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Thanks Mark, and awesome to hear from you again:) I’m a big fan of catalyst since I just let vids render while I have to do stuff for the day job. Therefore the wide starting point is a real ‘have cake and eat it’ situation. After a 10% crop in post you have around a 20mm f3 in full frame terms with great smoothness - pretty good outcome for me:) Hope you’re doing well and having a kick ass weekend 👍💪
My ZV-E10 arrives today! I'm pumped. I decided to go with the kit lens while I save up a bit for that "perfect" vlogging lens. I've been debating in my head between this one and the 10-18 Sony. I have a couple of Samyang and Sony full frame lenses for my A7C and I feel like the Sony lenses have a much better quality, but maybe I didn't give my Samyang's enough chance to really shine. Thanks for the review, this should help my decision!
Great to hear from you Jill and exciting times! Congrats on the news purchase:) I do generally agree that most don’t lenses will be a better overall experience than the Samyang. I think the key here is a combination of value and the wider aperture-that sold it to me and after my testing I was actually pleasantly surprised by the quality. I’m way too in to bokeh to live with the f6 equivalent of the 10-18 as much as I like the other features of that lens 😂 Hope you’re doing well and having a great weekend 😁
Tamron 11-20 f/2.8 is a solid choice, too. Yes, the 10-18 is stabilized and goes wider, but the ZV-E10 can use active stabilization, and then while that's a heavy crop, at 11mm, you are probably going to be fine. As for the Samyang, if you want the f/2, you should get it. Remember that most third-party lenses have kind of iffy corner performance, but if you're using active stabilization, you're cropping the corners anyway, so you're using the strongest part of the lens. I personally think Sigma 16mm f/1.4 is by far the best wide lens for the system, but I think if you want to hand hold your camera, it's probably not wide enough unless you have giraffe limbs.
Thank you Sir:) I generally get either that 'or to many terrible jokes' so it's nice when people enjoy it:) Thanks for watching, consider subbing if you like the content and have an awesome weekend!
Hey Group, thanks so much for the kind words:) And congratulations on the news purchase- exciting times! Thanks for watching, consider subbing if you enjoyed and have a great day 👍
Thanks Oka, really happy you enjoyed:) And do let me know if you have suggestions- it was a genuine request for ideas 😂 Thanks for watching, consider subbing if you enjoyed and have a great day 😁
Great video this will certainly be my next lens for my zv-e10 would just like to ask where you using an Nd filter outside and if so what one where you using.
Hey TFS, appreciate the kind words. I only use NDs if I'm wanting to film at 1/50 shutter, most of the time I just use aperture priority mode. When I do use NDs I'm a fan of K&F concept ones - you can find some thoughts here: ua-cam.com/video/GOFITJqu0fU/v-deo.html Thanks for watching, consider subbing if you enjoyed and have a great day!
I agree. I got the Sam Yang 12mm because of Mr. DB’s previous videos. And I got the M2 crane yesterday. 550 grams complete. The Crane M2 max holds 700+ grams respectively. Or barely respective at max lol. Good camera set up for me starting out.
Hey Voicewav, great to hear from you again:) And congrats on the purchases - that does indeed sound like a really nice setup - ideal for portable but high quality vlogging:)
Really great to hear Kwak, hope shooting is fun so far - I think it’s a winning combo:) Thanks for watching, consider subbing if you enjoyed and have a great day 👍
Just got my copy of this lens to replace my manual version of it. Continuous AF for f2-2.5 is literally garbage for any focus area! I dunno if I got a bad copy but everything else works fine. Minimum you can use for video is f2.8. AF is okay for photos across all focus modes and areas. Images are as sharp as the manual version. I'm using an a6300. Hopefully Samyang can release a firmware update to fix the continuous AF concern.
Hey folks, really sorry to hear about the AF issues. It definitely sounds like the body is part of the issue here - on the ZV-E10 the af works great in good light and more patchy in low light, so not sure if bad copies of the older body focus systems are the problem. I hope you get solutions and let me know if you have better experience with replacements!
PL, thanks so much sir. Definitely a grind while the day job is hectic but positive vibes like this definitely boost the motivation to keep going and improving! Hope you’re doing well and having a great weekend 💪
Believe it or not I work in corporate finance: advising on M&A, valuation, business strategy, corporate structures and governance etc My sense of humour is exactly the same in those settings too 😂 For better or worse…
This looks like a viable lens for vlogging or filmmaking. The 18mm full frame equivalent of this lens with very little distortion is a great choice to have. To me, the low light test was rather unusual in that I would not choose to shoot in such a situation. There was very little light on your face, and I would challenge any lens to focus as well. Maybe a comparison with another lens? The price isn't too bad, either. By the way, my a6400 arrives today. Great review.
Hey ATF, awesome to hear from you again:) Agree that I was pleasantly surprised by how well the lens did and I’ll definitely be getting plenty more use from it. On low light, you’re right: the test is trying to simulate how you might vlog in low light without having your own light - so basically the least optimal situation but showing what the lens can do in tough situations. The extra bit showing even a tiny light gets you back to good performance was to try and show what a more sensible setup might look like:) Congrats on the new purchase too! Exciting times and hope you have fun with it:)
DB firstly, you are so suave, Secondly, your lighting is awesome. Totally spot-on. Thirdly, your articulation and succinct breakdown of the lens is dope! Because of your review, I'm returning my manual focus Samyang and upgrading to the AF. Thank you, sir! Heya I have the Sony ZV-E10. I notice the wide angle is different when on photo vs video mode. It crops in on video. Why is that? Have you suggestions on settings to keep the ultra wide in video mode? I need to shoot exercise full-body shots, in a ultra small studio.
Bill thanks so much for the kind words:) I don’t think I’ve ever been called suave before but I’ll take it 😂 As for the angle difference: it might be the aspect ratio of the photos - this can be changed in the photo settings menu. By default it’s 3:2 whereas video is always 16:9 which is comparatively a small crop in. That’s the first thing that springs to mind so fingers crossed 🤞 Thanks for watching, consider subbing if you enjoyed and have a great weekend 👏
Yes do watch out for the potential poisoning effects of the lens, there is antidote formula in the affiliate links;) 😂 Thanks so much Yui, really appreciate the nice feedback and fantastic to have you on board 👍💪
Great video, as always. I have the manual version of this lens, and it's actually one of my favorite lenses. Love the colors that come out of it, it's got a lot of character. I also have the Crane M2, and it works really well on that. Always in my backpack, in case I feel I need the ultra wide look, it's so easy to carry around because it's so light. I don't know if this version is heavier, but mine is really feather light. Also, I got mine on Ebay for $125, brand new, so it was a no brainer for me, and I use manual focus most of the time anyway, so I'm happy with it. Keep it rockin', great work.
Thanks Rock and great to hear from you:) I’m not sure about the mf version but the AF is around 213g, so definitely light 😂 And for 125 that’s a real bargain - nice work! Definitely a strong setup on the m2 and mitigates the stabilisation drawbacks of the zv-e10 for anyone looking at a light and not too expensive vlog setup m. Good stuff as ever dude, hope you’re doing well and having a great weekend 👏
Hey man, awesome video. Did you have a chance to test this on the Fuji X-S10 by any chance? I've read that the AF doesn't work so good on it, the lens seems to be the ideal one I'd like but I use AF a lot so would be a shame if it's not any good!
Just subbed, quality video again. How's the overall editing experience by far? With using Catalyst and lav mic, I guess you stabilize one by one, but how do you sync the sound? Do you connect the lav into the camera? As I learn more and more, it seems like quite hard work to make youtube videos.
Thank you so much and welcome on board- fantastic to have you 👏😁 Audio is synced automatically as I’ll plug my mic directly into the camera. You’re right about catalyst, it’s limited to stabilising videos one at a time, but I usually let it render while doing tasks for the day job so it’s not too bad:) YT vids can definitely be a lot of work depending upon n the production style, editing and other things you want to achieve, but it can also be very satisfying and rewarding so there’s two sides to that coin:) Hope you’re doing well and have a great weekend 👏
Awesome. If you’ve got some available time, it’d be cool if you could show us the difference, pros and cons of this lens using catalyst browse and a crane M2. Thanks man!!!
Hey DM, always great to see you- thought I’d replied to this but clearly not - sorry 😂 I’ll add to the video idea list but short version: catalyst requires post production and high shutter but is gear free and therefore super portable; M2 gets everything done in camera plus can get types of shots you just can’t get handheld; but it and extra thing to buy, balance, carry and charge so it’s not hassle free 😂 Both are great at many things alongside having unique strengths so it’s useful to consider your shooting style and workflow for each situation:) Hope that helps and hope you’re doing well 👍
@@dbvares8745 no worries. Since I posted this comment, I actually got a ZV-E10 and since I already had this Samyang 12mm, I put it to the test. You can check it out! (I didn't plan any of the shots or anything, I was just walking, in a kinda fast pace, and pointing and shooting, just to see what I could get from this camera). What do you think? I love this camera. Because of your videos I sold my A6600 for this ZV-E10 and I have zero regrets. Catalyst Browse is game changer IMHO, even with the extra work flow. Thanks bro!!! ua-cam.com/video/RHey3qb62t4/v-deo.html
The great dilemma: im rocking tamron 1770, after replacing it from 18-105. Loving the f2.8! But it is not wide enough. For interior design, you need wide glass. Im really liking the samyang 12mm but now i wonder, should i save the money and go FF instead? But even if i go FF, the wide lens is allll expensive. In fact all accessories for full frame are not cheap..
Strong analysis Awin, full frame ain’t a cheap option whichever route you go, though of course it has advantages. I’d say the Samyang is a solid choice for a nice wide FOV and it’ll work well on apsc or a future full frame upgrade. Thanks for watching, consider subbing if you enjoyed and have a great day 👍
Hey Jimi, thanks for sharing the interesting thoughts and the nice feedback:) Really appreciate it 👍 Thanks for watching, consider subbing if you enjoyed and have a great day 👏
And thank YOU for coming back and sharing the nice feedback:) Congrats on the new lens! I hope you have as much fan shooting with it as I have with mine 👍
Thank you too. I will definitely post some videos from my trip to Africa in November - December. I'm still in Romania and waiting for zv-e10 to arrive from UK (e-infinity store). With the Sigma 16+56 and the new Sigma 18-50 2.8 it should be a consistent upgrade from the old Panasonic Lumix tz-100 1 inch. You can see what I've done so far with it :). I shoot mainly in Burundi, where we go once or twice a year. Good luck!
Hey Aquinoj, love the bokeh in your profile pic! I’m not planning to re review the samyang 24mm as it’s a full frame lens so would be a 36 field of view on the zv-e-10 which would seem an unusual purchase to make for zv-e10 specifically. However I might do something about trying all my lenses on the zv-e10 to see what happens so I’ll include if I do that:) Thanks for watching, consider subbing if you enjoyed and have a great day 👏💪
@@dbvares8745 hey thanks! the 36mm equivalent fov is one side( close enough) of the 35 vs 50 “natural eye” FOV debate, which is why I was curious. of course I ended up getting the 12mm based on your review. already subbed and looking forward to your tests!
Hey Brent, new vid due on the next few hours so hopefully you won’t have to wait too long:) If you mean the 16-50 pancake then I’d take the samyang for wide shots and bokeh, the Sony only really wins on zoom versatility. Hope that helps:) Thanks for watching, consider subbing if you enjoyed and have a great day 👏👍
Hey Paul, I don’t recall hearing the AF but if the mic sensitivity is high I guess it’s possible - I try to use a lav mic usually to isolate me talking from the environment when possible:) As for the focus change it could be depending on the af sensitivity settings you have - generally the lens af has been good for me and tracks well. Thanks for watching, consider subbing if you enjoyed and have a great day 👍
Glad you liked it Colin and appreciate you taking the time to share the nice feedback:) Thanks for watching, consider subbing if you enjoyed and have a great day 👏
Hey Pilot, sorry for my delay. Yes the zve10 is essentially the same photograph camera as the A6-series so quite capable. Though it does lack the flash and viewfinder of some models so hear that in mind! Thanks for watching, consider subbing if you enjoyed and have a great day 👏
Appreciate the kind words Syed - funny thing is since the pandemic I've been cutting my own hair haha - thankfully its simple enough that I can do an ok job! Thanks for watching, consider subbing if you enjoyed and have a great day!
Hey Masood, I’d say the wide view and fairly wide aperture do make it a good choice for real estate videography, yeah:) Thanks for watching, consider subbing if you enjoyed and have a great day 💪
Hey Forza, it’s the zve10, I’m not aware of a way to get the red border on the a7c (though perhaps it is in the recent firmware; haven’t had a chance to check!) Thanks for watching, consider subbing if you enjoyed and have a great day 👏
I just tried this lens and zv-e10 combo. I reay like the video. I also tried to take a photo and it gives me some dark corners on right top and left bottom. Do you think this specific lens has a defect?
Hey Dainty, I honestly take very few photos but some amount of vignette (slightly darker corners) is common on some lenses. I’d suggest seeing if your photo editing software has some vignette removal/adjustments and seeing if there are vignette tests for the lens out there before concluding it’s a faulty lens. Hope that helps:) Thanks for watching, consider subbing if you enjoyed and have a great day 😁
Update! It was not a vignetting. It was literally dark corners on one up right and down left. And got a replacement and this one is totally fine! I must’ve had a defective one. Thank you. Love your reviews!!!
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I had this lens but sold it because of the constant micro noises pick up by my short gun mic. The noises seem to be produced by the focus hunting of the lens. And the constant focus hunting seem to happen mostly when there is a dramatic change in lighting condition. Like when taking video from indoor to outdoor, and I realise when the hunting started, it will not stop. The noises produced are extremely soft...the camera's internal mic will not be able to pick up the noise, but when attached a short gun mic, the noises is so audible. I used this lens on my a6500. I m just wondering do you have the same issue? As I actually never hear other youtubers mention abt this issue at all.
Hey Mr Pipu, I don't think Samyang make a native version for Canon mount, but if you use an adapter it should be possible to make it work:) Thanks for watching, consider subbing if you enjoyed and have a great day!
As a Fuji shooter where the system is plagued with a lack of good, budget, wide angle options... I'm probably definitely picking the 12mm for sure. Mostly just as a glorified selfie cam with my girlfriend. Btw, is the ZV-E10 any good for casual photos?
Firstly, fantastic name. I like potatoes but their general lack of professionalism is the one lingering issue;) 😂 And yeah, the zv-e10 is essentially the same photo camera as the other recent sont crop releases: a64/61/6600. Lack of viewfinder but slightly newer and slicker autofocus are the only significant differences. So should be more than powerful enough for casual photos or more:) Hope that helps! Thanks for watching, consider subbing if you enjoyed and have a great day 💪👏
Hey TS, great to hear from you:) Yeah they reached out to me last week - pretty cool for a decent size lens maker to connect with a crappy small channel 😂 It looks like I’m linked in the description but I might go drop a comment too to be a bit more visible - thanks for highlighting!
Hey TLJ, just spotted your previous comment. I’d say the sigma is better for low light and bokeh; the samyang is better for width of view and lightness. Hope that helps!
Hey FWTB, legend that you are:) I was pleasantly surprised too. Apart from the low light AF issues this lens did a really solid job and I think I’ll be getting plenty more use from it:) Hope you’re doing well and have a kickass weekend 💪
Sony ignored Linux users. I use 2 editing packages, both Linux --- no Windows or Mac and no Catalyst Browse. I have ordered this lens, but we are locked down in Saigon ..might be a while before I get it. Good Show -- Cheers
Hey TextPat, great to hear from you again. And frustrating on the Linux front, I’m sorry to hear because catalyst is one of Sony’s big selling points for me right now - I’d be really irritated in your shoes! 😂 Hopefully your lens won’t take too long to arrive though- I was pleasantly surprised by how good it is after doing my testing:)
Haha thank you 😊 It sounds annoying to me so I’m glad it’s better for you 😂 Thanks for watching, consider subbing if you enjoyed and have a great weekend 👍
Thinking of getting rid of this lens, having regrets on selling my sony 10-18mm for this one, autofocus perfomance is terrible my viltrox 23mm and sigma 16mm performs way better, if only the autofocus performance is on par with the viltrox and sigma i'll be happy with this lens, also flaring is bad
Hey Shane, sorry to hear about the issues! Are you shooting in good light? Mine struggled with autofocus in low light but did a pretty flawless job on good light. If you’re having issues when we’ll lit I wonder okd you might have a defective unit
@@dbvares8745 It was terrible in lowlight keeps on focusing on the background, in goodlight the af is not very smooth sort of creeps into focus with lots of hesitation but was able to get better results when I switched the af tracking sensitivity to high
Im guessing it also has something to do with the camera im using since im using it with the old a6300 but I never had this issue with the viltrox and sigma lenses that I have
Hey Shane, sorry to hear that - sounds legit frustrating! I think you light be right about the AF in the a6300 being part of the difference-that’s 2-3 generations of refinement behind the zv-e10 I tested with and the camera might be carrying some extra weight and doing the lens a favour. Either way I hope you can either find a fix or an option that works better for you 🤞 Thanks for watching, consider subbing if you enjoyed and have a great day 💪
Samyang has a reputation for flaky AF across their range of AF lenses. Not surprising since they are so new to making AF lenses. However, at the 12mm length I would prefer to go full MF with Laowa, or… as is actually on my shopping list… choose the Zeiss Touit 12mm f2.8. Due to the Zeiss/Sony lens partnership there is more sharing of lens tech between the two company’s compared to other third parties. My Zeiss Batis and Sony/Zeiss lenses, like the 55mm f1.8 all AF without any of the Samyang issues, so I have high hopes that the little Touit may be a good match for the ZV-E10. The Touit seems to fly under the radar in recent times, but I would love to see someone putting it up against this Samyang in a comparison review some day.
Hey Artistjoh, awesome insights as ever:) And good shout on the Touit stuff; in the uk at least they seem both under the radar and a bit rare - I’ve hardly seen them when looking across all available lenses with the larger retailers. Now my curiosity is truly piqued 😂 I quite like MF for b roll but I do like the comfort blanket of af for vlogging and subject tracking so it remains a nice incremental addition for me:) Hopefully if the channel can grow I’ll have more funds and opportunities to try lenses - so many I’d like to test but at the moment it’s limited to things I think I’m likely to keep and can justify the price of 😂 Hope you’re doing well and having a great weekend 👏
@@dbvares8745 Cheers from Sydney. If the ZV-E10 plus Touit 12 passes my wife’s very critical eye I may have one around the end of the month. If so I will let you know about my experience with it.
GG, thanks so much and welcome on board. Fully agree on the humour - these videos are just like very public therapy sessions to try and slowly improve it;) Take care and have an awesome weekend 👏👍
You are indeed number 1 Tora:) I’ve been appreciating your support since the channel was about 99% smaller so always great to hear from you:) Hope you’re doing well and having a great weekend 👏
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Great point with the catalyst crop and the 12mm. So much more room to correct the footage.
Thanks Mark, and awesome to hear from you again:) I’m a big fan of catalyst since I just let vids render while I have to do stuff for the day job. Therefore the wide starting point is a real ‘have cake and eat it’ situation.
After a 10% crop in post you have around a 20mm f3 in full frame terms with great smoothness - pretty good outcome for me:)
Hope you’re doing well and having a kick ass weekend 👍💪
I have this lens coming tomorrow
This is what I was looking for sony zv e10 + samyang 12mm + m2 👏👏
Hey Yashwant, I agree, I think it’s a winning combination!
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@@dbvares8745 already subscribed 😁 keep uploading more looking forward to watch them
My ZV-E10 arrives today! I'm pumped. I decided to go with the kit lens while I save up a bit for that "perfect" vlogging lens. I've been debating in my head between this one and the 10-18 Sony. I have a couple of Samyang and Sony full frame lenses for my A7C and I feel like the Sony lenses have a much better quality, but maybe I didn't give my Samyang's enough chance to really shine. Thanks for the review, this should help my decision!
Great to hear from you Jill and exciting times! Congrats on the news purchase:)
I do generally agree that most don’t lenses will be a better overall experience than the Samyang. I think the key here is a combination of value and the wider aperture-that sold it to me and after my testing I was actually pleasantly surprised by the quality.
I’m way too in to bokeh to live with the f6 equivalent of the 10-18 as much as I like the other features of that lens 😂
Hope you’re doing well and having a great weekend 😁
Tamron 11-20 f/2.8 is a solid choice, too. Yes, the 10-18 is stabilized and goes wider, but the ZV-E10 can use active stabilization, and then while that's a heavy crop, at 11mm, you are probably going to be fine. As for the Samyang, if you want the f/2, you should get it. Remember that most third-party lenses have kind of iffy corner performance, but if you're using active stabilization, you're cropping the corners anyway, so you're using the strongest part of the lens. I personally think Sigma 16mm f/1.4 is by far the best wide lens for the system, but I think if you want to hand hold your camera, it's probably not wide enough unless you have giraffe limbs.
@@mbvglider giraffe limbs lmao
Thank your for sharing this video, very helpful! Greetings from Italy 🇮🇹
Underrated video, thank you you answered all my questions on the lens
Thanks for your vids on these lenses. Can you test out the Sony ZV E10 zooming feature using the 12mm samyang lens?
Lol your humor is 2nd to none! Really makes these videos entertaining
Thank you Sir:) I generally get either that 'or to many terrible jokes' so it's nice when people enjoy it:) Thanks for watching, consider subbing if you like the content and have an awesome weekend!
@@dbvares8745 I didn’t realize I didn’t subscribe sorry about that I just did
Ahhh I just picked up the zv. I can’t believe how small it is and 12mm lens coming Monday. Great video!
Hey Group, thanks so much for the kind words:) And congratulations on the news purchase- exciting times!
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Enjoyed the vid. But the outtake was hilarious!! 🙂
Thanks Oka, really happy you enjoyed:) And do let me know if you have suggestions- it was a genuine request for ideas 😂
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Great video this will certainly be my next lens for my zv-e10 would just like to ask where you using an Nd filter outside and if so what one where you using.
Hey TFS, appreciate the kind words. I only use NDs if I'm wanting to film at 1/50 shutter, most of the time I just use aperture priority mode. When I do use NDs I'm a fan of K&F concept ones - you can find some thoughts here: ua-cam.com/video/GOFITJqu0fU/v-deo.html
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Very important video for bloggers & others using the lenses.
Thanks Bijon, great seeing you again and appreciate the nice feedback 😁
Love you brother and blessing. Hope you will good performance.
I agree. I got the Sam Yang 12mm because of Mr. DB’s previous videos. And I got the M2 crane yesterday. 550 grams complete. The Crane M2 max holds 700+ grams respectively. Or barely respective at max lol. Good camera set up for me starting out.
Hey Voicewav, great to hear from you again:) And congrats on the purchases - that does indeed sound like a really nice setup - ideal for portable but high quality vlogging:)
This is the route i decided to go, i have had them both for a few days and it they both are great so far.
Really great to hear Kwak, hope shooting is fun so far - I think it’s a winning combo:)
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Hi. Can this be used on this 7ac also? Thinking of upgrading. Thanks
Quality as ever DB (creased at the concussions joke)
Joke? Or recounting a traumatic experience? You decide…;)
Just got my copy of this lens to replace my manual version of it.
Continuous AF for f2-2.5 is literally garbage for any focus area!
I dunno if I got a bad copy but everything else works fine.
Minimum you can use for video is f2.8.
AF is okay for photos across all focus modes and areas.
Images are as sharp as the manual version.
I'm using an a6300.
Hopefully Samyang can release a firmware update to fix the continuous AF concern.
Same, worst AF lens I have. Also using a6300
Hey folks, really sorry to hear about the AF issues. It definitely sounds like the body is part of the issue here - on the ZV-E10 the af works great in good light and more patchy in low light, so not sure if bad copies of the older body focus systems are the problem. I hope you get solutions and let me know if you have better experience with replacements!
Each video gets better, Fab video!
PL, thanks so much sir. Definitely a grind while the day job is hectic but positive vibes like this definitely boost the motivation to keep going and improving!
Hope you’re doing well and having a great weekend 💪
@@dbvares8745 what's the day job?
Believe it or not I work in corporate finance: advising on M&A, valuation, business strategy, corporate structures and governance etc
My sense of humour is exactly the same in those settings too 😂 For better or worse…
@@dbvares8745 fart and spacesuits then 💥🙈
This looks like a viable lens for vlogging or filmmaking. The 18mm full frame equivalent of this lens with very little distortion is a great choice to have. To me, the low light test was rather unusual in that I would not choose to shoot in such a situation. There was very little light on your face, and I would challenge any lens to focus as well. Maybe a comparison with another lens? The price isn't too bad, either. By the way, my a6400 arrives today. Great review.
Hey ATF, awesome to hear from you again:) Agree that I was pleasantly surprised by how well the lens did and I’ll definitely be getting plenty more use from it.
On low light, you’re right: the test is trying to simulate how you might vlog in low light without having your own light - so basically the least optimal situation but showing what the lens can do in tough situations. The extra bit showing even a tiny light gets you back to good performance was to try and show what a more sensible setup might look like:)
Congrats on the new purchase too! Exciting times and hope you have fun with it:)
@@dbvares8745 yes truly
DB firstly, you are so suave, Secondly, your lighting is awesome. Totally spot-on. Thirdly, your articulation and succinct breakdown of the lens is dope! Because of your review, I'm returning my manual focus Samyang and upgrading to the AF. Thank you, sir! Heya I have the Sony ZV-E10. I notice the wide angle is different when on photo vs video mode. It crops in on video. Why is that? Have you suggestions on settings to keep the ultra wide in video mode? I need to shoot exercise full-body shots, in a ultra small studio.
Bill thanks so much for the kind words:) I don’t think I’ve ever been called suave before but I’ll take it 😂
As for the angle difference: it might be the aspect ratio of the photos - this can be changed in the photo settings menu. By default it’s 3:2 whereas video is always 16:9 which is comparatively a small crop in. That’s the first thing that springs to mind so fingers crossed 🤞
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@@dbvares8745 Thank you. I'll give that a shot. I'm already subscribed. So, I'll be grabbing every nugget you share.
Found a gem channel❤️
Man you are too good ❤️
Thank for reviewing in a detailed way❤️
Subbed love it ❤️
Really appreciate this and all the other comments:) positivity goes a long way 🙏👍😊
Great video Vares:)
Great and much appreciated comment Bronson;)
cool, you poison me with this lens already haha. you earn my subs sir
Yes do watch out for the potential poisoning effects of the lens, there is antidote formula in the affiliate links;) 😂
Thanks so much Yui, really appreciate the nice feedback and fantastic to have you on board 👍💪
Great video, as always. I have the manual version of this lens, and it's actually one of my favorite lenses. Love the colors that come out of it, it's got a lot of character. I also have the Crane M2, and it works really well on that. Always in my backpack, in case I feel I need the ultra wide look, it's so easy to carry around because it's so light. I don't know if this version is heavier, but mine is really feather light. Also, I got mine on Ebay for $125, brand new, so it was a no brainer for me, and I use manual focus most of the time anyway, so I'm happy with it. Keep it rockin', great work.
Thanks Rock and great to hear from you:)
I’m not sure about the mf version but the AF is around 213g, so definitely light 😂
And for 125 that’s a real bargain - nice work!
Definitely a strong setup on the m2 and mitigates the stabilisation drawbacks of the zv-e10 for anyone looking at a light and not too expensive vlog setup m.
Good stuff as ever dude, hope you’re doing well and having a great weekend 👏
@@dbvares8745 yeah, I have the a6400, so the gimbal really helps, for sure. ☝️
Super good video man 👊🏽
And a super appreciated comment sir, thanks for sharing the nice vibes:)
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Hey man, awesome video. Did you have a chance to test this on the Fuji X-S10 by any chance? I've read that the AF doesn't work so good on it, the lens seems to be the ideal one I'd like but I use AF a lot so would be a shame if it's not any good!
Just subbed, quality video again. How's the overall editing experience by far? With using Catalyst and lav mic, I guess you stabilize one by one, but how do you sync the sound? Do you connect the lav into the camera? As I learn more and more, it seems like quite hard work to make youtube videos.
Thank you so much and welcome on board- fantastic to have you 👏😁
Audio is synced automatically as I’ll plug my mic directly into the camera.
You’re right about catalyst, it’s limited to stabilising videos one at a time, but I usually let it render while doing tasks for the day job so it’s not too bad:)
YT vids can definitely be a lot of work depending upon n the production style, editing and other things you want to achieve, but it can also be very satisfying and rewarding so there’s two sides to that coin:)
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@@dbvares8745 Thank you so much for the kind and detailed reply! Have a great weekend too!
Awesome. If you’ve got some available time, it’d be cool if you could show us the difference, pros and cons of this lens using catalyst browse and a crane M2. Thanks man!!!
Hey DM, always great to see you- thought I’d replied to this but clearly not - sorry 😂
I’ll add to the video idea list but short version: catalyst requires post production and high shutter but is gear free and therefore super portable;
M2 gets everything done in camera plus can get types of shots you just can’t get handheld; but it and extra thing to buy, balance, carry and charge so it’s not hassle free 😂
Both are great at many things alongside having unique strengths so it’s useful to consider your shooting style and workflow for each situation:)
Hope that helps and hope you’re doing well 👍
@@dbvares8745 no worries. Since I posted this comment, I actually got a ZV-E10 and since I already had this Samyang 12mm, I put it to the test. You can check it out!
(I didn't plan any of the shots or anything, I was just walking, in a kinda fast pace, and pointing and shooting, just to see what I could get from this camera). What do you think?
I love this camera. Because of your videos I sold my A6600 for this ZV-E10 and I have zero regrets. Catalyst Browse is game changer IMHO, even with the extra work flow. Thanks bro!!!
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The great dilemma: im rocking tamron 1770, after replacing it from 18-105. Loving the f2.8!
But it is not wide enough. For interior design, you need wide glass. Im really liking the samyang 12mm but now i wonder, should i save the money and go FF instead?
But even if i go FF, the wide lens is allll expensive. In fact all accessories for full frame are not cheap..
Strong analysis Awin, full frame ain’t a cheap option whichever route you go, though of course it has advantages. I’d say the Samyang is a solid choice for a nice wide FOV and it’ll work well on apsc or a future full frame upgrade.
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best analyse ever
Appreciate the review!
And appreciate the nice comment:) Hope all is good with you LML and wishing you a great weekend 👍
I already have the Sony 10-18mm and the Sigma 16mm, but this would be a great daytime blogging lens. Thank you for your review and humor!
Hey Jimi, thanks for sharing the interesting thoughts and the nice feedback:) Really appreciate it 👍
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@@dbvares8745 Already subbed!
Thank you for this video. I ended up by purchasing the Samyang
And thank YOU for coming back and sharing the nice feedback:) Congrats on the new lens! I hope you have as much fan shooting with it as I have with mine 👍
Thank you too. I will definitely post some videos from my trip to Africa in November - December. I'm still in Romania and waiting for zv-e10 to arrive from UK (e-infinity store). With the Sigma 16+56 and the new Sigma 18-50 2.8 it should be a consistent upgrade from the old Panasonic Lumix tz-100 1 inch. You can see what I've done so far with it :). I shoot mainly in Burundi, where we go once or twice a year. Good luck!
Great vid! Will you re-review the Samyang 24mm using the ZV-E10? Please? 😜
Hey Aquinoj, love the bokeh in your profile pic! I’m not planning to re review the samyang 24mm as it’s a full frame lens so would be a 36 field of view on the zv-e-10 which would seem an unusual purchase to make for zv-e10 specifically.
However I might do something about trying all my lenses on the zv-e10 to see what happens so I’ll include if I do that:)
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@@dbvares8745 hey thanks! the 36mm equivalent fov is one side( close enough) of the 35 vs 50 “natural eye” FOV debate, which is why I was curious. of course I ended up getting the 12mm based on your review. already subbed and looking forward to your tests!
Currently taking it easy till your next video, wondering your opinion verses the Sony Pancake lens?
Thank you! :)
Hey Brent, new vid due on the next few hours so hopefully you won’t have to wait too long:)
If you mean the 16-50 pancake then I’d take the samyang for wide shots and bokeh, the Sony only really wins on zoom versatility.
Hope that helps:)
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Very nice review man.
Great video and good points
Is it normal to hear the autofocus in the recordings? Why does the focus change when I move my head?
Hey Paul, I don’t recall hearing the AF but if the mic sensitivity is high I guess it’s possible - I try to use a lav mic usually to isolate me talking from the environment when possible:)
As for the focus change it could be depending on the af sensitivity settings you have - generally the lens af has been good for me and tracks well.
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The into was hilarious 🤣😂
Glad you liked it Colin and appreciate you taking the time to share the nice feedback:)
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Is the zv e10 good for photography?
Hey Pilot, sorry for my delay. Yes the zve10 is essentially the same photograph camera as the A6-series so quite capable. Though it does lack the flash and viewfinder of some models so hear that in mind!
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excellent. Thanks for sharing. I love your haircut.
Appreciate the kind words Syed - funny thing is since the pandemic I've been cutting my own hair haha - thankfully its simple enough that I can do an ok job!
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@@dbvares8745That is great. You are very talented...
Already subscribed buddy!
God bless you!
Hahaha that outro 😂
I have some odd humour but at least I try to make it work 😂
another good review!
Thanks Huckleberry, great to hear from you again and hope your weekend is great 😁
What do think is it a good choice for indoor Real Estate videography with Sony ZV-E10 camera ?
Hey Masood, I’d say the wide view and fairly wide aperture do make it a good choice for real estate videography, yeah:)
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7:39 is this camera sony a7c? How do you get the red indicator on the screen when recording?
Hey Forza, it’s the zve10, I’m not aware of a way to get the red border on the a7c (though perhaps it is in the recent firmware; haven’t had a chance to check!)
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what is up with the background starting at 2:30? That looks way too distracting
I just tried this lens and zv-e10 combo. I reay like the video. I also tried to take a photo and it gives me some dark corners on right top and left bottom. Do you think this specific lens has a defect?
Hey Dainty, I honestly take very few photos but some amount of vignette (slightly darker corners) is common on some lenses. I’d suggest seeing if your photo editing software has some vignette removal/adjustments and seeing if there are vignette tests for the lens out there before concluding it’s a faulty lens.
Hope that helps:)
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Update! It was not a vignetting. It was literally dark corners on one up right and down left. And got a replacement and this one is totally fine! I must’ve had a defective one. Thank you. Love your reviews!!!
This video make me want to buy the samyang lens 😀
😂 well I guess that’s a good thing?:) Of you do decide to buy then the affiliate links in the description support the channel ar the same time, so long as it’s still a good deal for you:)
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I had this lens but sold it because of the constant micro noises pick up by my short gun mic. The noises seem to be produced by the focus hunting of the lens. And the constant focus hunting seem to happen mostly when there is a dramatic change in lighting condition. Like when taking video from indoor to outdoor, and I realise when the hunting started, it will not stop. The noises produced are extremely soft...the camera's internal mic will not be able to pick up the noise, but when attached a short gun mic, the noises is so audible. I used this lens on my a6500. I m just wondering do you have the same issue? As I actually never hear other youtubers mention abt this issue at all.
Can I use this lens on Canon M50 Mark ii?
Hey Mr Pipu, I don't think Samyang make a native version for Canon mount, but if you use an adapter it should be possible to make it work:)
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Is this lens the same as the Rokinon 12mm f2 AF lens? They look exactly the same to me
Did you bump up the shutter speed to work with catalyst browse?
As a Fuji shooter where the system is plagued with a lack of good, budget, wide angle options... I'm probably definitely picking the 12mm for sure.
Mostly just as a glorified selfie cam with my girlfriend. Btw, is the ZV-E10 any good for casual photos?
Firstly, fantastic name. I like potatoes but their general lack of professionalism is the one lingering issue;) 😂
And yeah, the zv-e10 is essentially the same photo camera as the other recent sont crop releases: a64/61/6600. Lack of viewfinder but slightly newer and slicker autofocus are the only significant differences. So should be more than powerful enough for casual photos or more:)
Hope that helps!
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Is it better than sigma 16mm
Nice & Thanks :)
HI, may I know if eye-AF works with this lens?
i just saw this on samyang youtube channel, didnt make it very easy to find your channel.
Hey TS, great to hear from you:) Yeah they reached out to me last week - pretty cool for a decent size lens maker to connect with a crappy small channel 😂
It looks like I’m linked in the description but I might go drop a comment too to be a bit more visible - thanks for highlighting!
Awesome video..decided to buy one after watching yr video...i see no reason not to subscribe now...
That’s awesome B BOOn (great name btw 😂), great to have you on board and really appreciate the nice feedback 👍👏
5:09 Genius joke!😂😂😂
😂 Glad you liked it Claudio and really appreciate the nice feedback 😁
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@@dbvares8745 yes just subscribed mate! Looking forward to watching your new uploads 😉
How about sigma 16mm in comparison to this ??
Hey TLJ, just spotted your previous comment. I’d say the sigma is better for low light and bokeh; the samyang is better for width of view and lightness. Hope that helps!
The lens looked good and wide. Wasn't all distorted on the edges either.
Hey FWTB, legend that you are:) I was pleasantly surprised too. Apart from the low light AF issues this lens did a really solid job and I think I’ll be getting plenty more use from it:)
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Sony ignored Linux users. I use 2 editing packages, both Linux --- no Windows or Mac and no Catalyst Browse. I have ordered this lens, but we are locked down in Saigon ..might be a while before I get it. Good Show -- Cheers
Hey TextPat, great to hear from you again. And frustrating on the Linux front, I’m sorry to hear because catalyst is one of Sony’s big selling points for me right now - I’d be really irritated in your shoes! 😂
Hopefully your lens won’t take too long to arrive though- I was pleasantly surprised by how good it is after doing my testing:)
There is no such things as perfect balls, the quest to attain perfection is like chasing the dragon or bokehmon in this case
Wise words ZPP, both in bokeh and in life;)
Love your voice
Haha thank you 😊 It sounds annoying to me so I’m glad it’s better for you 😂
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Thinking of getting rid of this lens, having regrets on selling my sony 10-18mm for this one, autofocus perfomance is terrible my viltrox 23mm and sigma 16mm performs way better, if only the autofocus performance is on par with the viltrox and sigma i'll be happy with this lens, also flaring is bad
Hey Shane, sorry to hear about the issues! Are you shooting in good light? Mine struggled with autofocus in low light but did a pretty flawless job on good light. If you’re having issues when we’ll lit I wonder okd you might have a defective unit
@@dbvares8745 It was terrible in lowlight keeps on focusing on the background, in goodlight the af is not very smooth sort of creeps into focus with lots of hesitation but was able to get better results when I switched the af tracking sensitivity to high
Im guessing it also has something to do with the camera im using since im using it with the old a6300 but I never had this issue with the viltrox and sigma lenses that I have
Hey Shane, sorry to hear that - sounds legit frustrating! I think you light be right about the AF in the a6300 being part of the difference-that’s 2-3 generations of refinement behind the zv-e10 I tested with and the camera might be carrying some extra weight and doing the lens a favour. Either way I hope you can either find a fix or an option that works better for you 🤞
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Samyang has a reputation for flaky AF across their range of AF lenses. Not surprising since they are so new to making AF lenses. However, at the 12mm length I would prefer to go full MF with Laowa, or… as is actually on my shopping list… choose the Zeiss Touit 12mm f2.8. Due to the Zeiss/Sony lens partnership there is more sharing of lens tech between the two company’s compared to other third parties. My Zeiss Batis and Sony/Zeiss lenses, like the 55mm f1.8 all AF without any of the Samyang issues, so I have high hopes that the little Touit may be a good match for the ZV-E10. The Touit seems to fly under the radar in recent times, but I would love to see someone putting it up against this Samyang in a comparison review some day.
Hey Artistjoh, awesome insights as ever:) And good shout on the Touit stuff; in the uk at least they seem both under the radar and a bit rare - I’ve hardly seen them when looking across all available lenses with the larger retailers. Now my curiosity is truly piqued 😂
I quite like MF for b roll but I do like the comfort blanket of af for vlogging and subject tracking so it remains a nice incremental addition for me:)
Hopefully if the channel can grow I’ll have more funds and opportunities to try lenses - so many I’d like to test but at the moment it’s limited to things I think I’m likely to keep and can justify the price of 😂
Hope you’re doing well and having a great weekend 👏
@@dbvares8745 Cheers from Sydney. If the ZV-E10 plus Touit 12 passes my wife’s very critical eye I may have one around the end of the month. If so I will let you know about my experience with it.
I have this combo. Liked and subscribed but your humour needs work....:) j/k
GG, thanks so much and welcome on board. Fully agree on the humour - these videos are just like very public therapy sessions to try and slowly improve it;)
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You are indeed number 1 Tora:) I’ve been appreciating your support since the channel was about 99% smaller so always great to hear from you:)
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