G. Loomis NRX+ LP vs Douglas SKY G (Fly Rod Review & Comparison)
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- Опубліковано 30 кві 2020
- A review and comparison of the top two trout rods on the market right now...
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Maybe you've heard the hype, maybe you haven't. Douglas' brand new 5wt fly rod is certainly making waves in an industry that constantly rewards innovation and performance-based design. This rod has been touted as the best 5wt fly rod on the market and some people have even claimed it's the best trout rod of all time.
How does it compare to the NRX+ LP?
The first iteration of the G. Loomis NRX LP was one of our favorite dry fly rods of all time. The rod was lightweight, extremely accurate, and provided the angler with loads of feedback and feel. In some ways, I think the old version of the NRX LP shifted the industry in a new direction; after Loomis' success with the old NRX LP, rod companies like Sage, Thomas & Thomas, Orvis, and others have put time, research, and money into a moderate-action dry fly rod series.
Watch the review and comparison of the top two trout rods on the market right now.
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Thank you Ben for great compare between both great rods.
Thank you for the review.
It would be nice to have a comparison to the old NRX LP.
How does it cast with the Wulff TT? I use it on all my old NRX LP rods. On the underdog 9' 4WT LP, the Wulff TT is pure casting pleasure!
I was surprised to discover the RIO Technical Trout casts very well on my old 5WT LP.
If you cast a Sky, you will end up buying it. Love mine and have never regretted it. I’m sure the Loomis is great too, I just drifted away from that brand years ago.
Hi Rob! Everyone who casts the Sky G says the same thing. The LP is a great Dry Fly rod, whereas the Sky G might hold the slight advantage in the overall category. You cannot go wrong with either one. Tight lines!
@@Tridentflyfishing Hi Ben, I just sold a Sage XP and a Winston LT to purchase a new 5wt 9 footer. Is the Sky G still the best all around 5w9'? This video was 3 yrs ago and my question is, is there anything better that is new on the market since the sky g was released?
Kind Regards
~Matt
Great Review Ben 👍🇺🇸
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Too all good Luck on the water
The Vermonter
Can. you point to a recent 6 wt video of top_end rods. Looking to add a new rod this year. Considering Winston, Scott, GLoomis, other
Went with the Sky G and glad I did.
Hard to go wrong
Thank you. We appreciate your videos. Respectfully and ideally, they would be tested with their optimal lines, as it makes a very significant difference. IMHO, most knowledgeable/skilled casters would not want an MPX or Perception (still very heavy) line for an LP series Loomis or similar rod. I realize you said you didn’t have it with you, but it appears that MPX is typically what is used in the videos. Kind regards.
Ryan Stines there are no such thing as a optimal line for any rod, its all subjective
What one guy finds perfect for a spesific rod another finds that setup horrible too heavy or too light
The reason alot of people are using MPX is simply that it is a good allround line for most rods
And skilled casters can easily overload the rod a full size heavier or a full size lighter without problem
We are now in 2020 and thesedays premium rods should be able to use a whole range of lines without problem
But its all up to you to find out which setup works for you but it might not suit the next guy
Right, Mo. It is subjective. It’s subject to my humble opinion and many others. We’re talking about a $795 dollar Lite Presentation rod for discriminating anglers. To me, the purpose of reviews is to try and extrapolate the tiny details of the taper of the rod and its stiffness within a taper. If the reviewer is going to the extent of evaluating these rods using a decimal system, it seems very reasonable to try different lines to the point you find the optimal one for it’s intended purpose. In this case, at heaviest a Rio Gold and better yet, an SA Trout taper. Using a short tapered/heavy headed fly line will still work, but takes away from the sweetness of the intended Lite Presentation. If you want more “general/non-specific “ reviews using any line, that’s completely fine. But in my opinion and many others, niche-type rods absolutely have optimal lines worthy of being reviewed using a decimal system.
@@modicksey7349 you are soooooo right !!! But most people in fly fishing got real big heads ! Great points you make !
steve rajeff says the lp is made to work with the trout taper.
Great review. I agree with a previous comment that the lines used were too heavy. I have the earlier LP and use RIO Gold and SA Mastery Smooth Trout.
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I noticed that you used, what appears to be, a Lamson Liquid on both rods and wanted to know if you had any issues getting the reel to fit the Sky G reel seat? I recently got the Sky G 5wt, but the foot on both my Liquid -5+ and the older 'size 2' version are too big for the reel seat on the rod.
I've also struggled to get my Lamson reel on the Sky G. Its really off-putting to have an $800 rod that is incompatible with one of the most ubiquitous reels on the market.
Thank you for the review. What do you think is the best reel to pair with the 9’ 5 wt Sky G. I was thinking of getting the Nautilus X
The X would be a great choice! Any lightweight reel will work fine.
Great!
Can you do a comparison the NRX+ 8’6” 4wt against the Hardy Ultralight 8’6” 4wt
I’m looking for the best dry fly Rod out there. If I’m missing a Rod please tell me. Thanks
The LP has a softer tip for delicate presentations, and the Ultralite is a little faster. If you are fishing a spinner fall with a longer leader and light tippet go with the LP. If you plan on fishing meadow streams with caddis and terrestrial patterns pick the Ultralite.
Which would you pick for an all purpose trout rod in smaller rivers? 5wt. One of these 2 or the Hardy Ultralite?
Both are top-notch trout rods for smaller rivers and it's tough to go wrong with either. The Sky G's tip is softer than the NRX+ LP and is great at presenting flies at shorter distances. The NRX+ has a stiffer tip which can help with casting nymphs and smaller streamers.
Hi Ben, what are the guides on G. Loomis NRX plus? Are these the same like those on GLX Streamdance? Those flexible one - legged guides or any others? Thanks...
Hi Petr, the snake guides are titanium recoil
@@Tridentflyfishing Ah, thanks Ben... But are those flexible and the same ones like on GLX Streamdance??? Or different ones??? And the same ones like on Asquith? Thank you Ben for answering these questions, Petr from Czech, Europe...
How would both of these rods compare to a sage x for trout fishing?
X would blow them away
@@warrennesteruk89
How so? “Blowing away” an NRX and a top tier Douglas…that’s a pretty bold, definitive, objectively worded statement. Have you done the comparison yourself?
Is the sky G 7wt a good choice for bass and redfish? How does it compare to the Scott Wave?
The Sky G 7wt is a good choice if you want a rod with a softer tip for shorter casts, lighter lines and flies, and better presentation. I really like the Wave 7wt... it's one of my favorites in a great series, but it definitely wants a heavier line. The Wave is a good choice for throwing redfish flies, as well as bass bugs.
@@Tridentflyfishing thanks!!
@@Tridentflyfishing is the Wave 7wt accurate at bass and redfish fishing distances? Say 20-60’?
@@theoutdoordad7395 The Wave might not give you the same feedback at close range as the Sky G. However, it's not a complete clunker. For the average middle-distance shots you'll be making for redfish, it's pretty spot on.
@@theoutdoordad7395 🤙
Its time to stop using "made in the USA" as a guarantee of build quality. The old NRX LP were crap in terms of build: Misaligned guides, really rough sanding on the pitted cork, and hit and miss varnishing and glue jobs. These rods were built in the Loomis factory! Hardy rods, by comparison, are built in Korea and they're jewels. It comes down to management standards and quality control, not which country its made in.
100% agree! I have to say the worse rod I´ve ever bought was a Made In USA Winston rod for $900. Total crap!! I had rods in my hands for $100 with way better quality. And don´t talk about Ross Reels. Do they actually have a quality control??
@@FlyFishingChronicles What rods have been good for you? I am looking a 900 -1000 and was thinking of Winston. Now I am not sure
Agreed... There are some junk rods being made in the USA to this day... Sure we still have some good rods but until recently the NRX was known for sub par build quality.
I went with the Sky G, it felt much better and the build quality looked nicer than the NRX LP to me. I think people are blindly choosing "Made in USA" instead of objectively choosing a rod to serve their purposes.
Japan and S. Korea and making rods with sheer quality.
Good review, however can you really feel the difference in one (1) gram? Additionally, an overseas made fly rod at the same price of a US made fly rod and that didn’t factor into your review? At that price point Douglas needs to figure out how to make things in the US or drop the price by a couple hundred on the Sky G. I’ll take the NRX+LP
How about with double taper line?
We like double taper lines for roll casting and mendability. Just remember, a weight forward line is just half a double taper with thinner running line attached.
@@Tridentflyfishing have been a DT guy for 60+ years I only use WF on lakes. Plus I flip mt DT's every 60 months or so after cleaning and get twice the life or more. Does the NRX handle DT for more than just roll casting?
how do either of these rods compare to the Asquith?
The Asquith is going to be faster and have more power. The NRX+ LP and Douglas Sky G are both presentation rods. Think smaller flies, light tippet and technical fishing situations. Please let us know if you have any more questions! Tight lines
Why the bizarre metric weight?? Are suddenly most of your clients European......? The length of the rod is in feet! Your fly lines and leaders are in feet.... give us something that we can relate to......something squared ?? What does that mean.?
Thanks
Yes, thanks for your reviews! We trust your opinion and appreciate the clarity you bring to a large varity of options! In your position you get to experience a wide rainbow manufactures. Your explanations and comparisons help us in our own pursuit increased pleasure.
just jim
Pursuit" of "increased pleasure!
I wish Sage and Winston made a more technically advanced, superior casting rod, like they used to. They still have superior craftmanship, IMO, but what good is that if they perform like doodoo in comparison to these rods.
Sage X, Sage Trout LL..Winston Air 2...what are you talking about? Also, Sage is releasing a new rod next month.
NRX+590 is money with Rio Technical Trout
I Started fly fishing when I was 14. Taught by my father who was taught by his father. I'm a Welsh man living in Australia with no affiliation , nor am I endorsed by any fishing tackle company. In my opinion, the Douglas Sky G is the best 5 wt fly rod ever produced anywhere ever, bar none. Ben I admire your patriotism, but I have no doubt that if this rod was made in the USA you would of given it 10's across the board. Even the tone of your voice speaks disparagingly when you mention the word " Overseas" South Korea is one of our allies.....A friend.... South Korea these days excel in electronics, telecommunications etc etc and are globally recognized with excellence. This rod is so beautiful on every level, I don't know whether to fish with it or frame it, put it on the wall, pull up a chair and just look at it. I'm not criticizing you Ben, I love your reviews and admire your fishing knowledge. All I'm saying is, anybody out there who wants the best 5wt fly rod in the world...Get the Douglas Sky G now !!
Hi Paul, thanks for taking the time to respond. We are glad to hear you enjoy our reviews. The Sky G is actually one of our highest-rated rods!
Great review but this overseas build vs usa made bullshit cracks me up. Made in America is not a insurance for anything these days, ... exept job for americans, wich is inrelevant in this comparison.
Thanks for watching and for taking the time to respond. While we understand your position, it is a factor for many anglers.
@@Tridentflyfishing Forgoing quality over patriotism hey ?
The Loomis is clearly the better looking rod. I'd assume it has a better build quality too being made in the USA👍
Honestly, build quality and geography is kind of out the window nowadays. It’s all about how much the manufacturer cares. Some of my favorite rods are loomis and st croix USA builds…their fit and finish is just flat out bad at times. NRX, Legend X, all highly variable. That’s not what I buy a rod for anyway so it doesn’t really matter to me. But you’d be surprised…I’ve used some Chinesium nonsense here and there that’s actually far tighter than my American/Japanese rods.
I strongly disagree. If you don't believe me, go to your closest fly fishing shop and find out for yourself. If this rod was made in the USA Ben would of given the Sky G perfect tens. Is this a fly fishing platform or a blow your patriotic bugle platform. On that note, both rods are sensational
g better in close, nrx better out far about the same middle.
The original NRX LP is still better than both , Do not be fooled by the advertising the Douglas cork is shocking as is build quality , Its a cheaply made rod but with great performance , Douglas build overseas and have the cheek to sell for premium money!!! Buy the Old LP !
The problem with buying old equipment is they become hard to find quickly. And used rods don't have a warranty.
I dont have a lot of premium rods, but I can tell you my 8' 6" 4wt sky g is my favorite rod I've ever fished. Superbly accurate, extremely light, good tippet protection and backbone. Can sling small streamers or delicately place a dry fly. Fishes hopper dropper, and light indicator rigs fine too. My point is I don't mind the price I paid even considering the "lack of" quality (still extremely well made) because it's just a super fun and versatile rod to fish! Not to mention the lifetime warranty and $30 repair fee.
$800 good value for a piece of carbon? That is the biggest load of rubbish I've ever heard. Talk about the emperors new clothes.
I always find these comments humorous. Your not just paying for the raw materials and one person earning minimum wage to stamp it together. It's like a $800 CPU in a computer that's only $10 worth of silicon and PCB substrate. The real cost is in the talent, engineering, RnD, and craftsmanship required to make a superior product.
Maybe Dennis has a little top shelf envy ?
USA made all day.
I thought Subaru's were made overseas
@@Doc314 were not talking about cars. 🤦♂️
@@Subaruuu12 An honest review....A review that's unbiased. Should not be based on where its made. That's all I'm saying
@@Doc314 Gloomis, Sage, Winston, Orvis, Scott and a handful of small companies are the only companies making rods in the US. The fly fishing industry is small, US made products are gonna get my money all day.