I’ve owned Toro for years and have loved them. More competition has helped with their pricing dominance. Having switched to Bad Boy I would be hard pressed to go back. The only compare would be that it is so much easier to source parts for Toro which is to be expected. Bad Boy is a winning brand and the quality is over the top.
After 20 years of keeping a MTD mower alive I feel I have graduated from a torture course in keeping a not so great design in service. Of course I look at a Bad Boy with a certain twinkle in my trained eye.
I was going to buy a Maverick HD- but the only carbureted engine they offered was the Kawa 23HP, and 23 horses isn't enough for me on a 60" mower. (Don't wanna deal with the headaches and expenses of repairing EFI after the TWO year warranty ends). So instead I bought the Toro Titan Max...with the 26HP Kohler...it was cheaper, and it's an awesome mower. Shame..I would've liked to have bought the Bad Boy (Well, I think that orange color is horrible anyway)...and the Toro has a FOUR year warranty. (BB only offers the 26 Kohler in the EFI version..no thanks!)
You have to sell to young people. All the old people know what the best stuff is because they've learned from their mistakes and they only buy the best stuff they can afford regardless. Young people's decisions are made on flash and catchy names. Toro isn't a catchy name and deep red isn't a flashy color. People are like fish - you mostly catch young, little fish with flashy lures and seldom catch the big ones that are old. Look at the guy in this video; he's wearing a bright orange shirt to prove my point.
@@DavidA20200 sealed is when it doesn’t have a transmission filter, servicable is when it has a transmission filter and a port on the top to put fresh transmission fluid in it. The sealed units have the same transmission oil in it from beginning of life till end. Serviceable transmissions last longer.
@@howeequipment my 2017 Timecutter SS5000 left transmission is having issues after it warms up for about 40 mins, it won’t engage anymore on that side. I guess I’ll step up to a commercial model so that way it’s serviceable plus it’ll be nice to get all those extra benefits and creature comforts
Because you can service the rear end transaxles on yer mower meaning you can change the rear end oil and filters on each side of the rear axles which means the rear end on yer mower will last just as long as yer motor if you keep the oil changed on it also. How you can tell if the mower yer fixin to buy has a serviceable rear transaxle is if you look under the rear end it will have a filter on each side of the 2 axles
Can you do a video on how to replace the hydro fluid in a 2024 ZT elite with the zt 3100 transmissions? Now that they have removed the expansion tanks it is hard to tell if you are over filling them. Also are you able to add expansion tanks to these models? Thanks for your help.
Asthetics aside, have they improved their quality of cut? I've demoed their lines over the years and they have never been on the level of scag, exmark/toro, ferris, etc cut IMO.
@@lawnmowerman25I'd give it more than an edge. Scag will out cut ferris any day of the week and twice on Sunday. So will the bad boy r series mowers. Ferris aint nothin to get excited about when it comes to cut quality.
I bought a rouge 54 deck that keeps having deck belt issues. They need to update the deck baffles so that it will cut like a toro, scag, hustler. I only have 20 hrs on machine. Wondering if I am the only one having this issue…
Love my Bad Boy mower. It's been the best mower I've ever had.
You must like junk
@garybarton8091 Sounds like you got a lemon. It happens from time to time, I suppose. However, mine has been great for 3+ years now.
I’ve owned Toro for years and have loved them. More competition has helped with their pricing dominance. Having switched to Bad Boy I would be hard pressed to go back. The only compare would be that it is so much easier to source parts for Toro which is to be expected. Bad Boy is a winning brand and the quality is over the top.
After 20 years of keeping a MTD mower alive I feel I have graduated from a torture course in keeping a not so great design in service. Of course I look at a Bad Boy with a certain twinkle in my trained eye.
Haha. They’re a heck of a mower.
Well Done! Bad Boy for Life!
Congratulations, you did it. Keep it up.
@@plastichair856 absolutely thanks!
Great job Matt Tell Drew to keep selling them Bad Boyz 🤣🤣🤣
@@henrythompson5624 we need you coming in this spring!!!
I was going to buy a Maverick HD- but the only carbureted engine they offered was the Kawa 23HP, and 23 horses isn't enough for me on a 60" mower. (Don't wanna deal with the headaches and expenses of repairing EFI after the TWO year warranty ends). So instead I bought the Toro Titan Max...with the 26HP Kohler...it was cheaper, and it's an awesome mower. Shame..I would've liked to have bought the Bad Boy (Well, I think that orange color is horrible anyway)...and the Toro has a FOUR year warranty. (BB only offers the 26 Kohler in the EFI version..no thanks!)
You have to sell to young people. All the old people know what the best stuff is because they've learned from their mistakes and they only buy the best stuff they can afford regardless. Young people's decisions are made on flash and catchy names. Toro isn't a catchy name and deep red isn't a flashy color. People are like fish - you mostly catch young, little fish with flashy lures and seldom catch the big ones that are old. Look at the guy in this video; he's wearing a bright orange shirt to prove my point.
What does it actually mean to be a serviceable transmission like what does that actually really truly mean? And why is it worth so much more money
@@DavidA20200 sealed is when it doesn’t have a transmission filter, servicable is when it has a transmission filter and a port on the top to put fresh transmission fluid in it. The sealed units have the same transmission oil in it from beginning of life till end. Serviceable transmissions last longer.
@@howeequipment my 2017 Timecutter SS5000 left transmission is having issues after it warms up for about 40 mins, it won’t engage anymore on that side. I guess I’ll step up to a commercial model so that way it’s serviceable plus it’ll be nice to get all those extra benefits and creature comforts
Because you can service the rear end transaxles on yer mower meaning you can change the rear end oil and filters on each side of the rear axles which means the rear end on yer mower will last just as long as yer motor if you keep the oil changed on it also. How you can tell if the mower yer fixin to buy has a serviceable rear transaxle is if you look under the rear end it will have a filter on each side of the 2 axles
Kool & congrats
@@rellmonger7935 thank you!
Good, Thx
Can you do a video on how to replace the hydro fluid in a 2024 ZT elite with the zt 3100 transmissions? Now that they have removed the expansion tanks it is hard to tell if you are over filling them. Also are you able to add expansion tanks to these models? Thanks for your help.
@@AllenNelson-c8w we can do that, and I believe so
@@howeequipment Thanks. Looking forward to your video on this.
Asthetics aside, have they improved their quality of cut? I've demoed their lines over the years and they have never been on the level of scag, exmark/toro, ferris, etc cut IMO.
The r series cut as good as scag and a hell of a lot better than ferris. Can't speak for Toro. Nobody runs em in my area
@@T_81535 Scag and Ferris decks are pretty similar. Edge to Scag in wet.
@@lawnmowerman25I'd give it more than an edge. Scag will out cut ferris any day of the week and twice on Sunday. So will the bad boy r series mowers. Ferris aint nothin to get excited about when it comes to cut quality.
@@T_81535 I disagree but to each their own. I have both for what it's worth.
I bought a rouge 54 deck that keeps having deck belt issues. They need to update the deck baffles so that it will cut like a toro, scag, hustler. I only have 20 hrs on machine. Wondering if I am the only one having this issue…
Something is wrong with your unit. All my bad boys cut nice.
We had belt problems tension to tight & bad belt on drive belt
@@rogerforeshee7931that sounds like more like operator error to me.
Does Bad Boy make a rear discharge deck? If so i'm buying one...
@@DeluxeR71 they do. Rogue series. We have a 61” in stock
@@howeequipment Thanks! I'm checking it out...
bad boy an its sister company spartan continue to come out with new features in the mower industry.
Toro is crap