SDI is the one I'm tired of seeing shilled. I looked up their tuition and what was included when they first started advertising on UA-cam and that stank immediately.
I just don’t understand how one can reasonably, and logically, expect to learn actual gunsmithing with no direct professional oversight. The “at home” gunsmith training concept has been around for a very long time and I’ve never understood how people think it’s a good idea.
@@83Yankee some people do learn better from videos. I’m one of those. SDI is college credited so it’s not a complete waste. You get a rifle to build and all the tools to be a gunsmith. You could just buy all of that, but if you’re getting college for free, why not.
@fokker1138 just look at the ones out there working in the field soley with that as their background. Most youtubers have more knowledge and experience let alone the average gun owner. It's criminal to call them gunsmiths.
@@Ironsightmike, for sure, and I’m not trying to bash them as I have no idea the quality of their instruction/materials. My point was more of the lack of immediate feedback from an experienced professional. That is extremely difficult to do with any type of remote learning, especially if it’s a hands-on field.
Fuddbusters is S tier, pointing out bad gun design from gunsmithing pov. Very based. Very different from "muh gun shoot fast n i hit da 12 inch target at 5 yard" yt reviews.
@@Frank-bc8gg As an engineer myself that works with other engineers, their analysis of mechanical things is greater than the majority of engineers out there.
@@Frank-bc8gg Most engineers today operate on the motto of "if it ain't broke, take it apart and fix it"... Looking at you, SIG. My point is that despite apparent lack of degree, Ivan and that other guy on fuddbusters know their stuff better than most engineers.
Nutnfancy makes them look bad because his only money comes from Patreon, so he doesn’t mind saying a gun is trash if it’s trash. Plus he just borrows them from his friend’s gun shop, so he isn’t sent a hand-picked sample by the manufacturer.
He's the OG, still buys from local shops, and does months long testing and very and depth reviews. Not a whole lot of other channels can compete with that
Attention viewers, it is 100% your responsibility to vet any product you see a commercial for. I dont care if Jesus reads the ad, do your own research.
@@FocusTripp alright, maybe I went a little extreme. If Jesus is good with it, it's probably fine. This also doesn't excuse creators from going into business with shady companies.
@FocusTripp if Jesus would have a gun youtube channel, he would be the most honest, but also the most hated, so we can lear from this, what? Well if you are hated, you are doing something good, Focus Tripp is one hated gun youtuber ( hated by gun companies, and the their youtuber minions creators) so be smart with yout money people, because theres gun youtubers that alredy made millions from pushing 💩 products
Unrelated, but armed scholar irritates the hell out of me because of his pure clickbait video titles. I like his opinions and explanations on court cases, but refuse to watch his channel solely because of those titles.
People forget gun n gadgets was schilling for blackout coffee on his channel before he came out and said they "gave him part of the company" when he was a founder of it.
@@Jesusiskingamen7 I clicked on a toolbox video once. 20 something minutes long and the info I wanted out of it was buried all the way at the end while being less than a minute long.
I've never heard of PSA mistreating someone after putting about 3k rounds through a Dagger and about 10,000 dry fire without snap caps, I snapped the striker pin. Just like I did on my g19 gen 5. They didn't even ask for a photo. They just sent me a new one.
Thanks for critiquing the Liberty Lounge Podcast video. I listened to the video while playing a video game, and at the time, I felt something was off, but I couldn't point out anything specific.
The biggest problem I see with a shilling in this industry is the no refunds policy from gun and suppressor manufacturers.If you are unhappy with it after you purchase it you are stuck with it and if they still make it, you are only going to sell it at a loss, if it’s an NFA item You’re married to it. So you try to watch some UA-cam videos get an honest opinion before you buy, some shill tells you its great you spend your HARD EARNED money on it, and then you are very unhappy, And left to just take a loss and try another company crossing your fingers hoping that it doesn’t happen again.
PSA should spend less on R&D for new products and focus more on improving the products they are already making. They have a habit of starting new projects before finishing the ones they are working on.
It's possible that Garand Thumb just didn't do his due diligence and vet the advertisers you cited. It's fair to say that he should have vetted them before making & running the ads, but it's not fair to assume that he knew they were bad companies and made the ads anyway. If Leviathan set up the advertisers for him, then maybe GT was simply too trusting of Leviathan. Perhaps that's why he left "the tribe" after you raised the issue.
@@FocusTripp I'd say "naive" rather than "stupid." You seem to keep defaulting to the worst possible interpretation of everything. As with the previous video you made about this, I'd caution you to get all your ducks in a row and only state that which you know to be true. Speculating on someone's motives just because YOU knew that XYZ company was dirty is a good way to end up making a retraction later. Just some unsolicited advice from my own painful experiences.
@@rickh9396 Listen man naive is stupid in this situation when you have such a massive audience some of whom are vulnerable you have a responsibility to them to not be naive and to do your research, breaking a law you didn't know doesn't make it cool.
I’m personally on your side about reviewing the gun as is. But I understand that some people prefer to have the gun sent back before finishing the review.
Defective/damaged/used product returns can be a pain depending who you have to deal with. Midway USA for example is great but companies Optic Planet can make it a big lengthy hassle in my experience.
Yeah, I commented to the Liberty Lounge podcast that they got the "firearms industry is overly sensitive" argument wrong. I dropped the example of the gaming / PC hardware industry where the audience is very sensitive to paid shills.
A little late to the party, but whatever. As a guy thats into guns but comes from a BMX background and work in the cycling industry. Shills are everywhere.. in the form of “sponsorships” and brand ambassador types on instagram. Little kids fall for that stuff mostly, but it’s blatantly obvious when riders are pushing gimmicky/low quality product that they don’t truly believe in. And I draw a lot of parallels in the gun world. Being exposed to lame marketing for years has just honed in my autism senses.
What kills me everyone is always on Sigs cock hyping them up.. I have had more expensive firearms from them that haven’t worked than anyone else 516, MPX, 716, mosquito, all had major problems out the box.
RE: Liberty Lounge Podcast, anything ArmedScholar is in I immediately don't trust due to his absolutely brain dead and often borderline disingenuous takes.
I really miss him going on every Brass Facts PA optic review video and picking a fight in the comments because he was faced with valid criticisms instead of the usual fellation PA optics get from most "reviewers". Those were fun times.
@frankholub4673 even Focus Tripp mentioned Dimitri in a video , saying he was not ok with some of his "wording" about a one of their red dots or lpvo😂
I do fuddbusters for gun/law news, tfb showtime for commercials then do my own research, fuddblasters to see why guns suck, hop/brass/trip the rest of their ilk for reviews, and psr/garand thumb for fun. I've also been checking out controlled pairs faming recently. He's cool. But the most important thing I've said here is fuddbusters. Don't listen to clickbait lawers who put "end of NFA" in front of their videos every other day. Fuddbusters may not do this week in guns every week, but when he does shit, the info is good. Matt's argument for the bump stock case also straight up won at the supreme court, so he's better than the rest of these loser lawyers on UA-cam. I also saw someone recommend M26 lemon Grenade in the comments. Fuck that dude, he's too full of himself. I explained politely how he was incorrect in his video where he called 5.56 a poodle shooter, and he went off. Straight up deleted my comments when I made my case even more solid.
@@wilhathaway1987 his entire channel can be summed up as "only wasr is good AK, everything else is trash, and I can't take criticism even though I'm on social media saying very opinionated things"
In the last month I saw a lot of negative comments regarding those that hate the click baiting titles on the Armed Scholar videos. These were posting as replies to a video on a different channel and also posted in more than one discussion on Reddit. Click baiting title works to pull viewers. Many quickly get sick of the click baiting titles and videos that are updates on legal cases where they find there is really nothing new to report.
@TheKlamminator My comments that made him go off on me and start deleting shit were "No dude, 5.56 is great M855 just kinds sucks at wounding malnourished targets and Mk262 can suck at wounding malnourished targets." He responded with "Nuh uh, I was in the army." So I let him know I was in the army and someone who isn't willing to listen probably shouldn't teach. Then he started deleting my comments until he, as I just learned, turned them off.
I don't think you should have ended your affiliation. Just keep the honest reviews coming. You seem like a man of integrity, that's all that matters. If people would rather be butthurt, play games, or spend their time looking for weeds to try and get caught up in, that's on them. You, hop, brassfacts, and honest outlaw are about the only people who's word I take seriously. I do that aside from any drama, because I am not here for that. You give honest reviews in a ways that make it clear they are.
Honest Outlaw is a member of the Leviathan Group. He has provided some negative reviews. He also has mentioned Patreon supporters providing some of his reviewed firearms but he also releases reviews on new firearms within days of release so he does receive firearms from manufacturers. These firearms are likely thoroughly tested before being sent out to content creators for "review"/promotion. He had a positive review of the Canik MC9. Just checkout out the Canik subreddit for all the problems with that firearm for the first year of release. I think mostly eliminated the issue but some are still experiencing an issue with the larger of the two recoil springs. I bought one at the end of May and also had to get a new recoil spring assembly from Canik due to spring failure. Many of the Guntubers have posted positive reviews of the Canik Rival-S which had a magazine over-insertion issue for about the first year. The new Canik TTI is suffering with reliability issues to this day but the reviewers seem to all have received good copies of it. I don't mean to just pick on Canik but that is one that I follow as I really like my polymer Rival and do like my MC9 as long as the recoil spring lasts thousands of round rather than needing to be replaced every 500 rounds. My recoil spring fail within the first 110 rounds I fired at my first range trip.
@@PigPharmaceuticals I didn't say he wasn't. Even if FocusTripp joined Leviathan tomorrow I'd still trust his reviews until he gave me a reason not too.
*Gamer’s Nexus mentioned!!* 🗣️ Steve and friends do a great job with their channel. From their product testing and reviews to going after companies and holding them accountable for their shady business practices i.e. product defects, bad customer service, deceptive marketing, etc. Another great “hold them accountable” channel is Louis Rossmann! More tech oriented less gamer oriented but still giving people the awareness they need to be smart consumers.
Thank you for breaking this down. I watched that episode of Libery Lounge and it left me scratching my head for reasons I really didn't understand. Side note, the algorithm fully promotes entertainers who destroy stuff over the information based channels who teach you the subject matter from the ground up. For example, my wife was the first person to mention anything about whistling diesel's channel back in the day. She's a soccer mom who doesn't know anything about vehicles if there ever was one.
There is a lot of problems with gun industry practices that are serious. My former sister in law was getting her first handgun. For protection. She saw videos saying how reliable the high point 9mm is. Then she bought one. Took her concealed carry course, nobody there said anything about her choice because they dont actually teach how to conceal a handgun. Just subject you to 8 hours of telling you that you cant shoot anyone for any reason whatsoever. Then have you fire a few rounds at 5 yards. Then the gun had problems. She mentions it to her sister. She tells her she should call her ex, me, because my sole hobby is guns. What's worse is she has the money to buy a high end 1911. But she heard from the people who take the "its the shooter, not the gun" and "you're just paying for the brand" way too far. She didnt know any better. When she called me i rounded up all my pistols and borrowed some from a few friends that are popular that i dont have but have no problem recommending. Glock would be one. Got a Glock 34 for her to try out. Was going to suggest the 19 if she found the Glock appealing. I also wanted to try out my S&W 29 while we were out there since she knew how to be safe and load mags. She liked my Beretta 92 a lot. But did not want to deal with remembering to decock it after smoking someone. Then we tried the Glock. We found a winner. She also wanted the 34. She liked the looks of it. Showed her pics of rhe other sizes and she didnt like them. Except the 17L. When i started shooting my .44 she was also intrigued. I had a box of mags and specials. She wanted to shoot it. The specials in that thing are really smooth. She ran a few cylinders and liked it. She also heard she should get a shotgun for hkme defense. Her brother has one. She shot it before. Shes 4ft 11 and can barely reach the slide handle which meant the recoil was going to be severe. She asked about that 44 being a suitable replacement for a shotgun. I explained for intimidation it is and it is more powerful than a 9mm. So shes got two guns shes going to go buy. A S&W 629 full underlug 6.5" barrel and a Glock 34. We also split the box of mags. I told her it will be a slap into the back of the hand that isnt pleasant with some increased muzzle lift. She fired one round and thought it was the coolest thing she ever did. Then emptied out a few more cylinders of them. 240gr ammo. Hit targets just fine. She goes to the store and tells them exactly what she wants. All she gets is "you really want the Glock 19" and "you want this 2".38 if you want a revolver" followed by "whoever suggested these guns for you is a fucking moron" . What she was dealing with is a Fudd. The kind who thinks the 6" .44 is cool unless someone else wants one and whos tactical knowledge is Glock 19, Glock 19, Glock 19, Glock 19. I have a a 2" Smith 438 .38. I didnt bring it for a reason. She eventually tried it with some +p loads and didnt like that gun at all on top of not not hitting shit with it. I didn't want to put her through my gun buying process. Which is a friend of mine with FFL in another state shipped to my gunsmith to do the transfer. Thought she would be good going to a retail store. She's also pretty hot. So after irritating her with not getting her what she wanted he asked for her number. She was pissed and i told her i would handle getting the guns and she just needs to show up and do paperwork and pay when they come in. My gunsmith doesn't stock anything but gunsmith stuff. Hes very busy fixing, installing, and customization. But finds transfers to be worth his time. She goes to pick up her used S&W 629 and her NIB Glock 34. Then tells me how helpful my gunsmith was and also how he hot. He looks like Rob Lowe. So hes a looker. He hits me up asking about her. They been together for over 2 years now lol. Happy ending. But look what it took just to get her the guns she wanted, that would work fine for what she wanted, that she already tried out. Though not cookie cutter as to what she was supposed to get. All i had to say to her was "Hey he likes you to, called me and asked about you" and boom shes got a what looks to be a lasting romantic relationship. She puts effort into her looks. Makes good money. Wanted a guy who did the same that and has makes enough money to not need hers as well as posessing some other basic adult attributes. Not easy to find. But apparently easier than just getting a gun for self defense with all the bullshit advice and "im so badass i dont need a gun that is actually going to work to win a gunfight" claims from someone who's never experienced the shakes due to a situation getting outright confrontational trying to pass themselves off as someone who simply no longer gets them after multiple experiences.
I use an ad blocker to avoid the disgusting YT videos and scroll forward on Jared's and other's in video ads to get to the content. Seeing the same adds on many of the Leviathan Group channels the same week just makes it all the more obvious what is going on.
We need to understand that they are being paid, we need to do our own research on purchasing anything. I like most of those guys but we have to appreciate what everyone has to offer. Some have more than others.
There is a difference between making money doing what you do(reviewing) and being paid to lie and/or promote and peddle trash. A good example is Honest Outlaw vs 704 Tactical. Or FocusTripp vs MAC.
The heavyset guy in the black cap on the left is notorious for posting clickbait titles on his videos. It's something he started doing later in this YT career. I had to dip on his channel; sh!t was super annoying. That aside, this was a great stream/vid. Well done, and thank you.
I knew there was a reason I liked your channel, beyond the great content, I too don't drink, smoke, or do drugs. Never have never will. Another great video!!!
“Only in the firearms world do people freak out if somebody makes money.” Even if that was true, shilling a gun that is used for protecting life and shilling a razor that is used for shaving your scrotum aren’t exactly on the same level. Gun content has a higher expectation of honesty, due to the serious use case and serious consequences of poor quality.
Oh look it's the Larry, Moe, and Curly of Guntubers. "This video is brought to you by our friends at CMMG" or "Ground breaking ruling with angry Joe Biden thumbnail"
PSA actually failed to sell me a PA-10, and I believe they lied to me after they messed up. The summary of my experience with them is on my Google review, but it's actually worse than what I said in that review. I left out some of my frustrations with them due to the fact that the review was already TLDR. My problem with them doesn't even get into the quality of their products, because they messed up so badly that they actually didn't sell me anything. I went a block down the road and had a much better experience getting my very first firearm. I live about 15 minutes from their factory in SC, so I'm talking about an experience at their main company store nearest to their factory.
This may be addressed later in the video, but I have one of these pieces of shit, and it’s abysmal garbage. The Jakl is arguably one of the worst performing and designed rifles I’ve ever handled, and that’s saying something. Poverty State Armory sent me some parts when I originally reported an issue to their customer service, to home gunsmith their products myself I guess, when I originally reported the issue of it not cycling subsonic 300blk even when suppressed, and even with the 20 or whatever gas block positions it has. I replaced the parts and it still didn’t fix the issue. So they demanded I sent it back so they could assess it and fix it. So I did that, and it’s been 14 months since I had it returned to me where DPMS, where it was sent to for warranty work, tested and sent it back to me with the claim they tested it completely, found absolutely zero issues, and said it was good to go. I went and tested it because I knew they were full of it, and of course it didn’t cycle still, and it had developed this new issue where the charging handle/charging handle sled would bind up as the weapon was charged, and stick causing this weird malfunction where I had to manually cycle it to get the bolt to go home. This also happened intermittently during firing, when I could get it to cycle. I reported to Poverty State Armory’s customer service it still has the same issue, as well as a new issue. They demanded video evidence. Ok, so I again went out, on my own dime, to test it and take video of the issues. I sent those videos to them, and their customer support team seemed confused, sent a bunch of monkey noises back to me via email, CSR-splained me how silencers work, and demanded I send it back again, only this time they demanded I send it with my Surefire RC2. They wanted to know what ammo I was using, or have used. They were shocked to find out it was their AAC ammo in the video, but that I’ve tried nearly all the subsonic 300blk I could find. Turns out, they tested it with supersonic ammo only, and it was working great, and they couldn’t figure out why I was bothering them or what my problem was. When I started asking questions and informed them that no, I will not be sending a multimillion dollar firearms manufacturing company one of the most commonly available silencers in circulation, that evidently they didn’t have and couldn’t get on their own, for them to use it to do whatever they wanted to do with it for some undetermined amount of time, they completely ghosted me. I also asked why I would send it back, with my silencer, when they couldn’t bother to even address the issues I originally reported and sent in for warranty work the first time. I told the CSR folks I didn’t understand why they needed it a second time to assess and repair something they clearly ignored the first time. I didn’t understand why they didn’t check the issues I was having the first time I sent it all the way back, and I’ve yet to receive an answer as to why that happened. In fact, they didn’t have any answers to these questions. I tried emailing for an update and a response to the questions and concerns I raised, and got nothing. I tried calling twice and the CSR’s who answered the phone complimented me on my patience and grammatical acumen, and promised to have some sort of manager or supervisor call me or email me, and in 10 months, I’ve received absolutely nothing. No more emails or phone calls at all. I purchased the Jakl in February of 23, and as the minute of this comment, it’s still garbage. So I basically have a $1200 paperweight that I’m essentially stuck with because I can’t in good conscience sell it to some other poor sucker. So it hangs on the wall as a tribute to the stupidity of Poverty State Armory, as well as to myself for knowing better and doing it anyways, and so I can use it to teach these lessons to others. At this point I’m sure PSA isn’t going to fix it, because they’re clearly too inept to figure it out, and there’s zero chance they return my money, as it’s going well past a year and a half since I purchased this piece of shit, and I can’t even get an email back. I’m sick of these fuckin room temperature IQ plebs and their asinine and illogical copium responses in defense of these business practices. It needs to stop.
I have always enjoyed your videos. My issue with you continuing down this path makes you appear butt hurt over them dropping you. Not saying it’s the case, but you continue to put out this bashing content and bashing anyone that may think differently than you. I just feel(not that you care or should) that you would be better off just moving on. You should point out things you find wrong with any product you review. You should also, give your constructive criticism directly to the companies producing products you review.
He’s a trend setter. Haven’t you noticed the shift on UA-cam since he started this? He’s building trust with us, I just hope it pays off for him in the long run.
I am mostly responding to their arguments, which suck. Calling out bad actors has to happen so companies are forced to respond to public pressure by improving their products.
@@FocusTripp agree! Wish companies would work with people like yourself and work to improve their processes! Keep up the good reviews man! That is your bread and butter!
This is why I stopped buying years ago and started building at least then its usually my own damn fault when the gun sucks. The sad reality is almost everything has already been an AR-18 since the AR-15. Nearly all reasons why you buy a weapon now it's based upon caliper or comfort (which is fine I'm just a nerd) There are people pushing the technology forward though, just not enough of the big guys. They are still releasing models designed in the fifties and sixties. Imagine if dewalt barely updated, their impact drivers from the original model. That's kinda how I feel about things like rugers barely changing over the years. To each their own though. I don't think anyone remembers it's supposed to come out eventually, but I really hope Franklin Armory releases the providence series within the next 10 years
FocusTripp THANK YOU for exposing all of this. Its fine to make money but people deserve truth. As for PSA they jerked me around for months. This was years ago. I promised to troll them forever. The most important point you made to me was that guntubers warranty experience can very well be a much different experience then the average off the street person. This is a company who deletes bad reviews and then pays people to say nice things about them. After your critical review of the Jackal the psa community united via their forum to attack you. I do not understand how they can blindly support such an awful company. Sheeple. A recent SOTAR video autopsy of two psa uppers received a similar response. Apparently truth is a trigger. Morons! Come at me man! (Psa fanbois)
Not shocking at all, scummy companies will purposefully try to give you a better experience than the average customer for good looks, if im going to say good about something the customer experience for the average person matters alot
Call me crazy but I'll trust a small youtuber channel review on a gun/gun related product over a big youtube channel that has a studio big enough for Hollywood and a graphics team advanced enough to fake the moon landings.
My buddy constantly copes about PSA by saying “but they have a really good warranty” and I always say “if your main argument for buying a company’s product is that they have a good warranty then you need to reevaluate your priorities”
Dont know if it gets mentioned, as I'm not done with the video yet but I saw an article that said GT had left Leviathan. Id say when your under contract with them, you dont always have a choice in what advertising gets shoveled on you.
Yeah it really isn’t a good look for them. Kinda stopped watching their channels a while ago bc they fell out of my algorithm. Probably won’t watch much more of them other than Jared’s breaking info on stuff pertaining to gun laws but even then, there’s other sources. Great informative stream.
Also, anytime someone does a paid ad I pretty much know to ignore them because they’re bought and paid for opinions. I do get that not everyone gets that tho. I think there was a channel who admitted that whenever something is a paid ad just know to take it as not their opinion on the product and I kinda appreciated that and kinda had that as the moment it clicked it’s like that for all channels.
@@FocusTripp my command had Rocky S2V boots for VBSS. They have a sole that is better in slippery environments, a shank in the sole and composite hard toes. The best quality.
Yeah, this doesn't make sense to me. I've had issues. Kel-Tec was nice to me. PSA has been nice to me. Everybody's been very nice to me, so I think you guys are......I don't know what to say
I guess if your paid to review and the product sucks, you should just send it back and not release a video. You should also tell the manufacturer the problems. I'd prefer you tell your audience the truth, but I'd prefer a reviewer's silence over a lie.
I have a PSA AR pistol. At about 750 rounds it’s still functioning fine. I’m not much of a rifle guy…I prefer my Benelli and Beretta shotguns, but the PSA is fine for what I do with it…which is just as a range toy. Having said that, every firearm that leaves the manufacturer needs to function as designed. QC should be a very high priority, and while PSA seems to have gotten better, it’s just not their top priority. Quantity has a quality of its own, I suppose. I don’t consider the PSA brand the “go to” company for quality. In fact, I’d be hesitant to depend on their Glock-clone “Dagger” lineup, and we all know Glock made a reliable design.
Regarding holding onto a bad product vs sending it back. I think this does not have to be an "either hold onto it and tell everyone about the issues" or "send it back and don't tell anyone" binary. Recently @RTTGunsGear did a video of his experience with the combat armory Glock clone full pistol. He ran into a ton of issues but then worked with the company to get it working. His review video showed all of the issues and the overall tone of the video was matter of fact. In the end, the pistol worked but it was also clear how much pain someone had to put up with in order to get what they should have had from the start: a working gun. All that to say, i would love to see a similar video for the jakl (or any other product). I'm not saying you have to do this I'm just saying that those videos (to me) are some of the most informative about what a company is actually made of.
@@FocusTripp (please forgive me if it seems like I'm putting words in your mouth; i am not trying to. I am a regular watcher of your channel. I'm trying to contribute to the discussion NOT label you as a "big meanie" or anything like that) Some of the comments from viewers seem (and of course i cannot read their minds) like they think you are not being courteous to at least engage with PSA to try to make it right. From watching your coverage of the jakl issues and people's arguments to "send it back and let PSA fix it" it seems like you are opposed to that because (among other things) it will essentially destroy the evidence of a bad product's existence (again, if that is not your point then i am sorry for not fully understanding). I'm saying that is a false binary. @RTTGunsGear (with the aforementioned review) showed how you can showcase a product's faults while also working with the company to make it right. In his case, no evidence was concealed by sending the product back because he documented the whole thing. (Please don't take this next part as me hating on you; I'm just trying to point a way to maybe make things better.) If you took the same approach with the jakl then maybe you would establish a relationship with psa such that you could ask them the biting question that you otherwise are forced to speculate about: "how many of these defective products are out there and what are you (PSA) going to do about it?"
@rsagmil I generally try to give the company the benefit of the doubt. Of course if something like an optic loses zero during my destructive testing, the viewers will see it in real time. If a firearm has a problem, and the manufacturer fixes it, I do the review with the repaired firearm but let the viewer know what happened. And in cases like the CA pistol, I also was able to record the issue and the viewer also got to see it. Honesty is paramount. I'll watch a crappy video recorded with a potato if it is informative and honest, over a fancy video from someone who relies on showmanship and comes across as just a 10 min ad.
@@RTTGunsGear yes. I really liked that video. I would be very interested in a similar video from @FocusTripp where he (publicly) engaged with PSA to get the jakl fixed as opposed to what appears (to me, a viewer with not all of the info) to be a "no way I'll send it back because that will conceal faults by psa" attitude (again, if I'm misrepresenting something then i am sorry). A video like that would benefit all customers because either PSA would fix their issues (including other impacted customers) or show that they don't actually care. However, I'm afraid too many bridges have been burned already so i wouldn't be surprised if psa didn't want anything to do with this.
@rsagmil I had an issue with PSA, and I did not get a friendly response at all. This was 6 or 7 years ago. That's honestly one company that I'll never give the benefit of the doubt just due to my past experiences. Two junk rifles. Horrible customer service. And a smear campaign organized by one of their employees through their FB group page. But I've also never hidden my disdain for PSA either. I understand where you're coming from though. Personally, I like Focus Tripp's videos. Again..honesty is paramount to me. And while some may not like exactly the way he does things. I don't think anyone can accuse John of being bought or dishonest. Not saying you are saying that.
There are so many that may look good due to reviews and get paid, but dont produce negatibe reviews or not all.of them. They still get paid but dawg a conpany or discuss the issues. Sometimes send it back for fixes amd after months and multiple reviews they only go public with the final review and not entirely authentic...lots of half truths without the full details and viewerrs get bamboozled
I'm a big fan of psa, that being said, you should test out whatever rifle you buy, especially if it's cheap. I bought a psa gen 3 ar10, before mods and scope it only ran me about 900 wich is dirt cheap for an ar10. I shot about 200 rounds through it and the adjustment screw on the adjustable gas block came loose and the gun stopped functioning properly. I tossed it and replaced it with a standard gas block, since then, I've put over 2k rounds through it. Now it functions flawlessly, shoots smooth and is sub moa with match grade ammo all day.
First off the JAKL needs some serious refinement, I own one (but with a MI folding stock) and though it’s been reliable I have a few concerns with fit/finish and design direction. Second the only videos Grand Thumb produces that are worth your time is his survival videos. I think they play too many video games or cater to kids that do, hurts the reputation and credibility of the info he’s posting. Glad someone is pointing this all out.
Its sad that yourubers conprimaze so much on life saving devices (like guns in this case ) and push 💩 products to people that put their life trust in them!! Thats why there only only verry few, once again, verry few youtubes that are genuine in their reviews, on top of my list is you my man! Focuse Trip is the snitzel !
I completely agree that in reviews and things that are made to appear opinion based, people should be held accountable. As far as pure ad reads, I mean pure ad reads, people shouldn't be held accountable. It's pretty obvious the difference between the two. The consumers hand shouldn't be held. If you think a pill can get you to grow a big d*CK, then you should have your money taken from you, there's a lesson there. This is really directed at people who shit on the unsubscribe guys like Herrera, Eli, donut and the like, they've even put out episodes saying that their ads are purely that (have apologized for a couple, which they shouldn't have had to). Again this goes for purely and obvious ad reads, not opinion based reviews, reviews should never be monetarily biased, that's immoral
SDI is the one I'm tired of seeing shilled. I looked up their tuition and what was included when they first started advertising on UA-cam and that stank immediately.
I just don’t understand how one can reasonably, and logically, expect to learn actual gunsmithing with no direct professional oversight. The “at home” gunsmith training concept has been around for a very long time and I’ve never understood how people think it’s a good idea.
Gi bill farming is how I saw them described
@@83Yankee some people do learn better from videos. I’m one of those. SDI is college credited so it’s not a complete waste. You get a rifle to build and all the tools to be a gunsmith. You could just buy all of that, but if you’re getting college for free, why not.
@fokker1138 just look at the ones out there working in the field soley with that as their background. Most youtubers have more knowledge and experience let alone the average gun owner. It's criminal to call them gunsmiths.
@@Ironsightmike, for sure, and I’m not trying to bash them as I have no idea the quality of their instruction/materials. My point was more of the lack of immediate feedback from an experienced professional. That is extremely difficult to do with any type of remote learning, especially if it’s a hands-on field.
That gay dude trying to imitate gay voice with no change in tone is fucking hilarious
It's the same picture.
i didnt even watch and im guessing its that johnny guy. giga fruity
"Levithan tribe is...a little on the nose".
I noticed. 😂
Fuddbusters is S tier, pointing out bad gun design from gunsmithing pov. Very based. Very different from "muh gun shoot fast n i hit da 12 inch target at 5 yard" yt reviews.
FUUDDO BLASTAS 💖💋
Woah based
they're psudes and not engineers by a long shot. Entertaining but they're just some goofballs having a good time
@@Frank-bc8gg As an engineer myself that works with other engineers, their analysis of mechanical things is greater than the majority of engineers out there.
@@Frank-bc8gg Most engineers today operate on the motto of "if it ain't broke, take it apart and fix it"... Looking at you, SIG.
My point is that despite apparent lack of degree, Ivan and that other guy on fuddbusters know their stuff better than most engineers.
Nutnfancy is the OG
Is that why guntubers never mention nutnfancy? They are all big mad at him for calling them out
Nutnfancy makes them look bad because his only money comes from Patreon, so he doesn’t mind saying a gun is trash if it’s trash. Plus he just borrows them from his friend’s gun shop, so he isn’t sent a hand-picked sample by the manufacturer.
He's the OG, still buys from local shops, and does months long testing and very and depth reviews.
Not a whole lot of other channels can compete with that
Yep
Attention viewers, it is 100% your responsibility to vet any product you see a commercial for.
I dont care if Jesus reads the ad, do your own research.
@@JC-gs3br Heresy, if Jesus says buy, we buy.
@@FocusTripp alright, maybe I went a little extreme. If Jesus is good with it, it's probably fine.
This also doesn't excuse creators from going into business with shady companies.
Amen fellas. Amen.
@@JC-gs3br Trust in the One and only Creator. Jesus
@FocusTripp if Jesus would have a gun youtube channel, he would be the most honest, but also the most hated, so we can lear from this, what? Well if you are hated, you are doing something good, Focus Tripp is one hated gun youtuber ( hated by gun companies, and the their youtuber minions creators) so be smart with yout money people, because theres gun youtubers that alredy made millions from pushing 💩 products
Guitar youtubers have been called out for a lot of this stuff. Most reviews are not reviews but demonstrations.
Same deal, you notice reviews of one product being released simultaneously too from multiple channels.
I’d venture to say it’s even worse in guitar UA-cam. Even the people most responsible for the problem are calling it out now. Fluff comes to mind.
@@donewithmodernlife I thought about him as well.. and agufish.
Unrelated, but armed scholar irritates the hell out of me because of his pure clickbait video titles. I like his opinions and explanations on court cases, but refuse to watch his channel solely because of those titles.
People forget gun n gadgets was schilling for blackout coffee on his channel before he came out and said they "gave him part of the company" when he was a founder of it.
The fact that anyone would work with armed scholar is sad. That guy is a joke.
That one guy in the red hat and the tactical tool box cat are straight dorks 😂
Yea toolbox dude I can’t watch anymore. But red hat guy? Whose that?
@@Jesusiskingamen7 I clicked on a toolbox video once. 20 something minutes long and the info I wanted out of it was buried all the way at the end while being less than a minute long.
Armed scholar is like listening to a car salesmen try to run for office.
I've never heard of PSA mistreating someone after putting about 3k rounds through a Dagger and about 10,000 dry fire without snap caps, I snapped the striker pin. Just like I did on my g19 gen 5. They didn't even ask for a photo. They just sent me a new one.
Thanks for critiquing the Liberty Lounge Podcast video.
I listened to the video while playing a video game, and at the time, I felt something was off, but I couldn't point out anything specific.
It's the ones hosting it...
Johnny B is permanently stuck in pride month
😂
Johnny B is a clown. A "guntuber" who just makes "spicy" meme reviews.
The biggest problem I see with a shilling in this industry is the no refunds policy from gun and suppressor manufacturers.If you are unhappy with it after you purchase it you are stuck with it and if they still make it, you are only going to sell it at a loss, if it’s an NFA item You’re married to it. So you try to watch some UA-cam videos get an honest opinion before you buy, some shill tells you its great you spend your HARD EARNED money on it, and then you are very unhappy, And left to just take a loss and try another company crossing your fingers hoping that it doesn’t happen again.
PSA should spend less on R&D for new products and focus more on improving the products they are already making. They have a habit of starting new projects before finishing the ones they are working on.
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@@FocusTrippNay....1000%
Yes, I read that they had issues with a prior rifle that they eventually fixed and also read a lot of reports with their pistols.
Its downright insane that people are still doing Better Help sponsorships. The company got exposed back in like 2016/17.
What a cliffhanger! 😅
Laviation tribe “on the nose” LMAO!
It's possible that Garand Thumb just didn't do his due diligence and vet the advertisers you cited. It's fair to say that he should have vetted them before making & running the ads, but it's not fair to assume that he knew they were bad companies and made the ads anyway. If Leviathan set up the advertisers for him, then maybe GT was simply too trusting of Leviathan. Perhaps that's why he left "the tribe" after you raised the issue.
@@rickh9396 possibly, still comes back to the top though. Unfortunately take your pick of stupid or evil
@@FocusTripp I'd say "naive" rather than "stupid." You seem to keep defaulting to the worst possible interpretation of everything. As with the previous video you made about this, I'd caution you to get all your ducks in a row and only state that which you know to be true. Speculating on someone's motives just because YOU knew that XYZ company was dirty is a good way to end up making a retraction later. Just some unsolicited advice from my own painful experiences.
@@rickh9396 Listen man naive is stupid in this situation when you have such a massive audience some of whom are vulnerable you have a responsibility to them to not be naive and to do your research, breaking a law you didn't know doesn't make it cool.
@@FocusTrippyour stupid if you think one mistake makes someone evil, what a clown
Definitely evil @@FocusTripp
I’m personally on your side about reviewing the gun as is.
But I understand that some people prefer to have the gun sent back before finishing the review.
@@RenoMay I think both are fine. Just be honest. There is some benefit to being quick however and letting the customer know about issues
It should work out of the box. If it doesn't it sucks.
Integrity. It's in short supply these days. Keep up the good fight, brother! Thanks for the share!!
Defective/damaged/used product returns can be a pain depending who you have to deal with. Midway USA for example is great but companies Optic Planet can make it a big lengthy hassle in my experience.
exactly
Armed scholar takes click bait to another level
BREAKING NEWS
@@FocusTripp grifter vibes for sure.
@@FocusTripp BIG WIN!
There's also an art to letting the people know the gun is a piece of crap while not disrespecting the manufacturer. Some tubers are very good at it.
Definitely could be done nicer.
Whenever influence is exchanged for funds it should be highly scrutinized.
agreed
Yeah, I commented to the Liberty Lounge podcast that they got the "firearms industry is overly sensitive" argument wrong. I dropped the example of the gaming / PC hardware industry where the audience is very sensitive to paid shills.
Gamer gate was not only a thing in the video game industry but it arguably effected American culture
Bro, gamergate and the great meme wars led to Trump’s first presidency. It was a huge cultural moment.
It never ended.
Commenting for the sweet sweet engagement metrics.
(and that it's nice to see honest reviews)
“ It was within spec.” That’s what you’ll hear when you send it back to the manufacturer to be repaired under said lifetime warranty
LOL. Pretty sure PSA blocked me on IG for tagging FocusTripp on their recent QAQC videos 😅
Boss move 💪🏻 its ok , dont care
These two boomer shills are cracking me up, pure evil
I only watch youtube reviews to see what's new. Time and high round counts are the real test.
45:58 biggest baby boomer response ever. “Im not a dishonest piece of slime, youre just weak!”
A little late to the party, but whatever. As a guy thats into guns but comes from a BMX background and work in the cycling industry. Shills are everywhere.. in the form of “sponsorships” and brand ambassador types on instagram. Little kids fall for that stuff mostly, but it’s blatantly obvious when riders are pushing gimmicky/low quality product that they don’t truly believe in. And I draw a lot of parallels in the gun world.
Being exposed to lame marketing for years has just honed in my autism senses.
Should I buy a Sunday model C or is Sunday trash ?
Sunday is the shit @@lemniscatelogos7917
What kills me everyone is always on Sigs cock hyping them up.. I have had more expensive firearms from them that haven’t worked than anyone else 516, MPX, 716, mosquito, all had major problems out the box.
Sig has the worst gen 1s in existence.
@@FocusTripp They sure as hell do… and will never admit when they f up.
Absolutely Sig is way over rated. Not worth the money.
RE: Liberty Lounge Podcast, anything ArmedScholar is in I immediately don't trust due to his absolutely brain dead and often borderline disingenuous takes.
Speaking about sensitive companies, you should see how sensitive Dimitri, the owner of Primary Arms is 🤦🏻🤣🤣 he picks on every word 😂😂
I really miss him going on every Brass Facts PA optic review video and picking a fight in the comments because he was faced with valid criticisms instead of the usual fellation PA optics get from most "reviewers". Those were fun times.
@frankholub4673 even Focus Tripp mentioned Dimitri in a video , saying he was not ok with some of his "wording" about a one of their red dots or lpvo😂
Dimitri owns ACSS, not Primary Arms. He is very defensive about his stuff which makes him pick fights he can't win.
@FocusTripp thank you for clarification, i didemt know that
Overly sensitive? It’s called false advertising.
I do fuddbusters for gun/law news, tfb showtime for commercials then do my own research, fuddblasters to see why guns suck, hop/brass/trip the rest of their ilk for reviews, and psr/garand thumb for fun. I've also been checking out controlled pairs faming recently. He's cool. But the most important thing I've said here is fuddbusters. Don't listen to clickbait lawers who put "end of NFA" in front of their videos every other day. Fuddbusters may not do this week in guns every week, but when he does shit, the info is good. Matt's argument for the bump stock case also straight up won at the supreme court, so he's better than the rest of these loser lawyers on UA-cam. I also saw someone recommend M26 lemon Grenade in the comments. Fuck that dude, he's too full of himself. I explained politely how he was incorrect in his video where he called 5.56 a poodle shooter, and he went off. Straight up deleted my comments when I made my case even more solid.
M26 is a 🤡, the dude can’t take or handle criticism. That’s why he turns his comments off.
@@wilhathaway1987 You gotta be fucking with me. Imma check. If you're not lying, that's the funniest thing I've seen in a minute.
@@wilhathaway1987 his entire channel can be summed up as "only wasr is good AK, everything else is trash, and I can't take criticism even though I'm on social media saying very opinionated things"
In the last month I saw a lot of negative comments regarding those that hate the click baiting titles on the Armed Scholar videos. These were posting as replies to a video on a different channel and also posted in more than one discussion on Reddit. Click baiting title works to pull viewers. Many quickly get sick of the click baiting titles and videos that are updates on legal cases where they find there is really nothing new to report.
@TheKlamminator My comments that made him go off on me and start deleting shit were "No dude, 5.56 is great M855 just kinds sucks at wounding malnourished targets and Mk262 can suck at wounding malnourished targets." He responded with "Nuh uh, I was in the army." So I let him know I was in the army and someone who isn't willing to listen probably shouldn't teach. Then he started deleting my comments until he, as I just learned, turned them off.
"I think its only in th gun world were having to have these conversations" is blatantly dishonest
I don't think you should have ended your affiliation. Just keep the honest reviews coming. You seem like a man of integrity, that's all that matters. If people would rather be butthurt, play games, or spend their time looking for weeds to try and get caught up in, that's on them.
You, hop, brassfacts, and honest outlaw are about the only people who's word I take seriously. I do that aside from any drama, because I am not here for that. You give honest reviews in a ways that make it clear they are.
Honest Outlaw is also leviathan.
Honest Outlaw is a member of the Leviathan Group. He has provided some negative reviews. He also has mentioned Patreon supporters providing some of his reviewed firearms but he also releases reviews on new firearms within days of release so he does receive firearms from manufacturers. These firearms are likely thoroughly tested before being sent out to content creators for "review"/promotion. He had a positive review of the Canik MC9. Just checkout out the Canik subreddit for all the problems with that firearm for the first year of release. I think mostly eliminated the issue but some are still experiencing an issue with the larger of the two recoil springs. I bought one at the end of May and also had to get a new recoil spring assembly from Canik due to spring failure. Many of the Guntubers have posted positive reviews of the Canik Rival-S which had a magazine over-insertion issue for about the first year. The new Canik TTI is suffering with reliability issues to this day but the reviewers seem to all have received good copies of it. I don't mean to just pick on Canik but that is one that I follow as I really like my polymer Rival and do like my MC9 as long as the recoil spring lasts thousands of round rather than needing to be replaced every 500 rounds. My recoil spring fail within the first 110 rounds I fired at my first range trip.
I no longer need to work with them so I won't.
@@FocusTripp I understand. My point was more that I trust you to be honest and maintain integrity regardless.
@@PigPharmaceuticals I didn't say he wasn't. Even if FocusTripp joined Leviathan tomorrow I'd still trust his reviews until he gave me a reason not too.
I have only had one issue with a PSA product, and they took care of it quickly, and I am a nobody other than being a repeat customer.
*Gamer’s Nexus mentioned!!* 🗣️
Steve and friends do a great job with their channel. From their product testing and reviews to going after companies and holding them accountable for their shady business practices i.e. product defects, bad customer service, deceptive marketing, etc. Another great “hold them accountable” channel is Louis Rossmann! More tech oriented less gamer oriented but still giving people the awareness they need to be smart consumers.
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@@FocusTrippRossman is the exact type of angry old man won't put up with bullshit type of guy we need much more of.
Thank you for breaking this down. I watched that episode of Libery Lounge and it left me scratching my head for reasons I really didn't understand.
Side note, the algorithm fully promotes entertainers who destroy stuff over the information based channels who teach you the subject matter from the ground up. For example, my wife was the first person to mention anything about whistling diesel's channel back in the day. She's a soccer mom who doesn't know anything about vehicles if there ever was one.
Absolutely. The algo pushes entertainment and retention above all.
3 plump goatee men talking can't be right lmao
Haha! I just got a BetterHelp ad on this video!
Are you kidding me...
@@FocusTripp Dead serious, and the acrtress looked liike she was maybe 14 years old. I didn't see any disclosures about child labor.
@@GBGuns damn, should have taken a screenshot
There is a lot of problems with gun industry practices that are serious. My former sister in law was getting her first handgun. For protection. She saw videos saying how reliable the high point 9mm is. Then she bought one. Took her concealed carry course, nobody there said anything about her choice because they dont actually teach how to conceal a handgun. Just subject you to 8 hours of telling you that you cant shoot anyone for any reason whatsoever. Then have you fire a few rounds at 5 yards. Then the gun had problems. She mentions it to her sister. She tells her she should call her ex, me, because my sole hobby is guns. What's worse is she has the money to buy a high end 1911. But she heard from the people who take the "its the shooter, not the gun" and "you're just paying for the brand" way too far. She didnt know any better. When she called me i rounded up all my pistols and borrowed some from a few friends that are popular that i dont have but have no problem recommending. Glock would be one. Got a Glock 34 for her to try out. Was going to suggest the 19 if she found the Glock appealing. I also wanted to try out my S&W 29 while we were out there since she knew how to be safe and load mags. She liked my Beretta 92 a lot. But did not want to deal with remembering to decock it after smoking someone. Then we tried the Glock. We found a winner. She also wanted the 34. She liked the looks of it. Showed her pics of rhe other sizes and she didnt like them. Except the 17L. When i started shooting my .44 she was also intrigued. I had a box of mags and specials. She wanted to shoot it. The specials in that thing are really smooth. She ran a few cylinders and liked it. She also heard she should get a shotgun for hkme defense. Her brother has one. She shot it before. Shes 4ft 11 and can barely reach the slide handle which meant the recoil was going to be severe. She asked about that 44 being a suitable replacement for a shotgun. I explained for intimidation it is and it is more powerful than a 9mm. So shes got two guns shes going to go buy. A S&W 629 full underlug 6.5" barrel and a Glock 34. We also split the box of mags. I told her it will be a slap into the back of the hand that isnt pleasant with some increased muzzle lift. She fired one round and thought it was the coolest thing she ever did. Then emptied out a few more cylinders of them. 240gr ammo. Hit targets just fine. She goes to the store and tells them exactly what she wants. All she gets is "you really want the Glock 19" and "you want this 2".38 if you want a revolver" followed by "whoever suggested these guns for you is a fucking moron" . What she was dealing with is a Fudd. The kind who thinks the 6" .44 is cool unless someone else wants one and whos tactical knowledge is Glock 19, Glock 19, Glock 19, Glock 19. I have a a 2" Smith 438 .38. I didnt bring it for a reason. She eventually tried it with some +p loads and didnt like that gun at all on top of not not hitting shit with it. I didn't want to put her through my gun buying process. Which is a friend of mine with FFL in another state shipped to my gunsmith to do the transfer. Thought she would be good going to a retail store. She's also pretty hot. So after irritating her with not getting her what she wanted he asked for her number. She was pissed and i told her i would handle getting the guns and she just needs to show up and do paperwork and pay when they come in. My gunsmith doesn't stock anything but gunsmith stuff. Hes very busy fixing, installing, and customization. But finds transfers to be worth his time. She goes to pick up her used S&W 629 and her NIB Glock 34. Then tells me how helpful my gunsmith was and also how he hot. He looks like Rob Lowe. So hes a looker. He hits me up asking about her. They been together for over 2 years now lol. Happy ending. But look what it took just to get her the guns she wanted, that would work fine for what she wanted, that she already tried out. Though not cookie cutter as to what she was supposed to get. All i had to say to her was "Hey he likes you to, called me and asked about you" and boom shes got a what looks to be a lasting romantic relationship. She puts effort into her looks. Makes good money. Wanted a guy who did the same that and has makes enough money to not need hers as well as posessing some other basic adult attributes. Not easy to find. But apparently easier than just getting a gun for self defense with all the bullshit advice and "im so badass i dont need a gun that is actually going to work to win a gunfight" claims from someone who's never experienced the shakes due to a situation getting outright confrontational trying to pass themselves off as someone who simply no longer gets them after multiple experiences.
That is legit awful, but I am glad there was a good outcome.
I lost respect for Jared now that he’s shilling for vanquish holsters. I’ll listen for his 2a info but definitely not his product recommendations !
Crazy how vanquish has got their hooks into people.
I use an ad blocker to avoid the disgusting YT videos and scroll forward on Jared's and other's in video ads to get to the content. Seeing the same adds on many of the Leviathan Group channels the same week just makes it all the more obvious what is going on.
I don't follow or listen to these guys for the exact reasons they themselves are talking about and it's been years
I wonder which one has the fastest mile time in full (free sponsored) kit
We need to understand that they are being paid, we need to do our own research on purchasing anything. I like most of those guys but we have to appreciate what everyone has to offer. Some have more than others.
I love it Who Tee Who swinging by!
There is a difference between making money doing what you do(reviewing) and being paid to lie and/or promote and peddle trash. A good example is Honest Outlaw vs 704 Tactical. Or FocusTripp vs MAC.
Yeap
The heavyset guy in the black cap on the left is notorious for posting clickbait titles on his videos. It's something he started doing later in this YT career. I had to dip on his channel; sh!t was super annoying. That aside, this was a great stream/vid. Well done, and thank you.
Love that LongMan (MauLer) EFAP or non-FAP. Great stream Focus...this industry needed you and you answered. Cheers!
@@fullm3taljacket we need the long
The USCCA lobby is crazy.
CMMG has to be paying a lot.
For real, them and Olight😅
@@derek3154😂😂 olight is 💩💩
Everyone go watch Nutnfancy’s video “Manufacturer Relationships in TNP.” And then enjoy your new industry perspective.
I think links are allowed. I have not yet watched the video but here is the link for others: ua-cam.com/video/wmvUIPn5VtE/v-deo.html
All the dudes on the liberty lounge are just unbearable. Absolute snooze fest. Riddled with clickbait "news"
I don't watch their stuff.
I knew there was a reason I liked your channel, beyond the great content, I too don't drink, smoke, or do drugs. Never have never will. Another great video!!!
“Only in the firearms world do people freak out if somebody makes money.” Even if that was true, shilling a gun that is used for protecting life and shilling a razor that is used for shaving your scrotum aren’t exactly on the same level. Gun content has a higher expectation of honesty, due to the serious use case and serious consequences of poor quality.
Clearly I am underestimating the consequences of poor quality scrotum razors.
Oh look it's the Larry, Moe, and Curly of Guntubers. "This video is brought to you by our friends at CMMG" or "Ground breaking ruling with angry Joe Biden thumbnail"
The best warranty is the one you never need.
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Flannel Daddy was one of the 1st shills for Big Daddy Unlimited. JS.
Also true.
PSA actually failed to sell me a PA-10, and I believe they lied to me after they messed up. The summary of my experience with them is on my Google review, but it's actually worse than what I said in that review. I left out some of my frustrations with them due to the fact that the review was already TLDR. My problem with them doesn't even get into the quality of their products, because they messed up so badly that they actually didn't sell me anything. I went a block down the road and had a much better experience getting my very first firearm. I live about 15 minutes from their factory in SC, so I'm talking about an experience at their main company store nearest to their factory.
This may be addressed later in the video, but I have one of these pieces of shit, and it’s abysmal garbage. The Jakl is arguably one of the worst performing and designed rifles I’ve ever handled, and that’s saying something. Poverty State Armory sent me some parts when I originally reported an issue to their customer service, to home gunsmith their products myself I guess, when I originally reported the issue of it not cycling subsonic 300blk even when suppressed, and even with the 20 or whatever gas block positions it has.
I replaced the parts and it still didn’t fix the issue. So they demanded I sent it back so they could assess it and fix it. So I did that, and it’s been 14 months since I had it returned to me where DPMS, where it was sent to for warranty work, tested and sent it back to me with the claim they tested it completely, found absolutely zero issues, and said it was good to go.
I went and tested it because I knew they were full of it, and of course it didn’t cycle still, and it had developed this new issue where the charging handle/charging handle sled would bind up as the weapon was charged, and stick causing this weird malfunction where I had to manually cycle it to get the bolt to go home. This also happened intermittently during firing, when I could get it to cycle.
I reported to Poverty State Armory’s customer service it still has the same issue, as well as a new issue. They demanded video evidence. Ok, so I again went out, on my own dime, to test it and take video of the issues. I sent those videos to them, and their customer support team seemed confused, sent a bunch of monkey noises back to me via email, CSR-splained me how silencers work, and demanded I send it back again, only this time they demanded I send it with my Surefire RC2. They wanted to know what ammo I was using, or have used. They were shocked to find out it was their AAC ammo in the video, but that I’ve tried nearly all the subsonic 300blk I could find. Turns out, they tested it with supersonic ammo only, and it was working great, and they couldn’t figure out why I was bothering them or what my problem was.
When I started asking questions and informed them that no, I will not be sending a multimillion dollar firearms manufacturing company one of the most commonly available silencers in circulation, that evidently they didn’t have and couldn’t get on their own, for them to use it to do whatever they wanted to do with it for some undetermined amount of time, they completely ghosted me. I also asked why I would send it back, with my silencer, when they couldn’t bother to even address the issues I originally reported and sent in for warranty work the first time. I told the CSR folks I didn’t understand why they needed it a second time to assess and repair something they clearly ignored the first time. I didn’t understand why they didn’t check the issues I was having the first time I sent it all the way back, and I’ve yet to receive an answer as to why that happened. In fact, they didn’t have any answers to these questions.
I tried emailing for an update and a response to the questions and concerns I raised, and got nothing. I tried calling twice and the CSR’s who answered the phone complimented me on my patience and grammatical acumen, and promised to have some sort of manager or supervisor call me or email me, and in 10 months, I’ve received absolutely nothing. No more emails or phone calls at all.
I purchased the Jakl in February of 23, and as the minute of this comment, it’s still garbage. So I basically have a $1200 paperweight that I’m essentially stuck with because I can’t in good conscience sell it to some other poor sucker. So it hangs on the wall as a tribute to the stupidity of Poverty State Armory, as well as to myself for knowing better and doing it anyways, and so I can use it to teach these lessons to others. At this point I’m sure PSA isn’t going to fix it, because they’re clearly too inept to figure it out, and there’s zero chance they return my money, as it’s going well past a year and a half since I purchased this piece of shit, and I can’t even get an email back. I’m sick of these fuckin room temperature IQ plebs and their asinine and illogical copium responses in defense of these business practices. It needs to stop.
Big yikes homie.
I have always enjoyed your videos. My issue with you continuing down this path makes you appear butt hurt over them dropping you. Not saying it’s the case, but you continue to put out this bashing content and bashing anyone that may think differently than you. I just feel(not that you care or should) that you would be better off just moving on. You should point out things you find wrong with any product you review. You should also, give your constructive criticism directly to the companies producing products you review.
He’s a trend setter. Haven’t you noticed the shift on UA-cam since he started this?
He’s building trust with us, I just hope it pays off for him in the long run.
I am mostly responding to their arguments, which suck. Calling out bad actors has to happen so companies are forced to respond to public pressure by improving their products.
@@FocusTripp agree! Wish companies would work with people like yourself and work to improve their processes! Keep up the good reviews man! That is your bread and butter!
This is why I stopped buying years ago and started building at least then its usually my own damn fault when the gun sucks. The sad reality is almost everything has already been an AR-18 since the AR-15. Nearly all reasons why you buy a weapon now it's based upon caliper or comfort (which is fine I'm just a nerd) There are people pushing the technology forward though, just not enough of the big guys. They are still releasing models designed in the fifties and sixties. Imagine if dewalt barely updated, their impact drivers from the original model. That's kinda how I feel about things like rugers barely changing over the years. To each their own though. I don't think anyone remembers it's supposed to come out eventually, but I really hope Franklin Armory releases the providence series within the next 10 years
FocusTripp THANK YOU for exposing all of this. Its fine to make money but people deserve truth. As for PSA they jerked me around for months. This was years ago. I promised to troll them forever. The most important point you made to me was that guntubers warranty experience can very well be a much different experience then the average off the street person. This is a company who deletes bad reviews and then pays people to say nice things about them. After your critical review of the Jackal the psa community united via their forum to attack you. I do not understand how they can blindly support such an awful company. Sheeple. A recent SOTAR video autopsy of two psa uppers received a similar response. Apparently truth is a trigger. Morons! Come at me man! (Psa fanbois)
Groupthink is a powerful thing.
Not shocking at all, scummy companies will purposefully try to give you a better experience than the average customer for good looks, if im going to say good about something the customer experience for the average person matters alot
Garand Ram Ranch couldn't have been cheap...
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Call me crazy but I'll trust a small youtuber channel review on a gun/gun related product over a big youtube channel that has a studio big enough for Hollywood and a graphics team advanced enough to fake the moon landings.
My buddy constantly copes about PSA by saying “but they have a really good warranty” and I always say “if your main argument for buying a company’s product is that they have a good warranty then you need to reevaluate your priorities”
yrp
Dont know if it gets mentioned, as I'm not done with the video yet but I saw an article that said GT had left Leviathan. Id say when your under contract with them, you dont always have a choice in what advertising gets shoveled on you.
Aaaaaand there it is. Literally 10 seconds after i typed that 😂
We talked about it.
Yeah it really isn’t a good look for them. Kinda stopped watching their channels a while ago bc they fell out of my algorithm. Probably won’t watch much more of them other than Jared’s breaking info on stuff pertaining to gun laws but even then, there’s other sources. Great informative stream.
Also, anytime someone does a paid ad I pretty much know to ignore them because they’re bought and paid for opinions. I do get that not everyone gets that tho. I think there was a channel who admitted that whenever something is a paid ad just know to take it as not their opinion on the product and I kinda appreciated that and kinda had that as the moment it clicked it’s like that for all channels.
One should assume that 99% of these "sponsors" are just full of shit and skip the ads. :)
1:38:25 That was a great iraqveteran888 impression
Garand Thumb getting a Rocky boots sponsorship
I am not familiar with them.
@@FocusTripp my command had Rocky S2V boots for VBSS. They have a sole that is better in slippery environments, a shank in the sole and composite hard toes. The best quality.
@@koffeekage So they are good, nice to hear.
Yeah, this doesn't make sense to me. I've had issues. Kel-Tec was nice to me. PSA has been nice to me. Everybody's been very nice to me, so I think you guys are......I don't know what to say
1:57:57 Literally being Retarded-Focus Trip
HE JUST LIKE ME, HE JUST LIKE ME!!!!
I guess if your paid to review and the product sucks, you should just send it back and not release a video. You should also tell the manufacturer the problems. I'd prefer you tell your audience the truth, but I'd prefer a reviewer's silence over a lie.
Wow I missed one, catch you guys next time.
I have a PSA AR pistol. At about 750 rounds it’s still functioning fine. I’m not much of a rifle guy…I prefer my Benelli and Beretta shotguns, but the PSA is fine for what I do with it…which is just as a range toy. Having said that, every firearm that leaves the manufacturer needs to function as designed. QC should be a very high priority, and while PSA seems to have gotten better, it’s just not their top priority. Quantity has a quality of its own, I suppose. I don’t consider the PSA brand the “go to” company for quality. In fact, I’d be hesitant to depend on their Glock-clone “Dagger” lineup, and we all know Glock made a reliable design.
22:36 I'd be afraid to say nutn's name too.
Automotive reviewers and journalists police their own
Regarding holding onto a bad product vs sending it back. I think this does not have to be an "either hold onto it and tell everyone about the issues" or "send it back and don't tell anyone" binary.
Recently @RTTGunsGear did a video of his experience with the combat armory Glock clone full pistol. He ran into a ton of issues but then worked with the company to get it working. His review video showed all of the issues and the overall tone of the video was matter of fact. In the end, the pistol worked but it was also clear how much pain someone had to put up with in order to get what they should have had from the start: a working gun.
All that to say, i would love to see a similar video for the jakl (or any other product). I'm not saying you have to do this I'm just saying that those videos (to me) are some of the most informative about what a company is actually made of.
You can do any style of video you want. You just need to be honest and upfront about it.
@@FocusTripp (please forgive me if it seems like I'm putting words in your mouth; i am not trying to. I am a regular watcher of your channel. I'm trying to contribute to the discussion NOT label you as a "big meanie" or anything like that)
Some of the comments from viewers seem (and of course i cannot read their minds) like they think you are not being courteous to at least engage with PSA to try to make it right.
From watching your coverage of the jakl issues and people's arguments to "send it back and let PSA fix it" it seems like you are opposed to that because (among other things) it will essentially destroy the evidence of a bad product's existence (again, if that is not your point then i am sorry for not fully understanding).
I'm saying that is a false binary. @RTTGunsGear (with the aforementioned review) showed how you can showcase a product's faults while also working with the company to make it right. In his case, no evidence was concealed by sending the product back because he documented the whole thing.
(Please don't take this next part as me hating on you; I'm just trying to point a way to maybe make things better.) If you took the same approach with the jakl then maybe you would establish a relationship with psa such that you could ask them the biting question that you otherwise are forced to speculate about: "how many of these defective products are out there and what are you (PSA) going to do about it?"
@rsagmil I generally try to give the company the benefit of the doubt. Of course if something like an optic loses zero during my destructive testing, the viewers will see it in real time. If a firearm has a problem, and the manufacturer fixes it, I do the review with the repaired firearm but let the viewer know what happened. And in cases like the CA pistol, I also was able to record the issue and the viewer also got to see it. Honesty is paramount. I'll watch a crappy video recorded with a potato if it is informative and honest, over a fancy video from someone who relies on showmanship and comes across as just a 10 min ad.
@@RTTGunsGear yes. I really liked that video. I would be very interested in a similar video from @FocusTripp where he (publicly) engaged with PSA to get the jakl fixed as opposed to what appears (to me, a viewer with not all of the info) to be a "no way I'll send it back because that will conceal faults by psa" attitude (again, if I'm misrepresenting something then i am sorry).
A video like that would benefit all customers because either PSA would fix their issues (including other impacted customers) or show that they don't actually care. However, I'm afraid too many bridges have been burned already so i wouldn't be surprised if psa didn't want anything to do with this.
@rsagmil I had an issue with PSA, and I did not get a friendly response at all. This was 6 or 7 years ago. That's honestly one company that I'll never give the benefit of the doubt just due to my past experiences. Two junk rifles. Horrible customer service. And a smear campaign organized by one of their employees through their FB group page. But I've also never hidden my disdain for PSA either. I understand where you're coming from though. Personally, I like Focus Tripp's videos. Again..honesty is paramount to me. And while some may not like exactly the way he does things. I don't think anyone can accuse John of being bought or dishonest. Not saying you are saying that.
Armed scholar is the mike zero of gubtube. Hes always making videos saying the same thing and there's no actual substance.
Reason I never subbed to him. Was watching his videos an I noticed he didn't provide anything of substance from the last video
There are so many that may look good due to reviews and get paid, but dont produce negatibe reviews or not all.of them. They still get paid but dawg a conpany or discuss the issues. Sometimes send it back for fixes amd after months and multiple reviews they only go public with the final review and not entirely authentic...lots of half truths without the full details and viewerrs get bamboozled
I'm a big fan of psa, that being said, you should test out whatever rifle you buy, especially if it's cheap. I bought a psa gen 3 ar10, before mods and scope it only ran me about 900 wich is dirt cheap for an ar10. I shot about 200 rounds through it and the adjustment screw on the adjustable gas block came loose and the gun stopped functioning properly. I tossed it and replaced it with a standard gas block, since then, I've put over 2k rounds through it. Now it functions flawlessly, shoots smooth and is sub moa with match grade ammo all day.
Let it go bro just let it go
Im not gonna lie, i woke up listening to this. I own only 1 ar. And its psa, i feel attacked lol.
First off the JAKL needs some serious refinement, I own one (but with a MI folding stock) and though it’s been reliable I have a few concerns with fit/finish and design direction. Second the only videos Grand Thumb produces that are worth your time is his survival videos. I think they play too many video games or cater to kids that do, hurts the reputation and credibility of the info he’s posting. Glad someone is pointing this all out.
Its sad that yourubers conprimaze so much on life saving devices (like guns in this case ) and push 💩 products to people that put their life trust in them!! Thats why there only only verry few, once again, verry few youtubes that are genuine in their reviews, on top of my list is you my man! Focuse Trip is the snitzel !
I've always assumed "better help" was just an information farming scam
basically.
The channel Podcast Cringe does a really good job of calling out podcasters for doing all the same things - good content FT, keep it up!!!
It's a big content cesspool.
I completely agree that in reviews and things that are made to appear opinion based, people should be held accountable. As far as pure ad reads, I mean pure ad reads, people shouldn't be held accountable. It's pretty obvious the difference between the two. The consumers hand shouldn't be held. If you think a pill can get you to grow a big d*CK, then you should have your money taken from you, there's a lesson there. This is really directed at people who shit on the unsubscribe guys like Herrera, Eli, donut and the like, they've even put out episodes saying that their ads are purely that (have apologized for a couple, which they shouldn't have had to). Again this goes for purely and obvious ad reads, not opinion based reviews, reviews should never be monetarily biased, that's immoral
Access media is bottom of the barrel.
So how long before a guntuber does the Bruce Willis thing and sells their likeness to make AI ads ?
Already happening.
I'm with GB Guns. Not only does YT not cover ammo cost. Last year I had an 8k loss.
@@RTTGunsGear I also post a load but my ammo is covered currently