Jamaica is not really independent, or IS IT?
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- Опубліковано 6 лип 2024
- Some people claim that Jamaica is not really independent because our Head of State and highest court are located in the UK. They also say that economically Jamaica is fully dependent on other countries, so they don't understand why Jamaica is called an independent country. However, Jamaica is an independent country and with this video I'd like to share the reasons why.
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🔴 CHAPTERS
00:00 Introduction
02:07 Independence and Outside Control
05:00 Independence and Head of State
08:48 Independence and International Trade
12:33 British Laws and Privy Council
16:28 Conclusion
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I now bestow on you the order of Jacranian, you are one of us while one of your own countrymen. Bless up.
Thanks for your hard work and commitment to this channel Irie!
Excellent work, thanks for bringing factual clarity to this matter.
A good video for all the people who constantly think China is "invading" and taking over Jamaica. I can't believe it takes someone not originally native to Jamaica to be this authentic and unbiased about Jamaica's policies and history.
But it's true China taking over Jamaica who u think build the highways
Well, I still think we should be wary of China. As Irena pointed out, influence and control are two different things. Although influence is a common modern fact of life, if a single influence grows too large then that in itself CAN become a potential lobby. Imagine, you get so used to cheap Chinese goods that you stop producing them. Then all they have to do is slowly begin to increase the prices.
Perhaps it is specifically because she is not a native why she is able to focus on the legal and literal definition of independence, without simultaneously being unable to NOT incorporate an assessment of the reasons why certain decisions of questionable benefit to the masses of the people or the nation have been made or not made.
@@JonathanSinclair-zx not just risk of price increase….evidenced by the recent previous years of extreme inflation, but just imagine a future pandemic or lockdown for any reason. This nation that is rich in agricultural potential would still be unable to even feed itself for any extended period of time.
@@JonathanSinclair-zx That's where good insight and governance comes in. The ability to take help from those who are willing and able to finance and carry out ambitious projects, while ensuring that the help is not abused by the benefactor country in question (in this case China) is something that Jamaica needs to exercise now more than ever. As a country that has been held back by lack of proper infrastructure and assistance from past colonial powers, Jamaica needs all the help it can get to achieve its personal sustainable goals; because Lord knows the US and the UK aren't gonna do it. But there comes a time when Jamaica also needs to step in with proper policies and start leveraging any earned successes that are in the best interest of locals and not outsiders who may realize it and capitalize on it first. One can't expect positive change without a little risk.
Thank you for a masterclass on independence. Misconceptions and myths have been dispelled 👏🏿 👏🏿
Nice one Irina, thank you so much for running with this one 👍. UK.
Another stellar video as usual . Keep up the good work.
People confuse Jamaica's legal Independence with it's economic independence. Jamaica like other legally independent countries are dependent on others to varying degrees. Even the US needs others and owes money to other countries.
Your video is great and on point.
As usual you never let me down.
Thank you Irina for the clarity. As always, you never cease to amaze me. A lot of people like to talk without evidence, so I hope that this video serves as an educational tool to all, especially those with different views about this topic
Great topic to clear up, Irina. Even for Jamaicans!!!😮🤔
Thanks for teaching some folks who don't know how to research or even read about they're history, they just like to tear it down instead for their own benefit.
Very interesting. Love your videos. Love your style of delivery. Thanks for making it your life's work to promote Jamaica. I feel very proud
Thank you Irina for clarification, amazing video. ❤
Irina, some of your points make sense; some of them don't. Let's take your point about the UK not forcing Jamaica to use the Privy Council, for example. The same point could be said for the Caymanians- the UK is not forcing the people of Cayman to remain a territory of the UK. Just as how Jamaica could change its constitution and remove the King of England as the Head of State (and by extension removing the Governor General position, who, by the way, plays an important role in laws being passed), or Jamaica could choose to use the Caribbean Court of Justice as its final appeals court, the people of Cayman can, if they want, become an independent country. The UK cannot force them to be an overseas territory. Obviously, Jamaica is not an overseas territory, and anyone who says Jamaica is an overseas territory is simply ignorant. Likewise, clearly, Jamaica gained independence from Great Britain, which allowed it to form its own government and make most of its decisions independently. However, it's not idiotic to say that Jamaica, not only on paper, shares some characteristics with a country/territory that is not fully independent. A fully independent country, for example, does not have its highest court- constitutionally speaking- in another country, if there isn't some kind of reliance on that country. If you didn't know, legal precedents from the Privy Council inform much of the judicial decisions made in Jamaica- even to this day. The legal precedents from the Privy Council that concern Jamaica are, based on the principle of stare decisis, binding- they are not merely persuasive (see Pratt v. A-G for Jamaica, for example). Whether or not the government of the country that hosts the highest court is forcing the former territory to use its court as its last court of appeal is irrelevant, really. For, using YOUR sources' definitions of independence, nowhere does it mention that "force" has to be achieved/used, or not used, for (in)dependence to take place. Being dependent on, or relying on, which is the opposite of independence/independent, can in fact negate your status as an independent country or territory. And, yes, it's more than just being economically or financially dependent. People and things dependent on other things and people for a myriad of reasons. In Jamaica's case, the situation is very unique.
Imagine claiming "ownership" of something that is Essentially *LEASED*
How many individuals parade with *POMP AND CEREMONY* thinking they hold the *OFFICE OF CREDITOR* when in *ACTUALITY* they have been *DECEIVED* into occupying the *OFFICE OF THE DEBTOR*
Why is *LATIN* prominently on the *U.S NEGOTIABLE DEBT INSTRUMENT* simply because they *KNOW* most who use it *CAN'T READ IT*
Certant Omnes Sed Non Omnibus Palmam
Irie, you never cease to amaze me! What can I say, another great video. Thanks for enlightening me as well as the doubters about Jamaica and its status as an independent country. I can see you put a lot of research into this topic and it came across very well. Well done. I can’t wait to see the next video. Thank you.
It’s great to you because you are not able to think for yourself when it come to foreigners invade our lands because of the war on each other’s that most time they create in their country.
Keep an eye on these people.
You broke it down clearly and I fully understand.
I still say Jamaica is Dependent, 'Not In' .
It's a illusion to think that Jamaica is not influence and control by external forces .
It's a science, Political Science, Social Science construct that is set up in every country by the powers that Be.
Raspect... Irie 🙏
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True, but being "infuenced" and being "independent" (or as you put it "dependent") are two different things. Every Country, even the USA is "influenced" and / or "dependent" on other Countries in one way or another. And that was the point of this video...to explain what an "Independent Country" is., and WHY Jamaica is Independent. But I realize you understand this, and have acknowledged it. Kudo's to you on that.
Informative. Thank you Irie.
Thank you for highlighting my birth land the land of Jamaica., I'm a new sub to your page keep up the great work Thorpe brought me here,Sean from Toronto Canada
Another great video - setting the record straight.
I am coming over from the Paul Bogle content. Big thanks for the work 🙏
Excellent, well presented. Thank you.
As usual Irina....a truly thorough research. Well done. Thank you.
We live in a global world and we ( countries) need each to live our “best” lives and have access to everything that’s available… it’s progress
Once again brilliant information.💪💚👏Thank you Irie
I learned a lot via this video. Thanks
Awesome video!
Much thanks for the info 👍 😊
So true
Iriena, you are the very best.
Thanks for explaning the difference between independent and dependent!
It's absolutely brilliant. I've learnt so much from this video..👏👏👏❤️🇯🇲💯
I love you ❤. Excellent video... as usual.
Only people who do not know what a independent countries is would say Jamaica is not independent. 🤦🏽♂️
How is Jamaica independent when a foreigner foreigner is our head of state make it make sense 👀
Jamaica is not fully independent as recognized by and compared to countries like the United States and other countries. Jamaica must cut its umbilical cord from Britain in ALL aspects of governance. Republicanism is the only way out. But, this wouldn’t wash Britain’s hands of the atrocities it has done, and reparations must be paid.
When one is indoctrinated to the point of paralysis of analysis, that's a walking dead. Who appointed Holness to the privy council? You all are so dunce.😱
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@@markmcfarlane8600 By that logic, Canada and Australia are not independent either, as King Charles III is the head of state for those countries.
Irie I agree with you 💯 %
Thank for ur documentary good work
I guess I do not know what an independent country is then. Covid showed me all I needed to know about sovereignty. Did we forget that ill coloured flag flown on local grounds? That flag, was not a national or international flag but served as a deliberate reminder of whose knee is in whose neck. Those political innuendos brings me right back into the history books of our wailing forefathers.
Independence is like freedom, it is not a name but a state. "Are we there yet?"
No, you don’t.
Independence and Freedom are two different concepts. A country can be independent, but not free (e.g. Belarus, Cuba, North Korea), or a place can be free, but not an independent country (e.g. Cayman Islands, Puerto Rico etc). It's just that the term itself "independent country" has a direct relation to politics only, not to what many people view as "independence", often replacing other words with it like freedom, isolation, self-sufficiency etc.
@@JAMAICAWITHIRIEwe aren't an independent country. Our coat if arms tells us who our masters are. We are still mastered by the slavers
Irie, my sister, keep doing your thing. You are making a difference!
For this to make any sense, it has to be brought under one homogenous structure with the Jamaican Nationals and Citizens as sovereign.
JAMAICA WITH IRIE, as usual, well done!
Your study has satisfied the legal definition of an independent nation. Consequently, I accept that Jamaica satisfies the requirements that you pointed to while admitting that I was one of those who professed that we were not quite independent.
I'll just make mention of two observations about this topic. Firstly, it's quite a paradox that Jamaica is independent, but the "head of state" is the British monarch.
Secondly, if i may just highlight some important points about your quotation, "an independent country is free from outside control when it comes to making decisions." That is ideally true. However, there are factors that come into play that can and have influenced decision-making. The world of geopolitics predominates and especially as it pertains to the economic strength of a nation, region, or block, and the strength of the leadership of these countries. Size and population are also factors that come into play. In Jamaica's case, we had developed a reputation of being mendicants, both of cash and kind, spanning a very long time. This has resulted in individual countries and regional blocks like the EU or UN to actually influence policy-making in Jamaica. This, however, is more a symptom of weak leadership and not suggestive of an absence of independence. Outside influence is always present. One only has to look at the recent diplomatic row over an American diplomat and his same gender partner when we were essentially being blackmailed into accepting him or else. Now, this is where the strength of an economy, the strength of the county's leadership, and even its size makes an enormous difference. The US would have never presented such an issue before the Saudis, Chinese, or Singaporeans because they know that there would be severe backlash.
Respect!
These are some very good arguments, thank you for sharing!
@JAMAICAWITHIRIE where's d Irish jamaican video?
@@selroywestfield4236 at the editing stage, should come out before the end of September
@@JAMAICAWITHIRIE ok thanks
@@JAMAICAWITHIRIECan you please advise why a comment I just posted was ‘removed’? I don’t believe YOU personally delete comments, but your channel appear to have YT’s extra selective filtering attached to it. Ty
This is a great lesson, informative and inspiring. Thank you
The British Monarchy draws from Jamaican coffers (tax payers) for support in the performance of His Majesty’s duties when in Jamaica or acting as King of Jamaica (He bill us). Jamaican tax dollars pay for the costs associated with the Governor-General in the exercise of the powers of the Crown, including travel, security, residences, offices, ceremonies, and the like. The Jamaican Government just announce a $34 million salary increase for the GG to be paid for by the Jamaican Tax Payers
I think u are a God sent to Jamaica. Weldone on your research and documentaries!
Love you 😊
Good Day !
This is very well done even if one has different opinions I would think they would admit it is good content
True word Irena. My sentiments exactly
Need to share this with the Rasta community
8:25 Thanks Irena.
In that video, the link to the following documents are broken:
(1)Jamaica Constitution,1962
(2)Jamaica Independence Act, 1962
(3)West Indies Act, 1962.
I was wondering if you could add a current link there and in the description section of this video.
Please and thanks.
YOU ARE THE LADY FOR RESEARCHING 🎉❤
Thanks Irina! Very informative as usual.
I not sure what is the role of the Governor General?
Good n ya Irene " that's Aussie Slang!...im Jamaican/ Australian n have viewed your Vlogs regularly!!.. you 're definitely an Asset to Jamaica!!!!
Thank you.
Thanks for explaining! For a long time I was seeing the British government and the Queen as one and the same!
My question is what’s the purpose for Jamaica having a monarchy if it’s an independent nation? Because of that Jamaica doesn’t have a Jamaican president but a Prime Minister who takes orders from the Governor General who’s the Kings representative.
Irina, you have opened a huge can of worms. They are all wiggling out. Great topic. Im enjoying reading ALL the comments. Sometimes they are equally as interesting as the videos. ❤❤
As usual 😅you are putting the controversy too rest!!👏🏾👏🏾👍🏾🇯🇲keep the truth coming we have too stomp out ignorance in jamaica.
Very well articulate and presented in a succinct and attention grabbing fashion….well done bright star!
Every country in the world 🌎 should have a IRIE.........
Excellent academic video as usual. I really think a lot of the naysaying should upset us, not only because of the labor and cost paid by our ancestors but because there are political influences aimed at getting people to disengage politically because every lost vote is one more in favor of those who want to influence the government to do whatever they want which may not be in the public's best interest.
I personally don't think any country is really, truly independent. We all live in a global society. UK, with a chip on their shoulder thought they were independent, until the leave the EU. We are all interdependent, wether Caribbean, the Americas, Europe,, Asia etc. we all need each other to survive
yes, you're right, but the term "independent country" is a political term simply to distinguish countries with their own foreign policies and countries where decisions are made by the Governments of other countries.
@@JAMAICAWITHIRIE thank you ISO much for explaining it to me. 🙏🏾🙏🏾
So long as Jamaica stays a common wealth it isn’t independent in my mind. There wouldnt be widespread reporting about Jamaica and other countries wanting to cut ties with their former colonizer if you were fully independent. The head of state and court is Britain lol how can we reasonably say this is an independent country? The fact that Jamaica can make its own laws is irrelevant if it needs the royal families ok for it to get passed. Plus the IMF, ISDS policies and other policies or entities make it near impossible for the country (and others) to truly grow not just survive. I would advise people to watch Matt Kennard interviews on youtube
You do know that joining and leaving the commonwealth is voluntary. Perhaps you should request a referendum to the beautiful people of Jamaica to decide. Regardless, I will always adore and love Jamaica, the people are amazing. To voluntarily leave the commonwealth must be their choice. God bless Jamaica ❤️.
Irie i am telling you or right on the .money. you or . More Jamaican then a lot off my fellow Jamaican you show more respect to my country then a lot of my country man respect for that sister
Knowledge is power teach them
Irie, I'd like to get in touch with you, thanks
You are correct
If Jamaica is independent then why does the governor general get pay from the UK government which is controlled by the British royal family
The British Monarchy draws from Jamaican coffers (tax payers) for support in the performance of His Majesty’s duties when in Jamaica or acting as King of Jamaica (He bill us). Jamaican tax dollars pay for the costs associated with the Governor-General in the exercise of the powers of the Crown, including travel, security, residences, offices, ceremonies, and the like. The Jamaican Government just announce a $34 million salary increase for the GG to be paid for by the Jamaican Tax Payers
Need that bauxite video pls
I love your videos thanks for sharing your information and doing the research. I really want to know what is the easiest way and the process to travel with my pets from the UK to Jamaica? I have done some research but still feel overwhelmed by the whole process. Pls pls pls Could you create a video on this subject. Thank you.😊
Jamaica is not pet friendly. I don't know of any hotels that accept pets, and very few Airbnb if any. Socially it's not acceptable to bring your pets around . If you are moving there maybe it's worth the effort, but not for a visit.
@@waitaminute2015 thanks for the advice but I meant to bring to my own property
@@stephanie2049 I only know of a friend who brought a cat from Jamaica to California. Paperwork and fees were in the thousands. Start with customs maybe? Also if you're bringing it back to the US, there's a ban for dogs until 2024 for some countries. You'll have to Google all of this, since rules change.
So what's the Governor General for?
I want to move here am like 31 and child 4 I just wudnt no we’re to start or how to go about it 🙄😬
You make sense out of nonsense! BRAVO 😂😂😂
Irie your or telling true about Jamaica. Your do your research very well
Thank you for providing clarity on the matter. There has been much confusion on the issue of 'Jamaica's independence', but now i can share your vlog and out the natter to rest. 🇯🇲 🇬🇧 🇯🇲
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God bless irie for making Jamaican knows that thank you now they knows
Well explained! I can tell you're a teacher. "Independence" means making one's own decisions not freedom from (consideration of) the consequences thereof. NOBODY is really independent in the latter sense. Many people also get confused about the "head of state". As you said, Canada & Australia are constitutional monarchies too and have the same HoS, King Charles. They are also independent countries.
Jamaica needs to practice self-reliance.
self-reliance for an island is a challenge and can only be practiced to an extent.. Then we need fuel, computers and other technology, which we don't have on the island.
@@JAMAICAWITHIRIE at least, where food is concerned .
Self-reliance would mean educating the masses to be inventors of technology, need engineers, scientists, good educators, computer chips, etc. Even the US who frequently denounce China collaborate with them on many technological projects. Jamaica cannot survive on its sunshine alone to be self-reliance.
@@barbaralundie8457 Well said!...
Irena, pls can you do a podcast about the crab situation. You are the only one I trust. The others with the exception of David. Was jus one sided and I think they caused more damage than good to the street food industry in Jamaica. Blesseings. I know this vlog wasn't about that. But needed to reach out to u in some way. You are the only person who is professional and intelligent to do this. Others just talk without research and facts❤❤❤❤
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Thanks for doing a video on this highly debated topic by Jamaicans. I want to think that we have achieved a high level of self-governance. However, I would not say we are fully independent. If we were, we would take the hint that the Privy Council truly wants us to not see it as our court of last resort. We would have the confidence like Barbados and others in the Caribbean Court of Justice. We also would not retain laws on our books that have their roots in colonialism. We are getting there, but a lot more needs to be done. At least we are not British Overseas Territories.
There is a lot more to be done, you're right, and even when it's done - there will still be room for improvements. The reason why Jamaica isn't moving as fast as Barbados is because Barbados didn't have such a detrimental influence of the USSR and Soviet interference into their politics, like Jamaica had, as a result Jamaican economy was seriously damaged by the USSR "friendship", which in turn pushed Jamaica behind some other Caribbean nations. Luckily though Jamaica took mostly the good things from "socialism" ideas (made education and medicine available to everyone), but in the end managed to get out of russian influence. However, because of that "experiment" - Jamaica has been focusing around solving its economical problems and getting out of poverty which in turn was also driving crime rate high, so Jamaica got stuck in that vicious circle and had no time nor money to focus on becoming a republic or working on other political aspects. However, the last 10 years have been very successful for Jamaica and it's moving forward both economically and politically very fast. Let's keep the pace.
@@JAMAICAWITHIRIESo, basically the Prime Minister that everyone loves and admire so much, MM, did the country more harm than good in his quest for an independent Jamaica?. That has always been my view and I will keep it. I must add...that it wasnt intentional on his part. Regardless, we are here NOW. I hope the current administration is able to keep chugging on their quest to get the country on track. It takes and needs a certain mindset to govern the country or else we will not get there! Im afraid the General Populus might not see it this way! Ignorance is a hell of a thing!
@@kattahb4103 Michael Manley? From what I've read and watched - he meant to do good and he loved his country and people, but things don't always work out the way planned and he sadly chose the wrong path. Today we know that socialism in its Soviet form is a disaster and a death sentence for any economy but in those days it was not obvious yet, so many countries fell into the Soviet trap.
@@JAMAICAWITHIRIE You are absolutely correct. I agree and understand your sentiments. I will again say...his ignorance and love for his country assisted us into this mess!
We know Jamaica is an independent country, but we'd like to be truly independent, there's a difference. Shed all ties with the former colonial power, they might not have as much authority as they did before, but it's the sense of dignity we'll have as a predominantly black nation that will be important for us to move forward. Those people have done the worst things imaginable to our people for centuries, the times may have changed, but our dark history never will.They can change their laws at any time to have more dominion over us, It's important that we become a republic to avoid being subjugated to anyone else's constitution. If the monarchy is not doing anything to help us grow, what's the point of keeping it? You have to wake up and start thinking! We've gotten this far on our own, and we can absolutely go further. Her country is at war with a country we trade with, of course she's gonna want you to be allies with her allies. Ukrainians have been openly racist, we have our own problems that we have to address. I want everybody reading this post to understand why we can only move forward as a republic.
you are right Ukrainians are racist people.
I hear you, but many Jamaicans are not bright enough to see through Irie's white face.
Hi so much love from India
I get your point, but the monarchy holds the power to veto government policies and frequently use that power albeit in secret. Thank you for another factual podcast.
You are inventing a reality to fill your fantasy; I say it all the time no matter how sensible an explanation is, you will always find a person who will invent nonsense to support their erroneous belief.
Thank you, glad you found the video useful. However, the Monarchy does NOT have the power to veto the Government policies. They can only veto the Government policy if the other Government power in Jamaica tells them to do so (aka opposition). So, to put it simply - the party in the opposition has the power to veto the current Government's policy with the help of the Monarch, because the Monarch can only do what's told by the Parliament. This was actually once attempted in Australia (they tried to remove the PM). Check out my video where I go into the details of how this works here:
ua-cam.com/video/hOylgoM3HTA/v-deo.htmlsi=nWmJbCihk-lnwxSR
In secret, so how you know... You are just assuming some made up rubbish.
@@jamaicantillidie6626, no not assuming I know enough actual facts to know you are chatting nonsense. But why waste my time, nothing that is said will ever change the mind of someone deluded into believing in their own rabbit hole of foolishness.
Who ever said the Monarchy veto legislation in secret my response was for them.
So how does the governor general fit into this scenario 🤔
Based on the system of Government we have.
ok
Then again, how many are?
Irina has done a good job of academically defining Jamaican independence. Realpolitik actually determines that the U.S. decides Jamaica's foreign policy. Any Jamaican Prime Minister who actively opposes American foreign policy will be removed from power, and likely in short order. I don't approve of this unfortunate reality, but as a realist, I must recognize that it is a reality.
IRIE is MAKING quite sure to secure her spot /place in Jamaica by always making sure to say the right thing at all times so she doesn't get kicked out 💯🤔👀🧐😎
Is republic working in ,which is it, Barbados?
Is it NOT working? How is it not working? Please do tell
This is how you know people that didn't pay attention in school.
If they don’t control the country why why why are they the head of state. What is the point? What’s the meaning of them being head of state?
Need a little clarity, why do we say long live the KING in our courts, and why do we have a governor general.
What about the Governor general who's the kings representative?. King Charles is the head of state.
The current Jamaican monarch and head of state, since 8 September 2022, is King Charles III.
Edit: Doesn't matter
I know I know nothing
Yes the peoples of Jamaica did and is indeed fighting to *BE* independent, (we are one of Realm Nation out of 14 in the Commonwealth, UK informs us, if they want to enter Jamaica as a "courtesy"), We got granted independence because the UK was broke. She couldn't maintained the infrastructure of her colonies. Before leaving and making bonfires of our records, she put in place the families that would, do have the powers (the merchantile class). They wrote the laws. UK Home Office even set the pathway to becoming a Republic. PM Holiness, took the 1st step in becoming a Republic by issuing public notices and informing the monarchy. Privy Court is a concern in going to a Republic, Trinidadians, Barbados figured out so can Jamaica.
At the time of independence the *UK absence landowner* still owned most of the land.
Russian Oiligarchy, are the largest property owners now in Jamaica, because instead selling large amounts of land to Black Jamaicans, the Brits while selling London and their historical estates they also sold their properties in Jamaica. While some of the merchantile class sold to Italians, Trinidadians, Brazilians, Mexicans and others.
When Jamaica need money we went to the *"mother country,"* she said no (even though our moneys are, in her bank, making her spreadsheet look good) so that left the *WORLD bank and the IMF.* When we wanted highways we made contract with old and true British company, that rebranded themselves as Anglo Australian company (which have the most horrific human rights and environmental abuses). Went also to Chinese (Chinese, East Indians, Syrians, Lebanese are part of our merchantile class) because one project the Brit said was impossible, the Chinese got it done.
The Monarch gives consents to the laws. In fact sometimes they have *not* "given consent," when it comes to *their properties, interests and hiring practices.*
The protests to get rid of English Monarch is not needed, there are laws written to get rid of monarchy since *English Civil War and King Charles II,* return to the throne (not sure if there's processss for the Scots, the Welsh, the Irish to get rid of monarch off their thrones).
The Bailiwick of Guernsey and Jersey, Isle of Man, are under total control of the UK's monarch. The British monarch is *LARGEST, LANDOWNER IN THE WORLD!*
Not free from outside control... not all countries.. Singapore, UAE, South Africa, Seychelles, Rwanda, Zwitzerland, not any decision can be made without the British Monarch. You see .. independence have to do not just with one's law.. but their economy and what such economy is back by.. eg....Silver, Gold, property etc. Those are are store of values. What is the jamaican dollar back by? Just the USD they have in reserve. Well USA ofcoure having a big problem with that trade deal with Russian. Frankly...I thought you knew that.. did you heard the message from Congress woman Maxine Walters?
Do you know how much per kilo for that red dirt that is mined by all those previous countries to include Russia. And its uses?
Jamaica is been rolled. Congrats to our leaders. One love Irene❤
“BRAVO!”
Good lessons to some of “The BONE Headed People.”
Education and Research is “Key.”
Do your own research too because her explanations about JA being independent is flawed. INDEPENDENCE is NOT an event but a process. GOOGLE: The Myth of Independence- Middle Class Politics and Non-Mobilization in Jamaica, By Louis Lindsay
Say what you may. But we have a very short straw. We ask, "how high?" To be independent, we have to be seen as a bargaining body and not a go-for.
fully agree I was here when Manley tried to flex his independence and look what happened to him it is and illusion to keep us thinking that we're doing just fine. it all looks good from a text book the reality is quite different.@@agro-valleyfarm7217
@@agro-valleyfarm7217 At the end of this video I deliberately brought up an example where I explain the difference between "independent" and "independent country". The problem is that you still think that "an independent country" has anything to do with processes, while it is simply a political term to distinguish countries with local governments that have foreign policy and those who don't. This term doesn't actually mean "independence" in the way you think it does. As an analogy - you're arguing that the term "hot food" means that the food is always hot, while I'm trying to explain that it's a specific term simply to indicate that the food is spicy, while spicy can be either hot, cold or warm.
The anology that you used at the end of your video DOES NOT address the issue as to whether or not if Jamaica is an independent country-you have only explained that although the SENTINELESE people have achieved some level of SELF-SUFFICIENCY that does not make the SENTINEL island a sovereign state/independent country as it is a part of INDIA. @@JAMAICAWITHIRIE. What make a country an independent country AND being able to borrow money from the IMF or World Bank is NOT one of them. Recently Uganga asserted its sovereign right to NOT support homosexuality and for doing so it has been disqualified by the white controlled World Bank from borrowing money from it. In regards to a country the terms independent (level of independence-being self-determined, achieving self-sufficiency etc) and being an independent country are NOT mutually exclusive-they are both inextricably linked together. It's like land and housing go hand-in-hand together-it's not possible to have housing without land. The level of indendence of a country determines how independent it is. And that is why a country becoming independent is a process and not an event. Also no country on this planet can consider itself to be 100 percent independent because they are vulvernable in some areas-lack of resources etc.
Since the 2014 US sponsored coup in your country that removed President Viktor Yanukovych from office, is Ucraine still an independent country???
blessed love irene you come here come see what bob Marley so many others talk about.
Ириша, вы такая классная! И мне бы поучиться у вас английскому, а то живу в Лондоне, но никак не заходит мне язык. Удачи вам!❤🎉
Jamaica is In Dependency of other countries for a lot resources. One resource being money we always borrow from the world bank.
You said it, no country is independent. They are "sovereign nations". The word "independent" us applied to Jamaica and many African countries because they were at one point colonized by another country. They may have since gained independence from that particular colonizer, but that does not mean that they are fully independent of the cultural, historical, economic, legislative, linguistic, hegemonic influences, etc. That being said, the country does enjoy some level of independence, but again this can be affected by the political institutions and traditions of the colonizer that are still in place and adhered to.