We Create a WW2 Lancaster Action Sequence - Star Wars Style!
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- Опубліковано 7 лют 2025
- We catch up with our pre-production tests and progress for the WW2 Short Film 'A Memory Owed', as seen in previous InCamera episodes. This time we explore the possibilities of combining scale pyrotechnic effects with a motion controlled miniature.
About the short film project:
‘A Memory Owed’ is an emotive story about loss, healing and remembrance set across 1944 and present. In War time, a young (barely an adult) Wireless Operator leaves his home, joins his crew and takes off on his first sortie for the first time. Fast forward 79 years where 90 year old Stanley and his young carer, visit an RAF museum on a day of importance to Stanley, though he isn’t so forthcoming with information as to why.Their generational differences become more and more apparent until they discover a connection through their personal losses. Building on that connection, they go on a journey of remembrance.
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It's so good to see a breakdown of practical effects in a present day environment. Hard to find these days! I'm a CG artist but I believe the best years for VFX was the sweet spot between model effects and CG where the two were integrated
There was a lot of talk and running around in the studio.
But where was the actual result? The finished shot?
I somehow missed that.
@@thekaiser4333 the sunset shot is in there a couple of times and the engine fire shot is in there during the post chat. This was a test shoot so they're not necessarily completed shots. We're focusing on the process more than anything
@InCameraTV Where did you find the model mover? Amazing work as always! Thank you!
You guys are actually better than you think you are. You even create the idea of a massive budget . . how's that! The annoyance of 'real world' elements [sun flare etc] that we feel when watching adds to the realism of our expectations. This one, my little bears, tastes Just Right!
Lighting is 100% the most important thing to selling an effect, and you chaps handle it expertly!
That sunset shot is absolutely incredible!
This is by far the coolest thing I've seen done with models in a very long time. Bring back the old methods of film making like this! They have so much spirit and a soul that can be seen on screen.
Thanks James, very kind.
This project is MAGNIFICENT , truly remarkable . The engine fire " elements " are TERRIFYING ! My Father signed up RCAF directly after graduating high school ( Toronto Canada ). Was an Instrument Tech on Lancaster's .He Loved the aircraft and the aircrews and fellow ground crews . This film when complete is a MUST HAVE for me ( now 62 ) to pas down to my 7 grandsons . Bravo . Ontario Canada .
Thanks John, please follow the links in the description to stay up to date with the films progress. All the best.
I keep thinking about them old time special effects when they tried to set fire to miniatures that were just too small. Fire doesn't scale. The flames looks more at home on a match head rather than a full scale plane.
The fire concieved for this project was definitely art.
Indeed. I feel like it probably shoulda been given a little more airspeed tho or something. Still, this is fairly good for what you can make with a model. One thing for sure is, fire is probably that one thing that can be faked easily to still look quite real; it doesn't have shadows and whatnot, it is the light itself so the lighting of it is probably relatively hard to screw up.
When I was a kid, in the 70’s I built a model of a German Panzer tank, then I used my dads 8mm camera to do stop motion film of the tank moving, also I used fishing line to simulate a model P40 Warhawk attacking the Panzer tank. I used dirt to simulate explosions. It was kinda fun for awhile. There wasn’t much to do as a kid other than making models, messing with the 8mm camera and we had to entertain ourselves
I love that sunset shot as well 😊
I love to see folks, other than the big studios, out there still working and experimenting with the boundaries and advantages of practical effects and keeping the craft alive. We need more of this in the world. Digital is great for many things, but it always works best when combined with real, tangible objects and elements in camera. Nice work. Good luck with the project, and I hope you get the chance to do even bigger ones, ahead.
Practical, in-camera effects STILL stand head and shoulders above CGI. Well done, gentlemen!
The sunset with the big flare is incredibly beautiful. Just... wow
25.55 that shot looks absolutely amazing. I think we often forget that the differnce between ‘practical’ and ‘cgi’ era movie making isnt just the those, but also shot selection, camera movement , and editing.
Some of our favorite effects shots were very often locked off, and quick to cut . This led to a specific feelung which would fall out of favour when cgi allowed prolongued shots and tons of camera movement
People like you who do effects in this way are like Gods to me. Gods. If I could have a do-over, this is what I would have loved to do.
I feel that way when I watch 70's disaster movies where all the sinking ships and burning buildings are like 1:20 scale, I always wonder how much fun it must be to build little film sets and then blow them up or sink them 😅
In the side shot of the fire ignition mixed with the 3D model you can see a second after it lights it goes back up the cooling chamber towards the propeller of the engine just like it would in real life once all the pistons where on fire and shot that fire out of their exhaust in a order like dominos falling. Absolutely fantastic job!
CGI is great and all, but by the time someone has coded it and having enough run time to render it all, it is often quicker and cheaper to shoot a model - it also often looks so much better. This was another great video.
The joy that a I feel when I see that there's a new InCamera video in my feed! Beautiful work guys! I can't wait to see the final product!
Thanks for the great Geek P*rn! Fascinating and inspiring. One suggestion from a military pilot -- fires on 250mph bombers don't billow at all. they follow the high speed airflow around the streamlined contours. There is a great example of a realistic engine fire in "Memphis Belle" that includes the desperate high speed dive that extinguishes the starboard engine fire. Have a look .. and all the best on your worthy project!
Lancaster... we got one of the last two here at the Warplane Heritage Museum in Hamilton. See it almost every single weekend (weather permmiting) as it flies from Hamilton, along the escarpment out to Niagara Falls. Last summer they actually did a full 360 degree circle right over my parents place... we were all sitting out back. The sound when they hit full throttle coming out of the circle.... Beastly! And no more then 300 feet above ground.
That’s funny, I must of seen the other one here in the uk that flew over a car show I was at a few times very low and my eardrums felt like they were gonna burst lol
@@Pixel_Player Yup. You guys have the sister Lancaster over there :) The one here you can buy tickets to fly in... though it costs a good months wage lol but I think would totally be worth it!!
This looks like the coolest job ever. Getting to build huge models with practical effects to use in cool scenes? Dream job for sure.
Lovely to see you folks back on UA-cam. I was hoping your long silence was due to you all being hard at work on a paying job, so it's wonderful to see you posting again.
Love this. The practical FX with models are more convincing than CG.
I found this channel at work and holy shit Im hooked. This type of work inspires me to go out and make shit. Thank you
Seeing how much work goes into a single model shot, like the engine fire, it is no wonder films cost so blinking much to make.
Yup!
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A very interesting video, it's really interesting. That sunset shot is really pretty, it looks convincing. The detail on that model is impressive, and how that detail turned out in the shots is also impressive.
Awesome job and a fantastic making of. I wish modern movies would use more practical effects together with CGI. If you ever get the chance to see Shin Godzilla you would be blown away. It has everything.
Awesome!! It's so cool that people can do this. Bringing what would usually be unseen today to our eyes and minds and of course our hearts. You guys rock.
This was all fabulous stuff guys !!!
Just found this channel and subbed. I love in-camera shots using practical effects.
y'alls work is incredible!
Absolutely love that you use practical effects. Great video and props to you for keeping the art alive.
Need to keep this artwork alive, something charming about these practical effects apposed to CG. Cheaper effects like this is what we need to decentralize the craft of Film production from the Hollywood hive mind
Very cool. So nice to see something not just cgi.
Incredible work, really stunning!
Superb work. Thank you for showing us that models in the cinema are still present and that all films requiring special effects are not only made in front of green screens.
It reminds me of Gerry Anderson's work with the Thunderbirds.
As I am a projectionist by profession, I remain sensitive to film. So , go ahead .... shoot in 35 mm !
I like how the cover of the magazine moved the damaged engine inboard!
Haha well spotted! The beauty of shooting elements like this is the ability to put them where you need them 😉
Absolutely stunning, chaps!
watching the end result is always so amazing! Keep up the great work guys!
Fantastic production. Great to see you supporting Just Jane
I do love this visual special effects from people they love to do it.
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Found your channel as i'm following the production of this film, and this look 'behind the scenes' is fab! I've always found it fascinating to see what goes on behind the camera and 'how its done' etc. Great to see support for Just Jane in here too as i'm a regular visitor to the centre 🙂
Yay! Always good to see what y'all are working on!
Jaw droppingly good - never not amazed by what you guys do ❤
This is fantastic. Cant believe I haven't seen you before seeing as I watch as much VFX stuff as I can.
There's nothing better than combining practical and CG when it's done right. Also great to see some 3ds Max love :)
Welcome!
Marvellous. Combining all the real elements really sells the shot. The Lancaster cruised at around 200mph, so the wind speed maybe should have been higher for the model and fire, but I guess the fan would have blown the fire out more often than it did.
Indeed, all of the featured shots are very much a 'Work in Progress' to show the general idea - the explosion and fire elements can easily be re-timed, warped a little in shape and motion blur added to give the final appropriate look of faster windspeed.
@@InCameraTV Well you should be very proud of the results. The effort shows on the screen.
This is the kind of channel I wanted to start, but for, we'll just say, reasons, I wasn't able to. Glad you guys are exploring a lot of the classic vfx and sfx in the modern day. CG can pretty much do anything now, but is it as fun to learn about how to make a 3d scene, as it is learning how filmmakers solved all of these problems without computers (for the most part - obviously motion control has been a thing since star wars). I'd pose that this is just much more interesting. Note I'm not saying CG is easier or whatever, I'm just saying finding out real-world mechanical solutions to getting something interesting on screen, is far more fun and interesting. Not really a plane guy, or even a WWII enthusiast (although I do like a good WWII movie), but this is making me more interested in the short film.
Good luck and well done.hard work paid off
This channel is absolutely insane
Really nice job! There is one little thing I noticed. When the engine blowup occurs the fireball moves and dissolve in a 45° angle upward instead of a horizontal way as ut would happen in real life around 200mph. I would turn the wing section 45 degree ccw so the front edge of the wing will look downwards and the rear edge upwards and line up the ventillator 45 degree upward and a bit closer to the front edge of the wing. Burnt residue will be blown backwards alongside the wing and not falling down. That woukd give you a more realistic fireball and enginefire effect, moving flames and smoke parallel the wing's top and bottom surface.
They have a full size mockup of a shot up section of a lancaster they did for a movie that they gave to the museum afterwords. It's at a museum in Canada somewhere. But they built like a 1/4 or 1/3 section of a lancaster.
I don't mean like "scale" I mean like a 8-10 foot section of fuselage. A Lancaster that was at the border of new brunswick and nova scotia was moved to a museum where it now rests with another bomber of a different make (halifax) that bombed a city in poland on the same night in different bombing groups. Also my grandfather flew lancasters post ww2 mapping Canada. They would also enforce sovereignty in remote areas of Canada and land dog teams etc. (Official way of claiming land for your country is to trek across it have some presence in it or Denmark or USA or Russia would claim it.) Lancasters are also early cold war spy planes flying along the border of Canada Russia USA etc. Lancasters were passenger planes from prototypes which transported heads of state to transporting people in South America to Australia. They were used for jet testbeds in fuselage to mounting 2 jets engines and retaining 2 regular engines as the first jet powered commercial airliners.
So well done!!!
so cool. you guys really are inspiring to amateur arsonists like my self.
The state of the art for CGI is mind blowing. Yet there's always something, inarticulable that's missing or maybe it's there and shouldn't be. Practicals add "life" to the scenes that cannot be gotten any other way. Del Toro's recent Pinnochio is a good example. You _could_ CGI a "stop motion" effect or produce deeply refined animation but there isn't "life" like there is in actual stop motion. Can't wait to see the film.
Hard agree. Thanks very much.
outstanding work..wow..cheeers
Thank you!
This is the coolest thing!!!
Incredible work! Thanks for sharing!
There are actually two different /32 Lancaster kits available . The manufacturers are Border Models and HK Kits. In addition, Wingnut did a 1/32 Lancaster, Dambusters variant. Plastic kits have been used in movies and TV eg Top Gun, The Right Stuff (Monogram B-29) and many Gerry Anderson shows used modified plastic kits.
This is so great! Love to see practical FX done with so much passion. New sub for sure!
Nice to see old-school practical models (which ALWAYS look better than CGI) integrated with modern tech to enhance realism. BTW, the Lanc had propellers, not rotors. Rotors are what's on the top of helicopters.
Haha whoops!
haha . Americans also call brake disks "Rotors" just to spread more confusion ..
@@kittyhawk9707 😂
@@kittyhawk9707 : But one does not normally call propellers rotors. Those who do are in error.
There is also a rotor on the tail of most helicopters.
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Hey InCamera! I would LOVE a breakdown of old in-camera special effects for TV shows like Bewitched or other shows and movies that created "magic" or "witchcraft" entirely in camera!
Thank you for sharing this
Glad to find your channel
Please start making content on UA-cam Again! It's all so powerful!
that patreon spot was amazing 😂
Very creative, and spot-on performed! Sausage side, indeed!
Fascinating stuff. Though I'm primarily a stills photographer, I've always been interested in how SFX shots in films were created. I shall have to see more of your work!
Long live practical effects! Awesome work!
I absolutely love these practical breakdowns, keep it up!
i love your videos so much
Great work!
Excellent I love your show!!!
Beautifully done, keep up the great work.
Absolutely brilliant stuff! Practical effects for the win! And hey, now that you have schematics for a R/C Lancaster next stop is building the entire plane and not just a wing! Come on, you know that would be amazing!
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This is VERY cool guys!
Absolutely amazing
You guys had waaay to much fun shooting this. Invite me next time.
Wonderful, thank you.
Amazing visual effects guys! Love the breakdown of those. Though, if you want accuracy, I'd also revise the plane animations for the final shoot. A plane doesn't simply lower it's left wing without starting a left turn
Thanks!....and roger that, we are very much still in the testing/ proof of concept stage. For the final shots they will have to pass muster with historians and aviation experts...so yeah, lots of things already learnt!
3DSMax!!! I haven’t seen that in 10+ years. Cool.
This was really sweet
welcome back, Lalo Salamanca
Peter Jackson has expressed interest in Dambusters. I really hope he sees this and gets inspired to actually do it. It'd be amazing if ya'll were on that team.
I heard he dropped the idea when he decided he couldn't use the original code word for success.
He didn't want to change history just to please the rabidly politically correct.
As he said "No-one cares that nigger is Latin for black".
I. Love. This. Stuff! Well done gents on another incredible video! Stunning footage achieved! (from one of your humans)
Thank Crikey! Much appreciated chaps 🍿😎
I still like miniatures better than CGI it just looks more organic and better IMO.
We feel that way for a lot of things, but CGI can be amazing too, especially when used in partnership with more traditional techniques. We have equal love and respect for all effects artists, no matter what tools are used :)
Inspiring stuff, congrats
Star Wars and the Death Star attack also leaned heavily on the film '633 Squadron' and the attack on the heavy water plant. There are some videos on YT where they overlaid the Star Wars soundtrack over the 633 Squadron attack.
Absolutely right 👍
Great stuff chaps!
Stunning! :D Freakin' Awesome Sauce! :D
AMAZING stuff 🤩🤩 !!!
Quite convincing!
Wow just wow so cool
Nice one
excellent
awesome! missed you guys
liked, subscribed, hit the bell, burned some incense, sacrificed a puppy to beelzebub, the works!
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Absolutely love your videos, the wing top skin would have gone a lot easier if you had cut panel sections to skin the wing as opposed to trying to do it out of one piece of material.
Indeed it would! However we wanted to cover the wing topside with a single piece because we didn’t want any seams or layer mis-match on that surface area that receive a lot of light.
@@InCameraTV wow thanks for the reply. I get it now you were only using the top surface for the effects elements overlays and not just cutting to the wing as a practical "bigature"
"And absolutely destroying our build."
Japanese model builders on a Godzilla set. "Hold my sake, or my beer."
Have a look at the ‘Map of the Human Heart’ - 1992 with Jason Scott Lee. Dresden bombing.
That is a great movie reference we missed....thank you!