@@romystumpy1197Were his brother and father born with bad essence? How is good/bad essence divvied up and doled out upon birth? This essence system intrigues me.
@@UncleDeadly1031 No that "essence" talk is bs. Everyone is the same white, empty page when we're born. Then comes family, friends, culture, events, absolutely everything and everyone around you leave a mark and they collectively make you who you are today and how you make decisions.
Hearing the dad tell his son to “Just lay still for daddy. Please.” And then pleading for their lives, breaks my heart into shreds. Joe was a good loving father.
"If you think I'm a snitch and I didn't do the right thing, then you're just as bad as a guy that committed that murder." Shawn Tundidor Well said sir, well said.
@@Fogysoks4709 People misunderstand the phrase Its not about NEVER going to the police The idea is if you are a criminal you shouldnt snitch on other criminals in the same game as you. It doesnt really apply to regular citizens Obviously if someone attacks you or something nobody would have an issue with you going to the police about it
Patrick you're 19 now, wherever you are I hope you can strife to live a life that makes your father proud. Be strong and take care of your mom, you can do it buddy!
it’s crazy how patrick ran through rooms to get scissors to save his mother. he is so so so brave and such a good child for listening to his father throughout the scariest situation.
His last words and thoughts were to protect his family- such a stark contrast to the criminal father who masterminded this whole pointless tragedy and then used his sons to try and get away it.
The fact that all that had to happen to the small five year-old Patrick is devastating. I cried, especially overt the fact that joes last words to his son was "lay still and pretend your sleeping, do it for daddy please." this shows that not only did joe sacrifice his life for his son, but he saved him too. RIP joe. respect.
Patrick seems like such a sweetheart, some little kids seem like a pain in the ass but Patrick was clearly raised to be a loving happy little guy, it's unfortunate I bet this ruined him for life. I only hope he can still be as happy as he seemed in a lot of the clips shown of him. Joe Morrissey is the kind of man I aspire to be, his noble actions had me in tears.
People should be very careful who they even talk to ,let alone having any kind of business with ;as renting, letting them in for any job .......etc Never give a chance to creatures that look like bad news .
@@PoIiteCatNo one should have to deal with the untimely deaths of their own parents. I'll never be able to live through it if my mother is taken from me. You are strong, stay strong.
This case made me so emotional. Patrick is such an intelligent kid, he was only 5 years old and still saved his mom and was able to tell the story to the authorities.
Shawn was the real HERO here, he was incredibly brave . Patrick is also incredibly brave , so young yet he understood exactly what he needed to do. I hope Patrick has received the help he surely needed after witnessing what he did.
My friend's parents were killed in front of him in his home when he was 4 or 5. They were dead immediately and nothing could have been done. He told me that over time the mental image of seeing the shots happen faded quite a bit but that turning his mother's head and seeing that half of it was gone never faded at all. Our brains have the ability to block out such traumatic things almost completely. It's unfortunate that we can't effectively make that occur to make life better for people who've seen things like that.
Actually, I used to suffer and I saw a Christian video that was a prayer to ask Jesus to take away evil memory recall. You don’t forget that you saw what you saw but you don’t get tormented. God is good. Whenever there doesn’t seem to be a way remember Jesus said, “I am the way.”
It’s also Christmas right now. So worth it to read Matthew, Luke, or my favorite, John. Especially John 1 & 3 “in the beginning was the Word… The word was made flesh…. Though the world was made through him, so many in the world did not recognize him, the arm of the Lord.” See also Isaiah 53. That would take 10 minutes.Even Christian miss out on all the good God has for us. I’ve shifted my realization to the fact that we still live in Bible days, and miracles start to happen, when you pray in faith that they do happen, when you pray the will of God, by praying scripture over situation, we need to know scripture first.
@mandykay8629 brothers do not share the same brain chemistry, same exact trauma/experiences and also do not have the same threshold for PTSD and other related secondary mental illnesses. I get what you're saying and I'm not making excuses for anyone but it's really just not that simple. Nothing is that simple. Lots of gray areas here, no black and white. Also, the murderer son was also the oldest. He probably went through more & worse abuse. He had no older brother to protect and/or guide him. So we really just can't compare people with similar life experiences and say "well, so and so didn't kill anyone so this other person is just evil, and that's it". There's just so much more to humans and our brains. When our brains are damaged, just like a liver, they won't work right at all. They will fail partially/completely and cause serious symptoms. Everyone's symptoms vary and for a lot of reasons. It would, however, be so easy for Shawn to excuse bad behavior because of a bad childhood. So I absolutely commend him for his actions. It's truly inspirational and amazing. I don't want to discount that as if he had some great advantage over his brother. His struggle I'm sure, was great.
@mandykay8629 psychologists generally don't use that term. Philosophers do. You misunderstand what is meant by free will. "free will" as a concept is nothing to do with if a concious person understands what they are doing and understand right from wrong in the context of a court case. "free will" is a metaphysical concept and the opposite of determinism. In determinism all of the actions and events in the universe are already determined by an external entity. That includes all of consciousness, that doesn't mean people aren't making decisions that they can understand within the world. The judge is also part of that world. The juries decisions are also part of that world. It make no difference to outcome of a trial because everything would exist either as free will or as determinism regardless. What I think you are talking about is either nature vs. nature or whether a person can be fully culpable due to their state of mind during a crime. The free will vs. determinism that would only matter in the context of higher being external to the the physical world. If that higher being has already determined anything could they really be Judged (capital J), external to the physical world? The issue is religion uses both determinism and free will when it suits. It uses determinism, to underpin creation and the inability to defy gods plan but free will to explain the failures. In a court case they would have to plead not guilt due insanity for this to come up which is a legal concept different from medical insanity. Of the counsel / judge would have to enter a pea on their behalf becuase they not fit to stand trial, or the judge out have declare them not fit to stand trial. Typical it is forensic psychiatrist who woudl testify. But a psychologist may also. There is also diminished responsibility but hat is a guilty plea but with mitigation. Background may come up in sentencing, but is rare for it to come up in the trial itself unless it is directly related to the facts. It is not nature vs nurture, it nature __and__ nurture and everything is ultimately nature anyway. We can be a product of a neurology and still have a concious mind that acts. Mens rea mean guilty mind. It is the mind that tried not the neural network.
I love what he said at the end: “If you think I’m a snitch and I didn’t do the right thing, then you’re just as bad as a guy that committed that murder, so I don’t care!” 21:05 - 21:11
Not a snitch, a hero. Truly. I've watched so many of these but this one touched me like no other. The strength and courage of Patrick and Shawn are amazing and inspiring.
@@TheKnoxviciousWell that would only make sense if the majority was as high as the people who have kids, which it's not. Alot of people adopt and treat kids like shit, too. It's not a sacred category
“If you think I’m a snitch and did the wrong thing, then you’re as bad as the e people who commit the murder”. Wow, I salute you my friend! Amazing words
Why did the murderer commit the murder? Is it a disease? Can't it be identified and cured? Loss of life is one of the greatest losses especially title family. What do these ppl get out of it?
The older brother exposing his father was a powerful thing. Their father was evil and manipulative. His actions stopped a vicious cycle, saved a life and hopefully bought that poor mom some justice. I'm praying for the young son's wellbeing and that he gets the long term care he will need for his ptsd.
@@thedesensitizedsympathizer5307 Wdym how is he evil? He murdered someone. Also his motive was that he didn’t want to be evicted and he couldn’t be from a dead man
Shawn if you ever see this-you are amazing. You did a good thing. That family got justice BECAUSE of you. You saved who knows how many people by doing what you did. You broke the cycle. You did it. Patrick. You are a hero. You are beautiful and strong. You saved your mother and you got justice for your dad. Be proud of your amazing strength! I’m sorry for your loss.
WOW , I literally just commented the exact same thing without even reading your comment , then I added Mew's addition also without reading his comment , that's some freaky friday stuff *_*
Shawn Tundidor, you are a stand up guy. Seriously, good on you for doing what was right. You aren't like your father or brother, so don't let anyone tell you otherwise. You also aren't a snitch. This took a lot of courage and strength to come forward with that information about your dad and brother. A snitch would have been a coward, and you sir, are no coward.
On top of this, who knows what would have happened if he HADN’T testified. The child and his mother could potentially be in grave danger of the father and older brother coming back to try and k!ll them again.
Is it a snitch to report the crimes of a bully? If a sister tattles on a mean brother and he is punished, it is his own fault. Hold the wicked accountable and reward the good people.
@@AffectionateCorgi-sz7qe What if your brother was perfectly okay with throwing you under the bus and letting you take the blame for the murders? Because Randy Sr. clearly didn't care about his sons, so why should the sons be loyal and seek to protect him for his crimes? You are foolish and equally as bad if you turn a blind eye to evil deeds just because family are the ones commiting them, you're really are out here claiming 1000 lives aren't important enough 🤦♀️
Shawn has a lot of courage to turn in his father who is such a monster and his brother. He did the right thing and in a way is a hero despite his upbringing. I feel the need to pray for him 🙏
I don't think he turned his brother. His brother was a drug addict and he knew that if he was involved it was his fathers doing. And he was right. Guy got his son high on crack and then told him go rob someone and get more.
2 types of Father here. A biological father who sacrificed his 2 son to save his own life vs An Adoptive Father who sacrifice his life for his son. Father's love is not always about blood. 😢
My dad is the latter. He hasn’t adopted my brother legally because he respected his decision since he met him but no doubt he would put his life on the line for him. It’s been nearly 30 years since he first met him, he already wanted a woman with a child because at the age he was at he never thought or planned he would have bio children. Bio parents doesn’t equal loving parents, my brothers dad wouldn’t give a single drop of blood to my brother, my dad will give all the blood he has. Step and adoptive parents can be 200% more caring than bio parents depending on their morals
As sad as this story is, it’s almost poetic in a way. Two fathers, polar opposites in regards to their families. One father, using his last words to protect and comfort his son in such a terrifying situation. While you have the other “father” who would throw his own children under the bus for a Klondike bar.
I think a significant part of this poetry also lies in the heroic father being adoptive, while the 'bound-by-blood' biological father was one that you had to put between quotation marks, because he did not live up to what constitutes a true father, while conversely it is many people's belief that adoptive parents can't live up to the role and connection that a biological parent has in a child's life. So this shows how that narrative in reality can be completely opposite with these two examples connected in one case. The "real" father, wasn't a real father - and vice versa.
The baggage that a situation like this would make for a child is terrible. I can't imagine how long it would take for you to process all that happened.
Poor Patrick, a little kid should never see that, especially if its who they love. He was so pure and innocent, he didnt understand that his father was actually DEAD, gone. I give my respect to Shawn, he didnt keep silent and brought justice. Very proud of them for their bravery.
There are 3 heroes in this story. One a stand up man who stood against his own family to do the right thing. One a father, a damn good father, who fought and sacrificed himself to try and save his family. One, a young man raised by that example of a good father who loved and listened to his parents, saving his and his mothers lives. What an incredible story. If anybody ever asks me why I believe in the death penalty, this story is another great example of human filth that don't deserve to occupy the same reality as the 3 heroes who stopped them.
Hats off to the investigator asking that small, innocent child questions. He was really calm, patient and got down on Patrick's level without making it too scary. Poor lil guy, hope he's been taken care of.
This is so sad! 😢 i hope the mom and the sweet little boy are doing okay. The man who exposed his father and brother is an amazing person, what he did was so honorable.
@@samle9131He has a message for you that was in fact put in this video: "If you think I'm a bad person because I'm a snitch, you're no better than the person who committed murder."
A tale of two fathers - one who raised his family up, and one who was content to throw his own child under the bus, manipulating him into committing crimes that put him in prison. A tale of two sons - one who ran to get scissors to cut his mother free, and a son who saw his father for the evil man he was and decided to do something incredibly brave to put his father in prison for the rest of his life. It’s a mad world.
You just stated exactly what happened. He abused his son to get him to do that crime. Then he blamed both sons for what he did. The son he utilized for the crime has mental health conditions since he was little, still his father set him up to be a criminal and going to prison for 40 years
It reminds me of that case Mr Ballen covered where a dad murdered a medical student and his gf on his yacht and threatened his own teenage sons who witnessed the whole thing into silence
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Snitch?? Absolutely NOT! HERO! Just like the little boy who saved his mum. Love to you both. It took a lot of courage and emotional strength to do what you both have done. ❤
This whole story just goes to show how much a father can influence the trajectory of your whole life, either to become someone elses hero, or someone elses villain. Two amazing and brave young men.
Correct, 3 different sons 3 different fathers. 1 absent biological father 1 great adoptive parent 1 father that created a crackhead that robbed and committed crimes and the other one learned from his brother and father and did the right thing and turn them in. He knew he has lost them when they did what they did. Morals are very powerful and lacking them reciprocates that.
I'm an old man, and I've been on this planet for a long time. But there are still times when I'm shocked by the evil acts people are capable of. This is one of those times.
I’m 48 and there are times I’m shocked by the depths of depravity and the evil people go to, but I’m also given hope when people do extraordinary acts of bravery, love and compassion in the face of evil. This story has elements of both. On the one hand there’s a father who terrorised his family and used his son’s addiction to do a heinous crime, on the other hand there’s a father who sacrificed himself to save his son, a little boy who acted bravely, and another son who went against his family to do the right thing. I’ve followed true crime for many years and there are many stories I consider worse, but when looking at all the elements it’s a very shocking and senseless crime. A life taken for something as trivial as an eviction.
@@jayxee4606not the person you asked but i can recommend: dreading, explore with us, Kendall Rae, and JCS. I feel other true crime UA-camrs can be a bit disrespectful to the victims but these few seem to report crimes with integrity and respect.
Such a heartbreaking crime :(. As someone who lives with PTSD, I can only imagine how it felt for a five year old. I hope he knows that he truly is a hero for saving his Mom. Glad justice was served for the murderers!
Yeah he seemed like a pretty broken dude, he pleaded guilty and didn’t try to justify what he did. Sad really and I’m glad his sentence wasn’t too harsh.
@@The_JackYT Seems likely the father actually carried out the murder, since they took him back inside the house to do it. The son was certainly complicit, controlled by drugs. He looked better after prison than before when on remand.
@@barbaramcmillan3835 I highly doubt that considering the maximum sentence for conspiracy to murder is 25 years and he got 40, and what you’re saying is a theory but not confirmed. Though it is not improbable for him to have killed him in a drug induced frenzy.
Damn.. he’s literally 1 year younger than me. It’s crazy because traumatic experiences like that can make someone still feel the shockwaves of it for the rest of their life. If he’s going to college I really hope he has a good support system because PTSD is far from easy to deal with. Seemed like a brave boy at 5 I’m sure his inherent character hasn’t changed
@@daffyducksmashedinablockof8634 I'm just wondering if there is a way to cure PTSD yet? Because I couldn't even imagine the pain and terror Patrick would've been facing over years... it is just so traumatic:/
no. no 'cure' for PTSD. just 🎶" time and love"🎶 PTSD is basically a severe anxiety disorder. ie: no matter how brave you were at the time, the rest of your life you'll battle fear... I have it. from age 9. I've lived my whole life fighting through fear. even in my sleep. but when something truly frightening happens... you want me there. I don't let ANYone fck with me - since I was 9. nor with ANY vulnerable people. (or animals!)
@@rainbowsweetie6298Mental disorders etc are much harder to "cure" than physicals ones if even possible. The best they can do for him is help him move on and help the trauma be less severe. If there was a cure there wouldn't be hundreds of thousands of war vets, s*xual victims, ab*se victims still struggling with it for decades.
both Shawn and Patrick are true heroes and I hope they both take pride in themselves and their brave actions. idk why but this case made me very emotional. I watch a lot of true crime and not much touches me but this really did.
Shawn and patrick are both heroes in this case. Patrick saved his mom, and shawn displayed the truth for justice. I dont even know them but im so damn proud of both of them for being so brave
What a stand up guy. Turning in your dad and brother has to be hard but was the right thing. Even being raised by a monster this young man decided to be a good person. We all have choices in life.
I really hope that Patrick is mentally okay. It’s been 13 years since then and he should be 18 years old. I can’t imagine how rough it has been for him, especially puberty, having to deal with the idiosyncrasy of trauma after and the usual growing pains of adolescenthood
21:04 I wanna time stamp this statement very quick, no matter what happens. Always stand for what's right and what is true. This quote will forever remain with me. Much love to Patrick, his mother and his sisters family. May God bless their souls and keep them safe. 🙏
The thing that makes me so mad about cases like this is the motive is always such bullshit. Whenever there's someone who's actually being fucked over, they either fight it the legal way or are forced to just roll over and take it. But there's always a murderer out there who can turn an insignificant minor issue into a reason for somebody to die
I just can't help but feel the weight of the person who is clearly missing from the last photo. May Patrick and his mom continue to find peace in life and in each other.
it's so sad to see patrick say things like, "my dad died" and "he put a gun to my mom and dad's head" so innocently and easily, he doesn't understand the depth of what happened. randy gave so much tramua to patrick at such a young age, he is an absolute monster.
The only good news is that he will likely not remember many of the finer details of this event since he's so young. But it will likely haunt him forever. It might be even worse now since, while this is good to have up, he can look it up at any time.
@@xxhowisuxx I truly hope he doesnt remember the finer details, me and my mom had our home robbed when I was 5 years as well, put towels on our heads and pointed guns to us, tied me with a fucking gamecube power cable, mom thought they were going to kills us, thankfully they only robed the place and left a while after, but I still remember every single detail
@@xxhowisuxxabsolutely untrue. I experienced a series pretty traumatic incident at 5 years old and I remember all of it. 5 year olds like anyone might forget mundane simple regular stuff but they won't forget something like this. Don't delude yourself thinking a 5 year old or even a 2 year old forgets any of these things
Sometimes with healing the details can begin to fade. I remember more than enough of my worst traumas, but it takes longer and longer to dredge them up and they're murky for long enough that I can think about other things without ever needing to find out how much I remember. Just a few years ago, it would rush back like a landslide over the tiniest reminders. I'd hate to have forgotten before getting a chance to understand why I reacted fearfully to the things I did, though. I hope this family is finding peace.
Shawn is a wonderful man. His upbringing could have easily led him to be involved, but he made a conscious decision to be a better man than the example he grew up with.
A story of a man fighting in his final moments to try and keep his family safe, and another man who throws his own flesh and blood under the bus to save his own skin. the Duality of man.
Yeah. What I don't understand is why they didn't say what happened to the father. He was taken downstairs and the boy didn't hear him anymore. How did he die? Did I miss something?
@@annwithaplan9766 They mentioned "murder weapon" before. That paired with the fact that there was no gun shot implies it was probably from a knife or blunt force object. (Although a gun counts as a murder weapon, typically I would imagine criminals would just call a gun what it is).
He had already been threatened with death if he told anyone about a previous murder his father carried out, he knew his life was not safe as long as his father was free.
Idk how this channel afords all the writing, filming, interviewing, and general production quality they do with less than a million subscribers, but I'm glad they can. Great work.
Hearing him talk about all of this without fully understanding breaks my heart. I have a 5 year old brother right now and I cannot imagine hearing him speak this way. Things like this make my chest hurt.
Sean is an angel. A warrior! So much more than a hero. It takes more strength than anyone to stand up against your own family, for what is right!!! I applaud Sean T. No words can describe the actions of 5 yr old Patrick to save his mom. Hero, warrior and angel just could never cover it❤.
Thanks to Shawn for helping the investigation. He's amazing! He did the right thing. Others would have tried to protect their family members who have committed murder. Those types of people who protect murderers are also guilty of the crime. Patrick is an amazing little boy as well. Sorry for your loss Patrick. 😢
Shawn is my friend I recently met. He is a good guy. He still does love his brother but his dad is dead to him. Im so proud of him. He actually told me about this. I was shocked but very proud of him.
"If you think I'm a snitch and I didn't do the right thing? Then youre just as bad as the guy committing that murder. So I don't care." This hit hard. You are an honorable man Shawn!
So sad. Poor Patrick didn't understand what it means to be dead. Him thinking that dad will be back broke my heart. Am glad he listened to his dad and laid low. He is a very smart boy at his young age. Joe was such a good father unlike Randy, He is a bad father. He was willing to accuse his sons in order to save himself Sean did the right thing. Thank you Sean. May Allah bless you for that good act. RIP Joe.
Shawn Tundidor is a brave man for telling the truth. His gesture saved a lot of time and grief to the Mother and surviving son. The little boy is a hero, i hope he got honored by the city.
Been watching crime documentaries and this is the first one that made me cry. Damn, Patrick was so brave - braver than I am. RIP to his loving father. Am glad that Shawn helped and that justice was fully served.
Sean is an amazing man and he is the breaker of generational curses and will bring honor to his family's name with what he did. He has an amazing moral compass. His father is a terrible person and deserved everything he got. Patrick is a hero. Poor baby to have to witness that. I'm glad your family got justice. I wish none of it ever happened to you. You had an amazing husband and father who was a hero to the end.
Shawn did not bring honor to our family, he is my cousin, my mother Patricia Tundidor is Randy Sr sister..... Shawn was the actual killer and Randy Jr was protecting his baby brother by testifying against my uncle....you all are fucking gullible to believe him
Wow… so many heroes in this story. What a tearjerker. Patrick saved his mother, Joe saved Patrick, and the last man did such an incredible and honorable, yet difficult thing to do too, I’m sure. (I’m trying not to reveal too much for anyone who hasn’t finished watching this yet.) I couldn’t imagine what they went through. Rest In Peace Joe Morrissey.
The fact that Randy used his son's addiction against him is one of the most disgusting things I've ever heard. I feel like 40 years was too much for someone who was manipulated and drugged.
He still took that guys life, your moral compass is skewed if you believe 40 years is too long for somebody that entered a family’s home in the middle of the night and committed a murder given drugs or manipulated or not the time should reflect the severity of the crime
I agree that perhaps the son who was abused by the father and then had his drug addiction used against him might possibly be able to be rehabilitated. The father deserves to have a life if not a death behind bars. But the eldest brother Shawn is absolutely a testament to the human spirit that you can be surrounded by abuse, cruelty And immorality and still be a good person and do the right thing, he's the only light in the darkness of that family.
Id say it depends on whether or not the son knew his father was planning on killing the guy, because to me it seemed like the son was under the impression that it was just going to be a robbery or break and enter. If he didnt know his dad’s intentions then i agree 40 years seems harsh, but if thats not the case then even with manipulation if you can be manipulated to murder its justified
We see ppl get 5-25 for killing families in drunk driving cases, it's extremely similar. He was high off $100 worth of crack, which is quite a bit and THEN was told it was just a simple robbery which is damn near a victimless crime (to a creek head) on top of all that is was his dad, so he was manipulated on so many levels, i feel 20 and rehab would've been fair while giving the father life without parole, no death sentence, let them dreams torment him for the rest of his living days @wrathofthegods4739
@@wrathofthegods4739No the father killed him and got life. Junior got 40yrs for being involved. Which I also think it’s too much for someone who was coerced and drugged.
Thank you, Shawn. What you did took courage. I believe your brother would not have participated in your fathers plan if he had not been manipulated by the drugs your father gave him. I know he will be clean now, with being in prison, and I can only imagine his remorse. Thank you for being you, you saved a family and your brother.
I thought the same thing that when he was on the stand and had clean time that he is probably living with what he did and regrets it not just because his is in jail, as he should. But a father getting his addict child all cracked out to commit a crime like this is disgusting.
Agreed, hopefully they give him the teraphy for addiction and psicologist; seems like he was used and abused by his father to commit all kind of crimes. I hope he gets less time in prison.
@azukita9157 He received 40 yrs in prison. His father received the death penalty. I would imagine part of the sons treatment to become clean in prison would have been support by a psychologist. I imagine all in this case will need therapy. So sad. 😢
Yeah it sounds like after getting clean, he realized what a piece of shit his dad is. I wouldn't be surprised if his dad helped him get addicted in the first place.
I think that’s just the case with humans in general. We may have evolved in terms of societal improvements, technology, language/arts, etc, but we’re still our base selves when it comes down to instincts. Some of us are wired to do right by our families and communities, some of us are wired to prey on and take advantage of others. When the former comes together to deal with the latter, society as a whole improves. When the latter run rampant over the former, society begins to break down and people point fingers to assign blame as opposed to determining what they can do to help improve the community’s outlook. If there were more people like this little boy I’d have more faith that the good will overcome the bad but I just don’t know any more.
Mad respect for Patrick with only 5 years, rescued his mom and last but not least, Shawn Tundidor for standing up for this family by turning in his dad.
With the kid being in the title, I would’ve thought he would have a more pivotal role in this case ( well, as a 5-year old could) but Shawn coming forward and confessing the truth about his family deserves mention too
Shawn is an amazing man. He did what was right OVER protecting his dad and brother for the terrible things they did. That takes a lot of courage and integrity. Happy for him he is NOT like his dad and proved it by being honest and wanting to help Patrick and his mom. That will help them to start to heal over the loss of their dad and husband. Such a sad story!
Shawn was so brave, he did the right thing. I feel bad for Randy Jr. too, he was an addict and his own father preyed on that vulnerability and convinced him to do something he might otherwise not have done. It's absolutely tragic all across the board, so many victims due to one selfish man.
Drug don't necessarily make you a bad person. That being said, it sure as hell can bring to light the darker inner thoughts a lot of people harbor and you'd never otherwise know. Just like liquor.
@@AlaborJinta yes, I do. Good people struggle with addiction every day, and like any sickness they need medical attention and more than anything a good support system. Unfortunately, all Randy Jr. had for guidance is a father with no intention of actually helping him, but used his son's addiction to get what he wanted. Yes, I feel bad for him. I'd wager if his father didn't hand him those drugs, he never would have killed or assisted in murder. He's a victim too, and he has to live with what his father lead him to do. He needed his dad to help him, and instead he was betrayed in a terrible way. He made his son an accomplice to murder. That's a heinous thing to do to your child, much less the family they attacked.
He was weak. I've smoked crack. Not that much, but over the years, it has been about a hundred times. It makes you want more as soon as the high wears off. Its highly addictive. It becomes a fight against your own brain chemistry, which I excell at. I have tremendous will power. I even quit tobacco cold-turkey. The guys I smoked crack with CANNOT control themselves. They are weak. They will give away all their money, their car, the shirt off their back to get another hit. It disgusts me. I only smoke crack alone now because of people like this. I spend forty bucks on it and then I quit. It's gone. Most people start looking in the floor and end up trying to get more, spending five hundred dollars in a night once. That's what it does to you. You have to fight it. It's really hard for me to fight my own brain when there's also a crack addict begging you to get more. I have to fight myself AND them. It ends up with me kicking them out of my apartment and then I slam a bunch of beer, brush my teeth and take a shower. The feeling of immediate addiction fades after a few hours. Then it becomes more of a craving than addiction. Then I see my friend two days later, dirty and out of his mind because he hasn't slept. He's still smoking it and already given up everything he owns. Then he wants MORE.
What happened to this man, his wife and their little boy is beyond heartbreaking. The son that spoke up about what his father did is a hero as well. How hard that would be but I think there were two hero’s here. I hope that the little boy can live a good life and not be fraught with PTSD for what he had to witness.
Shawn you are not a snitch,you are a man with heart and feelings,you are a human,the way god sends Patrick as hero to his mom , i found you a hero for the whole community ,you are a great man with a good heart, salut brother for the hard working in the case . congratulations brother we all at the United States of America welcome you as a friend and great neighbor in hour society. Patrick and Shawn the heroes for this heart breaking story.
This case broke my heart. You have the opposite sides of the spectrum: the father that spent his last moments protecting his family, and the one that has no issues seeing his sons going to jail. Poor Patrick.
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Shawn is proof you can be good even when youre surrounded by bad. He has heart.
I hope he is doing ok
Yes because he was born with good essence
@@romystumpy1197Were his brother and father born with bad essence? How is good/bad essence divvied up and doled out upon birth? This essence system intrigues me.
@@UncleDeadly1031social influence and personal choices have a lot to do with it
@@UncleDeadly1031 No that "essence" talk is bs. Everyone is the same white, empty page when we're born. Then comes family, friends, culture, events, absolutely everything and everyone around you leave a mark and they collectively make you who you are today and how you make decisions.
Hearing the dad tell his son to “Just lay still for daddy. Please.” And then pleading for their lives, breaks my heart into shreds. Joe was a good loving father.
Yea totally devastating.
@@galacticwarlock2271seriously you really are heartless
@@galacticwarlock2271is that sarcastic or honest, you never know on the internet
Yeah, totally devastating.
I cry at that part, i can't hold it. Father who protectd his baby boy 🥺🥺🥺🥺
"If you think I'm a snitch and I didn't do the right thing, then you're just as bad as a guy that committed that murder."
Shawn Tundidor
Well said sir, well said.
The whole sub culture around snitches get stitches....
So like you don't report bad people like child molesters or? No one or only?
@@Fogysoks4709 most people who say "Snitches get stitches" are normally not good people. I mean they are literally threatening you saying that.
@@Fogysoks4709 People misunderstand the phrase
Its not about NEVER going to the police
The idea is if you are a criminal you shouldnt snitch on other criminals in the same game as you. It doesnt really apply to regular citizens
Obviously if someone attacks you or something nobody would have an issue with you going to the police about it
That don’t snitch shi only come into play when you apart of it most likely some gang shi tho not no sexual abuse
The kids perspective makes this 100% sadder
Patrick you're 19 now, wherever you are I hope you can strife to live a life that makes your father proud. Be strong and take care of your mom, you can do it buddy!
Damn this hit hard
Yes indeed!!! 😔
He already made his father proud by saving his mom
it’s crazy how patrick ran through rooms to get scissors to save his mother. he is so so so brave and such a good child for listening to his father throughout the scariest situation.
This is nuts. I've covered some pretty crazy cases too
Very sad for all of them. Patrick would be close to 17 now. I hope he has had therapy, as well as his mother.
Amazing resilient heroic child! 👵🏽✌🏾🤗
@@sarahdooley6164playing devils advocate depending if he just turned 5 or going to turn 6 that year then he defiantly would either be 17mor 18 now
@@mercedesvelasquez8781😂are you on crack race card or something Toyota?
“Please do it for daddy.” That made me tear up. I can only imagine what the father was thinking about over the last minutes of his life.
Sadly, at that point, you can only really hope and pray that your killer won't kill your son too.
Sad to think the father thinks of a world where he could see his son grow up
Me 2
His last words and thoughts were to protect his family- such a stark contrast to the criminal father who masterminded this whole pointless tragedy and then used his sons to try and get away it.
5:39 already cried once.
The fact that all that had to happen to the small five year-old Patrick is devastating. I cried, especially overt the fact that joes last words to his son was "lay still and pretend your sleeping, do it for daddy please." this shows that not only did joe sacrifice his life for his son, but he saved him too. RIP joe. respect.
I'm sobbing this is so sad.
Patrick seems like such a sweetheart, some little kids seem like a pain in the ass but Patrick was clearly raised to be a loving happy little guy, it's unfortunate I bet this ruined him for life. I only hope he can still be as happy as he seemed in a lot of the clips shown of him. Joe Morrissey is the kind of man I aspire to be, his noble actions had me in tears.
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People should be very careful who they even talk to ,let alone having any kind of business with ;as renting, letting them in for any job .......etc
Never give a chance to creatures that look like bad news .
I cried too.
My heart shattered when he said “My daddy is dead” without understanding what it means. That poor kid, I hope he’s doing much better now.
@@PoIiteCatNo one should have to deal with the untimely deaths of their own parents. I'll never be able to live through it if my mother is taken from me.
You are strong, stay strong.
At 7 I knew dead meant never coming back. It was my mom.
@@mjyanimations1062 alcohol took my dad when I was 5 But he tried to heal himself for us.
@@tadejaivanic680 All the best for you. You've proven yourself strong.
In what way did he not understand? It's not complex. When you're dead, you're never waking up again. That's simply it.
This case made me so emotional. Patrick is such an intelligent kid, he was only 5 years old and still saved his mom and was able to tell the story to the authorities.
Did the mom live?
Ok nevermind she did
@@CabbageJuice2677yes the dad died
What did you think he’s asian
And the kid is now 18
Shawn was the real HERO here, he was incredibly brave . Patrick is also incredibly brave , so young yet he understood exactly what he needed to do. I hope Patrick has received the help he surely needed after witnessing what he did.
I agree katiana also love ur name
My friend's parents were killed in front of him in his home when he was 4 or 5. They were dead immediately and nothing could have been done. He told me that over time the mental image of seeing the shots happen faded quite a bit but that turning his mother's head and seeing that half of it was gone never faded at all. Our brains have the ability to block out such traumatic things almost completely. It's unfortunate that we can't effectively make that occur to make life better for people who've seen things like that.
Actually, I used to suffer and I saw a Christian video that was a prayer to ask Jesus to take away evil memory recall. You don’t forget that you saw what you saw but you don’t get tormented. God is good. Whenever there doesn’t seem to be a way remember Jesus said, “I am the way.”
It’s also Christmas right now. So worth it to read Matthew, Luke, or my favorite, John. Especially John 1 & 3 “in the beginning was the Word… The word was made flesh…. Though the world was made through him, so many in the world did not recognize him, the arm of the Lord.” See also Isaiah 53. That would take 10 minutes.Even Christian miss out on all the good God has for us. I’ve shifted my realization to the fact that we still live in Bible days, and miracles start to happen, when you pray in faith that they do happen, when you pray the will of God, by praying scripture over situation, we need to know scripture first.
Patrick’s dad too. I started to tear up at Joe Morrissey’a last words:
_”Patrick lay down and be quiet, do it for Daddy!”_
Shawn Tundidor turned out to be a stand up person despite being raised by a terrible person. Serious respect for that guy. ❤
Amen🙏
A man with integrity.
@mandykay8629 brothers do not share the same brain chemistry, same exact trauma/experiences and also do not have the same threshold for PTSD and other related secondary mental illnesses. I get what you're saying and I'm not making excuses for anyone but it's really just not that simple. Nothing is that simple. Lots of gray areas here, no black and white.
Also, the murderer son was also the oldest. He probably went through more & worse abuse. He had no older brother to protect and/or guide him.
So we really just can't compare people with similar life experiences and say "well, so and so didn't kill anyone so this other person is just evil, and that's it". There's just so much more to humans and our brains. When our brains are damaged, just like a liver, they won't work right at all. They will fail partially/completely and cause serious symptoms. Everyone's symptoms vary and for a lot of reasons.
It would, however, be so easy for Shawn to excuse bad behavior because of a bad childhood. So I absolutely commend him for his actions. It's truly inspirational and amazing. I don't want to discount that as if he had some great advantage over his brother. His struggle I'm sure, was great.
@mandykay8629 psychologists generally don't use that term. Philosophers do. You misunderstand what is meant by free will. "free will" as a concept is nothing to do with if a concious person understands what they are doing and understand right from wrong in the context of a court case. "free will" is a metaphysical concept and the opposite of determinism. In determinism all of the actions and events in the universe are already determined by an external entity. That includes all of consciousness, that doesn't mean people aren't making decisions that they can understand within the world. The judge is also part of that world. The juries decisions are also part of that world. It make no difference to outcome of a trial because everything would exist either as free will or as determinism regardless. What I think you are talking about is either nature vs. nature or whether a person can be fully culpable due to their state of mind during a crime.
The free will vs. determinism that would only matter in the context of higher being external to the the physical world. If that higher being has already determined anything could they really be Judged (capital J), external to the physical world? The issue is religion uses both determinism and free will when it suits. It uses determinism, to underpin creation and the inability to defy gods plan but free will to explain the failures.
In a court case they would have to plead not guilt due insanity for this to come up which is a legal concept different from medical insanity. Of the counsel / judge would have to enter a pea on their behalf becuase they not fit to stand trial, or the judge out have declare them not fit to stand trial. Typical it is forensic psychiatrist who woudl testify. But a psychologist may also. There is also diminished responsibility but hat is a guilty plea but with mitigation.
Background may come up in sentencing, but is rare for it to come up in the trial itself unless it is directly related to the facts.
It is not nature vs nurture, it nature __and__ nurture and everything is ultimately nature anyway. We can be a product of a neurology and still have a concious mind that acts. Mens rea mean guilty mind. It is the mind that tried not the neural network.
I love what he said at the end: “If you think I’m a snitch and I didn’t do the right thing, then you’re just as bad as a guy that committed that murder, so I don’t care!” 21:05 - 21:11
Not a snitch, a hero. Truly. I've watched so many of these but this one touched me like no other. The strength and courage of Patrick and Shawn are amazing and inspiring.
Exactly. I've watched probably like 50 cases and this is the one that has really got me
I wish every adoptive parent was like these two. They were raising a wonderful and intelligent young man. RIP Joe Morrissey.
Why every adopted parent? The majority have been found to be better than birth parents
@@TheKnoxvicious
Why not ..
Not everyone is
@@TheKnoxviciousWell that would only make sense if the majority was as high as the people who have kids, which it's not. Alot of people adopt and treat kids like shit, too. It's not a sacred category
@@TheKnoxviciousthat’s not true at all. they have support groups with millions of members that are adopted children with awful adoptive families.
@@muckyboys6658
And how many support groups are there for children who need that for their natural families?
“If you think I’m a snitch and did the wrong thing, then you’re as bad as the e people who commit the murder”. Wow, I salute you my friend! Amazing words
Why did the murderer commit the murder? Is it a disease? Can't it be identified and cured? Loss of life is one of the greatest losses especially title family. What do these ppl get out of it?
@@shaksheedigitalmarketing No one who takes a life (non-defensively) deserves to continue living theirs.
Exactly 💯
@@Houls_ I was talking about preventing it. Not after it happened.
@@shaksheedigitalmarketing it i evil. selfishness. we cant fix it without God.
The older brother exposing his father was a powerful thing. Their father was evil and manipulative. His actions stopped a vicious cycle, saved a life and hopefully bought that poor mom some justice. I'm praying for the young son's wellbeing and that he gets the long term care he will need for his ptsd.
How was his father evil? I wanted to know what his goal was?
@@thedesensitizedsympathizer5307
Wdym how is he evil? He murdered someone. Also his motive was that he didn’t want to be evicted and he couldn’t be from a dead man
@@thedesensitizedsympathizer5307fym how is he evil?
@@thedesensitizedsympathizer5307ur a weirdo for that pal
@@Pewpewpewdamnnnnnhegotshot He could'of just squatted.
Shawn if you ever see this-you are amazing. You did a good thing. That family got justice BECAUSE of you. You saved who knows how many people by doing what you did. You broke the cycle. You did it.
Patrick. You are a hero. You are beautiful and strong. You saved your mother and you got justice for your dad. Be proud of your amazing strength! I’m sorry for your loss.
2 heroes in this story. Patrick for saving his mother and Shawn for standing up for what is right.
and Joe, who died protecting his family
WOW , I literally just commented the exact same thing without even reading your comment , then I added Mew's addition also without reading his comment , that's some freaky friday stuff *_*
@@MewBunn3-ty5yr another hero but overshadowed by the main heroes
@BaldMonkeEditz Shawn's brother is also a good guy without his testimony they wouldn't have been able to catch his evil father
@@LucreceaFinalfantasy hmm
Shawn Tundidor, you are a stand up guy. Seriously, good on you for doing what was right. You aren't like your father or brother, so don't let anyone tell you otherwise. You also aren't a snitch. This took a lot of courage and strength to come forward with that information about your dad and brother. A snitch would have been a coward, and you sir, are no coward.
Edited to fix spelling errors. Please don't condemn me to hell for this most heinous sin.
On top of this, who knows what would have happened if he HADN’T testified. The child and his mother could potentially be in grave danger of the father and older brother coming back to try and k!ll them again.
@@se7ense7ens37 oh yeah i agree 💯% I'm sure they would have finished what they started. Sad that there are people like that in this world.
Is it a snitch to report the crimes of a bully?
If a sister tattles on a mean brother and he is punished, it is his own fault. Hold the wicked accountable and reward the good people.
@@AffectionateCorgi-sz7qe What if your brother was perfectly okay with throwing you under the bus and letting you take the blame for the murders?
Because Randy Sr. clearly didn't care about his sons, so why should the sons be loyal and seek to protect him for his crimes? You are foolish and equally as bad if you turn a blind eye to evil deeds just because family are the ones commiting them, you're really are out here claiming 1000 lives aren't important enough 🤦♀️
Shawn has a lot of courage to turn in his father who is such a monster and his brother. He did the right thing and in a way is a hero despite his upbringing. I feel the need to pray for him 🙏
Monika, your profile picture is everything I aspire to be.
@@KairiBakugou-dw4fx 🤨
@@KairiBakugou-dw4fx lmao whyyyyyyyyyy
Thank you for praying for him. ❤
I don't think he turned his brother. His brother was a drug addict and he knew that if he was involved it was his fathers doing. And he was right. Guy got his son high on crack and then told him go rob someone and get more.
2 types of Father here. A biological father who sacrificed his 2 son to save his own life vs An Adoptive Father who sacrifice his life for his son. Father's love is not always about blood. 😢
💯💯💯
My dad is the latter. He hasn’t adopted my brother legally because he respected his decision since he met him but no doubt he would put his life on the line for him. It’s been nearly 30 years since he first met him, he already wanted a woman with a child because at the age he was at he never thought or planned he would have bio children.
Bio parents doesn’t equal loving parents, my brothers dad wouldn’t give a single drop of blood to my brother, my dad will give all the blood he has.
Step and adoptive parents can be 200% more caring than bio parents depending on their morals
I seen it only happen western countries . Indian father are diff . They fight for their blood and only thier blood . They either kill or get killed
@@Raven84729that was the whole point of his comment👌
Thank you captain obvious, you literally said word for word what they say in the video.
As sad as this story is, it’s almost poetic in a way. Two fathers, polar opposites in regards to their families. One father, using his last words to protect and comfort his son in such a terrifying situation. While you have the other “father” who would throw his own children under the bus for a Klondike bar.
The second father is vile, disgusting, and downright evil
well put
What would you do for a Klondike bar?
I think a significant part of this poetry also lies in the heroic father being adoptive, while the 'bound-by-blood' biological father was one that you had to put between quotation marks, because he did not live up to what constitutes a true father, while conversely it is many people's belief that adoptive parents can't live up to the role and connection that a biological parent has in a child's life. So this shows how that narrative in reality can be completely opposite with these two examples connected in one case. The "real" father, wasn't a real father - and vice versa.
And it looks like that guy has had a LOT of Klondike bars.
"I saved my mom" . . . . that's gotta hit hard when he thinks about it as a grown man.
The baggage that a situation like this would make for a child is terrible. I can't imagine how long it would take for you to process all that happened.
I had childhood trauma from a terrorist incident when I was seven, and I don't think I really processed it until my twenties.@@chunkycornbread4773
He would probably blame himself for not saving his dad. That’s what typically happens with survivors.
And when he followed that up with "my mom told me."
That brother coming forward & then even helping with the investigation is a good man.
@Hello there, how are you doing this blessed day?
Poor Patrick, a little kid should never see that, especially if its who they love. He was so pure and innocent, he didnt understand that his father was actually DEAD, gone. I give my respect to Shawn, he didnt keep silent and brought justice. Very proud of them for their bravery.
There are 3 heroes in this story. One a stand up man who stood against his own family to do the right thing. One a father, a damn good father, who fought and sacrificed himself to try and save his family. One, a young man raised by that example of a good father who loved and listened to his parents, saving his and his mothers lives. What an incredible story. If anybody ever asks me why I believe in the death penalty, this story is another great example of human filth that don't deserve to occupy the same reality as the 3 heroes who stopped them.
👊😇 AMEN ❤
The little had PDS it has bad consequences in future
👍🙏
I'm sure you mean well.
@@Jesjesionkapds means?
I’m very surprised this kid’s face isn’t blurred!
Because he is an adult now
@@waterbucket4358right lol
Probably because he's much older now and doesn't look the same. But you're right, I still think his face should be blurred.
@@kaykepop4084this footage is already all over the internet, has been all over the news etc etc. so blurring his face now makes no sense…
I mean this is being shown 13 years later. The kid is now 18.
'you're a hero'
*nods* 'my mom said'
that's precious
That moment broke me. I hope that he and his mom can find peace in this life, and that everything good comes their way. Just a horrific experience.
LOL I THOUGHT HE SAID “MY MOMS DEAD”😂😂😂😂😂
@@mr_magical_mix300same lol
@@mr_magical_mix300 retarded response
I thought he said “I’m upset”
Hats off to the investigator asking that small, innocent child questions. He was really calm, patient and got down on Patrick's level without making it too scary. Poor lil guy, hope he's been taken care of.
This is so sad! 😢 i hope the mom and the sweet little boy are doing okay. The man who exposed his father and brother is an amazing person, what he did was so honorable.
All he did was snitch. Nothing to be proud about
@@samle9131 How old are you? 5?
Remember that the boy will now be 18/19. I hope he has got over the trauma. He may soon be starting uni. I wish him well.
@@samle9131ugly mindset
@@samle9131He has a message for you that was in fact put in this video: "If you think I'm a bad person because I'm a snitch, you're no better than the person who committed murder."
A tale of two fathers - one who raised his family up, and one who was content to throw his own child under the bus, manipulating him into committing crimes that put him in prison. A tale of two sons - one who ran to get scissors to cut his mother free, and a son who saw his father for the evil man he was and decided to do something incredibly brave to put his father in prison for the rest of his life. It’s a mad world.
You just stated exactly what happened. He abused his son to get him to do that crime. Then he blamed both sons for what he did. The son he utilized for the crime has mental health conditions since he was little, still his father set him up to be a criminal and going to prison for 40 years
So deep
It's pretty chill
It reminds me of that case Mr Ballen covered where a dad murdered a medical student and his gf on his yacht and threatened his own teenage sons who witnessed the whole thing into silence
@@lizxu322Or the January Sixth traitor who threatened his own children-----and they turned him in.
RIP Joseph. To say you are a wonderful father is an understatement. You are beyond that. You raised a heroic son and touched the hearts of many.
Oh man, you knew him?
@@sernity1523 shut your stupid mouth
How was the son heroic?
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Snitch?? Absolutely NOT! HERO! Just like the little boy who saved his mum. Love to you both. It took a lot of courage and emotional strength to do what you both have done. ❤
This whole story just goes to show how much a father can influence the trajectory of your whole life, either to become someone elses hero, or someone elses villain. Two amazing and brave young men.
It also shows that cycle can be broken with Shawn
Correct, 3 different sons 3 different fathers.
1 absent biological father
1 great adoptive parent
1 father that created a crackhead that robbed and committed crimes and the other one learned from his brother and father and did the right thing and turn them in. He knew he has lost them when they did what they did. Morals are very powerful and lacking them reciprocates that.
@@gildardomagallonyou don’t know anything about the bio parents. Don’t assume anything.
@@BodhiSteinbach He literally just said they are absent... which is true otherwise he wouldn't have been adopted.
I'm an old man, and I've been on this planet for a long time. But there are still times when I'm shocked by the evil acts people are capable of. This is one of those times.
At 30 and someone who follows true crime content, the depth of evil knows no boundaries. This story isn't the worst of it yet.
@@je.suis.prisciEvery video I watch gets worse, it's crazy..
I’m 48 and there are times I’m shocked by the depths of depravity and the evil people go to, but I’m also given hope when people do extraordinary acts of bravery, love and compassion in the face of evil. This story has elements of both. On the one hand there’s a father who terrorised his family and used his son’s addiction to do a heinous crime, on the other hand there’s a father who sacrificed himself to save his son, a little boy who acted bravely, and another son who went against his family to do the right thing.
I’ve followed true crime for many years and there are many stories I consider worse, but when looking at all the elements it’s a very shocking and senseless crime. A life taken for something as trivial as an eviction.
@@je.suis.prisci any recommendations for true crime content?
@@jayxee4606not the person you asked but i can recommend: dreading, explore with us, Kendall Rae, and JCS. I feel other true crime UA-camrs can be a bit disrespectful to the victims but these few seem to report crimes with integrity and respect.
Shawn and Patrick are people we NEED in this world! Patrick's dad is the father that every child deserves!
Such a heartbreaking crime :(. As someone who lives with PTSD, I can only imagine how it felt for a five year old. I hope he knows that he truly is a hero for saving his Mom. Glad justice was served for the murderers!
I feel sorry for Randy Jr for his father using his addiction against him and manipulating him plus he abused his sons, what a disgusting evil man.
Yeah he seemed like a pretty broken dude, he pleaded guilty and didn’t try to justify what he did. Sad really and I’m glad his sentence wasn’t too harsh.
@@The_JackYT Wasn't too harsh, he says, seeing a 40 year sentence for a man who isn't yet even 40.
@@Cugaed well I mean he did kill a man, so yeah considering what he did 40 years is pretty fucking light
@@The_JackYT Seems likely the father actually carried out the murder, since they took him back inside the house to do it. The son was certainly complicit, controlled by drugs. He looked better after prison than before when on remand.
@@barbaramcmillan3835 I highly doubt that considering the maximum sentence for conspiracy to murder is 25 years and he got 40, and what you’re saying is a theory but not confirmed. Though it is not improbable for him to have killed him in a drug induced frenzy.
The son turning his dad in is a real one .
Patrick is 18 now, what a horrible thing to have to deal with as a 5 year old. I wish there were updates about how he is doing with his ptsd now.
Damn.. he’s literally 1 year younger than me. It’s crazy because traumatic experiences like that can make someone still feel the shockwaves of it for the rest of their life. If he’s going to college I really hope he has a good support system because PTSD is far from easy to deal with. Seemed like a brave boy at 5 I’m sure his inherent character hasn’t changed
@@daffyducksmashedinablockof8634 I'm just wondering if there is a way to cure PTSD yet? Because I couldn't even imagine the pain and terror Patrick would've been facing over years... it is just so traumatic:/
no.
no 'cure' for PTSD.
just 🎶" time and
love"🎶
PTSD is basically a severe anxiety disorder. ie: no matter how brave you were at the time, the rest of your life you'll battle fear...
I have it.
from age 9.
I've lived my whole life fighting through fear.
even in my sleep.
but when something truly frightening happens...
you want me there. I don't let ANYone fck with me - since I was 9.
nor with ANY vulnerable people.
(or animals!)
@@rainbowsweetie6298 the cure is in the remembrance of Allah:
Surely in the remembrance of Allah do hearts find comfort. Quran 13: 28
@@rainbowsweetie6298Mental disorders etc are much harder to "cure" than physicals ones if even possible. The best they can do for him is help him move on and help the trauma be less severe. If there was a cure there wouldn't be hundreds of thousands of war vets, s*xual victims, ab*se victims still struggling with it for decades.
both Shawn and Patrick are true heroes and I hope they both take pride in themselves and their brave actions. idk why but this case made me very emotional. I watch a lot of true crime and not much touches me but this really did.
Shawn and patrick are both heroes in this case. Patrick saved his mom, and shawn displayed the truth for justice. I dont even know them but im so damn proud of both of them for being so brave
What a stand up guy. Turning in your dad and brother has to be hard but was the right thing. Even being raised by a monster this young man decided to be a good person. We all have choices in life.
I really hope that Patrick is mentally okay. It’s been 13 years since then and he should be 18 years old. I can’t imagine how rough it has been for him, especially puberty, having to deal with the idiosyncrasy of trauma after and the usual growing pains of adolescenthood
Yes you are right I agree with you 100% all the way from Baton Rouge Louisiana 2023
Jesus Christ how much big words you need, thanks though because I learned a new word “idiosyncratic “
He’s clearly super bright too. Hope he’s doing alright
He was 10 years old when this happen. 13 years ago....how does that make him 18 now. ..wut?
are you drunk, it is literally said he is 5@@baxterstockman2191
21:04 I wanna time stamp this statement very quick, no matter what happens. Always stand for what's right and what is true. This quote will forever remain with me. Much love to Patrick, his mother and his sisters family. May God bless their souls and keep them safe. 🙏
Shawn, you're not a snitch, you're a hero who brings justice for a father who died protecting his family
I agree completely he's more of a man than that nit wit brother of his
He chose not to be the monster he could've been. That's strength right there.
Be a good person shawn. You got my respect 💯
The dichotomy between the two fathers and the way the story played out is truly tragic. This is beyond sad, cruel and unfair.
The thing that makes me so mad about cases like this is the motive is always such bullshit. Whenever there's someone who's actually being fucked over, they either fight it the legal way or are forced to just roll over and take it. But there's always a murderer out there who can turn an insignificant minor issue into a reason for somebody to die
I just can't help but feel the weight of the person who is clearly missing from the last photo. May Patrick and his mom continue to find peace in life and in each other.
Who took it though?
@@hiiambarney4489a photographer probably💀
his last words to his son, being to soothe him :( im crying
I have MAD respect for Shawn. No words, just respect.
‘If you say I’m a snitch, you’re just as bad as the one who committed the crime’ words to live by.
The son who turned in his Father is such a Good Man .
God Bless 🙏🏾 him .
Dios Bendigo to the Family
It’s so heart breaking seeing how small he is in the chair. He was so young and had to deal with this. He never deserved this
it's so sad to see patrick say things like, "my dad died" and "he put a gun to my mom and dad's head" so innocently and easily, he doesn't understand the depth of what happened. randy gave so much tramua to patrick at such a young age, he is an absolute monster.
The only good news is that he will likely not remember many of the finer details of this event since he's so young. But it will likely haunt him forever. It might be even worse now since, while this is good to have up, he can look it up at any time.
@@xxhowisuxx I truly hope he doesnt remember the finer details, me and my mom had our home robbed when I was 5 years as well, put towels on our heads and pointed guns to us, tied me with a fucking gamecube power cable, mom thought they were going to kills us, thankfully they only robed the place and left a while after, but I still remember every single detail
@@xxhowisuxxabsolutely untrue. I experienced a series pretty traumatic incident at 5 years old and I remember all of it.
5 year olds like anyone might forget mundane simple regular stuff but they won't forget something like this.
Don't delude yourself thinking a 5 year old or even a 2 year old forgets any of these things
Sometimes with healing the details can begin to fade. I remember more than enough of my worst traumas, but it takes longer and longer to dredge them up and they're murky for long enough that I can think about other things without ever needing to find out how much I remember. Just a few years ago, it would rush back like a landslide over the tiniest reminders. I'd hate to have forgotten before getting a chance to understand why I reacted fearfully to the things I did, though. I hope this family is finding peace.
Shawn is a wonderful man. His upbringing could have easily led him to be involved, but he made a conscious decision to be a better man than the example he grew up with.
Saw her mom calling..’’I almost didn’t pick up..’’ you pick up every time family calls and ESPECIALLY if they are calling at an unusual time
She saw a call... She didn't say it was her mom's number... Her mom probably left her phone in the house which would have been a crime scene
The bravery to stand up against your family when they did something wrong.
And when you know there is literally a risk of your family murdering you for doing so!!!!
A story of a man fighting in his final moments to try and keep his family safe, and another man who throws his own flesh and blood under the bus to save his own skin.
the Duality of man.
Yeah. What I don't understand is why they didn't say what happened to the father. He was taken downstairs and the boy didn't hear him anymore. How did he die? Did I miss something?
@@annwithaplan9766 They mentioned "murder weapon" before. That paired with the fact that there was no gun shot implies it was probably from a knife or blunt force object. (Although a gun counts as a murder weapon, typically I would imagine criminals would just call a gun what it is).
Major respect to Shawn, he’s the reason why they got justice.
Absolutely. It can't be easy to turn in your own father, but his father was the disloyal one at the end of the day.
Respect to Shawn for standing for his morals over family loyalty. That’s a good man that’s a good human being.
No one with even the minutest bit of decency could call Shawn a snitch. He stood up for what was right and made sure justice was served 👏🏻
What a story of bravery and heroism! God bless Shawn, Patrick, and his mom.
Also, the sister. What an awful thing to see your Mother bloody standing shocked telling you her husband was just murdered. 😢
Shawn is an amazing person. What he did was one of the most difficult things a person would have to do. He's incredibly brave.
He had already been threatened with death if he told anyone about a previous murder his father carried out, he knew his life was not safe as long as his father was free.
Idk how this channel afords all the writing, filming, interviewing, and general production quality they do with less than a million subscribers, but I'm glad they can. Great work.
So much disgust for that “father” - what a piece of garbage
And to immediately threaten his own son when he mentions the crime...😡
Pure evil if not possessed. What other crimes has he commited
@@MikeMadison-z7o The son mentioned another murder, which was the one when his father threatened him with death if he ever told.
Im so proud of the younger son. Hes more of a man than his father ever was.
Say it again you are right
This actually made me cry..... Shawn is a great and brave guy, Patrick is a hero for his dad and his family...🥺 JUSTICE PREVAILS
Hearing him talk about all of this without fully understanding breaks my heart. I have a 5 year old brother right now and I cannot imagine hearing him speak this way. Things like this make my chest hurt.
“Robbers attacked our house… and… my dad died” man I can’t see out my eyes anymore there’s too many tears
So proud of Shawn.
The duality of the fathers in this case is mind-blowing to me.
Oh my goodness that little boy is soooooo adorable!!! Such a big boy while talking to the cop. It's very sad.
Bless him forever, dear child. Also, talk about great parents, they taught him to be brave and tell the truth.
❤ Yes. I just watched the part where the cop called him a hero. He got a little smile and said, "Yep, my Mommy said." 😢
Sean is an angel. A warrior! So much more than a hero. It takes more strength than anyone to stand up against your own family, for what is right!!! I applaud Sean T.
No words can describe the actions of 5 yr old Patrick to save his mom. Hero, warrior and angel just could never cover it❤.
Thanks to Shawn for helping the investigation. He's amazing! He did the right thing. Others would have tried to protect their family members who have committed murder. Those types of people who protect murderers are also guilty of the crime. Patrick is an amazing little boy as well. Sorry for your loss Patrick. 😢
This channel always makes me emotional.. 5 years old showing signs of PTSD is just heartbreaking
Shaun and Patrick are both heros. Thank God there are children out there breaking the cycle of abuse! I hope they both have happy beautiful lives!!!
Shawn is my friend I recently met. He is a good guy. He still does love his brother but his dad is dead to him. Im so proud of him. He actually told me about this. I was shocked but very proud of him.
"If you think I'm a snitch and I didn't do the right thing? Then youre just as bad as the guy committing that murder. So I don't care."
This hit hard. You are an honorable man Shawn!
When he said “My dad died..” my heart sank no child has to experience this ever
So sad. Poor Patrick didn't understand what it means to be dead. Him thinking that dad will be back broke my heart. Am glad he listened to his dad and laid low. He is a very smart boy at his young age. Joe was such a good father unlike Randy, He is a bad father. He was willing to accuse his sons in order to save himself Sean did the right thing. Thank you Sean. May Allah bless you for that good act. RIP Joe.
Allah isn't real
Ameen
☺️ May he bless you too. And. Grant you your heart desires 🤲🏾 Ameen.
Ameen
@@dru8432 ☺️ May Allah Grant you your heart desires.
“My dad is on the airplane, he's coming home!”
That broke my heart into millions of pieces. He didn't understand at the time that Joe was gone. ☹️
For Shawn to turn against his father and tell the truth is so brave and commendable! Though two families are ruined through one man’s greed 😢
It must be so hard to interrogate a kid, wow Patrick, so sorry for your loss little one, you are a hero 🙏🏼
that wasnt an interrogation. he wasnt a suspect, he was just being asked to tell his story as a witness
@@Riftweaver1981you can interrogate vitnesses and suspects.
@@Riftweaver1981lmao AKA an interrogation.
That cop must have struggled hearing this child describing a murder scene.
@@sopcannonyeah definitely deep down, but these hardened detectives don't let that stop them nor show their emotions.
Shawn Tundidor is a brave man for telling the truth. His gesture saved a lot of time and grief to the Mother and surviving son. The little boy is a hero, i hope he got honored by the city.
Been watching crime documentaries and this is the first one that made me cry. Damn, Patrick was so brave - braver than I am. RIP to his loving father. Am glad that Shawn helped and that justice was fully served.
I managed to not cry the entire time until he said “please. Please do it for daddy” that broke me mannnn…
He cared more about his adoptive son than the guy with actual biological sons.
Sean is an amazing man and he is the breaker of generational curses and will bring honor to his family's name with what he did. He has an amazing moral compass. His father is a terrible person and deserved everything he got. Patrick is a hero. Poor baby to have to witness that. I'm glad your family got justice. I wish none of it ever happened to you. You had an amazing husband and father who was a hero to the end.
Shawn did not bring honor to our family, he is my cousin, my mother Patricia Tundidor is Randy Sr sister..... Shawn was the actual killer and Randy Jr was protecting his baby brother by testifying against my uncle....you all are fucking gullible to believe him
Wow… so many heroes in this story. What a tearjerker.
Patrick saved his mother, Joe saved Patrick, and the last man did such an incredible and honorable, yet difficult thing to do too, I’m sure. (I’m trying not to reveal too much for anyone who hasn’t finished watching this yet.)
I couldn’t imagine what they went through. Rest In Peace Joe Morrissey.
This story is so emotional. Two breave kids, both lost their father in different way.
Bravo to the son who told the truth about his dad. That shows he's not the same man his dad is and that's a positive thing.
The fact that Randy used his son's addiction against him is one of the most disgusting things I've ever heard. I feel like 40 years was too much for someone who was manipulated and drugged.
He still took that guys life, your moral compass is skewed if you believe 40 years is too long for somebody that entered a family’s home in the middle of the night and committed a murder given drugs or manipulated or not the time should reflect the severity of the crime
I agree that perhaps the son who was abused by the father and then had his drug addiction used against him might possibly be able to be rehabilitated. The father deserves to have a life if not a death behind bars. But the eldest brother Shawn is absolutely a testament to the human spirit that you can be surrounded by abuse, cruelty And immorality and still be a good person and do the right thing, he's the only light in the darkness of that family.
Id say it depends on whether or not the son knew his father was planning on killing the guy, because to me it seemed like the son was under the impression that it was just going to be a robbery or break and enter. If he didnt know his dad’s intentions then i agree 40 years seems harsh, but if thats not the case then even with manipulation if you can be manipulated to murder its justified
We see ppl get 5-25 for killing families in drunk driving cases, it's extremely similar. He was high off $100 worth of crack, which is quite a bit and THEN was told it was just a simple robbery which is damn near a victimless crime (to a creek head) on top of all that is was his dad, so he was manipulated on so many levels, i feel 20 and rehab would've been fair while giving the father life without parole, no death sentence, let them dreams torment him for the rest of his living days @wrathofthegods4739
@@wrathofthegods4739No the father killed him and got life. Junior got 40yrs for being involved. Which I also think it’s too much for someone who was coerced and drugged.
Thank you, Shawn. What you did took courage. I believe your brother would not have participated in your fathers plan if he had not been manipulated by the drugs your father gave him. I know he will be clean now, with being in prison, and I can only imagine his remorse. Thank you for being you, you saved a family and your brother.
I thought the same thing that when he was on the stand and had clean time that he is probably living with what he did and regrets it not just because his is in jail, as he should. But a father getting his addict child all cracked out to commit a crime like this is disgusting.
Agreed, hopefully they give him the teraphy for addiction and psicologist; seems like he was used and abused by his father to commit all kind of crimes. I hope he gets less time in prison.
@azukita9157 He received 40 yrs in prison. His father received the death penalty. I would imagine part of the sons treatment to become clean in prison would have been support by a psychologist. I imagine all in this case will need therapy. So sad. 😢
Yeah it sounds like after getting clean, he realized what a piece of shit his dad is. I wouldn't be surprised if his dad helped him get addicted in the first place.
Think again. Drugs are rampant in prisons.
I'm so happy when kids grow up and finally hold their abusive parents accountable. And in this case, Shawn helped a lot of others as well.
It’s heartbreaking hearing the kid talk about such a horrific tragedy with the innocence that children have.
We get the polar opposite of fathers here one who will do anything for his child when the other would happily betray his kids to save his own skin.
I think that’s just the case with humans in general. We may have evolved in terms of societal improvements, technology, language/arts, etc, but we’re still our base selves when it comes down to instincts. Some of us are wired to do right by our families and communities, some of us are wired to prey on and take advantage of others. When the former comes together to deal with the latter, society as a whole improves. When the latter run rampant over the former, society begins to break down and people point fingers to assign blame as opposed to determining what they can do to help improve the community’s outlook. If there were more people like this little boy I’d have more faith that the good will overcome the bad but I just don’t know any more.
malignant narcissism at it's finest.
Mad respect for Patrick with only 5 years, rescued his mom and last but not least, Shawn Tundidor for standing up for this family by turning in his dad.
With the kid being in the title, I would’ve thought he would have a more pivotal role in this case ( well, as a 5-year old could) but Shawn coming forward and confessing the truth about his family deserves mention too
Shawn is an amazing man. He did what was right OVER protecting his dad and brother for the terrible things they did. That takes a lot of courage and integrity. Happy for him he is NOT like his dad and proved it by being honest and wanting to help Patrick and his mom. That will help them to start to heal over the loss of their dad and husband. Such a sad story!
Shawn was so brave, he did the right thing. I feel bad for Randy Jr. too, he was an addict and his own father preyed on that vulnerability and convinced him to do something he might otherwise not have done. It's absolutely tragic all across the board, so many victims due to one selfish man.
you feel bad??? "he was an addict".... eff that.
@@AlaborJintahis dad gave him a bag of crack to smoke knowing he was a crack addict and knowing his true intentions…
Drug don't necessarily make you a bad person. That being said, it sure as hell can bring to light the darker inner thoughts a lot of people harbor and you'd never otherwise know. Just like liquor.
@@AlaborJinta yes, I do. Good people struggle with addiction every day, and like any sickness they need medical attention and more than anything a good support system. Unfortunately, all Randy Jr. had for guidance is a father with no intention of actually helping him, but used his son's addiction to get what he wanted. Yes, I feel bad for him. I'd wager if his father didn't hand him those drugs, he never would have killed or assisted in murder. He's a victim too, and he has to live with what his father lead him to do. He needed his dad to help him, and instead he was betrayed in a terrible way. He made his son an accomplice to murder. That's a heinous thing to do to your child, much less the family they attacked.
He was weak. I've smoked crack. Not that much, but over the years, it has been about a hundred times. It makes you want more as soon as the high wears off. Its highly addictive. It becomes a fight against your own brain chemistry, which I excell at. I have tremendous will power. I even quit tobacco cold-turkey. The guys I smoked crack with CANNOT control themselves. They are weak. They will give away all their money, their car, the shirt off their back to get another hit. It disgusts me. I only smoke crack alone now because of people like this. I spend forty bucks on it and then I quit. It's gone. Most people start looking in the floor and end up trying to get more, spending five hundred dollars in a night once. That's what it does to you. You have to fight it. It's really hard for me to fight my own brain when there's also a crack addict begging you to get more. I have to fight myself AND them. It ends up with me kicking them out of my apartment and then I slam a bunch of beer, brush my teeth and take a shower. The feeling of immediate addiction fades after a few hours. Then it becomes more of a craving than addiction. Then I see my friend two days later, dirty and out of his mind because he hasn't slept. He's still smoking it and already given up everything he owns. Then he wants MORE.
What happened to this man, his wife and their little boy is beyond heartbreaking. The son that spoke up about what his father did is a hero as well. How hard that would be but I think there were two hero’s here. I hope that the little boy can live a good life and not be fraught with PTSD for what he had to witness.
Ptsd what's the full form
Ptsd what's the full form
Post-traumatic stress disorder
@@shaksheedigitalmarketingpost traumatic stress disorder
Shawn you are not a snitch,you are a man with heart and feelings,you are a human,the way god sends Patrick as hero to his mom , i found you a hero for the whole community ,you are a great man with a good heart, salut brother for the hard working in the case . congratulations brother we all at the United States of America welcome you as a friend and great neighbor in hour society.
Patrick and Shawn the heroes for this heart breaking story.
This case broke my heart. You have the opposite sides of the spectrum: the father that spent his last moments protecting his family, and the one that has no issues seeing his sons going to jail. Poor Patrick.