@@LukeKickwalkerHe’s saying that Marshmello being an industry plant came as a surprise to him, because let’s face it, if you’re someone who just throws a Marshmello song on from time to time, you’d have no way of knowing this. Many people, myself included, probably figured that this is a DJ who blew up solely due to his gimmick/mystique and a few catchy tunes.
Probably he really doesn't fit that definition he was always on the scene just given the opportunity to get more famous. Which he understandbly accepted and ran with.
Everything makes sense now. I always called Marshmello "fake music". It isn't house, it isn't techno, it isn't dance, it's corporate pop disguised as EDM.
You know what? Props to Marshmello. Many celebrities probably envy him. When he takes off his helmet, no one recognizes him, so he can live his life in peace. Yet he's still loaded, and reaps the benefits from his connections to celebs. Quiet luxury life.
@@DeathnoteBB If there wasn't a demand, there would be no supply. Hollywood kept making trash until people woke up and boycotted their movies along with the SAG strikes. Don't get me wrong, I understand a population vs a corperate machine stands little chance. Unless that population forms a unionized community. My "take" is simply that personal responsiblity has to come into account after a certain point and you can't keep blaming people who see easy profit. It's on us to make what we consider "deep" and "quality" accessible, since it usually takes refinement and effort for people to be into that.
When Daft Punk disbanded there were a lot of people saying they should just hand the helmets to some younger artists who could continue for them. I feel like those are the kind of people who like Marshmello. No real love for the art, just fascination with a brand.
When Daft Punk disbanded there were a lot of people saying they should just hand the helmets to some younger artists who could continue for them. I feel like those are the kind of people who like Marshmello. No real love for the art, just fascination with a brand.
@@JamesRichards-zk2hl ya idk what that guy was smoking, been listening to marshmello for over 10 years. hes been around forever, fortnite just added to the popularity. He's also actually been inbetween genres too by doing the whole emo trap thing with his collab with lil peep back in the day too.
When Daft Punk disbanded there were a lot of people saying they should just hand the helmets to some younger artists who could continue for them. I feel like those are the kind of people who like Marshmello. No real love for the art, just fascination with a brand.@@Theunicorn2012
I worked those RPM parties and after his opening set, he sat by himself in the Green Room. I walked over and said "good show man" and he was super nice and humble. Really interesting to see the full picture
I worked those RPM parties and after his opening set, he sat by himself in the Green Room. I walked over and said "good show man" and he was super nice and humble. Really interesting to see the full picture
I worked those RPM parties and after his opening set, he sat by himself in the Green Room. I walked over and said "good show man" and he was super nice and humble. Really interesting to see the full picture
I worked those RPM parties and after his opening set, he sat by himself in the Green Room. I walked over and said "good show man" and he was super nice and humble. Really interesting to see the full picture
It's a testament that he's able to do what he does while being rich and famous and keeping anonymity, He's still able to walk the dog and go to the grocery store without anyone batting an eye. More power to him, He gets to have the cake and eat it too.
@@salazam many would sell their soul to have money, its not that bad of thing. people want money in various reason so whats wrong with that? you point out people who sell their souls for wealth but you never point out people who refused said money and is now living a mediocre life or in poverty
Marsh actually has a residency where i work, so i see him often. At first i was like oh, so this is him behind the mask, just a regular dude, but every time ive had him, hes super cool, his entourage are all cool and respectful, and half the time theyre talking about CoD before the show lol. Good for him
There's this thing called the Halloween costume theory, that you can tell an artist will be huge when you can dress up as them for Halloween. Marshmello's probably the 2nd best example of that in the EDM scene.... behind Daft Punk
There's this thing called the Halloween costume theory, that you can tell an artist will be huge when you dress up as them for Halloween. Marshmello's probably the 2nd best example of that in the EDM scene.… behind Daft Punk
It was super easy to figure out who Marshmello was because of the Skrillex interview. Plus all the photos of Chris' tattoos matching all of Marshmellos tattoos. I remember googling who was Marshmello back in like 2018 and the result was just Chris Comstocks Wikipedia page
Yeah, I'm with you. The whole Marshmello identity and him being an industry plant was a big (and already solved) topic 5 or more years ago. I already thought that everyone knew it and enjoy his music for what it is. But I guess the public consciousness is feeble in the sense that old listeners find new artists and every new listener doesn't necessarily dwell deep into every artist that they find. The whole topic of industry plants is fine by me, as long as the plants don't lie and don't try to heavily push back the fact that they are one. In the case of Marshmello brand, he hasn't confirmed nor denied the fact, which is fine by me.
as someone who has followed mello from day 1/WaVeZ, this is really accurate. Moe is the real brain behind Marshmello, he saw an opportunity with Chris and they built an empire together.
yeah I believe it! I met him in 2016 - super nice and professional guy. Chris is cool too- I met him in 2014 when he was touring with my friend. Very deserving people indeed@@eyoo369
Now I’m not saying what Deadmau5 did to Marshmallow was fair since I don’t think Joel really knew if Marshmallow was an industry plant or not, but it’s pretty funny looking back at all the times Joel basically spat on Marshmallow’s name after watching this video. Joel took shots at Marshmallow in the dark and hit the bullseye on an industry plant, and he HATES industry plants.
Man it's hard being an independent artist with no idea how these big artists do this, I don't really hate industry plants but I wish they would give real artists the same energy
“I always thought being a DJ was hard, but then one time at guitar center I started playing with the equipment, and realized literally anyone can do it.” -Nick Mullen
@@mrlloyd149 you don’t need a good set of decks, software and controllers have made it more accessible while allowing for more to be done. And a real decent set of decks like with 4 channel mixer and several effect knobs cost like 1600 usd and bellow just depends on preference, but you can easily make do with anything under 500 usd
What I find most funny is Chris is pretty cute guy, so he had all the pretty privilege going on if he wanted to become a star. But his apparent lack of charisma and charm was so strong they found it was way better to just put a mask on him and turn him into a brand based exacly on the lack of personality.
This one video has taught me more about the EDM scene and connections between artists than I ever even knew existed and I've been enjoying EDM my whole life
the person who ran the American Ninja Warrior course was competitor Josh Salinas, who cleared the first stage that season. He confirms this in his American Ninja Warrior 11 Submission Video.
Honestly. They had an idea and it worked. Idk why people would hate on the guy for. He’s making people happy and making money off of it. He can stay in the dark if he wishes to do so
I guess its just kind of lame that this became a literal brand. Like this is a prime example of the corpratization of music and its a really disgusting trend that music can be churned out to consumers with no love whatsoever. Its just lame and dosent set a good precedent for the future of music
I think decent people just tend to feel revolved when presented with such levels of falsehood. Also it's just another proof of how disgustingly artificial and poor is this whole genre of "music" and people
@@ChadIsYourDadlolwho are you to say it’s produced with no love. Dotcom has been on the scene forever, he definitely has love for music. Obviously making it a brand is true but if it’s a guy who loves music and is making good music who am I to care what works for him
I used to listen to Dotcom heavy back in the 2013-2015 trap days. When the first few Marshmello songs came out, I immediately knew the drums, and how they were mixed, were the same as Dotcom’s. and Dotcom had a few tracks that had jersey club drops with a trap switchup that sounded like early Mello songs. and the 808s Mello used were almost identical to what Dotcom was using at the time. Im a huge fan of bass music and have been for a long time, but yeah i definitely noticed it early on. amazing video as always pat 🔥
Damn I thought I was the only one recognising his kicks / drums. His early marshmello stuff was basically a mix between Wave Racer / San Holo and his older project Dotcom
It's strange to learn about things like this when I spent years not even caring about it. At the end of the day, I'll listen to it if I like it. I did like the story that was told in the music video for alone, and I still enjoy shockwave whenever I decide to give it another listen.
You should check out again. He shows his boss (chef) that he was creative and talented Or party jumpin/ unity: a 2 part story where mello joins a soccer tournament and goes against a cocky team
It's been pretty obvious that Chris Comstock is Marshmello. This guy just makes it seem like its a big thing or some kind of expose. He's 7 years late into the news. Even when that news made it into the internet people didn't care much. They still enjoyed his music. Narrator's just a grifter capitalizing on the clueless much like most youtubers these days. The likes of Pearl Davis and the manosphere content creators
honestly, must be kinda nice being that famous and rich and still be able to go about daily life without too many people knowing who you are. Fella played his cards right.
I always had a feeling he was an industry plant but I still believed he just got lucky. As time went on you could just tell by his music that he wasn’t the one making the music. It’s all just a big brand of corporate industry workers. This all just goes to show that you do need to work hard for whatever you want in life unless you have massive team and budget with you to accomplish that. Aside from that I’m glad you made this video. It’s important to let people know it’s as easy to get his level of popularity by being an industry plant.
@@mism847Sure but at least have some authenticity in your brand. People still think he’s the one making the music when it’s really a bunch of people making it. Your not even an artist at that point which is what they want to sell to the listeners.
@@Bobspineable you’re missing the point. Marshmello is basically the Drake of edm. Drake has ghostwriters and so does marshmello, the only difference is that drake is honest about it. It’s not cool to lie to your fans and act like you worked hard to get rich and famous by yourself. He’s a sellout and that’s the reality of his career.
the marshmello wikipedia article reads: _“Christopher Comstock (born May 19, 1992), known professionally as Marshmello, is an American electronic music producer and DJ.”_
the part about people who say that marshmello is their fav artist is so real, back when i first got into him, i was literally like 9 lmao but also, to this day, i dont think his music is that bad? maybe bc i grew up with it tho, idk
This is exactly why Gorillaz was formed. Damon Alburn as the former frontman for Blur, saw music heading this way, as did most in the 90s and why Gen X ended up burning down Woodstock. Alburn had 4 virtual characters created to be the band, and hid his identity for years. You only interacted with Gorillaz. He stopped after getting tired of hiding his identity. Gorillas is an entire universe now.
@@theironsheik6322 Yeah I feel like he has a super distinctive voice that was present right from Gorillaz' self titled. Admittedly, I'm young enough that I know Gorillaz much more than I know Blur and in fact discovered them in that order...
i love your vidoes and have for a while, but I fell off hip hop because I got so heavily invested in bass music and edm in general. seeing you cover this is so sick and hopefully you'll be able to tap into some of the other crazy shenanigans that have gone on in that side of music
i love your videos and have for a while, but I fell off hip hop because I got so heavily invested in bass music and edm in general. seeing you cover this is so sick and hopefully you'll be able to tap into some of the other crazy shenanigans that have gone on in that side of music
i love your vidoes and have for a while, but I fell off hip hop because I got so heavily invested in bass music and edm in general. seeing you cover this is so sick and hopefully you'll be able to tap into some of the other crazy shenanigans that have gone on in that side of music
I kinda wanna make a video about trap music and dupstep and why i kinda disliked them when they were popular And i will also talk about why i don't like Skrillex He is my least favorite artist
Me and Chris went to the same high school lol. He was a few years ahead of me. We had the same math tutor (shoutout Mrs.O). He's a super nice guy, super happy he's been as successful as he is now.
Honestly, Mashmello is a human being. He is still awesome and a human being under thst mask just wanting to be appreciated for his music without us knowing his personal life. I respect him as a person and I would never force him to revel his identity. I would enjoy him rather he has his mask on or not.
Sia does the same thing, only has weird hair. Personally, I love Marshmallow, I love working out to his music and it does carry a really cool positive vibe. I think Marshmallow has done a bang-up job at leveraging more than one industry. To top it off if he goes into public he's not barraged with crazy fans, paparazzi etc... My hats off to the guy! Nothing but respect.
I still remember the day I found alone, a few days after it released browsing UA-cam with my cousin we stumbled upon a weird dude with a marshmellow shaped helmet. We clicked cause it looked goofy, but We listened and genuinely loved it. A lot of my highschool playlists included quite a few marshmello songs. Bro popped off cause he put a bucket on his head and looked goofy. 😂
Was with you until the end. EDM is art. There is tons of commercial, appeal-to-all, generic tracks out there yes. But there’s so much more music underground that’s just good music
It's so out of depth how this video talks right out the gate with saying that nobody listens to marshmello, wonders why he has 50 million listeners on spotify, then says that EDM and Marshmello are not art because there is no way to develop a deeper connection to rhythm-based music. "It can't be that he has actual fans! It must be because he's a good product!" Yeah, uh... oh.
I feel like it's worth mentioning that Spor isn't a side project for Feed Me. Spor existed prior to Feed Me, and was John Gooch's original alias as he got his name out there making dnb, much like how 12th Planet and Kill the Noise did the same as Infiltrata and Ewun, respectively. A more apt comparison might be to Bro Safari, which is a side project/alternate alias of a member of Evol Intent. Prime Loops also isn't a stock music website but a site to purchase sample packs to use in music.
i also feel like its worth mentioning that knife party isnt a side project of pendulum but rather a side project of rob swire and gareth mcgrillen, the rest of the band has nothing to do with it.
As someone who loves test kitchens, I think the idea of a bunch of music scientists working together to give the people what they want is as brilliant as the Mcdonald's team finding the bliss point for the big mac. I'm not mad at all
Its similarity to McDonald’s is precisely why he gets the hate💀 Not to mention. Curating songs that are proven to work for the masses is not a new phenomena !!
@@salazam these people are the reason why we are head first into the dystopian nightmare while they lie to themselves and call it "Utopia". There can be no love for truth if they think truth is subjective, instead of objective and absolute.
The problem is that's not what they're doing. They're engineering satisfaction using psychological and subliminal manipulation, for maximum revenue growth. Those aren't "music scientists" those are Psych majors following the orders of MBA majors with "advice" from musicians who are cut a check and are happy to not be a "starving artist" anymore. They're more _telling_ you what and how to "feel the music" than figuring out what you actually like and catering to that. That's why MM and other industry plants are so generic and is heavily skewed to younger audiences. Because it's informed by _general_ psychology to appeal to the widest possible audience, which is maximally applicable to people at ages before they've fleshed out their own individuality (13/14 and younger).
I can tell you from someone who has met the guy, he knows how to use the DAW and produces his own music. He, just like most people at the top, have engineers to mix and master his tracks now. Dude can’t be an industry plant if he knows how to make music and knows how to DJ. Many others are better at it than he is, but today marketing prevails over skill in EDM; and anyone who has made dance music within the last 8 years knows that’s the reality.
Marketing has always prevailed over skill in entertainment. It's what brings bank and money is something anything helpful to push you even further can get behind to further push someone ahead. It was even more important to do proper marketing before the internet was a thing. It's the number 1 reason why most artists having something good enough to take off don't make money doing what they do despite being better than their competitors skill wise.
Absolutely Man. It is really essential for us to take a step back and look at the industry as whole not just blabbering on half the knowledge. Patrick doesn't really seem to get the culture of EDM. You can have the best music but without good marketing it's really hard to make it out through the other end, Even The Chainsmokers have admitted it. Now a days marketing is absolutely essential love it or hate it. Mello he's just here to do the job grab some money all artist need that one way or the other.
For me, it's not an industry plant. He used the connections he gather and he's producing/dj the music he dones, as Dotcom or Marsh. So, just have respect for it.
I agree. I view an industry plant as a product that was created in a board room rather than a bed room. You can claim Marshmello is a product instead of an artist, but he only got that way because he was a successful DJ first, then found a gimmick that worked.
Crazzzzyy basement dwellers out trying to give music advice to those who haven't even made it successful 😂 stay in UA-cam comments. Where ya'll belong. You ain't making music.
@@kylegibson5933 It's crazy that someone thinks that if you saw someone paying to be on your ads 24/7 that makes this person a real musician. You have been tricked by this industry, it's all fake generic shit to make you be amazed at money and fame and be a puppet throwing money and attention at them and even spending time defending them on internet
The whole Marshmello identity and him being an industry plant was a big (and already solved) topic 5 or more years ago. I already thought that everyone knew it and enjoy his music for what it is. But I guess the public consciousness is feeble in the sense that old listeners find new artists and every new listener doesn't necessarily dwell deep into every artist that they find. The whole topic of industry plants is fine by me, as long as the plants don't lie and don't try to heavily push back the fact that they are one. In the case of Marshmello brand, he hasn't confirmed nor denied the fact, which is fine by me + the surface level mystique is the brand.
Im glad im not the only one feeling sour about all the gambling Patrick's been promoting lately 😕 theres plenty of sponsors for you out there man dont fall down that route
The fact that people enjoy marshmello's music than trying to uncover his identity is probably one of the best things about the edm community, it doesn't matter what he does in his free time with or without the mask as long as his music is good enough to send positive vibes then its a win in my book
Been going to fests since 2017 and most ppl I've spoke to aren't fans of him LOL. Ppl who are very new to the scene like him. He used to be my fave too before I really got into the music. His music is very mid. That being said, in any community there's people who act too high and mighty. There's always ones who take that patronizing mindset. Live and let live. But I completely understand why people do not like him -- he represents everything that raving used to stand up against -- society's rules, capitalism and all that.
It's crazy how people used to press Twitch streamers for gamble and now almost everybody are promoting Underdog and other betting company. I know that those companies are not as bad as whatever they were promoting. That's the start
Well orchestrated business moves by Moe and Chris… whether you like Marshmello’s music or not you have to at the very least respect how monumental the Marshmello brand has become. That said, I would like to see Mello give back to smaller up and coming artists more often, especially given the scale of his platform... Much love ❤
I really like this one! My only feedback is in the wrapup at the end, you posited EDM/dance music as a product. In my opinion this isn't true, because dance music/EDM is just like any other genre. It has its artists, its oddballs, its alternative producers, people who view their work as extremely unique and not a product. EDM is just another genre of music, I think asserting that it is a product is reductive. Other than that I really liked the documentary!
Yea but to say all of EDM doesn't have vocals is completely false. This dude clearly doesn't listen to enough EDM to know that. He lost me at the end. Hipster trashing EDM...no shocker there. @@phabiorules
Yeah I think he makes a weak point though. You can call any artist with a manager and a record label a “product” because it’s a capitalist economy and people have to make money, just like any other industry. That doesn’t mean the music isn’t still art, though it may make it less artistically enriched. The “product not art” statement is a baseless claim that weakened the video if you ask me.
@@carsonlove531 you could say that, but the point that people make when they say that is the intention. the company and usually the artist have the full intention of making a product, a line of products. they never intended to make art and will never make the sacrifices or risks that art entails. (im talking about pop mainly not indie/etc). business inherently lacks some of the qualities of art. you dont have to make money with music either.
Being a fan of Electronic Music & heavily invested in the scene from back in the late 2000s I definitely miss the social media days/"EDM twitter" back in 2013-2016 going down Soundcloud rabbit holes discovering lots of these artists you mentioned. And for the folks that were following all this stuff back in those days with all the names & labels mentioned like OWSLA, NestHQ & a bunch of others, within a few weeks Marshmello bursting onto the scene people quickly narrowed down the list to either Jauz or DOTCOM being Marshmello so that trick Tiesto pulled at EDC only really had shock value to the mainstage kids who had no clue of what was going on. I liked a few of his first few tracks that had heavy bass elements but I wasn't too keen on the forced beef/drama he tried starting with household names like Deadmau5 & once he fully transitioned into a Pop brand & all the "Fortnite" stuff I completely checked out. It was obviously wild seeing DOTCOM go from an average remix producer/run of the mill DJ to a global brand in real time & good on him for his success but for many purists of the wide genre of Electronic music this was a signal of the direction the whole scene was headed in with lots of promising names & even some seasoned veterans completely ditching their own sub genres/sound & switching to generic Big Room/Mainstage sound or just straight up pop music which they were just doing to try & stay relevant with the growing crowd of "mainstage" fans attending the big EDM festivals. I liked watching this cause it brought back a lot of memories & things I haven't really thought about in years tbh & you broke down a lot of the little details pretty well so even fans of this guy who may not have known his backstory can learn a few things about the scene in general.
I'm a freshman in college and I've been listening to Marshmello since middle school. He definitely stands out in my playlist, but I just love the guy. Edit: I also don't agree with your theory that Marshmello is actually multiple people, at least music-wise.
I met Dotcom in Philly when he was opening for Kapslap! Then I met Marshmello a couple years later and they sounded exactly the same in person! He's still a Goat and I always said he deserves more!
You forgot to mention the Coca-Cola exclusive Creations flavor they made for Marshmellow that confused everyone. It was in a tall white can, designed to look like a Marshmellow but tasted like Strawberry Kiwi. 😮
Yeah so multiple producers work on one project for the majority of popular releases. It’s pretty obvious Chris started the whole thing but this is just how the music industry works if you just wanna make pop music. No one person does everything at that level.
love your videos and on THIS one because of all the heavy work i did in the dance scene, i coulda (on this one) given you alllll this info AND THEN SOME LOL. need anymore info on the edm scene. i got a ton of it lol. truly. this whole video i was made aware of alll of it in 2016/2017 haha. love the video still always love u work u kill it pat
All of your content is so good. The way you talk is very calming and it's clear that you put a lot of effort and time to into researching your topic and also making it entertaining. Thank you. 🥰
I don't understand why he is taking shots in this video. Marshmello is great and only considered "generic" because he easily popularized that sound for mainstream future bass and trap. It isn't elitist to not like Marshmello, just douchy and hipster. I've listened to EDM regularly for over 10 years and a variety of genres. Marshmello is a legit good producer and his popularity speaks for itself.
I don't understand why he is taking shots in this video. Marshmello is great and only considered "generic" because he easily popularized that sound for mainstream future bass and trap. It isn't elitist to not like Marshmello, just douchy and hipster. I've listened to EDM regularly for over 10 years and a variety of genres. Marshmello is a legit good producer and his popularity speaks for itself.
@@elobiretv Are kids able to get through security at festivals, Vegas nightclubs, or concert halls? Not always. Why hate on a big fanbase? Mello is probably paving the way for the next-gen of ravers and EDM fans.
i didnt even know bro was an industry plant
Me neither
How isn’t he?
@@LukeKickwalkerHe’s saying that Marshmello being an industry plant came as a surprise to him, because let’s face it, if you’re someone who just throws a Marshmello song on from time to time, you’d have no way of knowing this.
Many people, myself included, probably figured that this is a DJ who blew up solely due to his gimmick/mystique and a few catchy tunes.
@@TheNickJames Exactly, I always thought everyone thinks he made some interesting EDM songs. But I guess it was a facade.
What ever you say.
Pat had no chill within the first 10 seconds 💀
😂😂
Only reason I was down to watch was the upfront honesty
I felt insulted because I didn't understand why he would talk shit about the guy, but it made sense as the video went on lol.
@@mrcojocaruhe fell off bro
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Marshmello is literally the only industry plant that is seen in a positive light.
Probably he really doesn't fit that definition he was always on the scene just given the opportunity to get more famous.
Which he understandbly accepted and ran with.
Well I mean Chris GRINDED as DOTCOM. Hell he was scooped up by monstercat when they first started, and ain’t nobody that just happens to
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Marshmello being a plant makes sense to me. Really explains how he came out of nowhere despite being so mediocre
Everything makes sense now. I always called Marshmello "fake music". It isn't house, it isn't techno, it isn't dance, it's corporate pop disguised as EDM.
Damn near every artist come out of nowhere despite being mediocre now.
he was famous before being marshmello
always been that way, always iwll be that way
everyone starts somewhere@@coltonwilkie241
Tbh, the only thing I like from Marshmello was the beat for Hate The Other Side by Juice WRLD.
You know what? Props to Marshmello. Many celebrities probably envy him. When he takes off his helmet, no one recognizes him, so he can live his life in peace. Yet he's still loaded, and reaps the benefits from his connections to celebs. Quiet luxury life.
That’s one thing I’ve always loved and would absolutely want to do as an artist! Best of both worlds 😊
Yup! Him and Dolly Parton played the fame game well.
At least you don’t hate him lol I’m not a fan when your a plant I lose all respect for you
@@LukeJaxsonevery artist is an industry plant to an extent
I honestly think he did a smart life/career move. He seen it wasn’t working and found something that worked and ran with it. Hats off to him.
I hate that his trash is successful, but I hate the hordes of people who consume it more.
@@unknownamusWeird take. There’s nothing to consume without the trash. Blame the manipulators not the manipulated
@@DeathnoteBB If there wasn't a demand, there would be no supply. Hollywood kept making trash until people woke up and boycotted their movies along with the SAG strikes. Don't get me wrong, I understand a population vs a corperate machine stands little chance. Unless that population forms a unionized community.
My "take" is simply that personal responsiblity has to come into account after a certain point and you can't keep blaming people who see easy profit. It's on us to make what we consider "deep" and "quality" accessible, since it usually takes refinement and effort for people to be into that.
i feel you, but you know the bots are always gonna eat something up @@unknownamus
Hey I didn’t say it was the best music ever lmfao, I don’t even listen to him, I just think he’s a smart business man.
When Daft Punk disbanded there were a lot of people saying they should just hand the helmets to some younger artists who could continue for them. I feel like those are the kind of people who like Marshmello. No real love for the art, just fascination with a brand.
When Daft Punk disbanded there were a lot of people saying they should just hand the helmets to some younger artists who could continue for them. I feel like those are the kind of people who like Marshmello. No real love for the art, just fascination with a brand.
@Artificial.StudioNah he got popular for the music.
@@JamesRichards-zk2hl ya idk what that guy was smoking, been listening to marshmello for over 10 years. hes been around forever, fortnite just added to the popularity. He's also actually been inbetween genres too by doing the whole emo trap thing with his collab with lil peep back in the day too.
When Daft Punk disbanded there were a lot of people saying they should just hand the helmets to some younger artists who could continue for them. I feel like those are the kind of people who like Marshmello. No real love for the art, just fascination with a brand.@@Theunicorn2012
Agreed
I worked those RPM parties and after his opening set, he sat by himself in the Green Room. I walked over and said "good show man" and he was super nice and humble. Really interesting to see the full picture
I worked those RPM parties and after his opening set, he sat by himself in the Green Room. I walked over and said "good show man" and he was super nice and humble. Really interesting to see the full picture
I worked those RPM parties and after his opening set, he sat by himself in the Green Room. I walked over and said "good show man" and he was super nice and humble. Really interesting to see the full picture
I worked those RPM parties and after his opening set, he sat by himself in the Green Room. I walked over and said "good show man" and he was super nice and humble. Really interesting to see the full picture
@@gxooo In case you don't know everyone here is a bot
@@rayanalsinan no they are just doing it for fun. they're not bots
It's a testament that he's able to do what he does while being rich and famous and keeping anonymity, He's still able to walk the dog and go to the grocery store without anyone batting an eye. More power to him, He gets to have the cake and eat it too.
Watch the video it's his whole team behind this marshmallow is not a person he's a product and they make mediocre trashy music.
Keeping anonymity is a blessing. Especially now
Yeah but his soul is dead from selling out.
@@JohannesNielsenhe does not have anonymity, its literally right here. its just that nobody gives a fuck
@@salazam many would sell their soul to have money, its not that bad of thing. people want money in various reason so whats wrong with that? you point out people who sell their souls for wealth but you never point out people who refused said money and is now living a mediocre life or in poverty
Marsh actually has a residency where i work, so i see him often. At first i was like oh, so this is him behind the mask, just a regular dude, but every time ive had him, hes super cool, his entourage are all cool and respectful, and half the time theyre talking about CoD before the show lol. Good for him
There's this thing called the Halloween costume theory, that you can tell an artist will be huge when you can dress up as them for Halloween.
Marshmello's probably the 2nd best example of that in the EDM scene.... behind Daft Punk
@@mikedraper6218fr lmao
There's this thing called the Halloween costume theory, that you can tell an artist will be huge when you dress up as them for Halloween. Marshmello's probably the 2nd best example of that in the EDM scene.… behind Daft Punk
@ellasoderstrom5407 why did you copy paste that comment
Halloween costumes are made based off of what is popular in culture (pop culture), the popularity comes BEFORE the costume is made and marketed
Yeah! Screw Joelmouse!
It was super easy to figure out who Marshmello was because of the Skrillex interview. Plus all the photos of Chris' tattoos matching all of Marshmellos tattoos. I remember googling who was Marshmello back in like 2018 and the result was just Chris Comstocks Wikipedia page
This!!!
Ive heard people say it was him since like 2016
Yeah, I'm with you. The whole Marshmello identity and him being an industry plant was a big (and already solved) topic 5 or more years ago.
I already thought that everyone knew it and enjoy his music for what it is. But I guess the public consciousness is feeble in the sense that old listeners find new artists and every new listener doesn't necessarily dwell deep into every artist that they find.
The whole topic of industry plants is fine by me, as long as the plants don't lie and don't try to heavily push back the fact that they are one. In the case of Marshmello brand, he hasn't confirmed nor denied the fact, which is fine by me.
hes not a plant though lmao
I think it's kinda funny that Skrillex aka the undercover Scientologist is out here outing ppl 🤫
as someone who has followed mello from day 1/WaVeZ, this is really accurate. Moe is the real brain behind Marshmello, he saw an opportunity with Chris and they built an empire together.
and can you really hate them for that? its inspiring to me.
I've worked with Moe Shalizi in 2015. He's an absolute genius in marketing and one of the hardest workers I've ever seen. Totally deserved
yeah I believe it! I met him in 2016 - super nice and professional guy. Chris is cool too- I met him in 2014 when he was touring with my friend. Very deserving people indeed@@eyoo369
Moe even said that he takes a very big percentage of the money in an interview from Sundae Conversation
Now I’m not saying what Deadmau5 did to Marshmallow was fair since I don’t think Joel really knew if Marshmallow was an industry plant or not, but it’s pretty funny looking back at all the times Joel basically spat on Marshmallow’s name after watching this video. Joel took shots at Marshmallow in the dark and hit the bullseye on an industry plant, and he HATES industry plants.
the goat lord 🔥🔥
his mau5 senses tingled
Deadmau5 is the real deal. The GOAT if there ever was one.
@@joshtp313FACTS
He probably knows more than we do about new artists and the industry in general
Man it's hard being an independent artist with no idea how these big artists do this, I don't really hate industry plants but I wish they would give real artists the same energy
The whole point the video was making is that Skrillex *does* give real artists the same chances and energy. Did you even listen to the video?
Most of the time it's just luck mixed with at least decent production.
Its called “sacrificing your soul”
Yeah I understand deadmau5 frustrations
@@domi8585 That was *not* the "whole point" of the video lol
"Marshmello could be DJing for the next 100 years" had me more scared than any video I've ever watched about The Singularity.
😂😂😂😂😂
Just coz he's DJing doesn't mean you still gotta listen to him
I never heard of Marshmellow until this video,
@@tubester4567 Oh, you sweet summer child.
Ok this comment wins
“I always thought being a DJ was hard, but then one time at guitar center I started playing with the equipment, and realized literally anyone can do it.” -Nick Mullen
Low barrier of entry high skill ceiling that’s what makes djing fun and cool
@@OfficialDjTalksickI dunno man, a good set of decks costs like 6 months rent where I’m from
@@mrlloyd149 you don’t need a good set of decks, software and controllers have made it more accessible while allowing for more to be done. And a real decent set of decks like with 4 channel mixer and several effect knobs cost like 1600 usd and bellow just depends on preference, but you can easily make do with anything under 500 usd
Who said you need a good deck? “Entry” means getting started. You can DJ birthday parties with a $250 used Pioneer DDJ if you want.
@@carsonlove531 or just an iPad too lol 😂
Dude went from “drink water” to “use my code to gable” crazy what greed can do.
What I find most funny is Chris is pretty cute guy, so he had all the pretty privilege going on if he wanted to become a star. But his apparent lack of charisma and charm was so strong they found it was way better to just put a mask on him and turn him into a brand based exacly on the lack of personality.
☠💀
This one video has taught me more about the EDM scene and connections between artists than I ever even knew existed and I've been enjoying EDM my whole life
the person who ran the American Ninja Warrior course was competitor Josh Salinas, who cleared the first stage that season. He confirms this in his American Ninja Warrior 11 Submission Video.
10:32 "Bucket-head Beef" is the greatest roast ive ever heard toward those two
Man this brought back some ptsd from that scene, good to see it’s being aired out now. Good video. 👌
Dotcom rebranding to a new style is not what an Industry Plant is lmao
Honestly. They had an idea and it worked. Idk why people would hate on the guy for. He’s making people happy and making money off of it. He can stay in the dark if he wishes to do so
I guess its just kind of lame that this became a literal brand. Like this is a prime example of the corpratization of music and its a really disgusting trend that music can be churned out to consumers with no love whatsoever. Its just lame and dosent set a good precedent for the future of music
I think decent people just tend to feel revolved when presented with such levels of falsehood. Also it's just another proof of how disgustingly artificial and poor is this whole genre of "music" and people
@@ChadIsYourDadlolwho are you to say it’s produced with no love. Dotcom has been on the scene forever, he definitely has love for music. Obviously making it a brand is true but if it’s a guy who loves music and is making good music who am I to care what works for him
its not a guy its a company
Well lying is never to be commended.
I'm an EDM fanboy and Pat won me within first 10 seconds, legend.
I'm an EDM fanboy and Pat won me within first 10 seconds, legend.
Did he also win you with his sponsor gambling scam too?
same
@@chodiusmaximus4042literally lol
@ellasodestrom507 copy paste this comment so we can continue with life.
I used to listen to Dotcom heavy back in the 2013-2015 trap days. When the first few Marshmello songs came out, I immediately knew the drums, and how they were mixed, were the same as Dotcom’s. and Dotcom had a few tracks that had jersey club drops with a trap switchup that sounded like early Mello songs. and the 808s Mello used were almost identical to what Dotcom was using at the time. Im a huge fan of bass music and have been for a long time, but yeah i definitely noticed it early on. amazing video as always pat 🔥
Wow I knew who he was from just business ties but that is impressive! Well done!
Damn I thought I was the only one recognising his kicks / drums. His early marshmello stuff was basically a mix between Wave Racer / San Holo and his older project Dotcom
It's strange to learn about things like this when I spent years not even caring about it. At the end of the day, I'll listen to it if I like it. I did like the story that was told in the music video for alone, and I still enjoy shockwave whenever I decide to give it another listen.
You should check out again. He shows his boss (chef) that he was creative and talented
Or party jumpin/ unity: a 2 part story where mello joins a soccer tournament and goes against a cocky team
It's been pretty obvious that Chris Comstock is Marshmello. This guy just makes it seem like its a big thing or some kind of expose. He's 7 years late into the news. Even when that news made it into the internet people didn't care much. They still enjoyed his music.
Narrator's just a grifter capitalizing on the clueless much like most youtubers these days. The likes of Pearl Davis and the manosphere content creators
it was out before his fortnite days... this guy is just hating @@MZRTMusic254
Stop promoting gambling
Love this show but I agree. It’s not just him it’s on all platforms.
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Who are yall to tell him what to do
Stop making anime your personality
honestly, must be kinda nice being that famous and rich and still be able to go about daily life without too many people knowing who you are. Fella played his cards right.
I miss Chris as DOTCOM but as long as he's happy doing what he does, that's all that matters.
No that isn't "all that matters"
@@salazam So what all matters?
Hell of a come up. Rebranding ain’t illegal or anything. It’s smart.
Good for Chris. You can criticize him, but he spreads joy and has done extremely well for himself.
He also takes songs from others and claims their his.
Well he’s stole lots of songs so no
While he may spread joy he does it unoriginally and without people knowing what he really is…
We praise brazen thieves
@@tristen_grantnot at all
Deadmau5 was right people called him crazy back in 2016 for hating on marshmellow he knew what was really going on.
I always had a feeling he was an industry plant but I still believed he just got lucky. As time went on you could just tell by his music that he wasn’t the one making the music. It’s all just a big brand of corporate industry workers. This all just goes to show that you do need to work hard for whatever you want in life unless you have massive team and budget with you to accomplish that. Aside from that I’m glad you made this video. It’s important to let people know it’s as easy to get his level of popularity by being an industry plant.
What is more important than working hard is working smart.
@@mism847Sure but at least have some authenticity in your brand. People still think he’s the one making the music when it’s really a bunch of people making it. Your not even an artist at that point which is what they want to sell to the listeners.
Its music, why are we talking about how good the corners are t9 cut, we cant cut all corners for muh bizness bro@mism847
@@phoenics0912I mean so what, a song is just a song. In this day, you’ve gotta learn to play the game.
@@Bobspineable you’re missing the point. Marshmello is basically the Drake of edm. Drake has ghostwriters and so does marshmello, the only difference is that drake is honest about it. It’s not cool to lie to your fans and act like you worked hard to get rich and famous by yourself. He’s a sellout and that’s the reality of his career.
When I used to teach middle school 5 years ago, students raved all the time about him.
When I used to teach middle school 5 years ago, students raved all the time about him.
@@Theunicorn2012when i was in middle school 5 years ago i knew of him. like him good vibes but not much else
that’s cuz he was in fortnite
@@Theunicorn2012why i replying to every comment with the same thing 😂
Marshmello is Dotcom.
BTW make more videos about Dubstep producers plzzz!!!!
Marshmello is Dotcom. BTW make more videos about Dubstep producers plzzzzz!!!!
VIRTUAL RIOT PLEASE
@@Theunicorn2012 bot
That's a pretty concise way of summarising corporate music: not art; a product.
Well art is a product. A product you can consume. Unless it’s a hobby for yourself, the art you make is a product for financial gain.
the marshmello wikipedia article reads: _“Christopher Comstock (born May 19, 1992), known professionally as Marshmello, is an American electronic music producer and DJ.”_
This made laugh out loud. I love deadmau5 their spicy exchanges are so funny.
Lol 😂
I Love your use of “laugh out loud”
Lol 😆 also the “their”
Instead of just saying his spicy music
But anyways cheers haha 🤍🤍🤍
This made laugh out loud. I love deadmau5 their spicy exchanges are so funny.
He's the best
yessir its my birthday wish me one@@Theunicorn2012
deadmau5 don't give af
I think more people connect with the music than you realize, even without words.
I think more people connect with the music than you realize, even without words.
sure, but different connections have different depths.
Can't stand EDM music
A lot of music with words are equally like a product than commercial edm. Just popular music in general isn't something you can connect to.
@@Baker19911 tbf i can already tell you do not know much about electronic music. It's a pretty broad genre
You Are an amazing commentary channel my guy, genuinely your research is thorough, and intertaining. Keep it up.
the part about people who say that marshmello is their fav artist is so real, back when i first got into him, i was literally like 9 lmao but also, to this day, i dont think his music is that bad? maybe bc i grew up with it tho, idk
Marshmello is the modern crazy frog
This is exactly why Gorillaz was formed. Damon Alburn as the former frontman for Blur, saw music heading this way, as did most in the 90s and why Gen X ended up burning down Woodstock. Alburn had 4 virtual characters created to be the band, and hid his identity for years. You only interacted with Gorillaz. He stopped after getting tired of hiding his identity. Gorillas is an entire universe now.
Damon is still the frontman for Blur. They released an album a few months ago.
I was actually born before 9/11. Everyone instantly knew who he was.
@@theironsheik6322 Yeah I feel like he has a super distinctive voice that was present right from Gorillaz' self titled. Admittedly, I'm young enough that I know Gorillaz much more than I know Blur and in fact discovered them in that order...
Gorillaz was widely reported as Damon Albarn's project from day 1, it was never a 'secret' as such
dude what? damon was always associated with gorillaz from day one.
Nice headcanon tho.
Patrick is killing it with the quality and consistency
Patrick is killing it with the quality and consistency
And scamming his fans with his shady sponsors because he's a sell out
@@chodiusmaximus4042agree 1+
@@chodiusmaximus4042 that's how youtubers make money bozo
@@Theunicorn2012 bro the bots better not start just copying the comment
Marshmello was admittedly my favorite back when Alone came out all that time ago
😂 that’s some sad shit
@Gobbldeegoo1 I haven't listened to any of his new stuff in the past 3 or so years😭😭. At the time though I was in my EDM phase.
I remember when it had barely a million views about 8 years ago, and it was alright for the time but looking back at it now, it was pretty cringe
@@Gobbldeegoo1Why?
As an old American living outside of the US for 20 years this channel is gold for me knowing what the he ll people are talking about when I go home.
You out did yourself on this one Pat Kudos brother.
i love your vidoes and have for a while, but I fell off hip hop because I got so heavily invested in bass music and edm in general. seeing you cover this is so sick and hopefully you'll be able to tap into some of the other crazy shenanigans that have gone on in that side of music
i love your videos and have for a while, but I fell off hip hop because I got so heavily invested in bass music and edm in general. seeing you cover this is so sick and hopefully you'll be able to tap into some of the other crazy shenanigans that have gone on in that side of music
nah this guy has always been more of a hip hop rap fan
@@Theunicorn2012 why are you replying to everyone copy pasting their comment
i love your vidoes and have for a while, but I fell off hip hop because I got so heavily invested in bass music and edm in general. seeing you cover this is so sick and hopefully you'll be able to tap into some of the other crazy shenanigans that have gone on in that side of music
I kinda wanna make a video about trap music and dupstep and why i kinda disliked them when they were popular
And i will also talk about why i don't like Skrillex
He is my least favorite artist
Me and Chris went to the same high school lol. He was a few years ahead of me. We had the same math tutor (shoutout Mrs.O). He's a super nice guy, super happy he's been as successful as he is now.
I’ve learned about so many different people from listening to Pat. Good stuff, please don’t stop making content.
Skrillex also has a Supergroup with Boys Noize called DogBlood. And when Zhu was first coming up, people thought that was Skrillex too.
Honestly, Mashmello is a human being. He is still awesome and a human being under thst mask just wanting to be appreciated for his music without us knowing his personal life. I respect him as a person and I would never force him to revel his identity. I would enjoy him rather he has his mask on or not.
Sia does the same thing, only has weird hair. Personally, I love Marshmallow, I love working out to his music and it does carry a really cool positive vibe. I think Marshmallow has done a bang-up job at leveraging more than one industry. To top it off if he goes into public he's not barraged with crazy fans, paparazzi etc...
My hats off to the guy! Nothing but respect.
That was a BRILLIANT video, Pat. Frickin well done, my guy 💪
I still remember the day I found alone, a few days after it released browsing UA-cam with my cousin we stumbled upon a weird dude with a marshmellow shaped helmet. We clicked cause it looked goofy, but We listened and genuinely loved it. A lot of my highschool playlists included quite a few marshmello songs. Bro popped off cause he put a bucket on his head and looked goofy. 😂
lol alone was terrible. softer than puppy shit and generic as fuck.
Was with you until the end. EDM is art. There is tons of commercial, appeal-to-all, generic tracks out there yes. But there’s so much more music underground that’s just good music
He's not saying EDM isn't art. He's saying marshmallows music isn't.
@@notsheeple-ih6hl he clearly says EDM isn’t art towards the end of the video. Bet marshmallo is just commercial beats
It's so out of depth how this video talks right out the gate with saying that nobody listens to marshmello, wonders why he has 50 million listeners on spotify, then says that EDM and Marshmello are not art because there is no way to develop a deeper connection to rhythm-based music. "It can't be that he has actual fans! It must be because he's a good product!" Yeah, uh... oh.
I feel like it's worth mentioning that Spor isn't a side project for Feed Me. Spor existed prior to Feed Me, and was John Gooch's original alias as he got his name out there making dnb, much like how 12th Planet and Kill the Noise did the same as Infiltrata and Ewun, respectively.
A more apt comparison might be to Bro Safari, which is a side project/alternate alias of a member of Evol Intent.
Prime Loops also isn't a stock music website but a site to purchase sample packs to use in music.
i also feel like its worth mentioning that knife party isnt a side project of pendulum but rather a side project of rob swire and gareth mcgrillen, the rest of the band has nothing to do with it.
I worked at Spirit Halloween two years ago and nearly the entire store sold out by November 2nd except for Marshmello helmets
I worked at Spirit Halloween two years ago and nearly the entire store sold out by November 2nd except for Marshmello helmets
America is turning into a Spirit Halloween store.
As someone who loves test kitchens, I think the idea of a bunch of music scientists working together to give the people what they want is as brilliant as the Mcdonald's team finding the bliss point for the big mac. I'm not mad at all
Considering the negative bodily effects of McDonald's, don't you think it's interesting that you're comparing this to food trash?
Its similarity to McDonald’s is precisely why he gets the hate💀
Not to mention. Curating songs that are proven to work for the masses is not a new phenomena !!
Spoken like a true consoomer.
@@salazam these people are the reason why we are head first into the dystopian nightmare while they lie to themselves and call it "Utopia". There can be no love for truth if they think truth is subjective, instead of objective and absolute.
The problem is that's not what they're doing. They're engineering satisfaction using psychological and subliminal manipulation, for maximum revenue growth. Those aren't "music scientists" those are Psych majors following the orders of MBA majors with "advice" from musicians who are cut a check and are happy to not be a "starving artist" anymore. They're more _telling_ you what and how to "feel the music" than figuring out what you actually like and catering to that. That's why MM and other industry plants are so generic and is heavily skewed to younger audiences. Because it's informed by _general_ psychology to appeal to the widest possible audience, which is maximally applicable to people at ages before they've fleshed out their own individuality (13/14 and younger).
My son was 9 years old but he told me that he absolutely loved marshmallow, and dressed up as him for Halloween, and yes he plays fortnight
I can tell you from someone who has met the guy, he knows how to use the DAW and produces his own music. He, just like most people at the top, have engineers to mix and master his tracks now. Dude can’t be an industry plant if he knows how to make music and knows how to DJ. Many others are better at it than he is, but today marketing prevails over skill in EDM; and anyone who has made dance music within the last 8 years knows that’s the reality.
Marketing has always prevailed over skill in entertainment. It's what brings bank and money is something anything helpful to push you even further can get behind to further push someone ahead. It was even more important to do proper marketing before the internet was a thing. It's the number 1 reason why most artists having something good enough to take off don't make money doing what they do despite being better than their competitors skill wise.
Absolutely Man. It is really essential for us to take a step back and look at the industry as whole not just blabbering on half the knowledge. Patrick doesn't really seem to get the culture of EDM. You can have the best music but without good marketing it's really hard to make it out through the other end, Even The Chainsmokers have admitted it. Now a days marketing is absolutely essential love it or hate it. Mello he's just here to do the job grab some money all artist need that one way or the other.
music in general imo, not just EDM. a ton of artists that are not good are super popular.
Cope
yeah
marshmello isn't just for 12 year olds. it's also for 30+ year olds who think they're still 16, just like skrilllex
Patrick always makes Mondays better bru❤🙌🏾
For me, it's not an industry plant. He used the connections he gather and he's producing/dj the music he dones, as Dotcom or Marsh. So, just have respect for it.
I agree. I view an industry plant as a product that was created in a board room rather than a bed room.
You can claim Marshmello is a product instead of an artist, but he only got that way because he was a successful DJ first, then found a gimmick that worked.
@@phabioruleshe is as generic as it gets.
Make him do a track that is not 4/4 or composed of 98% almost unmodified samples and you will see the talented marshmallow head melting on the floor
Crazzzzyy basement dwellers out trying to give music advice to those who haven't even made it successful 😂 stay in UA-cam comments. Where ya'll belong. You ain't making music.
@@kylegibson5933 It's crazy that someone thinks that if you saw someone paying to be on your ads 24/7 that makes this person a real musician. You have been tricked by this industry, it's all fake generic shit to make you be amazed at money and fame and be a puppet throwing money and attention at them and even spending time defending them on internet
People don’t hold a deep personal connection to an EDM artist? Avicii, hello? RIP KING.
The whole Marshmello identity and him being an industry plant was a big (and already solved) topic 5 or more years ago.
I already thought that everyone knew it and enjoy his music for what it is. But I guess the public consciousness is feeble in the sense that old listeners find new artists and every new listener doesn't necessarily dwell deep into every artist that they find.
The whole topic of industry plants is fine by me, as long as the plants don't lie and don't try to heavily push back the fact that they are one. In the case of Marshmello brand, he hasn't confirmed nor denied the fact, which is fine by me + the surface level mystique is the brand.
Im glad im not the only one feeling sour about all the gambling Patrick's been promoting lately 😕 theres plenty of sponsors for you out there man dont fall down that route
The fact that people enjoy marshmello's music than trying to uncover his identity is probably one of the best things about the edm community, it doesn't matter what he does in his free time with or without the mask as long as his music is good enough to send positive vibes then its a win in my book
Been going to fests since 2017 and most ppl I've spoke to aren't fans of him LOL. Ppl who are very new to the scene like him. He used to be my fave too before I really got into the music. His music is very mid. That being said, in any community there's people who act too high and mighty. There's always ones who take that patronizing mindset. Live and let live. But I completely understand why people do not like him -- he represents everything that raving used to stand up against -- society's rules, capitalism and all that.
Patrick, I'm a big fan of yours and a big fan of electronic music. I love when you do videos about EDM. I'd love to see more content like this!
Yes I wanna hear about bassnectar and space Jesus
@@BlazingUnicornbahhahahaha this bro😭😂
Patrick, I'm a big fan of yours and a big fan of electronic music. I love when you do videos about EDM. I'd love to see more content like this!
@@Theunicorn2012 you for real doing that to every comment?
@emiliomarbanjr it must be a bot, but I don't get what the benefit is of copy pasting comments like this?
2:50 is where the sponsor starts
3:54 is where we go back to the video
could almost not have even cared this video was about Marshmello, this was just a really well produced video. Appreciate it!
As a skrillix hater, of course he put everyone onto Marshmello.
RIP UK dubstep, listen to Burial
Iam glad that Mala showed me the real dubstep.
I’m big in the edm music fandom… have never heard a single person so he’s their favorite dj. Though at festivals, a lot of us enjoy his sets.
That's First 10 Seconds Roast Is Wild 💀
It's crazy how people used to press Twitch streamers for gamble and now almost everybody are promoting Underdog and other betting company. I know that those companies are not as bad as whatever they were promoting. That's the start
marshmello was peak 2016
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Happier made me cry
Well orchestrated business moves by Moe and Chris… whether you like Marshmello’s music or not you have to at the very least respect how monumental the Marshmello brand has become.
That said, I would like to see Mello give back to smaller up and coming artists more often, especially given the scale of his platform... Much love ❤
Please don't ever speak again.
More EDM deep dives please!! I was geeking this whole video! 😍 Well done!
Was suppose to see marshmallow live at beyond day 2 but it got canceled because of a shooting. Music bumps especially at festivals.
I really like this one! My only feedback is in the wrapup at the end, you posited EDM/dance music as a product. In my opinion this isn't true, because dance music/EDM is just like any other genre. It has its artists, its oddballs, its alternative producers, people who view their work as extremely unique and not a product.
EDM is just another genre of music, I think asserting that it is a product is reductive. Other than that I really liked the documentary!
I think he was saying that Marshmello doesn’t create art, but a product. EDM just made it easier due to its lack of vocals.
Yea but to say all of EDM doesn't have vocals is completely false. This dude clearly doesn't listen to enough EDM to know that. He lost me at the end. Hipster trashing EDM...no shocker there.
@@phabiorules
i think he just meant marshmellow himself makes it with the purpose of it being a product and making money. not edm itself of course.
Yeah I think he makes a weak point though. You can call any artist with a manager and a record label a “product” because it’s a capitalist economy and people have to make money, just like any other industry. That doesn’t mean the music isn’t still art, though it may make it less artistically enriched.
The “product not art” statement is a baseless claim that weakened the video if you ask me.
@@carsonlove531 you could say that, but the point that people make when they say that is the intention.
the company and usually the artist have the full intention of making a product, a line of products. they never intended to make art and will never make the sacrifices or risks that art entails. (im talking about pop mainly not indie/etc).
business inherently lacks some of the qualities of art.
you dont have to make money with music either.
Being a fan of Electronic Music & heavily invested in the scene from back in the late 2000s I definitely miss the social media days/"EDM twitter" back in 2013-2016 going down Soundcloud rabbit holes discovering lots of these artists you mentioned. And for the folks that were following all this stuff back in those days with all the names & labels mentioned like OWSLA, NestHQ & a bunch of others, within a few weeks Marshmello bursting onto the scene people quickly narrowed down the list to either Jauz or DOTCOM being Marshmello so that trick Tiesto pulled at EDC only really had shock value to the mainstage kids who had no clue of what was going on.
I liked a few of his first few tracks that had heavy bass elements but I wasn't too keen on the forced beef/drama he tried starting with household names like Deadmau5 & once he fully transitioned into a Pop brand & all the "Fortnite" stuff I completely checked out. It was obviously wild seeing DOTCOM go from an average remix producer/run of the mill DJ to a global brand in real time & good on him for his success but for many purists of the wide genre of Electronic music this was a signal of the direction the whole scene was headed in with lots of promising names & even some seasoned veterans completely ditching their own sub genres/sound & switching to generic Big Room/Mainstage sound or just straight up pop music which they were just doing to try & stay relevant with the growing crowd of "mainstage" fans attending the big EDM festivals.
I liked watching this cause it brought back a lot of memories & things I haven't really thought about in years tbh & you broke down a lot of the little details pretty well so even fans of this guy who may not have known his backstory can learn a few things about the scene in general.
Very nice guy. He hung out at our house till like 5am in STL after a show around 2016. He was super chill and genuinely likable and nice.
I'm a freshman in college and I've been listening to Marshmello since middle school. He definitely stands out in my playlist, but I just love the guy.
Edit: I also don't agree with your theory that Marshmello is actually multiple people, at least music-wise.
Kinda weird to self report you have a brain deformity but you do you boo
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@@Grizzly_21aye man, I like what I like.
@@zucumberzeez yeah fs man 🤨
@@maadkidgrow up
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Thank you. Those ads ruin his videos
I still listen to flash funk when I'm training. Loved his sets in 2017/2018
Didn’t expect to see you here Mike
Get into some Deadmau5 Mike he has so many sounds. Also talk about the Kevin Byard trade
Makes music for over a decade: nobody cares
Changes name and puts on a helmet: OMG INDISTRY PLANT
I met Dotcom in Philly when he was opening for Kapslap! Then I met Marshmello a couple years later and they sounded exactly the same in person! He's still a Goat and I always said he deserves more!
the last 30 seconds summed this video up pretty well. well said pat!
the last seconds summed this video up pretty well. well said pat!
@@Theunicorn2012oh you missed this one.
You forgot to mention the Coca-Cola exclusive Creations flavor they made for Marshmellow that confused everyone. It was in a tall white can, designed to look like a Marshmellow but tasted like Strawberry Kiwi. 😮
Yeah so multiple producers work on one project for the majority of popular releases. It’s pretty obvious Chris started the whole thing but this is just how the music industry works if you just wanna make pop music. No one person does everything at that level.
bless you for doing this
Glad you are covering some EDM stories, there are many to go after! Keep up the good work.
I enjoyed some of his work in 2017-2018. One song had the lyrics "i don't see the point in fighting" and i loved it.
Mid summer 2017 of marshmellow was epic lol, ahhh good times
love your videos and on THIS one because of all the heavy work i did in the dance scene, i coulda (on this one) given you alllll this info AND THEN SOME LOL. need anymore info on the edm scene. i got a ton of it lol. truly. this whole video i was made aware of alll of it in 2016/2017 haha. love the video still always love u work u kill it pat
Good to see someone talking about this world of music that actually has a decent understanding of it all.
Really good bro, enjoyed the truth I’ve been thinking about this for awhile now.
All of your content is so good. The way you talk is very calming and it's clear that you put a lot of effort and time to into researching your topic and also making it entertaining. Thank you. 🥰
I don't understand why he is taking shots in this video. Marshmello is great and only considered "generic" because he easily popularized that sound for mainstream future bass and trap. It isn't elitist to not like Marshmello, just douchy and hipster. I've listened to EDM regularly for over 10 years and a variety of genres. Marshmello is a legit good producer and his popularity speaks for itself.
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I don't understand why he is taking shots in this video. Marshmello is great and only considered "generic" because he easily popularized that sound for mainstream future bass and trap. It isn't elitist to not like Marshmello, just douchy and hipster. I've listened to EDM regularly for over 10 years and a variety of genres. Marshmello is a legit good producer and his popularity speaks for itself.
The only good Marshmello tracks are the ones with Svdden Death
Popularity doesn't mean much when your fans are children
@@elobiretv Are kids able to get through security at festivals, Vegas nightclubs, or concert halls? Not always. Why hate on a big fanbase? Mello is probably paving the way for the next-gen of ravers and EDM fans.