This Pilot Didn't Know Left from Right
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- Опубліковано 18 лют 2015
- The captain's instruments were working when Crossair Flight 498 crashed, but he didn't understand what they were telling him. How could a qualified pilot confuse left for right?
From: AIR DISASTERS: Lost in Translation
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He should have said, “The other left.”
Yeah
HOLY SHIT YOU COULD HAVE SAVED THAT PLANE
Damn it yea
Go that way!!!
At least he should say right
I actually feel bad for the pilot
Randell C. Nyet.
Me too 😢
Same
Sebby 324 same too
I feel bad for the passengers
I have seen that in the sim while training a guy that came from a Cessna caravan. The artificial horizon was a problem for him as well.
At the end of the day.... the first officer should’ve taken control
Give it to me. May airplane
@@fplsupport1251 underrated
what's the meaning of "qualified pilot"?. it seems to me he wasn't qualified to fly that plane. maybe he was a well qualified pilot for other planes but not for that one.....
If he wasn't qualified to fly that plane then he wouldn't have been permitted to fly it (OK, I'm talking about an ideal world there).
The problem is that when under extreme stress he reverted to his original training with Russian artificial horizons. Something that might have happened in simulator tests for qualification or might not (and, presumably in his case, did not).
I think the real fix is that any pilot initially trained with one type of display should never be allowed to qualify on aircraft with the other type. Critical thinking largely shuts down under extreme stress and only training, which gives you reflex reactions, can get you through it. This guy reverted to his original training with Russian instruments rather than his more recent training with western ones. All too likely to happen.
The purpose of these investigations is always to improve flight safety. When they say "qualified" in the video, they mean within the current system. Of course after accidents they add training to make them more qualified
I think that they try to say that he had the training and correct paperwork, but he definitely was not qualified.
The one with russian control
"The russian attitude indicators were cvery different from the western style."
0:25
Paused
Anyone see he right "oh Nana"
Lol
the first officer should have taken control from the captain as soon as the captain got confused
A 737 crash, also blamed on the pilot, later determined design flaw. Plane had engine fire after takeoff, engaged fire extinguisher on that engine, then lost power and crashed from low altitude.
Aircraft blueprints are in "layers" then integrated into final blueprint for assembly. Turns out the fire extinguisher layer was added as mirror image to final plan. So not only did the burning engine continue to burn but the remaining good engine was extinguished. The engineers (H1B) who worked on the layer were fired but managers that accepted that layer and signed of on final plan kept their jobs.
Was that the British Midland crash in 1989?
@@GCarty80 en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_accidents_and_incidents_involving_the_Boeing_737
*Plane crashes*
Smithsonian: IT´S BRIGHTER HERE!
I prefer the western horizon more
I would prefer the Soviet one. I'm no russian, and I'm also no western. But I like the Soviet one because it's easier to understand and see. While watching this, I actually got confused a bit when looking at the western one. Nah, but everyone has their own opinions.
Chris J. I’m western and I actually prefer the soviet one...the western one looks a bit confusing
Tiffany's Gf Yep. 100% agree.
same im American and i think the soviet one is more logical just preferences but it makes sense to me
The Russian one makes sense if you're a ground observer. When you're physically in the air, the western style makes much more sense; the horizon on the display will match the real horizon and vice versa.
He did know left from right, he just wasn't trained correctly and honestly thought that he was doing the right thing
ɖơɱ_ ɬɧɛ i see the pun
So the First Officer so have taken control instead of shouting LEFT LEFT and turned the yolk to the LEFT! SMH
Jay P also if I guy is shouting no left, I think kyou would assume a little that your going the wrong way😂
yolk lol
“My aircraft” *steers left to fix it*
But they were In a very stressful situation almost crashing u know
@@abelincoln5698 yep that's what it is douche
The simulation of the artificial horizon is showing different turns at 01:53. The Russian one is showing a left turn and the western display is showing a right turn.
yes they were showing how a left turn on a soviet horizon is similar to a right turn on a western one
*explosion* then cheerful music and its brighter here
They're all the same horizons. Just know your up from your down and your left from your right.
The video states the difference between radars. The russian radar was reversed, also when youre in a huge vehicle in the clouds you wouldnt even know you'd be flying upside down
0:24 did this man just circle a ‘oh nana’ on the whiteboard to make it seem like he was working ???
I DONT Stan smithsonian anymore!😡😡
Handsome Jiminie omg I didn't even realise! 😂
Lol
It could mean something we dont know
@@yaaassbitch8704 It's Russian for "Oh hell no!"
LOL
Captain was really in complete choas
Instead of screaming left he should tell:
I have control
This is one of reason I feel uncomfortable inside a plane flying over a dead zone on pitch dark night.
Even though the pilot was confused by the instruments, he should’ve listened to the first officer this means that the pilot didn’t know his right from his left
Only shouting "left" literally conveys no information. It could both mean to turn left, or it could with equal possibility, mean the plane is banking left. Each would require a different action.
Left might mean bank to the left.
Or it might mean the plane is banking to the left, so correct by banking to the right. Which is what the pilot was doing.
So the copilot is just going to continue to yell "left"! "left"! , and not do anything about it? ...You would think he would immediately assume controls of the plane...
Now you make me confused...
You would feel that your leaning to the right
Jake The Emerald Brick the radar was different and when youre piloting a huge aircraft its alot harder in the clouds/night.
Actually, the combination of centrifugal force and gravity makes it difficult t9 tell which way you’re turning, but that doesn’t make you dumb for thinking that.
Sounds like my classmate flying to me. :)
And they say there is no reason to be afraid to fly and then you see this shit
I wonder if the pilot suffered from spatial disorientation
please make full episodes available for Philippines
Good Techtorial
Oh. My. God.
I didn't think that you could become a pilot without knowing ur left and ur rights??
I always feel for the actors who have to portray the doomed passengers in these re-creations, I’m sure it can get pretty harrowing. they have to scream and act distressed… But I also feel bad for the actor who is selected to portray the pilot in this episode
wtf
hes not dead dude
yes
I got also confused when I saw the ADI on a Boeing... I thought it indicated a left tourn while the plane was going right :D But I mean... as a pilot you should have a close look at these most baic and crucial things...
he was trained under a completely different system so it's not that improbable for him to be confused under stress
Awwww that's so sad
The first officer should hav taken the controls instead of shouting LEFT LEFT LEFT LEFT!!!!!! What a crazy Captain
1:46 that is the front of the plane so left part is the right wing so that's why the pilot got confused
Danm inverted contols
I have a 2 year old sis and she knows what left and right is!
Girl Crafts not in a vertical dive, at night, in an aircraft, panicking to save lives she doesn’t.
spatial disorientation?
I understand the differences between the artificial horizons of the West and the east. Something that remains common in both, is when you turn the yolk left, you're going left. If you turn the yolk right. You're going, right? When you're flying, your senses can be fooled very easily, especially when you're flying IFR, Regardless when you turn left the yolk should be turning left, when you turn the yolk right, you would be turning right. If you think your artificial horizon says you're turning right but your yolk is turned to the left, you can be pretty sure that you're turning left and not right. Any thoughts? Yes, I know it's easy to sit in armchair quarterback. And things are different when you're flying and things can be very confusing in a stressful situation. And pilots are always taught to fly by their instruments. But you still need to cross check things.
Pilots are trained to trust their instruments above all else, I’ve been in an aircraft with crossed controls, (left input, right output) and it wasn’t very fun… there can be a multitude of reasons for the instruments to not match the controls but you follow the instruments, and if you think yours are wrong then you check the copilots or your back ups, if they agree then they are almost 100% in working order
It is called spatial disorientation
I am a doctor who has this issue , I couldn't go to surgery 😑 difficulties in driving...
Your left forefinger and thumb make a little L for left... mister pilot man!
+OneLoudNinja his co-pilot was shouting"Left" you idiot
Crossbow Crafter the pilot could have thought he was telling him that the plane was left
Eric Zhao yeaaa but still
Fat Potato but still what? He wasnt specific to a man who was confused to shit.
He simply should say other way around
He was on Phenazepam
Ok so if you turn that steep of a right you would of felt it, and corrected it, regardless if you know what the gauges do.
No, a turn can be 1g and you don't feel anything.
Not really if you say ride a bike you know how much youre turning right because its within personal space. A huge aircraft is different story.
You dont rely on what you feel when you fly you rely on instruments only.
Going by what you "feel" while flying IMC is deadly, 100% deadly.
That s exactly the point why Kennedy crashed his airplane. In the darkness above the sea
do planes have port and starboard like a boat
? Or is it just called left and right like a car?
It's just called left and right.
I started flying aircraft in domestic simulators 9 months ago and I've never really got used to the western artificial horizon. For me the one used in Russia is way more intuitive and easy to understand.
Even a pilot with lots of experience with the new artificial horizon may get confused, that is how our brain works, especially over stressful situations or under fatigue.
I agree. The artifical horizon doesn't really make sense since horizons do not move, you are moving relative to the horizon.
@@jesspavlichenko5745 In the Western-style attitude indicator, the artificial aircraft wings are always aligned with the real aircraft wings and the artificial horizon is always aligned with the real horizon. This gives the pilot an intuitive perspective of the aircraft attitude, matching what the pilot would see out of the window. Both Russian and Western attitude indicator designs objectively portray what they were designed to portray, however the Western-style indicator is arguably far more intuitive from a pilot's perspective. That being said, both are equally as useful if trained to read them correctly.
No west is better, russian design looks like a reverse mouse input on a computer
@@Puffmac1 every UX designer can say if you need learning how it use then you created really BAD design
Avionics design should intuitive and native for human sensors and imaginations as it possible. Like new synthetic vision, or old soviet attitude indicators
Soviet planes with that type of attitude indicator had no problem with losing model of flight by pilots, so it's proof that type of interface is more intuitive interface for pilots
Every person have limited concentration possible to spend to resolve some task.
Critical situation can require so many concentration so for person can be impossible to spend some concentration to understand information from gauges with bad UX design
@@berdugong-druglordmanyakis1608 try fly in plane in simulator with soviet type attitude indicator and you find how easy it especially if you fly with 90 degrees roll and 30 degree pitch, etc etc
He was high on drugs, which contributed to the accident. The co-pilot said left, but he was intoxicated and did not understand.
Confused by the instrument is one thing, but can you not feel gravity pulling you in the wrong direction?
The human vestibular system (what tells you what direction your head is tilted when your eyes are closed) is extremely unreliable. It can make you feel you are tilting one way, or even that you are stationary, when you are tilted the other way. Countless pilots have died that way. Look up "graveyard spiral", for one example.
Not in a plane that's moving that fast. You can't. Your up down, left right senses are horrible at their jobs unless you have a horizon or physical objects for orientation.
If you and the physical object are spinning, there's no hope. That's why we have Instrument Landing Systems on planes that climb higher than certain altitudes.
A plane can literally do a barrel roll and it will feel like it's flying perfectly straight. Our senses cannot differentiate between orientation and acceleration.
LEFT!!!!! LEFT!!!! 😄😄😄
seems like there's no difference in readings... at 1:25, you'd bear RIGHT on either one to level out. Correct?
but the pilot mistook horizon line with plane line
In my opinion I like the western method
And the pilot should know how it would have felt like because of how gravity works
Gravity only came to him from the dive, there is no telling the direction he was facing
He would only know if he was stationary, inside a gyro. Look up somatogravic illusion.
"How can a qualified pilot become so confused?"
He's a human being just like the rest of us, he has other things to think about to other than his professional life. There are a million things going on in a person's head. School is designed for a particular type of student not for all human beings. The way the world works is just so wrong!
A qualified pilot is allowed to think about other things, except when he’s flying. I don’t care what’s going on in a pilots life, if he’s flying an aircraft where tens if not hundreds of lives depend on him, the ONLY thing he should be thinking about is flying. If his life is so bad, he shouldn’t be flying.
I find the Russian method a bit more logical
TechTorial No.. Its just different perspective.. us westerners have an easier way, it shows 1st person view, where the russians showed 3rd. So no, its not more logical. I have a feeling you say its more logical because you hate britain or america. Everyone hates us, especially in our own country. Kids going "Yeah, Germanys way is better" And shit
No one said anything like that. They both have their pros and cons but having a preference over another isn't claiming the other's country is bad.
Skull Crusher King easier to understand
TechTorial Yeah but one has to look more carefully.
It's actually called the soviet method
he needs to go to left and right school
According to my knowledge pilots r not allowed to fly if they have specks...?
U people are mad, you upgrade your airline, your pilot should go extra training, be for using the plan.
And learn left and right.
In the US, you fly the plane.
In Soviet Russia, the plane flies you.
Pilot: Go left.
*Co-Pilot turns right*
Pilot: Go left!
*Proceeds to turn right*
Pilot: LEFT!!!!!!!!!!!!!
*STILL TURNS RIGHT*
Pilot: Right!
*Turns left*
Pilot: DAMNIT!!!
*Crashes plane*
THIS IS WHY YOU ALWAYS HAVE SPARE HEADPHONES WITH R AND L ON BOTH OF THEM XD
I love your chanle so much I hope you are reading this I study plane crashs
Oh pilots these days
aviation council is trial and eror always.. accident happened before they realize the right thing..they should analyze all right and wrong possibilities yo avoid accidents.
Co Pilot Could Have Taken Over! But Who Knows What Happened 😔
He wasnt trained to use them, it is like you try to teach a guy to drive a bike and then you give him a 8x8 truck.... It is a system error, not crew error.
I'm so confused by the illustration at 1:48. Here it seems like the soviet display on the left is showing a bank to the left, but the western display is showing a bank to the right. Shouldn't they try to show the same bank?
Both displays were developed separately; Soviet horizons indicate an aircraft's attitude relative to the horizon, as if you're looking at an airplane from behind, whereas Western ones depict the actual horizon from a pilot's perspective.
@@fs10inator I get that. Its just at that specific point in the video, it looks like they are showing 2 different turns.
I have exactly the same thoughts and am very confused. The Western display is showing a right turn while the Soviet one is clearly showing a left. Don't know how one can be confused. It's easy to see that the horizon in the Western display is not the plane, while the plane in the Soviet display is not the horizon
Fuck me. How can something like this even happen? There's no training for the specific plane or what? Yes, the two methods to show the horizon are very different, but I guess that getting used to the other one must not take more than a couple of days at best?
Acrobats are easier to grasp with the eastern ADI but the standard is the western. He was a Russian flying a Boeing and was spitFaced so he got confused and the black box showed he did a barrow roll
I knew about these facts from my flying time there , in the post crash era neither on the National Geographic footage nobody is talking about the grounds on why Moritz Sutter of Crossair employed pilots from Moldova , Slovakia and Yugoslavia substantially unfit to meet Western European standards on why he put those two to gain operational experience on a Swiss line before being moved to their real destination Crossair’s daughter company in Slovakia . Both pilots had no previous CRM training , Captain failed to report being in psychiatric treatment in Basel who was prescribed strong sedatives , the substandard crew English skills the failure to comply with standard checklist procedures, ultimately and sadly the F/O failure to intervene in emergency .
The later stories about Soviet ADI type confusions which may have contributed to the Captain's disorientation are Ok . though provided the AP was engaged this senseless loss of lives would have not ocurred. Bizare nobody is talking about the poor Crossair pilots working conditions , that's is why Crossair is no longer here , Moritz Sutter is gone and forgotten while little is said about his previous activities as pilot and owner of Business Flyers company at Zurich and two other deadly incidents at Basel in 1980 and in Zurich in 2001, fact is those who died will never come back.
Honestly, He Could have said "NOOOO, THE OTHER WAY" or "NOOOO, Your Other Left"!!😡
Vontel Amir then it wouldn't make sense. You know why?! BECAUSE there is only ONE left! There is no OTHER left!
just sit there and yell left left left instead of taking controls or saying we are banking left turn right????
Aviators Standard Artificial Horizon is The Western. it's so Very Accurate.
Both are accurate, and convey the exact same information. It's just that there is a difference of the way the 2 systems think. Cup is half full or half empty.
For the poeple wondering this is a continuation of "a cockpit designed to crash"
He should had said right if he was going left
I like the russian method better
That bad attitude
Crossair
Or maybe he was under stress and didn't know what he was doing while trying to save innocent lives onboard the doomed aircraft.
flight 593 brought me here; thank you
Actually, they don't look similar at all. Who cares what part of the display moves? It's the BROWN section (the ground) that is crucial, and that determines what your attitude is in both types of displays!
But he would have been trained with the exact instruments on the flight sim for that plane!?!
@Sfs rocket lab, ummm what? What tf are you trying to say? Do you really think i’m talking about an flight sim run on an PC, you use keyboard and mouse to play?
@Sfs rocket lab, This happened in the year 2000... flight sims were advanced enough to display the exact instruments... that is nothing new! The flight sim came first in 1929
@Sfs rocket lab, What are you trying to tell me? Driving a plane? Seriously, do you know anything about what you are saying? Are you trying to tell me that the captain wasn’t trained at all on this airplane? Wtf? Of course the pilot was trained on this type of airplane... If that was not what you meant, then explain to me in a little more detail what you were saying
good video
Solution: never fly Russian piloted aircraft.
Wrong. The pilots should have a CHOICE what indicator to use. Take a look at the comments-some people say that the Russian indication makes more sense, others say that the Western is more convenient. Since all modern indicators are digital anyway, just give a choice.
@@Scorpionwacom I think the BEST choice Scorpy is the one when the pilot actually flies you and lands at your intended destination safety. If y'all agree, hollar at me! :D
@Bobby Collins Problem is, that is not a solution. It never is.
@@Scorpionwacom No, the western instrument is more intuitive, because it shows you 100 percent the same picture as reality. The problem starts if you are trained to follow a "wrong" indication, then reality makes no sense anymore. Flying a Russian attitude indicator is like wearing "mirror glasses", you have to learn a habit, where as the western instrument just shows you the same as if you where looking outside the window.
Especially if their children are on board.
The captain should have gone back to kindergarten.
Nothing positive came out of this flight but at least the passengers and the flight crew didn't have to suffer because they were all killed instantly on impact
Multiple Human Error
Idk about you guys but the displays look totally the same
This is why you pay attention in school
Left! Left! 😂
Did anyone notice that the plane never turned right it was turning left not right
that was the view facing the nose of the plane in reality if you were in the plane facing forward like normal it was turning right
Why didnt the pilot push the arms of the captain to left?
xTeddy _ better yet why didnt he take control?
I feel sorry for the pilot on the left.
lollll
Pilot does not understand left means turn left not we are going left I watched full thing
Me while reversing truck..
Easy answer: The captain was very shocked, and lost memory of where is left and right. The Soviet Display also looks confusing, he knew where his left and right was.
I don't believe in stupid questions, rather awkward ones, but I do believe in stupid remarks like this one. Tard.
@@Holland1994D This comment was 2 years ago, the hell you doing here, lmao? I can barely remember making this comment.
I'm only going to be flying planes with a Garmin G3000 or Garmin G5000 flight deck. Otherwise, sod it. I'm definitely not starting out on a Cessna.
I’m 11 and I know left and right