I was hard stuck at 2.1k io swapping between enhance and elemental. Said screw it swapped to resto. Watched this video probably three times. Last night I hit 2.5k and have half of all the dungeons timed at a 10 the rest are at 9s!!!!! Thank you for the great guide man this video helped me a ton. I think I am a resto main now.
@@Whistopher96 I cannot tell you in words how genuinely happy that made me to read. THANK YOU for watching and letting me know it actually was helpful to you. Stoked to hear we might have a new resto in our midsts! Welcome to the team and thanks again for the kind words 😎
@@ZwinkleTV little update, I was able to time Mists, SV and GB last night on 10s! All I have left now to do is City of threads. Thanks again man!!! Can you recommend any weakauras? I looked at WoW heads guide for weak aura but I’m not a huge fan of the big blocky ones that like completely overtake your UI
@ I definitely can, give me a bit to get back around my pc. I will say I take out and customize a lot of the WA’s I do have so I only have certain things tracked and I size down the icons a lot of time. I can always let you know how to do that as well if you run into trouble. A big one I would start with is the Luxthros shaman pack and customize it out. Omnicd the addon is also very helpful
First ten minutes I was thinking, why is he just repeating the obvious...and then you really took off! Great vid, good structure and practical tips. Thanks!
going into new pulls with 2 lava burst stacks for a boosted healing surge applying 2 flame shocks helps alot. you get 2 free flame shocks + cast your own, now you have 3 flame shocks proccing lava bursts, which then procs more flame shocks through surge healing. This is slightly less dps than chain lightning spam, but it massively increases healing output since your surges will hit like a truck and will be able to heal 2-3 people each cast including procs and talents, and the rotation fuels itself.
Great guide! I’m new to resto shammy and this really helped. There’s lots of abilities so the learning curve feels high, but it will just take some practice. Thanks again 😎
This is awesome. I've only been playing Farseer (into 11s) but wanting to try Totemic in keys. Great video and interesting tips - maybe I can stop avoiding city of threads on anything higher than a 9
From my understanding/logs no because there is a travel time for your meatball. If you were able to get it just not consistently then it could be either a haste issue or issue of your target simply being too close. Although I would like to point out the main point of that section simply to be weaving in spells instead of hard casting things like your procs. Let me know if you get different results?
Also I did some fact checking and it looks like it was changed after bfa too so that you could guarantee a critical strike if you cast flame shock after the burst. I’ll take a peek at logs later when I’m home to confirm.
I'm pretty sure that's just built into the game if I'm not mistaken. If I am then it has to be part of my Elvui but I'm almost positive, it's a base game thing.
I've been trying out farseer in 11s / 12s and the chainheal / coalescing water build is really great, I play cloudburst and even tho it requires a lot of min maxing, it feels much more rewarding than totemic. Also, I'm never oom, and totemic mana management in higher keys is brutal, especially in pugs
How do you have defensive CDs go vertical on the bars? My party’s defensive CDs are horizontal and look awful on my horizontal party bar, and I’ve had to make my party frames vertical for that reason
thats OmniCD. 1.In chat type /omnicd an addon through Curseforge 2. Go to Dungeons on the left. 3. Go to "Position" second tab in dungeons 4. Look for Layout in the Position tab. 5. Select layout through the drop down menu(mine is double column)
@ZwinkleTV any tips for Skarmorak in SV, is it okay to grab more than 2 orb/crystals at a time to help heal the crazy AoE damage. Trying to do +12 and it's manic
@@Vortexrc1993 is it the shield specifically you’re having an issue healing? To be honest I only grab 2 orbs right before the shield to heal it BUT my dps are soaking more orbs depending on who’s cd, or if you have a dk they can take something like 6 for each set and pop cds. That shield hits very hard and it’s going to mostly come down to your dps breaking it, anything over 6-10 seconds is really not ideal. And as far as just cds I try and hold pretty much all of them outside of healing tide for that shield, I will ascendance one with some HS totems and I’ll have link and HS totems for the other. Usually I use recall if I have it on the link phase for an extra totem.
@ZwinkleTV Thanks for the reply, yeah the shield, I tend to grab the orbs a bit earlier, maybe I should hold off a bit. The shield phase in the groups I've been in has been longer than 6-10 seconds so that isn't helping either I guess
@ yeah I tend you avoid orbs before shield if I can help it and then snag 2 before the shield phase. It trucks man but you’ll get it. A lot of pugging is just finding 4 other people who all know what they need to do.
@@gmacklit09 as in the guide? Sorry it was a bit late; this is just something I do for fun to try and help other m+ pushers mostly. Unfortunately I still have a full schedule outside this so I do what I can! Hopefully it helped!
Cool guide, farseer is actually busted after the patch though. Coalescing Water is straight up broken and makes high keys a bit of a joke. Yes totemic is easier and still great but I feel like CW/Farseer might be the way to go if you’re trying to push.
Awesome take. I’ve heard it’s great since patch. That being said a little over 95% of all shammy keys are totemic and the top keys in the world timed this week are the same as well. But I’d love to see it make its way into the meta. But tbh I see disc priest going meta before that their buffs really fixed their healing gaps for keys
@@ZwinkleTVyou’re definitely a better player than I am since I’m only just timing 10s but I was thirsty to get better at Farseer and here’s my 2 cents. I struggled with it until about 12 or 13% haste. Then I was still having some burst AOE issues until I personalized my BigWigs and started holding ancestors for some damage moments and using certain spells to force them to chain heal. Before you were only really spot healing with Healing Surge and didn’t want to use that in an AOE window but now that Coalescing Water exists you could be in the middle of a burst AOE rotation in a high damage moment and quick hit the lowest person with a FAT Riptide and then go back to AOE heals. Optimizations plus the new talent makes it feel super flexible and powerful. I believe the only thing keeping Totemic ahead right now are the egregious known bugs with Reactivity and Spouting Spirits. Reactivity is 2x stronger than the tooltip, and Spouting Spirits talent causes a second free Lively Totems buffed Chain Heal to cast rather than 1 and does not reduce healing beyond 5 targets, which matters more in raid but still.
Unless I’m misunderstanding, I don’t think the totemic side of the guide is super accurate. You recommend to spam chain heals but if you mean spam hard cast chain heals, then you’re going to oom fast. The key to playing totemic is taking advantage of lively totems giving you free chain heals, using your cooldown reset for healing stream / CB totem, and using spells like wellspring, unleash life, primordial wave, natures swiftness, and spot healing to heal your team. A lot of what you said is correct but the part about spamming chain heals is either misleading or misguided. Great video otherwise.
@@shamanimalist I appreciate your input. That being said no one said to spam chain heal exclusively as your only way of healing and we did go over the importance of using your lively totems and cds before resorting to casting healing in general. We also don’t take any of those talents outside natures swiftness for keys playing totemic. Thanks for the take though I’ll see what I can improve for next time!
@ thanks for responding. There is a certain point in the video where you specifically say that and it felt misleading considering everything else you were saying. I hope that makes sense. Looking forward to more videos.
@@shamanimalist I understand where you're coming from. I think if that section had come after it would be clearer. I appreciate you again though, definitely helps me for future videos
@Omar-Alsaif just going to be honest, that is a terrible mentality and you are just making it harder for your group. Outside of the fact that you would literally just be sitting there doing nothing for half of the key you’re also making it slower. But you absolutely can just hit healing buttons if that’s really what you want to do. Don’t think that’s ever been debated, just frowned upon.
You should be at least buffing your healing surges with lava burst lol but I do agree in a lot of groups it’s a risk to spend a GCD on a DPS spell if people aren’t topped
@@johndoee4964 I agree shaman is one of the easier healers. Unfortunately healer difficulty doesn’t change key difficulty when you’re pushing 13-14+. Cd usage and using your toolkit properly usually wins that.
I was hard stuck at 2.1k io swapping between enhance and elemental. Said screw it swapped to resto. Watched this video probably three times. Last night I hit 2.5k and have half of all the dungeons timed at a 10 the rest are at 9s!!!!!
Thank you for the great guide man this video helped me a ton. I think I am a resto main now.
@@Whistopher96 I cannot tell you in words how genuinely happy that made me to read. THANK YOU for watching and letting me know it actually was helpful to you. Stoked to hear we might have a new resto in our midsts! Welcome to the team and thanks again for the kind words 😎
@ cheers man!
@@ZwinkleTV little update, I was able to time Mists, SV and GB last night on 10s! All I have left now to do is City of threads. Thanks again man!!!
Can you recommend any weakauras? I looked at WoW heads guide for weak aura but I’m not a huge fan of the big blocky ones that like completely overtake your UI
@ I definitely can, give me a bit to get back around my pc. I will say I take out and customize a lot of the WA’s I do have so I only have certain things tracked and I size down the icons a lot of time. I can always let you know how to do that as well if you run into trouble. A big one I would start with is the Luxthros shaman pack and customize it out. Omnicd the addon is also very helpful
@@ZwinkleTV dope thanks man no rush! Still at work
First ten minutes I was thinking, why is he just repeating the obvious...and then you really took off! Great vid, good structure and practical tips. Thanks!
Great video, the last part helped me a lot!
going into new pulls with 2 lava burst stacks for a boosted healing surge applying 2 flame shocks helps alot. you get 2 free flame shocks + cast your own, now you have 3 flame shocks proccing lava bursts, which then procs more flame shocks through surge healing.
This is slightly less dps than chain lightning spam, but it massively increases healing output since your surges will hit like a truck and will be able to heal 2-3 people each cast including procs and talents, and the rotation fuels itself.
Great guide! I’m new to resto shammy and this really helped. There’s lots of abilities so the learning curve feels high, but it will just take some practice. Thanks again 😎
Great guide, very well presented, thanks!
This is awesome. I've only been playing Farseer (into 11s) but wanting to try Totemic in keys. Great video and interesting tips - maybe I can stop avoiding city of threads on anything higher than a 9
Great guide. Love it if you’d put together a keys videos and how to go about healing each one.
fun fact on 20:28 he says Court of Stars instead City of Threads
my bad LOL to many years of wow, to many same acronyms xD
Court of Stars hehe
Lol bro having flashbacks
the times are messed up i click on totemic talents section and it goes straight to the other build
I appreciate you, it’s been adjusted.
Isn't the damage calculation at the end of cast instead of when it hits? I couldn't reliably replicate the flame shock after casting meatball
From my understanding/logs no because there is a travel time for your meatball. If you were able to get it just not consistently then it could be either a haste issue or issue of your target simply being too close. Although I would like to point out the main point of that section simply to be weaving in spells instead of hard casting things like your procs. Let me know if you get different results?
Also I did some fact checking and it looks like it was changed after bfa too so that you could guarantee a critical strike if you cast flame shock after the burst. I’ll take a peek at logs later when I’m home to confirm.
Thanks for the tips. What is the easiest Dungeon to heal in?
In my opinion mists is the easiest to heal
How do you get your procs to show up next to your guy like that?
I'm pretty sure that's just built into the game if I'm not mistaken. If I am then it has to be part of my Elvui but I'm almost positive, it's a base game thing.
I've been trying out farseer in 11s / 12s and the chainheal / coalescing water build is really great, I play cloudburst and even tho it requires a lot of min maxing, it feels much more rewarding than totemic. Also, I'm never oom, and totemic mana management in higher keys is brutal, especially in pugs
How do you have defensive CDs go vertical on the bars? My party’s defensive CDs are horizontal and look awful on my horizontal party bar, and I’ve had to make my party frames vertical for that reason
thats OmniCD.
1.In chat type /omnicd an addon through Curseforge
2. Go to Dungeons on the left.
3. Go to "Position" second tab in dungeons
4. Look for Layout in the Position tab.
5. Select layout through the drop down menu(mine is double column)
@ thank you!!
@ZwinkleTV any tips for Skarmorak in SV, is it okay to grab more than 2 orb/crystals at a time to help heal the crazy AoE damage. Trying to do +12 and it's manic
@@Vortexrc1993 is it the shield specifically you’re having an issue healing? To be honest I only grab 2 orbs right before the shield to heal it BUT my dps are soaking more orbs depending on who’s cd, or if you have a dk they can take something like 6 for each set and pop cds. That shield hits very hard and it’s going to mostly come down to your dps breaking it, anything over 6-10 seconds is really not ideal. And as far as just cds I try and hold pretty much all of them outside of healing tide for that shield, I will ascendance one with some HS totems and I’ll have link and HS totems for the other. Usually I use recall if I have it on the link phase for an extra totem.
@ZwinkleTV Thanks for the reply, yeah the shield, I tend to grab the orbs a bit earlier, maybe I should hold off a bit. The shield phase in the groups I've been in has been longer than 6-10 seconds so that isn't helping either I guess
@ yeah I tend you avoid orbs before shield if I can help it and then snag 2 before the shield phase. It trucks man but you’ll get it. A lot of pugging is just finding 4 other people who all know what they need to do.
Good vid
Was this not released with the 11.0.5 updates even tho they are live
@@gmacklit09 as in the guide? Sorry it was a bit late; this is just something I do for fun to try and help other m+ pushers mostly. Unfortunately I still have a full schedule outside this so I do what I can! Hopefully it helped!
Yeah, the flameshock references, also got me confused. 😂
@stay9cool how so? I’d love to know how I can improve to help get the information across as clear as possible.
Cool guide, farseer is actually busted after the patch though. Coalescing Water is straight up broken and makes high keys a bit of a joke. Yes totemic is easier and still great but I feel like CW/Farseer might be the way to go if you’re trying to push.
Awesome take. I’ve heard it’s great since patch. That being said a little over 95% of all shammy keys are totemic and the top keys in the world timed this week are the same as well. But I’d love to see it make its way into the meta. But tbh I see disc priest going meta before that their buffs really fixed their healing gaps for keys
@@ZwinkleTVyou’re definitely a better player than I am since I’m only just timing 10s but I was thirsty to get better at Farseer and here’s my 2 cents. I struggled with it until about 12 or 13% haste. Then I was still having some burst AOE issues until I personalized my BigWigs and started holding ancestors for some damage moments and using certain spells to force them to chain heal. Before you were only really spot healing with Healing Surge and didn’t want to use that in an AOE window but now that Coalescing Water exists you could be in the middle of a burst AOE rotation in a high damage moment and quick hit the lowest person with a FAT Riptide and then go back to AOE heals. Optimizations plus the new talent makes it feel super flexible and powerful.
I believe the only thing keeping Totemic ahead right now are the egregious known bugs with Reactivity and Spouting Spirits. Reactivity is 2x stronger than the tooltip, and Spouting Spirits talent causes a second free Lively Totems buffed Chain Heal to cast rather than 1 and does not reduce healing beyond 5 targets, which matters more in raid but still.
most good players wont be hard casting chain heal because you'll just run out of mana.
Everyone complaining about mana and being hard.
Try playing the worst healer in the game "Holy priest"
that's what I play. And it's tough!!
@@DaveTheeMan-wj2nk you sir, are a brave soul! lol
Court of stars look a lot like city of threads 😂😂😂
My b 😂😅
Unless I’m misunderstanding, I don’t think the totemic side of the guide is super accurate. You recommend to spam chain heals but if you mean spam hard cast chain heals, then you’re going to oom fast. The key to playing totemic is taking advantage of lively totems giving you free chain heals, using your cooldown reset for healing stream / CB totem, and using spells like wellspring, unleash life, primordial wave, natures swiftness, and spot healing to heal your team. A lot of what you said is correct but the part about spamming chain heals is either misleading or misguided. Great video otherwise.
@@shamanimalist I appreciate your input. That being said no one said to spam chain heal exclusively as your only way of healing and we did go over the importance of using your lively totems and cds before resorting to casting healing in general. We also don’t take any of those talents outside natures swiftness for keys playing totemic. Thanks for the take though I’ll see what I can improve for next time!
@ thanks for responding. There is a certain point in the video where you specifically say that and it felt misleading considering everything else you were saying. I hope that makes sense. Looking forward to more videos.
@@shamanimalist I understand where you're coming from. I think if that section had come after it would be clearer. I appreciate you again though, definitely helps me for future videos
As a healer, it's not important to dps now , I have done couple of 14 and 15 keys and never used a single dmg cast , not even flame shock
@Omar-Alsaif just going to be honest, that is a terrible mentality and you are just making it harder for your group. Outside of the fact that you would literally just be sitting there doing nothing for half of the key you’re also making it slower. But you absolutely can just hit healing buttons if that’s really what you want to do. Don’t think that’s ever been debated, just frowned upon.
could at least flameshock to get insta meatballs that can buff your heals
Cap😂
you’re either lying or getting boosted ngl how tf are you surging without meatball casts ?
You should be at least buffing your healing surges with lava burst lol but I do agree in a lot of groups it’s a risk to spend a GCD on a DPS spell if people aren’t topped
This shit is funny. Shaman is such a joke class to play.
@@johndoee4964 I agree shaman is one of the easier healers. Unfortunately healer difficulty doesn’t change key difficulty when you’re pushing 13-14+. Cd usage and using your toolkit properly usually wins that.