This will all calm down eventually. There are only 500 FL5’s currently in the US due to the 10,000 plus orders in Japan. They won’t be rare in a year. Congrats on the new ride. Looking forward to your future FL5 videos.
You are right that the market will definitely cool down. California might be one of the markets where there will always be a market adjustment over MSRP sadly just like it was for the FK8
It looks fantastic black on black, but the dealerships are just adding crazy markups on these. I don’t know maybe in a few years the prices will come down, but I doubt it.
I love the CTR, so I cannot wait for what’s to come with this in terms of mods and possible track days. What’s more exciting for me is how much room it has to haul the kiddos and how functional it is as a daily!
@@hondaman8648 if you’re only talking about just acceleration then the FK8 from a a roll is quicker. Around lap on a circuit track… FL5 will be quicker
Looking forward to you taking this to the track. You have a good amount of experience with the FK8 and would like a true track focused comparison from you. I was interested to see that on the street the fk8 was a bit faster because of the gear ratios but im sure the added rigidity, clearance for larger tires and increased cooling capacity will speak volumes as a track focused car.
WELCOME BACK TO THE CIVIC TYPE R COMMUNITY BROTHA!! 🎉 Found your channel back when you had the fk8 and never unsubscribed to your channel! I can’t wait to see all the new content you make with this car! Congrats! 🍾 🤙🏽
While I agree with you, you’ll never get everyone to agree on the same dollar amount. It will calm down and frankly prices are negotiable if you show to the dealership that you are serious buyer.
That’s what I ran into too brother. I just bought a brand new 2021 VW Jetta GLI Autobahn 7 months back. Wanted a brand new 2022 but they were NO WHERE to be had. I was running into the same thing, I was willing to drive 500 miles to get it and no one would sell me one, nor order one because no dealers could get stock. I ended up calling a VW dealer in Atlanta, and they agreed to sell it to me at MSRP since I was driving so far to get it and because it was last years model. But man I called dealers all the way around me up to 500 miles away and no one would even try to speak to me about a sale out of state. They had a guaranteed sale and they flat out refused. Autotrader was my best friend. For you folks out there trying to buy a car right now. Use auto trader, it works at getting to the information you’ll need to talk these dealers down. It’s rough out there right now in the car market
Congratulations !!! I love the Type Rs, FK8 and FL5 look amazing. I own a Red Focus RS, C63s and an M2 Competition and would love to get a hold of a type R. looks like a fun car to daily drive with an amazing interior and awesome Honda community.
So you talked about all these different prices but you didn't say exactly what you paid we want to know exactly how much you paid tho just curious? I overpaid on mine but I love it.. 21 paid 47k
I don’t really talk about what I pay for anything on my channel. Main reason being that whether it’s for parts or the car itself, prices change and the deal that you might work out will likely be different than mine so it’s all kind of moot.
Dealerships definitely are willing to sell out of state, and registration for an out of state car in California requires a DMV visit, and smog. It will cost you $1500 for open transport from the east coast.
Congrats. Great car, great content. Love it in black, suits it well. Hey, now you can even drive with the windows down! And see! Looking forward to seeing this journey unfold.
Ordered same color as thinking was it blended with the spoiler, antenna on the roof and side mirrors better than all the other colors. Seeing yours confirms my opinion. Good one. Incidentally even have similar ultra Apple watch as you. Ocean band like yours but in the more under the radar color midnight. There the similarities end For I am almost 70 and you are nowhere close! Enjoy.
Hell yeah brother! Glad to have you back with the Type R community. One of the few content creators that I stumbled upon that helped me make the decision to purchase a FK8 last year. Can’t wait to see what you got in store with the FL5. Much love from Hawaii bro 🤙🏽
Michael, Michael, Michael..... You sneaky devil. You are back in the CTR. I'm one of your OG subscribers, I got my FK8 because of your content. (thanks by the way) I'm loving the Supra content. I'm now prepping to get myself in a Supra as well and keeping the FK8. (my bank account is not too happy though). Anyway, totally looking forward to the FL5 content. Keep it up my man!!
The FL5 is GREAT value at msrp or barely over (＄5k max) Not ＄10k-15k+ over. But that's just how the market is. Either have to take the dive or risk missing out.. thing is, if everybody stood their ground, they would have to adjust it... fomo will do that
I don’t disagree with you but you’ll never get everyone to agree to hold out. It’s more than just the new car price. Even used 2021 FK8’s are selling for $10k-$13k over what their new MSRP was with 20k miles on them. Of course this is region specific but I’m sure you understand my point. No Dealership in their right mind will get anywhere closer to MSRP until at least the used car market is WELL below MSRP from new. Great if you can wait… The product cycle for the FL5 might be done by the time you see MSRP (depending on where you live). I just don’t see it happening in places like CA
Hey, Big Congrats to you on your Brand New FL5 2023 Type R. I bought a car from Nevada years ago and drove back to California. I really enjoyed the drive. Me alone with my new car and the road. Bliss .... 👍
ive seen 10k markups on the type r!? how much markup was on this car when you bought it? hopefully no more 2nd gear grind/4th gear lockout and the over heating issues!
Would like to see comparisons from your FK8, pros and cons of the FL5. I still have my FK8(19) and is FBO, tuned. I'm considering on getting an FL5..but my FK8 is "perfection."
Wow congrats on your new Type-R variant!! What a boot space for such type of car and well-balanced exterior and interior! Happy weekend to you and your car☺
Congrats on your new car. Man....I can't wrap my head around this market. It's absolutely ridiculous. I remember buying my ITR new 20 years ago for msrp no questions. This platform was always meant to be a an affordable sport trim and the dealers greed binge the last few years is completely reprehensible. As long as people keep paying premiums, they have no reason to stop🤷♂️
Thank you! And yea I agree with you. Even if you take the new car market it off the equation. To get a decently clean, lowing Mike, used S2000 you’ll be paying what it used to sell for at MSRP 20 years ago
You are lucky man. I am from Canada and I have been waiting for over 18 months as well with a manager in one of the biggest dealership. Now they said they gonna give it to those “VVIP” first, also trying to turn it to a used car so to mark it up…
I don’t really talk about what I pay for anything on my channel. Main reason being that whether it’s for parts or the car itself, prices change and the deal that you might work out will likely be different than mine so it’s all kind of moot.
Man I said it on the forum and I’ll say it here again. In Canada we don’t get black and I love my FL5 in CW but I’d take it in black if I had a choice. It looks so menacing!
I don’t really talk about what I pay for anything on my channel. Main reason being that whether it’s for parts or the car itself, prices change and the deal that you might work out will likely be different than mine so it’s all kind of moot.
You can get it for less than $60k but yeah car market is tough here in CA. I hear that the 2024 will bump up in MSRP closer to $50k. Not sure if that’s true but it if is then paying over right now (within reason of course) may not be too whacky after all.
@@GridZilla They can't just add $6k msrp for the same model today, it'll definitely be a refresh model with probably the best of the best since it'll be Hondas last gas type r
Well Michael…This is your number 2 Fan once again…whispering in your ear like Jimminy Cricket. Welcome back to The Type R Fold My Brother!!! Beautiful Ride Man!!! Read through all of the comments and was amazed by the interest in how much you paid…Well…as we both already know…THAT’S between you and the loansharks Bro!😂 I’m sincerely happy for you Man and pray that The Type R Gods will be most kind and forgiving to you on track days…especially in the cooling department! I’m sure that you and Dr. Drew will be triumphant!😁 When I get my Type R back from the body shop…and finally complete my mods…maybe I’ll track you down for a donut and a cup of Joe…so you can stroll down memory lane…minus the overheating rage issues of course!😂
What’s your opinion on the suspension modes. We all know R is crazy but Is comfort mode super stiff still? I hear conflicting information. I just need to know if comfort is going to be good for daily driving. Or even sport. What’s your take on all 3 modes. Can you compare each mode to the fk8s
So far I'd say the FL5 is stiffer than the FK8 in all modes. Spring rates stayed the same as the fk8 but bushings got a revision. Everyone's tolerance level will be different but comfort is fine for me. I'd say Comfort now feels like sport used to feel in the FK8.
@@GridZilla thanks for the input. Coming from an fk8 myself I can live with that. I’m not sure how well maintained your roads are there either. I’m sure going to 18s and 35 series tire will also help the ride quality slightly.
@@GridZilla I’m excited to get mine. Over on east coast and we are all still waiting for them to be delivered. Congrats on getting yours. Just wanted to make sure my teeth weren’t gonna rattle out of my head. The information on suspension was worrying at times. Some people make it sound like it’s terrible and others were like “comfort is completely fine for daily” so it’s nice to hear my work commute won’t be stupid rough.
I find it weird that the old one is actually faster in a rolling race though, thanks to throttle house review of it. Personally probably gonna pass on this type r even though it looks better than the previous gen imo. I just wish they made it all wheel drive this time around. Golf r definitely ahead of its time when it comes to that with drift mode too.
Really depends on what you’re looking to get out of the car. If Roll Racing is what you’re into then any Type R is a terrible choice. Supra is king for roll racing.
@@GridZilla Definitely agreed, I was hoping it was gonna be faster than the old gen in all aspects since it's at 40k margin now. Still definitely has the best manual in it's class for sure!
This makes me feel good about my boost blue CTR that just barely hit 10k miles. FL5 is cool and i thought about it, but i think its smart to just keep my lovely fk8 and i'm totally happy with it.
@@mvtwf huh? What’s passive aggressive? I don’t like discussing money on any of my videos. You can scroll through every single one of them. I don’t mention pricing on anything. I’m sure someone out there probably paid MSRP for their FL5. Doesn’t matter to me because that’s not likely what most people will pay. So I’ll say it again. Why does it matter? If you want one, try to find the best deal you can and decide on whether it’s worth it to you or not. Simple
@@GridZilla It does matter. Sharing things like this for other enthusiast only empowers everyone else with more information than no information. Can you imagine if everyone never shared what they paid for anything especially things like repair costs for shops etc? People wouldn't know they were getting ripped off etc. Information like this helps the community in a positive way. If you shared what you paid, it would help the community rather than hurt...Not discussing money in any videos yes is your choice but the reasoning why you aren't sharing doesn't make sense, that it doesn't matter...It does though in a significant way just like the example I shared earlier.
I work for a Honda Dealership in Ohio. I’m wondering why they did not do a proper delivery? We sit with our clients and demonstrate all of the functions, such as Apple Car Play, etc. looks like they just tossed you the keys and said good luck…. 😂
I live in Vancouver , here its already ALL SOLD OUT, I called all the honda dealer around B.C . I PAYED 10000+5000 CAD ABOVE MSRP, one of the dealer finally agree to save one for me... mine its gray color. The craziest thing is , lots of others payed $5000-10000 down payment beg dealers put their name on the waiting list, their down payment to dealer just wait the next year or 2-4 years later Type r, each dealer have at least 3-7 these people, and the dealer can't even 100% for sure will get their car, you can imagine how crazy this is just for a honda car. I have no idea why Honda doing this to us, just ship more car in NA how hard that is
I don’t know anyone that has paid that lol but maybe someone out there has. Country wide I’d say your looking at $10k and up. CA I’ve heard anywhere from $10k to $30k
Yeah, going back to an FK8 wayyyy over MSRP used is definitely not the move. Good call there. If did not have an FK8 I would be fully focused on getting an FL5. I don't think this one will overheat as bad. That is such a buzzkill. Anyway, see you around! Maybe we'll meet at a socal vs norcal Type R again.
While I agree with you, you’ll never get everyone to agree on the same dollar amount. It will calm down and frankly prices are negotiable if you show to the dealership that you are serious buyer.
This will all calm down eventually. There are only 500 FL5’s currently in the US due to the 10,000 plus orders in Japan. They won’t be rare in a year. Congrats on the new ride. Looking forward to your future FL5 videos.
You are right that the market will definitely cool down. California might be one of the markets where there will always be a market adjustment over MSRP sadly just like it was for the FK8
Maybe not 'rare' but they're never easy to get
isn't California going to stop selling gas vehicles pretty soon?
@@samsmith4067 2035
The old type r has a markup don't get your hopes up 😂
Congrats on the new FL5! I just bought my first FK8 today, now I see what everyone’s talking about this amazing car.
Congrats! You can’t go wrong with the FK8
so glad to see you back in a Type R man. Congrats!!
Thank you! Good to be back
Congratulations brother!
Thank you!
Crazy times where 60k barely gets you a CTR. People are crazy for instant gratification these days. Same for the people paying 5k markup for Si’s.
It’s a different world for sure
@@GridZilla mike you lease?
@@PremiumUserUltra hell no… bought it.
What was the price you pay for your FL5?
It sucks!
Subscribed! Uff that FL5 is gorgeous...cant wait for the upcoming content!
Thank you!
Dealers are doing 20k markup on those
Yeah mostly $20k-$29k markup. You can negotiate down from there.
loving the content man, picking up my fl5 next week. praying they fix the overheating issues
You and me both brother. Congrats!
I got my type R in Texas and drove it all the way to NYC 🤣🤣 27 hour drive
This is the way 👊🏽
Congrats. I'm waiting on my Rallye Red to come in. I put the deposit down 3 weeks ago. Great video.
I’ve seen the Rallye red! That’s a sweet color on that car. Congrats! And thank you!
It looks fantastic black on black, but the dealerships are just adding crazy markups on these. I don’t know maybe in a few years the prices will come down, but I doubt it.
They’ll come down a bit. If you’re serious enough you can negotiate with the dealers now
I love the CTR, so I cannot wait for what’s to come with this in terms of mods and possible track days. What’s more exciting for me is how much room it has to haul the kiddos and how functional it is as a daily!
Nothing better on the market as an all rounder
Be the same performance wise as an fk8.
@@hondaman8648 how do you figure?
Same engine...
@@hondaman8648 if you’re only talking about just acceleration then the FK8 from a a roll is quicker. Around lap on a circuit track… FL5 will be quicker
Can’t decide what color looks best on the new CTR. I like the optional forged wheels as well.
Love the optional forged wheels! I think the only color I don’t really care for is the Boost Blue even that looks good with some wheels.
Looking forward to you taking this to the track. You have a good amount of experience with the FK8 and would like a true track focused comparison from you. I was interested to see that on the street the fk8 was a bit faster because of the gear ratios but im sure the added rigidity, clearance for larger tires and increased cooling capacity will speak volumes as a track focused car.
Yeah I really think the secret sauce in the FL5 is in the chassis development. Will be exciting for sure
Great video as always. Thank for your honesty and integrity.
Thanks bro 🙏🏽
Welcome back, I'll be waiting for more type r content.
Thank you!
Current owner of your old FK8 checking in! 🤝
❤️👊🏽✋🏽
Black is the best color imo…it blends in with the spoiler as for the other colors just looks like an aftermarket part
Agreed
Was thinking that too! Black is great for this Gen Type R.
@@phw340 my favorite car color. Can’t go wrong!
Congratulations on the new R, from here in 🇬🇧
Thank you 🙌
Found you through FK8 content and stuck with you because I like your style. Excited to get your real opinions on FK8 vs FL5.
Thank you! 🙏🏽
WELCOME BACK TO THE CIVIC TYPE R COMMUNITY BROTHA!! 🎉 Found your channel back when you had the fk8 and never unsubscribed to your channel! I can’t wait to see all the new content you make with this car! Congrats! 🍾 🤙🏽
Thank you! 🙏🏽
People need to stop playing over msrp, dealers are just taking advantage of the consumers. Congrats on the car it is beautiful
While I agree with you, you’ll never get everyone to agree on the same dollar amount. It will calm down and frankly prices are negotiable if you show to the dealership that you are serious buyer.
Congratulations and good luck!! Awesome car.
Thank you!
2 months later the price has dropped out. lol
Somewhat yeah but that was to be expected... $5k-$10K over seems to be about the market now.
What a beauty 😮congratulations buddy !!!
Thank you!
That’s what I ran into too brother. I just bought a brand new 2021 VW Jetta GLI Autobahn 7 months back. Wanted a brand new 2022 but they were NO WHERE to be had. I was running into the same thing, I was willing to drive 500 miles to get it and no one would sell me one, nor order one because no dealers could get stock. I ended up calling a VW dealer in Atlanta, and they agreed to sell it to me at MSRP since I was driving so far to get it and because it was last years model. But man I called dealers all the way around me up to 500 miles away and no one would even try to speak to me about a sale out of state. They had a guaranteed sale and they flat out refused. Autotrader was my best friend. For you folks out there trying to buy a car right now. Use auto trader, it works at getting to the information you’ll need to talk these dealers down. It’s rough out there right now in the car market
Glad you got her dude.
No doubt it rough out there. Persistence helps. Glad you found your ride!
I did the exact trip you made in the opposite direction. I bought mine In norther Cali drove it back to So-cal
Nice! Congrats brother!
Congratulations !!! I love the Type Rs, FK8 and FL5 look amazing. I own a Red Focus RS, C63s and an M2 Competition and would love to get a hold of a type R. looks like a fun car to daily drive with an amazing interior and awesome Honda community.
That’s a nice stable you got there! It’s the best all round car I’ve ever owned
Welcome back big homie!!
Thank you!
So you talked about all these different prices but you didn't say exactly what you paid we want to know exactly how much you paid tho just curious? I overpaid on mine but I love it.. 21 paid 47k
I don’t really talk about what I pay for anything on my channel. Main reason being that whether it’s for parts or the car itself, prices change and the deal that you might work out will likely be different than mine so it’s all kind of moot.
Subscribed back to your channel for the new type r. Congrats!!!🎉
Welcome back!
Dealerships definitely are willing to sell out of state, and registration for an out of state car in California requires a DMV visit, and smog. It will cost you $1500 for open transport from the east coast.
During my search I didn’t find one but I think that was mainly due to the Type Rs hitting the west coast first
welcome back sir
Thank you!
Congrats. Great car, great content. Love it in black, suits it well.
Hey, now you can even drive with the windows down! And see!
Looking forward to seeing this journey unfold.
Thank you! 🙏🏽
Congrats 👏 what's the markup? Where u at?
Most places are $20-$29k over MSRP
All of that red interior would make me want to change my shoes before getting in, each and every time.
You’re not lying! I love the red carpet but maaaaaaan is going to be tough to keep clean
Ordered same color as thinking was it blended with the spoiler, antenna on the roof and side mirrors better than all the other colors. Seeing yours confirms my opinion. Good one. Incidentally even have similar ultra Apple watch as you. Ocean band like yours
but in the more under the radar color midnight. There the similarities end For I am almost 70 and you are nowhere close! Enjoy.
Thank you!
most socal dealers are firm at 15k markup
Or higher
lil over 60k for the new R doesnt sound bad at all when 2021 type R’s are 50!
@@Eggsplanepls exactly my point… although even that feels a bit high for me 🤣🤣🤣
Hell yeah brother! Glad to have you back with the Type R community. One of the few content creators that I stumbled upon that helped me make the decision to purchase a FK8 last year. Can’t wait to see what you got in store with the FL5. Much love from Hawaii bro 🤙🏽
Thank you! 🙏🏽
Michael, Michael, Michael..... You sneaky devil. You are back in the CTR. I'm one of your OG subscribers, I got my FK8 because of your content. (thanks by the way) I'm loving the Supra content. I'm now prepping to get myself in a Supra as well and keeping the FK8. (my bank account is not too happy though). Anyway, totally looking forward to the FL5 content. Keep it up my man!!
Ha! Love it brother.! Thank you for sticking with me. Supra+Type R=best combo ever
Tons of people have talked about the Apple Carplay....what I really want to know is how much was the markup?
Why does it matter?
Nice CTR , Reminds me of my 2018 Cbp Type R . Congrats !!
can't wait to see your tack videos and comparing the fl5 to the fk8.
holding off on building my fk8 for now.
How much over MSRP?
Less than $20k over. I don’t really discuss what I pay for anything on my channel. Parts included
@@GridZilla Thanks. Less than $20k over gives me an idea. Enjoy!
Congrats bro, but honestly can’t believe you’re stinking up the car with McDonald’s after just picking it up, just get off and eat real quick 🤦🏻♂️
Lol I knoooooww 😢
The FL5 is GREAT value at msrp or barely over (＄5k max) Not ＄10k-15k+ over. But that's just how the market is. Either have to take the dive or risk missing out.. thing is, if everybody stood their ground, they would have to adjust it... fomo will do that
I don’t disagree with you but you’ll never get everyone to agree to hold out. It’s more than just the new car price. Even used 2021 FK8’s are selling for $10k-$13k over what their new MSRP was with 20k miles on them. Of course this is region specific but I’m sure you understand my point. No Dealership in their right mind will get anywhere closer to MSRP until at least the used car market is WELL below MSRP from new. Great if you can wait… The product cycle for the FL5 might be done by the time you see MSRP (depending on where you live). I just don’t see it happening in places like CA
Can't wait to see ur videos on what you do to the new type r!
Congrats. Just found your channel and will join you in the FL5 journey. I've had mine for a week and lovin it!
Nice! Congrats to you too!
Hey, Big Congrats to you on your Brand New FL5 2023 Type R. I bought a car from Nevada years ago and drove back to California. I really enjoyed the drive. Me alone with my new car and the road. Bliss .... 👍
Truth!
You really did your research well.
What car did you but for your wife to drive, as she'd be feeling left out without any cars?
My wife’s cars change almost as often as mine do. Lol she’s in a 23 Acura MDX at the moment
Awesome dude! I'm one of those who stuck it out lol. Looking forward to the fl5 content!
I appreciate you!
ive seen 10k markups on the type r!? how much markup was on this car when you bought it? hopefully no more 2nd gear grind/4th gear lockout and the over heating issues!
Only time will tell!
Would like to see comparisons from your FK8, pros and cons of the FL5.
I still have my FK8(19) and is FBO, tuned. I'm considering on getting an FL5..but my FK8 is "perfection."
That will definitely be a discussion on a video. FK8 vs FL5
Looking forward to watching this build bro.
Thank you Gus!
Wow congrats on your new Type-R variant!!
What a boot space for such type of car and well-balanced exterior and interior!
Happy weekend to you and your car☺
Thank you!
I Think You Made The Right Choice On Getting The Black!!!!!! Fuck That Car Looks Great!!!!!!!
Yeah I love it
Congrats on your new car. Man....I can't wrap my head around this market. It's absolutely ridiculous. I remember buying my ITR new 20 years ago for msrp no questions. This platform was always meant to be a an affordable sport trim and the dealers greed binge the last few years is completely reprehensible. As long as people keep paying premiums, they have no reason to stop🤷♂️
Thank you! And yea I agree with you. Even if you take the new car market it off the equation. To get a decently clean, lowing Mike, used S2000 you’ll be paying what it used to sell for at MSRP 20 years ago
I have a M2 thinking about changing to fl5 for some JDM tastes
That's a tough switch bro but for sure the FL5 is a great platform.
Man congrats. What you have can only be achieved in my dreams. A nice house, a Supra, and an FL5. You are truly blessed.
Bro for real I’m thankful everyday 🙏🏽
Congratulations on that beauty
Thank you!
Congrats man
Thank you!
Where is the car in the videoo???????
More towards the end. You'll get more on the next video I promise :)
Nice purchase dude 👍🏼. Great call on the Black
Thank you!
Will be interesting to see how this thing handles ECTs on the track, provided you decide to track it.
Ohhh it will be tracked!
Love that turtle I want one!! Where u get it from do u remember
Ohhh man it’s been years now I don’t remember! Lol
You are lucky man. I am from Canada and I have been waiting for over 18 months as well with a manager in one of the biggest dealership. Now they said they gonna give it to those “VVIP” first, also trying to turn it to a used car so to mark it up…
That’s kind of why I never did a deposit anywhere because the whole car industry was delayed building cars. It Wii be worth it when you get it.
Looks awesome, can't wait to get one!
Did you say how much you paid?
I don’t really talk about what I pay for anything on my channel. Main reason being that whether it’s for parts or the car itself, prices change and the deal that you might work out will likely be different than mine so it’s all kind of moot.
Nice! Can't wait to see your opinions of the FL5 on track. Finger's crossed for no overheating!!!
I suspect it’s still there but a lot better
@@GridZilla I hope it's just basic track cooling mods rather than the crazy stuff needed to keep the FK8 happy
@@kitwilliams117 me too 🤞🏽 only one way to find out!
Awesome! Looking forward to future videos. Enjoy your new ride👍🏻🍻
Man I said it on the forum and I’ll say it here again. In Canada we don’t get black and I love my FL5 in CW but I’d take it in black if I had a choice. It looks so menacing!
Agreed! I’m partial to the black
just tell us how much you paid
I don’t really talk about what I pay for anything on my channel. Main reason being that whether it’s for parts or the car itself, prices change and the deal that you might work out will likely be different than mine so it’s all kind of moot.
Knew this was coming! Congrats!
Glad to see you here again with the Type R bro 🎊 😅
Thank you!
No markup?
I definitely paid markup but I found the best deal I could and I’m happy with it
Nice ride, congrats on the car. In California especially i doubt you can get one less than $60K until 2024. Some places were charging up to $70K…
You can get it for less than $60k but yeah car market is tough here in CA. I hear that the 2024 will bump up in MSRP closer to $50k. Not sure if that’s true but it if is then paying over right now (within reason of course) may not be too whacky after all.
@@GridZilla They can't just add $6k msrp for the same model today, it'll definitely be a refresh model with probably the best of the best since it'll be Hondas last gas type r
Does the black paint make the black wing more tolerable?
My first Type R was also black and I never minded the contrast on any other colored FL5
Well Michael…This is your number 2 Fan once again…whispering in your ear like Jimminy Cricket. Welcome back to The Type R Fold My Brother!!! Beautiful Ride Man!!! Read through all of the comments and was amazed by the interest in how much you paid…Well…as we both already know…THAT’S between you and the loansharks Bro!😂 I’m sincerely happy for you Man and pray that The Type R Gods will be most kind and forgiving to you on track days…especially in the cooling department! I’m sure that you and Dr. Drew will be triumphant!😁 When I get my Type R back from the body shop…and finally complete my mods…maybe I’ll track you down for a donut and a cup of Joe…so you can stroll down memory lane…minus the overheating rage issues of course!😂
Lol always appreciate you brother!
I’m buying local. I got a dealership 4 miles from my house. I hope I can get one from them and get the service there for the rest of its life.
Best way to do it if you can
Just came across your channel and thoroughly enjoyed the whole video man. Solid content and well spoken. Subbed.
Thank you!
What’s your opinion on the suspension modes. We all know R is crazy but Is comfort mode super stiff still? I hear conflicting information. I just need to know if comfort is going to be good for daily driving. Or even sport. What’s your take on all 3 modes. Can you compare each mode to the fk8s
So far I'd say the FL5 is stiffer than the FK8 in all modes. Spring rates stayed the same as the fk8 but bushings got a revision. Everyone's tolerance level will be different but comfort is fine for me. I'd say Comfort now feels like sport used to feel in the FK8.
@@GridZilla thanks for the input. Coming from an fk8 myself I can live with that. I’m not sure how well maintained your roads are there either. I’m sure going to 18s and 35 series tire will also help the ride quality slightly.
@@ElusiveAura yes for sure 18’s will help. I actually like the comfort mode and can see it as a soft track setting
@@GridZilla I’m excited to get mine. Over on east coast and we are all still waiting for them to be delivered. Congrats on getting yours. Just wanted to make sure my teeth weren’t gonna rattle out of my head. The information on suspension was worrying at times. Some people make it sound like it’s terrible and others were like “comfort is completely fine for daily” so it’s nice to hear my work commute won’t be stupid rough.
I find it weird that the old one is actually faster in a rolling race though, thanks to throttle house review of it. Personally probably gonna pass on this type r even though it looks better than the previous gen imo. I just wish they made it all wheel drive this time around. Golf r definitely ahead of its time when it comes to that with drift mode too.
Really depends on what you’re looking to get out of the car. If Roll Racing is what you’re into then any Type R is a terrible choice. Supra is king for roll racing.
@@GridZilla Definitely agreed, I was hoping it was gonna be faster than the old gen in all aspects since it's at 40k margin now. Still definitely has the best manual in it's class for sure!
Welcome back to the R club!
Thank you!
It's gorgeous, gratz!
Thank you!
This makes me feel good about my boost blue CTR that just barely hit 10k miles. FL5 is cool and i thought about it, but i think its smart to just keep my lovely fk8 and i'm totally happy with it.
The FK8 is still a formidable force to be reckoned with. If I didn’t already own one I would’ve bought one
how come ppl are afraid to tell how much over msrp they paid
Why do you care so much? Is it your money?
@@GridZilla bc it gives me an idea of how much I’d be paying if I bought one with my money.
@@GridZilla good luck with your channel being passive aggressive with your viewers tho 👍🏿 cheers
@@mvtwf huh? What’s passive aggressive? I don’t like discussing money on any of my videos. You can scroll through every single one of them. I don’t mention pricing on anything. I’m sure someone out there probably paid MSRP for their FL5. Doesn’t matter to me because that’s not likely what most people will pay. So I’ll say it again. Why does it matter? If you want one, try to find the best deal you can and decide on whether it’s worth it to you or not. Simple
@@GridZilla It does matter. Sharing things like this for other enthusiast only empowers everyone else with more information than no information. Can you imagine if everyone never shared what they paid for anything especially things like repair costs for shops etc? People wouldn't know they were getting ripped off etc. Information like this helps the community in a positive way. If you shared what you paid, it would help the community rather than hurt...Not discussing money in any videos yes is your choice but the reasoning why you aren't sharing doesn't make sense, that it doesn't matter...It does though in a significant way just like the example I shared earlier.
Havent been on here for a minute, the FK8 is gone?!
Looooong gone. For about a year and a half now.
I work for a Honda Dealership in Ohio. I’m wondering why they did not do a proper delivery? We sit with our clients and demonstrate all of the functions, such as Apple Car Play, etc. looks like they just tossed you the keys and said good luck…. 😂
I specifically asked NOT to be shown everything. I like poking around and learning the car myself.
Why didn’t you just put your backpack in the front seat?
I did eventually off camera 😁
I live in Vancouver , here its already ALL SOLD OUT, I called all the honda dealer around B.C . I PAYED 10000+5000 CAD ABOVE MSRP, one of the dealer finally agree to save one for me... mine its gray color. The craziest thing is , lots of others payed $5000-10000 down payment beg dealers put their name on the waiting list, their down payment to dealer just wait the next year or 2-4 years later Type r, each dealer have at least 3-7 these people, and the dealer can't even 100% for sure will get their car, you can imagine how crazy this is just for a honda car. I have no idea why Honda doing this to us, just ship more car in NA how hard that is
That’s crazy! Not sure goes much control Honda has. Production works wide for everyone is still way down
What’s is the mark up on these, seen some ppl pay 70-80k Wdf
I don’t know anyone that has paid that lol but maybe someone out there has. Country wide I’d say your looking at $10k and up.
CA I’ve heard anywhere from $10k to $30k
Back in the Hondas again 😊
Yesssss!
Wireless apple car play is wack, sure convenient, but the sound quality difference is night and day from regular carplay
Yeah the sound quality isn’t as good but for need the convenience makes up for it.
love all your videos!
Thank you!
how much you pay for this civic?
Under $60k
@@GridZilla YOU THINK 54K IS A GOOD DEAL?
@@dopeloyal right now? Yes
I wonder how much was the mark up
Under $60k
@@GridZilla that’s ok by today’s standards
Yeah, going back to an FK8 wayyyy over MSRP used is definitely not the move. Good call there. If did not have an FK8 I would be fully focused on getting an FL5. I don't think this one will overheat as bad. That is such a buzzkill. Anyway, see you around! Maybe we'll meet at a socal vs norcal Type R again.
I’m hopeful on the FL5 being AT LEAST a better starting point over heating wise but I still suspect it will need some help from the after market
So exactly how much over msrp did you end up paying?
Under $60k selling price
Congratulations bro
Thank you!
@@GridZilla Happy to see going back to honda
Wishing that ppl would stop paying over msrp for vehicles.....it's not helping the problem
While I agree with you, you’ll never get everyone to agree on the same dollar amount. It will calm down and frankly prices are negotiable if you show to the dealership that you are serious buyer.