I just watched he's moive and he feels more like a modern Doctor than any of the older ones I have only seen like 2 and half serals tho the deleks and the 3rd Doctors first one wnd half the second one 7 episodes way to much so I didn't finish it
When it actually dawns on New Who showrunners they have the means to do their own Five Doctors story, if they can't get Ecclestone back, McGann could definitely be used in his stead. The 8th Doctor walks that line between Classic and New that none of the others before really can.
Moffat did a story with 3 doctors and he wanted eccelston he wouldn't come back so you'd think he'd just get macgan but nope he makes a brand new doctor for the time war for no reason atall
Paul McGann's my favourite actor to play the role, by far. He was basically the mind-bleep Doctor. Going into a story, expect that reality itself will be turned on its head, and that not everyone will leave as sane as they went in. Forget twist endings -- McGann's were twist stories. (Also, Charley is my favourite companion of all time -- TV stories included -- with Evelyn a very close second. From Storm Warning to The Girl Who Never Was, her stories were nearly all gems. And then there's her arc with [SPOILER]. Great stuff.)
Kitty Kittykitty the abstract nature of 8’s early stuff is some of my favourite Who ever. I love how in over their head and experimental Big Finish were/are
I was never more angry than when I found out they were NOT letting McGann's incarnation be the one who fought in the Time War. This was a huge mis-step on the showrunners part.
I agree. The 8th would have been the Doctor doing his thing but over the course of the war he sees horrors and commits horrors himself to try and make things right. We could have also have a series of his own AS the Time War. We follow him over the course of the war. By having the war doctor exist we lose a full era of Doctor sho
Eighth Doctor is the best doctor we never really got - I strongly believe that if he had 3 seasons of Davies’ stories; he’d probably be the most iconic doctor - if not, defo up there with Baker and Tennant in terms of iconography.
i will say, having him be the doctor that was the Time War doctor works so much better thematically, as he is the nostalgic romantic type of doctor, and having him fight in the time war really sets up the "loss of innocence" that later doctors had, as he is portrayed as a mix of classic/new type doctors
Seasons of Fear - BUT NIMON The Conscript - it’s what I expected Phobos- 🤷♂️ Dark Eyes- TECHOBABBLE TIME I honestly can’t remember much about this set The TV movie - BLASPHEME !!!!
The Worst: Seasons of Fear [3:59] The Conscript (from: The Eighth Doctor - Time War (vol. 1)) [5:16] Phobos [7:52] X and the Daleks (from: Dark Eyes) [8:59] Doctor Who (TV movie) [10:36] The Best: Scherzo [11:55] The Chimes of Midnight [12:49] The Flood [13:39] The Silver Turk [14:36] Terror Firma [15:48]
McGann is definitely the paving stone for Modern Who. Modern intro, modern companion, modern romantics, he’s basically the cookie-cutter New-Who Doctor with so much more included
sadly that seems like the majority experience with him, so many fans being told about and acknowledging how great he is in his audio dramas but only a minorty few that have actually listened to them
8 is my favorite Doctor except for Capaldi. Paul McGann played the part perfectly even in the TV movie and he is so underrated. I would love to have at least one season of the TV show with him. Charley is one of my favorite companions ever. The Chimes of Midnight is my favorite Big Finish audio of all time and I actually really like Seasons of Fear.
This was a very well done video, I adore the tongue and cheek humor you brought to it and I admit I giggled/fangirled a bit when you did the whole talk about convential attractiveness and how damn pretty McGann is. Thank you.
Lucie bleedin' Miller was my childhood. (Which is crazy to think, but can you believe the Eighth Doctor Adventures line is around 14 years old?) It breaks my heart for you to dunk on her like this. Admittedly, when I go back to listen to those audios, they're more camp than I remember and nothing compared to Charley's run. But there are some absolutely phenomenal standouts, including the first time an audio drama made my cry uncontrollably - Lucie Miller/To The Death, her two-part final story, which is as heartbreaking as it sounds. Her stories can reach some astounding narrative heights, and it's a pity that people who don't like her very much can't really experience them.
Seasons of Fear is one of my favorite audios so I laughed out loud when the worst list started! Edit: just realised you used my Silver Turk drawings for that segment. nice.
I can do cheesy and pantomime when a story advertises up front that that is it's intention, but this one didn't land for me. Edit: all of your 8 stuff is my favourite. The old Chimes illustration is fantastic.
The Lucy Millar series has some great stories, like blood of the daleks, human resources, to the death, the Christmas story where Lucy almost dies and finds out that the doctor has been lying to her to the point where she leaves, the story with the monk and the ice warriors, where the actions of the doctor are questioned, etc.
I'm still working through the Eighth Doctor myself. Getting through this Doctor is a process. It really is because there are so many stages of his life.
Eight is definitely one of my favorite doctors, both because of how terrific Paul Mcgann is and how many great stories he's in across different mediums.
Currently doing a listen of 8s run with Charlie. He quickly became my favorite doctor after Chimes of midnight and Seasons of Fear actually. The villains in seasons were silly and camp, but the acting from Mcgann in that one really pulled me along. My favorites atm are Scherzo and A Natural History of Fear. I can't believe two 9/10 stories were released almost back to back, with the absolute wet fart that was creed of the kromon in between.
Thank god for BF putting the main range on Spotify. I always had a soft sport for 8 even before I heard the audio dramas, I quite liked some aspects of the TV movie (like the tardis design). If they didn't put them on there I would never have discovered all the awesome and inspirational stories 8 had.
The repeating Doctor categories seem to be... Grumpy old man (Hartnell, C.Baker, Tennant version 2) Childish clown favours bow tie (Troughton, McCoy, Smith) Hard serious man favours black and white Victorian style outfits (Pertwee, McGann, Capaldi) Toothy grinning madman (T.Baker, Eccleston, Whittaker) Bland handsome nice guy with a neat suit (Davison, Tennant version 1) Notice how each incarnation is like a rebellion in opposition to an aspect of the previous one. And after the first "rebirth" then each five lifetimes is like one standard lifetime from child to old man, with a lot of changes along the way.
I'm trying to get a bit more into the audio stories, starting with the Tenth Doctor adventures and Jenny: The Doctor's Daughter, but I'm also trying out the Eighth Doctor Adventures as they're available on Spotify, I can't say much on them yet as I've not heard too much but what I've heard of Blood of the Daleks it feels like quite a good story as the Daleks are particularly scheming. My favourite line so far is "The Doctor must be... He must stand trial" as it really sells the idea that the Daleks are trying to fake the whole idea of being allies but it's not in their nature to even pretend to have a diverse range of emotions. It's definitely a better representation of the Daleks than they have been getting on TV recently.
Spare Parts is an absolute Must-hear. Very fortunately, it is one of the Big Finish Doctor Who audios that has been put on Spotify for free. That was how I listened to most of McGann's stuff, but I'm going to buy the rest at some point because I love that man so much.
I've heard of that one, not got round to it yet, but I'll get there at some point, working through the Eighth Doctor Adventures but it would seem much of that beyond series 1 isn't on there.
McGann became one of my faves due to Big Finish's Dark Eyes/Doom Coalition/Time War and I wish he and Capaldi(my other fave) got to team up. I like that Big Finish thoroughly tested his pacifism and Chibnall could take a page from that.
1:24 I agree with this categorization, except for the 9th doctor. He's not really a clown hobo. More like a war veteran clowning around to conceal his pain. His action oriented attitude is closer to the 3rd doctor but since he's not a dandy either, I think 9 is his own category.
Ziusudra He definitely is an actor who borrowed the least from other actors, but that “Ello!” Smile and working class battered leather approach to the role was inspired. He extends into the romantic, but I named the category with him in mind.
I know this video is 4 years old now, but I want to point out that the US also has a bunch of Big Finish stuff on Spotify as well. Really glad about that too, Big Finish is amazing!
It's interesting watching these again when I've listened to a bunch of these. I really didn't like Seasons of Fear but I thought Phobos was alright. I didn't love the Silver Turk as much as others seem to though.
Even if we didn't see the 8th Doctor more on screen outside of a bad movie and a excellent mini episode I'm just grateful we got Paul McGann as the Doctor he's a splendid actor one of the finest to be in the role and Big Finish made the 8th Doctor truly one of the finest Doctors.
i REALLY want them to give mcgann a tv series. i don't know how but they should definitely do it. they missed the chance to bring him back in the 50th by casting john hurt. they'd better write at least a special with the 8th doctor in it soon. like come on. hands down the best doctor. also, paul mcgann has an amazing voice i don't think anyone else would've done that well being relegated to audio only
I think Mcgann is the doctor in many ways. He could have just stoped with the movie but he came back and has done so much to shape the doctor to how own. Like he has Charlie, Lucy, the two comic companies and he’ll even Mary Sheri as a one time companion. Not to mention his acting on audio and the movie are great.
3:28 “Okay, most conventionally attractive Doctor ranking, let’s go!” Honestly chuckled at that. And tbh, I agree with the whole ranking. David Tennant’s definitely the most conventionally attractive Doctor with Paul McGann a very close second, Peter Capaldi’s too silver fox-y to not be third, Jodie Whittaker’s absolutely gorgeous so she deserves fourth, and if you ignore the outfit then you can see why Colin Baker is definitely fifth.
they really should have him on tv or crossover with the newest Doctor would be neat , now granted Im a guy from across the pond but # 8 was probably the best Doctor in my opinion as far as the look of the Tardis went and they could somehow visit him before the events of the timewar,which I think was epic by the way!And like you say hes still young they should utilise him that would be so cool or at least for us fans cause I dont speak for anybody else at this point but who is the best stuff on TV...
I love the Eighth Doctor for being a romantic doctor, but not in the lovey-dovey sense. I feel like he's more of a poet-like character rooted in the Romanticism movement of the late 1700s and early 1800s-- even his costume matches this! I want another doctor like this again.
You nailed this perfectly. He's a rather cold doctor with a romantic aesthetic. It's actually bizarre we haven't had another Victorian-themed Doctor in the new series, it used to be the default. Imagine if Whittaker had gone for that angle, that way it could be tried&tested and seem new at the same time!
Interesting choices. I actually really liked Series 1 & 4 of 8th Doctor Adventures but Phobos was definitely the weakest story of the bunch. I quite liked Seasons of Fear too, certainly more so than Invaders from Mars or Time of the Daleks. If you can't tell, I LOVE the 8th Doc and his Big Finish run. A personal favourite of mine is Time Works. It blends the Fairytale with the SciFi in a way they tried but never really managed with the Matt Smith run. Does Solitaire count also? I know McGann technically isn't in it, but...
Is Time Works the one with the clock people? And yeah, i'd count Solitaire. We need to. I'm aware i'm the outlier in not liking the Radio4 Miller run, apart from Human Resources I felt like putting them all on there together really, Phobos was just the scapegoat.
SamyulDavis That's right. I'm aware I have a bias towards that story as it was actually my very first (lent it from a friend). Don't worry about outlying opinions, I have plenty of them. People hate Minuet from Hell but I love it. I also sort of liked Chibnalls run on Torchwood xD. Also, Google just tried to autocorrect Chibnall to Chin Balls.
The Conscript actually isn't bad. I'd argue it is genius in that it's small scale keeps it from making the universe smaller. And it's a glimpse into rebellious Academy Doctor. This isn't BF's "Gallifrey". If you're hesitating on the box set because of that one story, my advice is go for it.
I wish the BBC would give McGann a series finally while he still looks young enough to pull it off. Maybe it would bring the series back from the abyss it's fallen into.
I AM a particular kind of Doctor Who fan. His (novels) time as the Doctor was when my fiction writing was the most prolific. The BBC novels were the only thing that got me through the Interregnum. That void of time when Doctor Who was off the screens...
My top 10: 1. Storm Warning 2. The Chimes of Midnight 3. Horror of Glam Rock 4. An Earthly Child 5. Neverland 6. Zagreus 7. Sisters of the Flame/Vengeance of Morbius 8. Blood of the Daleks 9. Night of the Doctor 10. Invaders from Mars!
I live how 8 despite appearing in a movie and minisode (like 3 hours total) he is longest Doctor since he started audios in 2001 and still going strong while other Doctors stories are somewhere in between their 3 year run and are like fanservice in 8 case there is no tenure to begin with so everything happening is not just a good story for those who miss said Doctor but ongoing Cannon episodes like 9 10 or others but with no limit also 8 Doctor is dark people say 10 story is about him slowly going insane but my god 8 whole story is him breaking again and again until he gives up and becomes warrior he goes from happy romantic hero to a broken spiteful man who travels not to see the universe but to find hope in it to cling to only to get it destroyed
Look up Secrets of the Castle, McGann narrates it, which pumps up my rating of it by 3 points at least. (the other 5 points coming from the fact that it's a medieval documentary)
Let me recommend UA-camr Poparena for that if you don’t follow him already. I’ve only read a handful, but that’s definitely his area of Who expertise. Fun videos too. (I like Lungbarrow though)
I watched the Doctor Who TV movie when it aired. It was on a Tuesday night on Fox in the US. That was still a time that Fox was willing to be experimental but they did have legit hit shows on air. But a Tuesday night during Mays sweeps was poor timing and there was no promotional support for this movie to speak of. If there had been some time travel in the story, it might have landed better.
McGann is the Doctor that entered the Time War and fought the Dalekes , that had the guts to say enough and battle , no more running , the first doctor that (and that is my own thoughts had 2 console interiors before Matt Smith had his 2 . The 1996 one was too posh and well build to be used in warfare and the time that the Doctor can reach to the old console , he might have lost his life , and so the dirty dingy interior that the War Doctor/9/10 had taken shape from the McGann era onward . A good man going to War does not need a push interior just the bear necesities and that interior of the War Doctor i like to belive came from his era . + The Tardis changing mid battle would be considered a hassle to the War Doctor, as the controls change with the enviroment as well and he used the Tardis as it was left from MgGanns era ) . Dont know if that is cannon in any way , but to me it makes best sense .
If I remember correctly, When I first saw his Doctor, I thought he looked like Beethoven, and I think that's why I gave him that nickname, I actually really love McGann's Doctor because of how mysterious he is, due to not getting a full series on screen and I honestly hope the rumors about the a TV Show is true and that Disney doesn't F***k it up, which most likely would happen anyway, BUT I DON'T CARE!
@@Kasterborous1963 That's completely fine if you don't like the ones on Spotify. I personally don't have a problem with the ones on Spotify because The Holy Terror is one of my favourite pieces of media/art out there. The stories on there definitely aren't for everyone, quite a few of them are Big Finish's early episodes, where they were still discovering their identity and writing style. That being said, I still appreciate free Big Finish on Spotify, even if they aren't all amazing. Maybe I'm biased, no, I definitely am biased, but I still had a great time and would recommend a few of the stories on Spotify, including the flawed ones. Sorry to go off on this big tangent, after all, you were just expressing yourself in a concise and succinct manner, and I responded in a very drawn-out and overblown fashion. And don't get me wrong, I value your opinion.
P.S. You were very respectful in presenting your opinion, and I think tat deserves to recognized. And, upon rereading my original post, it sounded extremely pretentious, and I'd like to apologize for that. I need to find a better way of phrasing my words :)
Well, I'm watching through the Charley Arc to get my way to Zagreus, and I knew the plotline of Seasons of Fear sounded familiar. And yeah.... Yeah.... Yeah, its real tacky.
@DAVIS RE BIG FINISH STORIES You're not fecking kidding. I've just checked on Spotify and there's ENDLESS and I mean infinite endless stories uploaded by many users. I'm still going to buy Big Finish. But wow. This literally left me with my jaw dropped and my mouth open in amazement. Thank you for the heads up. Because otherwise I'd have never thought of looking for them. The 8th Doctor is, ironically, the most mysterious and inaccessible Doctor. If the 7th was the one who kept his thoughts and plans to himself to win against his enemies then the 8th is open to people while keeping himself at a distance in an emotional way? He has this questioning quality to him where he coaxes people to reveal themselves to him. He's an explorer but I always get the feeling events come to him rather than him getting involved in them. Since the 5th and 7th Doctors are all aware of the Time War in different ways PERHAPS the 8th is the way he is because he knows deep down time is running out? One day he'll be given a choice and he'll never be the same again.
I need more context I want to learn more about eight but I cannot pull together your reference to make a full picture Too many loss ends for a newbie fan....
Doan Vu The Lucie Start with ‘Memory Lane’ or ‘Blood of the Daleks’. It’s not that tricky, as 8 has many ‘jumping on’ points and very accessible series.
McGann deserves a live action series so much. Frustrates me how the BBC keep screwing him over. Such a waste of a great Doctor.
Luckily big finish, Novels and comics exist then.
Yeah, just watched the TV movie and I forgot how fantastic he truly was
they could absolutely do an eighth doctor spin off series I'd love to see that
He deserves an animated adventure or something he was looking kinda old in power of the doctor
Aprently the only reason he didn't get a series when the moive came out was because the moive didn't do well in America it did in the uk tho
McGann is sort of a mix of a Modern Who Doctor and also A Classic Who Doctor.
And it's briliant.
The 8th Doctor is the final Classic Doctor, the War Doctor is the first Modern Doctor
@@funnyfunnyvalentine7991I would call them The wilderness doctors more than anything
Not one or the other but a third
@@plantainsame2049so in that case, Eighth is the first Wilderness Who Doctor, and War is the second/last Wilderness Who Doctor?
@@kurtissaventozone Yeah pretty much Technically also the late seven And the early nine and the umbound doctors as well
I just watched he's moive and he feels more like a modern Doctor than any of the older ones I have only seen like 2 and half serals tho the deleks and the 3rd Doctors first one wnd half the second one 7 episodes way to much so I didn't finish it
When it actually dawns on New Who showrunners they have the means to do their own Five Doctors story, if they can't get Ecclestone back, McGann could definitely be used in his stead. The 8th Doctor walks that line between Classic and New that none of the others before really can.
Moffat did a story with 3 doctors and he wanted eccelston he wouldn't come back so you'd think he'd just get macgan but nope he makes a brand new doctor for the time war for no reason atall
But the movie had the best console room ever
“I inherited a gothic castle!” - 8, teasing 7 in Collision Course
Agreed.
Please don’t shoot me: as far as wooden console rooms go I prefer season 14 😅
@@funni150 heresy!!! Burn him at the stake!!!!!!!! Just kidding have your own opinion.
I love it. It’s so great looking. I’ve always had love of Victorian design and that Tardis has character in spades. Absolutely love it.
Can't get enough of these vids, it's not often that people on youtube acknowledge the novels and audio stories.
Paul McGann's my favourite actor to play the role, by far. He was basically the mind-bleep Doctor. Going into a story, expect that reality itself will be turned on its head, and that not everyone will leave as sane as they went in. Forget twist endings -- McGann's were twist stories.
(Also, Charley is my favourite companion of all time -- TV stories included -- with Evelyn a very close second. From Storm Warning to The Girl Who Never Was, her stories were nearly all gems. And then there's her arc with [SPOILER]. Great stuff.)
Kitty Kittykitty the abstract nature of 8’s early stuff is some of my favourite Who ever. I love how in over their head and experimental Big Finish were/are
Yeah. They weren't at all afraid to be bold in their stories.
8 is definitely an underrated gem. I cannot wait to see the rest of this series man. These videos are absolutely wonderful :)
Finlay Foster thank you! 7th Doctor is out at the end of the week!
I was never more angry than when I found out they were NOT letting McGann's incarnation be the one who fought in the Time War. This was a huge mis-step on the showrunners part.
He still did though. He just didn't partake in any lasting genocide.
@@SamyulDavis still, it would’ve been cool to see McGann onscreen with Tennant and Smith
It’s cool to see him in night of the Doctor tho. Tom will always be my favorite but Mcgann is the man.
I agree. The 8th would have been the Doctor doing his thing but over the course of the war he sees horrors and commits horrors himself to try and make things right. We could have also have a series of his own AS the Time War. We follow him over the course of the war. By having the war doctor exist we lose a full era of Doctor sho
Atlest he did technically fight in the time war only until the very end
Eighth Doctor is the best doctor we never really got - I strongly believe that if he had 3 seasons of Davies’ stories; he’d probably be the most iconic doctor - if not, defo up there with Baker and Tennant in terms of iconography.
Honestly agreed, he’d be amazing on tv
i will say, having him be the doctor that was the Time War doctor works so much better thematically, as he is the nostalgic romantic type of doctor, and having him fight in the time war really sets up the "loss of innocence" that later doctors had, as he is portrayed as a mix of classic/new type doctors
Seasons of Fear - BUT NIMON
The Conscript - it’s what I expected
Phobos- 🤷♂️
Dark Eyes- TECHOBABBLE TIME I honestly can’t remember much about this set
The TV movie - BLASPHEME !!!!
Your hating on Seasons of Fear hurts my soul.
The Worst:
Seasons of Fear [3:59]
The Conscript (from: The Eighth Doctor - Time War (vol. 1)) [5:16]
Phobos [7:52]
X and the Daleks (from: Dark Eyes) [8:59]
Doctor Who (TV movie) [10:36]
The Best:
Scherzo [11:55]
The Chimes of Midnight [12:49]
The Flood [13:39]
The Silver Turk [14:36]
Terror Firma [15:48]
McGann is definitely the paving stone for Modern Who. Modern intro, modern companion, modern romantics, he’s basically the cookie-cutter New-Who Doctor with so much more included
Tom baker talking about Paul mcgann is great. "Brilliant in that film, I never saw that film"
sadly that seems like the majority experience with him, so many fans being told about and acknowledging how great he is in his audio dramas but only a minorty few that have actually listened to them
He’s like the Keanu Reeves of the Who-niverse
8 is my favorite Doctor except for Capaldi. Paul McGann played the part perfectly even in the TV movie and he is so underrated. I would love to have at least one season of the TV show with him. Charley is one of my favorite companions ever. The Chimes of Midnight is my favorite Big Finish audio of all time and I actually really like Seasons of Fear.
8th's the David Bowie of doctor who
Oddly enough Sting could have been the 8th Doctor.
This was a very well done video, I adore the tongue and cheek humor you brought to it and I admit I giggled/fangirled a bit when you did the whole talk about convential attractiveness and how damn pretty McGann is. Thank you.
chimes of midnight is just the best. a real christmas eve treat. plenty of plum pudding as well.
Didn't get the fuss over it myself. 🤷♂️
Lucie bleedin' Miller was my childhood. (Which is crazy to think, but can you believe the Eighth Doctor Adventures line is around 14 years old?) It breaks my heart for you to dunk on her like this.
Admittedly, when I go back to listen to those audios, they're more camp than I remember and nothing compared to Charley's run. But there are some absolutely phenomenal standouts, including the first time an audio drama made my cry uncontrollably - Lucie Miller/To The Death, her two-part final story, which is as heartbreaking as it sounds. Her stories can reach some astounding narrative heights, and it's a pity that people who don't like her very much can't really experience them.
Seasons of Fear is one of my favorite audios so I laughed out loud when the worst list started!
Edit: just realised you used my Silver Turk drawings for that segment. nice.
I can do cheesy and pantomime when a story advertises up front that that is it's intention, but this one didn't land for me.
Edit: all of your 8 stuff is my favourite. The old Chimes illustration is fantastic.
Christmas wouldn't be Christmas without Mrs Badaley's plumb puddings!
I like Human Resources
Luke Wilkinson it’s great! Almost made it onto here, but it’s the only story I like in the Lucie era.
8:41 (Cough!) 'Series 11!'
((Except arachnids in the UK, which manages to be both))
The Lucy Millar series has some great stories, like blood of the daleks, human resources, to the death, the Christmas story where Lucy almost dies and finds out that the doctor has been lying to her to the point where she leaves, the story with the monk and the ice warriors, where the actions of the doctor are questioned, etc.
I'm still working through the Eighth Doctor myself. Getting through this Doctor is a process. It really is because there are so many stages of his life.
Eight is definitely one of my favorite doctors, both because of how terrific Paul Mcgann is and how many great stories he's in across different mediums.
Mate thank you soooooo much for mentioning doctor who audios on spotify!!!! I am in doctor who heaven 😂👏👏👏👏👏👏👏
The Chimes of Midnight is one of my favourite doctor who stories
One of the most overhyped for me. 🤷♂️
Never got the big deal about Rob Shearman.
I'm gonna look into some of these :3 I dont have much experience with the 8th doctor and this makes me want to know more
Scherzo & Time War!
Currently doing a listen of 8s run with Charlie. He quickly became my favorite doctor after Chimes of midnight and Seasons of Fear actually. The villains in seasons were silly and camp, but the acting from Mcgann in that one really pulled me along. My favorites atm are Scherzo and A Natural History of Fear. I can't believe two 9/10 stories were released almost back to back, with the absolute wet fart that was creed of the kromon in between.
Neil's dad turns up in so many things. I always just know him as "that guy".
Oh it's that guy again!
Thank god for BF putting the main range on Spotify. I always had a soft sport for 8 even before I heard the audio dramas, I quite liked some aspects of the TV movie (like the tardis design). If they didn't put them on there I would never have discovered all the awesome and inspirational stories 8 had.
OH MY GOD I CAME HERE BECAUSE I HEARD SCHERZO A DAY AGO I LOVE IT, AND THEN YOU VALIDATE. NICE
The repeating Doctor categories seem to be...
Grumpy old man (Hartnell, C.Baker, Tennant version 2)
Childish clown favours bow tie (Troughton, McCoy, Smith)
Hard serious man favours black and white Victorian style outfits (Pertwee, McGann, Capaldi)
Toothy grinning madman (T.Baker, Eccleston, Whittaker)
Bland handsome nice guy with a neat suit (Davison, Tennant version 1)
Notice how each incarnation is like a rebellion in opposition to an aspect of the previous one. And after the first "rebirth" then each five lifetimes is like one standard lifetime from child to old man, with a lot of changes along the way.
ALoonwolf you missed John hurt I mean come on he links the revival to the original
Also, haven't heard anyone say that about Whittaker..
Clownish?
McCoy?
I disagree
He literally juggles and does magic tricks
@@SamyulDavis I meant as his defining character trait, his fun side is overlooked however clownish is a bit too far, personality side
seasons of fear is one of my favorite 8 stories ever, like just under chimes and scherzo imo.
I was listening to your reading of the comic thinking of how sad and beautiful the story was and than I got an Arby’s add
I hope that the next episode involving multiple doctors has the 8th doctor as a major part
I'm trying to get a bit more into the audio stories, starting with the Tenth Doctor adventures and Jenny: The Doctor's Daughter, but I'm also trying out the Eighth Doctor Adventures as they're available on Spotify, I can't say much on them yet as I've not heard too much but what I've heard of Blood of the Daleks it feels like quite a good story as the Daleks are particularly scheming. My favourite line so far is "The Doctor must be... He must stand trial" as it really sells the idea that the Daleks are trying to fake the whole idea of being allies but it's not in their nature to even pretend to have a diverse range of emotions. It's definitely a better representation of the Daleks than they have been getting on TV recently.
Spare Parts is an absolute Must-hear. Very fortunately, it is one of the Big Finish Doctor Who audios that has been put on Spotify for free. That was how I listened to most of McGann's stuff, but I'm going to buy the rest at some point because I love that man so much.
I've heard of that one, not got round to it yet, but I'll get there at some point, working through the Eighth Doctor Adventures but it would seem much of that beyond series 1 isn't on there.
McGann became one of my faves due to Big Finish's Dark Eyes/Doom Coalition/Time War and I wish he and Capaldi(my other fave) got to team up.
I like that Big Finish thoroughly tested his pacifism and Chibnall could take a page from that.
Just bought the flood from whsmith, looking forward to reading it
1:24 I agree with this categorization, except for the 9th doctor. He's not really a clown hobo. More like a war veteran clowning around to conceal his pain. His action oriented attitude is closer to the 3rd doctor but since he's not a dandy either, I think 9 is his own category.
Ziusudra He definitely is an actor who borrowed the least from other actors, but that “Ello!” Smile and working class battered leather approach to the role was inspired. He extends into the romantic, but I named the category with him in mind.
Paul McGanns run is his big finish audio run. I love it and his tv movie and the 50th special together make one of the best doctor's run.
I know this video is 4 years old now, but I want to point out that the US also has a bunch of Big Finish stuff on Spotify as well. Really glad about that too, Big Finish is amazing!
It's interesting watching these again when I've listened to a bunch of these. I really didn't like Seasons of Fear but I thought Phobos was alright. I didn't love the Silver Turk as much as others seem to though.
I heard the words 'the flood' and I was so happy because I bought the collection and loved it
8 is a classic, tragic byronic hero archetype and that's what I love him for
How dare you. Seasons of Fear is an absolute treasure of an episode.
Even if we didn't see the 8th Doctor more on screen outside of a bad movie and a excellent mini episode I'm just grateful we got Paul McGann as the Doctor he's a splendid actor one of the finest to be in the role and Big Finish made the 8th Doctor truly one of the finest Doctors.
2:30 Gah I managed to get choked up over a comic I haven’t read
i REALLY want them to give mcgann a tv series. i don't know how but they should definitely do it. they missed the chance to bring him back in the 50th by casting john hurt. they'd better write at least a special with the 8th doctor in it soon. like come on. hands down the best doctor. also, paul mcgann has an amazing voice i don't think anyone else would've done that well being relegated to audio only
The doctor knows talk no jutsu?!
Steven Dymond BIG TIME.
*Sees No Alien Bodies, Year of Superintelligent Tigers, or Camera Obscura*
Shame
I think Mcgann is the doctor in many ways. He could have just stoped with the movie but he came back and has done so much to shape the doctor to how own. Like he has Charlie, Lucy, the two comic companies and he’ll even Mary Sheri as a one time companion. Not to mention his acting on audio and the movie are great.
3:28 “Okay, most conventionally attractive Doctor ranking, let’s go!” Honestly chuckled at that.
And tbh, I agree with the whole ranking. David Tennant’s definitely the most conventionally attractive Doctor with Paul McGann a very close second, Peter Capaldi’s too silver fox-y to not be third, Jodie Whittaker’s absolutely gorgeous so she deserves fourth, and if you ignore the outfit then you can see why Colin Baker is definitely fifth.
OMFG THANK YOU, MY FAV DOCTOR FINALLY!
Ben Welsh hope it was satisfying! 7th Doctor vid is imminent.
Yes, Doctor with most interesting character development coming up!
they really should have him on tv or crossover with the newest Doctor would be neat , now granted Im a guy from across the pond but # 8 was probably the best Doctor in my opinion as far as the look of the Tardis went and they could somehow visit him before the events of the timewar,which I think was epic by the way!And like you say hes still young they should utilise him that would be so cool or at least for us fans cause I dont speak for anybody else at this point but who is the best stuff on TV...
"The 7th Doctor shot down in an ally- What the f***?! No... "
I finally found that quote :)
Agree with you wholheartedly on The Time War but the 8th Doctor/ Lucie Miller duo is one of the very best on audio and would be great on TV.
It is a bit ridiculous, but I love seasons of fear, and indeed the Nimon. I would put it in my top five, certainly
I actually really liked season of fear.
But totally agree with you about the conscript
You can watch more of the 8th Doctor's adventures in Hornblower: Mutiny
Where do you get your music for your videos? Its gorgeous
I love the Eighth Doctor for being a romantic doctor, but not in the lovey-dovey sense. I feel like he's more of a poet-like character rooted in the Romanticism movement of the late 1700s and early 1800s-- even his costume matches this! I want another doctor like this again.
You nailed this perfectly. He's a rather cold doctor with a romantic aesthetic. It's actually bizarre we haven't had another Victorian-themed Doctor in the new series, it used to be the default. Imagine if Whittaker had gone for that angle, that way it could be tried&tested and seem new at the same time!
I would have loved that to pieces-- I feel like the costuming has been a little stale recently!
Brb, photoshopping victorian gentleman garb onto Whittaker
Interesting choices. I actually really liked Series 1 & 4 of 8th Doctor Adventures but Phobos was definitely the weakest story of the bunch. I quite liked Seasons of Fear too, certainly more so than Invaders from Mars or Time of the Daleks. If you can't tell, I LOVE the 8th Doc and his Big Finish run.
A personal favourite of mine is Time Works. It blends the Fairytale with the SciFi in a way they tried but never really managed with the Matt Smith run. Does Solitaire count also? I know McGann technically isn't in it, but...
Is Time Works the one with the clock people? And yeah, i'd count Solitaire. We need to.
I'm aware i'm the outlier in not liking the Radio4 Miller run, apart from Human Resources I felt like putting them all on there together really, Phobos was just the scapegoat.
SamyulDavis That's right. I'm aware I have a bias towards that story as it was actually my very first (lent it from a friend).
Don't worry about outlying opinions, I have plenty of them. People hate Minuet from Hell but I love it. I also sort of liked Chibnalls run on Torchwood xD.
Also, Google just tried to autocorrect Chibnall to Chin Balls.
jakerockznoodles My video on Torchwood is just gushing. Adore it.
Chris Chin Balls 🤣🤣
The Conscript actually isn't bad. I'd argue it is genius in that it's small scale keeps it from making the universe smaller. And it's a glimpse into rebellious Academy Doctor. This isn't BF's "Gallifrey".
If you're hesitating on the box set because of that one story, my advice is go for it.
I enjoyed the TV movie personally, it's not the best but I dont consider it bad
I wish the BBC would give McGann a series finally while he still looks young enough to pull it off. Maybe it would bring the series back from the abyss it's fallen into.
I AM a particular kind of Doctor Who fan. His (novels) time as the Doctor was when my fiction writing was the most prolific. The BBC novels were the only thing that got me through the Interregnum. That void of time when Doctor Who was off the screens...
My top 10:
1. Storm Warning
2. The Chimes of Midnight
3. Horror of Glam Rock
4. An Earthly Child
5. Neverland
6. Zagreus
7. Sisters of the Flame/Vengeance of Morbius
8. Blood of the Daleks
9. Night of the Doctor
10. Invaders from Mars!
I live how 8 despite appearing in a movie and minisode (like 3 hours total) he is longest Doctor since he started audios in 2001 and still going strong while other Doctors stories are somewhere in between their 3 year run and are like fanservice in 8 case there is no tenure to begin with so everything happening is not just a good story for those who miss said Doctor but ongoing Cannon episodes like 9 10 or others but with no limit
also 8 Doctor is dark
people say 10 story is about him slowly going insane but my god 8 whole story is him breaking again and again until he gives up and becomes warrior he goes from happy romantic hero to a broken spiteful man who travels not to see the universe but to find hope in it to cling to only to get it destroyed
actually the longest continuing doctor is 7th tv run from 87-89, tv movie in 96 BEGAN big finish in 99 and is STILL going!
Look up Secrets of the Castle, McGann narrates it, which pumps up my rating of it by 3 points at least. (the other 5 points coming from the fact that it's a medieval documentary)
that episode 3 song was funny, as it was the 7th Doctor who tricked Davros into Destroying the planet of Skaro.
What are the best PDA/EDA books you can recommend ??? I'm trying to read more of them.
Let me recommend UA-camr Poparena for that if you don’t follow him already. I’ve only read a handful, but that’s definitely his area of Who expertise. Fun videos too. (I like Lungbarrow though)
I watched the Doctor Who TV movie when it aired. It was on a Tuesday night on Fox in the US. That was still a time that Fox was willing to be experimental but they did have legit hit shows on air. But a Tuesday night during Mays sweeps was poor timing and there was no promotional support for this movie to speak of. If there had been some time travel in the story, it might have landed better.
McGann is the Doctor that entered the Time War and fought the Dalekes , that had the guts to say enough and battle , no more running , the first doctor that (and that is my own thoughts had 2 console interiors before Matt Smith had his 2 . The 1996 one was too posh and well build to be used in warfare and the time that the Doctor can reach to the old console , he might have lost his life , and so the dirty dingy interior that the War Doctor/9/10 had taken shape from the McGann era onward . A good man going to War does not need a push interior just the bear necesities and that interior of the War Doctor i like to belive came from his era . + The Tardis changing mid battle would be considered a hassle to the War Doctor, as the controls change with the enviroment as well and he used the Tardis as it was left from MgGanns era ) . Dont know if that is cannon in any way , but to me it makes best sense .
I love these videos on big finish
8 and Charlie are my favorite, right ahead of 7 and Ace, 12 and Clare and Nardole
what is the back ground music?
Capaldi on your attractive doctor list? Give him the foxy grandpa hat.
Does anyone know what the song is in the beginning part of this video? The piano and violin
Where There‘s Tears There‘s Hope
I did a what if video where history was changed to have McGann as the Doctor during the events of Series 1
If I remember correctly, When I first saw his Doctor, I thought he looked like Beethoven, and I think that's why I gave him that nickname, I actually really love McGann's Doctor because of how mysterious he is, due to not getting a full series on screen and I honestly hope the rumors about the a TV Show is true and that Disney doesn't F***k it up, which most likely would happen anyway, BUT I DON'T CARE!
Thanks for the spotify tip
Is Spotify really free, if you live in the U.K.?
How do I get Big Finish story's?
As a trial could thay do 1 season with paul and see if it does well
FYI, most of the audio books can be found on Spotify for free in the US as well
There are thousands and less than 100 are free. That's not most.
Whoopsie daisy
@@benjaminhollister3124 Also, not many of the good ones are on Spotify in my opinion. In my opinion, most of the free ones suck.
@@Kasterborous1963 That's completely fine if you don't like the ones on Spotify. I personally don't have a problem with the ones on Spotify because The Holy Terror is one of my favourite pieces of media/art out there. The stories on there definitely aren't for everyone, quite a few of them are Big Finish's early episodes, where they were still discovering their identity and writing style. That being said, I still appreciate free Big Finish on Spotify, even if they aren't all amazing. Maybe I'm biased, no, I definitely am biased, but I still had a great time and would recommend a few of the stories on Spotify, including the flawed ones. Sorry to go off on this big tangent, after all, you were just expressing yourself in a concise and succinct manner, and I responded in a very drawn-out and overblown fashion. And don't get me wrong, I value your opinion.
P.S. You were very respectful in presenting your opinion, and I think tat deserves to recognized. And, upon rereading my original post, it sounded extremely pretentious, and I'd like to apologize for that. I need to find a better way of phrasing my words :)
12:07 what song is that?
The Eight Doctor Adventures is my favorite Doctor Who era
0:59, Docper-per.
(Just let it sit for awhile, it'll make sense eventually.)
I thought the half human reference were the interference of Faction Paradox.
They start to mess with the Doctor past .
The Doctor that people bearly mention:the 8th doctor
Personally love Seasons of Fear but it’s clearly not for everyone and I could tell from listening to it that that was the case
Hoopla also has a number of Big finish stories
Well, I'm watching through the Charley Arc to get my way to Zagreus, and I knew the plotline of Seasons of Fear sounded familiar.
And yeah.... Yeah.... Yeah, its real tacky.
Blackadder Back & Forth but taken seriously
@DAVIS RE BIG FINISH STORIES You're not fecking kidding. I've just checked on Spotify and there's ENDLESS and I mean infinite endless stories uploaded by many users.
I'm still going to buy Big Finish. But wow. This literally left me with my jaw dropped and my mouth open in amazement. Thank you for the heads up. Because otherwise I'd have never thought of looking for them.
The 8th Doctor is, ironically, the most mysterious and inaccessible Doctor.
If the 7th was the one who kept his thoughts and plans to himself to win against his enemies then the 8th is open to people while keeping himself at a distance in an emotional way?
He has this questioning quality to him where he coaxes people to reveal themselves to him.
He's an explorer but I always get the feeling events come to him rather than him getting involved in them.
Since the 5th and 7th Doctors are all aware of the Time War in different ways PERHAPS the 8th is the way he is because he knows deep down time is running out?
One day he'll be given a choice and he'll never be the same again.
I need more context
I want to learn more about eight but I cannot pull together your reference to make a full picture
Too many loss ends for a newbie fan....
Doan Vu The Lucie Start with ‘Memory Lane’ or ‘Blood of the Daleks’. It’s not that tricky, as 8 has many ‘jumping on’ points and very accessible series.
I think his bad review of seasons of fear is the exact same as my glowing review. I loved that story for all of the reasons he hated it
How is this guy almost 60 ! He will never age