Zwinkle my friend, I'm still toying with lightsmith and this is what I've found so far: - Holy Bulwark combines with Blessing of Sac beautifully. As you also gain a bulwark, you soak the sac damage automatically. - Sacred Weapons proc for around 150k healing on all allies, and something like 2-4 times during it's buff duration of 20 seconds per sacred weapon. - There is a lightsmith talent that increases your crusader strike damage (and healing!) by 20%. Don't sleep on this. With melee wings thats 50% extra damage and because 420% of that damage is converted to healing, plus an additional 20% healing on that, I've rolled around 1.5m critting heals with a single (!) crusader strike. I have made a couple screenshots of it somewhere. - People all over the net are saying lightsmith aoe healing and such is weaker. It's definitely not. Because of how weapons work, it's just way more random and more pro-active source of healing, which makes the spec feel very clunky. You need to keep smashing buttons, keep spending infusions for the cooldown reduction which prioritizes using your holy power even. Nevertheless, I think lightsmith is definitly underutilized and undervalued and worth to be tested for M+ where it can shine. - 1 minute wings is just nuts, especially because your spenders gets replicated and do double healing, and your generators heal for tons and tons. Stay gamin!
Lavaburst my man! It's funny you said all this as I'm currently enjoying some Lightsmith hpal at the moment. The damage it puts out is really nice. I don't think it's fully an issue of it being "weaker" (although the healing logs through my beta testing did put it behind suns herald still a bit) but more so of an issue of it being randomized. Which I feel is in turn the same issue with melee wings. If it was so overpowered that it didn't matter like we saw a while back it wouldn't matter but I feel like you're losing a lot of power, especially during wings for rather random healing. That being said I'm playing around with it. I am curious if we'd revert to spending double infusion procs for it now though for the CDR? That is a playstyle I would love to leave behind in Dragonflight tbh but even just playing the standard rotation it seems to do fine. See you soon lad! Can't wait for Mythic+ and Raid next week!
@@ZwinkleTV Yeah how i'm playing at the moment is going into flash of light 50% extra on beacon, because infusion also gives fol a 50% extra healing, every time i gain infusion and have wings downtime I just pop virtue, cast fol, and after that immediately judge to spend two, then shock to fish for more procs (or if more healing is needed, word of glory). Fol heals for about 400k this way non-crit. Which isnt great but isnt bad either, and you get your cooldown reduction and a holy power. I also dont use venedration because I really spend time to consume all my infusion of light procs I have no time for throwing hammers. During melee wings I just crusader strike, spender (double healing on the spender because of bottom talent, and 20% crusader strike damage buff setup), judgment, crusader strike (reduces cooldown of judge), spender, judge, crusader strike, repeat. (and shock during downtimes.) Nothing dies.
@@sympathism Update- I'm actually getting a ton of healing off of Lightsmith and the damage is also a bit higher. I do think it makes wings feel less impactful and it really doesn't do much in the sense of aoe healing but as far as overall throughput just between the tank and squishy dps its cranking a ton of heals. I kind of hope it somehow gets a slight buff up in the healing department which it might if everyone is just playing Herald talents.
@@ZwinkleTV Yeah its great! I've been enjoying lightsmith alot atm. For avenging wrath, You could still try for avenging crusader. Works really well with the crusader strike 20% damage/healing talent from lightsmwith. Got a 2.1m crit crusader strike heal yesterday :) Also sunwell infusion boosts healing of holy light by 150% (wtf). So my go-to instant groupheal now is prism for divine favor, beacon of virtue, holy light with infusion up. Insane healing. Have a great day dude
@@ZwinkleTV what makes the randomized healing of HP so much worse than the randomized healing of say a mist Weaver during chiji? I haven’t really heard much of any negative comments about ChiJi or fistweaving?
Yeah, while a lot of our talents are really close throughput wise I just found in my testing it did the most consistently while just keeping up with the natural flow and rotation. You could maybe take inflo if you take Moment of Compassion but I haven’t found a need for casting a ton. Mostly just holy light divine favor/infusion of light procs. Empyrean Legacy is also okay but I feel the free lod’s feel less impactful than hammer.
My HOJ is ST and my crusader strike is my first mouse button. My keybinds have just been the same for a long time so I’m used to it but use whatever is comfy! Also thank you, I’ve had so many people ask that recently so I have to ask just like a general setup guide? Also if you want a direct download to my Elvui profile you can go to my twitch page linked in my bio and type in the chat !ui and it will give you a direct download!
@@brownfrosty3871 elvui but I’ve just grown accustomed to it over time I wouldn’t necessarily recommend it over some other options. But it gets the job done lol
@@vyncification enemy for aoe healing or you can use it on an ally for spot healing, in most every situation it’ll be on the enemy unless you need spot healing and don’t have holy shock or eternal flame available
@@Devonwilliams-zd1kc It’s a custom Elvui profile so you will need that for it to work. But if you go to my twitch which is linked in my bio and type “!ui” in the chat it will give you a direct download which you can import into Elvui.
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I haven’t played Holy Paladin in a really long time. This is a very tutorial. Thanks for taking the time!
Thank you for this amazing guide
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I thought it was just me!
Great guide. Thanks
Zwinkle my friend, I'm still toying with lightsmith and this is what I've found so far:
- Holy Bulwark combines with Blessing of Sac beautifully. As you also gain a bulwark, you soak the sac damage automatically.
- Sacred Weapons proc for around 150k healing on all allies, and something like 2-4 times during it's buff duration of 20 seconds per sacred weapon.
- There is a lightsmith talent that increases your crusader strike damage (and healing!) by 20%. Don't sleep on this. With melee wings thats 50% extra damage and because 420% of that damage is converted to healing, plus an additional 20% healing on that, I've rolled around 1.5m critting heals with a single (!) crusader strike. I have made a couple screenshots of it somewhere.
- People all over the net are saying lightsmith aoe healing and such is weaker. It's definitely not. Because of how weapons work, it's just way more random and more pro-active source of healing, which makes the spec feel very clunky. You need to keep smashing buttons, keep spending infusions for the cooldown reduction which prioritizes using your holy power even. Nevertheless, I think lightsmith is definitly underutilized and undervalued and worth to be tested for M+ where it can shine.
- 1 minute wings is just nuts, especially because your spenders gets replicated and do double healing, and your generators heal for tons and tons.
Stay gamin!
Lavaburst my man! It's funny you said all this as I'm currently enjoying some Lightsmith hpal at the moment. The damage it puts out is really nice. I don't think it's fully an issue of it being "weaker" (although the healing logs through my beta testing did put it behind suns herald still a bit) but more so of an issue of it being randomized. Which I feel is in turn the same issue with melee wings. If it was so overpowered that it didn't matter like we saw a while back it wouldn't matter but I feel like you're losing a lot of power, especially during wings for rather random healing. That being said I'm playing around with it. I am curious if we'd revert to spending double infusion procs for it now though for the CDR? That is a playstyle I would love to leave behind in Dragonflight tbh but even just playing the standard rotation it seems to do fine. See you soon lad! Can't wait for Mythic+ and Raid next week!
@@ZwinkleTV Yeah how i'm playing at the moment is going into flash of light 50% extra on beacon, because infusion also gives fol a 50% extra healing, every time i gain infusion and have wings downtime I just pop virtue, cast fol, and after that immediately judge to spend two, then shock to fish for more procs (or if more healing is needed, word of glory). Fol heals for about 400k this way non-crit. Which isnt great but isnt bad either, and you get your cooldown reduction and a holy power.
I also dont use venedration because I really spend time to consume all my infusion of light procs I have no time for throwing hammers.
During melee wings I just crusader strike, spender (double healing on the spender because of bottom talent, and 20% crusader strike damage buff setup), judgment, crusader strike (reduces cooldown of judge), spender, judge, crusader strike, repeat. (and shock during downtimes.) Nothing dies.
@@sympathism Update- I'm actually getting a ton of healing off of Lightsmith and the damage is also a bit higher. I do think it makes wings feel less impactful and it really doesn't do much in the sense of aoe healing but as far as overall throughput just between the tank and squishy dps its cranking a ton of heals. I kind of hope it somehow gets a slight buff up in the healing department which it might if everyone is just playing Herald talents.
@@ZwinkleTV Yeah its great! I've been enjoying lightsmith alot atm.
For avenging wrath, You could still try for avenging crusader. Works really well with the crusader strike 20% damage/healing talent from lightsmwith. Got a 2.1m crit crusader strike heal yesterday :)
Also sunwell infusion boosts healing of holy light by 150% (wtf). So my go-to instant groupheal now is prism for divine favor, beacon of virtue, holy light with infusion up. Insane healing.
Have a great day dude
@@ZwinkleTV what makes the randomized healing of HP so much worse than the randomized healing of say a mist Weaver during chiji? I haven’t really heard much of any negative comments about ChiJi or fistweaving?
Thanks for the justification on why we don't use inflorescence of sunwell, i've been goin back and forth on that with veneration and was indecisive.
Yeah, while a lot of our talents are really close throughput wise I just found in my testing it did the most consistently while just keeping up with the natural flow and rotation. You could maybe take inflo if you take Moment of Compassion but I haven’t found a need for casting a ton. Mostly just holy light divine favor/infusion of light procs. Empyrean Legacy is also okay but I feel the free lod’s feel less impactful than hammer.
@@ZwinkleTV can i ask glorious dawn can proc of the divine toll's holy shocks? or only works with own standard holy shock?
@@leoncloud6683 it should proc off of any “holy shock”
You should consier doing an UI clip, it looks neat and cool. Would be super helpful for newbies - like me.
Hey your hammer of justice is under what key ? :D 5M5 what is it same for crusader M5?
My HOJ is ST and my crusader strike is my first mouse button. My keybinds have just been the same for a long time so I’m used to it but use whatever is comfy! Also thank you, I’ve had so many people ask that recently so I have to ask just like a general setup guide? Also if you want a direct download to my Elvui profile you can go to my twitch page linked in my bio and type in the chat !ui and it will give you a direct download!
What party frames are you using?
@@brownfrosty3871 elvui but I’ve just grown accustomed to it over time I wouldn’t necessarily recommend it over some other options. But it gets the job done lol
Do i cast holy prism on the enemy or on my group mates?
@@vyncification enemy for aoe healing or you can use it on an ally for spot healing, in most every situation it’ll be on the enemy unless you need spot healing and don’t have holy shock or eternal flame available
Where can I find your UI setup it’s really clean
@@Devonwilliams-zd1kc It’s a custom Elvui profile so you will need that for it to work. But if you go to my twitch which is linked in my bio and type “!ui” in the chat it will give you a direct download which you can import into Elvui.
@@ZwinkleTV yoinked it as I’m reading this I figured it was there lol ty
Are you wearing makeup?
No but I appreciate your constructive comment and am glad that’s what you got from the guide!
Consecration. Not Consencration. Therefore it doesn't say consencrate. Good video - but I just had to get that off my chest, it's driving me crazy.
You aren’t wrong 😂😅
@@ZwinkleTVI understood what you meant.