Hey everyone! Due to popular demand (and us forgetting to put it in the description!) Here's the link to where we got the Tie Fighter blueprints! www7a.biglobe.ne.jp/~sf-papercraft/sf/tie-fighter.html
Isn't there vibration up through the dolly wheels and tripod to the camera? Or is that averaged out by the framerate and shutter speed? Edit: great content. You might need to start mentioning your names more often so we become familiar with you guys!
I never realized how good paper models looked when they were bigger. Honestly on camera you cant tell the difference between the original wood and plastic ones vs the paper models used in this vid. Amazing!
Ya, when you see bloated film budgets basically what youre seeing is thievery. They're only using about 3/4ths of that money on the production. The other 30 of 40 million is being pocketed.
All the in-camera trickery really gives you an appreciation to what it took to get cool shots and to make visual effects before the advent of CGI. And that's just setting everything up and getting the shots before the whole "multiple passes to get mattes" thing. The level of ingenuity and dedication to the craft is quite inspiring. I love that you guys are shining a spotlight on all that hard work.
On a lark, I looked into whether or not model railroaders used paper buildings for their backgrounds. And wow... did they! They have stuff ranging from Stencils that you can buy online to Magazine cut-outs. With a little time you can make fantastic buildings. So when I see you with that paper TIE fighter that brings back so many memories and youtube videos. I'm glad you were able to find I .
This is great content, can’t believe this doesn’t have more views! Gonna try this with a T-fighter toy in front of a green screen, don’t know how I’m gonna mount it, but I’m motivated by this video to figure it out !
Seeing your documentation as a kid fourty to thirtyfive years ago would potentially have led to serious damage as falling right from the chair in pure awe!!!! Man, how did we play Star Wars in that time with our tiny models and figures!!!
As a fan of filming, electronics and Star Wars, this was awesome. I realise not everyone will have the same camera setup, but knowing your camera focal length would be nice, especially as you have taken time to explain F stop and ISO settings. Keep up the good work. Very much looking forward to the next vid!
Actually the sound of Ben's Honda rolling down the gravel road with the engine off was the sound of the boulder in Raiders, specifically the rear tire. The TIE fighter is a mix of yes, an elephant, with a car on wet pavement.
ILM threw the original Death Star in the dumpster, where it was picked by a scavenger, sold to an antique shop where it sat outside for years, was used as a garbage can, only to be rescued and restored years later.
Ooo paper models and manual dolly moves! The results look great!! Would have never thought of undercranking, probably a lot better than trying to move the dolly in under 12 parsecs. Quick questions: how hard was it to build a stepper motor? Were the parts hard to find? (P.S. - I am so envious of your studio setup!!!)
Regarding the stepper motor, this isn't too difficult to do. A Nema 17 stepper motor is quite cheap on Ebay and should be amply strong enough to move a lightweight prop such as this. You can get a driver chip (A4988) also cheaply on Ebay. Once connected to the stepper, you just need 1 input for a step pulse and 1 input for direction. There are lots of tutorials on youtube, Instructables and generally on Google.
I just salvaged some stepper motors from a few broken printers for just this sort of thing. It's super easy to make a controller for the to get repeatable movements.
Got so excited watching this in so many ways. Love the BTS and bringing to life our most favourite scenes from these old-school movies. Well done guys, keep up the awesome work!
Absolutely amazing work. Last few months busy with Paper XWing model nearing completion . This Tie Fighter model is next . In camera shows how the original special effects work has been done bij ILM. I would love to see what the Incamera crew would do with the Stop Motion Empire Strikes Back Imperial Walkers on Hoth attack :)
Papercraft is fun.. Years ago I built an 18 inch papercraft ED-209. I had to improvise a substructure made of matting board to the upper portion wouldn't crush the legs, but it turned out great, and still stands.
To avoid perspective distortion when compositing the separate shots, you should shoot with a telephoto lens (at least 150mm on APS-C) - this also requires the motion control system to have an automated focus puller as well.
Really wish the new movies returned to these kind of techniques and that both the stories and characters weren't so awful... Amazing work my friend! Disney could learn a thing from you!
Wow... Great Stuff! Thanks! Just subscribed! At 1:30 ~ Note custom White Neon "Force Field" (where the Millennium Falcon is being pulled into the Death Star) was built by FX Master Larry Albright who built many of the mini-UFOs in Close Encounter and "Lit Up" the Mother Ship with countless pieces of his incredible Neon.
At 20:17 you can see that the Tie Fighter's pitch is oscillating, which is not good. That shot is taken probably Tie Fighter was hanging on the ropes. (Probably because of the air flow generated by the camera and/or the guys themselves. A drawback of working with very low mass miniatures)
I cant believe how good those models look! Great job!!! If I worked on the original SW movie and saw this video I would be freaking out!!! It would be interesting to find out the cost difference of one shot compared to the original (cameras, computers, model making, staff, post production, etc).
This is exactly what I had been looking for. I’ve been trying to film some miniature work but the movement of my miniatures have no weight to the movement. Trying out a low frame rate with low shutter speed might do the trick
I have a goal to make something similar but much more simplified... Much more of a abstract kind of X-Files type UFO that flies overhead... I want to film it as a practical model and chroma key in to simulate that the alien Invader spacecraft is flying overhead as my character is hiding... I will be using everything I've learned from you guys videos to try to create this shot... I still think that your channel is one of the most educational channels on filmmaking that exists on UA-cam
It is clear that lighting is a lot fucking harder than I thought. I'm even more impressed with ILM - had all the same issues but needed to "pull a matte" as well.
I'm very impressed. Like the attention to detail and gear. I REALLY NEED one of those stepper motor control interfaces for a smartphone. Where can I find it?
What ILM did in that first movie was absolutely ground breaking, especially Motion Control which made for minimal matte lines (which were extremely common in space movies of the day). But their first movie wasn't "Star Wars: A New Hope." It was "Star Wars"!! You keep referring to the movie as "A New Hope" but that was absolutely NOT the name of the movie I paid to watch twenty-two times that first summer just to watch how they did it. The Millennium Falcon high-tailing it out of the Death Star is still my very favorite shot. "Star Wars: A New Hope" was George Lucas's disastrous CGI retcon of what was a classic space movie.
I always laugh 😂 at sound design in space movies lol .. the swooshing sounds and laser sound are practical until u realize there’s no sound in space lol... #GreatVideo this was epic af I learned alot
"And now we're going to use this number 2 sledgehammer to knock out this wall and create a shared living space between kitchen and dining, it's going to be a really great place for family..... the number 2 sledgehammer feels really good in the hands and does a good job of hammering sledgely. Ok let's see how it goes..."
Hey guys. I'm a professional CG artist, but I LOVE practical stuff too. I even build scale models as a hobby. If you ever want to perhaps do a collaboration, hit me up!
Guys, can you pick up the pacing of your editing? You can do the voice over of him explaining using camera tape to cut down hard shadows while he is taping. Think you could cut 7 min off the video--drags a bit right now. LOVE YOUR WORK! Impressed you used paper models! This is just a fantastic series so far. Hope to see many more videos and wish you lots of success.
Thank you for the feedback, and we're glad you like the content! Whilst we're just getting started we're finding our feet on what people like and what works well so all feedback is heplpful!
It seems to me that if you had black walls in the studio, instead of white, it'd be easier to keep random light from bouncing around and ending up on your scene.
Subscribed at 8:85. Thank you for pointing out why all my greenscreen work comes out muddled. I’ve been failing to illuminate the greenscreen itself. Well, i Have been working at this on my own my whole life, so yeah i can see fails coming at me. But, hey, this time, thanks for the fix!
Hey everyone! Due to popular demand (and us forgetting to put it in the description!) Here's the link to where we got the Tie Fighter blueprints! www7a.biglobe.ne.jp/~sf-papercraft/sf/tie-fighter.html
Isn't there vibration up through the dolly wheels and tripod to the camera? Or is that averaged out by the framerate and shutter speed? Edit: great content. You might need to start mentioning your names more often so we become familiar with you guys!
good work.
Looking for the source of the actuator. Where can I buy one.
It says the url is not found
I never realized how good paper models looked when they were bigger. Honestly on camera you cant tell the difference between the original wood and plastic ones vs the paper models used in this vid. Amazing!
They're a god send! Hope you liked how the final shot turned out!
Can't tell if its the accents/ British wit or what, but this feels like topgear for vfx people in the best way haha.
Nice to see the large models, they look so good!
Thanks Nigel, we think they worked really well for these shots; glad you liked them!
AMAZING. WE NEED MORE PRACTICAL MODEL EFFECTS IN MOVIES.
If Benedict Cumberbatch and Malcolm McDowell had a kid.
Or just British Mikey Day from SNL
Also somewhat reminds me of Liam O'Brien.
I was thinking Benedict and Simon Pegg, but Mikey Day is a good likeness, too.
I think Simon pegg and Dustin hoffman did fusion dance.
Beautiful results
Thank you!
Ya, when you see bloated film budgets basically what youre seeing is thievery. They're only using about 3/4ths of that money on the production. The other 30 of 40 million is being pocketed.
WO! you got the thumbs up from one of my favorite Production elements company. Killer
All the in-camera trickery really gives you an appreciation to what it took to get cool shots and to make visual effects before the advent of CGI. And that's just setting everything up and getting the shots before the whole "multiple passes to get mattes" thing. The level of ingenuity and dedication to the craft is quite inspiring.
I love that you guys are shining a spotlight on all that hard work.
On a lark, I looked into whether or not model railroaders used paper buildings for their backgrounds. And wow... did they! They have stuff ranging from Stencils that you can buy online to Magazine cut-outs. With a little time you can make fantastic buildings.
So when I see you with that paper TIE fighter that brings back so many memories and youtube videos.
I'm glad you were able to find I .
This is great content, can’t believe this doesn’t have more views! Gonna try this with a T-fighter toy in front of a green screen, don’t know how I’m gonna mount it, but I’m motivated by this video to figure it out !
Duck tape and a stick
I feel like we're getting in on the ground level with this channel ;)
Seeing your documentation as a kid fourty to thirtyfive years ago would potentially have led to serious damage as falling right from the chair in pure awe!!!! Man, how did we play Star Wars in that time with our tiny models and figures!!!
Wasn't disappointed! The papercraft model looked amazing I have to say.
As a fan of filming, electronics and Star Wars, this was awesome. I realise not everyone will have the same camera setup, but knowing your camera focal length would be nice, especially as you have taken time to explain F stop and ISO settings. Keep up the good work. Very much looking forward to the next vid!
We will be updating the description with all this info! We used a Tokina 11-16mm at around 14mm :)
Doesn’t the lens have to be fully manual? To avoid lens flicker? Thanks!
Actually the sound of Ben's Honda rolling down the gravel road with the engine off was the sound of the boulder in Raiders, specifically the rear tire. The TIE fighter is a mix of yes, an elephant, with a car on wet pavement.
Cool video, very professional 🙏🤖👏🏻
ILM threw the original Death Star in the dumpster, where it was picked by a scavenger, sold to an antique shop where it sat outside for years, was used as a garbage can, only to be rescued and restored years later.
Sacrilege
This is so tremendously informative.
I’m really interested to know the motoring you used to control the ship?
MORE PAPER!!!
🤯🤯🤯🤯
THE GENIUS LEVEL IS STAGGERING!!!
7:51 you need to use painter’s tape, it’s already blue and sticks very well, it also is easy to remove leaving a clean surface..
great work with the green light on the underside of the fighter. really sells the shot.
Ooo paper models and manual dolly moves! The results look great!! Would have never thought of undercranking, probably a lot better than trying to move the dolly in under 12 parsecs. Quick questions: how hard was it to build a stepper motor? Were the parts hard to find?
(P.S. - I am so envious of your studio setup!!!)
We are very fortunate indeed! And yes, it's actually surprising how well the paper models hold up!
Regarding the stepper motor, this isn't too difficult to do. A Nema 17 stepper motor is quite cheap on Ebay and should be amply strong enough to move a lightweight prop such as this. You can get a driver chip (A4988) also cheaply on Ebay. Once connected to the stepper, you just need 1 input for a step pulse and 1 input for direction. There are lots of tutorials on youtube, Instructables and generally on Google.
I just salvaged some stepper motors from a few broken printers for just this sort of thing. It's super easy to make a controller for the to get repeatable movements.
“Alert all commands. Calculate every possible destination along their last known trajectory.”
Got so excited watching this in so many ways. Love the BTS and bringing to life our most favourite scenes from these old-school movies. Well done guys, keep up the awesome work!
Thanks Mark, glad you're loving the videos!
Good job.
THANK YOU!
What a great find, two chaps recreating and modernising the way with a retro feel - the wonder of practical effects...have a sub and give us more!
Thanks so much Martin, there's plenty more to come! Great to have you onboard for the ride!
Absolutely amazing work. Last few months busy with Paper XWing model nearing completion . This Tie Fighter model is next .
In camera shows how the original special effects work has been done bij ILM.
I would love to see what the Incamera crew would do with the Stop Motion
Empire Strikes Back Imperial Walkers on Hoth attack :)
This how thunderbirds Started, Tech was not as good but look what Gerry achieved
Papercraft is fun.. Years ago I built an 18 inch papercraft ED-209. I had to improvise a substructure made of matting board to the upper portion wouldn't crush the legs, but it turned out great, and still stands.
Fantastic episode. Great work JP! Such a knowledgeable and engaging team!
To avoid perspective distortion when compositing the separate shots, you should shoot with a telephoto lens (at least 150mm on APS-C) - this also requires the motion control system to have an automated focus puller as well.
Really wish the new movies returned to these kind of techniques and that both the stories and characters weren't so awful...
Amazing work my friend! Disney could learn a thing from you!
Thanks so much, we really appreciate it!
WOW! I feel like I just experienced a whole week of film school. This stuff is way more fun that CGI.
Thanks Rich! There's an awful lot of key information to pack into these videos haha
Wow... Great Stuff! Thanks! Just subscribed! At 1:30 ~ Note custom White Neon "Force Field" (where the Millennium Falcon is being pulled into the Death Star) was built by FX Master Larry Albright who built many of the mini-UFOs in Close Encounter and "Lit Up" the Mother Ship with countless pieces of his incredible Neon.
At 20:17 you can see that the Tie Fighter's pitch is oscillating, which is not good. That shot is taken probably Tie Fighter was hanging on the ropes. (Probably because of the air flow generated by the camera and/or the guys themselves. A drawback of working with very low mass miniatures)
I cant believe how good those models look! Great job!!! If I worked on the original SW movie and saw this video I would be freaking out!!! It would be interesting to find out the cost difference of one shot compared to the original (cameras, computers, model making, staff, post production, etc).
Ah thank you, glad you liked the video and the end shots!
Awesome!!
Thanks!
Ever since I was a kid I always interested in practical special effects. Im 52yrs. Old now.
52 years young my friend! Hopefully our videos keep you interested!
Can't wait for the next tutorial.
Really impressive work guys ! Please continue, you are AWESOME ! 😍
Super inspiring and cool stuff!
Glad you enjoyed it!
AWESOME!
Love seeing my buddy Richard Edlund in this video.
This is exactly what I had been looking for. I’ve been trying to film some miniature work but the movement of my miniatures have no weight to the movement. Trying out a low frame rate with low shutter speed might do the trick
You two are dangerously smart. ILM should snatch you two up NOW!
haha, thank you so much!
Awesome episode...great to see JP....'Let's go.....fifteen'
The glint in the eye 😏
I've built that exact same model! In original size OC, but I was watching it and it matchs!
I have a goal to make something similar but much more simplified... Much more of a abstract kind of X-Files type UFO that flies overhead... I want to film it as a practical model and chroma key in to simulate that the alien Invader spacecraft is flying overhead as my character is hiding... I will be using everything I've learned from you guys videos to try to create this shot... I still think that your channel is one of the most educational channels on filmmaking that exists on UA-cam
Love it Tommy, keep 'em coming!
Excellent video.
This is awesome, and it's really cool to see JP co-host this one.
I’m so glad I found this channel. I LOVE what you’re doing. Well done!
Wow thank you so much Kenny! Glad you're loving the videos!
In 1977, it was simply called Star Wars. The ' A New Hope' part of the title crawl was added in later releases.
This is the channel I have been looking for but didn't know it. Awesome.
Wow, thanks so much Adam; glad to have you as part of the family!
Oh you teases! Brilliant again guys, well done
Guys this channel is amazing! I love what you're making and will definitely keep watching for new content... great work!
Thanks Callum!
Great videos! Love this stuff!
Where’s that equipment list at 👀 keep up the awesome work!
It is clear that lighting is a lot fucking harder than I thought. I'm even more impressed with ILM - had all the same issues but needed to "pull a matte" as well.
Benedict Cumberbatch + Ralph Fiennes. Maybe a sprinkle of Joe Pantoliano mixed in.
We've heard the first two quite a bit; but not sure what Tommy will think of being compared to Cypher from The Matrix 😂
@@InCameraTV It's probably the facial hair (mustache and soul patch) giving me that small hint of Joey Pants/Cypher. 👍
I'm very impressed. Like the attention to detail and gear.
I REALLY NEED one of those stepper motor control interfaces for a smartphone. Where can I find it?
Asked the same question and would appreciate that particular detail if they’re truly interested in helping filmmakers.
Amaizing!
Thank you!
Wow you guys are doing cool things! I've wanted to work on this kinda stuff since I was 10yrs old. Subbed!
Thanks so much dude, glad to have you on board!
John Dykstra was so important and somewhat forgotten after the first couple movies.
amazing job
As. A future. Movie director of action films and sci fi it’s. Good. To. Know. These techniques
What ILM did in that first movie was absolutely ground breaking, especially Motion Control which made for minimal matte lines (which were extremely common in space movies of the day).
But their first movie wasn't "Star Wars: A New Hope."
It was "Star Wars"!!
You keep referring to the movie as "A New Hope" but that was absolutely NOT the name of the movie I paid to watch twenty-two times that first summer just to watch how they did it.
The Millennium Falcon high-tailing it out of the Death Star is still my very favorite shot.
"Star Wars: A New Hope" was George Lucas's disastrous CGI retcon of what was a classic space movie.
That’s awesome
I always laugh 😂 at sound design in space movies lol .. the swooshing sounds and laser sound are practical until u realize there’s no sound in space lol... #GreatVideo this was epic af I learned alot
Lookin' slick fellas! Super clean results and this video was beautifully crafted
Need a special episode with George Lucas and try to recreate some of the effects with you guys.
Amazing job🎉🎉
Well done guys, love it!!!
Thank you, glad you're enjoying the videos!
the crowd in the pod racing scene were literal q tips.
Haha that's amazing I never knew that!
"And now we're going to use this number 2 sledgehammer to knock out this wall and create a shared living space between kitchen and dining, it's going to be a really great place for family..... the number 2 sledgehammer feels really good in the hands and does a good job of hammering sledgely. Ok let's see how it goes..."
Really nice
So much work; no wonder films cost a bajillion bucks.
Marveloso!
Love it !
I see you are using a Blackmagic camera, can you tell me which one and the frame rate you used?
Hey guys. I'm a professional CG artist, but I LOVE practical stuff too. I even build scale models as a hobby. If you ever want to perhaps do a collaboration, hit me up!
Nice! Thanks Daniel, hopefully our paths will cross one day!
Awsome. I love this. More please.
Thanks Mike, plenty more to come from us!
Tremendous. As usual!
Thanks for explaining, Doctor Strange...
Guys, can you pick up the pacing of your editing? You can do the voice over of him explaining using camera tape to cut down hard shadows while he is taping. Think you could cut 7 min off the video--drags a bit right now. LOVE YOUR WORK! Impressed you used paper models! This is just a fantastic series so far. Hope to see many more videos and wish you lots of success.
Thank you for the feedback, and we're glad you like the content! Whilst we're just getting started we're finding our feet on what people like and what works well so all feedback is heplpful!
Such a great new channel, keep it up!
The last few seconds got a subscribe hit 😱😂👍
i love the oldschool FX. This is the real shit.
This is what I've been looking for thank you so much!!!!
Oh amazing, glad we can satisfy your UA-cam needs!
This is pretty cool but I feel like it could have been 10 minutes and just as cool.
I got good results by moving past my model with my hand held Glidecam. It actually worked better than my motorized slider. Just a thought.
This is great but you made the ships move like they were panning like the camera ?
It seems to me that if you had black walls in the studio, instead of white, it'd be easier to keep random light from bouncing around and ending up on your scene.
Alas we don't just shoot fx here, and white is the most common requirement for music videos and commercials as there is much more flexibility!
I prefer models over the CGI just because it looks more realistic.
Old school effects rules forever.
You know it!
Good work! But, Shouldn’t the laser blast light have been recorded with all other studio lights off? Then do an add in comp.
I love your passion! Is really vibrant and contagious. Makes me miss the vfx supervision on set
thanks so much, that's great to hear!
Really cool stuff! Also, does anyone else think this man looks a bit like Benedict Cumberbatch?
haha, Tommy said he has heard that before!
💥AWESOME💥
Thanks 🔥
Subscribed at 8:85. Thank you for pointing out why all my greenscreen work comes out muddled. I’ve been failing to illuminate the greenscreen itself. Well, i Have been working at this on my own my whole life, so yeah i can see fails coming at me. But, hey, this time, thanks for the fix!
No worries, glad we can help!
@@InCameraTV thank you again. I think this moment is why youtube was originally conceived.
I subscribed because of this video 👍🏼
ayyy thank you!