First Time Reaction to Carpenters - We've Only Just Begun
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Maybe you can’t think of anyone else that sounds like her is because there is no one that sounds like her,
and there will never be anyone. She was one of a kind.
Look up Tori Holub. She sounds remarkably like Karen Carpenter although it is my feeling that there will never be another voice like hers. She was a one in a million and the music back then was real music. Just pure talent.
Richard and Karen actually sang their own back-up vocals…they were pioneers in many ways. Easy to harmonize with yourself 😉
Yes, for those of you who wonder what that technique was called it was process known as "overdubbing". They were the pioneers of that technique.
@@robertgunn1537 I always felt that Richard indirectly helped with the production of "Bohemian Rhapsody."
Richard attributes his use of overdubbing his and Karen’s vocals to him listening to his father’s Les Paul records when he was growing up. Les Paul was the pioneer, but Richard perfected it.
@@carolynadams9537Thx good to know!
Paul Williams did do back up on some. Can't remember which ones.
That guy on the tambourine is TAMBOURINING the SH*T out of it.
I noticed that dude too. he was really into it.
I would have been like, "Brother, are you doing the same song we are?"
BUT Karen actually played the tambourine on the studio recording.
Still the most beautiful voice I've ever heard
Knowing that if a record producer would have kept his warped opinions to himself and kept his mouth shut - we would still have Karen. He told a shy upcoming self conscious young girl that even though she was a major talent she would never be good enough because she was "too fat". WHAT MORON DOES THAT? People think about what words actually come out of your lips. Be mindful about what you are commenting on posts. He literally killed her. I absolutely adore Karen and admire her God given gifts. How privileged are we to have her music continue to touch our souls after all these years... thanks for your reaction Tasha.
Another person who was awful to Karen was Bette Midler. Midler sang a version of "Superstar" before the Carpenters covered it n for a Platinum record... Midler thereafter often and qyite publically made fun of how Karen looked ... Midler apologized after Karen died. Thanks for nothing.
There was also some charming 'journalist' who described her as "Richard's chubby little sister." All of it was nonsensical but it did irreparable damage to Karen.
What record producer are you talking about? The only person that I ever heard that made comments about her weight ( if that is what you are speaking of) was her mother.
@tinasmallwood9546. It was NOT a writer or a record producer whose comment that Karen was "chubby" that caused Karen to become an anoretic/bulimic! It was actually her domineering, Felix Unger to an extreme, neat freak mother Agnes Carpenter who hero-worshipped her son and viewed him as a genius musical phenom, but alternately viewed or treated her incredibly gifted daughter as a no-talent, second class citizen/loser that caused Karen to develop her mental illness because Karen felt unloved by her mother!
This song started as a commercial for a California bank. Richard heard it and thought it would work for Karen's voice and the rest is history.
Notice how Karen keeps her hands moving and tapping throughout the video. She considered herself to be a drummer first, and a singer second. She would've rather been behind a drum set than be thrust forward into the spotlight.
There is NO ONE else since Karen!! At that time Karen Carpenter and Linda Rondstat were and still are in MY opinion...the epitome of perfection. ❤ RIP Karen
I’ve always wondered would it have changed anything if she stayed behind the set and sang
@@FUBAR1986 It's a big "IF", but I believe that it would've made a difference. Would it have been enough of a change? That's what we'll never know.
That’s how the eating disorder started
I'm a drummer and noticed that too. She is an awesome drummer as well as that angelic voice she is so famous for.
This was everyone's wedding song in the 70's and 80's
Yes it was
Paul Williams wrote this song for a bank commercial lol.
I am 60 years old, and I feel like I relived my whole life's journey in 3 minutes.
You’ll never by disappointed by a Carpenter’s song
Besides playing excellent keyboards, Richard arranged all their songs and wrote some of their hits.
Paul Williams is the prolific songwriter who wrote many hits for different artists in the 70s.
I had an Album of his with all the hits he'd written, so many!
most of the songs were burt bacarach....
I loved Paul Williams songs and his voice. It was unusual. His rendition of Old Fashioned Love Song has always been my favorite version of that song. And he was also one of my favorite apes. lol
@@chloedevereaux1801I believe you need to rethink your position, on the song writing, for the Carpenters recordings. The most of their hits were composed by Paul Williams with Roger Nichols.
@@cazzychapsso many of his compositions were not included, on any of his “Greatest Hits” albums; such as his soundtracks for “ Bugsy Malone” and all the works that he did for “The Muppets” and the rock opera “Phantom of the Paradise”. The latter movie was a required taste, but the soundtrack was very good. One of my favorite songs, of his was “Let me be the one”.
Chills and goosebumps.....the sign of really great music!! Harmonies were done by Richard and Karen in multiple layers (overdubbing); a technique originally done by Les Paul and Mary Ford, whom Richard admired. In concert, other band members had to add the extra layers.
This was our high school graduation song. But at the time it had been over a decade since it was released, so being teenagers most of us thought it was corny and dated; of course later I grew to realize that it was an amazing song whose lyrics fit the occasion perfectly, and the performance above is nearly flawless.
The most recognizable voice on the planet! Lovely, classy Karen Carpenter!
My HS graduation song of 1979! And, this was played at many weddings and baby showers back in the day! Really, the Carpenters had a "sound" of their own. The 70s were the BEST decade of music, so many genres and original melodies.
Thank you for the in depth review of the Carpenters. I love Karens voice but also feel sad when I think of the sadness that surrounded Karen. It was a great loss when she left this world. Looking forward to you covering many of their hits. Thank you for your great reviews. 😊
I can't think of any artist who's voice is as captivating as Karen's 🙂
All vocals are by Richard and Karen, they are layered in the studio.
One of the first group a to multi-layer their vocals, the BeeGees later also mastered this.
@josephapplebee9111 I might give that to Les Paul, he created doubling, and The Four Seasons. Frankie Valli's voice was doubled. Either way, thank you to whomever it was! :-)
Billie eilish and her brother do the exact something .. they record themselves doing the background and layering it
Tasha, don't think twice about it ... I weep almost every time I hear this when I think about and realize the things you said, which is pretty much every time I hear it. Also, I just love your reactions and your personality. You are one awesome lady !!!
If you like her lower register you might also enjoy, "Leave Yesterday Behind", "Masquerade" and "Solitaire".
And "Nowhere Man".
Masquerade is one of my favorites.
One of the things that i loved about Karen's singing was the fact that she sang the words so clearly, that you didn't need to concentrate on the lyrics. One could relax and enjoy the music and the lyrics were easily understood. It made the whole song so much more enjoyable.
A Song For You, I Can't Make Music are another 2 songs that are special in that way
Lovin’ that melancholy…it’s a bittersweet vibe that can only be achieved through Karen’s voice!
OMG !!!??! That is so true, and it is so more than any voice I can think of/ imagine!! That reality is at once magical and eerie !?!
I remember seeing them in concert...wow that was 50 years ago...sigh.
The song for just about all weddings in the 1970's.
It's always hard to pinpoint why some songs bring us back to a moment in time. For me, I feel 8 years old listening to this.
Karen and Richard did all the harmonies on their records by overdubbing in multiple tracks. When they toured they had the band members fill in the harmonies which worked out real well. You should check out the Carpenters on the Ed Sullivan show in 1970 doing a live performance at Walter Reed Army Hospital outdoors. singing a medley of Burt Bacharach hits. Karen is singing and playing drums in this video and the band members are adding to their harmony. Excellent performance and quality for it being 1970 and singing outside.
This song came out when I was like 6 or 7. Even though it’s a hopeful song it’s always made me cry. Still does. I remember being in the backseat of the car while my mom and grandma were in the front. This song came on and I just thought one day my Grandma won’t be here. One day my mom won’t be here. Yeah I had those deep thoughts. Hahaha. My grandma lived with us years later. Got to know her so well. She taught me to crochet. She died when I was 15. Big loss. She was a strong sweet woman. My mom just turned 88! Remarkable women in my life. I’m rambling but this song always brings tears to my eyes. And I’m still not sure why. Her voice is just incomparable. Love it. Anyone else fel sad with this song?
It was originally a jingle for a Crocker Bank commercial. Yes, the ad came first. :)
Great analysis Tosha, I can tell you are moved by this great music and the duo that was The Carpenters. Thank you!
The harmonies on the records are Karen and Richard. When they performed live, the band members would join in. But on the records, it was just Karen and Richard. The effect was created by over-dubbing. They would record their first track with just the two of them. Then, they would play it back and sing the harmonies again with the track, so that the sound was doubled. They could do this over and over. One of their songs on the "Close to You" album had 32 over-dubbed harmony tracks. There's a video on UA-cam that you should watch: "The Carpenters - Richard explains overdubbing.
Perhaps others already mentioned this, but Richard took note of a short verse of We've Only Just Begun on a local bank commercial on TV. He recognized Paul Williams' voice & since they were both under contract at A&M records, Richard caught Paul in the parking lot and asked him if there was more to the song... and there was. Also, as others have said, Karen and Richard recorded multiple harmonies of their voices and over a dubbed them on tape. The other players on their records are hired professional musicians on staff at the record studio.
This song was written by Paul Williams for a bank commercial and Richard found it and contacted Paul and added arrangements.
Right. The commercial did too well. Many potential customers were turned away from the bank as they did not qualify.
Yes. It was a Crocker Bank commercial. For those of us who grew up in California, we knew the bank commercial before we knew it as a song by the Carpenters. The original Crocker Bank commercial is out there on UA-cam.
@@j.andrewk.327Qualify for what? A checking account? It’s a bank. If you’re talking about a loan, there are many places to secure one of those.
We've Only Just Begun was a Crocker Bank Commercial ( A California bank) and was written and sung by Paul Williams. You can find it on UA-cam. When Richard heard it, he called Paul and asked if there were more verses. It was their 2nd big hit and it also launched Paul's career.
Paul wrote the lyrics. The music was written by Roger Nichols.
Well after Karen put her voice to it I think most people were like Paul WHO??
Karen was a gift to history and music. Her warm, sweet, resonant voice was one of a kind, and in a class all its own.
I agree with your comments. You are a really good soul. Thank you for your thoughts and perspective. Subscribed😊
One of the prettiest songs ever. Brings back our dating days back in the early 70s. 😊
The song was written by Roger Nichols (music) and Paul Williams (lyrics).
Great reaction. Karen was a great talent. She had the voice of a melancholy angel.
Thank you, Tasha. Yes, Karen did have some sadness in her life - and Dionne Warwick once said that some of the music they sang sometimes matched Karen’s life. She had many happy times, but she had sadness that seemed to be seen in their music by some viewers and listeners 😢 thank you. I hope you would react to their song, “Where Do I Go From Here?” Peace
That is my favorite song by the Carpenters. So haunting and b
Thank you for your thoughts on this video of Karen and her brother. I grew up listerning to them and they were wonderful I couldn't believe it when I heard she past in such a tragic way. A great talent lost to the world of music. My eyes well up just hearing her voice. To think I'm a neally 63 year old man and still feel that emotion 😢.
Carpenter's recorded with the very best session players in the business, the same ones that played on hundreds of hits in the sixties, seventies and eighties, like Hal Blaine or Jim Gordon on drums
Many were the actual Carpenters band members. Joe Osborn essentially “discovered” and first signed them. The Hal was brought in. Jim is also such a sad tragic story. Sigh.
Beautiful song, beautiful reaction....RIP Karen!
Beautiful with just pure talent.
Thank you for loving and embracing our beloved Karen and Richard carpenter. We loved turning the radio on in the 70s because they were always playing their songs which were very nourishing for the soul, even to this day. Their easy breezy melodies seemed to form the fabric of a simpler time, and for many years we took comfort in that comforting voice on the radio.
So glad you're doing an indepth show on The Carpenters . Such a sad ending to what could have been a long, long career😟 I believe that song actually it as a tv commercial they did for a bank
The Crocker Bank, it’s on UA-cam and Paul is singing.
Karen's life was heartbreaking. Never able to please her Mom.
This song was the classic wedding song of the 70s. My sister had it played in her wedding.
"We've only just begun was a phenomenon for a decade as it became a favorite at weddings for a decade. Richard in addition to singing and playing piano and keyboards, he did all the arrangements, wrote some songs and was the producer in most cases. The backup singers you hear on this video was an overdub with Richard's voice overdubbed a couple of times to make it sound like more than one voice. This was a frequent technique Richard used, especially with Karne's voice. On some occasions the other members of the band would sing back up as well.
Tasha, thank you so much for your research and respectful tribute to the legendary Carpenters. Because of young people like you, their extraordinary musical legacy will live on through new generations of audiences.
Richard also sang lead occasionally, about one to three songs per album. As far as I know, none were released as singles except perhaps as b-sides. My guess is Saturday is the most famous of the Carpenters songs with him on lead if you are curious.
EFFORTLESSLYYYYYY YES TASHA, KAREN AND ( JONI MITCHELL ) TRUE CONTRALTOS 😊 I'M SUPER GLAD THAT YOU'RE GONNA GO INTO THEIR HISTORY, YOU SHOULD ENJOY IT! 💯😊
This song started life as an American TV commercial for a bank! A couple (I guess getting a mortgage from said bank) buying a house and starting their lives out together
If you're doing a deep dive into the Carpenters, dig deep. Their non-hit material is just as compelling. Songs such as "Baby It's You", "A Song for You", "Road Ode" and many, many others are worth a listen (and review). They multi-tracked their two voices to create the backing vocals. Not until their Christmas album did they dare add other voices to their recordings. What you hear as a "choir" is just the two of them. That's why it blends so well. Richard's arrangements were key to showcasing Karen's voice so well. You couldn't pick.a better group to dig into. You won't be disappointed. Saw them live in '73. They were truly on "Top of the World".
Paul Williams and Roger Nichols were hired to write a jingle for a bank. The bank wanted a jingle to draw in first time home buyers.
“We’ve Only Just Begun” was born. Later the Bank realized that was not their target clients as first time home buyers were a bad risk and scrapped the ad campaign.
This is my very first time watching your video. I have watched alot of Carpenters reaction videos and i must say that i am very impressed with you. You took the time to know the back story of Karen and Richard. But, most importantly, you are now a full-fledged, card carrying Carpenters fan. To me, Karen Carpenter is the greatest female singer ever. Thank you for reacting to the Carpenters. Guess its time to subscribe!!! Great, great job!!!
Richard is layering his own vocals- Double and triple, singing slightly ahead or behind so it sounds like a chorus.
It's amazing how fresh this song sounds today given its age
She sings liner note same as Anne Murray. Very difficult to do but she does with incredible eaze- go to wings of Pegasus and watch the voice graph- pitch perfect no analysis needed.
Thanks for taking on this deep dive into the Carpenters. I find Karen's voice so mesmerizing. She's #1 in my book as far as female vocalists are concerned. Richard is top notch too and their harmonies are incredible. And their songs and videos are clean!
That tambourine better give my man his money!
Regarding her lower registry she said "The money is in the basement".
They have a vast catalogue of songs. The one I think really shows how haunting her voice can be is their song Solitaire. I would highly recommend it.
They had a regular band that backed them up they are in this video most of of the time it was those people your looking at.
I loved your reaction to this, one of the most beautiful songs ever performed. And also, Karen played the drums in this song. She was the drummer for some time.
Fun trivia fact. This was taken from a coffee commercial. Richard heard it, and created a whole new arrangement for them to record!! Absolutely brilliant.
I seen them in concerts three times. They were great.
I was producer for Discovery back in the early '90s, interviewed and did a TV deal with Richard, a confident, supremely talented artist while also modest and personable. Re: Karen, he said they tried everything, finally had to give up. He said there were numerous 'issues' at hand.
I loved this woman.
Karen had the most perfect voice ever. They did all the own background vocals.
There's an amazing medly type duet between Karen and Ella Fitzgerald produced for a 70s TV show. You can find it on youtube. It's quite remarkable hearing those two together.
This was the song we (our choir) performed at our graduation ceremony. Very appropriate, don't you think?! ❤
Beautifully wriitten expertically sung,feeling
and NO auto-tune or stupid electric drumboxes or anything....just talent!
A to of background that you hear, whether it be instruments, or vocals came from session players. The Carpenters (like so many others) used the LA session group known as "The Wrecking Crew." These musicians were an eclectic and amazing group of pros who appeared on so many albums back then...There is a great documentary on them..Very interesting.
If you really want to hear how rich an diverse her voice can be, listen to Masquerade and Solitaire! She is terrific on these!
My dad knew both of them. He ran a body shop and worked on their limos.
I met them when they lived on Howe street- New Haven Conn. was sad when they moved to California
Their harmonies are themselves in multiple tracks. Multi layered voices. Michael Jackson did that with his harmonies as well.
Great review. I absolutely love Carpenters ❤
Richard and Karen would record a song, then in post production, they would record their own backing vocals. Also, this song started out as a jingle for California-based Crocker Bank. Richard Carpenter happened to be watching TV when the ad for the bank came on. He heard the tune, which at the time was short, and immediately began looking for its composer. As it turned out, Paul Williams, who had penned a lot of music and was himself a recording artist, had written this tune. Richard Carpenter worked out a deal with Williams, and they flushed the song out, the result being what you hear on this video.
Karen's beautiful voice literally brings tears to my eyes.
thank you for sharing your reaction and your intuition about what was influencing her life.
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I remember the day she died. It was one year after I completed college in 1983.
I miss her.
She would be about 73 today.
Just imagine what could have been if she still was performing for another generation.
They probably would have ruined her with rap lyrics, and auto-tune.
All the vocals were done by Richard and Karen, layered tracks Richard arranged, he also arranged the horns and strings
Similar to Patsy Cline, Karen Carpenter's voice is iconic, sliky smooth, & like no other. Patsy is my #1 favorite, followed closely by Karen in the #2 spot. No one else can compare or compete and both taken away from the world far too soon. Just imagine the vast library of wonderful music we would have received from these two naturally talented ladies, had life not been so cruel.
Please check out Karen's last recording titled "Now" (1983).
It makes me cry every time I hear it as her voice is so hauntingly beautiful...
This is the one .
The top of The Carpenters mountain.
As I sit here with tears in my eyes, it takes me back to our wedding - there could never be a better wedding song. It's been 50 years and the music is still with us. It is so sad - her death was a real loss to so many of us. I can't help but think if she was still with us, she could fill a stadium with just those who had marriages and love stories to this music.
The reason Richard Carpenter hated the photo on the cover of the "Close To You" album was because it made Karen and Richard appear to be a married couple, when of course they are actually sister and brother!
Fire reaction !
The perfect wedding song
Your right nobody sounds like her! Strong voice, melancholy and gentle all at once!
They overdubbed their voices in the studio singing multiple parts and I guess when they performed live, the other band members sang the backgrounds with them.
Many people, before the Carpenters hit it Big, thought that it would be Richard, that would be the star of the band. But when Karen started singing, her Star shone Hotter than Richard. Fortunately, Richard knew that Karen was the Star, and thus Richard composed and arranged all their songs to showcase Karen's singing voice and talent. Richard was a Good Big Brother. He did great.
There is a video with John Bettis, who was in Richard's jazz band, along with Karen. They asked John, "What did Karen sound like, the first time you heard her sing?" His response was, "She sounded just like she does today, and she was only 16 years old. Karen had that God-given voice from Heaven, but she didn't want to sing. She just wanted to be the drummer."
But, fortunately for us, once she started singing, they pushed her into the spotlight. RIP, Karen.
This song was played at every wedding in the 70s lol. She had a rich, clear tone like no one else. It was impossible not to love her.
This song was written for a TV commercial for Crocker Bank, targeted at newlyweds looking to finance their first mortgage. I remember seeing it when I was a little kid. The ad got such a positive response for the song that it was offered to the Carpenters, who expanded it and put it out as a record. HUGE hit. But yeah, it was an ad in its first incarnation!
If you look hard around the internet, you may be able to find a film called "Superstar" by Todd Haynes. His first film, which he made with a home camera and a bunch of Barbie dolls. It's the story of Karen Carpenter and her battle with anorexia, but he couldn't get the rights to her story from her family, who wanted to deny and bury what had happened to her, so he had to use the dolls. (He also couldn't get the rights from Mattel to use the dolls, so the project never got a release until the rise of the internet, when it leaked online.) Do see if you can find it, because her story is a great cautionary tale about the ravages of fame.
Richard was famous for over dubbing their own voices many many times to form the backing harmony. It's just them.
I believe the Australia concert in the early 70s was the black and white. The bbc concert is ‘71 and color but the sound quality is really good.
Excellent reaction!!! Great song.
Karen was one of a kind, a truly angelic voice.
The first verse only had been written for a Tv advert . Richard had to hurriedly add more verses when public interest created demand for a Single release.
This was written by Paul Williams as a commercial for Crocker National Bank. Richard saw the commercial and with Paul finished it to a full length song. The rest is history.
They took a song for a bank commercial and turned it into this!❤.
Thank you for this. I grew up listening to them. BTW, their "Christmas Portrait" album is my favorite Christmas album. The "Christmas Waltz", "Merry Christmas Darling" and the "First Snowfall" songs are awesome. Richard Carpenter works magic with arranging songs. Those arrangements complemented Karen's voice. He is very talented in his own right.
Karen died from complications of anorexia. Very sad and I believe she was maybe one of those who brought a face to the disease/affliction. A forever eternal lasting voice!🙏🏽❤️
In the 60s and 70s, there was an organized group of session players in L.A., called The Wrecking Crew. These were musicians that hadn't got their break yet, or weren't able to go on long tours for whatever reason. The Carpenters utilized them often.
Her voice was butter
It was called over dubbing, and Richard was a master!