Backward Locomotive Pulls Train By Itself Passing 4 Engine Train With DPU, Emptying The Yard On CSX!
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- Опубліковано 29 вер 2024
- Powerful Norfolk Southern Locomotive Pulls Train Long Hood Forward Past CSX Freight With 4 Locomotives! Listen to the locomotives working hard on both trains pulling up grade. These trains are in Cincinnati, Ohio just north of huge Queensgate Yard. The CSX train with mid train DPU pulled up to wait for the shorter NS train to pass. Right after the NS train passed the CSX train, the CSX train started working hard to get their train up to track speed. Notice the NS locomotive running long hood forward like they use to do back in the N&W days. The old Baltimore And Ohio Railroad CPL signals are still in use here. This location is known as Canal Ridge. Amtrak and Indian & Ohio Railway also use this track although they are difficult to catch especially since Amtrak only passes here 3 round trips a week.
Filmed January 31, 2022.
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That single engine was pulling 123 cars by itself... Incredible !!!
Two large trains and note a single centerbeam. That's a rarity
@@paulbergen9114 for sure !!!
gosh that was incredible.
Good chance most of the cars were empty
Love that artwork of the skeleton painted on the red boxcar on the NS
The "DP" means distributed power". this means that this locomotive has the DP equipment installed. This allows it to be the lead locomotive in the DP consist mid or rear train. This type of sticker is attached to locomotives which were not originally bought DP fitted but have had the equipment installed at a later date. it is only another version of radio controlled switchers. As a train can be controlled from a caboose set up for the job. It is possible if the correct cameras are fitted,in the lead unit of a train for the engineer (Aussie Enginedriver) to be in the lead unit of a mid or rear train DP consist and drive the train including sounding the horn for road crossings etc. In the Pilbara, Rio Tinto drives the trains from a building near the Perth Airport with no crew, three GE locomotives and 35,000 tonnes trailing at a max of 75kph(40 mph). Another Aussie Special is the Tronox Mineral Sands Train which runs from Broken Hill New South Wales to Kwinana to Kwinana South of Perth, with two or three crews who travel on the train in a specially modified Railcar, and between the crew car and the locomotives is a fuel car carrying about 68000 litres(18000 US Gals). This car is fitted with an automatic system which fills the locomotives whilst travelling. Fuel locations are remote and costly on the Nullabor Plain where this train runs. Also by having the crews on board and fuelling on the run, the actual train time is reduced by up to nine hours for the return trip. The crews get enough claimable hours in one week to reach over the fortnightly cycle maximum, They work about five and ahalf days in actual total time and have the rest of the fortnight off. If called whilst on the break, it costs the company in paid hours 8 to call them and twice the nunber of hours worked as paid hours. EG a six hour job can cost the company 20 hrs pay. The Tronox train is about 12000 tonnes and travels 1740 miles each way. Look for Tronox Mineral train on UA-cam
Great video, wow, on engine pulling 100
plus cars, a testament to the strength of those engines. Not to mention long hood
Forward just like the SR did it. NS not using DPUs is just mind boggling. Thanks for sharing, take care
A proper old fashioned train on NS. Only one loco for 136 cars! That'll clean the exhaust stack out.
True that!
Nice video Jawtooth it's good to see that Norfie is doing better 👍. That one NS engine must have alot of power to it.
Hope you have a good day jawtooth stay warm and hydrated and hope you have a blessed week
Jaw Tooth Big Thumbs Up
Thanks!
I counted 124 cars on the first train with one locomotive.
me too...
😲👊🏼
Loco 509 going..."Look, I'm an Alco!"
maybe distributive power capable , awesome videos always
Great point!
What’s you’re opinion on train car spray painting
I counted 135 cars on the second train.
Thanks for counting cars Bill!
123 cars pulled by one loco running long hood forward!! Nothing better than that today!!!
The “DP” sticker is a new sticker that they’re putting on the sides of the locomotives. It means that that particular locomotive is capable of running as a DPU.
We learn something new every day
what is a DPU
@@madmikemadmike2175 Distributive Power Unit
@@offtherails2862 I thought it was Direct Power Unit
Thanks for the info!
Hello from het UK. Another day, another video and another location. I feel like I must have seen loads of American trains, even though in real life, I haven't seen any at all!
JT has made some amazing catches, he's a pied piper for fascinated railfans! 🤣🤠
@@donaldstanfield8862 Yes. You start watching one of these videos and suddenly half the day has gone!
Hello U.K
From the United States
Many thanks! You should come over here and see some trains
@@jeremypreece870 Springfield Illinois here, where in UK are you, I've been there six times, maybe near where you live!
Just a few months ago you were elbow to elbow with other fans at this location and now you're a party of one. Single long hood forward was a great catch. When CP got some of their first GE's they tried single units on midwest SOO sections it was dropped due to them plodding along @ 35mph or so plus the occasional road failure on single track. Get a kick out of the Wisconsin Central covered hoppers coming home for yet another load of roofing granules. CSX train had two obscure cars in the consist The red GRY Gary Railway coil car which is probably ex South Shore and then the gon past the DPU ex EJ& E. Note DPU is about 80% of the way back and sometimes is done to expedite yard setouts. Poor Norfie is getting an overload of activity flailing away at the stick. A fun trackside day
DP decal=has DPU capabilities.
DP is an entirely separate arrangement to control locomotives that are physically separated from the lead unit (s) and therefore impossible to connect via Multiple-Uniting. The first locomotive at the head of the train is called the "Lead unit", and "Remote units" can be located at separate positions throughout the train.
Is that anything like DPU?
i like your videos a lot better than wide world of trains you talk like you know what is going on
That's a CSX symbol that the engine can be used as a DPU elsewhere in the train.
dp stands for distributed power
Ttx graffiti is all done by same person. Probably a rail car builder option.
AWESOME!!!🔻🔺🔻🔺🔻☢️🔻🔺🔻🔺🔻
Just think, the new long trains cut the number of trains we watch in half. I love your animals, especially the "train watcher"!
Thought it really doesn't matter which way the engine is facing.
You may want to ask WWOT about the DPU symbol. He has some merch with it on them. Norfie "hey, hey watch the face, it whats keeping this channel afloat!"😁😄
Nice video. I'm watching it a I hang out alongside a railroad line. Thanks Brian.
Awesome! I hope CSX gets some good trains there for you. Maybe a coal train or a DPU train lol
Nice catch
DP = Can be put in another part of a train that makes JT say "DPU, I C U!" or WWoT say, "DPU ALRIGHT!"
Don't recall if that CSX manifest train was Q560, which meant it would be going through WWoT Country.
Yes sir these 2 guys Jaw Tooth and Wide World of Trains have unique ways of saying DPU one always adds the Alright at the end of DPU the other adds the I.C.U. at the end of DPU 😆
Interesting little stat from Mike over at WWOT: I never noticed it before, but this video confirms it. Over there, they had a BAD derail with a sheared knuckle all at once. There was only one car involved but that front truck was MANGLED. On the rear? That was the first triple-axle railcar I'd ever seen, put it that way. :O That train had about 110 cars, maybe??? He made the comment of how, compared to CSX and CP, how Norfolk Southern used very few DPUs, "and here we are at another NS casualty. Use more DPUs, NS! One would figure they'd learn that by now," was basically the comment.
Now, here you have a NS loco pulling a train solo...Go figure. :O
That was a long train for one locomotive !
Distributed Power (DP) System is a proven control and communication system enabling coordinated braking and traction power distribution between lead and remote locomotives for faster stopping times and shorter stopping distances
Interesting, thanks
I like watching reporting marks go by. Saw the SSW covered hopper and went blank. Thanks to all below who reminded me it was St Louis & Southwestern then Southern Pacific now Union Pacific. Fun to see old marks go by.
Wow...One engine Wow....Too Powerful....😎
Great video Jawtooth! Now I'll be looking for the circle with the DP! Thanks for sharing!
I don’t know why but I just don’t like seeing diesel locomotives pulling loads backwards
It’s amazing to see a single machine to pull a train of more than 120 cars. But, more than the number of cars is their weight that counts. If all cars are filled or all are empty, it must make a huge difference!
Right, if it were completely loaded, wouldn't it be more efficient with two or more engines, plus the effect on starting and stopping?
Probably. The railroad is trying to save money
It does make a big difference. In my neck of the woods, an empty coal train weighs 6,000 tons. A loaded coal train weighs about 20,000 tons.
Exactly!!
I think also that the terrain (up and down hills along the route) would make a big difference too.
OLD SKOL!! Long hood forward like SRR did with all their hood units!!!
The 'DP' is for railfans who may be watching who speak Spanish... 'Disfruta Plenamente'... 'DP' ... and means 'Enjoy Fully' = Disfruta (enjoy, command or imperative form of the verb 'disfrutar'), Plenamente (fully, the 'mente' makes 'plena' an adverb). You'd think they'd just spell it all out, but no, railroads are all on a tight budget due to increasing fuel costs. It seemed so apparent to me. Gracias por tu video, Señor Jaws. RT sends... envía... Colonia Centro Histórico, Puebla, México...
Wow jaw tooth Ns backwoods unit just like the olden day with NW loved going long forwards for protection from collusions at crossings . Csx 👍🏻. Video . Robin 6766 🇨🇦 🇺🇸👍🏻
re: 7:00 my guess is that it's to show that that locomotive has been fitted with the radio equipment needed for distributed power since DPUs run off radio control. but then it's funny how the actual DPU at 14:47 did not have that decal (at least on that side)
Hi Jawtooth Just wanted to say I enjoy your videos. I have a couple of questions for you. 1. How do you and other railfans know the number of the train and it's destination. 2. Do railroads have a schedule for trains that is online for public view. Thanks
No there is no set schedule,
Just get a scanner, find out
The frequency for the railroad companies on your
Area and you'll have up to the minute intelligence on
All trains rolling in your area
I enjoyed that video👍👍
Thanks 👍
Ofcourse often CSX they change is my opinion I say to see who's perfect driving those trains go, stop timer for engineer crew's also cool junky hoppers, tanks and is about 155 cars long 2nd train about the same also "I know they hook up that DP unit oh no DPU" now...
Have often Wondered Why some Railroads Don’t seem to Learn from their Outdated Policies and Procedures. 🤪👎
3:09 mark - nice to see a couple of covered hoppers with the SP [Southern Pacific] and SSW [St. Louis Southwestern aka Cotton Belt] on the NS drag. Of course, both cars had the UP shield. The CSX had a plethora of coil cars still displaying their original home: NW, NYC, GTW, and Conrail. What we're seeing here is a business that has reduced train crews from four to two and the use of one crew to take care of essentially a minimum of two trains in one.
GTW is owned by Canadian National, not NS.
First PpG hopper car I have ever seen in about the middle of the tied down train.
The DP sticker on the locomotives mean that all the locomotives with that sticker on it are DPU capable and it’s a new thing that CSX has done! CSX is doing it to all the newest locomotives that they have!
You do like to run big trains over there. Great stuff thanks. Chris from England.
The second train was powered more sensibly with 4 units. Probably got the job done a little easier? Thank you.
🚂🚃🚄🚅🚆🚇🚈🚉🚊🚝🚋🚋🛤🛤 trains!
Wow awesome catch of the NS LHF I got the best train race ever yesterday
Thank you for another great video Jaw Tooth! I love your enthusiasm for trains and all the different places you show in your videos. I am a map geek so I look them up on Google maps. Take care!
Thank you very much!
Great location and video but aside from that, there is some really great audio here today, especially as the CSX train leaves and I think does a brake check. I may be wrong but still a great video with great audio.
FYI; The Southern Railroad also designated the long hood as forward. It wasn’t until after the merger of the Southern and N&W that they started designating the short hood end as forward. I use to pick up a Southern train and hated having to run the long hood forward.
Never liked the long hood forward concept or the old Alco's with the nose splitting the view between the engineer and the head brakeman. Back in the day as a brakeman for the SP out of Houston, I often saw Southern, N&W, and L&N engines at the power/caboose yard on Hardy Street. I suspect they came off the Beaumont sub that leads to/from Louisiana because I never saw those engines on any other sub.
David Barnett We did run through with the Southern going to Houston and the engines stayed with the train all the way to Houston. I hired out on the Texas & Pacific in New Orleans. Then the T&P and Missouri Pacific merger. Then the MP and UP merger. We ran to DeQuincy where the crew change was to run into Houston.
Cool to see B&O position lights still standing
I found some on the Toledo Sub also
It's amazing how much 1 engine can move.
the leading CSX loco seems to have Wi-Fi symbol on the side of the cab
is there any particular reason they would run long hood forward?
Long hood forward looks bad ass. Can’t see doodly squat though lol
Norfie loves a cane. Such a long train there was no centerbeam 😥
the circle on the csx train is distributed power that is what dp stands for
Now we'll have DP and Lightening Bolts on the CSX locomotives, and of course there model type.
Wow that was some nice long trains what a great 👍 👌 sopt to see the trains great 👍 👌 one probably watch it again later
Those trains were long and those letters DP in the circle is distributed power.... Jaw, did you hear about the KCSM intermodal train that went from Lázaro Cárdenas to Chicago?, was the first intermodal train for 20 years in the chicago subdivision of CP.....
Good morning jaw tooth how is the family
Doing pretty good and hello to you!
Great catch - the long hood forward train harkened back to old times, when first generation Geeps were run that way to protect the front end, as the NW management had just switched from steam and were getting used to diesels. They did not have any F-units in freight service and did what they were used to in the steam days. Now with visibility beng more important they don't run long hood forward as much.
Nice long trains today. DPU, I see you! Haha Oh boy did they empty the yard. I love those tier 4 locos. That NS loco is pretty tough. Thanks for enduring the cold to make these awesome vids, Jaw Tooth.
Wow, crew change and right off they had to wait for 136 car set to pass, guess that's a relaxing start? Zzzzz!
Ask the train driver what the DP stands for
That's impressive that one loco was pulling all those cars!
That single engine had to be working hard
Wow JT this was an amazing catch,. If I was a train engine . I would go on strike and say No more until you give some help, I'm tired lol. thanks again 🙂
1. 126; 2. 144; Total 270.
JT should sell t-shirts, "DPU, I see you!". Great stuff, and thanks for the video.
Why do they put DPUs in the middle and not at the end?
08:15 We can see who does all the work in this team!
THAT DIESEL ENGINE DESERVE A BRAKE PULLING A LOT OF WEIGHT AND CARS MAKEING MONEY FOR TO COMPANY GOOD CATCH JT BE SAFE AND CAREFUL THANK YOU FOR SHARING THIS WITH YOUR SUBSCRIBERS JIM KAMMERER OF PHILADELPHIA NORFOLK SOUTHERN RULES MY RAILS 👍👍👍👍👍👍👌😁👍🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏
Thanks 👍. Have a great weekend
They were long trains. That poor locomotive pulling all those cars. WOW
That is the most I have seen for one engine
@@JawTooth So have I since watching your Videos.
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Great Catches!
One be shocked by the length of one engine trains especially locals and transfers.
I agree , the power is awesome
That third loco [grey] on the second set was smokin like crazy, it looks different, is that an older unit? From what I've read, the newest locos are more efficient, and it took a while to achieve the standards.
Yes, it's older. #509 is an AC44CW (essentially an AC Dash-9) which was built in 2001; the design is from the early 1990s. The other two locomotives on that train are Evolution Series locomotives. The lead locomotive, #3317, is a tier-4 emissions compliant ET44AH, which looks like it was built in about 2015; #970 is an older tier-2 compliant ES44AC-H, built in 2011. The crazy smoke is because it's an older, more worn-out locomotive, rather than the emissions standard of the design -- when new, it wouldn't have smoked like that.
@@beeble2003 Thanks, I'd read about the tier-4 standard some, amazing how emissions have dropped since the days of coal, it's incredible the amount of freight is moved with so much less pollution.
DP means distributed power, that unit can be remote controlled mid train or pushing on the rear.
When little Tommy asks, "How many cars can one backwards engine pull?" you can answer, "About a thousand if it's an NS rebuild." 😉
The loco can pull as much in either direction.
@@beeble2003 I know, 🌞.
That's awesome, one locomotive pulling that entire train.
Thanks for watching!
Yeah jt,that train was really long to be pulled by only one locomotive,i think maybe all those cars were empty?
Probably. thanks for watching William !
I hope the engineer sees where he's going
Another AWESOME video
That second train. Had some odd
Shaped Tank cars
On the end of it.
The first video of that push, pull train
Was great too
This video was from 2021??
So what i was wondering
Does the graffiti on those cars
Have any meaning to people
Who ride the rails
Or just someone's idea of art
Thanks 👍. I wonder what the weird words mean in the graffiti
Not sure what you mean about odd-shaped tank cars. If you're counting the single-loco NS train as the second one (second train to be seen in the video), that ends with five completely normal tanks. If you're counting the CSX train with the DPU (second train to pass the camera), that ends with four covered hoppers, nine completely ordinary looking tanks, a box car, two covered hoppers, two coil cars and another box car. Did you mistake the coil cars for tanks?
@@beeble2003 They must be coil
Containers
Thanks for the information
@@michaelhewitt258 OK. :) BTW, they're not actually containers. The car is a flat cat with cradles to hold the coils, and the container-like part is just a removable lid to keep the weather out.
The sound of the engines, great, nearly smelled the smoke. Thanks for my DDoT.
That NS train had 125 cars with one loco. Amazing. And, the CSX had 136 cars with 3 on the head end and a DPU.
Great video of these two trains, Jaw Tooth! It was neat seeing the Norfolk Southern engine running long hood forward. The CSX train did not take long to get up to a good speed. Thank you for uploading this video for us to watch.
NS POWER
Minimal power for such a long train, thanks for posting.
Live action
Odd how trains pull like that. I’ve only seen something like this once with kcs 4533 facing backwards and kcs 4029 facing forward.
The "DP" mean Distributed Power
Yes, I finally figured that out. First time I saw it I didn't know. They had just started putting those stickers on
That NS Southern locomotive was pulling backwards???😕
Loved seeing the Crab Orchard & Egyptian RR bulkhead flat car in the CSX train. Doubt I'll ever see very many more COER cars...........