Slayers are stronger than young vamps but its probably like a 7 or 8 fighting a 10 It's uphill but doable. With Caleb it was like a 1 fighting a 10 so there wasn't a point. They didn't even know if he was still human or killable.
I think it had a bigger impact because he was her final lesson before she went on to fight the first. She beat everything else that had ever been thrown at her, every kind of evil except him. It was part of that "each bad guy is a life hurdle" that Joss had going on with the show. The First could not be killed, only stalled for a time, so really he was the final big bad that she killed in the series.
You know what made Caleb such a good villain? The big bads in this show were either evil because they were made to be that way (the master, the first, angelus), or because their lack of regard for the damage they did to achieve their goals made them look evil (Glory, Adam, the mayor). But Caleb? He was evil for no other reason that he wanted to be. He enjoyed hurting people, the power it gave to him. I honestly think he could have walked away from it had he been inclined because for him, evil was a choice. And he chose to revel in the pain and suffering of others
@TonyEfforts no. He was human. The First lent him a portion of its power which is what made him so strong. This is my point. His evil was a willing choice that he could walk away from, he just chose not to
Caleb is my favourite villian from BTVS, so chilling and sinster, plus he enjoys and finds the pain, fear and deaths of the potentical slayers amusing. Nathan Fillion did an incredible job playing this character as he usually plays heroes and good guys, wish he'd been in the whole season though not just a few episodes.
Fun fact: Xander was supposed to die here. He then would have appeared as the First for the rest of the season, taunting the Scoobies as they go into the big battle. But Joss Whedon couldn't bring himself to do it... so he did this instead.
This season was so dark compared to the more lighthearted earlier seasons, Xander losing an eye was one of the most shocking things to ever happen to a main Scooby gang member
I was obsessed with this scene when i was a kid. Other kids were watching spider man when i was raised on buffy. My first show that wasnt for kids. Ill always love Buffy and Angel
He was a normal human going on supernatural adventures with slayers and witches. I think he knew it was only a matter of time before something like this happened.
@@MatoroMahri Yeah not sure if he was brave or dumb. He had no powers or any fighting abelites really. He didn't even have above human intelligence. Actually thought he was going to be the smart person in the group, but it was the opposite.
@Antonio Milton agreed. Buffy got her ass whooped the first two encounters but as always, she utilized other abilities like her agility and speed to best him. Faith would've done the same I'm sure.
yea ...but he was too strong and too evil . the episodes he was in scared me back when this show was on...he had the power of the first inside him if he were in more episodes more of the cast would have been murdered by him easily
@@Marvel_vs_Capcom84 actually it all depends on what you view as scary ..the fact that Caleb was an evil preacher was scary to me because hes supposed to represent god but chooses to work for the devil so i think Caleb was way scarier than the uber vamp was even tho he almost killed Buffy caleb was the scariest villain on buffy in my opinion.
I like that it's spike is the one that runs to help Xander and actually floors Caleb , especially given that he and Xander have never really gotten along
Work/fight alongside someone for a long enough period of time and you'll eventually gain a mutual respect, even if you don't particularly like each other.
Camaraderie that comes from multiple battles fighting on the same team is a powerful thing. They may have hated each other, but ultimately they were still brothers in arms.
@Angela-wo7lv I would disagree. I think Spike and Xander had a certain wary respect for each other. Spike because he's a vampire with 2 slayers to his name and Xander because he's just a human. Unlike say Wesley or Giles who are trained watchers or Gunn who grew up fighting on the streets, there's nothing special or powerful about Xander (as he acknowledged) but he's always there in the thick of it. I think Spike respected that even if he didn't particularly like the guy
@@joecolman1968100% I don’t think anyone could’ve watched a super strength tear into the eye of a normal human and not do anything.. Spike protected him because at the end of the day Xander was his teammate and he was helpless.
Faith in Buffy TVS is a dumbass dipshit. There was a bomb in a chest when she opened it and she screamed "GET DOWN!" to the others. When clearly, if they'd gotten down, they'd have gotten blown sky high into hundreds of meaty pieces and layer eaten by wild or stray animals.
The original plan was to have Caleb snap Xanders neck here, but it changed in production because Joss felt he couldn't send fans away happy killing one of the "core four."
Oh my. That explains another comment I read on here about Xander dying. I had no idea that was the original plan. I’m glad it didn’t happen that way. If he was going to die, at least have him go out in a fight like Anya did.
He forgot rule number 1 of fighting. When the slayer is menacingly swinging a scythe around don't just stand there and call her a stupid girl. And rule number 2. NEVER leave your nuts exposed.
I kinda agree with this. Two slayers and a vampire should’ve been able to take Caleb, he wasn’t that strong considering Buffy was able to beat him solo in the end.
If they all fought him at the same time I think they could. Here he fought them all individually. Even Buffy managed to momentarily distract him by sending him flying with superior skill and speed.
Hamilton was a blatant rip-off of Agent Smith from the Matrix. He just didn't wear the shades. Also, his martial arts wasn't as good, the guy didn't throw one kick.
To a degree yes until the scene where Hamilton beats depowered Illyria (who even at this stage makes Spike look like a joke) unconscious in about 10 seconds. Plus Hamilton first appears in episode 17, so he is more towards the end like Caleb is. Honestly based on feats Hamilton would beat Caleb in a fight my opinion. I’d say even Depowered Illyria would go toe to toe against Caleb.
Why is everyone always comparing Buffy and Faith together? Even in the show they do I love them both they show both sides to a slayer they both use their heads emotions and fist to fight their opponents they fight with everything they have because both are warriors sure they didn’t get along because Faith went down a dark path but honestly that’s what makes Faith interesting Buffy isn’t dark and Faith isn’t light they are opposites but put them together and they balance each other out I love their storyline and character arcs first friends then enemies to comrades to sisters they share a bond with each other because they are slayers and no one else in the gang can get that except for them they are both pretty bad ass in my eyes
I’ve never compared them. I find them contrasting, just how you explained. I love Faith. she’s a badass. She fit the role very well. I’m always also very intrigued about people going down a dark path. She was a good villain, but I always had Faith in her (pun intended) that she would see the light. I felt bad for her. you could see what she was struggling with. I’m glad they brought her back. I think that she had tremendous growth in the show and she became an even bigger badass after she was back on the good side. I also love Buffy. She is the show, obviously, and she’s also a badass, but in a more conservative way lol If that makes sense. It would be hard to pick a favorite since they’re both so different. I’m more attracted to Faith in many different ways (I don’t mean sexually btw), but it’s also hard to disregard Buffy at all, or even a little just because we spent so many years watching her too.
Yep, I have never not liked Faith, I love my girl buffy more then anyone lol but I have never had something bad to say about Faith. I knew she would turn out to be alrite in the end.
@@KrisBryant15 nah, he’s clearly not immune to sharp objects so a pissed off Buffy with a sword would’ve done the job. Two pissed off slayers with swords would’ve done even more
I think Buffy and Faith both had the same amount of strength, but it's clear during fights that Faith relies more on it while Buffy relies on technique and speed. That's why Buffy bested Faith in battles often, because Faith fought sloppier and slower.
Nathan Fillion is such a good actor. It's a shame that his character was thrown into season that was severely underdeveloped. He could've been the big bad for season 4
I do think the season was underdeveloped. It had a lot of potential, but I also would have not liked if they dragged the story for 4 seasons. But Who knows. Maybe you’re right. They could have come up with something a lot more clever in 4 seasons.
The Master, Adam, Glory and Caleb were the scariest big bads on the show! Caleb though seemed to really enjoy the terror and really took his time, makes him the most mencing and threating. Since the Uncharted fan film, Nathan Fillion is always Nathan Drake to me so it's like what would happen if he was evil!
Taking his time? He seemed to make short work of whomever he got his hands on. That’s the kind of villain I like. The others were mostly talk talk talk and then one or two fights. Caleb talks and decimates at the same time. Wish he had killed Xander in this but Whedon decided against it due to not having enough time to grieve.
@@socialmedianotfunanymore Yes. Honestly, it probably would have been a really good artistic choice. But Whedon thought the characters wouldn’t have had enough time to mourn Xander in just the final 4 episodes.
The mayor is more terrifying than the master and Adam to me. You always got the feeling that there was a barely contained wolf beneath his facade of cheerfulness.
Watching this years later I realize none on the potentials use their weapons on the Bringers in the beginning. Swords and knives galore and they are punching and kicking
Also, I get vampires are only killable by decapitation, immolation, or a stake through the chest, but this is in America, and there are a lot of problems a gun solves much better than knives and fisticuffs. I just imagine after Caleb throws Buffy across the room and says "what else you got", Spike just reaches into his jacket and says "I got a 12 gauge" and immediately puts a sizeable hole in Caleb's face, followed by the bringers.
Caleb should have been season 7 big bad along with the bringers being his minions, with occasional appearance from the Uber vamps and the first evil setting the stage for season 8
Buffy got that ass in the end, she was pissed and probably wouldve slayed him right there if spike didn’t interfere. But her troops were more important.
Buffy would've lost. She only wins because of protagonist plot armor, combined with artificial stupidity. If Caleb had fought Buffy the way he fought Faith, he would've massacred her.
@@YourCreepyUncle. False, any fighter knows that going up against a significantly more powerful adversary for the first time will most likely warrant a beat down. But it does not determine defeat. Two active Slayers would’ve definitely killed Caleb right then and there, especially after realizing how powerful he was. But they had to retreat bc they were losing too many girls in the fight.
Buffy wouldn’t have beaten him then and there. Stop jumping on the slayers ass. The next time they meet he knocks her unconscious. Buffy’s skill did pay off here, but he was only knocked down for like a second. Even with the scythe she still struggled against him until Angel came. What comes out of your mouth and what actually happens are two very different things.
@@TheJayden3977 “Jumping on the slayers ass” you’re like the biggest hater i don’t even know why you watch the show lolol “He was only knocked down for like a second” 😂😂😂 You must hate that i’m right. Look, maybe you’ve never been in an actual fight so all you have to reference is your little comic book reality. Anytime you knock someone down, whether it be for a second or an hour, that means it was also an opportunity to finish them. You have no problem reminding everyone of how Caleb could’ve killed Buffy when he knocked her out in the school, well she could’ve killed him at the vineyard when she sent him flying across the room. And chopped his head off before he had a chance to recover. But no, her troops were wounded and many killed, so stop being a hypocrite just bc you’re a Dark Willow fangirl
@@RicoDavisYou’re wrong. Buffy wasn’t going to win this fight. Caleb was a LOT stronger than her. That’s just fact. He knocked her out with one punch in the beginning. The second time they fight, she doesn’t even last a minute before he throws her through glass and into a wall and knocks her out again. Caleb is probably as strong as either Glory or the Beast in the “Angel” series. Buffy alone isn’t strong enough to beat those kinds of beings by herself. She’d need the Scythe or some kind of help to level the playing field. Plus, she came in here knowing nothing about her opponent. She didn’t know how strong he was or how he thinks. It was a big mistake. Caleb was strong enough to beat Buffy, Faith and Spike in just five minutes. He was smart enough to not allow them time to regroup, form a plan, double-team him or get any kind of momentum. And just for kicks, he blinded her friend to send her and them a message. Buffy was out of her depths here. She was not going to be enough to win on this night.
You watch Firefly and see Mal, the perfect reluctant hero. You watch Buffy and see Caleb, the pyscho that revels in the evil he creates. Nathan Fillion is the shit.
Cookie Monster .....because they have enough on their hand with one evil being to fight? Even in the comics she said that going darth willow may turn her against her friend.
Maybe. Probably not, though. Caleb was playing with them, here. They didn't know what he could do yet and he wanted to test the strength of a Slayer against his own power. When he first punched Buffy, he was not impressed by their Slayer powers and as a result, he held back so he could play with them some more. If Buffy and Faith had tried to tag team him, they would have fared better for a while, but he would have tried harder too and probably killed one of them to send a message not to fuck with him. There's also the fact that Faith is not much of a teamplayer and her and Buffy have been at odds with each other for a while now. They don't play well together, there's no trust or cooperation and Caleb would have most likely taken advantage of that. In another fight, Buffy figures out that, although she is no match for his strength and endurance, she is much faster and more agile then he is, so she spends most of their fight dodging his blows and counterattacking whenever possible. This was AFTER she learned a thing or two about how Caleb likes to do things, though. In their first fight, he utterly trashed her, Faith, Spike and all the potentials and teaming up with Faith wouldn't have been enough to kill him, I don't think.
@@cookiemonster3056 Willow is ineffective against the first, and the first is very much protecting Caleb. If Willow tried to use magic against him, like we see later in the season, the first would try to possess her and fuck her up . like it did when she tried to track the first and willow knew better than to try again.
Man, they got absolutely wrecked. This is easily the worst defeat the protagonists have suffered in the entire series. At least when Glory beat the shit out of Buffy, no one else had to suffer.
But she could only fight him to a standstill. Caleb was just playing with her, sending a message. He wasn’t going to kill her…yet. He wanted her scared first. Doubting her strength against him. And Buffy wasn’t ready to beat him, not yet. Once she got the scythe and Angel was there to cheer her on and back her up, she had everything she needed to finally end Caleb.
@@Jeff_Pryce no, he thought she was nothing and she combo’d his ass and sent him fly across the room the same way he did her. I absolutely love that she did that and it was indeed a memo that eventually she was gonna end his crazy ass
@Power106Fan Right! Xander's scream of agony was too real to be even remotely funny. Having your eye gouged out has to be the worst pain imaginable next to being set on fire. Xander is one of my least favorite characters, but even i hated seeing that.
I was never a Buffy Buff (yes pun inteded) that being said it is a nice contrast and impressing to see how far Whedon has come and grown over the years. Yes, sure it's a vast difference in both the year this was produced along with difference in budgets compared to the Marvels he has been up to.. Still my personal favourite of his is Firefly, made a masterpiece with no small effort thanks to Nathan Fillion. Damn shame it ended due to piss poor judgement from studios.. Firefly never aired in my country so I only learned about it when I found Serenity in the local movie rental place.. Thankfully the show is still available at some streaming services today and I still rewatch every episode when I get that Mal itch..
Not very well. They were faster if they concentrated and focused purely on reflexes, but one hit would take them out. They can't damage him but he can damage them just fine.
It wouldn’t have made a difference. Notice how Caleb fights here. Everyone says that if they ganged up on Caleb, they would have taken him down. Caleb probably knows that-which is why he didn’t allow it to happen. He isolated each individual threat (Buffy, Faith, Spike, etc) and took them out one on one. Quickly. Mercilessly. He strikes hard and fast and doesn’t give them any time to regroup or gang up. He went for shock, awe and confusion, and it worked spectacularly. That’s why he won this fight.
I think.. and this is just my opinion.. if they had known about Calebs monstrous strength and durability in the beginning.. this might have gone different. If you look at the second time she brawls with him, she dodges his attacks and only attacks to counter.. and does MUCH better. Same thing with when she finds the scythe.
I think that’s what led them to turn on Buffy in the next episode. Everyone was saying this felt like a trap, but Buffy was headstrong and insisted on meeting Caleb head-on without knowing anything about him. And it resulted in disaster.
@@Jeff_Pryce right. Not to mention the tension between her and Giles was obvious at that point and she completely disrespected him in front of everyone & wouldn’t listen to his warning. On another note, it was out of character for Buffy to do this with Giles. When it came down to a real battle, she always listened to him. I know she was still mad at him for allowing the principal to attack and try to kill Spike but still.
Yup. Buffy by Season 7 has heaps of experience fighting people that are far stronger than her. Glory for example. Buffy is also a far more skilled fighter than Caleb. Buffy adapts quickly. Even two episodes later when she looks for the scythe Caleb can’t land a hit on her because she is too fast, even Buffy knows it.
@@socialmedianotfunanymorethe bigger issue I have is how out of character the writing for Giles was. They really assisted his character with poor writing/creative direction the final 2 seasons.
This guy is an untouchable animal everyone is flying and getting necks snapped and stabbed would love to see Caleb vs Glory. Great to see faith get in on the act. I think Buffy was totally caught off guard here coming up against Caleb. Later she grew and then slewed.
Is it wrong to vouch for Caleb in this battle? Apart from him being a fake priest and an evil incarnate? Yes, it is wrong. Gougeing Xander's eye is where he crossed the line.
One of my favourite fight scenes of the entire series..."Nathan Fillion" as Caleb...brutal!. His calmness and wit whilst despatching the scoobies finest was quality. So, who's most of powerful?...Glory...or Illyria?...Caleb...or Hamilton?...or juiced-up Slayers?....Potential Slayer: (after seeing friends get neck snapped) ~ "NO!!!!" Caleb [with wry grin]: ~..."Yes!"....
@@Marvel_vs_Capcom84 IKR?...He says it so "matter of fact"...like there's no escape...like you have to breathe oxygen...for him, working for "The First" simply..."is"...And he's gonna do whatever it takes to impose the will of the first on the many...Ironic really...bit like World-Military and Tech Companies do [with governments as their mouthpiece]....
@@Marvel_vs_Capcom84 he was a good one too i forgot about him because hes buffys first love and the guy she lost her virginity too which is what made angel evil how ironic
She outsmarted and out skilled him using her speed to her advantage she realises he was just playing with her in the beginning and here it shows so she goes on the offensive in the next fight.
“We’re leaving.”
When Spike of all people is choosing to abandon a fight, you know it’s gotta be bad
Tru dat
Caleb and Glory are monster’s level 😁☺️
Slayers are stronger than young vamps but its probably like a 7 or 8 fighting a 10
It's uphill but doable.
With Caleb it was like a 1 fighting a 10 so there wasn't a point. They didn't even know if he was still human or killable.
Well Spike got manhandled even fully vamped out do he knew he was outmatched
The fact Caleb was able to knock Buffy, Spike and Faith out with ease he knew they were outmatched.
Caleb was too good of a villain for them to only have him in a few episodes. The final fight with him was more impactful than the actual finale
If they introduced him earlier, that’ve been way better
Hands down the best villian off the show.
Fact.
I think it had a bigger impact because he was her final lesson before she went on to fight the first. She beat everything else that had ever been thrown at her, every kind of evil except him. It was part of that "each bad guy is a life hurdle" that Joss had going on with the show. The First could not be killed, only stalled for a time, so really he was the final big bad that she killed in the series.
@@4amcripple Eh... We know Cleveland has another Hellmouth. Shouldn't the First have a whole 'nother army under each one?
You know what made Caleb such a good villain? The big bads in this show were either evil because they were made to be that way (the master, the first, angelus), or because their lack of regard for the damage they did to achieve their goals made them look evil (Glory, Adam, the mayor).
But Caleb? He was evil for no other reason that he wanted to be. He enjoyed hurting people, the power it gave to him. I honestly think he could have walked away from it had he been inclined because for him, evil was a choice. And he chose to revel in the pain and suffering of others
Mankind In a summary.
Wasn't he a demon?
@TonyEfforts no. He was human. The First lent him a portion of its power which is what made him so strong. This is my point. His evil was a willing choice that he could walk away from, he just chose not to
@@joecolman1968 copy
That's called yellow lantern. 😎 💯
Caleb was one buffy villain that truly scarred me
I just laughed when he knocked her out in one punch. They really should stop underestimating their opponents.
All two episodes?
@@SeraphSeph she obviously thought he was just a normal human that would hurt his hand punching her. Even I didn't expect that.
@@KentPetersonmoney thats not in her character to think like that
Worse than glory
Caleb is my favourite villian from BTVS, so chilling and sinster, plus he enjoys and finds the pain, fear and deaths of the potentical slayers amusing. Nathan Fillion did an incredible job playing this character as he usually plays heroes and good guys, wish he'd been in the whole season though not just a few episodes.
Fun fact: Xander was supposed to die here. He then would have appeared as the First for the rest of the season, taunting the Scoobies as they go into the big battle. But Joss Whedon couldn't bring himself to do it... so he did this instead.
Oh shit, really?
Because Xander is his self-insert
Joss is a coward lol he kills every female character he can but when it's time to kill his self-insert he chickens out
Not all heroes wear capes
@@saracoutinho3398 The initial scoobies (Willow, Xander and Giles) don't die.
Subtly touching to see Spike push Caleb away from Xander.
Yeah, considering they always disliked each other and at that moment they were allies
Why have I seen this show at least 15 times over and never once noticed that it was Spike who got Caleb away from Xander!?! That warmed my heart.
@@giuseppehernandez8481 it was subtle but super satisfying
@@Seanlivingstone1984 If you've read the comics then that moment was basically like the start of their friendship.
@@TV247 thanks very much I an pleased to hear it meant more in the long run!
Caleb: "The slayer must indeed be powerful" then sends Buffy flying "So, What else you got?"
Yes, but sending her flying isnt defeating her. Afterwards she fought him much better adapting to his ability.
Damn that screan Xander gave was bone chilling.
Xander losing his eye was sad. Caleb was really sadistic villian.
I've said it before and I'll say it again.
Good Folk
Bad Folk
Clean Folk
Dirty Folk
NOOO!
YES!
LMFAOOOOOO he was Hilarious.
Yes. :D
This season was so dark compared to the more lighthearted earlier seasons, Xander losing an eye was one of the most shocking things to ever happen to a main Scooby gang member
Season 6 was a bit darker to me
Buffy died, TWICE 😂
What about when Buffy’s mother died?
Yeah, the more lighthearted season 6 which is the darkest season of the show by far.
Yes it was very dark but Tara’s death was the most shocking event for me. Never saw that coming.
I was obsessed with this scene when i was a kid. Other kids were watching spider man when i was raised on buffy. My first show that wasnt for kids. Ill always love Buffy and Angel
Time index 3:02, "well your the other one aren't you?!".
Man, so succinct but so much history to go through
I thought Xander would have an attitude after Losing his eye but he took it pretty good
He was a normal human going on supernatural adventures with slayers and witches. I think he knew it was only a matter of time before something like this happened.
@@MatoroMahri Yeah not sure if he was brave or dumb. He had no powers or any fighting abelites really. He didn't even have above human intelligence. Actually thought he was going to be the smart person in the group, but it was the opposite.
"Please don't Will..."
Even Wesley and Cordelia became better fighters then Xander 😂 and more useful too.
Honestly it kinda karma for what he done to Angel
Now imagine Glorificus pummelling Caleb in her hell dimension.
Faith hasn't had a good month first the Beast then Angelus now this.
daniel butler ...what doesn’t kill you makes you stronger
@@Eluudie yaaaas
She still here the others are gone
She technically won that fight with angelus
@Antonio Milton agreed. Buffy got her ass whooped the first two encounters but as always, she utilized other abilities like her agility and speed to best him. Faith would've done the same I'm sure.
Before the bad guys got the upper hand those potentials were holding there own
3:40
I love this scene
NOOOOO
YESSS
That "no" was as bad as that "yes" was good.
I hated Caleb so much, the actor did an amazing job portraying him though
The great Nathan Fillion.
Caleb was a fantastic villain, only problem is that he wasn't in enough episodes
yea ...but he was too strong and too evil . the episodes he was in scared me back when this show was on...he had the power of the first inside him if he were in more episodes more of the cast would have been murdered by him easily
@@onedayatatime1494 Caleb wasn't scary at all , He was just an interesting villain that should have been a bigger part of season 7
@@Marvel_vs_Capcom84 actually it all depends on what you view as scary ..the fact that Caleb was an evil preacher was scary to me because hes supposed to represent god but chooses to work for the devil so i think Caleb was way scarier than the uber vamp was even tho he almost killed Buffy caleb was the scariest villain on buffy in my opinion.
I like that it's spike is the one that runs to help Xander and actually floors Caleb , especially given that he and Xander have never really gotten along
Work/fight alongside someone for a long enough period of time and you'll eventually gain a mutual respect, even if you don't particularly like each other.
Camaraderie that comes from multiple battles fighting on the same team is a powerful thing. They may have hated each other, but ultimately they were still brothers in arms.
Nah, he only helped Xander bc he knew Buffy cared for him.
@Angela-wo7lv I would disagree. I think Spike and Xander had a certain wary respect for each other. Spike because he's a vampire with 2 slayers to his name and Xander because he's just a human. Unlike say Wesley or Giles who are trained watchers or Gunn who grew up fighting on the streets, there's nothing special or powerful about Xander (as he acknowledged) but he's always there in the thick of it. I think Spike respected that even if he didn't particularly like the guy
@@joecolman1968100% I don’t think anyone could’ve watched a super strength tear into the eye of a normal human and not do anything.. Spike protected him because at the end of the day Xander was his teammate and he was helpless.
If “I left religion” was A person.
😂😂😂
Technically he still believed it was just a different god he worshipped.
@@kcwade2616 very valid.
It's a miracle (AKA huge plot armor) that it took so long for one of the scoobies to take such a serious injury
Caleb was a beast.
You got to hate that bastard.
The way Faith Pull up tho ❄️ 🔥
Huh ?
@@jpmorganried7924 Faith came in swinging lol
The heel she gave him to the chest almost took him out
@@ricardomoseley It barely did anything
She stayed active.
“Never was one for the good book” I love Faith
Ohh it has its moments
Faith in Buffy TVS is a dumbass dipshit. There was a bomb in a chest when she opened it and she screamed "GET DOWN!" to the others. When clearly, if they'd gotten down, they'd have gotten blown sky high into hundreds of meaty pieces and layer eaten by wild or stray animals.
WE ALL HAVE GOOD LUCK
The original plan was to have Caleb snap Xanders neck here, but it changed in production because Joss felt he couldn't send fans away happy killing one of the "core four."
Oh my. That explains another comment I read on here about Xander dying. I had no idea that was the original plan. I’m glad it didn’t happen that way. If he was going to die, at least have him go out in a fight like Anya did.
Is the core four Buffy, Willow, Spike, and Xander ?
@@Outlawgirl1297 Buffy, Willow, Xander, and Giles.
I'm so glad he got his a** kicked the last episode!!
I'm surprised he didn't win and start a new show called "Caleb"
He forgot rule number 1 of fighting. When the slayer is menacingly swinging a scythe around don't just stand there and call her a stupid girl. And rule number 2. NEVER leave your nuts exposed.
“Nooo!”
“Mm-yes.”
That part always cracked me up 🫣
I swear faith is just getting bounced around like a ping pong ball in Buffy and in Angel as well 😂.
3:39
"NO!!!!"
"Yes. : ) "
To be fair, Buffy, Faith and Spike should have been able to take him.
Am guessing the potential slayers were a distraction so they couldn’t really focus 😂
I kinda agree with this. Two slayers and a vampire should’ve been able to take Caleb, he wasn’t that strong considering Buffy was able to beat him solo in the end.
If they all fought him at the same time I think they could. Here he fought them all individually. Even Buffy managed to momentarily distract him by sending him flying with superior skill and speed.
Caleb is unquestionably one of the best villains in the serie.
him and willow were the best villains of the series..
Yeah him and Glory were top tier
What can Caleb do that Drusilla can't?
Caleb had more of a presence in a few episodes of Buffy than Hamilton did in the entire last season of Angel lol
Hamilton was a blatant rip-off of Agent Smith from the Matrix. He just didn't wear the shades. Also, his martial arts wasn't as good, the guy didn't throw one kick.
To a degree yes until the scene where Hamilton beats depowered Illyria (who even at this stage makes Spike look like a joke) unconscious in about 10 seconds. Plus Hamilton first appears in episode 17, so he is more towards the end like Caleb is. Honestly based on feats Hamilton would beat Caleb in a fight my opinion. I’d say even Depowered Illyria would go toe to toe against Caleb.
Why is everyone always comparing Buffy and Faith together? Even in the show they do I love them both they show both sides to a slayer they both use their heads emotions and fist to fight their opponents they fight with everything they have because both are warriors sure they didn’t get along because Faith went down a dark path but honestly that’s what makes Faith interesting Buffy isn’t dark and Faith isn’t light they are opposites but put them together and they balance each other out I love their storyline and character arcs first friends then enemies to comrades to sisters they share a bond with each other because they are slayers and no one else in the gang can get that except for them they are both pretty bad ass in my eyes
I’ve never compared them. I find them contrasting, just how you explained. I love Faith. she’s a badass. She fit the role very well. I’m always also very intrigued about people going down a dark path. She was a good villain, but I always had Faith in her (pun intended) that she would see the light. I felt bad for her. you could see what she was struggling with. I’m glad they brought her back. I think that she had tremendous growth in the show and she became an even bigger badass after she was back on the good side.
I also love Buffy. She is the show, obviously, and she’s also a badass, but in a more conservative way lol If that makes sense. It would be hard to pick a favorite since they’re both so different. I’m more attracted to Faith in many different ways (I don’t mean sexually btw), but it’s also hard to disregard Buffy at all, or even a little just because we spent so many years watching her too.
Yep, I have never not liked Faith, I love my girl buffy more then anyone lol but I have never had something bad to say about Faith. I knew she would turn out to be alrite in the end.
This 🗣
Buffy is a better fighter. 😌
Buffy and Faith would’ve ended him if they worked together. Period. Buffy’s combo at the end shows that she alone could’ve done some damage.
@@KrisBryant15 nah, he’s clearly not immune to sharp objects so a pissed off Buffy with a sword would’ve done the job. Two pissed off slayers with swords would’ve done even more
IF it's a good old fashion 3 on 1 where spike Faith Buffy takes on caleb there's no doubt Caleb is a gonner
Probably the best scene in all of Buffy, a charismatic, intelligent and deadly villain.
Faith had more rage and physical strength than Buffy. If only they had been close the whole time.
I think Buffy and Faith both had the same amount of strength, but it's clear during fights that Faith relies more on it while Buffy relies on technique and speed. That's why Buffy bested Faith in battles often, because Faith fought sloppier and slower.
Nathan Fillion is such a good actor. It's a shame that his character was thrown into season that was severely underdeveloped. He could've been the big bad for season 4
I still loved it
I do think the season was underdeveloped. It had a lot of potential, but I also would have not liked if they dragged the story for 4 seasons. But Who knows. Maybe you’re right. They could have come up with something a lot more clever in 4 seasons.
This was season 7 btw
The Master, Adam, Glory and Caleb were the scariest big bads on the show! Caleb though seemed to really enjoy the terror and really took his time, makes him the most mencing and threating.
Since the Uncharted fan film, Nathan Fillion is always Nathan Drake to me so it's like what would happen if he was evil!
Taking his time? He seemed to make short work of whomever he got his hands on. That’s the kind of villain I like. The others were mostly talk talk talk and then one or two fights. Caleb talks and decimates at the same time. Wish he had killed Xander in this but Whedon decided against it due to not having enough time to grieve.
@@gregtestagent wait, Xander was originally met to die???👀
@@socialmedianotfunanymore Yes. Honestly, it probably would have been a really good artistic choice. But Whedon thought the characters wouldn’t have had enough time to mourn Xander in just the final 4 episodes.
The mayor is more terrifying than the master and Adam to me. You always got the feeling that there was a barely contained wolf beneath his facade of cheerfulness.
adam? 😂
Faith came in like a baddie
The way spike looked at him like “what the fuck is wrong with this numpty?“ 😂
Spike getting angry/vampired face after Caleb hit Buffy was strangely really cute 🙈
I love how spike defends buffy but also gets taken down.
Caleb should have said "You know the music, time to dance!" right after revealing himself to Buffy and the gang! :)
"You don't have the balls!"
"Make sure she's got balls."
"Miss. I do believe you have your own problems you should be worried about"
"Oh good. There's more a u".
The first time in the series that I ever actually felt bad for Xander, what a real G.
How? He was stupid
Watching this years later I realize none on the potentials use their weapons on the Bringers in the beginning. Swords and knives galore and they are punching and kicking
its still network tv, they cant have blood gushing everywhere and violent stabbings lol
@@jameslyon2338 that was of course sarcasm
Also, I get vampires are only killable by decapitation, immolation, or a stake through the chest, but this is in America, and there are a lot of problems a gun solves much better than knives and fisticuffs. I just imagine after Caleb throws Buffy across the room and says "what else you got", Spike just reaches into his jacket and says "I got a 12 gauge" and immediately puts a sizeable hole in Caleb's face, followed by the bringers.
Caleb should have been season 7 big bad along with the bringers being his minions, with occasional appearance from the Uber vamps and the first evil setting the stage for season 8
Buffy got that ass in the end, she was pissed and probably wouldve slayed him right there if spike didn’t interfere. But her troops were more important.
Buffy would've lost. She only wins because of protagonist plot armor, combined with artificial stupidity. If Caleb had fought Buffy the way he fought Faith, he would've massacred her.
@@YourCreepyUncle. False, any fighter knows that going up against a significantly more powerful adversary for the first time will most likely warrant a beat down. But it does not determine defeat. Two active Slayers would’ve definitely killed Caleb right then and there, especially after realizing how powerful he was. But they had to retreat bc they were losing too many girls in the fight.
Buffy wouldn’t have beaten him then and there. Stop jumping on the slayers ass. The next time they meet he knocks her unconscious. Buffy’s skill did pay off here, but he was only knocked down for like a second. Even with the scythe she still struggled against him until Angel came. What comes out of your mouth and what actually happens are two very different things.
@@TheJayden3977 “Jumping on the slayers ass” you’re like the biggest hater i don’t even know why you watch the show lolol “He was only knocked down for like a second” 😂😂😂 You must hate that i’m right. Look, maybe you’ve never been in an actual fight so all you have to reference is your little comic book reality. Anytime you knock someone down, whether it be for a second or an hour, that means it was also an opportunity to finish them. You have no problem reminding everyone of how Caleb could’ve killed Buffy when he knocked her out in the school, well she could’ve killed him at the vineyard when she sent him flying across the room. And chopped his head off before he had a chance to recover. But no, her troops were wounded and many killed, so stop being a hypocrite just bc you’re a Dark Willow fangirl
@@RicoDavisYou’re wrong.
Buffy wasn’t going to win this fight.
Caleb was a LOT stronger than her. That’s just fact. He knocked her out with one punch in the beginning.
The second time they fight, she doesn’t even last a minute before he throws her through glass and into a wall and knocks her out again. Caleb is probably as strong as either Glory or the Beast in the “Angel” series. Buffy alone isn’t strong enough to beat those kinds of beings by herself. She’d need the Scythe or some kind of help to level the playing field.
Plus, she came in here knowing nothing about her opponent. She didn’t know how strong he was or how he thinks. It was a big mistake. Caleb was strong enough to beat Buffy, Faith and Spike in just five minutes. He was smart enough to not allow them time to regroup, form a plan, double-team him or get any kind of momentum. And just for kicks, he blinded her friend to send her and them a message. Buffy was out of her depths here. She was not going to be enough to win on this night.
Spike "We're leaving."
Buffy " Wait! I just realized he can't hit me if I dodge!"
You watch Firefly and see Mal, the perfect reluctant hero.
You watch Buffy and see Caleb, the pyscho that revels in the evil he creates.
Nathan Fillion is the shit.
If buffy and faith double teamed him they would have killed him then and there
Why didn't they bring Willow she could have gone Dark Willow mode and killed him 😂
Cookie Monster .....because they have enough on their hand with one evil being to fight? Even in the comics she said that going darth willow may turn her against her friend.
Maybe. Probably not, though. Caleb was playing with them, here. They didn't know what he could do yet and he wanted to test the strength of a Slayer against his own power. When he first punched Buffy, he was not impressed by their Slayer powers and as a result, he held back so he could play with them some more. If Buffy and Faith had tried to tag team him, they would have fared better for a while, but he would have tried harder too and probably killed one of them to send a message not to fuck with him. There's also the fact that Faith is not much of a teamplayer and her and Buffy have been at odds with each other for a while now. They don't play well together, there's no trust or cooperation and Caleb would have most likely taken advantage of that.
In another fight, Buffy figures out that, although she is no match for his strength and endurance, she is much faster and more agile then he is, so she spends most of their fight dodging his blows and counterattacking whenever possible. This was AFTER she learned a thing or two about how Caleb likes to do things, though. In their first fight, he utterly trashed her, Faith, Spike and all the potentials and teaming up with Faith wouldn't have been enough to kill him, I don't think.
@@cookiemonster3056 Willow is ineffective against the first, and the first is very much protecting Caleb. If Willow tried to use magic against him, like we see later in the season, the first would try to possess her and fuck her up . like it did when she tried to track the first and willow knew better than to try again.
O% chance of that outcome.
Man, they got absolutely wrecked. This is easily the worst defeat the protagonists have suffered in the entire series. At least when Glory beat the shit out of Buffy, no one else had to suffer.
Yup that’s why the next episode they were completely spiritually broken.
"Like Falcon Crest" Spike loves his soaps.
I remember how bad ass this episode was when I first saw it
"The slayer must indeed be powerful"...Buffy flies away with a single punch, ehhh Caleb gave me gossebumps fuck!
Caleb was a FANTASTIC villain and should’ve lasted longer. Something frightening about him
Still don't know after so many years. Was Caleb a demon or human?
Caleb was human. The first gave him power so he would be able to defend himself and fight against Buffy and the gang, which is why he was so strong.
@@sierramitchell5210 Thanks!
Yup he was a preacher turned serial killer turned agent of the first.
Always wanted to see Angelus Vs the Turok Han
Buffy still whooped that ass at 4:16
She gave him the Memo.
“This Is unfinished business , between you and I”
@@ricardomoseley Exactly, she showed him a spark of what Slayer strength is really like.
Superior skill and speed does pay off
But she could only fight him to a standstill. Caleb was just playing with her, sending a message. He wasn’t going to kill her…yet. He wanted her scared first. Doubting her strength against him.
And Buffy wasn’t ready to beat him, not yet. Once she got the scythe and Angel was there to cheer her on and back her up, she had everything she needed to finally end Caleb.
@@Jeff_Pryce no, he thought she was nothing and she combo’d his ass and sent him fly across the room the same way he did her. I absolutely love that she did that and it was indeed a memo that eventually she was gonna end his crazy ass
Tell me I’m not the only one who cracked up laughing when Xander got his eye popped out lol
I did, too. Never liked that little shit. 😆
@Power106Fan Right! Xander's scream of agony was too real to be even remotely funny. Having your eye gouged out has to be the worst pain imaginable next to being set on fire. Xander is one of my least favorite characters, but even i hated seeing that.
That's low as u can go dead vicious
I was never a Buffy Buff (yes pun inteded) that being said it is a nice contrast and impressing to see how far Whedon has come and grown over the years.
Yes, sure it's a vast difference in both the year this was produced along with difference in budgets compared to the Marvels he has been up to..
Still my personal favourite of his is Firefly, made a masterpiece with no small effort thanks to Nathan Fillion.
Damn shame it ended due to piss poor judgement from studios.. Firefly never aired in my country so I only learned about it when I found Serenity in the local movie rental place..
Thankfully the show is still available at some streaming services today and I still rewatch every episode when I get that Mal itch..
Caleb kind of gagged Faith with the Cain comment 😂😂
Can you upload a scene when they visit Xander in the hospital. Willow puppy crying made me so sad....
Good I miss this show 💯 thank God I have the DVD's!
what happened to xander makes me cry badly. it's very very hard to watch.
Caleb and The Beast were two of the best
this serie lmaoooo so were just gonna throw people round the place like they are chair? smgdh love it
Caleb was a walking lit match stick. A menace
damn spike saving xander, while he thought he wasn't good enough to kill him in early seasons
Spike seemed genuinely pissed. If anybody is going to kill Xander, it’s gonna be Spike! Everybody else, hands off!
If Buffy and Faith settled their issues, I always wondered how the 2 of them working together would fair against Caleb at that time.
Not very well. They were faster if they concentrated and focused purely on reflexes, but one hit would take them out. They can't damage him but he can damage them just fine.
It wouldn’t have made a difference. Notice how Caleb fights here. Everyone says that if they ganged up on Caleb, they would have taken him down. Caleb probably knows that-which is why he didn’t allow it to happen. He isolated each individual threat (Buffy, Faith, Spike, etc) and took them out one on one. Quickly. Mercilessly. He strikes hard and fast and doesn’t give them any time to regroup or gang up. He went for shock, awe and confusion, and it worked spectacularly. That’s why he won this fight.
4:42 *Caleb Pulls Xander’s Eye Out* 😂
Attention seeking much
Best part of the video. 😆 😂😂😂
I think spike and buffy could have taken him the 2nd time round
Please upload clips of lies my parents told me. Wood and Giles talking about killing spike
3:17 why faith can’t defeat caleb?
If It weren’t for spikes
“We’re leaving”
Buffy would have left nothing of Caleb.
When she’s angry and focus nothing can stop her (spike In s4, glory in the final..) when she’s in doubt / fear she’s not that good
@@daenerystargaryen5171 honestly.
Caleb was giving them Shao Khan punches 👊🏼💀
4:43 Xander screams like a girl
I think.. and this is just my opinion.. if they had known about Calebs monstrous strength and durability in the beginning.. this might have gone different. If you look at the second time she brawls with him, she dodges his attacks and only attacks to counter.. and does MUCH better. Same thing with when she finds the scythe.
I think that’s what led them to turn on Buffy in the next episode. Everyone was saying this felt like a trap, but Buffy was headstrong and insisted on meeting Caleb head-on without knowing anything about him. And it resulted in disaster.
@@Jeff_Pryce right. Not to mention the tension between her and Giles was obvious at that point and she completely disrespected him in front of everyone & wouldn’t listen to his warning. On another note, it was out of character for Buffy to do this with Giles. When it came down to a real battle, she always listened to him. I know she was still mad at him for allowing the principal to attack and try to kill Spike but still.
Yup. Buffy by Season 7 has heaps of experience fighting people that are far stronger than her. Glory for example. Buffy is also a far more skilled fighter than Caleb. Buffy adapts quickly. Even two episodes later when she looks for the scythe Caleb can’t land a hit on her because she is too fast, even Buffy knows it.
@@socialmedianotfunanymorethe bigger issue I have is how out of character the writing for Giles was. They really assisted his character with poor writing/creative direction the final 2 seasons.
Un peligroso personaje el cura. Buena serie
Ex boyfriend?s face: it really has sense
Did she say the end is near or here?
This guy is an untouchable animal everyone is flying and getting necks snapped and stabbed would love to see Caleb vs Glory. Great to see faith get in on the act. I think Buffy was totally caught off guard here coming up against Caleb. Later she grew and then slewed.
Not exactly. At the end where she was angry enough she started fighting bak pretty well.
Glory would’ve destroyed Caleb.
Caleb the greatest big bad next to the mayor
Hopefully in the remake they can take it from this season we’re they find more slayers and so forth
Faith ❤️
2:03 Caleb literally make buffy fly
Caleb vs Drusilla. Who wins that one?
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@@acesaros6503 caleb absolutely
Spike claps her so he would too
How did caleb Get so strong? A Magic spell?
He was a willing vessel for the First. All his power was from the First.
When she’s angry and focus nothing can stop her (spike In s4, glory in the final..) when she’s in doubt / fear she’s not that good
4:19 Buffy i love you 😍
I remember seeing this as a kid and it fucked me up for yeeears
Caleb vs The Beast. Who’d win?
my money is on caleb lol
@@acesaros6503 Yeah I'd bet that too lol
The Beast in a good fight. I think they are pretty matched physically but the beast also has flight and magic on his side
It's different compared to the campy fight sequences, Xander screams in real pain this time, not just "that'll hurt in the morning"
Nathan f,awesome,this was to short,should have been at least 8 ep story.rp
Is it wrong to vouch for Caleb in this battle? Apart from him being a fake priest and an evil incarnate? Yes, it is wrong. Gougeing Xander's eye is where he crossed the line.
One of my favourite fight scenes of the entire series..."Nathan Fillion" as Caleb...brutal!. His calmness and wit whilst despatching the scoobies finest was quality. So, who's most of powerful?...Glory...or Illyria?...Caleb...or Hamilton?...or juiced-up Slayers?....Potential Slayer: (after seeing friends get neck snapped) ~ "NO!!!!"
Caleb [with wry grin]: ~..."Yes!"....
That part always makes me lol when one of the potential screams No!!! And Caleb calmly says yes!
@@Marvel_vs_Capcom84 IKR?...He says it so "matter of fact"...like there's no escape...like you have to breathe oxygen...for him, working for "The First" simply..."is"...And he's gonna do whatever it takes to impose the will of the first on the many...Ironic really...bit like World-Military and Tech Companies do [with governments as their mouthpiece]....
glory caleb and willow were my favorite villans
@@onedayatatime1494 Angelus?
@@Marvel_vs_Capcom84 he was a good one too i forgot about him because hes buffys first love and the guy she lost her virginity too which is what made angel evil how ironic
How did Buffy win the rematch? Not when she had the scythe but before that when he couldn't hit her
She didn’t exactly “win” then. She just dodged a lot and got to the Scythe. She outsmarted Caleb, but she couldn’t overpower her.
She outsmarted and out skilled him using her speed to her advantage she realises he was just playing with her in the beginning and here it shows so she goes on the offensive in the next fight.