Did you just forget that Moky is a top 10 player? If a bronze one player did this challenge it would take far, FAR longer for them to do this challenge.
As someone who's been in silver for a couple years I have 2 things to contribute: 1. The cycle of floaties and species is absolutely real. whenever I play someone I can quickly figure out if they're in the spacie rung above me or the one below me. 2. Ascending from complete beginner to silver 3 feels like walking up a slow and steep hike. Climbing from silver into Gold feels like climbing the sheer face of a cliff. Like i've been procrastinating playing melee cause I know I need to install unclepunch and spend a month or three grinding the game out if I want to solidly get into gold. (This was before free ranked day, Idk what it's like now)
You don’t need to do crazy labbing honestly just practicing your movement and execution for like at least 10 minutes a day will make a huge difference than just only hopping on slippi and playing people. It’ll make the game more fun too
The cycle is still there. Theres like distinct ranks for them now. Silver 2 will have fast fallers. Silver 3/Gold 1 will have both tiers of floaties. Gold 2 will have the spacies again. I remember when i climbed out of silver, i never ran into a fox. I ran into marth, sheik, peach, falco and samus in that climb. When I hit gold i started seeing falcon, DK and foxes again. Havent played in about a month but thats how it was for me.
@@AliMohamed-fu5lc I'm perpetually stuck in gold 1 because every time I break into gold 2 I get faced with a fucking wall of Falco3000s and get lasered down back into gold 1
I love how these videos are done. Its not just stream clips cut up. Theres an actual intro, thoughtful editing, commentary, and just pure entertainment. Anyways kinda interesting how each rank took roughly an hour. At least Bronze-gold. It honestly makes me want to play ranked. I have never tried it. I have some weird anxiety around it.
I like how instead of shitting on people in the lower ranks for being bad while playing them you encouraged them and called out what they did that was good. A lot of other creators do similar challenges on other games but don’t approach positivity
The sentiment of how low level players are actually good sometimes is really funny but also very true. I wouldn't consider myself pro or anything but in Ultimate, at the very least, my most played character is near as high as you can get. So I'm at least decent. The players I find in that very high GSP-rangr tend to actually not be very good, they just exploited the system. People I fight in lower ranks tend to give me a great challenge because they're actually trying. They might not be consistent in their plays, which is why they're "low level," but they're good at the game. And I know, GSP, not a good measurement of skill but still.
@@SillyChobo To a degree, I suppose. My main point here was to say that lower ranks tend to be decently challenging. Like how in this video they found a few players in the lower ranks that could keep up with them, despite the fact they're literally a pro. In other games, it depends. In fighting games, most good players tend to play casually for fun, so they end up staying in the lower ranks purely because they don't care as much. But in games like Yu-Gi-Oh, pretty much every rank feels the exact same due to a best of 1 format. Rank doesn't matter, it's nearly all based on the coin flip and the opening hands.
13:34 this is exactly the words I say to myself when I play against a luigi and I'm only in gold. Glad to know it's universal across all skill levels LOL
It’s always good to see real good players lose or get messed up even for a stock or two online. People are so good now and unranked can be an insane mixed bag and really frustration for us JUST OKAY players
What separates the most skilled players from the best players in the world is *adaptation* ... You have to understand how your opponent is exploiting you and use it to exploit them.
Very happy with the title change for this video and the subject is incredible. Well done, Mokeal. Unfortunately, entire season 22 of family guy shows up below this video in my feed, so I will be watching that as soon as I’m done with this comment.
Love seeing a top ranked player get clapped by some dude that hasn't even crawled out of silver. Have to wonder how many amazing players don't play locals just because of inconvenience.
Not going to lie. After getting to Gold 3 as a solo Pichu main, only to lose close sets for 2 straight hours and end up back in Silver 2, I took a long break from Melee. The fact that I didn't make it back to gold killed my morale for this game. I just do unranked now.
so luigi could be top 1 in the world right now? Like let's say you put them into a tournament with the other top players, it looks like the luigi has a chance to actually win a super major. That's crazy. Unless you weren't trying all that hard, but it looked like you were trying hard
Beating 1 player online is different than beating several of the world's elite. Can't remember the last time a Luigi has even been Top 16 at a major, and I think the last time one was in top 8 was in Super Smash Con 2017
I mean he had played about 6 hours of melee prior, it’s a b03, and you can’t just beat one top player to win a super major, much less be top 1. Can he get top 8? Sure, but winning a supermajor is a whole different ordeal, against people who aren’t several hours deep into a challenge and instead can like practice the Luigi mu
a lot of mid tiers can do alright versus certain top tiers (in this case fox) but completely fold versus other top tiers. good luck beating hbox or zain with luigi
I think there is no chance a luigi wins a super major within the next few years. There currently is no luigi good enough to do it, and if there were it would take plenty of tries to get the bracket luck necessary to make it possible
this video is amazing would love melee content like the naroditsky chess elo speedruns where someone picks a playstyle or character and analyze the matches as you climb to 2000 elo. It's such good content for not top level players to see how you would analyze a like 1500 elo match
playing against a decent fox "who the fuck is this sweat" - says the sweatiest man in the room i like that the last guy you fought in video had your name mokyMAGA
ranked is basically just the same 30 people sandbagging over and over again. nobody seems to care about actually holding top rank. its completely broken.
You either gotta pay for ranked. Or you play on the free ranked days. I wouldn't be able to tell you which day it is cause I don't play ranked but there's a counter in the slippy launcher that tells you exactly how many days/hours are left until ranked day.
I'm really glad he called out how lame smurfing is for low ranked players. I really hate smurfing in every game but I also understand the purpose and value of the content created.
we need to remember the fallen bronze gamers who were lost in the making of this video
moky7
moky7
@@stradiusmoky7
Moky is the only smasher making this style of content for melee and it's NEEDED. Good shit king.
Yeah aside from like the asumsaus and the documentary type videos these videos and the 100 win challenge are my favorite melee content lately
The reason he is the only top player making this content is because most people are not stupid and realize that smurfing is bad.
@@MilkHS This kind of content grows the game.
@@SnackMuay no it doesn't.
@@MilkHS you're right, we must preserve the competitive integrity of online melee at all costs.
tldr 9 1/2 hours to become a top player in melee. What an easy videgame
Did you just forget that Moky is a top 10 player? If a bronze one player did this challenge it would take far, FAR longer for them to do this challenge.
@noah-ux2cz did you watch the video? clearly the timer says it only took 9 1/2 hours
@@noah-ux2czHe was a bronze player didn't you watch the video
/S
@@noah-ux2czare people really this tone deaf to satire
@@AntechamberAEI just think a lot of melee players have autism, not even trying to be funny
As someone who's been in silver for a couple years I have 2 things to contribute:
1. The cycle of floaties and species is absolutely real. whenever I play someone I can quickly figure out if they're in the spacie rung above me or the one below me.
2. Ascending from complete beginner to silver 3 feels like walking up a slow and steep hike. Climbing from silver into Gold feels like climbing the sheer face of a cliff. Like i've been procrastinating playing melee cause I know I need to install unclepunch and spend a month or three grinding the game out if I want to solidly get into gold.
(This was before free ranked day, Idk what it's like now)
I hitted silver yesterday and my ass doesn't know L-cancel 😅 I need to practice on Unclepunch too
it can also take a week or 2. give labbing a try, it's quite fun
You don’t need to do crazy labbing honestly just practicing your movement and execution for like at least 10 minutes a day will make a huge difference than just only hopping on slippi and playing people. It’ll make the game more fun too
The cycle is still there. Theres like distinct ranks for them now.
Silver 2 will have fast fallers.
Silver 3/Gold 1 will have both tiers of floaties.
Gold 2 will have the spacies again.
I remember when i climbed out of silver, i never ran into a fox. I ran into marth, sheik, peach, falco and samus in that climb. When I hit gold i started seeing falcon, DK and foxes again. Havent played in about a month but thats how it was for me.
@@AliMohamed-fu5lc I'm perpetually stuck in gold 1 because every time I break into gold 2 I get faced with a fucking wall of Falco3000s and get lasered down back into gold 1
I love how these videos are done. Its not just stream clips cut up. Theres an actual intro, thoughtful editing, commentary, and just pure entertainment.
Anyways kinda interesting how each rank took roughly an hour. At least Bronze-gold. It honestly makes me want to play ranked. I have never tried it. I have some weird anxiety around it.
“Why am I getting owned?
Why am I getting owned?
Why am I getting owned?
Why am I getting owned?”
-Mr. Dokie
Its insane to see you run into the ppl i run into and affirm that theyre actually dope asf like ap and yea
111--3 after he was done tanking thats crazy
I like how instead of shitting on people in the lower ranks for being bad while playing them you encouraged them and called out what they did that was good. A lot of other creators do similar challenges on other games but don’t approach positivity
The sentiment of how low level players are actually good sometimes is really funny but also very true. I wouldn't consider myself pro or anything but in Ultimate, at the very least, my most played character is near as high as you can get. So I'm at least decent.
The players I find in that very high GSP-rangr tend to actually not be very good, they just exploited the system. People I fight in lower ranks tend to give me a great challenge because they're actually trying. They might not be consistent in their plays, which is why they're "low level," but they're good at the game.
And I know, GSP, not a good measurement of skill but still.
interesting. do you think your theory holds up in other games as well?
@@SillyChobo To a degree, I suppose. My main point here was to say that lower ranks tend to be decently challenging. Like how in this video they found a few players in the lower ranks that could keep up with them, despite the fact they're literally a pro.
In other games, it depends. In fighting games, most good players tend to play casually for fun, so they end up staying in the lower ranks purely because they don't care as much. But in games like Yu-Gi-Oh, pretty much every rank feels the exact same due to a best of 1 format. Rank doesn't matter, it's nearly all based on the coin flip and the opening hands.
moral of the story: Luigi is Moky's demon
I like that you show the dope combos you got hit by in the lower levels. Also, your perseverance is crazy.
bro if I start running into pro player smurfs in gold 3 imma kms fr 😭
This is one of your best videos to date IMO. Good stuff!
I've beaten GM's as a gold 3 and it STILL only gave me around 30 elo beating good players doesn't give you jack shit on ranked
Awesome video Moky!! Way to hang in and complete the challenge!!
the editor doesn’t get enough praise for putting 10 hours worth of content into a 20 minute video.
3:48 SM64 MENTIONED!!!
Dr. Mario 64
@GTM
The tempo switch at the end is goated. Great build up
glad you didnt give up man, I could feel your pain through the video, but great work!
so proud of you doing the type of content this is bruv gl with future projects
the compliation of highlights at the end were really dope, great video
This is some of the best melee content I’ve ever seen. Good job moky
I love moky we NEED more people making quality melee content COME ON and he's sick
13:34 this is exactly the words I say to myself when I play against a luigi and I'm only in gold. Glad to know it's universal across all skill levels LOL
Mokie I’ve been slowly watching more and more of ur shorts and now vids and I’m really enjoying this content. Ur funny as hell haha. All MayLay baby!!
Loving your content lately ❤️
What's the song that starts at 17:45?
^^ was wondering the same
Battle!! - Torna - Xenoblade Chronicles 2
@@obi1692 thanks
Just had to come back to say the thumbnail is simply incredible.
This is melee content we needed in the big 24.
This was cool to watch, almost makes me wanna get into melee honestly
Song played at the end?
Moky this got you the sub. Excellent vid.
It’s always good to see real good players lose or get messed up even for a stock or two online. People are so good now and unranked can be an insane mixed bag and really frustration for us JUST OKAY players
i like the joke at the end where he says he has a girlfriend XD
nice i got to see some of the people i play in ranked in a moky video!
There is a 68% chance that plup and joebro____ are mortal enemies! mokyEggman
You should offer some coaching and a rematch to the bronzies
Amazing video 🔥
13:15 my GOD man
should rename title "how long does it take for a top player to become a top player" lol
anyone knows what song plays during the platinum section?
love the video! great concept and i enjoy other peoples struggle.
blud is trying to disguise an unranked to gm
Bkud is trying to act hood with anime profile pic
Bird Talk with the demon combo holy shit
Proud of my Luigis this run let's keep the momentum going kings
:|
Dope video, doky stocks skyrocketing
4:28 The "gamer hunch forward" is real and OP 😂
You know it's a good speedrun when it has unmandated pee breaks
incredibly well put together video, very enjoyable to watch
Loving the day countdown from Majora’s Mask for going up in ranking and Mario Party 4 music
absolute banger vid
ggs that was me.
What separates the most skilled players from the best players in the world is *adaptation* ...
You have to understand how your opponent is exploiting you and use it to exploit them.
What song is at 7:00
I can't find it anywhere
This might demonstrate that the matchmaking should swing with a higher range when players are on long win streaks.
So Kendrick got Cole, Drake AND moky in a single summer? sheesh!
Very happy with the title change for this video and the subject is incredible. Well done, Mokeal. Unfortunately, entire season 22 of family guy shows up below this video in my feed, so I will be watching that as soon as I’m done with this comment.
Oh so you were the one that destroyed me
How do you feel about playing campbox in GOML
What’s that “jazzy” type song that starts around 18:00?
xenoblade 2 torna the golden country combat theme. it's featured in a lot of melee videos for some reason
Love seeing a top ranked player get clapped by some dude that hasn't even crawled out of silver. Have to wonder how many amazing players don't play locals just because of inconvenience.
Not going to lie. After getting to Gold 3 as a solo Pichu main, only to lose close sets for 2 straight hours and end up back in Silver 2, I took a long break from Melee. The fact that I didn't make it back to gold killed my morale for this game. I just do unranked now.
WAIT, I TOTALLY LIED ABOUT GREENUS MANUS BEING SILVER 3!!!
Sorry moky i didnt mean to deceive you it was simply an epic troll xD
so luigi could be top 1 in the world right now? Like let's say you put them into a tournament with the other top players, it looks like the luigi has a chance to actually win a super major. That's crazy. Unless you weren't trying all that hard, but it looked like you were trying hard
Beating 1 player online is different than beating several of the world's elite. Can't remember the last time a Luigi has even been Top 16 at a major, and I think the last time one was in top 8 was in Super Smash Con 2017
I mean he had played about 6 hours of melee prior, it’s a b03, and you can’t just beat one top player to win a super major, much less be top 1. Can he get top 8? Sure, but winning a supermajor is a whole different ordeal, against people who aren’t several hours deep into a challenge and instead can like practice the Luigi mu
a lot of mid tiers can do alright versus certain top tiers (in this case fox) but completely fold versus other top tiers. good luck beating hbox or zain with luigi
I think there is no chance a luigi wins a super major within the next few years. There currently is no luigi good enough to do it, and if there were it would take plenty of tries to get the bracket luck necessary to make it possible
Different players r bad vs different characters, moky is historically bad vs Luigi lol
crazy endurance
5:30 isnt one of Moky's good friends/practice partners a yoshi player LOL
just fyi, Dronu (seen at the beginning of master rank) is an Iowa puff main :)
fantastic video. I hope some other players make an attempt at this speedrun category.
Dang he dropped below me for this. I didn't think that was possible. Also apparently I'm one win from Bronze II. Maybe I shouldn't give up
Smash Melee Lose Your Mind Speedrun: 7 Hours
I loved this video 😮
this video is amazing
would love melee content like the naroditsky chess elo speedruns where someone picks a playstyle or character and analyze the matches as you climb to 2000 elo. It's such good content for not top level players to see how you would analyze a like 1500 elo match
Dope video. New subscriber. New fan.
That last segment was awesome
Where and how can i play melee online
GOAT CUTEJOSIE I LOVE THEIRSTREAMS
another banger moky video
Bronze to GM content spreading everywhere. Uthermal changing the world.
playing against a decent fox "who the fuck is this sweat" - says the sweatiest man in the room
i like that the last guy you fought in video had your name mokyMAGA
Awesome video, really well produced, looking forward to more like this :]
ranked is basically just the same 30 people sandbagging over and over again. nobody seems to care about actually holding top rank. its completely broken.
This was validating as someone who has no idea how to play Fox vs Luigi
Insane start
Where do I get that hat?
How do u get to play ranked? I got melee online and only am able to play unranked
You either gotta pay for ranked. Or you play on the free ranked days. I wouldn't be able to tell you which day it is cause I don't play ranked but there's a counter in the slippy launcher that tells you exactly how many days/hours are left until ranked day.
@ that’s so silly you have to pay for ranked. Thank you tho! I appreciate it
Smurfing??
Super entertaining video
LOVE THE MUSIC? DO U HAVE SOURCES?
Now we need to find out who this Legendary yoshi AP is
Wow smurfing : the challenge
I thought youd be learning from scratch too but this is just kind of an asshole move
Whats the song at 18:12?? It's a banger
I think its a zenoblade song
Xenoblade Chronicles 2 - Torna - The Golden County (Battle)
Moky is my goat
I'm really glad he called out how lame smurfing is for low ranked players. I really hate smurfing in every game but I also understand the purpose and value of the content created.
He has the skill but lacks the mental fortitude.
beautiful video
Nice you beat all 40 players
Okay, I'm officially a Moky fan. Great vid, positive mindset, very entertaining.
Quality content
That falcon gonna be top 10 in the world