I started to play this game in Shadowlands and chose hpal as my main. Having someone like you to learn from is a cheat code for this spec and made my life so much easier. Lots of love and appreciation!!
What a succinct guide, thank you for this. A lot of videos end up being word salads; this one is straight to the point. Very useful for me as I dust of my holy pal that I have not played since vanilla launch.
Your website is amazing and I love your UA-cam content as well. I’m Maining HPal for the first time in Retail in S1, so will be a regular consumer of your content no doubt!
Thank you very much for this quality video guide with a very well designed site. Your advice will help me a lot to progress and have fun in the game. Thanks again!!
My master, the legend... THANKS A LOT for this video! It explains everything a hpala needs to know!!! (just a stilly question here: how to do damage with hpala?)
Tempted to play HPal again since I left it behind after SL (I didn't like to be dependent to Glimmer that much), now after seeing your video (like I always did when I used to play HPal), I'm convinced again :) thanks as always for the content and the detailed explanations and feedbacks, you are and always will be my go to expert for Pally!!! Keep it up!
Ellesmere thank you time and time again for being the go to resource for hpal guides. Vacation led me to not be able to get started on TWW till tonight but I can't wait to get in there and play. I'll be sending you a sub and donation for all your hard work tonight if you're on twitch.
1) Veneration vs Inflorescence - I would think the extra IoLs would be a big deal for how often we throw Judgment, plus the CD reduction on HS. And HoW is so low on our spell priority. For M+, can you help me understand your decision here? 2) Prism vs Barrier - I've found throwing a barrier on the tank and then DTing the group, plus machine gun HSs is pretty solid in saving a group, and getting a solid shield on the tank. Prism just feels so week to me. Maybe I'm doing something wrong here? I was surprised to see your choice where for M+, and would love to understand your decision more. Thank you again for your thorough and selfless efforts to be a pillar of the HPal community! You da man!
Just a note on Light of the Martyr talent, if you plan on creating a new char and then dungeon levelling from 1-80 again (as I did so I could learn the class). Then your healing absorb from Light of the Martyr will almost always be your entire health pool if you are healing higher level party members in dungeon. E.g. if you are level 30 and your tank is level 50, your holy shock will heal them for a massive amount as a result of the scaling, meaning you will then get 30% of the amount healed after scaling and not 30% of what the healing would do to a character the same level as you. In my opinion, I would skip this talent until you are much higher level so you don't end up with a 10k absorb on yourself when you have a 3k health pool.
wonderfull guide it is even wonderfull because i will main Hpal this expansion, it is sharp concise and complete at the same time, astonishing, we all love you !!! I have a question for you ELLESMERE: what do you think of the passive Unending Light for raid purpose that talent give us the possibility to cast monster single target spender as word of glory????? or did someone try it here? ( sorry if my english seem awkward, i am french)
Great video thanks for the upload. If I am aiming for title range do you think hpal is a good pick? I am experienced with hpal but not so much with evoker and shaman. Would you say that the upperhand of those are big enough to justify learning a new spec or hpal is good enough?
I mained a resto shaman for a few years now. Wanted to give Hpal a try. Raided last night and it just felt so clunky. I heard recently that light of the martyr shouldn't be taken anymore, but I'm not sure. It felt a little better when I had it. Thoughts on this?
holy paladin looked great but the many nerfs too it kinda took me off it, is it still worth considering even after the nerfs and if lightsmith has to be playled in very high keys ?
I raided last night on normal.. my goodness i was behind every healer for the most aprt. Was a 25 man sized raid group. Thoughts? Am i playing it wrong?
Righteous Judgment Consecrate doesn't replace your personal consecrate, it's additional (so you can have your own consecrate down + the righteous judgment proc'd consecate)
Question about blessing of summer: should we use it on CD nomatter the situation or actually hold when we get to the damage one for a good pack or boss?
Everyone is saying Mastery to be priority stat with the new Beacon of the Lightbringer Talent? Is it Crit or Mastry? And is the stats priority the same for PvP?
Am I missing something with herald? I played Hpal after getting my Hpriest to 585 and hearld just feels really weak to me. My holy bulwark from light smith is doing 60-90 million healing a dungeon by just putting it on the tank and sacred weapon is doing about 30 million damage for me. I get on hearld and I feel like the damage just feels clunkier to me not sure why.
I could also be spoiled from holy priest. I get on my full plate battle healer paladin and I hit for like 200ks meanwhile my hpriest is using holy fire for 800k on a mob while cleaving for 300-400k and it makes me sad.
@@Devonwilliams-zd1kc yea its like holy pal = blow my cds perfectly the entire dungeon do no damage. Holy priest just Holy fire the entire dungeon nothing else and im parsing haha.
Nice vid, and I agree with most of what you say, you have vast more exp then me as well as reps. I think you mis spoke saying at the end of your video that holy shock is the best its ever been damage wise...(healing wise yes most likely but damage wise??) did you mean to say this? the mana use for using HS offensively is criminal and should be very low if not free like some other healing classes, and if its going to cost us that much mana the damage needs to be amped up alot like x2. With the removal of glimmer of light we actually lost dmg output of HS offensively and all our talents with the exception of reclamation dont buff our HS damage output, they should but they dont. so I disagree with you on this point, if they changed all talents that help/buff HS healing to buff damage to it would help a lot. you cant argue the damage output vs mana cost its insane atm. Also they have nerfed Holy light by 28% since beta started and left its mana cost at 160K this is also criminal, it needs to come back to 120k at least, I'm worried that Holy light is now way under powered for its cost, and that if you dont have infusion proc plus divine favour or hand of divinity, its through put is terrible compared to were it was. we dont want a repeat of what Holy light was in DF. cheers
Hey, ı am new to Holy paladin. I cant find word of glory talent. Can someone help me out pls? Ellsmere constantly says word of glory and light of dawn. I know what light of dawn is but ı cant find word glory. I am about to go crazy...
Word of Glory is replaced by Eternal Flame if you have the hero talent Herald of the Sun, so that's probably what you're missing! Any time I reference Word of Glory, just think Eternal Flame instead :)
The legend is back again. Playing a Hpal alt, this was invaluable ❤
Same, finally after years, I'm looking forward to holy pally again.
Played my first healer last xpac as an alt with mistweaver. Think I'm giving hpal a shot this time!
Nothing makes me happier than a content creator for a spec I play drops knowledge on my head
The mere existence of your guides makes hpal more enticing to play. No other spec in the game is so spoiled.
I started to play this game in Shadowlands and chose hpal as my main. Having someone like you to learn from is a cheat code for this spec and made my life so much easier. Lots of love and appreciation!!
What a succinct guide, thank you for this. A lot of videos end up being word salads; this one is straight to the point. Very useful for me as I dust of my holy pal that I have not played since vanilla launch.
I'll be playing Hpal for the first time in TWW, will be following your content for sure!
Thanks for all your hard work preparing us civilians. Wingsisup looks great!
Came here from boklahoma he's got me into trying holy paladin and said you were hands down the best of the best of holy!
Awwww YES! Ellesmere is returning to Holy Paladin and I just confirmed it's my new main for TWW today! Let's go!!!
Who did you confirm it to?
@@timo7287 the media, obviously
@@timo7287 was competing for the last healer spot. I’m not going to main something that I’m not going to be able to play in my raid haha
@@slickftw yeah it wasn’t a story of fear mongering so they didn’t care though T.T
@@DoctorTako You should have added something about Drumpf or Slow Biden
Your website is amazing and I love your UA-cam content as well. I’m Maining HPal for the first time in Retail in S1, so will be a regular consumer of your content no doubt!
Thanks for what you do for the community!!! We are lucky to have you back.
Return of the king. Thank you!
First time going for Holy, im excited! Thank you for this clear explanation
Thank you very much for this quality video guide with a very well designed site. Your advice will help me a lot to progress and have fun in the game. Thanks again!!
This video just cemented my decision to main Hpal after maining resto druid for the past 8 years. Let's goooo!
As a hpal main I'm so hyped for the upcomming expansion. Thanks for saving me some hours on figuring things out myself :D
This is the guide I have been waiting for. Thank goodness!
great guide as always ken. this spec is lucky to have you
Thanks for the guide! Been looking forward to this after reading up on Wings is Up
Great overview. I'm really looking forward to playing HPAL in TWW
My master, the legend... THANKS A LOT for this video! It explains everything a hpala needs to know!!!
(just a stilly question here: how to do damage with hpala?)
Tempted to play HPal again since I left it behind after SL (I didn't like to be dependent to Glimmer that much), now after seeing your video (like I always did when I used to play HPal), I'm convinced again :) thanks as always for the content and the detailed explanations and feedbacks, you are and always will be my go to expert for Pally!!! Keep it up!
Awesome video and website. Ty for all the work
Ellesmere, you do great work for the Hpal community! Keep it up!
Fantastic overview Elle - great to see the new video!
Ellesmere thank you time and time again for being the go to resource for hpal guides. Vacation led me to not be able to get started on TWW till tonight but I can't wait to get in there and play. I'll be sending you a sub and donation for all your hard work tonight if you're on twitch.
Very detailed and informative Guide ♥ ggz mate
1) Veneration vs Inflorescence - I would think the extra IoLs would be a big deal for how often we throw Judgment, plus the CD reduction on HS. And HoW is so low on our spell priority. For M+, can you help me understand your decision here?
2) Prism vs Barrier - I've found throwing a barrier on the tank and then DTing the group, plus machine gun HSs is pretty solid in saving a group, and getting a solid shield on the tank. Prism just feels so week to me. Maybe I'm doing something wrong here? I was surprised to see your choice where for M+, and would love to understand your decision more.
Thank you again for your thorough and selfless efforts to be a pillar of the HPal community! You da man!
I've tested it for over 1 Hour, Divine guidance are being proc on Judgement :) Looking forwards to Arenas ^^
Thank you Elle!
The revamped website is superb. 👌
Elle is hyped on hpal, life is good going into tww 😊
Holy Pal is back baby!!
Thanks a lot Ellesmere!
There was a time when i was unsure about playing hpal in tww. Now i m sure to play. Thx a lot!
Im running Lightsmith right now leveling through, and i have no issues healing and its my top healing ability atm. Il have to check at 80.
Thank you for your work.
Just a note on Light of the Martyr talent, if you plan on creating a new char and then dungeon levelling from 1-80 again (as I did so I could learn the class).
Then your healing absorb from Light of the Martyr will almost always be your entire health pool if you are healing higher level party members in dungeon. E.g. if you are level 30 and your tank is level 50, your holy shock will heal them for a massive amount as a result of the scaling, meaning you will then get 30% of the amount healed after scaling and not 30% of what the healing would do to a character the same level as you.
In my opinion, I would skip this talent until you are much higher level so you don't end up with a 10k absorb on yourself when you have a 3k health pool.
wonderfull guide it is even wonderfull because i will main Hpal this expansion, it is sharp concise and complete at the same time, astonishing, we all love you !!! I have a question for you ELLESMERE: what do you think of the passive Unending Light for raid purpose that talent give us the possibility to cast monster single target spender as word of glory????? or did someone try it here? ( sorry if my english seem awkward, i am french)
The King! Great Job and thx 4 this work :-)
Glad Hpal is viable. One reason to play the spec again, is and was your discord community.
Ily Elle ❤️ Holy Paladin Goat.
Thanks as always for all the work!
Awesome guide!!!!!!!!!
Any opinion about new dwarf allied race???
this is awesome, going to main holy pally and need good youtuber
The King is back!
If you updated videos of you running dungeon content I'd watch it
Wings up babyyyyyyyy thanks always!!
Appreciate your time Elle - enjoy the xpac!
Thank you 🐕
Thumbnail is sick! But was kind of hard to tell it was about WoW at first glance
Spenders are back baby! I wish someone would frickin hire me already so i can buy tww
Very useful thank you.
Is the m+ Avinging crusader build much worse than the Herald of the sun build, or is it close?
Great video thanks for the upload. If I am aiming for title range do you think hpal is a good pick? I am experienced with hpal but not so much with evoker and shaman. Would you say that the upperhand of those are big enough to justify learning a new spec or hpal is good enough?
Your video making me want to play hpally
Thanks!!
Hello, nice guide, just wondering if I should run Wrath or Crusader as my wings ability in m+
I mained a resto shaman for a few years now. Wanted to give Hpal a try. Raided last night and it just felt so clunky. I heard recently that light of the martyr shouldn't be taken anymore, but I'm not sure. It felt a little better when I had it. Thoughts on this?
Any thoughts on avenging crusader with herald of the sun? Was thinking you’d get wings more often for the light beams.
great as always ty! also Belf over dwarf now?
isnt there ellesmere for every healer spec
Nobody has a dedicated website like this
Do you do world content/delves as holy spec? Or do you switch to Ret? If you stay Holy, do you have a specific build that you use?
True gamer
With the recent change away from LotM, which talents would you take in those 2 place?
holy paladin looked great but the many nerfs too it kinda took me off it, is it still worth considering even after the nerfs and if lightsmith has to be playled in very high keys ?
Is Light of Dawn healing good? I swear i havent seen streamers using it during beta cycle at all.
is there any rotation helper for the solar crusades build? I always struggle with rotations and stuff
Did the removal of holy infusion not matter that much? Was surprised to not hear about it in the last section
LETS GOOOO
I raided last night on normal.. my goodness i was behind every healer for the most aprt. Was a 25 man sized raid group. Thoughts? Am i playing it wrong?
Merci pour les travaux
Lightsmith seems PvP focused
Hey! Why use Consecration if we are using Righteous Judgment talent??? is there some mechanic i don't know about?????
Righteous Judgment Consecrate doesn't replace your personal consecrate, it's additional (so you can have your own consecrate down + the righteous judgment proc'd consecate)
what y'all would recommend, I went mining/herb but the price are way to low to enjoy unlike early dragonflight.
JC selling big and I went blacksmith to sell the alloys big $$ since ore is going so low 🤣🤣
Question about blessing of summer: should we use it on CD nomatter the situation or actually hold when we get to the damage one for a good pack or boss?
Everyone is saying Mastery to be priority stat with the new Beacon of the Lightbringer Talent?
Is it Crit or Mastry? And is the stats priority the same for PvP?
In raid thats right Incase you can’t be close to your tank but in m+ I would go like he suggested crit/haste
@@Devonwilliams-zd1kc what about pvp?
Saw many holy paladin completely ignore casting light of dawn in raid this is from raid log
do you use any macros ? sorry for a silly question im just trying to learn hpala for first time
I haven't since I started running vuhdu addon.
Am I missing something with herald? I played Hpal after getting my Hpriest to 585 and hearld just feels really weak to me. My holy bulwark from light smith is doing 60-90 million healing a dungeon by just putting it on the tank and sacred weapon is doing about 30 million damage for me. I get on hearld and I feel like the damage just feels clunkier to me not sure why.
I could also be spoiled from holy priest. I get on my full plate battle healer paladin and I hit for like 200ks meanwhile my hpriest is using holy fire for 800k on a mob while cleaving for 300-400k and it makes me sad.
@@LazyLautrechearld has the lowest dps right now I believe of all healers I know for a fact hpriest/rsham easily doing 400-500k lol
@@Devonwilliams-zd1kc yea its like holy pal = blow my cds perfectly the entire dungeon do no damage. Holy priest just Holy fire the entire dungeon nothing else and im parsing haha.
@@LazyLautrec kinda annoying tbh feels like I’m pumping but I’m not haha then I go on my monk and it’s the freest dps ever smh
Nice vid, and I agree with most of what you say, you have vast more exp then me as well as reps. I think you mis spoke saying at the end of your video that holy shock is the best its ever been damage wise...(healing wise yes most likely but damage wise??) did you mean to say this? the mana use for using HS offensively is criminal and should be very low if not free like some other healing classes, and if its going to cost us that much mana the damage needs to be amped up alot like x2. With the removal of glimmer of light we actually lost dmg output of HS offensively and all our talents with the exception of reclamation dont buff our HS damage output, they should but they dont. so I disagree with you on this point, if they changed all talents that help/buff HS healing to buff damage to it would help a lot. you cant argue the damage output vs mana cost its insane atm. Also they have nerfed Holy light by 28% since beta started and left its mana cost at 160K this is also criminal, it needs to come back to 120k at least, I'm worried that Holy light is now way under powered for its cost, and that if you dont have infusion proc plus divine favour or hand of divinity, its through put is terrible compared to were it was. we dont want a repeat of what Holy light was in DF. cheers
lightsmith should be based around everything hammers, simple
Missed you handsome 😘
i dont like the heal absorb debuff with Martyr. I hope blizz changes this soon
Hey, ı am new to Holy paladin. I cant find word of glory talent. Can someone help me out pls? Ellsmere constantly says word of glory and light of dawn. I know what light of dawn is but ı cant find word glory. I am about to go crazy...
Word of Glory is replaced by Eternal Flame if you have the hero talent Herald of the Sun, so that's probably what you're missing! Any time I reference Word of Glory, just think Eternal Flame instead :)
@@EllesmereGaming Oh man, thank you so much. ♥
I don't know, I've been playing it in heroics and I feel like a wet noodle compared to my shaman or priest.
why are u so handsome?
LoM is trash, I really don’t understand why everyone is pushing it in guides. It’s just like the sark cloak in S4