Testing the Hax Mod
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- Опубліковано 1 жов 2024
- Disclaimer: I’m just a youtuber that plays smash, so my opinion probably isn’t 100% correct.
P.S. I left out Cardinal angle on purpose, since explaining it is pretty difficult and I couldn’t really notice the difference (info on that in the description)
This mod could be found in all tournament Melee set ups in the future, so the main goal was to just make you guys aware of all this stuff if it ends up happening. My explanations are very watered down in order to keep the video short, but if you want to know absolutely everything in this mod, check out this link for extremely detailed notes/explanations.
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With that out of the way, thanks for watching. I tried to make this video as informative but enjoyable as possible. I understand though this is different than my typical stuff, so I probably won’t be doing one of these again. I have a lot of ideas I want to do, and hopefully I can get one out before August.
Also thanks for a mil views on Melee is Broken, that’s insane.
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Knowing that I don't have a gamecube or a gc controller, I play with my keyboard...
i can actually waveshine with my keyboard, it's way more comfortable than you would expect
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“It buffs spacies a lot”...it's Hax. Anything to get closer to 20XX.
wake up sheeple
Weren't the angles possible in vanilla Melee anyway? I know they are way easier with the mod, but in vanilla you could really tell wether your angle is right and is that tight angle or the straight one if you practice enough, it isn't as RNG as it seems to be. It just takes practice. (Or I am a master at doing my angles and my controller is perfect, which I really doubt)
he didn't say they were not possible he said that they were insanely difficult
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I think the perfect angles are dumb. They're just another angle. the thing the mod does with the deadzones are over the top imo. I hope the perfect angle mod is removed if it ends up being the norm. I think the shield drop and loading screen mods are perfect, though I prefer Magus's dashback mod over Hax's.
Asbjørn Birkelund whats magus's dashback mod?
Asbjørn Birkelund 5. 66 took out wavedash and Firefox angles
yes, but it makes it much less consistent.
Everything Hax is doing is to make Fox more consistent. Not surprised or particularly pumped. :^)
They're not inconsistent, you just suck.
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considering this mod mostly just fixes problems with the gc controller I'd say its a good idea
A lot of getting the wrong idea about the controller angles. The point isn't necessarily being able to reach perfect angles but more about eliminating unintentional straight angles. Because you run the risk of getting too close to the "perfect" angle and stepping into the straight angle zone, you can't reliably use any angles close to the straight angles. Without the mod, people don't just lose the perfect angle but all of the near-perfect angles, too. When you want a near-perfect angle (but not a perfect angle), this mod makes it safe to try without risking killing yourself by touching the wide straight angle zone.
imo I think everything in this mod should stay and should be used as tournament standard except for Firefox / Firebird angles. Just gives more incentive for people to play an already overrepresented character. I like that it removes some aspects of the game that depend more on the players controller than the skill of the players themselves. People shell out hundreds of dollars for controllers to give them an edge in competition, which I see as not only unfair to the people who can't afford to do so, but also just a general waste of money. This makes additional spending unnecessary and pushes the metagame forward (if just a little). I think making this tournament standard (without the Firefox angles) would be a very good thing for the Melee community.
The new edition of the mod has removed the perfect wave dash and Firefox angles per the request of the community, so it's no longer an issue. All that remains in the mod is dashback and shield drops, both of which fix controller disparities meaning that you can't buy a better controller for more money, making the game more fair for everyone.
Where can i see the new edition?
Thiro DSmash The faster melee discord has a version of dolphin with the new mod, though I'm not sure if it's out for memory cards yet.
To be perfectly honest, I would have liked to see the perfect wavedash remain in the mod. Perhaps instead of removing it completely the angles on the control stick could be changed again to be smaller than what they were in the displayed version of the mod, but still larger than they are in Vanilla Melee. But at the end of the day I'm only one voice out of a massive community, so my say won't change very much.
u cant get rid of(easier) firefox angles and keep wavedash angles
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If they remove perfect angles I don't see a reason not to implement it, I think that Hax is trying too hard to legalize B0XX that he will overstep his boundaries and mods like these will never be legalized
Hax also removed perfect wavedash though, so now I'm against him. He could have just foregone the angles, but nope.
I dont think you understand how the mod works. The mod makes the maximum angle easy to get by eliminating some dead zones. Max wavedash angle uses the exact same angle as the perfect firefox angle. If you have the perfect angle mod implemented u get both max wavedash, DI, and firefox angles, u cant just have wavedash, in short if u get one, u get them all
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You can't remove perfect angles yet still make perfect wd easy.
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"the community should take it's time with a decision" -- the community never seems to make a decision and implement it on anything.
That said, I agree, use it. Though take out Firefox angles, they're not even that hard to do in the first place.
PLEASE NO. We don't need any buffs to spacies. Dash back and wavedashes are fine, but ffs please no new angles.
There are no new angles, just makes them more consistent to hit.
Doesn't adding consistency technically buff them for the players who haven't practiced the angles as much?
PlaceholderName spacies are the only interesting characters anyway
Angles have already been removed from the mod. I hate that 90% of the comments are completely useless because no one actually looks anything up.
ls it not Heeew's fault for not having a version with the angles removed then?
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Sgt. Carson Ya it is. I was surprised that a melee youtuber would use a song from maplestory. The song is actually the last link in the description
shit i thought it was bad apple
For the people that think that perfect wavedash mods and perfect angle mods shouldn't be in it, I'd like to state that the point of this mod is to make those things more accessible. At this point in time, tournaments allow notched controllers that help to basically the same degree, so why can't we allow the mod? While I do understand why opposers may say it will "buff" spacie players or make certain characters better, everyone already can get notches if they spend extra money on a controller and wait for notchers like Typo or Kadano to do it for them. Overall, I think the mod should stay the same, and if not, notches should be banned, since they effectively do the same thing.
NOTE: After typing this post I've realised that even with notches, perfect wavedashes are still extremely difficult. The removal of that from the mod makes the most sense.
Nice MapleStory music at the end. Brings back so many memories.
I believe we should just keep melee as it is. I doubt Nintendo would be affiliated with people using mods on their game.
No, the mod will be applied to people's controllers rather than the game itself.
They wont care. Its no different than using frozen pokemon stadium. It doesnt change enough. And joseph, its a memory card mod that edits controller values.
Joeseph Linel wrong
well, no
tournaments are indipendent from nintendo
just think at project m tournaments
Elia, forse Nintendo does sponsor some tournaments
What is the background music?? I know its Kirby.
Its from Kirbys adventure actually, the forest area to be precise. Amazing mirror just remixed it.
The 'RNG' of you turning around and stand-still grabbing instead of dash-grabbing is just you inputting the dash early.
The dashback issue arises because the action "turnaround-into-dash" actually has two different animations. The animation that you get depends on whether you can move the stick from neutral to dash position within a frame. If you happen to input the move right before the frame changes, you're fucked.
IIRC, UCF which I guess is the newer version of this just gets rid of the slow one altogether.
You probably have gotten this comment already but I had to point it out.
Firefox angles aren't new, they are just easier to do without notches (fucking your controller up).
I'm with you, help with shield dropping is nice but making perfect wave dashing and angles easier seems a bit much. Plus I can see all the people that complain about their controller (even though they're just bad and controller not making a difference) pushing for this even though it'll do bumfuck all in stopping them going 0-2.
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Two separate points my friend, people pushing for it for the wrong reasons isn't a point for it not to be included. It's more that I can see this as another way bad players are going to blame their shortcomings on external factors.
nice video except for when you said "shield dropping is usually a difficult tech." it isn't difficult, it is just controller dependent, otherwise you can just get notches, and boom, shield dropping is extremely easy.
Tournament standard? This would make Fox the ultimate top tier, along with Falco, if it also applies to him.
2:50 New bad idea: *Completely* remove hitstun from Melee and dub the resulting mod Project B.
It turns out due to community feedback Hax nerfed the B0XX so it can't do perfect angles anymore and I'm pretty sure that this means there won't be perfect angles in the final memcard mod either. See here: www.reddit.com/r/SSBM/comments/6lbhts/hax_update_about_a_memcard_fix_and_b0xx_nerfs/
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There is nothing in this mod designed to reduce difficulty or skill required. The perfect angle mod that benifits both wavedash and firefox were fixed because of their random nature. For perfect angles there is normal a single tiny coordinate that one must move to with precision or risk going into the cardinal zones. That in itself isn't the problem; the problem is that the place of this single coordinate keeps shifting all the time as the controller is used, practically leaving things like perfect angles to RNG. This leaves you hoping that your controller hasn't up and changed it's calibration through regular stick use or gate wear as you use it. The point of the perfect angles are to completely take RNG/controller problems out of the equation altogether, as is the rest of the mod. Shield Drops weren't made "easier" either, they were made more reliable. Doing the right input will give you Shield Drop every time now, as opposed to not right then because the controller doesn't feel like it.
At the very minimum, the loading time fix should be standard.
One issue this mod brings up that I don’t think we’ve addressed much is the punish game.
I’m for shield drops and reverse grab fixes being implemented. Being punished for missing a grab should be because you missed the grab, not because you didn’t do it on a frame that happened to not detect the turnaround. I think that was what caused the issue, right? Something to do with how the turnaround for the grab-back only being possible on every other frame or something?
I actually like the wave dash fix because it will encourage new players to pick up the game more.
I think The Firefox angle thing is stupid since it only helps the spacies and hurts the punish game against them too much. The spacies are highly technical characters and whiffing those angles should just be part of the risks you take when playing as them, but I could see going for those angles being an easy thing to read. Like if it’s consistent maybe players will be inclined to go for it too much.
The only way to know for sure if this mod would be okay is if we just tried it in tournaments for a while.
It's OK that it isn't like what's normally on this channel. I found this video really informative which is also pretty cool
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This would probably work well as the tournament standard after a couple fixes.
I like the mod overall (although that fire fox buff needs to go), however, I believe competitive Melee should ALWAYS be played vanilla. Playing with a mod on a tournament just feels... wrong, even if it's for something this small.
Forgot to add, doesn't this make Melee less accessible? Since it pretty much means people will now need more steps than simply setting up a GameCube/Wii and just put the Melee disc in.
Do you think it should be the tournament standard?
Bushboy I really wouldn't know 100% unless we tried, but using it doesn't seem to be a problem (with some fixes) so I'm for it. Perfect wavedash Luigi is sick.
I don't understand the negativity surrounding spacey angles. That's not something new, it's just something that we rarely see because it's so difficult to do consistently. It's no different than the wavedash or shield drop changes, the only thing this mod does is make those options consistent enough to be relied upon in a serious match.
It's very interesting to see a tool like this come into the scene. The mod makes everything much more consistent by giving you more access to options that usually depended on your controller. If Nintendo had made the GCC more consistent in build quality and structure, we may have been playing a very different melee. This mod doesn't change any content, so really the mod is just letting you see more of the game. Is it balanced? I dunno, but it does recall that memory of melee being a party game rather than the competitive game it is today. It'll be even more interesting seeing this kind of stuff in upcoming tourney.
This mod (other than perfect angles wtf) would open the competitive scene to SOOO many players, could even make it it's own bracket!!
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I feel like people are acting like this changes melee somehow when really all it does is make it so that all controllers are identical to the best possible controller. All of the stuff that you can do in Hax's mod is stuff that you can do in normal melee as long as you randomly get a controller with the right attributes, right?
I'm fine with it fixing dash backs, shield drops, and wave dashes. But the spacie up-b angles are a bit too much
I definitely think this should be the tournament standard. The dash back stuff and quick loading is really nice. But I do agree with alot of people that are saying that the fire fox angles should be removed. It seems a little op. Still a great idea and I hope it becomes normalized for tourneys.
I like this mod, but I think it can't really be the standards at tournaments. I don't think we can expect every Melee setup to have this, since it's much more unreasonable to have than, say, unlocking Smashville in Sm4sh, and look what happened at EVO.
Also, Firefox angles shouldn't be a thing. Spacies are already the best in the game.
I wish your descriptions of the features weren't so damn misleading.
It seems like maybe you didn't see Hax's latest video? He backpedaled on the perfect wavedash angles and firefox angles. 1.0 dashing is still controversial though. Everyone agrees shield drop and dashback fixes are a good thing though.
The angles & wavedash are way too much. You can sand your original notches to shield drop values pretty easily as there's a bit of leniency. Dashbacks makes sense, you can't fix microscopic manufacturing differences in the analog sensor.
I'm not sure if this mod should be legalized but I gotta admit, I probably wouldn't want to get into melee as long as random controller differences are still a factor.
IDK, people were already doing those perfect firefox angles before. I'm for this mod because it'll make it sooo much easier for players to practice using tech instead of performing tech, which means more people will actually get better at the game, and there's a chance the scene might see some variety.
Wow...
Quick loading times...
Meanwhile in Smash 4, there's like, almost an entire minute of down time from when you finish a match to when you can start a new one. *It takes it sweet ass time to load the map selector for heaven's sake*.
get rid of the perfect firefox angles. Thats a bunch of BS. Its impressive when people get those angles in tight matches, now it will just be easy to pull off and makes the game easier
I like how FasterMelee looked at it. Mods should increase consistency, not make things easier. Also, mods should be used only when warranted to allow everyone to be on the same ground, more or less "quality of life" mods.
Supported Mods:
*-Polling code fix* - The major contributor to dashback inconsistency and overall delayed inputs is bad polling. This mod fixes the issue where the thread controller inputs are run on and the thread the game is run on desync, causing delay in inputs.
*-Shield drop mod (no added leniency, AKA shield dropping isn't easier)* - Hax's Mod v1.0 makes shield dropping somewhat easier when it fixes consistency. Shield dropping doesn't need to be easier, so a different mod is used that allows calibration without making it easier to shield drop.
*-Dashback mod (created by Magus, not Hax)* - The polling mod fixes this mostly already, but for the sake of consistency, it's implemented. Magus's mod plays more to how Melee handles dashback. It also fixes an issue with Hax's code that makes you go into 2 frames of "turn" instead of 1, making it different from normal dash, where you have 1 frame of "walk".
*-Neutral Spawn* - Allows players to start the game on even ground. Kinda a no-brainer if you ask me.
Mods Not Warranted/Deemed Illegal:
*-1.0 Cardinals* - I'd like to see a mod for this implemented eventually, but the one right now does seem flawed. You undergo an analog-to-digital conversion in the modified 1.0 range, which changes vanilla analog mechanics. It's already very hard to get a true 1.0 angle, because your y-axis must be EXACTLY 0, or it will be registered as 0.975. This is near impossible to do consistently. Also, there's no negative effect on competitive play if we don't implement this mod, which makes it unwarranted. The idea that "1.0 cardinals are better" is subjective, so we shouldn't make it legal just because we can. I agree that the B0XX's dash buttons should be set to 0.975. Even if you might consider that a disadvantage, the B0XX will have the advantage of (likely) optimal ergonomics as well as the option of using more fingers, so it already has it's own advantages.
*-Dashback Out of Crouch* - It's easy enough to do already, since you have a 2-frame window. It also doesn't deal with controller disparities like the others. The mod also creates a 3-frame buffer, which isn't necessary. With the polling mod, there's no need for this change.
*-Modified deadzones (perfect angles are easier to hit)* - Another analog-to-digital conversion as well as a skill ceiling-lowering mod. Also, even if it's hard, you can still do perfect wavedashes consistently.
*-Shield drop mod (Hax mod v1.0)* - Again, it shouldn't be easier to shield drop, just more consistent.
I tried to sum it up as best as I could, but you can read the whole article here: docs.google.com/document/d/1XibKHVTyotbUnlu3cSk2U0TgnKfe47CJJ_g-pyTRBE8/edit
Yeah, vMelee should be still standard despite it's flaws, but finally, I can consistently wavedash...finally.
really we should be using 20XX Tournament Edition and implementing some of the fixes in there for tournament. there's too much money on the line for melee to stay so flawed.
Yeah let the community use this mod as a tournament standard and let's watch Nintendo hate on the Smash community for altering with their game again (just like they did with PM) and do something against it so it get's banned.
Everyone saying "DON'T MOD MELEE FOR TOURNAMENTS" forgetting Project M
Not playing Melee myself, but I think this mod would be a bad idea.
Not only because the Fire fox, but also because of the "fixes".
I don't know how inconsistent dashing backwards are (or how RNG is involved), so that'd probably be the only good fix, the other stuff is just making the game easier, which is nice to newcomers, but really unfair to those who actually practiced multiple hours perfecting their tech skill.
Update: Angles removed from mod (along with perfect wavedash). So it's just calibrated shield drops, dash back consistency, and faster load times.
But the real question is when are they going to fix marth's sword disappearing when Whispy blinks?
As long as it fixes Battlefield's ledges, i'd be fine with this being used in tournaments. The one issue I have with it is that Fox is even more broken now.
I think the mod should be legal without the angles mod, cuz it buffs spacies so much, and the perfect wavedash could be removed too but its really wathever. Dash fix are nice and the shielddrop its nice too (although i prefer the shielddrop as it is :v)
P.S. I always love your music choices, i know the kirby one from gameboy advance and maplestory
I think Leffen made a really good point here, where the DashBack and shield drop mods are fine, because they actually address issues of controller inconsistency.
But the angle mod changes the input required to make that angle happen.
a player going from modded to unmodded and back with the Dashback and shielddrop mods enabled will be playing the same game, just with additional consistency. But if a player gets good at Hax mod perfect angles, then goes to unmodded, theyre actually performing the incorrect input for that angle on the unmodded version, and will miss literally every time. That mod isnt about controller consistency, its about making the B0xx acceptable, cause the B0xx has perfect angles consistent.
Wait a second. Tournements use something else, besides normal melee? Like just put it in a wii/gamecube??? Can someone explain this to me?
No
I am completely for the dashback and shield drop fixes. Those two things are highly controller dependent. Dashback in Melee is comparable to the tripping in brawl. It adds randomness to a game which we all want to be entirely skill-based, and doing so would only benefit the game. I don't really agree with the perfect angles though. Those are simply difficult to pull off, but not rng based at all. Also, as many others have said we don't need more buffs to the spacies.
Just my two cents, hopefully this will get implemented into major tourneys.
I enjoy that people are trying new things in melee, however as a spacie main let me tell you why this mod is complete bs: it removes the element of practice from the game. all of these techniques can be done with practice and timings. is it weird that I could back dash with every controller I had since starting 4 years ago? Or the fact that I can hit those Firefox angles? Or that fox perfect wave dash is second nature now? yes it's weird? then git gud. spacies are dumb. for the sake of my opponents don't make them dumber. with love, respect, and a tiny bit of salt, Thunder. thank you for your time
I agree with you on the Firefox angles, for the same reason.
Thanks for the video, I missed this going around!
About time tbh. Mods where it's not breaking the game even further but rather actually helping characters. Someone needs to ask MagicScrumpy for some help with Kirby.
If this becomes tournament standard, then Melee will become much less accessible. It's already a pain in the ass to set up 20XX and whatnot, but having a mod set to be tourney standard is going too far. I hardly raked in enough cash to get a GameCube and Melee, I don't plan on saving up yet again to buy a computer just so I can play a game that I already have.
So original Firefox didn’t send you at the angle the control stick was pointed at the frame before initiating?
That’s crappy.
The new mod should have been vanilla.
Everyone keeps commenting about how the perfect angles buffs spacies too much, but it also helps the recovery of sheik, pika, and mewtwo. It probably helps spacies the most but still something to keep in mind.
Im okay with UCF. Nothing else.
Also, Mushroom shrine bgm lmao
The perfect wavedash is going to buff Luigi so hard that he might be a bit more viable. His tech chases will be as strong as sheik
I'd be for the dashbacking, given that it is basically the tripping of melee, and the mods addition would only be removing random elements from the game, making it smoother and more skill based. I'm against everything else though, because not only does it make the game easier for no reason, Leffen showed that it literally changes how we play the game.
I did the crazy precise Fox-Fire angles since I was a kid. So I can do them easily now :D
Keeping if fresh. Pretty neat! With a few more patches maybe this will become standard.
No one seems to remember that the point of certain mods here is to not buff certain characters or change the game. Its to make the game cube controller more competitive with the B0XX. Dashback and shield drop should be kept for sure. But the perfect angles and perfect wavedash mods are to make Controller vs B0XX more similar in terms of if you have an advantage using one over the other.
I dunno how badly it'd affect a game like Smash 4, but I really like the Drop Shield tech, would love to see something like it in Smash 4 as a regular thing you can do.
Well if that's the new competitive Melee standard the next Melee tournaments won't be actually Melee. I don't see that working anywhere in a serious environment.
Also, buffing Fox is the last thing we need
There are a lot of things good about the mod and some are not good. That's just how it is, besides if Nintendo won't help us with controller issues, you might as well make it better for yourself so everyone won't have random jank fuck up the game.
So what you're telling me is everyone received a tiny buff, but the characters that received the most benefit from this are the first and, arguably, second best characters in the game...yeah I don't know about this...
This mod is all about fixing controller disparities, and not changing the game. There will always be people who get perfect angle notches and shield drop notches. This mod is making it so that all controllers can perform the same tech as consistently as all other controllers can. This way people don't have to spend money searching for controllers with good dashbacks and getting notches to make tech easier. This mod is a way to allow people to get into higher levels of Melee without having to drop potentially ridiculous amounts of money to makes sure their controller is as good as some of their competitors. I haven't seen nearly enough people talking about this positive aspect of the mod, and I would be willing to bet that it is something that many people in the Melee community have not thought about. If anyone has any thoughts on what I have said I am eager to hear them, as this could be an important turning point for the future of the game we all love, and all thoughts on the matter should be voiced and considered before the community comes to it's inevitably controversial decision on whether or not these mods should be used in tournament.
I've been playing melee all my life (literally) and I always liked luigi and I was never knew about the competetive scene... I'm happy with my character choice
I don't care for the idea of handheld p.wavedashes or firefox angles, but knowing your controller is capable of shield dropping before you buy it is Huge
I know next to nothing about melee, other than marth's grab and luigi's nair. whens this mod gonna fix the grab huh? whens it gonna make pichu viable huh? :^)
Just started watching your videos besides the Kirby one.. gotta say love your stuff and +1 for the MapleStory music!
"next vids will be back to normal" you mean 1 video per year? koo
First time I'm watching this video and I noticed the Maplestory music immediately.
My biggest problem with this is the accessibility. How do you get the mod? Is this going to be an issue with players having to either fork over cash for a memory card with modded data, or hoping their friend has one, or something?
I don't care if this isn't the normal style, I'm just happy to have a new Heeew vid!
As much as I detest Melee, the wavedash is cool. I kinda want it in Sm4sh, but the Brawl air dodge is an actual dodge. Maybe inputting special and shield at the same time?
Why is the community considering using this as the standard? It just makes the game easier for new players to develop, and once they get to vanilla Melee, they're screwed
im not one for keeping tradition as tradition for tradition's sake if there are better alternatives, but i do feel some parts of this mod are over the top. If this mod does become standard it should remain subtle in what it does. I wouldn't keep the angles and the wavedashing, but shield dropping and load times seem like they're a nice addition to the game. If it was just load times i think that 100% it should be standard and there's no good reason why it wouldn't be.
Yay. More angles for spacies. Because Fox and Falco are so bad and need a buff.
I'm fine with dashback, undecided on shield drops + Wavedashes, but I definitely think that the angles shouldn't be there.
I honestly liked the idea of the mod, because most top players and tournament goers now what to place out of game rules.
With modding it can help the game be better and not be nerfed by 10 more added rules to follow, still keeping the game fun.
only the real ones would know thats ample story song at the end
Dashback should be fixed because it is RNG for all intents and purposes. Faster loading screens and neutral starts are nice little bonuses that go along with it. Let's not change shield drop or angles yet though, there's no reason to rush these things, we can go one step at a time.
I think we should make keyboards the standard controller for melee. No Box, no shitty GC controllers. All good.
Am I lucky that my black Smash 4 controller that I use for Melee can shield drop consistently on both sides straight out of the box?
This video was alright, but then I heard MapleStory outro music? Fucking 10/10
That music at the end is from maplestory no doubt. But which level?
I'm curious if anyone out there has made a mod to fix Captain Falcon's gentleman
As someone who comes from Sm4sh I feel that finding a good /balanced/ melee mod would be optimal, as its an old game and doesn't get buffs/nerfs from nintendo.
Is it still possible to do a non-full wavedash? Because it's important to be able to do that.
10 years comes quick huh