Thanks for checking it out. I have started a new channel dedicated to just gpa repair. Trying to keep the videos short and im segments. Here is the link if you want to check it out. ua-cam.com/channels/elpuibybqrHZML0TBiB5NQ.html
So many thanks for this Video! I bought mine in 1980 here in Hamburg, Northern Germany. And used it on countless Scooter/ Bicycle/ Walking/ Sailing-Tours all over Europe up to ..last year :( and now thanks of your video :) Unlike the later 533, the 502 has an integrated pre-heating function. The valve opens in two stages: In the first quarter, compressed air from the tank is fed with the gasoline to the burner. This immediately creates this relatively clean flame for preheating the generator. When the generator is preheated and the valve is fully opened, the compressed air supply is closed again and only gasoline is fed out of the tank, which then evaporates in the generator and burns with this wonderfully quiet, clean blue flame.
Thanks for the video it really helps seeing a tear down. I was able to loosen the burn bowl by clamping a small pair of vice grips to the rim and tapping the grips with a hammer .I had soaked everything in oil over night.Next is to remove the fuel pickup, it will not move.great video and helpful tips
Glad I could help. They are making a tool now to remove the burner bowl. The next time I have the opportunity to tare down a 502 I plan on making one for myself. It should be an easy build. Thanks for watching and God bless.
Lost track of time on this one. Had to give up on the generator. Should have went to bed a couple hours earlier. I just threw it in the vinegar bath to soak over night and try it again later today.
I have a couple of similar stoves. Both run great, but now i know how to get one apart if i have to. Thank you for the lesson, Robert. Stay safe and stay cool
Thanks my friend. This wasn't much different than a lantern repair. Actually very simple once you know what you're doing. If you ever have any issues with one just let me know. Maybe I can help.
Good thing you’ve got a picture with your wife there. I was so impressed with your work, I was gonna ask you to marry me. You know what Red Green says, If women don’t find you handsome, they should at least find you handy. 😂 😘
Now that's the way ya do it. A very well done video. No long Spielberg waste of time intro, no talking about one thing while your camera is looking somewhere else , background music is perfectly subtle , your not even wearing nitric gloves like some Nancy boy. I have a very similar stove that needs a going over, it was given to me a while back, all covered in dust an spider webs, a little rust here and there just like yours, I would really like to see it go. With this video I feel I can take it apart and not break anything in the process, or overlook something that matters. I went looking for part 2 but I'm guessing it never happened, but there is a video on the optimus 8R Which I have, (for about 50 years) so I'm a new subscriber, I've got an old Coleman lantern given to me with the stove I'd like to see go as well and you cover that as well, very glad to have found your channel. You used a specialized tool to take a valve out of the tank, is that a Coleman product or what, all ways looking for a reason to buy a new tool especially if it makes a difficult job easy and saves damaging something ad well.
Thanks for the kind comments. I do catch myself rambling on with nonsense sometimes while making a video but with my editing software I am able to edit it out. Glad you like the video. There is a part two but I got some complaints about seeing the back of my head. I have started another channel dedicated more to the lanterns and stoves and a better video on the 502. Thanks for watching and the sub. God bless. ua-cam.com/video/rP4_88WkRUI/v-deo.html Part two/ ua-cam.com/video/Ryl2Wk95qTU/v-deo.html
Thank you for all the tips and sharing the tools you use and made and modified to clean up n restore one of these! I have a 533 duel fuel stove similar to this one , but I'm always on the lookout for Coleman stoves... Maybe I'll run into one of these some day, I hope!
Oh man this is an addiction Ray. I don't have as much experience with the stoves bur I have been spending a lot of time repairing antique gas powered lanterns. When you get one burning like it's new again it's a feeling you just can't describe. Hope you and your family are well. God bless.
Howdy Robert- it’s very obvious you’ve done this before. This is the first video I’ve ever seen where someone was redoing a Coleman lantern. I never knew how to fix em so I would just buy another one. Got several sitting around that need fixing. Thanks for sharing this. God bless you
I love to bring these old lanterns back to life. Really not much goes wrong with them other than insects. Lots of people replace the generator thinking they are bad but with a little patience they can be cleaned and they will work like new. Just be careful not to break the small cleaning needle on the end of the rod. My problem is I fix them and still buy more. Lol. Hope all is well. God bless.
Great video! You are very organized, you explain things well, love all of your neat tools. My stove looks to be in the exact same condition but without this nice setup, I’m a little leery of trying to tear it down. Wish I could mail mine to you and pay you to do the refurbish. This does look fun/relaxing as someone already mentioned. Thanks so much for making this video! Will be watching Part 2.
I have the same stove. It's a bit more rusty on the burner bowl than this one and gave me quite a difficult time coming apart. Thanks for the great tips. I would've gotten lost.
@@Chungustav If you don't mind repainting you can try soaking it in over cleaner or a car parts rust soak for a few days. Try to scrub it with a brass brush here and there. Or if you prefer force. Hold the can in one hand freely (not supported by a table, etc) and tap the burner with a rubber mallet. Letting it bounce away. Sometimes you can jiggle it loose or rock it back and forth. Heating up the threads and tapping with a mallet might work too. Persistence is key. Good Luck.
That stove is going to be like new when you get it done. Refurbishing these old Coleman camping lanterns and stoves looks like a hobby I could really get into. You can tell you have done a few of these over the years. Take care brother!
Yes. As long as I can get the generator apart it should preform like new. It's being difficult but I left it soaking overnight and hoping it will come apart today.
Great video. It was a damn spiders sack in the airtime. Was able to clean it out with a pipe cleaner and rifle bore cleaner. Question - Do you put anything on your parts after you clean the rust off? Great video!
Do you rebuild stoves for others? I have a 502 that needs help; but if I get it apart, I may not get it back together without ruining some of those tiny parts!
Yes. I charge 25 bucks plus and parts and the cost of shipping it back to you. Hopefully you won't need any new parts but if it does it will most likely be a generator and a reproduction is around fifteen bucks. Hopefully the old one will clean up with no issues and we won't have to order parts.
Hey Robert! I pulled out my old 502 yesterday to do a coffee challenge yesterday. I did a test fire and no problem. But of course, as soon as I started to film and go to light it, it stop running. No noise, gas, air, nothing. I'm not a real handy guy. So I'm afraid to take it apart. Do think it's the generator or the air pipe or something totally different that's clogged? This video really helped if I decided to attempt to take it apart.
I'm guessing it's the fuel air pickup inside the fount. This involves a complete teardown. If it's clogged up you can shake it or turn it upside down before lighting it and the fuel will run into the air hole and give it enough fuel to burn at first but can't pick up enough fuel to stay burning.
You could try putting a little seafoam in the fount and turn it upside down to get fuel in the tube and light it and let it burn out and repeat several times. This may clean it out without taking it apart.
I use neatsfoot oil for the pump leather. It can be found in the shoe department in most department stores. I got my check valve tool from Mike Wells on Facebook but you can also order them from old Coleman parts. Com www.oldcolemanparts.com/
I usually throw these away if they don't work right. I run into a lean condition on these I can't correct. Cleaning the valve. Making sure there's no hairline cracks on the tube. Replacing the generator. Worst stove to work on. I'm experienced too. Word of advice if it doesn't work properly don't buy these. I call it the lean condition of death.
@@doinsngoins soak it in a good penetrating oil over night or more and us a micro torch and try heating around the screw. Don't put the heat directly on the head tap the screwdriver with a hammer lightly as you try to turn it. Try turning slightly clockwise like your going to tighten it but just a touch. Just try to turn it back and forth while tapping with a hammer. If it's really stubborn and breaks you will have to drill and tap it.
I'm not exactly sure what your referring to as the key 🤔 If you're referring to the retaining clip or the pump stem? I probably have both in the parts bin. I could send you either or both. Thanks for watching and God bless.
@@BluegrassBushcraft long wrench, which is inserted into the hole for the pump rod. and then a long thread is screwed into it. I'm talking about this key. I will buy it. but I'm in Russia. how can i get it? Sorry for my English. health to you!
I see now that someone is making a tool to remove a stubborn burner and I think I can make one without much trouble. It will be really handy. Thanks for watching and God bless.
I appreciate your video and the information you have provided
Thanks for checking it out.
I have started a new channel dedicated to just gpa repair.
Trying to keep the videos short and im segments.
Here is the link if you want to check it out.
ua-cam.com/channels/elpuibybqrHZML0TBiB5NQ.html
So many thanks for this Video!
I bought mine in 1980 here in Hamburg, Northern Germany.
And used it on countless Scooter/ Bicycle/ Walking/ Sailing-Tours all over Europe up to ..last year :( and now thanks of your video :)
Unlike the later 533, the 502 has an integrated pre-heating function. The valve opens in two stages: In the first quarter, compressed air from the tank is fed with the gasoline to the burner. This immediately creates this relatively clean flame for preheating the generator.
When the generator is preheated and the valve is fully opened, the compressed air supply is closed again and only gasoline is fed out of the tank, which then evaporates in the generator and burns with this wonderfully quiet, clean blue flame.
The 502 is a great stove and really hard to beat.
It's my favorite of all the Coleman single burners.
Thanks for watching and God bless.
Thanks for the video it really helps seeing a tear down. I was able to loosen the burn bowl by clamping a small pair of vice grips to the rim and tapping the grips with a hammer .I had soaked everything in oil over night.Next is to remove the fuel pickup, it will not move.great video and helpful tips
Glad I could help.
They are making a tool now to remove the burner bowl.
The next time I have the opportunity to tare down a 502 I plan on making one for myself.
It should be an easy build.
Thanks for watching and God bless.
really enjoyed this video, learned couple things, and a couple tricks. Good stuff my friend
Lost track of time on this one. Had to give up on the generator. Should have went to bed a couple hours earlier.
I just threw it in the vinegar bath to soak over night and try it again later today.
,,interesting video Robert,,i enjoyed watching ,,can`t wait for part two,,
Thank you sir. Hope to see you again in the fall.
God bless
I have a couple of similar stoves. Both run great, but now i know how to get one apart if i have to. Thank you for the lesson, Robert. Stay safe and stay cool
Thanks my friend. This wasn't much different than a lantern repair. Actually very simple once you know what you're doing.
If you ever have any issues with one just let me know. Maybe I can help.
By Golly, Robert, Really Enjoyed This Tear Down, Can't Wait for part-2, Be Well, Friend ! ATB T & M God Bless
On my last night of work now before my four day weekend.
Should have it finished in no time.
Good thing you’ve got a picture with your wife there. I was so impressed with your work, I was gonna ask you to marry me. You know what Red Green says, If women don’t find you handsome, they should at least find you handy. 😂 😘
Now that's the way ya do it.
A very well done video.
No long Spielberg waste of time intro, no talking about one thing while your camera is looking somewhere else , background music is perfectly subtle , your not even wearing nitric gloves like some Nancy boy.
I have a very similar stove that needs a going over, it was given to me a while back, all covered in dust an spider webs, a little rust here and there just like yours, I would really like to see it go. With this video I feel I can take it apart and not break anything in the process, or overlook something that matters.
I went looking for part 2 but I'm guessing it never happened, but there is a video on the optimus 8R
Which I have, (for about 50 years) so I'm a new subscriber, I've got an old Coleman lantern given to me with the stove I'd like to see go as well and you cover that as well, very glad to have found your channel.
You used a specialized tool to take a valve out of the tank, is that a Coleman product or what, all ways looking for a reason to buy a new tool especially if it makes a difficult job easy and saves damaging something ad well.
Thanks for the kind comments.
I do catch myself rambling on with nonsense sometimes while making a video but with my editing software I am able to edit it out.
Glad you like the video. There is a part two but I got some complaints about seeing the back of my head.
I have started another channel dedicated more to the lanterns and stoves and a better video on the 502.
Thanks for watching and the sub.
God bless.
ua-cam.com/video/rP4_88WkRUI/v-deo.html
Part two/
ua-cam.com/video/Ryl2Wk95qTU/v-deo.html
Coming along nicely!!
Thank you sir.
Thank you for all the tips and sharing the tools you use and made and modified to clean up n restore one of these!
I have a 533 duel fuel stove similar to this one , but I'm always on the lookout for Coleman stoves... Maybe I'll run into one of these some day, I hope!
Thanks. I have the 533 also but I think the classic 502 is my favorite.
Cool video Robert really looking forward to part two! Love the vise u made and the special socket . Man that stove has a thousand pieces to it lol
Thanks John. It's much cheaper to make than it's to buy them.
You know me. Always trying to save a penny.
God bless.
Excellent refurbishing. Interesting. I'm pretty sure someone will find this video useful.
Thanks Nathan
Nice video Rob, I see you started doing what I do (cleaning up stoves) very relaxing fixing these up, thanks for sharing. ATB Ray
Oh man this is an addiction Ray. I don't have as much experience with the stoves bur I have been spending a lot of time repairing antique gas powered lanterns.
When you get one burning like it's new again it's a feeling you just can't describe.
Hope you and your family are well.
God bless.
Howdy Robert- it’s very obvious you’ve done this before. This is the first video I’ve ever seen where someone was redoing a Coleman lantern. I never knew how to fix em so I would just buy another one. Got several sitting around that need fixing. Thanks for sharing this. God bless you
I love to bring these old lanterns back to life. Really not much goes wrong with them other than insects.
Lots of people replace the generator thinking they are bad but with a little patience they can be cleaned and they will work like new. Just be careful not to break the small cleaning needle on the end of the rod.
My problem is I fix them and still buy more. Lol.
Hope all is well. God bless.
Nice thank you I just picked up a 530 a47 I need to clean and get going
Lucky.
I have been collecting for several years and still haven't found a 530 for my collection.
Thanks for watching and God bless
Great video! You are very organized, you explain things well, love all of your neat tools. My stove looks to be in the exact same condition but without this nice setup, I’m a little leery of trying to tear it down. Wish I could mail mine to you and pay you to do the refurbish. This does look fun/relaxing as someone already mentioned. Thanks so much for making this video! Will be watching Part 2.
Oh no. I am anything but organized. My shop is a real mess. I cropped the video so you can't see that part.
Lol. Thanks for watching and God bless.
I make sure the air circuit isn't stuck. Ones I've worked on don't lose air rapidly. Great video though!!
Thanks for watching and commenting.
God bless.
catching up on some oldies .. I'm thinking I might need one of these stoves...lolo
I have the same stove. It's a bit more rusty on the burner bowl than this one and gave me quite a difficult time coming apart. Thanks for the great tips. I would've gotten lost.
Thanks. There not much different than working on the lanterns.
How did you end up getting your burner off? Mine is rusted solid and I tried penetration buster and heat and still stuck
@@Chungustav If they are that bad you may have to drill them out and retap them. I haven't had to do this myself but I have heard of others doing it.
@@Chungustav If you don't mind repainting you can try soaking it in over cleaner or a car parts rust soak for a few days. Try to scrub it with a brass brush here and there. Or if you prefer force. Hold the can in one hand freely (not supported by a table, etc) and tap the burner with a rubber mallet. Letting it bounce away. Sometimes you can jiggle it loose or rock it back and forth. Heating up the threads and tapping with a mallet might work too. Persistence is key. Good Luck.
That stove is going to be like new when you get it done. Refurbishing these old Coleman camping lanterns and stoves looks like a hobby I could really get into. You can tell you have done a few of these over the years. Take care brother!
I give you fair warning it's an addiction you can't overcome.
You seen what's happened with me and my UA-cam channel. I hardly have time for it.
It’ll be good as new when you’re finished👍🏻
Yes. As long as I can get the generator apart it should preform like new. It's being difficult but I left it soaking overnight and hoping it will come apart today.
I got it! Thanks for the help ! , Wow! 502s are fantastic stoves.
Great video. It was a damn spiders sack in the airtime. Was able to clean it out with a pipe cleaner and rifle bore cleaner. Question - Do you put anything on your parts after you clean the rust off? Great video!
I usually rinse them really well with cold water. Then heat the with a torch and wipe with oil or spray with wd40.
Do you rebuild stoves for others? I have a 502 that needs help; but if I get it apart, I may not get it back together without ruining some of those tiny parts!
Yes. I charge 25 bucks plus and parts and the cost of shipping it back to you. Hopefully you won't need any new parts but if it does it will most likely be a generator and a reproduction is around fifteen bucks.
Hopefully the old one will clean up with no issues and we won't have to order parts.
Hey Robert! I pulled out my old 502 yesterday to do a coffee challenge yesterday. I did a test fire and no problem. But of course, as soon as I started to film and go to light it, it stop running. No noise, gas, air, nothing. I'm not a real handy guy. So I'm afraid to take it apart. Do think it's the generator or the air pipe or something totally different that's clogged? This video really helped if I decided to attempt to take it apart.
I'm guessing it's the fuel air pickup inside the fount. This involves a complete teardown.
If it's clogged up you can shake it or turn it upside down before lighting it and the fuel will run into the air hole and give it enough fuel to burn at first but can't pick up enough fuel to stay burning.
You could try putting a little seafoam in the fount and turn it upside down to get fuel in the tube and light it and let it burn out and repeat several times. This may clean it out without taking it apart.
What type of oil do you use on the pump leather and where did you find the check valve removal tool?
Thanks.
I use neatsfoot oil for the pump leather. It can be found in the shoe department in most department stores.
I got my check valve tool from Mike Wells on Facebook but you can also order them from old Coleman parts. Com www.oldcolemanparts.com/
If I have a stove like this and it doesn’t work. Will you be willing to fix it and sent it back if I get it to you plus a fee?
I will sure give it a try.
You can email me at
rhallthelanternguy@gmail.com
I usually throw these away if they don't work right. I run into a lean condition on these I can't correct. Cleaning the valve. Making sure there's no hairline cracks on the tube. Replacing the generator. Worst stove to work on. I'm experienced too. Word of advice if it doesn't work properly don't buy these. I call it the lean condition of death.
Throw away??? I love these old 502 stoves and would never throw away any part that can be repaired.
These gens. are really hard to come by these days.
If they run rich no problem. New granny and it's fixed or clean the old one.
Working on one now Robert! It's ugly ,
The ugly ones make great runners.
Use them for camping and don't worry about banging it up.
Can't get the burner cup off ....
@@doinsngoins soak it in a good penetrating oil over night or more and us a micro torch and try heating around the screw. Don't put the heat directly on the head tap the screwdriver with a hammer lightly as you try to turn it. Try turning slightly clockwise like your going to tighten it but just a touch. Just try to turn it back and forth while tapping with a hammer. If it's really stubborn and breaks you will have to drill and tap it.
@@BluegrassBushcraft
Will do Robert!
@@BluegrassBushcraft this works Robert wow ! 👏 thank you 😊
where to buy the key shown at 4:30?
I'm not exactly sure what your referring to as the key 🤔
If you're referring to the retaining clip or the pump stem? I probably have both in the parts bin. I could send you either or both.
Thanks for watching and God bless.
@@BluegrassBushcraft long wrench, which is inserted into the hole for the pump rod. and then a long thread is screwed into it. I'm talking about this key. I will buy it. but I'm in Russia. how can i get it? Sorry for my English. health to you!
You can email me your mailing address, and I will be happy to send it to you.
My email is.
rhallthelanternguy@gmail.com
@@BluegrassBushcraft thank you.
I would think that these would be simalar to a cpleman lantern. I have two that Need some TLC.
I see now that someone is making a tool to remove a stubborn burner and I think I can make one without much trouble. It will be really handy.
Thanks for watching and God bless.