its about Syd. He's also said Wish you were here was also about the absense of the whole band and absense in general. I didn't see his Wall tour, but apparantly it was all redesigned because he DIDN"T want the album to be about the wall a narcissistic rocker builds around himself, he wanted it to be more universal about ALL the walls we build around us.
I said something similar about 'welcome to the machine'. Its a little glaring coming from a recent millionaire for his songs to be griping that he's joining a machine that has given him untold millions and a pretty darn comfortable life. Its either that song or Cigar where he sings 'which ones Pink', so that narrows it, but again, NOW even he is trying to broaden his past catalogue to ensure that these aren't just songs about HIM, but are more universal.
Good songwriters of course use multiple levels in their songwriting, thats what makes them interesting. And the fact that people like you can take it off in a new direction is what makes them interesting as well, nobody is on the latest Justin Bieber or whoever track and talking about the multiple levels of it. So keep overthinking dude. And if you want a challenge, head on over to "the lamb lies down on Broadway", because I have NO idea what the hell is going on in that album.
A great interview, though sad that he doesn't remember how some songs were made. If only it was documented back then like that "Get Back" show.
As a former musician, I can attest to the impulsive creations of sounds that come with 'diddling' around with an instrument and finding a groove that works, so remembering how that came about could be something elusive.
@@sanandaallsgood673 True, sometimes it just comes out of nowhere.
Much as it is of interest to hear someone who has recorded some great music talk about it, as best he can recall, it does not really matter exactly how it was made. You can find out how a car was manufactured but a piece of good music is not made on an assembly line.
I was hoping for a little insight into the production of the tracks….Who thought of the idea to intro the ‘radio tuning’ and radio acoustic? Why the elevator leaving the party before ‘Welcome to the machine’? The production is as big a piece of creativity as the actual song writing.
this is why I usually hate interviews. They have the blandest worst questions ever.
I have a brother who speaks in hieroglyphics, sounds like it sort of means something, he thinks he is being relevant, but totally in-understandable to me. A word salad which creates imagery rather than language. Thanks for your participation in our lives David.
I really love the band. Oh, by the way, which ones pink!
Pink Anderson en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pink_Anderson
10:32 ✝️☮️😇 amen 🌎
10:59 oh look, a castle oh look, a castle...
the history that dave roger rick & nick have togather rising to musical legonds, its too bad they cant get along very well as individuals.
Well, Rick is dead, so that's a bit of a hurdle.
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La mejor critica hacia Waters que leido, pues es la verdad pura y dura, no me ha gustado nunca Waters, y cuando decidio marcharse me alegré muchisimo, pero queria destrozar antes las carreras de David, Richard, y Mon, ya habia sacado de la banda a Richard, menos mal que David lo trajo y él aceptó volver, Walters no es buena persona, sus acciones lo dicen, y tampoco es compañero denadie
Boy, he sure is right about attention spans
Such a great achievement. With so many distractions, fame, money, etc.
4:44 is so true . Without that whats the point ?
👍🥧👍😃👍Give me a fine mug of Coffee and a outtake John Eginton video and you get a good chance of an incredible evening.
You'll be awake all night though.. 😜
@@jeffsimon9594 Then i can watch his whole video back catalog.
You're on!
@@JOHNEDGINTONDOCUMENTARIES When it comes to music quality time i'm always on.
Oh it's 10: 23 ✝️☮️😇🙏 amen 🌎🕊️🙌🧭🎷💎🌄♈🤲🪶🎼👣🎸🥁🔔🐝💪🐚🌊👖🎁🎹💡😎🎈🚗🙌🎶💋🔐
Both voices -- the interviewer's and the interviewee's -- are remarkably similar....
We’re two typical middle class Brits of roughly the same age
I really hate seeing in the news that Roger and David are still at each other no matter who did or said what to start the battle. That's not really important.. It's time to work together and make some music again for the fans.
In Gilmour's own words "it ain't gonna happen".
None of it is ever 'for the fans", it's all for themselves...
Like Gilmour said, its like going to be with your ex wife. He has a wife. Usually original music is gone by this point anyway. I don't think it that much a battle. Daves wife insulted him, probably not the first time.
JOHN HOW MUCH DID YOU TALK TO THE MEN?? WOW
812 10: 28 amen
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He's a class act, a generous man, not to mention a brilliant guitarist. But when it comes to interviews Roger is so much more interesting.
The inevitable question of what came first, the egg or the chicken is unanswered in this interview. Did the phrase, "Shine on you crazy diamond" come before or after Syd's visit to EMI? THAT IS THE QUESTION, Bard. I suspect AFTER. The Floyd are notorious for not acknowledging key decision making within the band.
The story is he showed up when they were RECORDING it, I'm pretty sure.
@@mikearchibald744 trying to record anything. They really didn't have much material to work with and the album was looking pretty shabby according to Roy Harper. I think Syd's mysterious appearance scared them into coming together as a band and start making music. That's my take.
@@ignatzmuskrat3000 Its an interesting one, but I don't think an accurate one. But Pink Floyd is nothing without its mythologies and thats probably a better take than what would be the more mundane reality:)
"Wow, that was syd?"
"Yeah, wasn't that crazy?"
"Yeah, but he's gone now."
"Oh, ok, can you bring me a tuna melt from downstairs, back to work"
I think Rick does say that Roger was in tears, which was nice to hear becaues when Roger talks in interviews he kind of gives off the vibe of a sociopath....on a good day.
But back to reality, David has said that his tune triggered Roger. Roger now admits he can't remember one day to the next, although then will swear to some factoid or other. But it does kind of sound like when Dave does interviews he almost feels guilty about only being the musician. What Roger says seems obvious, VERY little of the album is actually about Syd. Although Dave does say that THEY felt about Syd and thats why it was the 'melancholy' which Roger just kind of blows off.
To Roger it seems words are the main mode of expression, which is typically of lyricist and perhaps 'the rhythm section'.
To musicians and musical ears, a lead guitar and piano can be equally expressive. Who DOESN"T go for run or at least dream of it when listening to Chariots of Fire? As MUSICIANS say, the words are incidental, or as Rick says, just a noise like another instrument.
Roger outright says he doesn't give a shit about the music, which is odd for a guy who scored an opera, but thats the point where ladies shake their heads and go "oh, those artistic boys". Roger in a way is worse, not QUITE an artist, but more a social critic, but then Bob Dylan would say thats a fine line.
What I find equally creepy to ALL of that is the fact that when Roger talks about 'absence' he NEVER refers to his own marriage falling apart. Whew. These guys really beat any soap opera.
@@ignatzmuskrat3000 I was just rewatching Ricks interview, he says he remembers it pretty clear and says they were editing that very track.
@@mikearchibald744 Ya Roger is a poet. Reality need not apply to the Muse he channels. I prefer China over Chariots, btw, tho I lost my virginity during Chariots.
he used to be a very beautiful man.
he still is
Used to be? He still is beautiful (:
I'm sure at some point in the past you were once not bad looking, too.
He was gorgeous as a young man, and has matured into a beautiful older man.
@Johannes C Your grandfather certainly did not speak for me. I'll be 60 next year and I'm still a Greek God. When I walk the streets the hospital emergency rooms become overrun with women who sprained their neck muscles turning their heads to ogle me and imagine sleeping with me. You can tell if I've been to your city or town. All the women would be wearing neck braces, fighting each other, and screaming "I SAW HIM FIRST, BITCH!!!!"🤣🤷
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The greatest musical tragedy was Roger leaving Pink Floyd, it was never the same for any of them again...
Dude, Syd went nuts. That was a tragedy. Pink Floyd and Roger Waters simply went on to make their own music separately. I'm not sure that constitutes a 'tragedy' at all.
Floyd when from strength to strength post walters , rodger who ?
@@plod9645 they never wrote a decent song again, it took all four to write the classics, you are talking out your rectum...
@@alwaysright3718Hahaha :-)
@@alwaysright3718 You are here though ?
In other words if it wasn't for Roger making songs and albums out Gilmours riffs, then Pink Floyd would be a jam band with some nice guitar solos that nobody would know about.
We know you’re pissed cuz of Gilmour’s comments and you come like a child to random videos to let out your anger. Can you not also flip the script and say words without music is simply poetry? Even songs where Roger had all of the writing credits doesn’t mean the other band members did not contribute to the outcome. Roger’s solo work and David’s solo work showcase they were better together. David is regularly placed within the top 10 guitarist of all time polls. His talent would’ve shown through if he was a part of Pink Floyd or not. He wouldn’t have been as successful but to say he wouldn’t have been heard about is nonsense
@Carson Miller Well said !!
@@carsonmiller2152 You are entitled to your opinion, didnt have to feel atacked personally, I was just talking about famous musicians, this is not about you or me and I couldnt care less what Gilmour or his wife said. I don't even care what Waters says. Now, I disagree with Gilmour been one of the best 10 guitar players in the world. I am a profesional guitar player by the way. I have studied in the US and Germany and I have a degree and a master in classical guitar. Gilmour is not one of the 10 best guitar players. Maybe compared to other mainstream rock bands, but even if you take out, classical, flamenco, tango, jazz guitar players and we just focus on progressive rock I would say that people like Robert Fripp or Steve Howe had more skills and imagination than Gilmour. Gilmour has a nice tone and knows his limitations (like all Pink Floyd members), but he had problems with 7/8 beat in money, he can't play fast at all and only knows simple scales. He couldnt even play Is there anybody out there, which is the easiest piece for classical guitar and they had to get a classical guitar player to do it in The Wall.Pink Floyd songs are very simply and that's why Gilmour's playing was enough and literally more than enough and it sounded great. And yes, if it wasnt for Waters you wouldnt know that Gilmour was born one day.
Gilmour is an emotionally advanced guitarist with an exquisite tone. Unique
This is how some bands work my dude. One brings in songs, the other transforms them and there's nothing wrong to be the guy who transforms. In Floyd's case, the arrangement and the sounds are almost as important as the bare songwriting.
Talk about disengagement, the first ten minutes of the album are a G Minor chord on the organ. "Ok, we've taken up ten minutes, I guess we should modulate now..." "Should we? You don't want to go another ten minutes in G Minor?"
Where have you got that information? It feels wrong to me
@@grisha0599 Not at all wrong. As Roger Waters became more and more dominant in the group, making music became more of a chore for the others. By the time of The Wall, Roger was stage-managing every detail of the live show. Richard Wright was not at all interested & didn't enjoy the music. Waters ended up firing him from the group, hiring him as a session player, & paying him scale wages. Consult your Pink Floyd biographies. The Wish You Were Here sessions were not fun filled enjoyment. Why do you think the first ten minutes of the album are a G Minor chord?
"That'll do."
@@ericmalone3213 i think you misunderstood me) i was talking only about the music of shine on. I strongly belive that it is anything but G minor chord all the way.
@@grisha0599 Yeah, it's a G Minor chord for ten minutes. Take a listen.
@@ericmalone3213 i simply know for a fact that its not. I am i musician and i can play the whole song start to finish on piano or guitar. It's a lot of chords) i didn't want to argue with you, i was interested - how do you know it? Maybe you would recomend me something to check out for info. Or you just feel G minor by ear?
Senza Syd Barrett forse i Pink come li conosciamo non ci sarebbero mai stati. Mi viene in mente la frase che dice: dietro ogni vittoria c’è un crimine. Syd è morto i Pink hanno vinto. Syd ha rigettato l’essere usato dalla industria discografica i Pink no. Gilmour è un Artista vero ma come uomo mi ha sempre dato l’impressione che non aspettasse altro che Syd uscisse di scena per prenderne il posto.
non penso proprio, erano amici d'infanzia, probabilmente il resto della band ha fatto la scelta migliore sostituendolo con Gilmour. Lui stesso dice che se fosse ancora vivo e mentalmente sano, avrebbe scritto pezzi fantastici.
@@sandrobellacicco2826 grazie. Non sapevo. Resto però dell’idea che il disagio di Syd sia anche stato accentuato da una band che giustamente proseguiva il suo percorso artistico.
how in the hell is ANYONE supposed to make a follow album to dark side.wish you were here is a very good album on its own merrit.its just not a record breaking landslide once in a lifetime type of album.
Said no one......to anybody.....that knows anything about PF.
Exactly.
Firstly, I'd like to say that I was quite surprised when I found out that David Gilmour declares himself as an atheist. His music had always "spoken" to me. The lyrical depth between GIlmour, Waters, and other various writers was sensational, but Gilmour, when he was the singer, sang with such a dark emotion, but an emotion that was absolutely relatable. I know this sounds contradictory to someone who believes in one true God, but real emotion in such a braod range of ideas from losing a friend, to life in general (think Division Bell album) comes from someone with a spiritual understanding. He is a great artist, a greater guitarist, and an absolute lyrical genius, but it is sad to know he is an unbeliever.
NOW in terms of this interview, I would have to disagree. I think that 'The Wall' (1979) is the best complete album that Pink Floyd released. I think 'Division Bell' (1994) & 'Dark Side of the Moon' (1973) are a little better than 'Wish You Were Here' (1975). Wish You Were Here was spectacular, but for my liking, I listed my order of great albums. I own 'Momentary Lapse of Reason' & 'Meddle' as well, but the top 4 are what I noted.
The Wall is very overproduced by Bob Ezrin. Lots of the material is substandard, with Rog Waters strumming his ubiquitous G major chord on the acoustic. "We Don't Need No Education" with the wince-producing Alice Cooper lyrics (Bob Ezrin produced Alice Cooper) & the disco beat, is pretty excruciating. This business of rating a group's "best" album is highly subjective.
" He is a great artist, a greater guitarist, and an absolute lyrical genius, but it is sad to know he is an unbeliever."
If you're going to impose your dogmatic religious indoctrination on the world around you, you will always be sad to know.
Ironic that you assume atheists don’t understand spiritualism. Have you considered they have a deep understanding of it but have arrived at a different conclusion than yours?
@@catherinearmstrong388 A most reasonable comment, Catherine, but Jesus Freaks aren't rational.
I find it sad that anyone believe in magical beings.....as an adult.
God plays through the likes of David Gilmore regardless of what he believes. That’s the cool thing about music.. and about God.
Why write every single thing in capital letters? It comes across as shouting and insecurity, or something emotionally, being askew.
Why bother to comment on something so minor ? It comes across as … insecurity … being emotionally askew ..
@@JOHNEDGINTONDOCUMENTARIES I don’t think it’s minor. It seems major. Every word you write (including your name) is capitalized. You’re effectively screaming on top of your lungs: “Here I am! I exist! Pay attention! This is special!” I think that’s rather major. 🤓
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@@Lachenmann7 are you adrian or andrew berenson
You do realize capital letters aren't actually shouting right? Did it hurt your ears? Headings and titles are often in capital letters DONT YOU KNOW.
He comes across like a bit of a snob, like he's royalty or something. I guess his parents were wealthy
I don't get that feeling at all! He comes across incredibly open and willing to listen and share. There were a few parts where the interviewer cuts in and David stops talking and intently listens. I'm so used to musicians talking louder and talking over interviewers....it was nice to see that he was actually interested in listening. Plus I've read the books. I'm pretty sure his parents were average middle class, and I know when Gilmour left home he went through some pretty poor periods struggling as a musician. In Pompeii he talks about how he was broke before Floyd. He's just intelligent that's all.
@@johnvalencia9927 Don't get me wrong I have loved his guitaring and singing for a long long time, but he talks as if he's royalty or something. My nan always talked sort of common, and one of her brothers was a snob and talked 'all posh' as she used to describe it lol
His parents were not wealthy. Americans do not understand the English.
Definitely not rich his family was very much working class
Agree. David is a bitchy snob and Roger is a genius narcissist. Good music doesn’t come from balanced, grounded people.
Rodger Waters lyrics are not that great. If they were so great he would have a hit song on his solo albums. The lyrics to have a cigar are absolute crap. He is obviously just looking for a word that rhymes on the next line throughout most of the song. Show the lyrics to someone who has never heard the music and ask them what they think about the lyrics.
lol... you should have written to pink floyd at the time and offered some improvements
You illiterates will insist on spelling Roger with a D in the middle of it...
Number one, song lyrics are different than poems, they need to match the music. Number two, rhyme is pretty much standard in songwriting, sometimes it works, sometimes its prosaic. Number three, lyrics are expressive for different purposes for different people. I don't care for have a cigar, frankly I don't listen to anything on that album but those two Syd tracks, but in particular musicians love them. Musicians and celebrities in particular love the Wall for that notion of personal alienation. Neil Peart said he wrote to Roger just to thank him for making the album, it likely inspired him writing Limelight.
Songs are not written to be 'hits', thats a whole other thing entirely. To my mind Amused to Death is the most brilliant concept album out there, and the most brilliant that Roger ever produced, but there are no 'hits' on there. In fact Floyd always avoided anythign that even SOUNDED like hits. Bob ezrin had to make another brick into a hit, while Money had to be chopped down considerably to get airplay to be made into a hit and even THAT we've now seen is not what Roger intended in the first place.
His lyrics are simple, thats part of their charm and why they are so memorable, and yet also Syd like in that the allusions to objects are often very strange.
Shine on have beautful lyrics just written down. What are you crazy? You think all these artists and people around the world know the song because its crappy? TONS of poeple know that song despite it being way too long to get much radio play.
@Mike Archibald he celebrates himself as an amazing Lyricist. Mick Jagger is a great lyricist. Pete Townsend is a great lyricist. A great lyricist will write with intended dual meanings. I'm not saying that water's didn't have some great lyrics. But in the big picture he's pretty lame. Not to mention he struggles as a musician. How can you spend so much time with David Gilmour and not learn to play your damn instrument properly? Roger Waters is the epitome of an spoiled brat English arrogant cunt.
@@aleonyohan6745
How I wish, how I wish you were here
We're just two lost souls
Swimming in a fish bowl
Year after year
Running over the same old ground
What have we found?
The same old fears
Wish you were here
Good thing art is subjective and your opinion is no more correct than mine.
I,v never heard have a cigar on his concert, and I've never seen him play that beautiful solo.
I think because David or Roger didn't sing it. It was too high for their voices. That's why, I guess, they didn't ever play it live. Sadly
@@1979guitarmanThey played it on their '77 tour. Or are we talking about solo tours?
@@davebaker7503David solo tours I guess. David didn't want to sing it I think and it was too high out of Roger's vocal range although they did sing it together during the '77 In The Flesh Tour.