Cool challenge! The whole premise reads like a cyrodiilian folk tale lol A scrappy beggar joins the fighters guild and rises thru the ranks with nothing but his fists (and copious amounts of moon sugar)
You’re awesome bro, thank you for doing my suggestion. Your videos always cheer me up at work or just listening while relaxing. One of my top 3 UA-camrs for sure
@@JakeVYA You're right, it would be interesting if you can trigger the initiation murder via a follower before Lucien contacts you. Can you take a follower with you into the whodunit mansion? I don't remember. Maybe you can aggro one of them without the others noticing and then the others will come to your help. Interesting to try for sure.
I really appreciate the support! Yeah I love doing both! It’s unfortunate that I’ve run out of oblivion story lines to cover, but the challenge playthroughs are like a revival into the game!
Since you liked my last suggestion, here's another one: *Beating the Arena questline as Grognak the Barbarian* Weapons: Only two-handed weapons Armour: Light armour to keep with the aesthetic of the class icon and comic cover (plus barbarians are pretty tanky without armour, especially in other fantasy games) Magic: None, though healing spells can be optional
That’s really cool actually! I like that idea of blending some worlds together! I also like the idea of going in there as maybe level 10 or something like that, just for some balance!
Hey I would love to you do a hardcore oblivion character (max difficulty with one life) any build is your preference, but I would love to see this! it can be episode by episode or one long video your call :)
@ and imagine your build too each encounter might be different, might have to sneak past one fight and brute force another… you could make it that you can’t use fast travel or only use quest rewards as upgrades or no healing spells allowed… it would be so good to watch!
Its so nice to find someone else who aictually plays this game lol. I have a challenge :max dificult with only the default destruction spell. :beat the main questline while getting ALL aid for bruma.
this is insane, dont do it! the poison effect is scripted and there is no way to stop it. you will lose like 10hp a second. if there was a conceivable way to do this as a challenge, you would have to not do it from the begining of the game. like, half the video would be making a character properly suited for the challenge (level 100 max HP gear, someone said alchemy) and then do something like, eat the poison apple before you go into the great oblivion gate... but i warn you, that save file will be lost lol
When you familiarize yourself with Morrowind, here's two ideas: Beating Main Quest and House Telvanni as Tarhiel or Beating Main Quest, Thieves Guild and Morag Tong as Juib. Tarheil would be easier as his starting class as Enchater gives better access to cheaper spells and magic item chance. Money in Morrowind is EXTREAMLY important for enchanting!
Welp another nice youtuber staring elderscroll challenges, I cant wait to watch it all ! Im looking forward to your content. As a notice, do what you enjoy. Love your content !
Ive got two ideas. 1 You go thieves guild but you have to rp as a murderous lunatic that has to kill someone on each mission. Preferably someone attached to the quest you're doing, like the person being stolen from or someone in their household. 2 Getting Gray Cowl and never taking it off until you complete the DB questline.
I would love to to see some kind of illusion magic restriction run. Just because it's always seemed like something you take as a secondary but never your main magic school
Idea: Max Difficulty run Idea 2: beat the game with mysticism only Idea 3: make your companions beat the game (or any guild quests) while you are the healer.
if you ever do another challenge where you need to fight Hand-to-Hand, make sure you find plenty of torches. holding block and having a torch equipped will make you punch like 35% faster if not more
Hey man! Still loving your videos! I find them very impressive and also inspiring. Maybe it’s none of my business but I’m curious about your workflow?? How do you make all these videos?? Do you edit the videos?? Write a script?? I would just love some insight!!
Hey I really appreciate it! I record gameplay, write a script, record the audio, the piece everything together! I’ve gotten more efficient at it, but it used to take me a long time to make these videos!
Nice video Bard. How about could a barbarian beat the dark brotherhood questline with all bonuses but not sneaking (unless it is required for the quest)
Can you beat Oblivion using only the Staff of Worms? Finding the corpses to start doing your bidding might be the hardest part of that one Must be why necromancers always just dig 'em up
I stealth assassinated the 3 members in the cave completely unseen and when I got back I got kicked out of the guild for murdering them. Pretty BS if you ask me, it's only murder if you get seen (that law counts in real life too).
Could do the thief class, wearing the cowl and up to leather armor. Whether you try to follow the thieves guild rule of not killing on the job is dependent on how hard you want it to be, not sure if it's possible to beat the brotherhood as a pacifist. Although, that said, the gray fox has a sword, but thief class doesn't have blades I don't think.
Imagine calling the world famous fighter's guild to solve your problem and a homeless dude tweaking on hist sap just punches the shit out of your village
@@ABardsBallad either way I'm glued to the proceedings, man. Speaking as someone who played a few hundred hours of Oblivion AND Morrowind essentially role-playing as a non-plot important commoner, I love this kinda stuff.
@@versebuchanan512 I know. It's dichotomy of constructive criticism. Can't please them all :^] In all seriousness, I could tell you were being sincere from the start. I just made a bad joke that fell flat. No insult was intended.
Beggars take what they can get, and they typically have military backgrounds and some tragic backstory as to why they’re poor now. So why can’t your character use any weapons in this? They’re even gifted weapons via quest rewards and loot. There is zero excuse to use fists-only. It was lame…. Too restrictive for no reason at all.
You missed whole the point, beggars don’t use weapons though and they are poor when you speak with them, the whole idea was to roleplay as the ones we see in the game, and not some beggar that makes it big, hence not a beggar anymore, that’s why it’s a challenge lol otherwise it would’ve been the same as any other playthrough
Well it's hard to come up with an interesting hook for the Mage's Guild, because the Mage's Guild in Oblivion doesn't actually require anything beyond "You beat the combat challenges". Like I'd suggest "As an Illusionist" but since a lot of the quests are "Kill this target" it kind of doesn't work. Similarly you can't have the fun of "As a Necromancer" since well, Necromancy outside of Mannimarco's staff isn't really a thing either. Though that would be an interesting narrative to joke around with, being a necromancer in the Mage's Guild. Though for the Mage's Guild... how about "as a Celebrity"? You are the Arena Grand Champion but you're retired. Instead the Adoring Fan does all the work for you while maybe you throw encouragement at him in the form of Alteration Spells and healing spells to buff him.
Heh, the Maglir hate people have is always funny to me because it's 180 from what I felt about him. Okay, so you're doing the Fighter's Guild. He admits he didn't go into the Undead Infested Cave and complains about the crappy equipment and crappy pay they get. And considering 100 gold pays outs (and how expensive things can get to buy), and that he was only provided with Iron Gear, the second worst gear in the game for Heavy (only Rusted Iron in the tutorial sewers is worse)? I totally understood him. If there was a ghost or something there (there was the first time I did it), he had absolutely ZERO way to successfully complete the contract at all and he couldnt' afford to do things like buy spell scrolls on what the Fighter's Guild was paying. So it felt entirely justified. He then helped me out on the next mission against enemies he could (theoretically) take on. Bandits, who were better equipped than him (because Oblivion scaling of course)... so again, understandable why he'd be shy about running off alone into it. And then when he joins the Blackwood company? They pay better as he points out. They also gave him Blackwood Gear which is equivalent to Steel, so it was a step up in the gear he was provided (and thus able to do his job). Like... yeah. I have no malice towards him. The Fighter's Guild in Oblivion is kind of clown shoes in that way and if there wasn't the twist about the Blackwood Company drugging people? They're just better. For all he'd have known, he got a better paying job, that provided him with better gear to survive the job, and he was doing that job for them perfectly fine. While the Fighter's Guild did NOT give him adequate pay or gear for the jobs he was expected to go on, or even support to help him overcome the fact that he did not have the adequate means. Just different PoV. I know I"m pretty alone in seeing that in that quest. Everyone (even the UESP) just calls him a coward and a liar. But I never got that out of him.
@@hitomisalazar4073 Dude Maglir is evil, he literally went a joined an organisation that murderd a whole community for essentially no gain. For what? Better gear….
@@cianmcinerney7142 No one actually knows that's what they're doing in the Blackwood Company, as pointed out. You have to investigate the area afterwards to find out because you in character, when you do it, didn't know what you were doing. So for all he knows he's in a Merc Outfit telling him to go kill Goblin Raiders or something. He's not evil. He legitimately talks in game about the dangers of the Fighter's Guild, the shit gear he has, the shit pay, and how he has a family to take care of and can't keep doing that. At least as I saw it. Like yeah, until the finale no one knows what the Blackwood Company is up to. All they know is they're an up and coming Merc Band that's doing better than the Fighter's Guild in Leyawiin (Who is to the last basically lazy drunks at the game start).
Here's a challenge- can you beat the Thieves Guild with the same equipment and skills a city guard?
Ayyyy that’s a great one actually! I needed one for the mages guild and was thinking of some sort of combat build!
And for the images guild you can have the same skills and equipment as the adoring fan .
obviously yes
you can beat thieves guild in full daedric armor
@@ryszakowy I mean using only weapons available to the city guards, and only using relevant skills that they have access to.
@@ABardsBallad how about mages guild as a commoner, or main quest as a mythic dawn agent?
Cool challenge! The whole premise reads like a cyrodiilian folk tale lol A scrappy beggar joins the fighters guild and rises thru the ranks with nothing but his fists (and copious amounts of moon sugar)
😂😂😂 i like the way you put it! Definitely an inspiring folk tale!
Speedballing her way to Champion of the Guild.
I love that hamster face 😁 It's like the cheeks are swollen from constant fistfights with other beggars and got punched a lot 😂
You’re awesome bro, thank you for doing my suggestion. Your videos always cheer me up at work or just listening while relaxing. One of my top 3 UA-camrs for sure
That's really awesome to hear, thank you so much the suggestion for last time and I really appreciate the support! :)
Yay for challenge runs!
Also, it’s great that we are still finding new stuff/moments in these older games!
They’re too much fun to make! And yes! It’s awesome to still get to play through these old games in new ways!
Holy hell- Er, I mean, he's beautiful. Certified model.
She is quite the elegant lady isn’t she! 😂
@ABardsBallad She! Oh! Coulda fooled me 👀
So nice to have new Oblivion videos to watch. I love your videos, I think you deserve a lot more love for what you do. Thank you good sir
I really appreciate the kind words! As long as you all watch and like the videos that’s what matters!!
we are gaming elder scrolls 4 gamer time with bards gaming ballad
Lots and lots of gaming going down 😤
I think the no killing in the dark brotherhood quest line would make an interesting challenge
Definitely going to do that one sooner than later!!
You could use the class of one of the chapel priests for the no killing run @@ABardsBallad
I'm guessing that excludes your quest targets? Otherwise it would be a very short challenge I'd wager
@@Huffman_Tree I imagine some of the quests at least can be completed by getting someone else to kill them for you like a follower or guard etc.
@@JakeVYA You're right, it would be interesting if you can trigger the initiation murder via a follower before Lucien contacts you. Can you take a follower with you into the whodunit mansion? I don't remember. Maybe you can aggro one of them without the others noticing and then the others will come to your help. Interesting to try for sure.
48:05 "all that was left was the Hist Tree" or, you know, "the rest was history"
I'll see myself out
I’ve found your channel recently and I love how you go through the stories of the questlines, but I am also living for these challenge runs. 😊
I really appreciate the support! Yeah I love doing both! It’s unfortunate that I’ve run out of oblivion story lines to cover, but the challenge playthroughs are like a revival into the game!
Can’t wait to watch this going to sleep
I hope you enjoy it! Was tons of fun to make!
@@ABardsBallad keep it up man! When skyblivion comes out that’s much more content for you!
Same
I thought I was the only one who watched oblivion and morrowind videos to go to sleep
Since you liked my last suggestion, here's another one:
*Beating the Arena questline as Grognak the Barbarian*
Weapons: Only two-handed weapons
Armour: Light armour to keep with the aesthetic of the class icon and comic cover (plus barbarians are pretty tanky without armour, especially in other fantasy games)
Magic: None, though healing spells can be optional
That’s really cool actually! I like that idea of blending some worlds together! I also like the idea of going in there as maybe level 10 or something like that, just for some balance!
This would be way too easy…. It’s not a “challenge” if it’s straight up easy.
Hey I would love to you do a hardcore oblivion character (max difficulty with one life) any build is your preference, but I would love to see this! it can be episode by episode or one long video your call :)
Awesome idea! I’ve been meaning to try out a one life playthrough! Could be a great one to go through!
@ and imagine your build too each encounter might be different, might have to sneak past one fight and brute force another… you could make it that you can’t use fast travel or only use quest rewards as upgrades or no healing spells allowed… it would be so good to watch!
Its so nice to find someone else who aictually plays this game lol. I have a challenge
:max dificult with only the default destruction spell.
:beat the main questline while getting ALL aid for bruma.
I appreciate it! :) and I like it!! 😂 Ive definitely been meaning to do something on max difficulty!
15:16 took me a while to realize that there’s a texture glitch that severed your hands from your arm lmaooo
😂 for real, it tripped me up while I was playing lol
Mages guild as a skooma addict
I definitely want to try one of these quests as a Skooma Addict 😂
I love npc classes in games like this, especially for the stat block for rp/challenge runs like this
Me too! It’s really cool to have a template for player builds to go off of!
The most impossible challenge…. Can you beat oblivion after eating a poisoned apple
😂😂😂 there could be some very creative ways to handle that one 🤔
Idk man that health drains fast 🤣
This one sounds amazing! Please consider it :)
Gonna need high alchemy to make the heal over time version of the health potion to actively counter the poison
this is insane, dont do it!
the poison effect is scripted and there is no way to stop it. you will lose like 10hp a second.
if there was a conceivable way to do this as a challenge, you would have to not do it from the begining of the game.
like, half the video would be making a character properly suited for the challenge (level 100 max HP gear, someone said alchemy) and then do something like, eat the poison apple before you go into the great oblivion gate... but i warn you, that save file will be lost lol
Love your videos please keep them coming
I really appreciate the support! Plenty more to come! :)
Yet another instant click. Keep the good work up love the videos
I appreciate it! Hope you enjoyed this one!
Love these new challenge videos!!
Glad you like them! They’re tons of fun to do and make! :)
Yes please keep doing these
When you familiarize yourself with Morrowind, here's two ideas: Beating Main Quest and House Telvanni as Tarhiel or Beating Main Quest, Thieves Guild and Morag Tong as Juib. Tarheil would be easier as his starting class as Enchater gives better access to cheaper spells and magic item chance. Money in Morrowind is EXTREAMLY important for enchanting!
Ahhh very interesting! I’d love to do this series for Morrowind one day as well! Both great ideas!
amazing character design as always LOLL
😂😂😂 Mucus thanks you dearly!
Blue hair ✅
Brain rot ✅
Everything checks out
I really enjoyed this challenge run! Excited for more!
Welp another nice youtuber staring elderscroll challenges, I cant wait to watch it all ! Im looking forward to your content. As a notice, do what you enjoy. Love your content !
Great video. Only note i can offer, turn up the in game brightness. Oblivion is a really dark game.
Appreciate it! Yeah those caves can be awful for lighting
Ive got two ideas. 1 You go thieves guild but you have to rp as a murderous lunatic that has to kill someone on each mission. Preferably someone attached to the quest you're doing, like the person being stolen from or someone in their household. 2 Getting Gray Cowl and never taking it off until you complete the DB questline.
I thought you would have a harder time with that second quest with the merchant. You handled it well
Cheers!! I thought that one was going to be a lot of trouble too tbh 😂 thankfully it was all done in the city!
I would love to to see some kind of illusion magic restriction run. Just because it's always seemed like something you take as a secondary but never your main magic school
i love these videos, they remind me a lot of jbn. it'd be cool if there were captions though, even software generated ones
I appreciate it! I got the inspiration from him! Does UA-cam not offer captions?
It seems to for me 😊
@@ABardsBallad they do, but software generated captions are wayy more accurate and reliable
13:03 i love how the wraith was jut like "ooh what's in here?"
-Begger's shirt
-Sack cloth pants
-Sandals
-Amulet of kings
Seems legit.
Can you beat the mage's guild quest using only gold armor and weapons from the arena?
Ahh very interesting concept! I like it!!
Idea: Max Difficulty run
Idea 2: beat the game with mysticism only
Idea 3: make your companions beat the game (or any guild quests) while you are the healer.
All excellent ideas! I definitely want to do something difficulty wise, max difficulty run could be an awesome idea!
@@ABardsBallad btw you can only have one companion
Me when i fell into blue room paint head first, got stung by 17 bees in my face and gamble all of my belongings on The Arena.
your character looks so “mawmaw” coded I cant describe it
😂😂😂 she’s definitely a very elegant woman in her own way!!
if you ever do another challenge where you need to fight Hand-to-Hand, make sure you find plenty of torches.
holding block and having a torch equipped will make you punch like 35% faster if not more
Foul Fagus easily solo's Dagon, but the Blades are too scared to ask him for help...
I bet all of the beggars could take on the Daedric forces 😂
Hey man! Still loving your videos! I find them very impressive and also inspiring. Maybe it’s none of my business but I’m curious about your workflow?? How do you make all these videos?? Do you edit the videos?? Write a script?? I would just love some insight!!
Hey I really appreciate it! I record gameplay, write a script, record the audio, the piece everything together! I’ve gotten more efficient at it, but it used to take me a long time to make these videos!
Thank you! I would love to try something similar myself but man it’s very daunting. But I guess it just takes going for it and lots of practice.
Mucus gotta be my favourite oblivion npc ❤
😂 Mucus deserves to live in IMO, definitely a beautiful creation!
Not really an npc if bard controls him but ok lol
I love your videos so much you have no idea
Here's a juicy one- Can you beat knights of the nine as a deadra woshipper( Battlemage build without the crusader relics)
Ahhh I like it! A little irony in doing it is always nice 👌
Nice video Bard.
How about could a barbarian beat the dark brotherhood questline with all bonuses but not sneaking (unless it is required for the quest)
Very nice suggestion! Could definitely be an awesome one!
Love your videos! As a challenge, can you beat The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion while only using items and equipment with a B in their name?
I have an idea for a challenge. How about assassin vs mages guild?
That’s a great idea! I definitely need to figure something out with a mages guild run through!
Oblivion youtubers make a normal looking human challenge (no but I enjoyed the video)
😂 that’s an impossible one!! I appreciate the support :)
Challenge:
How fast can your crippled Khajiit touch grass?
commenting for algorithm. good vid
I really appreciate it! :)
Now i feel like playing some oblivion
Thank you kind sir!
Thank YOU!!
@@ABardsBallad Blessings of the shadow upon ye
Can you beat Oblivion using only the Staff of Worms?
Finding the corpses to start doing your bidding might be the hardest part of that one
Must be why necromancers always just dig 'em up
Healer seems cool. I haven't seen that yet
I stealth assassinated the 3 members in the cave completely unseen and when I got back I got kicked out of the guild for murdering them. Pretty BS if you ask me, it's only murder if you get seen (that law counts in real life too).
The ones for the desolate mine?! 😂 i didn’t even know that they could be killed tbh
It could be cool to see you play through the mages guild as raminus polus. Is he really the Arch Mage everyone says he is?
I like it! Did you mean Hannibal traven build or Raminus Polus the helper type of build?
@ABardsBallad i meant Hannibal traven.
For a shorter run, how about the beggar gers merunes razor? I remember that being a relatively challenging dungeon
Here's a challenge run! do the dark brotherhood questline as a pacifist!
That’s definitely one of the next ones I’m going to do!
Beating mages guild as necromancer
Definitely one I’d like to try!!
Here's a challenge, make a character that doesn't look like a daedric abomination 😂
😂😂😂 I don’t think I can take that challenge unfortunately 😂
@@ABardsBallad well damn 😂
Can you beat Knights of the Nine as a level 1 Vampire
I cant remember if KOTN has a level requirement 😭
Very interesting concept actually! I needed something for vampirism and knights of the nine!!
My thinking is that keeping fame and infamy balanced would make for an interesting run!
Why does BrainRot decrease Strength instead of Intelligence?
😂😂😂 very good question
Effects the part of the brain that governs movement or something maybe? Or muscle contractions?
Can you beat the main quest using only the goblin staff you can get in the tutorial run.
😂😂😂 that is honestly such an epic one I love it
Can you beat the dark brotherhood as the gray fox?
Ahhh a very interesting one!! 🤔
Could do the thief class, wearing the cowl and up to leather armor. Whether you try to follow the thieves guild rule of not killing on the job is dependent on how hard you want it to be, not sure if it's possible to beat the brotherhood as a pacifist.
Although, that said, the gray fox has a sword, but thief class doesn't have blades I don't think.
Alchemy, Mercantile, and Speechcraft? Why aren't you rich with all the Alchemy ingredients in these caves?
awesome bud
Appreciate that my friend! Tons of fun making these!
@@ABardsBallad yes and I could see a story with this one.
I thought he was a Khajiit 😅
😂😂😂 she does have some cat like features to her
Imagine calling the world famous fighter's guild to solve your problem and a homeless dude tweaking on hist sap just punches the shit out of your village
😂😂😂 the best visual ever, poor Biene Amelion, all she saw was Mucus’ face then lights out forever
Now the beggars have no more excuses to be beggars if they can get so far in the fighters guild they can get any job hahaha
Sometimes I feel like your playthrough limitations are too permissive, and sometimes I feel like you're being too hard on yourself.
Best of both worlds I suppose 😂
@@ABardsBallad either way I'm glued to the proceedings, man. Speaking as someone who played a few hundred hours of Oblivion AND Morrowind essentially role-playing as a non-plot important commoner, I love this kinda stuff.
Ah yes, the dichotomy of challenge runners. Can't please them all
@@Catman_CM just so you are aware, I'm not shit talking Bard. I'm a fan.
@@versebuchanan512 I know. It's dichotomy of constructive criticism. Can't please them all :^]
In all seriousness, I could tell you were being sincere from the start. I just made a bad joke that fell flat. No insult was intended.
A coin for an old beggar?
Blessings of Arkay upon ye!
@@ABardsBallad Thank you, kind sir!
Beggars take what they can get, and they typically have military backgrounds and some tragic backstory as to why they’re poor now.
So why can’t your character use any weapons in this? They’re even gifted weapons via quest rewards and loot. There is zero excuse to use fists-only.
It was lame…. Too restrictive for no reason at all.
You missed whole the point, beggars don’t use weapons though and they are poor when you speak with them, the whole idea was to roleplay as the ones we see in the game, and not some beggar that makes it big, hence not a beggar anymore, that’s why it’s a challenge lol otherwise it would’ve been the same as any other playthrough
I now your young bro but do you have to make most of your characters look so asinine?
That’s the best part about this game of course I have to 😂
Generic comment for the algorithm.
1 view after 50 seconds… bro fell off.
Can’t fall off if I was never on 😤
Well it's hard to come up with an interesting hook for the Mage's Guild, because the Mage's Guild in Oblivion doesn't actually require anything beyond "You beat the combat challenges". Like I'd suggest "As an Illusionist" but since a lot of the quests are "Kill this target" it kind of doesn't work. Similarly you can't have the fun of "As a Necromancer" since well, Necromancy outside of Mannimarco's staff isn't really a thing either. Though that would be an interesting narrative to joke around with, being a necromancer in the Mage's Guild.
Though for the Mage's Guild... how about "as a Celebrity"? You are the Arena Grand Champion but you're retired. Instead the Adoring Fan does all the work for you while maybe you throw encouragement at him in the form of Alteration Spells and healing spells to buff him.
Wait why am I i not subbed already? Weird
😂😂😂 no problem! Glad to have you aboard 🫡
@@ABardsBallad well I've watched and enjoyed so many of em now I just thought I was 🤷
Heh, the Maglir hate people have is always funny to me because it's 180 from what I felt about him.
Okay, so you're doing the Fighter's Guild. He admits he didn't go into the Undead Infested Cave and complains about the crappy equipment and crappy pay they get. And considering 100 gold pays outs (and how expensive things can get to buy), and that he was only provided with Iron Gear, the second worst gear in the game for Heavy (only Rusted Iron in the tutorial sewers is worse)? I totally understood him. If there was a ghost or something there (there was the first time I did it), he had absolutely ZERO way to successfully complete the contract at all and he couldnt' afford to do things like buy spell scrolls on what the Fighter's Guild was paying. So it felt entirely justified. He then helped me out on the next mission against enemies he could (theoretically) take on. Bandits, who were better equipped than him (because Oblivion scaling of course)... so again, understandable why he'd be shy about running off alone into it. And then when he joins the Blackwood company? They pay better as he points out. They also gave him Blackwood Gear which is equivalent to Steel, so it was a step up in the gear he was provided (and thus able to do his job).
Like... yeah. I have no malice towards him. The Fighter's Guild in Oblivion is kind of clown shoes in that way and if there wasn't the twist about the Blackwood Company drugging people? They're just better. For all he'd have known, he got a better paying job, that provided him with better gear to survive the job, and he was doing that job for them perfectly fine. While the Fighter's Guild did NOT give him adequate pay or gear for the jobs he was expected to go on, or even support to help him overcome the fact that he did not have the adequate means.
Just different PoV. I know I"m pretty alone in seeing that in that quest. Everyone (even the UESP) just calls him a coward and a liar. But I never got that out of him.
@@hitomisalazar4073 Dude Maglir is evil, he literally went a joined an organisation that murderd a whole community for essentially no gain. For what? Better gear….
@@cianmcinerney7142 No one actually knows that's what they're doing in the Blackwood Company, as pointed out. You have to investigate the area afterwards to find out because you in character, when you do it, didn't know what you were doing.
So for all he knows he's in a Merc Outfit telling him to go kill Goblin Raiders or something.
He's not evil. He legitimately talks in game about the dangers of the Fighter's Guild, the shit gear he has, the shit pay, and how he has a family to take care of and can't keep doing that.
At least as I saw it.
Like yeah, until the finale no one knows what the Blackwood Company is up to. All they know is they're an up and coming Merc Band that's doing better than the Fighter's Guild in Leyawiin (Who is to the last basically lazy drunks at the game start).