I am so over the corruption and dishonesty displayed by many dealerships and manufactures. Since I am well over 60 I am sure they don't care, but I will be keeping my like new 2014 F150 Lariat and the associated $65K to $85K to replace that vehicle. They have officially pushed me out of the buyers market for the remainder of my life.
I’m with you. My 2009 Honda Accord V6 was the best big buy of my life got it 5 years ago for $5K. Over 200K and runs perfectly. Hoping I never have to think of replacing it.
Here's a bit of advice I was given by a mechanic: Don't buy anything built during or leading up to a major economic shitshow. Also, don't be surprised if you find lots of defective-out-of-the-box parts coming from the parts stores. When manufacturers start having to cut costs, quality control gets cut too
I found a van I was interested in at a local dealership earlier today. It's a 2023 with 15k miles. I called the dealer to ask about the price and while on hold, I used Chevy's VIN decoder to look up the window sticker. MSRP when new was $44k. The dealer got on the phone and told me they were asking $54k. $10,000 above the original MSRP on a USED car! That's $6000 above a new one!
For real, stop buying cars!! Last week I was just looking at a 9 year old stick-shift Nissan Versa on a nearby lot. I'm not in the market, I just like to look and follow the market, especially manual variants to see how slowly or quickly they sell. But anyway. I got the VIN and ran it through all the sites. The highest offer on the car was $3,500 if it was mine and I was selling it. So I figured it was worth about $6k maybe $6.5k if I was buying it on the lot. This dealership had it on the lot for $10.7k!!! A 9 year old manual Nissan Versa! I was thinking, there's NO WAY they're gonna sell it at that price. But they did, and it only took 33 days! Whoever bought the car, even if they paid cash upfront, they're already approximately 100% underwater on it the day they bought it.
I (We) recently purchased a 2023 F150 4x4 and it was the WORST experience of my life!!! Salesman are clueless and all they can think about is getting the customer to say yes and will lie continuously. We're done. We will never, ever buy another new or used car from a dealership again.
Yep, even in the more reliable brands: my friend's wife just replaced their 11 year old Hyundai that had a known engine problem. Only reason it lasted that long too was because they didn't put that many miles on it too.
I am currently in the market for a vehicle because last month I was hit by an uninsured and unlicensed driver totalling my 2011 Prius. My insurance paid out my car at a little less than 8000 dollars and the used car market is so crazy that I'll have to finance the remainder of the balance of a decent used car for my daily 45 minute commute everyday. It's so frustrating!
Just a fyi, you can insure for a dollar amount, no matter what the car is "worth" in their books. What you describe is a real problem. An old car that runs great is really worth more just because buying another at that price is a real gamble. You might go through a couple at that price before getting a reliable one you like.
Try to find another Prius which you are familiar with already. 2017-2020 prior too the covid out break around the globe. The chip shortage caused issues in quality of chips as well.
GOOD FOR YOU for not dealing with banks and putting your customers in debt !!! The borrower is slave to the lender. Wish there were more ethical salesmen out there like you. Huge respect!
As a diesel mechanic for 18 years now. Semi’s are getting more and more of those stupid sensors as well. Semi trucks quality is becoming more and more crap as well. All vehicles are turning into a bunch of nonsense.
Ok, all vehicles are now so overloaded with technology and sensors, etc, that the upkeep on these systems is no longer sustainable unless motor manufacturers are forced to make these sensors more reliable. While it's great to have all these technologies in cars, etc, we may have gone too far in expecting to be so well protected without paying to maintain our current level of protection. Cars are just too expensive now.
Couldn't agree more. All cars regardless of make are now loaded with sensors and modules, and it is those components that usually cause issues. No modern car will be able to last as long as many of the older cars out there.
You are so right and it is going to get far worse. Catch the Stelentis presentation of the future Ram Revolution total electric. It’s not a concept but a coming vehicle. Super high tech and covered with sensors. Only thing it didn’t give up was a price but I am so sure it is North of a hundred grand. This is driving the coming car/truck market and they are all going to be like taking out a mortgage. Look for financing of15 years to jump start sales.
Especially when it's a 1 owner that really kept up on the maintenance. Even if you put 2-3 thousand in, it can be well worth it especially when said and and done can be a fraction of the cost of a new one that has much better, simpler build quality
My wife owns a 2015 RAV4. I own a 2014 Camry and a 2018 GX460. All paid for. All well maintained and garage kept. I have ZERO plans on selling and buying cars for the near. No debt, no car payments or no withdrawing cash out of my account to put into caos car market. Thanks for the video.
I see a lot of sellers going to auctions and buying cars for a low price then turn around and try to sell them for 5 times more than what they are worth. Nobody will pay those prices. It's pure greed ..
If nobody pays those prices, they should try to sell the cars for 4 times than they're worth. If still won't sell, make it 3 times....... and keep doing it until it sells.
@@JasbirSingh-zj1fgyeah but most people been holding out for a few years already. You don’t really have a choice unless you get a car from family or friends for decent price. You can wait it out 20 years but doesn’t mean much when you have to go to work tomorrow and your car took a dump
I agree with you on Ford losing customers, I'm one of them. I bought a new 2020 Escape Titanium Hybrid with AWD, all but two options, and like clockwork every 5,000 miles it was towed to the dealership for a two-to-three-week repair, the final straw was when a snowstorm blew through my area, and it lock itself out of AWD and blew a tire ($330 repair out of pocket), I can't tell you how many times I got stranded on the side of the road waiting for road side assistance that never came. after 14 months I sold it, as everyone in my family was afraid of the car breaking down or having some type of serious issue to leave them stranded. I love ford products in the past, but I won't buy another new Ford product again.
That's horrible, I wondered what happened. My 2012 Ford Fusion, built in Mexico, still runs like a champ. I've never had a break down and it still runs like new. Ford needs to research what was happening when my car was manufactured!
@@spunkyb5249 my 2001 Focus is running perfectly, as is my spouse's 2012 Escape, and my 2001 Escape with a 5 speed, I've owned the focus since new and it's been flawless, never left me stranded, bought the 2001 Escape from down south and it's a blast to drive. My 2020 was bought at the height of covid (in october of 2020) and you could tell the quality went downhill, we had a 2014 Escape we traded for the 2020, I'm glad we did, as those are notorious for engine and transmission failures. Seems like the quality at ford went down during the 2012 / 2013 model refreshes when they sourced a lot of their models from their European line ups (Mondeo/Fusion, Escape/Kuga, Focus MK3+)
The more that the manufacturers farm out their parts and components, the more problems they are going to experience. In the days that the car companies made almost everything in house they had a better eye on quality.
LMAO the reason companies (GM being an excellent example) made their own parts was to control the engineered life cycle so the whole car would turn to shit in a pre determined time frame.
Whats funny is they keep adding "features" that most people dont need or want and price people out of purchasing. While over seas these same companies still make simple economical cars and trucks that are reliable.
Just finished doing my front brakes and rotors. Doing back brakes and drums tomorrow. Did front struts. Doing it all myself. Saving so much Doing it all myself.
@TheOzthewiz honestly. I'm enjoying working on it. I used to work on cars before I became a nurse. Old corolla worth 86k miles. 1998. My grandma did not drive it much. But a car sitting around isn't good either.
I just paid $900 of 150k maintenance. It flushed all fluids and replaced them. Then I paid $1,600 to replace the power steering pump because I started pouring fluid down my driveway. Then I paid $600 for front breaks/rotors installed. My SUV was in the shop for 3days. I got quoted for a timing chain too. $3,600 with labor or 9k with labor for a new engine. Vehicles are insanely expensive to maintain.
With modern technology and advancements, it is a shame that quality is less, repairs are more frequent and costs for everything just sky rocket. Keep the old reliable if you have one or can find one.
At least Toyota is stepping up to resolve issues with cars that are 20 years old. I ditched Ford for good in 2001. Badly constructed vehicles and no accountability from the dealer or the manufacturer. When I asked them to make good on a lemon, Ford mailed me a “sorry you are angry” card. Haven’t looked back. Sorry to see that it’s only gotten worse.
Yeah Toyota did the same with me. I bought a 2023 Toyota tundra. Had to hire a lawyer and claim lemon law because Toyota of America said hey sorry about your luck deal with the dealership. Dude Toyota blows… but I guess for you it’s ok that they suck because they will fix the suck product they produced lol lol
The problem you describe is compounded by car manufacturers having decided over a decade ago to entice buyers with chip filled gadgets in both the front and rear of the vehicle AND at the same time get cheaper parts for the car's drive train and engine accessories. So fewer and fewer cars will last long without high annual maintenance costs. Not talking oil changes, but core vehicle parts.
I would say the quality started dropping 10 to 15 years ago. The electronics go up within a year, if one thing needs to be replaced it's a downward spiral for the entire vehicle.
I've got a new F150, with only 31,000 miles it's on the third engine already. The first engine blew at 1,315 miles, the second engine lasted until 30,925 miles. That one burned a hole in #3 piston and valve. The dealer never figured out why. So far the truck has been down a total of over 8 months, Ford does not care, they flatly refused to even give me a loaner while the truck was down. I had to buy another car to drive because my brand new truck was just over a month old with 1,300 miles, it took them 6 months just to get the engine from Ford and to get it installed. It now has 500 miles on the third engine, I have to drive it 2,000 miles in March for a trip, I'm literally hoping it makes it without blowing the engine again.
Quality is not the only thing going on. The Government is mandating more and more components on cars in the name of safety and fuel economy, but each new sensor or system is a potential point of failure. Further, some of these small components are so integrated to the drivetrain that the failure of a $10 sensor can stop your car from running and cost $500 or more to replace. Complexity is killing cars, not just quality.
I think that Ford is panicking about losing significant market share during the electrification phase. Their solution to that is to move into a premium segment of the market with a lot more expensive vehicles that are more like toys and luxury than anything else. It seems to me like this is the strategy, and if it is, they will fail miserably, and they will probably go out of business, or just become a very unimportant competitor kinda like Stelantis group. And you are completely correct about the quality. Another reason why they will lose significant market share. It’s the only company that managed to piss off everyone. Customers, dealers, workers, etc.. lol. Nice job Ford!
Moral fortitude or lack of it is what is killing “humanity” if you can even call it that. So many have sold their souls for unimportant materials or someone’s death or the love of another is disturbing
Fun fact: a great baseball player, Marquis Grissom, was named after the Grand Marquis. His father worked at the factory that was building them when he was born.
@@crlaw75 I have one now. 2005. Floats on a cloud . Each of my sons drove it when they got there licenses. If they were going to get in an accident, I wanted to be in a tank. Unfortunately, my middle son did get him one, but all I did was break the headlights in the front, because some lady stopped who wasn’t paying attention when she was on her phone, he rear ended her.
I've driven an 01 accord every day since 2006, now with 267k miles & dents/scratches on every panel. Am grateful it runs well and doesn't leak after replacing every gasket and seal known to man. I dread the day I need to purchase a vehicle.
I think during these times, we really need someone to come out with a cheap affordable basic vehicle in the US. We need old school basic bare bones trucks and cars at a low price more now than ever.
So what the scam is now is that all of the dealerships are not only charging you in one handhundred thousand dollars to buy a vehicle , but you get shit$y quality with that is a bonus!!!!!
My dad owns a 2001 Corolla. Has 200k miles on it. Not major issues except wear and tear and peeling paint. I bought 2013 Corolla got to 130k and started seeing major engine problems at 2k a fix, engine mounts costing another 2k.
Thank you for this excellent video. Yes, all the cars with electronic systems have sensors that do go bad overtime. I hate it but the new car prices make the old cars worth fixing. I thank God I have a reputable mechanic shop that is my safety net. Carry On Sir!
You are absolutely right about quality of these cars in the used market. Last few weeks I have skipped Adesa Seattle Auto Auction and have been driving to Portland for a Manheim auction. But quality concerns run rampant. Getting tougher.
I worked in a shop doing brakes and oil changes for about 6 months as a teen. I handle almost all of my own work. Besides Brakes, half shafts, and rust, the only issue I’ve had on my 5 fords has been sensors. That’s it. I wish they could all be gone.
They may be gone in 5yrs. There "was" talk about MAHINDRA TRACTOR of India wanting to buy Ford. Don't know if the negotiations are still ongoing or not!
Mostly used ones. I have learned to take care of them and don’t mind the little stuff. Even sensors are simple. It’s just the my are what goes bad , not the systems they monitor.
Got my 2012 fusion with 161k miles and have no plan to take on a 700 plus payment. I'd rather save for a house and keep the fusion on the road and not worry about the quality of the new vehicles
If the Fusion is working out for YOU, why on earth would you want to get rid of it! To impress the neighbors with a NEW SHINY object in the driveway? That would be foolish!!!
IRS reporting tax receipts are down record 57%. Because of decline in total hours worked. Most jobs are part time now. So hours have been cut and paychecks are smaller.
My min on car is to keep it at least 12 years. I have one that is 18 years old. I’m never getting rid of it. I think people are done trading in good cars. Not until new prices get cut in half. These dealers and manufacturers did this to themselves.
Keeping my '94 Camry,some parts are needing replacement but minor stuff,this car is comfortable, very reliable and has half a million kilometers on it and definitely deserves some love as far as replacing some parts. My car is hands down the best highway vehicle for traveling and has never let me down, so many people stop me and say that they once owned a car like mine and wish they still had it! Older Toyota's are amazing works of art.
I have an old mini van and I rather spend 1-3 grand a year in repairs than to spend 6-9 thousand on new car payments per year. Repairs do suck, but it's 2-3 or even 4 times cheaper for me to stick with my old Van than to get a new one. Prices are just too high to justify the purchase. I won't get a new Van until the repair prices per year get close or over the payment price per year of a new one.
I know people say Toyotas quality is slipping which I do agree to a degree. I have had a 2009 Corolla, 2016 Corolla LE and now I have a 2017 Corolla SE with a little over 120k miles and thankfully no issues with the fance adaptive cruise or anything g electronic on either the 2016 or the 2017. The 2009 blew an alternator and that was it. I have had very good luck with these cars. Before this I had a 2010 Chevrolet Cobalt that tested my will to live. Head gasket blew at 70k miles, timing chain was stretched. I had to ditch that sucker!
I have been buying Fords since 2007. 4 new, 3 used and have not had any issues with any of them. Not even a burned out light bulb. I have had more issues with the GM products I have owned since 2007. Three Cadillacs.
I don't think car companies were recalling 20 year old cars back in the 90s. If you are still driving your 20 year old car that's a good car. In 3 years mine will be 20.
I've been searching for the past few months. All the used vehicles in my area have had at least 3 owners. Plus anything under 100k miles is around $20k and above. Junker mustangs with like 7 owners, and 150k miles listed for like $10k. With the used interest rate hovering around 15%, your only option in the used market is to get screwed by the dealer and the bank. I'm just spending my savings for a down payment on repairing my car instead.
@@sethharrison2284 I bought my 2010sierra Denali in 2018 it just turned 8 years old… it had 1 owner with 75k on it … when I look at like 2018’s ( cause I don’t like the 19-present trucks) if it has more than 1 owner I’m not interested - mainly because they had issues with the new 8 speed. if I see a 15-18’ with more than 1 Owner I think it was a Chevy shake truck and 2 owners got rid of it.. I buy used with 1 owner only…
@@sethharrison2284 honestly id suggest looking into buying new, from a reliable brand. the interest rate makes the difference, and dealerships cant push the markups like they used to. most important thing is be willing to walk away from a bad deal or scammy addons
Car manufacturers have discovered that building appliances is WAY more profitable than building "classic" pieces of equipment that are designed and built to be repaired and maintained. The problem with newer cars is not that the technology is worse or the manufacturing process has declined, way on the contrary. The problem is new cars are DESIGNED not to be repairable and not to be easily maintainable. Things that can be simplified are actually complicated on purpose. Problems that did not exist are "solved" by adding tons of "features" nobody asked for that make the cars more expensive and more difficult to maintain. And that greed and abuse from the Big Manufacturers have been embraced and made worse by Big Government that wants to profit from the artificially hot "consumption" and at the same time, benefit from the fact that the modern cars-as-appliances are more controllable, more trackable, and eventually will be only available to a small minority, which (I believe) is the end goal.
Until they bring back quality and dependability, I think people will sit and wait! 7-to-8-hundred-dollar car payment buys a lot of parts that most can figure out with UA-cam how to fix!
That Grand Marquis (Mar-KEE) you have at 2:48 is probably one of the best cars worth repairing. I have one with 497,000 miles. Based on what you stated in this video it must run at least that much longer. GREAT VIDEO!
Ex car dealer parts guy....now working in IT...2004 frontier with the 4 cyl, and a backup 98 323i bmw as my fun weekender. Who needs anything else..thank you!
I totally agree, if it weren’t for the prices I would have replaced my 25 year old Toyota van. Instead I put new brakes, struts, and tires on it. The Maverick was top on my list, but now it’s not.
The airbag recall is a rolling one that’s going to be happening across almost every brand of vehicle. The airbags in question can corrode over the years and explode. They know they won’t for at least five years on average, and the company that made them quit after the largest recall ever about 10 years ago. Due to the only other supplier not being able to produce enough, almost all car brands put the other ones in new cars at the time and are rolling out recalls as they hit their period when they could explode.
I got my recall letter in the mail 6 months ago. My Chevy is a 2015 model and the dealership said there isn’t a FIX yet. Is my vehicle safe to drive? The recall said it could send projectiles that could cause severe harm and even death. That’s freaky!!!
@@seadragon1456 I’m not an expert on it but I know if you’re in saltier warm areas like a southern coast in can corrode the housing on it. Look up Takata airbags for much better details. It should be safe. They’re rolling out the recalls based on average time limits of the corrosion as far as I know. I think they’re trying to put a conservative buffer in on that timeframe. I had a mustang that was 9 months on recall at the time. I ended up trading it in with them aware of the recall.
The problem is people like buying new cars even though they can’t afford it. But, as a car dealer said before “ you have to have new cars to get used cars”. I go by the “bad” parts of town and people have nice cars worth more than their house.
I'm still lost/amazed at how people are so brand loyal - like - they sit there in bed thinking: "What will my friends think of me if I deviate from a Ford/Chevy!?!?" - we have way too much identity crisis in this country - I'm lost on why people refuse to simply vote/buy/think/behave in ways that are of their own personal and economic best interests - THEN - they complain at how their own choices fail them - then - start the blame game... So - While I live in a Mt. Town in Utah - and I am made fun of on a weekly basis for driving a "pos nissan 370z" guess what - 110,000 miles - and perfectly reliable and FUN (God forbid we go around corners at a FUN speed... can't have that!?)... My conclusion is this: In America - like high school - people consume/purchase/think/behave MORE based upon what is POPULAR over their own personal best interests. You see it everywhere - the left is a great example - they vote for "just" one more DADDY GOVT prOgrAm then complain when that prOgrAm didn't do anything but add to their tax bill. Emotional purchasing decisions....and voting.... that's the issue...
The price keeps going up on new cars yet the quality seems to be going down a little more each year. My big question is, is the majority dealer service department's trained and qualified to work on these new cars, I am not sure.
I mean, just imagine. I have a 2013 Kia Rio ex-model, and it had 13 miles on the odometer when I bought it!! OK, Today that same vehicle has over 426,500 miles on it and still runs great!!! $17,405.00 New!!! Worth Every Cent!!! To put it to you plainly, the cars that you buy today are nothing but overpriced. Junk, all that you're paying for are the obscene. Profit margins that these dealerships are charging you and at the end of the day you're getting nothing for your money. Always by affordable vehicles from the get-go.
Lets say your car has 6 spark plugs. One of them goes out after a couple months. You cant just replace the one that is bad, you have to replace all 6. Because the computer will tell you that there is a difference between the 6, and give you an error. The computer does this for everything. You can't just repair a single part, you have to repair entire systems. The sensors.. yeah, I feel that too. How do you know if you are having a critical engine problem, and not a sensor problem? If your sensor has gone out 5, 6, 20 times, how do you trust it now? It is crying wolf constantly so when there is an actual issue, the average driver cant tell. All they know is the check engine light is one. This can lead to people being taken advantage of by mechanics. It can also lead to vehicles not being able to pass any kind of inspection, as a lot of states dont pass you for, lets say, an emissions inspection, if your check engine light is on.
I have a 2000 ford explorer sport. I bought at auction for 4,000 needed a egr valve and new tires and now runs and drives great. Going to keep it and drive it myself.
My 2021 Bronco 2.7L V6 has been perfect 2 plus years now. Gobs of smooth power and 10- spd.shifts buttery smooth. Fingers crossed , hope I have a good one. 😂
I’m changing the oil every 5K with full synthetic in a 2017 F150. Hope that helps (it does @ 10k a year). A 2018 Toy IM has 175K and gets most of the miles
I work in quality assurance for the department of defense. The purpose of this position is to keep the prices to a minimum for the taxpayer by reducing waste, fraud and defects. But there is no process where the people represent ourselves as a customer to keep the cost down by mitigating defects in the automobile manufacturing process. So we just eat the costs
Catapilla got tried of replacing parts because of bad sensors. So they they put two sensors on everything. If one sensor goes out, they replace the sensor. If both sensors show a problem, they'll fix the problem.
Trucks are for working class. $50000, there's a lot of money after finance fees. Everybody makes money, but the buyer. Entrance company repair shops the dealer. And ford
my buddy had a 2005 ford crewcab 1 ton diesel truck..older guy,never hard on it..basically never really even used it as a truck...he kept it well serviced...well, the head gasket went ..truck only had 85,000 miles..barely an miles for how long he had it..cost him $12,000 for repairs...then 2000 miles later some of the injectors that were just replaced with the head gasket went out..cost him another $3500..he ended up trading the truck in and just purchased a new 2023 ford 1 ton crewcab gas engine in november 2023.. ...he didnt want another ford diesel..so he drives his new truck back to the dealer for winter tires and asked what a noise was that the truck was making..they told him the transmission was going out...the truck has only 150 miles on it and already needs a new transmission..truck didnt even last 150 miles..insane..he didnt want to tell me cuz im a chevy guy..my 2001 chevy 2500hd crewcab with the 6 litre gas engine..has 255,000 miles..replaced fuel pump,alternator,brakes,front wheel bearing hub,and the tranfer case..shocks..thats all ive replaced on the truck and it still runs and drives great...it needs work though,power steering pump leaks,anti freeze leak coming from somewhere up front,(water pump?)..propbably should replace the ball joints and tie rods at some point..otherwise everthing on the truck is original..
I agree that happened to me. Had a 05 Impala LS v6 for 13 yrs. No issues that cost me over the yrs. due to quality issues I went to Toyota Avalon 2017, $21K, 28K miles, and 2023 Camry TRD, $32K 3K MILES. No issues so far. Great vehicles. No more American junk!
My father has a chevy 1500, and the gate randomly opened when he was backed in at work... he parks in a ramp garage. It scratched the gate pretty well. He has had nothing but problems with the gate. His solution was to take the fuse out. Seems like more technology = more headaches and more things to break.
I would love a High Quality, Low Tech car. I also feel like so many people do not keep up the normal maintenance on cars, so dash light stay on so long and a small issue becomes a large and expensive one.
I have a rule in general that I will not ever. Ever spent more than $25000 for a brand new vehicle? And there is no way in hell that I would give that for a used one simply and plainly. Because you don't know who the scumbag. Was that owned it before you and the unbelievable abuse that they did to it.
Cars are way too complicated and expensive these days. Someone needs to make a bare bones dumb car, and price it accordingly. It would sell like hot cakes
My car is 20 years old! bought it new - bought in october 2003 it is a 2004 Dodge Dakota Crew Cab. Went over 200,000 miles last week. Would love to buy a new one -- but not at the prices today --
I'm driving a 20-year-old Chevy Silverado, back when GM used to make them good, and I'm hoping it'll last a bit longer. I don't get how people can trade in a perfectly good vehicle every few years. That's why people in this country are broke.
Tallent in the auction business is when you get the same price without telling the auctioneer "What it has to bring". Most auctioneers cant sell effectively without being told a sell price...
I have a 2018 Ram 1500 (Daily Driver) and a 71 Charger, 71 Satellite and 91 Wrangler. All are tagged and drivable. SOOOOOO easy to work on non-computerized vehicles.
Quality seems to be a catch-all phrase. I wish we could have two separate categories for minor issues like maybe air bags or something not hard to fix vs major quality issues like transmission failure, head gasket failure, things having to do with the engine that are a major expense. My focus quality wise is not on the little annoying things that can be fixed, it is on the big, expensive things that people have a hard time coming up with the money for
Gone are the days when you could buy a car under MSRP.I have a 03 Towncar, with 118k on it ,wonderful car ,plenty of room,22mpg on the highway.Going to keep her.
recently tried the Costco auto buying service for the first time on 2024 Corolla LE Hybrid ... out the door price included $ 4,500 of dealer add ons over and above MSRP ... dealers suck
I’m driving my car until the wheels fall off. I have a 2011 VW Golf TDI. It only has 135k on it. As long as I service it properly, it should get to 300k+. Even if I had to spend some money to fix a serious issue, it’s still cheaper than buying a new car.
I am so over the corruption and dishonesty displayed by many dealerships and manufactures. Since I am well over 60 I am sure they don't care, but I will be keeping my like new 2014 F150 Lariat and the associated $65K to $85K to replace that vehicle. They have officially pushed me out of the buyers market for the remainder of my life.
Im 36 with a 2005 f150, considered new but i just cant see paying 80k , it silly now
65 here, I’m perfectly happy with my 2003 Tacoma that I bought new. It’s been a great vehicle and very cheap to insure.
I’m with you. My 2009 Honda Accord V6 was the best big buy of my life got it 5 years ago for $5K. Over 200K and runs perfectly. Hoping I never have to think of replacing it.
Fantastic, sir. You have entered the ideal scenario! Enjoy your freedom from debt. Safe driving. Greetings from Dublin Ireland 🇮🇪.
You don't have a clue what you're talking about.
As a mechanic I can tell you I'm seeing more engine failures now than I ever saw when I started 20 years ago
Hyundai and kia with their GDI engines ,lots if blowby then they run out of oil
Lack of maintenance is one reason.
They specifically hire engineers to design parts hidden deep in the engine and trans to fail.
I’ll stick with
That's why I drive 23yr old car 🤣
GM lifter issue is probably one of the biggest.
Here's a bit of advice I was given by a mechanic: Don't buy anything built during or leading up to a major economic shitshow. Also, don't be surprised if you find lots of defective-out-of-the-box parts coming from the parts stores. When manufacturers start having to cut costs, quality control gets cut too
I found a van I was interested in at a local dealership earlier today. It's a 2023 with 15k miles. I called the dealer to ask about the price and while on hold, I used Chevy's VIN decoder to look up the window sticker. MSRP when new was $44k. The dealer got on the phone and told me they were asking $54k. $10,000 above the original MSRP on a USED car! That's $6000 above a new one!
Try pricing used toyota pickups.
For real, stop buying cars!! Last week I was just looking at a 9 year old stick-shift Nissan Versa on a nearby lot. I'm not in the market, I just like to look and follow the market, especially manual variants to see how slowly or quickly they sell. But anyway. I got the VIN and ran it through all the sites. The highest offer on the car was $3,500 if it was mine and I was selling it. So I figured it was worth about $6k maybe $6.5k if I was buying it on the lot. This dealership had it on the lot for $10.7k!!! A 9 year old manual Nissan Versa! I was thinking, there's NO WAY they're gonna sell it at that price. But they did, and it only took 33 days! Whoever bought the car, even if they paid cash upfront, they're already approximately 100% underwater on it the day they bought it.
I (We) recently purchased a 2023 F150 4x4 and it was the WORST experience of my life!!! Salesman are clueless and all they can think about is getting the customer to say yes and will lie continuously. We're done. We will never, ever buy another new or used car from a dealership again.
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Yes they do condescend and don’t give a dang about you. You might even know more about their cars than they do as well.
3 to 7 years? Wow. I usually just replace the tires, not the whole car (my cars are 15 and 20 yrs old).
Wipers too LOL
@@robertwilliams3322Indeed. 🤣🤣🤣
Yep, even in the more reliable brands: my friend's wife just replaced their 11 year old Hyundai that had a known engine problem. Only reason it lasted that long too was because they didn't put that many miles on it too.
Smart man. 2012 and 2013 for me.
I love my 1981 toyota corolla 🤷♂️
I am currently in the market for a vehicle because last month I was hit by an uninsured and unlicensed driver totalling my 2011 Prius. My insurance paid out my car at a little less than 8000 dollars and the used car market is so crazy that I'll have to finance the remainder of the balance of a decent used car for my daily 45 minute commute everyday. It's so frustrating!
Just a fyi, you can insure for a dollar amount, no matter what the car is "worth" in their books.
What you describe is a real problem. An old car that runs great is really worth more just because buying another at that price is a real gamble. You might go through a couple at that price before getting a reliable one you like.
The you Joe Biden for the illegal immigrant drive the car that hit you
@@tradermunky1998🤓 You don't say
@@jackcarter8333leave the beer alone. Nothing was mentioned about who the person was that hit him.
Try to find another Prius which you are familiar with already. 2017-2020 prior too the covid out break around the globe. The chip shortage caused issues in quality of chips as well.
GOOD FOR YOU for not dealing with banks and putting your customers in debt !!! The borrower is slave to the lender. Wish there were more ethical salesmen out there like you. Huge respect!
As a diesel mechanic for 18 years now. Semi’s are getting more and more of those stupid sensors as well. Semi trucks quality is becoming more and more crap as well. All vehicles are turning into a bunch of nonsense.
"clusterfuck". Term used by the MILITARY..........fucked up on MANY levels!
Ok, all vehicles are now so overloaded with technology and sensors, etc, that the upkeep on these systems is no longer sustainable unless motor manufacturers are forced to make these sensors more reliable. While it's great to have all these technologies in cars, etc, we may have gone too far in expecting to be so well protected without paying to maintain our current level of protection. Cars are just too expensive now.
Couldn't agree more. All cars regardless of make are now loaded with sensors and modules, and it is those components that usually cause issues. No modern car will be able to last as long as many of the older cars out there.
And, "horse and buggy" prices are rising too! You just can't get a break!
@@TheOzthewiz A good workhorse will still run you $5k and buggies aren't cheaply built either.
You are so right and it is going to get far worse. Catch the Stelentis presentation of the future Ram Revolution total electric. It’s not a concept but a coming vehicle. Super high tech and covered with sensors. Only thing it didn’t give up was a price but I am so sure it is North of a hundred grand. This is driving the coming car/truck market and they are all going to be like taking out a mortgage. Look for financing of15 years to jump start sales.
It's cheaper to buy a used car off a private seller and sink thousands into it than buy new.
Same as a boat! Or a house!
Especially when it's a 1 owner that really kept up on the maintenance. Even if you put 2-3 thousand in, it can be well worth it especially when said and and done can be a fraction of the cost of a new one that has much better, simpler build quality
Ummm no shit. This isn’t profound it’s literally basic knowledge. A USED CAR IS CHEAPER THAN A NEW CAR?!?! Wow!!!! So smart!!!
Auto industry is insane. Nowadays you pay more for uglier and slower cars which are lower in quality
My wife owns a 2015 RAV4. I own a 2014 Camry and a 2018 GX460. All paid for. All well maintained and garage kept. I have ZERO plans on selling and buying cars for the near. No debt, no car payments or no withdrawing cash out of my account to put into caos car market. Thanks for the video.
Dude, that GMC tailgate issue is huge. It’ll be a problem for the driver, not just the guy behind you. F that, gotta trust your tailgate!
I see a lot of sellers going to auctions and buying cars for a low price then turn around and try to sell them for 5 times more than what they are worth. Nobody will pay those prices. It's pure greed ..
yep
If nobody pays those prices, they should try to sell the cars for 4 times than they're worth. If still won't sell, make it 3 times....... and keep doing it until it sells.
@@JasbirSingh-zj1fgyeah but most people been holding out for a few years already. You don’t really have a choice unless you get a car from family or friends for decent price. You can wait it out 20 years but doesn’t mean much when you have to go to work tomorrow and your car took a dump
Wait ... Sellers go to an auction, buy cars and then try to sell them for a profit? Isn't that the entire purpose of an auction?
I agree with you on Ford losing customers, I'm one of them. I bought a new 2020 Escape Titanium Hybrid with AWD, all but two options, and like clockwork every 5,000 miles it was towed to the dealership for a two-to-three-week repair, the final straw was when a snowstorm blew through my area, and it lock itself out of AWD and blew a tire ($330 repair out of pocket), I can't tell you how many times I got stranded on the side of the road waiting for road side assistance that never came. after 14 months I sold it, as everyone in my family was afraid of the car breaking down or having some type of serious issue to leave them stranded. I love ford products in the past, but I won't buy another new Ford product again.
FORD = Found On Roadside Dead
FORD= Fix Or Repair Daily
That's horrible, I wondered what happened. My 2012 Ford Fusion, built in Mexico, still runs like a champ. I've never had a break down and it still runs like new. Ford needs to research what was happening when my car was manufactured!
@@spunkyb5249 my 2001 Focus is running perfectly, as is my spouse's 2012 Escape, and my 2001 Escape with a 5 speed, I've owned the focus since new and it's been flawless, never left me stranded, bought the 2001 Escape from down south and it's a blast to drive. My 2020 was bought at the height of covid (in october of 2020) and you could tell the quality went downhill, we had a 2014 Escape we traded for the 2020, I'm glad we did, as those are notorious for engine and transmission failures. Seems like the quality at ford went down during the 2012 / 2013 model refreshes when they sourced a lot of their models from their European line ups (Mondeo/Fusion, Escape/Kuga, Focus MK3+)
Thats ALL newer vehicles 🤷♂️
The more that the manufacturers farm out their parts and components, the more problems they are going to experience. In the days that the car companies made almost everything in house they had a better eye on quality.
LMAO the reason companies (GM being an excellent example) made their own parts was to control the engineered life cycle so the whole car would turn to shit in a pre determined time frame.
@@connor_flanigan Yup. I agree. And I have/had alcoholic relatives that built those parts as employees of AC Delco a major supplier of GM parts.
That’s the problem nobody talking about
All of the car manufacturers are in a race to the bottom when it comes to quality!
At Hyundai/Kia, the workers have BOTH eyes closed when manufacturing THEIR engines!
Whats funny is they keep adding "features" that most people dont need or want and price people out of purchasing. While over seas these same companies still make simple economical cars and trucks that are reliable.
It’s the laws the government has passed that make it illegal to make those simple cars
You are correct, but also overseas those cars with less features cost more than the full featured vehicles available for sale in America.
They know a lot of Americans are stupid and obsessed with status symbols and they’ll keep paying obscene prices to impress the neighborhood.
Just finished doing my front brakes and rotors. Doing back brakes and drums tomorrow. Did front struts. Doing it all myself. Saving so much Doing it all myself.
AND, the beauty of doing THESE wear and tear replacements is you DON'T NEED $10k scan tools!
@TheOzthewiz honestly. I'm enjoying working on it. I used to work on cars before I became a nurse. Old corolla worth 86k miles. 1998. My grandma did not drive it much. But a car sitting around isn't good either.
I just paid $900 of 150k maintenance. It flushed all fluids and replaced them.
Then I paid $1,600 to replace the power steering pump because I started pouring fluid down my driveway.
Then I paid $600 for front breaks/rotors installed.
My SUV was in the shop for 3days.
I got quoted for a timing chain too.
$3,600 with labor or 9k with labor for a new engine.
Vehicles are insanely expensive to maintain.
With modern technology and advancements, it is a shame that quality is less, repairs are more frequent and costs for everything just sky rocket. Keep the old reliable if you have one or can find one.
At least Toyota is stepping up to resolve issues with cars that are 20 years old. I ditched Ford for good in 2001. Badly constructed vehicles and no accountability from the dealer or the manufacturer. When I asked them to make good on a lemon, Ford mailed me a “sorry you are angry” card.
Haven’t looked back.
Sorry to see that it’s only gotten worse.
Yeah Toyota did the same with me. I bought a 2023 Toyota tundra. Had to hire a lawyer and claim lemon law because Toyota of America said hey sorry about your luck deal with the dealership. Dude Toyota blows… but I guess for you it’s ok that they suck because they will fix the suck product they produced lol lol
The problem you describe is compounded by car manufacturers having decided over a decade ago to entice buyers with chip filled gadgets in both the front and rear of the vehicle AND at the same time get cheaper parts for the car's drive train and engine accessories. So fewer and fewer cars will last long without high annual maintenance costs. Not talking oil changes, but core vehicle parts.
I would say the quality started dropping 10 to 15 years ago. The electronics go up within a year, if one thing needs to be replaced it's a downward spiral for the entire vehicle.
I've got a new F150, with only 31,000 miles it's on the third engine already. The first engine blew at 1,315 miles, the second engine lasted until 30,925 miles. That one burned a hole in #3 piston and valve. The dealer never figured out why. So far the truck has been down a total of over 8 months, Ford does not care, they flatly refused to even give me a loaner while the truck was down. I had to buy another car to drive because my brand new truck was just over a month old with 1,300 miles, it took them 6 months just to get the engine from Ford and to get it installed. It now has 500 miles on the third engine, I have to drive it 2,000 miles in March for a trip, I'm literally hoping it makes it without blowing the engine again.
I am still driving my 1993 Roadmaster, lots of room, it does not break, parts are very cheap, insurance is 25 bucks a months.
Quality is not the only thing going on. The Government is mandating more and more components on cars in the name of safety and fuel economy, but each new sensor or system is a potential point of failure. Further, some of these small components are so integrated to the drivetrain that the failure of a $10 sensor can stop your car from running and cost $500 or more to replace. Complexity is killing cars, not just quality.
Obama's fuel restrictions has killed the industry.
I think that Ford is panicking about losing significant market share during the electrification phase. Their solution to that is to move into a premium segment of the market with a lot more expensive vehicles that are more like toys and luxury than anything else. It seems to me like this is the strategy, and if it is, they will fail miserably, and they will probably go out of business, or just become a very unimportant competitor kinda like Stelantis group. And you are completely correct about the quality. Another reason why they will lose significant market share. It’s the only company that managed to piss off everyone. Customers, dealers, workers, etc.. lol. Nice job Ford!
Moral fortitude or lack of it is what is killing “humanity” if you can even call it that. So many have sold their souls for unimportant materials or someone’s death or the love of another is disturbing
Fun fact: a great baseball player, Marquis Grissom, was named after the Grand Marquis. His father worked at the factory that was building them when he was born.
My late grandparents had a few Grand Marquis and they were great riding cars.
@@crlaw75 I have one now. 2005. Floats on a cloud . Each of my sons drove it when they got there licenses. If they were going to get in an accident, I wanted to be in a tank. Unfortunately, my middle son did get him one, but all I did was break the headlights in the front, because some lady stopped who wasn’t paying attention when she was on her phone, he rear ended her.
Maar kee btw
@@kobartlett yep. The car is pronounced “mar kee” even though his name is pronounced “mar kees”
could have been Mustang Grissom :)
I've driven an 01 accord every day since 2006, now with 267k miles & dents/scratches on every panel. Am grateful it runs well and doesn't leak after replacing every gasket and seal known to man. I dread the day I need to purchase a vehicle.
I had 2000 Accord, never changed coolant and it broke at 210k miles.
I think during these times, we really need someone to come out with a cheap affordable basic vehicle in the US. We need old school basic bare bones trucks and cars at a low price more now than ever.
So what the scam is now is that all of the dealerships are not only charging you in one handhundred thousand dollars to buy a vehicle , but you get shit$y quality with that is a bonus!!!!!
My dad owns a 2001 Corolla. Has 200k miles on it. Not major issues except wear and tear and peeling paint. I bought 2013 Corolla got to 130k and started seeing major engine problems at 2k a fix, engine mounts costing another 2k.
Thank you for this excellent video. Yes, all the cars with electronic systems have sensors that do go bad overtime. I hate it but the new car prices make the old cars worth fixing. I thank God I have a reputable mechanic shop that is my safety net. Carry On Sir!
You are absolutely right about quality of these cars in the used market. Last few weeks I have skipped Adesa Seattle Auto Auction and have been driving to Portland for a Manheim auction. But quality concerns run rampant. Getting tougher.
I worked in a shop doing brakes and oil changes for about 6 months as a teen. I handle almost all of my own work. Besides Brakes, half shafts, and rust, the only issue I’ve had on my 5 fords has been sensors. That’s it. I wish they could all be gone.
They may be gone in 5yrs. There "was" talk about MAHINDRA TRACTOR of India wanting to buy Ford. Don't know if the negotiations are still ongoing or not!
Bought a Ford five times 😂
Mostly used ones. I have learned to take care of them and don’t mind the little stuff. Even sensors are simple. It’s just the my are what goes bad , not the systems they monitor.
I’m keeping my older cars and fixing as long as I can.
Got my 2012 fusion with 161k miles and have no plan to take on a 700 plus payment. I'd rather save for a house and keep the fusion on the road and not worry about the quality of the new vehicles
If the Fusion is working out for YOU, why on earth would you want to get rid of it! To impress the neighbors with a NEW SHINY object in the driveway? That would be foolish!!!
@@TheOzthewizHe didn’t say he wanted to replace it, he wanted to save for a house.
Depending on the make and model, I will only buy a car that is 2005 or older. They have been putting too much "tech crap" on cars these days.
IRS reporting tax receipts are down record 57%. Because of decline in total hours worked. Most jobs are part time now. So hours have been cut and paychecks are smaller.
I have a 2001 Honda that needs a subframe repair. 210 thousand miles runs great and love the way it handles.
My min on car is to keep it at least 12 years. I have one that is 18 years old. I’m never getting rid of it. I think people are done trading in good cars. Not until new prices get cut in half. These dealers and manufacturers did this to themselves.
People are trippin. I rather have a manufacturer recall than no recall. I give them props for recalling and doing the right thing.
That's not a broken broom handle. Its a Modified Hood Support.
I appreciate you calling out all the manufacturers, including Toyota (no, I'm not a Toyota hater).
Keeping my '94 Camry,some parts are needing replacement but minor stuff,this car is comfortable, very reliable and has half a million kilometers on it and definitely deserves some love as far as replacing some parts. My car is hands down the best highway vehicle for traveling and has never let me down, so many people stop me and say that they once owned a car like mine and wish they still had it! Older Toyota's are amazing works of art.
i COMPLETELY UNDERSTAND YOUR POINT,i HAVE A 05 Explorer, new transmission, 06 Titan new engine, 12 Impala,17 Murano all paid off and keeping them!
where is your business located, will travel for good autos
I have an old mini van and I rather spend 1-3 grand a year in repairs than to spend 6-9 thousand on new car payments per year. Repairs do suck, but it's 2-3 or even 4 times cheaper for me to stick with my old Van than to get a new one. Prices are just too high to justify the purchase. I won't get a new Van until the repair prices per year get close or over the payment price per year of a new one.
I know people say Toyotas quality is slipping which I do agree to a degree. I have had a 2009 Corolla, 2016 Corolla LE and now I have a 2017 Corolla SE with a little over 120k miles and thankfully no issues with the fance adaptive cruise or anything g electronic on either the 2016 or the 2017. The 2009 blew an alternator and that was it. I have had very good luck with these cars.
Before this I had a 2010 Chevrolet Cobalt that tested my will to live. Head gasket blew at 70k miles, timing chain was stretched. I had to ditch that sucker!
I have been buying Fords since 2007. 4 new, 3 used and have not had any issues with any of them. Not even a burned out light bulb. I have had more issues with the GM products I have owned since 2007. Three Cadillacs.
I bought a 98 chevy k3500 4x4 and I went that direction because this dude gives us valuable insight. Appreciate your sharing your skill and knowledge.
I don't think car companies were recalling 20 year old cars back in the 90s. If you are still driving your 20 year old car that's a good car. In 3 years mine will be 20.
My car is 95 years old and still runs. It's a model A.
Just wanted to add, in Charlotte 70% of stolen cars are Kia's due to some tic tok challenge. Something about easy to hotwire those cars with a usb.
I've been searching for the past few months. All the used vehicles in my area have had at least 3 owners. Plus anything under 100k miles is around $20k and above. Junker mustangs with like 7 owners, and 150k miles listed for like $10k. With the used interest rate hovering around 15%, your only option in the used market is to get screwed by the dealer and the bank. I'm just spending my savings for a down payment on repairing my car instead.
You do not want a real new vehicle with 2 or more owners, there could be something wrong with it…
@@toddprater14 definitely. And the cars with 1 owner just don't exist in my area. They are all gone or ridiculously overpriced 2-3 year old models.
@@sethharrison2284 I bought my 2010sierra Denali in 2018 it just turned 8 years old… it had 1 owner with 75k on it … when I look at like 2018’s ( cause I don’t like the 19-present trucks) if it has more than 1 owner I’m not interested - mainly because they had issues with the new 8 speed. if I see a 15-18’ with more than 1 Owner I think it was a Chevy shake truck and 2 owners got rid of it.. I buy used with 1 owner only…
@@sethharrison2284 honestly id suggest looking into buying new, from a reliable brand. the interest rate makes the difference, and dealerships cant push the markups like they used to. most important thing is be willing to walk away from a bad deal or scammy addons
Car manufacturers have discovered that building appliances is WAY more profitable than building "classic" pieces of equipment that are designed and built to be repaired and maintained. The problem with newer cars is not that the technology is worse or the manufacturing process has declined, way on the contrary. The problem is new cars are DESIGNED not to be repairable and not to be easily maintainable. Things that can be simplified are actually complicated on purpose. Problems that did not exist are "solved" by adding tons of "features" nobody asked for that make the cars more expensive and more difficult to maintain. And that greed and abuse from the Big Manufacturers have been embraced and made worse by Big Government that wants to profit from the artificially hot "consumption" and at the same time, benefit from the fact that the modern cars-as-appliances are more controllable, more trackable, and eventually will be only available to a small minority, which (I believe) is the end goal.
As an automotive Plebe, this channel is a huge help to me. Much respect!
Until they bring back quality and dependability, I think people will sit and wait! 7-to-8-hundred-dollar car payment buys a lot of parts that most can figure out with UA-cam how to fix!
That Grand Marquis (Mar-KEE) you have at 2:48 is probably one of the best cars worth repairing. I have one with 497,000 miles. Based on what you stated in this video it must run at least that much longer. GREAT VIDEO!
Ex car dealer parts guy....now working in IT...2004 frontier with the 4 cyl, and a backup 98 323i bmw as my fun weekender. Who needs anything else..thank you!
I totally agree, if it weren’t for the prices I would have replaced my 25 year old Toyota van. Instead I put new brakes, struts, and tires on it.
The Maverick was top on my list, but now it’s not.
Grand Marquis is a French term properly pronounced as Grand Markee ! I'm a Franco American and know that.
Markee !!
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I’m pretty sure they know this and were just joking around.
Who cares?
They were making fun of it because its a piece of junk.
The airbag recall is a rolling one that’s going to be happening across almost every brand of vehicle. The airbags in question can corrode over the years and explode. They know they won’t for at least five years on average, and the company that made them quit after the largest recall ever about 10 years ago. Due to the only other supplier not being able to produce enough, almost all car brands put the other ones in new cars at the time and are rolling out recalls as they hit their period when they could explode.
I got my recall letter in the mail 6 months ago. My Chevy is a 2015 model and the dealership said there isn’t a FIX yet.
Is my vehicle safe to drive?
The recall said it could send projectiles that could cause severe harm and even death.
That’s freaky!!!
@@seadragon1456 I’m not an expert on it but I know if you’re in saltier warm areas like a southern coast in can corrode the housing on it. Look up Takata airbags for much better details. It should be safe. They’re rolling out the recalls based on average time limits of the corrosion as far as I know. I think they’re trying to put a conservative buffer in on that timeframe. I had a mustang that was 9 months on recall at the time. I ended up trading it in with them aware of the recall.
I've always considered auction cars as problematic and not taken care of by previous owners that dealerships can't sell.
Telling people to stop buying cars is like telling people to stop buying gas. 😂
@@snackler6102 yeah but who wants to take public transportation it sucks
The problem is people like buying new cars even though they can’t afford it. But, as a car dealer said before “ you have to have new cars to get used cars”. I go by the “bad” parts of town and people have nice cars worth more than their house.
I see the same thing - mind blowing!
That’s cause they get free food and rent so they can afford a fancy car
Yeah, because the rest of us working people pay for EVERYTHING else in their crime ridden lives!!
Yeah, cars that YOUR TAXES bought 😂
Make sure the sensor for the sensor sensor gets fixed as well. 😂
I'm still lost/amazed at how people are so brand loyal - like - they sit there in bed thinking: "What will my friends think of me if I deviate from a Ford/Chevy!?!?" - we have way too much identity crisis in this country - I'm lost on why people refuse to simply vote/buy/think/behave in ways that are of their own personal and economic best interests - THEN - they complain at how their own choices fail them - then - start the blame game...
So - While I live in a Mt. Town in Utah - and I am made fun of on a weekly basis for driving a "pos nissan 370z" guess what - 110,000 miles - and perfectly reliable and FUN (God forbid we go around corners at a FUN speed... can't have that!?)...
My conclusion is this: In America - like high school - people consume/purchase/think/behave MORE based upon what is POPULAR over their own personal best interests. You see it everywhere - the left is a great example - they vote for "just" one more DADDY GOVT prOgrAm then complain when that prOgrAm didn't do anything but add to their tax bill.
Emotional purchasing decisions....and voting.... that's the issue...
The price keeps going up on new cars yet the quality seems to be going down a little more each year. My big question is, is the majority dealer service department's trained and qualified to work on these new cars, I am not sure.
I mean, just imagine. I have a 2013 Kia Rio ex-model, and it had 13 miles on the odometer when I bought it!! OK, Today that same vehicle has over 426,500 miles on it and still runs great!!!
$17,405.00 New!!! Worth Every Cent!!!
To put it to you plainly, the cars that you buy today are nothing but overpriced. Junk, all that you're paying for are the obscene. Profit margins that these dealerships are charging you and at the end of the day you're getting nothing for your money. Always by affordable vehicles from the get-go.
Kinda hate selling these $3000, $4000 dollar cars, people expecting brand new like cars, its frustrating
Lets say your car has 6 spark plugs. One of them goes out after a couple months. You cant just replace the one that is bad, you have to replace all 6. Because the computer will tell you that there is a difference between the 6, and give you an error. The computer does this for everything. You can't just repair a single part, you have to repair entire systems.
The sensors.. yeah, I feel that too. How do you know if you are having a critical engine problem, and not a sensor problem? If your sensor has gone out 5, 6, 20 times, how do you trust it now? It is crying wolf constantly so when there is an actual issue, the average driver cant tell. All they know is the check engine light is one. This can lead to people being taken advantage of by mechanics. It can also lead to vehicles not being able to pass any kind of inspection, as a lot of states dont pass you for, lets say, an emissions inspection, if your check engine light is on.
I have a 2000 ford explorer sport. I bought at auction for 4,000 needed a egr valve and new tires and now runs and drives great. Going to keep it and drive it myself.
I figured out where your car lot is but I'll never tell.
Toyota got a few recalls, especially in the 2 first years of a new model. They are very stealthy about it
My 2021 Bronco 2.7L V6 has been perfect 2 plus years now. Gobs of smooth power and 10- spd.shifts buttery smooth. Fingers crossed , hope I have a good one. 😂
I’m changing the oil every 5K with full synthetic in a 2017 F150. Hope that helps (it does @ 10k a year). A 2018 Toy IM has 175K and gets most of the miles
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I work in quality assurance for the department of defense. The purpose of this position is to keep the prices to a minimum for the taxpayer by reducing waste, fraud and defects. But there is no process where the people represent ourselves as a customer to keep the cost down by mitigating defects in the automobile manufacturing process. So we just eat the costs
I hope screens dissapear from cars they are dangerous. Give me tactile controls I dont have to look at.
Just did the 350K oil change on my 98 Ranger, and for the first time, it was down 1/2 quart of oil. Watching videos, I think I'll just keep it....
Catapilla got tried of replacing parts because of bad sensors. So they they put two sensors on everything. If one sensor goes out, they replace the sensor. If both sensors show a problem, they'll fix the problem.
There's a Boeing 737MAX engineer reading this, smacking himself in the forehead saying "Why couldn't I have thought of that!"
Ford: Where quality is job....... Not at all..
Trucks are for working class. $50000, there's a lot of money after finance fees. Everybody makes money, but the buyer. Entrance company repair shops the dealer. And ford
Trucks haven't been for working class for over 20 years. Just a buncha urban cowboys that freak out over a single scratch.
my buddy had a 2005 ford crewcab 1 ton diesel truck..older guy,never hard on it..basically never really even used it as a truck...he kept it well serviced...well, the head gasket went ..truck only had 85,000 miles..barely an miles for how long he had it..cost him $12,000 for repairs...then 2000 miles later some of the injectors that were just replaced with the head gasket went out..cost him another $3500..he ended up trading the truck in and just purchased a new 2023 ford 1 ton crewcab gas engine in november 2023.. ...he didnt want another ford diesel..so he drives his new truck back to the dealer for winter tires and asked what a noise was that the truck was making..they told him the transmission was going out...the truck has only 150 miles on it and already needs a new transmission..truck didnt even last 150 miles..insane..he didnt want to tell me cuz im a chevy guy..my 2001 chevy 2500hd crewcab with the 6 litre gas engine..has 255,000 miles..replaced fuel pump,alternator,brakes,front wheel bearing hub,and the tranfer case..shocks..thats all ive replaced on the truck and it still runs and drives great...it needs work though,power steering pump leaks,anti freeze leak coming from somewhere up front,(water pump?)..propbably should replace the ball joints and tie rods at some point..otherwise everthing on the truck is original..
I agree that happened to me. Had a 05 Impala LS v6 for 13 yrs. No issues that cost me over the yrs. due to quality issues I went to Toyota Avalon 2017, $21K, 28K miles, and 2023 Camry TRD, $32K 3K MILES. No issues so far. Great vehicles. No more American junk!
My father has a chevy 1500, and the gate randomly opened when he was backed in at work... he parks in a ramp garage. It scratched the gate pretty well. He has had nothing but problems with the gate. His solution was to take the fuse out. Seems like more technology = more headaches and more things to break.
I would love a High Quality, Low Tech car. I also feel like so many people do not keep up the normal maintenance on cars, so dash light stay on so long and a small issue becomes a large and expensive one.
I have a rule in general that I will not ever. Ever spent more than $25000 for a brand new vehicle? And there is no way in hell that I would give that for a used one simply and plainly. Because you don't know who the scumbag. Was that owned it before you and the unbelievable abuse that they did to it.
To add to the topic of quality, it feels like there issues with EVERYTHING lately, appliances, toys, electronics,,,,, 737's....
Cars are way too complicated and expensive these days. Someone needs to make a bare bones dumb car, and price it accordingly. It would sell like hot cakes
My car is 20 years old! bought it new - bought in october 2003 it is a 2004 Dodge Dakota Crew Cab. Went over 200,000 miles last week. Would love to buy a new one -- but not at the prices today --
I have one also. I rarely drive it. I just had to register it again and it has 342,000 miles on it.
Well you can't buy a new one because they don't make them anymore. Clown.
I'm driving a 20-year-old Chevy Silverado, back when GM used to make them good, and I'm hoping it'll last a bit longer. I don't get how people can trade in a perfectly good vehicle every few years. That's why people in this country are broke.
Tallent in the auction business is when you get the same price without telling the auctioneer "What it has to bring". Most auctioneers cant sell effectively without being told a sell price...
"I needed more space, I needed an SUV' - someone who hasn't heard of a 'van'.
I have a 2018 Ram 1500 (Daily Driver) and a 71 Charger, 71 Satellite and 91 Wrangler. All are tagged and drivable. SOOOOOO easy to work on non-computerized vehicles.
Do you run a junkyard?
Quality seems to be a catch-all phrase. I wish we could have two separate categories for minor issues like maybe air bags or something not hard to fix vs major quality issues like transmission failure, head gasket failure, things having to do with the engine that are a major expense. My focus quality wise is not on the little annoying things that can be fixed, it is on the big, expensive things that people have a hard time coming up with the money for
Every single one of your posts claims dire news for the car market. However, I’m not seeing any drop in prices?
Gone are the days when you could buy a car under MSRP.I have a 03 Towncar, with 118k on it ,wonderful car ,plenty of room,22mpg on the highway.Going to keep her.
recently tried the Costco auto buying service for the first time on 2024 Corolla LE Hybrid ... out the door price included $ 4,500 of dealer add ons over and above MSRP ... dealers suck
And... just like that, mechanics are important again.
Mechanics have always been important. We hate this crap as much as the next guy.
I’m driving my car until the wheels fall off. I have a 2011 VW Golf TDI. It only has 135k on it. As long as I service it properly, it should get to 300k+. Even if I had to spend some money to fix a serious issue, it’s still cheaper than buying a new car.