Umm, hate to disagree but this does seem like exactly the time to overreact. This email literally says “we have no idea what’s happening because we fired everyone who did.”
Tesla has the data if they need more stations or if they need to expand existing stations. Everyone that doesn't work for Tesla that has zero knowledge of anything is not smarter than Tesla.
Time to overreact...why? Are the SCs down? Tesla has stopped SC additions. OK. The sky is not falling in spite of all the You Tube hysteria. EV sales are stalling everywhere. Hybrids sales in California now outnumber EV sales. Regardless of what you think of Musk, he is an astute businessman.
@@melvinholland9656 The time to overreact is BEFORE they're down. Superchargers are not more reliable than other DC fast chargers because they are red and white or because they say "TESLA" on them! They're more reliable because they have been well maintained, and that stopped this week. It's just a matter of time before the problems mount.
Kinda rhymes with what happened with Twitter/X. I’d say quite a bit more important in the grand scheme . Time for an adult to replace the petulant though smart innovator in chief to run Tesla as a responsible ongoing concern. Having been laid off in the past I have to say that the method employed here speaks volumes about how Elon/esla feels about Human Resources. Again - see Xitter - and that remains a mess.
It makes sense if Musk wanted to send a strong message to his lieutenants. And in the context of a slowing global economy...it might be exactly what's needed.
The inside word is that Musk is in demon mode( angry and sadistic) usually when he goes through these phases he takes it out on his employees, this time he sent emails that he wanted layoffs, employees had so little time that many only found out when they showed up to work and were escorted out like trash. The lady in charge of the supercharger network pushed back to protect the workers underneath her and he blew up and ordered her and most of the dept fired without any consideration of the potential damage to the company, now people are scrambling to try to contain the damage that he has caused with his latest tantrum.
Yeah, Elon has said numerous times that no one would like to be him because of all the internal struggles and constant storms he has in his head. Well, maybe he should consider how it is working for a man with those kind of troubles. Running a company that has so many humans employed that laying off 10% of the workforce could start a major city anywhere in the world, does come with taking some god damn responsibility. If this is how he handles disputes internally, I'll never go to work for that company. And I imagine that this is the way much more people are going to look at Tesla in the future. Who the hell dares to work for someone who just casually lays of an entire department? The Supercharger team yesterday....... Could it be one of the gigafactories tomorrow? Who knows what Elon really wants? He used to have visions. Now he's just angry all the time.
CEO has a fiduciary responsibility to the shareholder. It isn't hard to guess why Elon mass layoff right now. I can see Tesla business is slowdown and Q2 number probably look worsen everyday. Q1 result was trash with 100% miss but only up held by FSD news. Q2 won't have any of that and it'll be bloodbath for Shareholder if Elon didn't do something
A lot of you clearly don’t understand business and are too soft to ever be in a leadership role. Nor are any of you hard enough to work at such a revolutionary company. Thank god you didn’t work there as you’d be canned in a week holding up production. Business is business people. It’s called if you’re not good enough and can’t follow a direction which elongates very little as you manage yourself. Then don’t be upset when you get fired for not doing your job Are all you millennials thinking you should get paid because you showed up and picked your nose? Go work your boring lazy day job as you wouldn’t be cut out for extreme responsibility
Yeah. Rebecca Tinucci pushed back at the demanded blood-letting and alpha make Elon turned demon to hurt her by sacking 90 per cent of her team. He might be a great technologist, but he sure as hell is a nasty human being.
The most troubling thing is that the answers to all of these questions were known to the just-fired Supercharging team. Had saner minds prevailed they should have extracted all of this knowledge first (at the very least) before letting the team go. This seems more and more like Elon's famed "Demon Mode" where he just rolls-in and rage-fires whomever is in his line of sight without considering the consequences. Again - where is the Board of Directors? We have an erratic/unpredictable (to be charitable) CEO which is actively causing material harm to shareholders/customers. And he wants his billions on top. I just don't get it...
Dear Electrify America: Please get off your rear ends, go out and find these laid off people and *hire* them so that you have a fighting chance to get a clue, if it's not already too late.
@@matten_zero I doubt that's the case. Tesla isn't hurting nearly enough for a this drastic step. Maybe they weren't performing as Elon wanted, maybe they just made him angry. Elon has good reasons for his on the spot big decisions most of the time, but occasionally his demons take over, and he fires people for small mistakes or just disagreeing. I have no idea which one this is. But I don't think he every fired an entire team for petty reasons, it's usually just the person he's talking to at the moment.
@@andrasbiro3007 Let's put it this way: - Slashing prices - Pulling up inventory - Impulsive decision of purchasing X. - CEO of too many damn companies - Chief Troll Officer at X (the dude posts like every few hours) - Firing most of Supercharger team and leaving vendors in the dark - Sharing FSD with China (just so they can put it in their own cars later and undercut Elon) I love what he has accomplished as an entrepreneur and how he deploys capital to make scifi stuff a reality, but as an engineer he's terrible and his authoritarian tendencies are starting to ruin these companies. He regularly supercedes his engineers and makes promises that border on fraud. As a former Elon fan I can admit I fell for the religious worship. But these last few weeks have made it clear he's kinda going off the rails or has too many things on his plate. Edit: Didn't even mention the failure and capital destruction that is most of SpaceX and Boring/HyperLoop
@@matten_zero What do you mean "retain" them? Isn't it obvious that Elon wants to cut these jobs to cut down on costs and increase profitability? Elon just wants to line his pockets with his comp package.
I used to work in industrial supply. Just because a shovel hasn't hit the ground doesn't mean money hasn't been spent. Vendors are going to be out millions. Hopefully they can sue for contract violations.
Sometimes projects get delayed. We're three days into this situation. Tesla moves quickly. There might be new guidance soon with minimal delays or losses.
I saw one independent installations contractor post a video that he was sad for those let go, & how, but understood that he & his peers would continue to be paid & supplied, PLUS new contractors and site owners, such as Walmart & "transitioning" BP, etc., gas stations, were already being scheduled for taking over from the old team's expansion projects. Also, that the "pudding proof" of the new deployment process would sooner than later suffice as "explanation" much better than Tesla attempting to convince the already doubting public of the veracity of their new approach.
That was my initial concern as well, but the narrative that he was trying to make an example of the lengths that he feels manager's should be willing to go to to make the business lean makes sense to me. At first I was wondering how bad the financials have to be to let go of such a critical department. But if it was more of a management statement, that is much less concerning. It's part of Tesla's culture to question the necessity of everything always, so such a dramatic action is not out of character. Elon's always ready to risk it all if he feels like it's the right thing to do. That willingness is what has gotten them where they are now. If he can reorganize this $#!+show in a few weeks and show a more efficient path forward, we might one day look back on this as a genius move.
Well stop trying to “sense” 😂 Some of you worry so much over things that literally have no green to you or your wellbeing or the first degree of influence in your life 😂
That’s just madness. Whoever has to clean up that department, I feel sorry for you because after you have probably done an excellent job, you will be gone too.
@@JohnSmith-pg7eo This is standard for people that work in IT related fields. So many of you have no idea that Tesla is NOT a car company. There are reasons people in tech fields get removed without a chance to login again. We have access to way too many things and can cause havoc on the way out otherwise.
I am reminded of the old phrase, Your lack of proper prior planning does not constitute an emergency on my part. My guess is that business partners will not be sympathetic with a company that seems to engage in capricious and childish practices.
His earning call was enlightening. The cars are what they are, supercharging exists, neat, but forget all that, FSD FSD FSD, robo taxi, AI, robots, if you don't believe we can solve autonomy, don't invest in Tesla, etc. Felt very different from years past when he was focused on delivering the 3/y and growing their volume and focused on manufacturing costs, etc. Not sure I really like this new Tesla and the direction it's headed.
@@Dularr"If Tesla was such a great place to be, why aren't you still there?" "Because it's run by a ketamine-addled sociopath who quells his tantrums with the money he sucks in from waves of mass firings."
I was in the middle of getting a site map for my land for possible Super Chargers when they fired the employee I was communicating with. Everything got scrapped and I really wanted Super Chargers for my customers
@@bearcubdaycare waiting on responses from Mojave Air, CALeVIP, and SCE. Equipment estimates are over $55K for ChargePoint, $50K for Loop, $38K for Blink, $25K for EVConnect. EVGo said no and Electrify wanted to sell 4 chargers at once.
@@andrasbiro3007 I am hoping they reestablish the Tesla team. They have way more resources, best equipment, and way more customers. The Yucca Valley Tesla fast chargers always have 3 times as many cars at the local EVGo fast chargers.
@@andrasbiro3007 I hope so. Tesla Superchargers have the best reliability and the most demand. I usually see Superchargers lots with 3 times as many cars as EVGo lots.
Active sites are dependent on what phase they are in. More than likely if your in phase one you just completing phase one and walking away until money comes in. Most sites are fronted by the companies building them until you reach milestones. So there are a lot of companies that are eating the costs of the construction because Tesla has not paid a bill. We have stopped all construction of our Tesla projects and everyone is laid-off. We have had virtually no contact with Tesla was just told to button up and no breaking on new ground. Elon just didn't fire his team, he screwed everyone who builds his chargers. There's thousands of us. Good job Elon!!!!
Why did you got fired instantly? It would make more sense to wait a few days for the dust to settle. 99% that constructions will continue. I think Elon already said something like it.
Hertz just took its largest write-down ever on its recently-acquired TSLA fleet, after Musk slashed prices. HTZ stock price collapsed on that news. -50% in the last year. That’s what happens when ppl trust Elon. Eventually all the burned bridges will turn TSLA into a pariah. Within 5 yrs the regulatory & legal woes will likely culminate in ch 11 restructuring.
It's arrogance for us nonbillionaires noninsiders to declare Tesla is dumb. It's like us saying a harvard surgeon is dumb, when we literally have no clue about the facts. I'd trust a mega billionaire over a UA-camr who lives far from DC..
@@amyself6678 We know it's erratic behavior and a shitty thing to do. And we can surmise it's a cost cutting move. Whatever it is, it's not good for EV.
This is clear indication that this was a middle of the night knee jerk reaction to something. There is clear lack of any kind of planning. This is what you get when you fire the team by email in the middle of the night.
@@toddmarshall7573And not a firing of Musk yet, for such an unprofessionally run firing, with so little consideration of consequences. He's spiraling down into destructive behavior, and top managers are jumping ship and selling their stock. A proper board doesn't let it get this far.
So Elon and the board fired all these people without first knowing what projects they are working on, and what stages they are on? I can't believe how chaotic this company run
If Elon wants to run his company this way I suppose it's his prerogative. Unfortunately he is spreading that chaos out to his partners and contractors which does not encourage others to want to work with Tesla. This loss of credibility will take years to rebuild.
Me too but I am not too optimistic. There just doesn’t seem like there is a good business strategy for a company to be profitable selling EV charging. Tesla’s charging infrastructure is great because it was an incentive for purchasing their vehicles. Electrify America is still working with Dieselgate money. EVGo and ChargePoint are in trouble financially from what I understand. This won’t make me too popular with other EV drivers but I think the answer is charging higher rates. People will pay more for premium service. Most charging happens at home so I think that EV drivers will pay more when they go on occasional roadtrips if they had a super reliable widespread charging network and the companies can use the extra revenue to actually give that product to drivers. The companies need to be realistic about what they need to have customers pay.
@@meandmyEV the reason its hard to be profitable as a charging company is because it HAS to be cheaper than gas cause then why would anyone use an EV? if you're paying over 40 cents per kwh for most of the US its more expensive than gasoline and a regular gas car goes further per dollar at that point. Places that see a lot of foot traffic for long periods like parking structures in cities, or malls can make it a good business model but most of the dollars you can charge is the cost of parking thats profit. Having a supercharger site in the middle of nowhere doesnt make sense when compared to just expanding existing sites they have now.
@@meandmyEV - "doesn’t seem like there is a good business strategy for a company to be profitable selling EV charging". True, because there isn't a good business model for EV charging stations (like there was/is for gas stations), so it is dependent on government subsidies.
Won't. But I really don't understand why everyone thinks this is the end of the world. Elon will just hire a new team and work continues. Soon nobody will remember this whole drama. The proof of this is that you already forgot a couple of similar dramas.
I really don't understand this overly dramatic panicking. People act like Elon is shutting down the entire network. That's not even a remote possibility, absolutely nothing like that is happening. What is happening is he's replacing the team that's responsible for the expansion of the network. And it will keep expanding, just with a different strategy.
@annacroixx I agree. Elon is amongst a very few good people who can and is willing to stand up against thugs, even if it means losing money. “Give me money. Give me power. I don’t care”
@annacroixx I'm not sure. He has a dark side too, and can act irrationally if someone pisses him off. But usually he just fires that one person, so there has to be something more here.
@@andrasbiro3007 Let me help you. This is like building all the bridges throughout the US but planting remote controlled explosives in each one you could detonate with the push of a button. Elon just pushed the button!
@@pthompson240 I don't even understand how that analogy is supposed to work. Literally nothing has changed as far as the outside world is concerned. It's standard corporate restructuring, just a bit more drastic. Not the first for Tesla, and not unique to Tesla either.
re: "This firing is another Elon tantrum..." YAAAAHTTTZEEE...!!! despite the display of "Ego-mania" staring us in the face, many don't want to deal with it.
From my plea on Twitter, a number of condominiums reached out to me and are in a similar position of trying to get their L2 installations up and running. The biggest gap we're experiencing is getting access to the management dashboard that controls pricing for the L2 installations. I actually think the L2 impacts could be more impactful than the superchargers. It isn't the company that acted irrationally, it was one individual with a God complex and zero consideration to his customers and partners.
@@philliptemple9841 then why did Hilton contract with them to install L2 charging at 2,000 hotels in North America? They're 2nd most popular in the nation behind ChargePoint for L2 sites... They were absolutely involved in L2!
@@philliptemple9841I've used Tesla level 2 destination chargers. They're on the supercharger map, and not few in number. (In fact, every Tesla home charger is a level 2 charger as well.). I'd say they're rather involved.
This has nothing to do with utilities??? This is Tesla slowing down the superchargers. They are going to increase the number of chargers if the area needs them, and make sure all the chargers are working at 100%. There are plenty of superchargers in the US, they will bring some people back and make it lean and working very well!!!!!
This is not how you run a serious company. All the partner auto makers, The land deals, the power companies, etc. I can’t help but notice Tesla didn’t sell their supercharger division or spin it off, they just killed it. Businesses with a huge market advantage don’t usually just abandon a profit center. If Tesla can’t make charging long-term profitable, can others realistically do it? I want to believe they can, but realistically there aren’t a lot of signs pointing to it. And Australian charging company that operates in 42 countries, announce bankruptcy 12 hours after Tesla announce the supercharger cut.
The profit margins on supercharging are not great at all it’s buried in the financials but there. If it was a true cash cow musk and the board wouldn’t be throttling back on it
Just like gas stations really don’t make a lot of money from selling fuel… DC fast charging operators also do not. For one… EVs don’t have a large saturation as yet. This market is only 10+ years old. The smart DC FC operators install their charges where people can get something to eat.. like big gas stations.
Apparently vehicle charging is a low-margin business. Outside of the gas station model of selling high-margin convenience items, it doesn't really make sense. Elon had stated that the supercharging business was running low margins at near cost in ideal circumstances. It was mainly operated as a necessary service to enable the viability of the vehicles. By running the supercharger business this way it was near impossible for other companies to compete. Tesla taking a pause and transferring partially completed sites to competitors seems like the competition's only opportunity to even having a chance at capturing market share, and it's still a terrible business to be in. Without government subsidies or some other profit center I can't imagine why a company would want to be in this business.
Operating locations does expose Tesla to fear of accidents or rapes or stuff. It's a risk, when the profit is in selling cars. Tesla built the network a decade ago cuz no one else would, but now others will. Elon even knows the new stations will be Tesla compatible, so he literally can smile and not worry about charging anymore.. And I wonder if Elon has locked up supplies so he can now resell at hi price equipment. He must have reasons . And I'd bet he has lost patience with cities and Biden, so out of frustration alone is avoiding this hassle to focus on car making.. A tech company shouldn't be operating 1000 retail locations and seeking to add more it's almost silly to attempt but Tesla needed a network till now.
Why would any of Tesla’s “partners” in the on-going construction want to continue any of the current construction when there is such a high degree of uncertainty if they are actually going to get paid for their work or materials?
@@terjepetersen Currently they have no way to pay and have asked partners to be "patient" while they figure that out. Contractors may not be willing to extend Tesla that courtesy. Its not an unwillingness to pay its an inability to pay.
This is mind boggling. Tesla is a tech company. They excel at data acquisition. You have to buy/lease property for your superchargers. Permitting, finance, contracting, etc. It's about record keeping. All the principle people were let go, that makes no sense.
Fun fact: Robotaxis are another Tesla myth. They have not filed for the necessary permits for the autonomous taxi in one city in this country yet. Not one. The permitting process takes years. So how exactly is this going to happen by August?
@@soundmindbodydivine That's a lot of bullshit. FYI, many American cities don't require any permit, anyone can start a robotaxi service tomorrow. And nobody said it will happen by August. The unveiling will be in August. That can be years ahead of the actual launch.
@@XanthopteryxBe careful. You're gonna break the hearts of people who thought they knew about business when all they really knew was money printer go brrrr.
7:10 their bankrupt. That's the only rationalization. I worked at a startup that was not paying vendors near the end and did stuff like what Tesla is doing. It puts Elons récent sale of Tesla stock and his asking for a payout into perspective
As a Polestar owner, this whole situation saddens me. We were supposed to be one of the next in line for Supercharger access, likely next month. I had my A2Z charger adapter ready to go and everything. Now? Who knows. Definitely making me rethink the cross-country road trip I was planning this summer with my new SC access.
Ford already told their customers that the adapters will be delayed due to supply issues. I would be really surprised if Tesla will provide access to the SC network to Polestar now. P.S. I have a P2 but don’t roadtrip with it.
@@happyhippo1710 Yeah I realize there are other ways to drive across the country. I've done it many times. I was looking forward to doing it in my car.
This continues to get worse by the day the fact they fired all these people without knowing who the contact people were, and without knowing what their contract your obligations and contacts were indicates complete malfeasance in the execution of this layoff. I’ve been involved in layoffs from both sides and the key. Any layoff is understanding what the exact impact will be of a layoff, knowing who you can just do without and cannot do without and who’s gonna take over the work they’re doing and who their points of contact are. This is just bonkers.
It's not a layoff. Elon fired them because their boss said no to him. If she was insubordinate, fair enough she has to go, but firing her team is just childish.
I imagine it differently. As opposed to him getting emotional that someone didn't obey him, I imagine him being cold and calculating and showing that no entity is above being removed and reorganized if they are not functioning efficiently, damn the consequences.
A good company when it feels a investment will be unprofitable does act in big fashion and not care if it looks erratic. Sunk costs be damned, and PR be damned. With all now adopted the Tesla plug finally Elon can offload the job of building million charge sites to good old Biden, Elon held off till he won the standards war like a genius. I wonder if this will save him $100b, if it's this much and he has other use for the money then it's the right call.
Apparently you know nothing about him. Go read everything you can on him. Listen to ex employees You’ll understand he doesn’t have time for BS. Thinks guy who was willing to sleep in the factory for years. Not take many vacations. Think he’s a soft guy??????
@@ssing7113 So you regard the most successful network of it's kind as bullshit huh? Interesting. I have "read" plenty about him. I know all about the sleeping in the factory crap. That just means he's an incompetent manager, or a prima donna, or maybe just a massive eccentric. Either way. You think that's commendable. I think it's stupid.
It's as if Elon fired the team in an emotional burst and now trying to pickup the broken pieces from that knee jerk reaction. This shows a clear lack of good judgement from Elon and will certainly diminish their reputation and take a long time to recover from this because years long talent are now gone and will not be easy to replace.
That is exactly what Electrek is reporting. Elmo had a hissy fit when Rebecca pushed back against how many to fire and he fired the whole team to make an example.
He isn't trying to pick up the pieces, some fool that still choses to work there is having to do that and is going to be the one in the future that he fires for not cleaning it up fast/well enough.
If only they could have planned some transition where they identified existing projects and communicated with partners about the plan going forward, like a mature organization. Oh wait...
When you think of the many companies, large and small, that would be involved in a new site, the ripple effects could be staggering. A smaller company may have hired new workers, purchased equipment and materials. A halt could bankrupt them. I agree that this might open the door for more organizations to take over and prevent a monopoly or near monopoly in the charging market. That said, there will be a lot of pain in the process.
Elon has shown time and time again that he's not afraid of maximum pain. I just hope he can turn this around quickly and minimize the damage for Tesla's partners who didn't sign up for this chaos.
Be patient getting paid is not something a well run company says to its suppliers. If I were a lender I would be concerned there is a cash flow problem.
I just bought a Tesla under the assumption, based on NACS being standardized, and other companies adopting it, and Tesla having developed quick-to-deploy modular dispenser islands, that I would have a way to charge it away from my home on an ever expanding charging network. I excluded buying any of the current CCS equipped cars as obsolete or soon to be. I feel deceived by Musk, to just arbitrarily stop completion of the charging network that made the Tesla specifically my choice. Looks like my next car will be a Benz or a Cadillac. Fool me once …
So you bought a car with the most extensive charging network in the world, are disappointed they will grow it more slowly, and now want to go to a company with no charging network. OK. Phillip.
@@philliptemple9841the most extensive network in the world? Do you think that a “stop all construction” order is coming from a company that wants to keep it that way?
Yep, I'm guessing you aren't alone. Lot's of Tesla owners should be pissed at this bait and switch. I'm glad I got the Mach e but was looking forward to gaining access to the Tesla network. No biggie though personally as I only bought an EV to charge it from my excess solar power! And have ICE vehicles for longer trips.
The one area where Tesla (and Elon's multiverse) had the best reputation was not Twitter/X, not Tesla cars, not the Boring Company and not even Space X was the Tesla charging network and they (he?) managed to now screw that up too.Almost every other major player in the BEV market signed on and now this? I think it's time for a company's mascot to be let go and let the the within the company who have been the real innovators shine for a moment.
I’m speculating that this has something to do with the doubling down of autonomy/Robo taxi. If autonomy is the dream, then I would assume they’re trying to take the human input out of the charging experience as well. What makes sense to me, again, fully speculating here, is that they are going to redesign the superchargers to connect and plug into the car without the need for human input. Any thoughts on this?
This has all the earmarks of an off-the-cuff, 15 second decision by Elmo. Someone asked him how they would know who to fire and his response was: "er, well, fire them all. Fire all of them."
That email is just an excuse for delaying payments, by trying to say that they don't know what's going on. I can imagine Musk walking into a meeting and saying " I'm done with charging, I'm not putting any more money into this" this follows on from the latest government funding /handouts requirements basically said that current Tesla charging standards don't qualify for the money.
Hey Kyle, have you verified that you can still charge the Rivian on the supercharger network? I haven't seen anyone verify that yet. I also wonder if this will delay the shipment of new adapters. I'm waiting for mine for my R1S....
If you've fired everyone who knows how the system works, who are you going to find to stop Rivians from charging? Different story for OEMs who don't yet have access.
Great. Tesla was just awarded NEVI money to build a new Supercharger site to help fill in the infamous 200 mile gap on I-40 between Oklahoma City and Van Buren, Arkansas, a real no-go area for Tesla drivers. Luckily there are a couple of ChargePoints and Francis charging sites along that road to take up the slack, although one of the Francis sites has been totally dead for over a year now due to being wiped out by a tornado.
I made that stretch last year on the way to the Grand Canyon. On the way back I decided to go through Tulsa instead. It definitely needs a station along that stretch. Oh well not anymore I suppose.
@@andyfeimsternfei8408 It's not a big deal for some Tesla's. Kyle never drives it and he and many other UA-camrs specifically mention that stretch as a no-go for them when they do cross-country roadtrips. Despite being a reallyl good straight-shot route across the US, it is woefully underbuilt with Superchargers. But in the grand scheme of things, that gap also means there is no non-Tesla support Superchargers and no Magic Dock-equipped sites along that stretch either. In fact, there are no Magic Dock-equipped sites all the way across Oklahoma and well on into both Texas and Arkansas. Add this to the fact there are no north-south highways in Oklahoma equipped with Superchargers at all other than I-35. It is 270 miles from I-40 to I-70 where the next Superchargers are. Try that in the wintertime. Tesla needs lots more Supercharger sites in the middle of the country but evidently they don't have any plans to build any more than what currently exists and are scrapping the plans to build with NEVI money. Hopefully the states will redistribute that money quickly so that new infrastructure can be built soon.
Real explanation: Elon got dumped by his latest girlfriend, and his main girlfriend found out about it. Unfortunately, the head of supercharging was the first person he saw the next morning.
I've already seen multiple major sites cancelled across the country. In Philadelphia, a 64-stall, single charging station has also been canceled. Construction crews have been told to stand down and end all work on this site. This is insanity.
As a veteran in construction industry, really sad to realize even the top notch tech company doesn’t have a good project management tool. Data management is such a bitch. And somehow no one out enough investment into it. Crazy all these information are not centralized and managed with a single tool.
Dear reader, whomever you are, we have recently shot ourselves in the foot. Please be patient and carry the financial burden for us while we figure out what we did to ourselves. Oh and to you too. Oopsie!
My wife had been eyeing a Model 3. She gets the sporty car and I get work pickups. Elon’s been alienating her more and more lately. I showed her your video about this from yesterday and then asked if she was still getting a Tesla. She said, no and that she’s now considering a Mach E or Ioniq 5. It’ll be interesting to see how Musk’s latest self imposed PR disaster reduces Tesla sales
@@doomsday9973 Honestly, at this point I would rather suffer twice the inconvenience than to give Elon Musk even 1 dollar. I could not imagine working for a prick like him. The employees who he fired in his tantrum are real people whose lives should not have to be disrupted. How many of those employees have challenges, like a family member with cancer, and now have to needlessly look for a new job? Any company that treats its employees so poorly should get its whole workforce unionized.
@@JasonEDragon layoffs suck. Google is laying off more now and replacing with lower wage overseas workers. Rivian just laid off hundreds more. All lives interrupted had families. Insurance etc. welcome to capitalism. It’s not a companies job to provide cradle to grave security. If layoffs are your issue you aren’t going to be spending much of your money anywhere
So your buying a Mach E, but your in the Tesla chat, shouldn’t you be in the Mach E chat room? If I don’t like something, car, dishwasher, restaurant, I don’t spend time watching videos.about it. If you want to have a real wake up go research Ford’s EV plans and the 10s of billions it’s losing because it got a late start. 😂😂😂
Second to Teslas, charging network has been their locations. If I ran a charging business I would buy as many of their sites as possible. Prime, high traffic locations.
That takes a lot of capital which is expensive and harder to get right now. The whole knee jerk halting of new factory deals and groundbreaking along with this on superchargers kind of seems like an emergency halt to capital spending. Maybe a concern that it could make them way over-extended instead of bumping up the profit margin by maxing out the current factories and superchargers. But yes, it does add concerns for would be customers that are wary about range anxiety while expecting a continued expansion of the network.
@@damanfromtn But it's while spending several billions on FSD and AI. More a capital reallocation from a functioning business with the potential for 10x growth to some laboratory projects. (Yes, I used the FSD trial in April, stunning that anyone thought it was anywhere near ready.)
One would hope that Tesla shareholders who were previously on the fence will take this as a good reason to vote "no" on Elon Musk's oversized pay package.
@@doomsday9973 not yet anyway, but wait for it... WAIT... FOR... IT... haven't read it yet, but yes i DID see a headline regarding the demise of a 2nd "whistler".
@@doomsday9973 Fired Tesla employees know better than to get behind the wheel of a Tesla once they no longer work there. Tesla whistleblowers stay in the house under the bed covers with an extra layer of tinfoil.
Honest question, is there any money to be made for private business to build and maintain charging stations? I mean with gas stations, the fuel companies have a captive consumer base. Every EV owner I talk with claims to charge overnight at home. The only time they use fast charging is on road trips and that is only if they don’t have a second ICE vehicle for longer trips. I guess I don’t see the business model or payback on investment for private industry.
I charge at Superchargers after 11 pm since they’re cheaper than me charging at home. I’m not the only one there. Actually, there are more and more people charging at that time lately. Not sure if it has something to do with the local utility raising prices recently. Also, some EV owners can’t charge at home since they live in an apartment complex.
@@johntazbaz1121 I never said there weren’t folks like you who use charging stations but I’m somewhat doubtful that it would be profitable for a private industry to build them. There are 8 superchargers 1 mile from my house. No one uses them from Mon. - Thursday. I do see a couple of people using them on Fridays,Saturdays and Sundays. I just don’t see how a company could make money on them. Also, if you live in an apartment, EV’s make little to no sense with current charging speeds and quantity of chargers.
The thing is, despite how crazy Tesla is sometimes, many of the other charging networks have been so bad in so many other ways. Is anyone going to step up and be the adult in the room?
This action is contradicts Tesla’s mission statement of “transition to sustainable energy.” Without more charging infrastructure, fewer people will buy EVs. 40% of US population lives in condos, HOAs, and apartments where charging is unlikely. They are forced to use SuC’s.
Tesla was getting ready to install 42 super chargers a block away from my house in San jose,ca. They brought the chargers in crates. Then about 3 weeks ago everything stop . It's all fenced off now.
Extremely disappointed in Tesla. Ice cars already go farther than an EV. And still when you stop there are 4 gas stations on every corner. We all know that. Many of us are willing to make the sacrifice because we see the advantages evs have over ice and we can see a future with cleaner air around us. We need those chargers for long trips
The company for whom I work has recently announced that it's closing down my division, phased out over the next five years. At least they announced this to our partners first and explained that they will honour all commitments. No-one has been fired yet. We've been given a timeline for when we will be made redundant and have been asked to organise things such as knowledge transfer to ensure that the company infrastructure will remain stable/viable for partners who need support in the future. A lot of partners are understandably pretty pissed but this is saintly behaviour compared to how Tesla is going about things herre.
How can you call T a reputable company after all the failed promisses?how is your Beast CT doing? Got all what you ordered yet. FSD? Every other features?
No one is going to do business with Tesla moving forward. This is the beginning of the end for them. Their shareholders should be very angry! Time for a new CEO.
@@doomsday9973 He is. This kind of behavior has substantial repercussions. I'll defend Musk on some things, but this is just erratic in Tesla's relations with other companies, and in full public view.
I can't imagine what the end goal might be here, but this seems like a STUPID way of going about it and treating all those involved. HORRIBLE for the brand!!!
I believe that lots of folks trying to buy/lease an EV irrespective of brand preference will refuse to go on to use BEVs in North America. If they have home charging they might go with a PHEV, otherwise just with a HEV, the way Toyota pushes ideas on customers. However lots of folks will just go with an ICE vehicle, unfortunately.
@@nevco8774 I agree. I have owned a Tesla for the last 3.5 years and although it has served me well, I am ready to move on to something else. I charge mostly at home, but I don't want to spend $100k on my next car and not feel comfortable in driving it anywhere I want to go. I live in Canada and was already prepared for the public fast charging to be a hot mess for the next 3-5 years, but stunts like we see here have thrown a wrench into the steaming pile. I was considerinng all options, but this may have made the choice for my next vehicle a little easier. Unfortunate in deed!!
This is terrible news for the BEV industry as a whole. Tesla had a reliable and extensive charging network; they were #1 in that regard. Now the entire team behind it is gone. How long before it falls apart? The only hope for the BEV industry is for companies like Kempower to snap up these employees and roll out their own products. In all likelihood the transfer of the industry to NACS is going to take much longer now.
@@nevco8774 That is a possibility; but I am thinking other charger makers might include it like some makers include Chademo. Given that NACS & CCS now use the same communication protocol, it is possible that eventually NACS will replace CCS if other charging vendors include it. But without Tesla to push it, there’s more inertia to overcome and it will take longer.
Each construction project (new supercharger site) requires Project Management and contract management. I can understand why Tesla put a hold on projects about to start, because a lack of a Project Manager makes construction almost impossible. The key issue is that projects ready to go likely have signed contracts with the contractor and the electric utility, so Tesla will see a lot of legal claims against them if they don't proceed. This will be a big mess to clean up.
In the U.S., there are 2,234 Tesla Supercharger stations with 25,156 Tesla Supercharger ports. California has the most Tesla Supercharger stations (448) and the most Tesla Supercharger ports (6,913). Tesla Prefabricated Supercharger Units (PSUs) are made at its plant in Buffalo, New York. About 80% of all EV charging takes place at home, according to the Department of Energy.
Honestly, it's crazy to me that the Tesla supercharging department doesn't have SOP's and complete documentation on every job in their division. If you're managing a business well, or a portion of a business, and someone gets fired, quits, etc. it's imperative that a new employee can jump right in and do any the job effectively. It sounds like Tesla charging was already mess internally.
I don’t think any company has roles and duties documented in such detail that a new hire could learn what to do based solely on the docs. Experienced people on the team train a new hire. That’s how it always works. There isn’t a SC team anymore. So the new members of the new SC team will have to wing it, regardless of how well things are documented, and there will be a massive level of confusion and uncertainty in the foreseeable future.
As current driver of a PHEV for the past year, I am seriously considering purchasing a pure EV (NON TESLA). Most of the driving I have done this year has been done in pure EV mode and I am REALLY enjoying the EV drive experience. I thought my biggest hurdle on this decision was the massive depreciation of a new BEV, but now with this news, will this put a dent on the already scarce charging infrastructure (at least where I am)? I am now worried that with this news, will this add to the already high depreciation of all BEV's? When Tesla cut their new car prices it hurt all BEV resale values. If it seems that they are not expanding (or even supporting) their charging network, will this in turn hurt the entire charging industry? If a company that solely produces BEV's is not willing to put employees behind the infrastructure that makes their product work, what does that say to the rest of the EV industry? I wish the entire EV market was not so closely controlled by the whims of a crazy man!
I’d hold off on getting a pure EV until we see how much this affects the industry as a whole. I’m thinking PHEV and HEV is the way to go right now until things stabilize somewhat.
15:33 idk man this is not really how a “reputable” org conducts business .. but I do see your point that they are reputable enough to pay HOWEVER will they pay for like you mentioned all of the permitting and planning and maybe pre-installation work like transformers installed like you said etc or will they just say “well we didn’t break ground so we’re not paying for your pre-development costs” … what a frikkin disaster dumpster fire + the charging network was both profitable AND a huge selling point .. again teslas do NOT have the best interiors many buyers choose them bc of the supercharging network .. why on earth would tesla or more likely Elon do this?!
Umm, hate to disagree but this does seem like exactly the time to overreact. This email literally says “we have no idea what’s happening because we fired everyone who did.”
Tesla has the data if they need more stations or if they need to expand existing stations. Everyone that doesn't work for Tesla that has zero knowledge of anything is not smarter than Tesla.
The email doesn't remotely say that.
@@SirDragonClaw It doesn't use those words, but it does say that.
Time to overreact...why? Are the SCs down? Tesla has stopped SC additions. OK. The sky is not falling in spite of all the You Tube hysteria. EV sales are stalling everywhere. Hybrids sales in California now outnumber EV sales. Regardless of what you think of Musk, he is an astute businessman.
@@melvinholland9656 The time to overreact is BEFORE they're down. Superchargers are not more reliable than other DC fast chargers because they are red and white or because they say "TESLA" on them! They're more reliable because they have been well maintained, and that stopped this week. It's just a matter of time before the problems mount.
"At this time we can't find our asses with both hands and a flashlight. Thank you for your patience while we search for a mirror."
😂😂😂for real
Perhaps they could put a high polish on a Cybertruck🤔
when, YOU become complacent , time for YOU to leave.
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@@markplott4820 Could YOU please learn to PUNCTUATE your endless nonsense CORRECTLY?
The way this was done indicates to me that there is no coherent plan. I hope I'm wrong, but this looks bad.
Elon is gonna Elon..
@@scoty_does Which means its gonna work and work big I guess.
@@ultrastoat3298 I'm a one time Elon fan boy but im starting to wonder if we witnessed peak Elon and its all down hill from here.
Kinda rhymes with what happened with Twitter/X. I’d say quite a bit more important in the grand scheme .
Time for an adult to replace the petulant though smart innovator in chief to run Tesla as a responsible ongoing concern.
Having been laid off in the past I have to say that the method employed here speaks volumes about how Elon/esla feels about Human Resources. Again - see Xitter - and that remains a mess.
It makes sense if Musk wanted to send a strong message to his lieutenants. And in the context of a slowing global economy...it might be exactly what's needed.
The inside word is that Musk is in demon mode( angry and sadistic) usually when he goes through these phases he takes it out on his employees, this time he sent emails that he wanted layoffs, employees had so little time that many only found out when they showed up to work and were escorted out like trash. The lady in charge of the supercharger network pushed back to protect the workers underneath her and he blew up and ordered her and most of the dept fired without any consideration of the potential damage to the company, now people are scrambling to try to contain the damage that he has caused with his latest tantrum.
Yeah, Elon has said numerous times that no one would like to be him because of all the internal struggles and constant storms he has in his head. Well, maybe he should consider how it is working for a man with those kind of troubles. Running a company that has so many humans employed that laying off 10% of the workforce could start a major city anywhere in the world, does come with taking some god damn responsibility.
If this is how he handles disputes internally, I'll never go to work for that company. And I imagine that this is the way much more people are going to look at Tesla in the future. Who the hell dares to work for someone who just casually lays of an entire department?
The Supercharger team yesterday....... Could it be one of the gigafactories tomorrow? Who knows what Elon really wants? He used to have visions. Now he's just angry all the time.
CEO has a fiduciary responsibility to the shareholder. It isn't hard to guess why Elon mass layoff right now. I can see Tesla business is slowdown and Q2 number probably look worsen everyday. Q1 result was trash with 100% miss but only up held by FSD news. Q2 won't have any of that and it'll be bloodbath for Shareholder if Elon didn't do something
A lot of you clearly don’t understand business and are too soft to ever be in a leadership role.
Nor are any of you hard enough to work at such a revolutionary company. Thank god you didn’t work there as you’d be canned in a week holding up production.
Business is business people. It’s called if you’re not good enough and can’t follow a direction which elongates very little as you manage yourself. Then don’t be upset when you get fired for not doing your job
Are all you millennials thinking you should get paid because you showed up and picked your nose?
Go work your boring lazy day job as you wouldn’t be cut out for extreme responsibility
Yeah. Rebecca Tinucci pushed back at the demanded blood-letting and alpha make Elon turned demon to hurt her by sacking 90 per cent of her team. He might be a great technologist, but he sure as hell is a nasty human being.
@@nallemanstankarochfunderin5962 I would go to work for Musk in an instant.
The most troubling thing is that the answers to all of these questions were known to the just-fired Supercharging team. Had saner minds prevailed they should have extracted all of this knowledge first (at the very least) before letting the team go. This seems more and more like Elon's famed "Demon Mode" where he just rolls-in and rage-fires whomever is in his line of sight without considering the consequences. Again - where is the Board of Directors? We have an erratic/unpredictable (to be charitable) CEO which is actively causing material harm to shareholders/customers. And he wants his billions on top. I just don't get it...
his rage firing is legendary...
I think we just need to see what happens…..too much speculation…
The board of directors have Elon's starfish prints on their lips.
The stock price is relatively stable
@@MrFYoung For now.
Dear Electrify America: Please get off your rear ends, go out and find these laid off people and *hire* them so that you have a fighting chance to get a clue, if it's not already too late.
They are probably hurting as well. If Tesla can't retain them, I can't see how EA would have better books. This is assuming Tesla's books are clean
It's not about the team, but the leadership. They simply don't care.
@@matten_zero
I doubt that's the case. Tesla isn't hurting nearly enough for a this drastic step. Maybe they weren't performing as Elon wanted, maybe they just made him angry. Elon has good reasons for his on the spot big decisions most of the time, but occasionally his demons take over, and he fires people for small mistakes or just disagreeing. I have no idea which one this is. But I don't think he every fired an entire team for petty reasons, it's usually just the person he's talking to at the moment.
@@andrasbiro3007 Let's put it this way:
- Slashing prices
- Pulling up inventory
- Impulsive decision of purchasing X.
- CEO of too many damn companies
- Chief Troll Officer at X (the dude posts like every few hours)
- Firing most of Supercharger team and leaving vendors in the dark
- Sharing FSD with China (just so they can put it in their own cars later and undercut Elon)
I love what he has accomplished as an entrepreneur and how he deploys capital to make scifi stuff a reality, but as an engineer he's terrible and his authoritarian tendencies are starting to ruin these companies. He regularly supercedes his engineers and makes promises that border on fraud. As a former Elon fan I can admit I fell for the religious worship. But these last few weeks have made it clear he's kinda going off the rails or has too many things on his plate.
Edit: Didn't even mention the failure and capital destruction that is most of SpaceX and Boring/HyperLoop
@@matten_zero What do you mean "retain" them? Isn't it obvious that Elon wants to cut these jobs to cut down on costs and increase profitability? Elon just wants to line his pockets with his comp package.
I used to work in industrial supply. Just because a shovel hasn't hit the ground doesn't mean money hasn't been spent. Vendors are going to be out millions. Hopefully they can sue for contract violations.
Sometimes projects get delayed. We're three days into this situation. Tesla moves quickly. There might be new guidance soon with minimal delays or losses.
I saw one independent installations contractor post a video that he was sad for those let go, & how, but understood that he & his peers would continue to be paid & supplied, PLUS new contractors and site owners, such as Walmart & "transitioning" BP, etc., gas stations, were already being scheduled for taking over from the old team's expansion projects. Also, that the "pudding proof" of the new deployment process would sooner than later suffice as "explanation" much better than Tesla attempting to convince the already doubting public of the veracity of their new approach.
Getting the sense that things are worse than thought at Tesla
That was my initial concern as well, but the narrative that he was trying to make an example of the lengths that he feels manager's should be willing to go to to make the business lean makes sense to me. At first I was wondering how bad the financials have to be to let go of such a critical department. But if it was more of a management statement, that is much less concerning. It's part of Tesla's culture to question the necessity of everything always, so such a dramatic action is not out of character. Elon's always ready to risk it all if he feels like it's the right thing to do. That willingness is what has gotten them where they are now. If he can reorganize this $#!+show in a few weeks and show a more efficient path forward, we might one day look back on this as a genius move.
Well stop trying to “sense” 😂
Some of you worry so much over things that literally have no green to you or your wellbeing or the first degree of influence in your life 😂
That’s just madness. Whoever has to clean up that department, I feel sorry for you because after you have probably done an excellent job, you will be gone too.
Unless you’re desperate no talented person is going to work for Tesla anymore.
@@JohnSmith-pg7eo Agree, you could not rely on any form of stability regardless of your performance.
@@JohnSmith-pg7eo This is standard for people that work in IT related fields. So many of you have no idea that Tesla is NOT a car company. There are reasons people in tech fields get removed without a chance to login again. We have access to way too many things and can cause havoc on the way out otherwise.
The classic hatchet man gets the hatchet
@@rp9674 Tesla could let him take his sink on the way out.
I'm here for the drama 😎
Right? Just Elon eloning. Thriller popcorn gif
@@MrFYoung 🍿🍿🍿
I am reminded of the old phrase, Your lack of proper prior planning does not constitute an emergency on my part. My guess is that business partners will not be sympathetic with a company that seems to engage in capricious and childish practices.
Tesla’s credibility as a business partner Took a big hit with this.
So many people were complaining that Musk wasn’t spending enough time at Tesla. Well, he is now.
Be careful what you wish for.
Truth.
His earning call was enlightening. The cars are what they are, supercharging exists, neat, but forget all that, FSD FSD FSD, robo taxi, AI, robots, if you don't believe we can solve autonomy, don't invest in Tesla, etc. Felt very different from years past when he was focused on delivering the 3/y and growing their volume and focused on manufacturing costs, etc. Not sure I really like this new Tesla and the direction it's headed.
😂😂😂
Ow, my monkey's paw hurts!
@@tazeatit sounds like he's completely forgotten Tesla's mission, and is going to burn the company down trying to make an autonomous car for his ego.
Why anyone would want to work at Tesla at this point is beyond me. Elon needs to be either humbled or ousted.
Ousted. Elon’s ego just put the entire US EV industry on its asp!
Having Tesla on your resume is beneficial.
@@Dularr"If Tesla was such a great place to be, why aren't you still there?"
"Because it's run by a ketamine-addled sociopath who quells his tantrums with the money he sucks in from waves of mass firings."
@@Dularr One still has to go through the cost benefit analysis. Is the cost worth the benefit?
Stupidest sht I heard all day however ty veterans for th choice to proclaim such NONSENSE tehehe
This smells like the result of another midnight tantrum leaving those who remain to clean up the mess.
I was in the middle of getting a site map for my land for possible Super Chargers when they fired the employee I was communicating with. Everything got scrapped and I really wanted Super Chargers for my customers
Contact a competitor like ChargePoint, perhaps, while federal and state grants are still available.
Wait a little, things will be smoothed out.
@@bearcubdaycare waiting on responses from Mojave Air, CALeVIP, and SCE. Equipment estimates are over $55K for ChargePoint, $50K for Loop, $38K for Blink, $25K for EVConnect. EVGo said no and Electrify wanted to sell 4 chargers at once.
@@andrasbiro3007 I am hoping they reestablish the Tesla team. They have way more resources, best equipment, and way more customers. The Yucca Valley Tesla fast chargers always have 3 times as many cars at the local EVGo fast chargers.
@@andrasbiro3007 I hope so. Tesla Superchargers have the best reliability and the most demand. I usually see Superchargers lots with 3 times as many cars as EVGo lots.
After hearing that email to partners... wow, and I thought Fisker had screwed things up. Tesla: hold my beer.
Active sites are dependent on what phase they are in. More than likely if your in phase one you just completing phase one and walking away until money comes in. Most sites are fronted by the companies building them until you reach milestones. So there are a lot of companies that are eating the costs of the construction because Tesla has not paid a bill. We have stopped all construction of our Tesla projects and everyone is laid-off. We have had virtually no contact with Tesla was just told to button up and no breaking on new ground. Elon just didn't fire his team, he screwed everyone who builds his chargers. There's thousands of us. Good job Elon!!!!
Why did you got fired instantly? It would make more sense to wait a few days for the dust to settle. 99% that constructions will continue. I think Elon already said something like it.
Hertz just took its largest write-down ever on its recently-acquired TSLA fleet, after Musk slashed prices. HTZ stock price collapsed on that news. -50% in the last year.
That’s what happens when ppl trust Elon. Eventually all the burned bridges will turn TSLA into a pariah. Within 5 yrs the regulatory & legal woes will likely culminate in ch 11 restructuring.
I am a prime contractor and builder in Canada. We have 3 sites on the go and I have heard nothing from no one…
Really incredible.
The whole charging fiasco is a sign to me that Elon may have gone full boat cra-cra.
Possibly cra-cra like a fox
It's arrogance for us nonbillionaires noninsiders to declare Tesla is dumb. It's like us saying a harvard surgeon is dumb, when we literally have no clue about the facts. I'd trust a mega billionaire over a UA-camr who lives far from DC..
@@amyself6678 We know it's erratic behavior and a shitty thing to do. And we can surmise it's a cost cutting move. Whatever it is, it's not good for EV.
This is clear indication that this was a middle of the night knee jerk reaction to something.
There is clear lack of any kind of planning.
This is what you get when you fire the team by email in the middle of the night.
We're two days into this and not a peep.
@@toddmarshall7573And not a firing of Musk yet, for such an unprofessionally run firing, with so little consideration of consequences. He's spiraling down into destructive behavior, and top managers are jumping ship and selling their stock. A proper board doesn't let it get this far.
We're doing great, we want a raise. You're fired
Very Trump-like
So Elon and the board fired all these people without first knowing what projects they are working on, and what stages they are on? I can't believe how chaotic this company run
Elon. What board?
If Elon wants to run his company this way I suppose it's his prerogative. Unfortunately he is spreading that chaos out to his partners and contractors which does not encourage others to want to work with Tesla. This loss of credibility will take years to rebuild.
@@JeanPierreWhite It starts with getting rid of the problem.
@@JeanPierreWhitethe problem is Tesla is a publicly traded company. So it not ‘his company’ alone.
It's all a con that's beginning to collapse now that tesla is the old dog on the block.
I hope other charging networks step up and get their gears working.
Me too but I am not too optimistic. There just doesn’t seem like there is a good business strategy for a company to be profitable selling EV charging. Tesla’s charging infrastructure is great because it was an incentive for purchasing their vehicles. Electrify America is still working with Dieselgate money. EVGo and ChargePoint are in trouble financially from what I understand. This won’t make me too popular with other EV drivers but I think the answer is charging higher rates. People will pay more for premium service. Most charging happens at home so I think that EV drivers will pay more when they go on occasional roadtrips if they had a super reliable widespread charging network and the companies can use the extra revenue to actually give that product to drivers. The companies need to be realistic about what they need to have customers pay.
@@meandmyEV the reason its hard to be profitable as a charging company is because it HAS to be cheaper than gas cause then why would anyone use an EV? if you're paying over 40 cents per kwh for most of the US its more expensive than gasoline and a regular gas car goes further per dollar at that point.
Places that see a lot of foot traffic for long periods like parking structures in cities, or malls can make it a good business model but most of the dollars you can charge is the cost of parking thats profit.
Having a supercharger site in the middle of nowhere doesnt make sense when compared to just expanding existing sites they have now.
@@meandmyEV - "doesn’t seem like there is a good business strategy for a company to be profitable selling EV charging". True, because there isn't a good business model for EV charging stations (like there was/is for gas stations), so it is dependent on government subsidies.
Won't.
But I really don't understand why everyone thinks this is the end of the world. Elon will just hire a new team and work continues. Soon nobody will remember this whole drama. The proof of this is that you already forgot a couple of similar dramas.
They already don’t work. NACS does, but they need to design a reliable charger.
Maybe Elon knows something that we don’t. But yes, the Tesla charging network is the reason I chose Tesla over other brands
I really don't understand this overly dramatic panicking. People act like Elon is shutting down the entire network. That's not even a remote possibility, absolutely nothing like that is happening.
What is happening is he's replacing the team that's responsible for the expansion of the network. And it will keep expanding, just with a different strategy.
@annacroixx I agree. Elon is amongst a very few good people who can and is willing to stand up against thugs, even if it means losing money.
“Give me money. Give me power. I don’t care”
@annacroixx
I'm not sure. He has a dark side too, and can act irrationally if someone pisses him off. But usually he just fires that one person, so there has to be something more here.
@@andrasbiro3007 Let me help you. This is like building all the bridges throughout the US but planting remote controlled explosives in each one you could detonate with the push of a button. Elon just pushed the button!
@@pthompson240
I don't even understand how that analogy is supposed to work.
Literally nothing has changed as far as the outside world is concerned. It's standard corporate restructuring, just a bit more drastic. Not the first for Tesla, and not unique to Tesla either.
How could they not know who their suppliers and purchasers are before firing the entire team? This firing is another Elon tantrum.
re: "This firing is another Elon tantrum..." YAAAAHTTTZEEE...!!! despite the display of "Ego-mania" staring us in the face, many don't want to deal with it.
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You don't know what you are talking about. But continue being mad at Elon for reasons nobody cares about.🤣
Obviously, the Accounting Dept will have that information, but, how many of them remain in their positions?
@@lasvegasbound6167 Apparently they didn't. It's covered in the video - they sent an email asking folks that were building SC sites to self-report.
If I'm a contractor mid work, I would pull my crew off the job.
100%. There are many active sites that will stop as well or greatly slow down.
Burn your bridge?
And hope you get paid?
Not if u wanted to be paid 30% upon completion
@@enoughofthis Q: Burn your bridge? A: yup, like so much Li-Ion battery in THERMAL RUNAWAY if that's what the situation calls for (which it does).
From my plea on Twitter, a number of condominiums reached out to me and are in a similar position of trying to get their L2 installations up and running. The biggest gap we're experiencing is getting access to the management dashboard that controls pricing for the L2 installations. I actually think the L2 impacts could be more impactful than the superchargers.
It isn't the company that acted irrationally, it was one individual with a God complex and zero consideration to his customers and partners.
Tesla doesn't get involved in L2 charging.
Phillip.
@@philliptemple9841 then why did Hilton contract with them to install L2 charging at 2,000 hotels in North America? They're 2nd most popular in the nation behind ChargePoint for L2 sites... They were absolutely involved in L2!
@@philliptemple9841I've used Tesla level 2 destination chargers. They're on the supercharger map, and not few in number. (In fact, every Tesla home charger is a level 2 charger as well.). I'd say they're rather involved.
God complex, I agree
I think some lawyers are going to get wealthy...especially where utilities have committed $$$ on upgrades
If u only understood how it actually works……..
@@sparkysho-ze7nm could you please explain?
Enlighten us! Burn a calorie!
@@sparkysho-ze7nm Nice explanation, could use more words....
This has nothing to do with utilities??? This is Tesla slowing down the superchargers. They are going to increase the number of chargers if the area needs them, and make sure all the chargers are working at 100%. There are plenty of superchargers in the US, they will bring some people back and make it lean and working very well!!!!!
This is not how you run a serious company. All the partner auto makers, The land deals, the power companies, etc. I can’t help but notice Tesla didn’t sell their supercharger division or spin it off, they just killed it. Businesses with a huge market advantage don’t usually just abandon a profit center. If Tesla can’t make charging long-term profitable, can others realistically do it? I want to believe they can, but realistically there aren’t a lot of signs pointing to it. And Australian charging company that operates in 42 countries, announce bankruptcy 12 hours after Tesla announce the supercharger cut.
The profit margins on supercharging are not great at all it’s buried in the financials but there. If it was a true cash cow musk and the board wouldn’t be throttling back on it
Just like gas stations really don’t make a lot of money from selling fuel… DC fast charging operators also do not. For one… EVs don’t have a large saturation as yet. This market is only 10+ years old.
The smart DC FC operators install their charges where people can get something to eat.. like big gas stations.
Apparently vehicle charging is a low-margin business. Outside of the gas station model of selling high-margin convenience items, it doesn't really make sense. Elon had stated that the supercharging business was running low margins at near cost in ideal circumstances. It was mainly operated as a necessary service to enable the viability of the vehicles. By running the supercharger business this way it was near impossible for other companies to compete. Tesla taking a pause and transferring partially completed sites to competitors seems like the competition's only opportunity to even having a chance at capturing market share, and it's still a terrible business to be in. Without government subsidies or some other profit center I can't imagine why a company would want to be in this business.
Check the stock market. The major ev charging corporations like ChargePoint, EvGo, and others are all down 65 to 90% in the last year...
Operating locations does expose Tesla to fear of accidents or rapes or stuff. It's a risk, when the profit is in selling cars. Tesla built the network a decade ago cuz no one else would, but now others will. Elon even knows the new stations will be Tesla compatible, so he literally can smile and not worry about charging anymore.. And I wonder if Elon has locked up supplies so he can now resell at hi price equipment. He must have reasons . And I'd bet he has lost patience with cities and Biden, so out of frustration alone is avoiding this hassle to focus on car making.. A tech company shouldn't be operating 1000 retail locations and seeking to add more it's almost silly to attempt but Tesla needed a network till now.
Why would any of Tesla’s “partners” in the on-going construction want to continue any of the current construction when there is such a high degree of uncertainty if they are actually going to get paid for their work or materials?
In the future contractors will demand money up front from Tesla or pass up the job.
If they have a contract to do work, they are generally obligated to do the work.
@@terjepetersen Usually there are ways out ofa contract if the other party doesn't meet their obligations. Like payment.
@@JeanPierreWhite - Tesla has not refused to pay.
@@terjepetersen Currently they have no way to pay and have asked partners to be "patient" while they figure that out. Contractors may not be willing to extend Tesla that courtesy. Its not an unwillingness to pay its an inability to pay.
This is mind boggling. Tesla is a tech company. They excel at data acquisition. You have to buy/lease property for your superchargers. Permitting, finance, contracting, etc. It's about record keeping. All the principle people were let go, that makes no sense.
Fun fact: Robotaxis are another Tesla myth. They have not filed for the necessary permits for the autonomous taxi in one city in this country yet. Not one. The permitting process takes years. So how exactly is this going to happen by August?
All tech company do mass layoff right now...not just Tesla
Tesla is a car manufacturer. Barely. Nothing more really.
@@soundmindbodydivine
That's a lot of bullshit.
FYI, many American cities don't require any permit, anyone can start a robotaxi service tomorrow.
And nobody said it will happen by August. The unveiling will be in August. That can be years ahead of the actual launch.
@@XanthopteryxBe careful. You're gonna break the hearts of people who thought they knew about business when all they really knew was money printer go brrrr.
7:10 their bankrupt. That's the only rationalization. I worked at a startup that was not paying vendors near the end and did stuff like what Tesla is doing. It puts Elons récent sale of Tesla stock and his asking for a payout into perspective
They have 30 BILLION cash on hand nitwit. And the largest market cap by far for an automaker
Bankrupt 😂😂😂
Tesla have billions in the bank. They didn't do this to stiff contractors. That would take forethought and planning.
@@JeanPierreWhite True. But man $500 B marketcap company operating like this is highly suspicious. It's kinda worrying
@@matten_zero 30 BILLION cash on hand. 500billion cap. That’s about as far from bankrupt as you can get
@@matten_zero Super worrying. Agreed.
I had a great experience at Fort Collins Kia! I just leased an EV6 from there for less than $100/month!
This is even worse than I thought. This was an insane decision.
As a Polestar owner, this whole situation saddens me. We were supposed to be one of the next in line for Supercharger access, likely next month. I had my A2Z charger adapter ready to go and everything. Now? Who knows. Definitely making me rethink the cross-country road trip I was planning this summer with my new SC access.
Ford already told their customers that the adapters will be delayed due to supply issues. I would be really surprised if Tesla will provide access to the SC network to Polestar now. P.S. I have a P2 but don’t roadtrip with it.
Rent a hybrid.
@@happyhippo1710 Yeah I realize there are other ways to drive across the country. I've done it many times. I was looking forward to doing it in my car.
Should have supported other vendors more I guess.
@@realteamme I get it!
This continues to get worse by the day the fact they fired all these people without knowing who the contact people were, and without knowing what their contract your obligations and contacts were indicates complete malfeasance in the execution of this layoff. I’ve been involved in layoffs from both sides and the key. Any layoff is understanding what the exact impact will be of a layoff, knowing who you can just do without and cannot do without and who’s gonna take over the work they’re doing and who their points of contact are. This is just bonkers.
It's not a layoff. Elon fired them because their boss said no to him. If she was insubordinate, fair enough she has to go, but firing her team is just childish.
I imagine it differently. As opposed to him getting emotional that someone didn't obey him, I imagine him being cold and calculating and showing that no entity is above being removed and reorganized if they are not functioning efficiently, damn the consequences.
A good company when it feels a investment will be unprofitable does act in big fashion and not care if it looks erratic. Sunk costs be damned, and PR be damned. With all now adopted the Tesla plug finally Elon can offload the job of building million charge sites to good old Biden, Elon held off till he won the standards war like a genius. I wonder if this will save him $100b, if it's this much and he has other use for the money then it's the right call.
@@MrFYoung
That sounds more like Elon. Doesn't mean it was the best decision, but likely he did have a reason at east.
@@MrFYoung So you think he's doctor Evil? Just as bad either way!
At this point Elon looks like a kid with a magnifying glass burning random ants in his driveway…
Actually. He always looked like that. Because that's pretty much what he's always been.
LOL 😂😂
Apparently you know nothing about him. Go read everything you can on him. Listen to ex employees
You’ll understand he doesn’t have time for BS. Thinks guy who was willing to sleep in the factory for years. Not take many vacations. Think he’s a soft guy??????
@@ssing7113 So you regard the most successful network of it's kind as bullshit huh? Interesting. I have "read" plenty about him. I know all about the sleeping in the factory crap. That just means he's an incompetent manager, or a prima donna, or maybe just a massive eccentric. Either way. You think that's commendable. I think it's stupid.
@@ssing7113 And why did he have to sleep in the factory when the Model "3' was released? Musk's vision is always the best.
You guys have had the best coverage on this by far
Is Tesla at risk of getting sued by all these companies for broken contracts? Which would add to their issues .
It's as if Elon fired the team in an emotional burst and now trying to pickup the broken pieces from that knee jerk reaction. This shows a clear lack of good judgement from Elon and will certainly diminish their reputation and take a long time to recover from this because years long talent are now gone and will not be easy to replace.
That is exactly what Electrek is reporting. Elmo had a hissy fit when Rebecca pushed back against how many to fire and he fired the whole team to make an example.
He isn't trying to pick up the pieces, some fool that still choses to work there is having to do that and is going to be the one in the future that he fires for not cleaning it up fast/well enough.
Or self-medication.
If only they could have planned some transition where they identified existing projects and communicated with partners about the plan going forward, like a mature organization. Oh wait...
When you think of the many companies, large and small, that would be involved in a new site, the ripple effects could be staggering.
A smaller company may have hired new workers, purchased equipment and materials. A halt could bankrupt them.
I agree that this might open the door for more organizations to take over and prevent a monopoly or near monopoly in the charging market. That said, there will be a lot of pain in the process.
Elon has shown time and time again that he's not afraid of maximum pain. I just hope he can turn this around quickly and minimize the damage for Tesla's partners who didn't sign up for this chaos.
Be patient getting paid is not something a well run company says to its suppliers. If I were a lender I would be concerned there is a cash flow problem.
Thanks again for keeping us updated.
its over....only down hill from here
Dont jump
I just bought a Tesla under the assumption, based on NACS being standardized, and other companies adopting it, and Tesla having developed quick-to-deploy modular dispenser islands, that I would have a way to charge it away from my home on an ever expanding charging network. I excluded buying any of the current CCS equipped cars as obsolete or soon to be. I feel deceived by Musk, to just arbitrarily stop completion of the charging network that made the Tesla specifically my choice. Looks like my next car will be a Benz or a Cadillac. Fool me once …
Hahaha! Yeah because going to another brand is going to improve your charging opportunities. 😂
Welcome to Tesla. Not surprised by it at all.
So you bought a car with the most extensive charging network in the world, are disappointed they will grow it more slowly, and now want to go to a company with no charging network. OK.
Phillip.
@@philliptemple9841the most extensive network in the world? Do you think that a “stop all construction” order is coming from a company that wants to keep it that way?
Yep, I'm guessing you aren't alone. Lot's of Tesla owners should be pissed at this bait and switch. I'm glad I got the Mach e but was looking forward to gaining access to the Tesla network. No biggie though personally as I only bought an EV to charge it from my excess solar power! And have ICE vehicles for longer trips.
The board needs to give Elon the flick, he is a liability now.
This’ll be a final straw for a lot of people. If Tesla sales are down 10% in May, will Musk get the boot?
@@freeheeler09 when Elon goes the share value will tank in the short term but Tesla need to pull the bandaid soon.
Perhaps once Musk gets paid, things may change. Until then, what incentive does he have?
And he’ll leave if they approve his $56 Billion bonus!😱💰🏴☠️💥
@@greggalexander5913 give him the boot before that happens lol
Why are you guys not asking what tesla did with all the government grants for Superchargers???
A very important point. Leaving lots of money on the table. Not a shrewd money saving measure at all.
The one area where Tesla (and Elon's multiverse) had the best reputation was not Twitter/X, not Tesla cars, not the Boring Company and not even Space X was the Tesla charging network and they (he?) managed to now screw that up too.Almost every other major player in the BEV market signed on and now this? I think it's time for a company's mascot to be let go and let the the within the company who have been the real innovators shine for a moment.
Compared with what is going on with Tesla, his tunneling company really is Boring 🤣
@@davidroddini1512 The tunnel is actually a major tell on Musk.
This is just like what happened at Twitter. I don’t see why anyone is surprised.
There is one significant difference…
I don’t see Tesla getting renamed to a single letter any time soon. 😉
@@davidroddini1512 rename Tesla to ExLax
I’m speculating that this has something to do with the doubling down of autonomy/Robo taxi. If autonomy is the dream, then I would assume they’re trying to take the human input out of the charging experience as well. What makes sense to me, again, fully speculating here, is that they are going to redesign the superchargers to connect and plug into the car without the need for human input. Any thoughts on this?
This has all the earmarks of an off-the-cuff, 15 second decision by Elmo. Someone asked him how they would know who to fire and his response was: "er, well, fire them all. Fire all of them."
That email is just an excuse for delaying payments, by trying to say that they don't know what's going on.
I can imagine Musk walking into a meeting and saying " I'm done with charging, I'm not putting any more money into this" this follows on from the latest government funding /handouts requirements basically said that current Tesla charging standards don't qualify for the money.
Feigning incompetence is an interesting strategy.
Hey Kyle, have you verified that you can still charge the Rivian on the supercharger network? I haven't seen anyone verify that yet. I also wonder if this will delay the shipment of new adapters. I'm waiting for mine for my R1S....
If you've fired everyone who knows how the system works, who are you going to find to stop Rivians from charging? Different story for OEMs who don't yet have access.
I charged with my R1T the past two days at SC sites. It was seamless. So sad to just get access and this happens.
Great. Tesla was just awarded NEVI money to build a new Supercharger site to help fill in the infamous 200 mile gap on I-40 between Oklahoma City and Van Buren, Arkansas, a real no-go area for Tesla drivers. Luckily there are a couple of ChargePoints and Francis charging sites along that road to take up the slack, although one of the Francis sites has been totally dead for over a year now due to being wiped out by a tornado.
I made that stretch last year on the way to the Grand Canyon. On the way back I decided to go through Tulsa instead. It definitely needs a station along that stretch. Oh well not anymore I suppose.
To be fair, I have to give some leniency for a site not function after being wiped out by … a tornado. 😂
We have driven that stretch twice before, and we will tomorrow (staying in Fort Smith tonight). What's the big deal about 200 miles in a Tesla.
@@JeanPierreWhiteI would go through North West Arkansas and drive to Tulsa via 412
@@andyfeimsternfei8408 It's not a big deal for some Tesla's. Kyle never drives it and he and many other UA-camrs specifically mention that stretch as a no-go for them when they do cross-country roadtrips. Despite being a reallyl good straight-shot route across the US, it is woefully underbuilt with Superchargers.
But in the grand scheme of things, that gap also means there is no non-Tesla support Superchargers and no Magic Dock-equipped sites along that stretch either. In fact, there are no Magic Dock-equipped sites all the way across Oklahoma and well on into both Texas and Arkansas. Add this to the fact there are no north-south highways in Oklahoma equipped with Superchargers at all other than I-35. It is 270 miles from I-40 to I-70 where the next Superchargers are. Try that in the wintertime.
Tesla needs lots more Supercharger sites in the middle of the country but evidently they don't have any plans to build any more than what currently exists and are scrapping the plans to build with NEVI money. Hopefully the states will redistribute that money quickly so that new infrastructure can be built soon.
They don’t even know who their contractors are. 🤦♂️
Real explanation: Elon got dumped by his latest girlfriend, and his main girlfriend found out about it. Unfortunately, the head of supercharging was the first person he saw the next morning.
That's the best theory I've heard to date.
Ketamine is a heck of a drug
Yep. One day you're a pedigree race horse put out to stud after a career of wins and the next day you've got a fist in your @$$.
I've already seen multiple major sites cancelled across the country.
In Philadelphia, a 64-stall, single charging station has also been canceled. Construction crews have been told to stand down and end all work on this site.
This is insanity.
As a veteran in construction industry, really sad to realize even the top notch tech company doesn’t have a good project management tool. Data management is such a bitch. And somehow no one out enough investment into it.
Crazy all these information are not centralized and managed with a single tool.
They definitely have this. Not sure how this relates to this topic. Both can be true
They do have that.
You didn't mention whether the email was USA-only or worldwide? If there are government contracts that will be broken, who is liable?
Dear reader, whomever you are, we have recently shot ourselves in the foot. Please be patient and carry the financial burden for us while we figure out what we did to ourselves. Oh and to you too. Oopsie!
Utah local here...at least the Vernal and Park City chargers are close, but its a crusher to not get the chargers in Kanab, Bryce and Scipio.
Wow! Begging suppliers to wait patiently for payment. This company may be closer to seeking bankruptcy protection than anyone expected.
Suppliers might start sending in invoices for backpay. This could cost Tesla a small fortune. People will take advantage of their confusion.
Lol you are kidding right?
Phillip.
My wife had been eyeing a Model 3. She gets the sporty car and I get work pickups. Elon’s been alienating her more and more lately. I showed her your video about this from yesterday and then asked if she was still getting a Tesla. She said, no and that she’s now considering a Mach E or Ioniq 5. It’ll be interesting to see how Musk’s latest self imposed PR disaster reduces Tesla sales
😂 have fun charging at broken EA sites with the ionic
@@doomsday9973 Honestly, at this point I would rather suffer twice the inconvenience than to give Elon Musk even 1 dollar. I could not imagine working for a prick like him. The employees who he fired in his tantrum are real people whose lives should not have to be disrupted. How many of those employees have challenges, like a family member with cancer, and now have to needlessly look for a new job? Any company that treats its employees so poorly should get its whole workforce unionized.
@@JasonEDragon layoffs suck. Google is laying off more now and replacing with lower wage overseas workers. Rivian just laid off hundreds more. All lives interrupted had families. Insurance etc. welcome to capitalism. It’s not a companies job to provide cradle to grave security. If layoffs are your issue you aren’t going to be spending much of your money anywhere
So your buying a Mach E, but your in the Tesla chat, shouldn’t you be in the Mach E chat room?
If I don’t like something, car, dishwasher, restaurant, I don’t spend time watching videos.about it.
If you want to have a real wake up go research Ford’s EV plans and the 10s of billions it’s losing because it got a late start.
😂😂😂
@@rporpora2 so much focus on teslas sales down in Q1 but hardly any talk of the BILLIONS lost by Ford, Merc etc
What I want to know is who is going to hire Rebecca Tinucci, and hopefully some of her team. I hope IONNA is interviewing her, even as you post this.
Q: What I want to know is who is going to hire Rebecca Tinucci(?) A: Oliver Zipse (CEO BMW AG).
@@phillyphil1513is he?
Second to Teslas, charging network has been their locations. If I ran a charging business I would buy as many of their sites as possible. Prime, high traffic locations.
That takes a lot of capital which is expensive and harder to get right now. The whole knee jerk halting of new factory deals and groundbreaking along with this on superchargers kind of seems like an emergency halt to capital spending. Maybe a concern that it could make them way over-extended instead of bumping up the profit margin by maxing out the current factories and superchargers.
But yes, it does add concerns for would be customers that are wary about range anxiety while expecting a continued expansion of the network.
@@damanfromtn But it's while spending several billions on FSD and AI. More a capital reallocation from a functioning business with the potential for 10x growth to some laboratory projects. (Yes, I used the FSD trial in April, stunning that anyone thought it was anywhere near ready.)
I hope Musk leaves ...seems like he's actively trying his hardest to tank the company and its reputation
One would hope that Tesla shareholders who were previously on the fence will take this as a good reason to vote "no" on Elon Musk's oversized pay package.
And we thought Boeing was screwed up…
ikr...? 😬
Well at least Tesla isn’t killing whistleblowers 😂
@@doomsday9973 not yet anyway, but wait for it... WAIT... FOR... IT...
haven't read it yet, but yes i DID see a headline regarding the demise of a 2nd "whistler".
@@doomsday9973 Fired Tesla employees know better than to get behind the wheel of a Tesla once they no longer work there. Tesla whistleblowers stay in the house under the bed covers with an extra layer of tinfoil.
Are you sure?
Honest question, is there any money to be made for private business to build and maintain charging stations? I mean with gas stations, the fuel companies have a captive consumer base. Every EV owner I talk with claims to charge overnight at home. The only time they use fast charging is on road trips and that is only if they don’t have a second ICE vehicle for longer trips. I guess I don’t see the business model or payback on investment for private industry.
I charge at Superchargers after 11 pm since they’re cheaper than me charging at home. I’m not the only one there. Actually, there are more and more people charging at that time lately. Not sure if it has something to do with the local utility raising prices recently. Also, some EV owners can’t charge at home since they live in an apartment complex.
@@johntazbaz1121 I never said there weren’t folks like you who use charging stations but I’m somewhat doubtful that it would be profitable for a private industry to build them. There are 8 superchargers 1 mile from my house. No one uses them from Mon. - Thursday. I do see a couple of people using them on Fridays,Saturdays and Sundays. I just don’t see how a company could make money on them. Also, if you live in an apartment, EV’s make little to no sense with current charging speeds and quantity of chargers.
The thing is, despite how crazy Tesla is sometimes, many of the other charging networks have been so bad in so many other ways. Is anyone going to step up and be the adult in the room?
Great reporting as always. Thanks.
This action is contradicts Tesla’s mission statement of “transition to sustainable energy.” Without more charging infrastructure, fewer people will buy EVs.
40% of US population lives in condos, HOAs, and apartments where charging is unlikely. They are forced to use SuC’s.
Almost looks like someone is deliberately trying to hamstring the entire EV industry out of spite 🤔
A company called Gravity is finding ways to place chargers, slow and fast, into such buildings, with good success.
@@bearcubdaycare True, but right now they are only in NYC. That’s not very helpful for the rest of the country.
Tesla was getting ready to install 42 super chargers a block away from my house in San jose,ca. They brought the chargers in crates. Then about 3 weeks ago everything stop . It's all fenced off now.
Lucky……. I was so excited to see the 30+ chargers but then everything stopped.
Extremely disappointed in Tesla. Ice cars already go farther than an EV. And still when you stop there are 4 gas stations on every corner. We all know that. Many of us are willing to make the sacrifice because we see the advantages evs have over ice and we can see a future with cleaner air around us. We need those chargers for long trips
You have those charger. Tesla already has the best network by far. Never had range anxiety in my Tesla.
I hope Tesla pays for all the contractors standing by being put on hold.
Fat chance
The company for whom I work has recently announced that it's closing down my division, phased out over the next five years.
At least they announced this to our partners first and explained that they will honour all commitments.
No-one has been fired yet. We've been given a timeline for when we will be made redundant and have been asked to organise things such as knowledge transfer to ensure that the company infrastructure will remain stable/viable for partners who need support in the future.
A lot of partners are understandably pretty pissed but this is saintly behaviour compared to how Tesla is going about things herre.
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Remember when it became embarrassing to drive a Hummer?
How can you call T a reputable company after all the failed promisses?how is your Beast CT doing? Got all what you ordered yet. FSD? Every other features?
Starting to wonder if Elon hasn’t lost his mind
Tesla might be better off without Elon... His decisions don't exactly instill confidence from their customers...
Or potential customers. I wonder how many people might have been considering Tesla and were scared away by this. 🤔
@@davidroddini1512 True...
No one is going to do business with Tesla moving forward. This is the beginning of the end for them. Their shareholders should be very angry! Time for a new CEO.
Lmao get real
@@doomsday9973this is real. No one should be running a business like this.
@@doomsday9973 He is. This kind of behavior has substantial repercussions. I'll defend Musk on some things, but this is just erratic in Tesla's relations with other companies, and in full public view.
He does this all the time. Nothing new.
If i'm another vehicle manufacturer with plans to switch from CCS to NACS, that's getting delayed if not cancelled.
I can't imagine what the end goal might be here, but this seems like a STUPID way of going about it and treating all those involved. HORRIBLE for the brand!!!
I believe that lots of folks trying to buy/lease an EV irrespective of brand preference will refuse to go on to use BEVs in North America. If they have home charging they might go with a PHEV, otherwise just with a HEV, the way Toyota pushes ideas on customers. However lots of folks will just go with an ICE vehicle, unfortunately.
@@nevco8774 I agree. I have owned a Tesla for the last 3.5 years and although it has served me well, I am ready to move on to something else. I charge mostly at home, but I don't want to spend $100k on my next car and not feel comfortable in driving it anywhere I want to go. I live in Canada and was already prepared for the public fast charging to be a hot mess for the next 3-5 years, but stunts like we see here have thrown a wrench into the steaming pile. I was considerinng all options, but this may have made the choice for my next vehicle a little easier. Unfortunate in deed!!
This is terrible news for the BEV industry as a whole. Tesla had a reliable and extensive charging network; they were #1 in that regard. Now the entire team behind it is gone. How long before it falls apart?
The only hope for the BEV industry is for companies like Kempower to snap up these employees and roll out their own products. In all likelihood the transfer of the industry to NACS is going to take much longer now.
@@davidroddini1512 NACS can quickly become just Tesla standard if all other manufacturers go back to CCS1.
@@nevco8774 That is a possibility; but I am thinking other charger makers might include it like some makers include Chademo. Given that NACS & CCS now use the same communication protocol, it is possible that eventually NACS will replace CCS if other charging vendors include it. But without Tesla to push it, there’s more inertia to overcome and it will take longer.
Each construction project (new supercharger site) requires Project Management and contract management. I can understand why Tesla put a hold on projects about to start, because a lack of a Project Manager makes construction almost impossible. The key issue is that projects ready to go likely have signed contracts with the contractor and the electric utility, so Tesla will see a lot of legal claims against them if they don't proceed. This will be a big mess to clean up.
I wonder what the cancellation clauses are for the various contractors. Lawyers will be making money. Again.
In this case, I think Tesla’s actions kind of necessitate that. 🤷♂️
And by Tesla, I mean Elon
Tesla was in-line to get such a small percentage of NEVI funds that there must be lots of financial resources left for other providers.
In the U.S., there are 2,234 Tesla Supercharger stations with 25,156 Tesla Supercharger ports. California has the most Tesla Supercharger stations (448) and the most Tesla Supercharger ports (6,913).
Tesla Prefabricated Supercharger Units (PSUs) are made at its plant in Buffalo, New York.
About 80% of all EV charging takes place at home, according to the Department of Energy.
Seems like this wave of firing was impulsive
Totally.
Either impulsive, or the actions of someone who is deliberately *trying* to jeopardize the company and the entire industry.
You think they are going to sell off the supercharger side of the business?
@@KyleD237 I would not be surprised if they just let the Supercharger side of the business decay into nothing.
@@KyleD237 definitely not… its still the best charging network in North America so I highly doubt they are even contemplating that.
I never clicked a video so fast before...
If the entire charging team is let go- does this mean that Electric Cars will Boom in the Future in Sales and Charging Stations.????
Lawsuits commence
Honestly, it's crazy to me that the Tesla supercharging department doesn't have SOP's and complete documentation on every job in their division. If you're managing a business well, or a portion of a business, and someone gets fired, quits, etc. it's imperative that a new employee can jump right in and do any the job effectively. It sounds like Tesla charging was already mess internally.
I don’t think any company has roles and duties documented in such detail that a new hire could learn what to do based solely on the docs. Experienced people on the team train a new hire. That’s how it always works. There isn’t a SC team anymore. So the new members of the new SC team will have to wing it, regardless of how well things are documented, and there will be a massive level of confusion and uncertainty in the foreseeable future.
As current driver of a PHEV for the past year, I am seriously considering purchasing a pure EV (NON TESLA). Most of the driving I have done this year has been done in pure EV mode and I am REALLY enjoying the EV drive experience. I thought my biggest hurdle on this decision was the massive depreciation of a new BEV, but now with this news, will this put a dent on the already scarce charging infrastructure (at least where I am)? I am now worried that with this news, will this add to the already high depreciation of all BEV's? When Tesla cut their new car prices it hurt all BEV resale values. If it seems that they are not expanding (or even supporting) their charging network, will this in turn hurt the entire charging industry? If a company that solely produces BEV's is not willing to put employees behind the infrastructure that makes their product work, what does that say to the rest of the EV industry? I wish the entire EV market was not so closely controlled by the whims of a crazy man!
I’d hold off on getting a pure EV until we see how much this affects the industry as a whole. I’m thinking PHEV and HEV is the way to go right now until things stabilize somewhat.
Was it really necessary to have over 5 minutes of preamble and setup to read an email?
15:33 idk man this is not really how a “reputable” org conducts business .. but I do see your point that they are reputable enough to pay HOWEVER will they pay for like you mentioned all of the permitting and planning and maybe pre-installation work like transformers installed like you said etc or will they just say “well we didn’t break ground so we’re not paying for your pre-development costs” … what a frikkin disaster dumpster fire + the charging network was both profitable AND a huge selling point .. again teslas do NOT have the best interiors many buyers choose them bc of the supercharging network .. why on earth would tesla or more likely Elon do this?!
I just finished telling people how good the Tesla network was last month after my 1802 mile road trip using a Tesla and their Fast DC Chargers.
This is HIGHLY unprofessional. Really almost unbelievable.
They don’t even know who the contractors are. 🤦♂️
Am I the only one who thinks Elon Musk is becoming the real-world version of Francisco d’Ancona from Atlas Shrugged?