F1 ON DAYTONA'S BANKING? Could F1 Handle: The Daytona Road Course
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- Опубліковано 13 лип 2024
- The plan was to try and set an F1 car up like an Indy Car but iRacing be 'nah'. So, the next best thing. But it's a hotly requested one so why not?
Daytona is probably the world's best known 'roval' as it hosts the 24hrs every year and has done since 1965 (or 66, can't recall) and it's a popular track in iRacing too.So then, with the release of the W12 still keeping everyone occupied, let's see what this bad boy will do on the Daytona banking!
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0:00 Intro
1:40 Track Guide
3:40 Driving
9:40 YOLO lap
12:26 Onboard and TV
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The mint green LMP2 that blows on by in the intro bit is Nando.
ALl pARt of EL PlAn!!!!!!!!!! 🤪🤪🤪🤪🤪🤪
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This has got to be more fun for the drivers than any stupid street circuit. And it's a classic track. If not there, Sebring? Road Atlanta? VIR? Just a few suggestions. 😉
@@y_fam_goeglyd Agree 1000%.... If he goes to Road Atlanta he can still smell the Colombian Gold...
And I still loved when Allmendinger ... rattled Allan McNish's cage to take the lead/ win at the 24. Some thought it dirty driving, but come on => AJ was racing to make team owner Shank have to get an AJAllmendinger Tattoo., Sometimes the stakes are higher than checkers or wreckers!
A standing start at the Daytona S/F line would be an... interesting sight to behold.
they would need a
Rolliiinnng Staaaartt
They’d probably have to tarmac the grass to give them a flat starting area 😅
Yes, it would
Just do like Mid Ohio and put the starting line somewhere else, or start them on the apron.
@@AidanMillward or move the S/F on the back stretch near the bus stop
"My most hated corner because there are 3 million lines and they're all wrong..."
Thank you for validating my feelings here. I'm glad it's not just me.
I ran it earlier at the other home of NASCAR, the ROVAL at Charlotte. You do spend half the lap in mid air thanks to the kerbs but it’s damn good fun.
I've done some running there but no long runs. It must shred the tires.
One of the Best thing ever happened so far in iracing, after lambo they gifted us this car, can't wait for the rain .
*in sim racing history
A Lambo? A UA-camrs, internet car lol
@@choppereight u don't like it ? Well I'm not a fan either, but I feel they r better than ferrari 😂.
Gifted ? You have to pay for it.
I’m liking this concept of seeing such a high quality version of the W12 at multiple tracks. Laguna Seca I think is a good shout.
Already did Laguna 😅
@@AidanMillward I would then say Kyalami because I’m about 10 minutes out from the track itself but I have a feeling that’s already been done as well.
@@prod.cozybeats2299 yep 🤣
@@AidanMillward gotta respect the workrate😂
Unfortunately South Africa has no other great tracks in an international sense so you have me stumped. We did host motogp at another track though I forget the name. Great battle between Max Biaggi and Vale Rossi.
@@prod.cozybeats2299 I hope you know that there are a ton of European fans (and undoubtedly Aussie, Kiwi, Canadian...) who would _love_ to go to Kyalami. Drop one of the 4 Arabian dust bowls and give us back a classic track, and in doing so, make it a real world championship!
I went to Ferrari's Finali Mondiali in Daytona I believe it was in 2017 or 2018. Seb and Kimi running a V8 and V10 car from the corsa cliente around the high banks was pretty epic. Also, there was a herd of 333SP's there, which was just as grand to listen to.
You could call this boring for f1 but, about the same number of corners for this track and the RedbullRing. Only big issue I see is that this would be a 53 lap race. Amendment barely having to brake into the bus stop also poses problems😐. This would also be the fastest track on the f1 calendar by a country mile. If Aiden can manage an average speed of 251 km/h, who know what the pros could do.
And remember that Daytona in iRacing don't have DRS zones enabled, so there is more time and speed in the table...
The reason there are no banked turns in F1 anymore is because the amount of downforce they generate it is extremely dangerous. If an F1 car hit an outside wall on the edge of the banking and flipped upside down chances are it would land in the spectator stand, because it would literally fly into the air... And if not it could still go a long way into the air before it crash lands with massive impact... Its okay for indycars because they do not produce the same amount of downforce
@@ShanleH zandvoort be like
@@shukriwafiq5220 zandvoort is a relatively shallow banking in comparison
If they were serious about bringing F1 to Daytona, they could create an alternate chicane for the F1 cars that would be much tighter and have more a real braking zone. Similar to how NGK chicane at the Nurburgring has alternate versions, depending on the category that is racing.
For everyone thinking about the standing still start, there used to be grid spots coming out of turn 4 on the frontstrech where there is no banking they could technically add it back
How about another Florida track that actually has already hosted an F1 race: Sebring. Murica!
Edit: I take this back. I don't want Aidan breaking his wrist.
Yeah, we know the answer to that one already honestly 😅
I’ve driven Sebring a few times on not as realistic sims and the bumps are brutal. I can’t imagine it on iracing
IndyCars which are built to handle way shitty surfaces than F1 cars can't even run the full track it's so beat up (albeit that's the charm). I think a modern F1 car may straight up vibrate itself apart on the airport tarmac section lol
I'm not sure an F1 car could survive Sebring...
@@willlasdf123 the bottom plank would be destroyed within half race distance on every car except the modern Haas, since the current has has no downforce, apparently.
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So as a Haas fan, I recant my statement. Let F1 race at Sebring, since the ONLY chance my favorite team has of winning a GP is if everyone else crashes out.
As a red blooded, pure bred American (meaning I'm German, Hungarian, and Norwegian).. I highly approve of this video..
Daytonas road course /is a blast to race in
"3 million lines and they're all wrong" is the PREFECT way to summarize that corner.
I saw Seb and Kimi run at Daytona Road I believe in 2017. It’s definitely possible
If f1 ever raced at this track it would have to be a rolling start
Or make a new start finish straight and pit complex
The thing is, the banking is so vertical that much of the load on the tires is also vertical and the turns so wide. It doesn't pull the tire from side to side like the banking at Indy or fast sweepers at Silverstone or Qatar
DAY-TO-NAAAAAAAA
LET'S GO REAL FAST!
Wow! Sim Racing on the channel again. Crazy! :-)
I love your content man. As an American I love seeing all the content on racing series we don't hear much about on this continent. I've learned so much about F1 BTCC, ect. I want to get in to sim racing but don't know where to start.
Start with assetto Corsa
It's dirt cheap and the stock content is serviceable
How about Martinsville? That flat little paperclip might be interesting to see. I remember trying it in ICR2 back in the day, and finding that the fastest way around involved running the corners in third gear. They're tight enough and flat enough to probably be 3rd/4th gear in an F1 car, too...
I'm glad I'm not the only one that dreads coming into turns 1 and 2
Enjoy the series and all your content Aidan.
Everyone on iRacing who has tried this cannot comprehend the braking and the grip. It really lifts the level of appreciation for the guys who do this in real life while dealing with G forces on top!
The way the steering goes super heavy in high load corners is insane.
But if the top iracers are several seconds a lap faster than me, it puts to bed the “anyone would win in that car” saying 🤣
@@AidanMillward that’s the thing though. I know a few of those at the pointy end and while they’re obviously faster, they can’t wrap their heads around it either. We can all sit here and be critical of all the drivers for not doing perfect laps every lap but trying it for ourselves has put a completely new spin on it.
It also makes a mockery of the “any monkey can drive it with all those aids” argument. I’m surprised a human can survive a lap in it at racing speed let alone get close to a perfect lap and have your mirrors full of max or Lewis
DAYTOOONAAAAA
Omg I was thinking the same thing. You must be old-ish like me. That was my first "sim" lol
ROLLLINNNGGG STAAAARRT
@@bramabull111 I'm not that old, I'm 22 but there was some Daytona USA and Cruis'n USA arcades in the shopping mall near where i live when i was child, even to this day you still find some here in Brazil but it's becoming rare
"If you know, you know"
No, Aidan, i don't know!
Me neither
Love that track!!
Daytona is a super simple track, but usually has amazing racing because of the slip streaming. I think F1 could race here with no DRS. And as a viewing experience, you can see most of the track from the top of the grand stands. It would suck if every F1 track was like Daytona, but Daytona would be so unique on the F1 calendar. As unique as Monaco, but the opposite side of the spectrum. Too many F1 tracks are very similar, the calendar needs more variety.
awesome video
Most difficult corner on the track: pit out. When a four time nascar cup champion spins it leaving the pits, you know its challenging
man, the speed you carry through the bus stop is crazy...
Yes Yes YESSSSSSSSSS thanks Aidan
Thank you
Got to love the W12, awesome car.
But now you've started Aidan, you have to complete the lunacy & do the Green Hell & Monza Banking.
Good luck.
Forza, iRacing, what ever... this is my favorite track. This year's MX5 cup races on the Daytona road course were INSANE, and the NASCAR races on modified road course (they added a 2nd chicane on the front stretch) were intense.
I m waiting for your take on that F1 season finale mate.
Love these. But the one thing I miss from the early ones is your view on whether it would be a good circuit to race F1 on, once you’ve tried it
Daytona road corse is probably one of my favourite tracks to drive in project cars 2 it’s essentially in GTE because I can’t afford a PC or iracing but it’s simple but fun I’d be interested to see an F1 race take place at Daytona to see what it is like
I’d love to see some more races at the Daytona infield, I love watching an entire race circuit that is more than just an oval
I really like the detail of the rear wing when you adjust it for low downforce tracks making it thinner
If you ever get the chance to see any series race at Daytona, take the chance. Ive been there a handful of times (in a working media capacity) and its one of those places everyone should go as a race fan. I mean its not Monza or Spa ... which would now be on my list of places I need to see automobiles race.
They should host some historical F1 events at Daytona in particular with the V10 cars.
I was at the Ferrari Finali Mondiali at Daytona in 2016. Kimi and Seb did just fine.
Your Engineer is such a CHAD. IYKYK
They can use the motorcycle layout and then add some pavement in the grass area below the banking
Every single time I watch ur intro I keep thinking of Freddy's laugh from FNAF (0:12)
This car is making me seriously consider a DD wheel. Already on a csl elite ps4 but damn DD seems to just be such an advantage. I’ve done a decent amount of real world tracking so anything that can put me closer to that feel, I’m in favor of. Now we just gotta find a way to make you feel the g forces.
Not racing but F1 cars have run on Daytona, Mick Schumacher took a F2004 round a couple of years ago and I think Nico took his championship winning car on it.
The ground effects next year will help on banks.
Can’t wait so Aidan pressing issues vid after yesterday’s race
I ran a race with a f1 2021 mod for rfactor 1 on this track and if rember correctly Mazipin took a podium
Looks a tricky track as there are no landmarks to spot a turn or braking point, it all looks like random bits of barrier and fencing sections aside from the outer banking
Daaayyyytooonaaaaaaaaaaa
Daytona beach!
Daaayyyytooonaaaaaaaaaaa
what would your thoughts be on moving pre season testing from catalunya to v.i.r.?
For this specific track, a simulation is best with a large pack of cars.
Nice 3 for dale
Now we know who taught Yuki Tsunoda how to shift.
1:33 are you referring to the Corvette Driver's Eye video at Daytona?
Let's go away!
Aidan, have you done a vid of the W12 around Watkins Glen?
Watkins Glen I did last week
Someone’s got a new toy…And he is using it at Bathurst, etc, etc….Christmas has come early.
Take it to the Glen! Short track with chicane is fever inducing on pcars2 with the FX I wonder what iracing f1 would be like there
if i remember right, Watkins Glen was originally an F1 course decades ago, so i don't imagine it would be too difficult to add it back to the calendar.
I don't think the tires would last unless they give way more extra sets However I'd be curious to see it. Also the safety issues of a car crashing on the banking or worse.
Theres a way to at least get the car to a point to where it will run a superspeedway somewhat well but without a way to just rip off the secondary wing elements and making the sideboards on the rear wing flat, you're definately not going above 200 for very long before your boost runs out. if you ask me, the best kind of oval F1 could run would be a short track like Richmond, New Hampshire, Milwaukee, Gateway, something short and relatively flat that isnt a bullring that would cause massive destruction but also nothing so long that you dont get any boost recharge.
Do-da do-da do-do-do-do do-do-dooooooooo...
DAYYYYYY-TOOOHN-AAAAAHHHH
LET"S GO AWAY!
I got to go to the shortened 2019 Rolex 24. You can't believe on how much of the track you can see at the top of the nose bleed bleachers.
Now try it with the full oval and see if the tyres overheat. Then play game. What goes off first, the tyres or the engine.
This is the one track i want to see formula 1 at more then any other. I kinda wish they could do a full oval lap then the inner street course as a single lap. With the new aero philosophy, they should be great in a draft train
You know what I want to see. Do you know that Fuji 1967 model for Asseto Corsa. I want to see what a modern F1 car does there.
“You spelt center wrong” lmfaoo
Could you please try the Charlotte Roval?
Ok but now you gotta do the Homestead Miami road course and try to not break everything going into the front straight
This car looks enormous around here even in a simulator
What is the "if you know, you know" video you referenced?
twitter.com/drivethrough_/status/1219096911820611584?s=21 this.
@@AidanMillward this is the best commentating of a lap I have ever seen thank you 😂
They could use the motorcycle course, it has only one banked turn.
W12 at Lagua Seca next?
Come on Aidan, get ya Championship finale video out. We are all dying to hear your thoughts.
I wonder if he wants to see any potential overturn or he's just that mad at the result lol
Do one at mondello pleeeeeezz! 🙏
It would be interesting to see if a f1 car would be flat for a full lap at Bristol. Also for F1 to try the roval would be worth a watch.
Kneebon5 already did it and got 9.99
@@AidanMillward thank you, after 5 seconds of watching confirmation the fact that f1 will never go to a short track.
The real question is: Is the RaceRoom FRX17 comperable?
Can you imagine what time you could do with DRS and a tow on the banking?
Be half a second just in DRS
Take this car and run it around Dort Bristol or one of the 0.25-7/8 mile dirt ovals
Who hooo yea Bebe
Could F1 handle Daytona's Advanced or Expert courses, though?
...how long would it take to race a Go-Kart around Spa Francochamps...?
Try PC2 Theres plenty of tracks plus Go-Karts.
9 burger run!
Do go karts on Daytona
why does the infield remind me of winton?
How about the oval?
Have you done this at Laguna Seca yet?
Yep.
Ok, thanks! 👍
Taking the bus stop at 200 km/h is just insane.
It’s in mph
@@louisbeerreviews8964 Yeah, just realized that. Still, having a speed more than 200 km/h at that section is really something. A 300 km/h entry too...
"They spelled 'Center' wrong"
As an Amernican I can say that is correct, it is spelled wrong.
Canada - colour centre
Murica- color center
I’m amazed they didn’t called it the USS Enterprize, using all those Zees.
the petit lemans track would be epic for f1 but a bit dangerous.. but after last week's f1 catastrophe. i doubt they could say no on the count of safety concerns could they?!?!?!?
GP4 version when?
I just got the car:)
This should be the USGP
8:29 Cleetus McFarland Reference
I think more would survive this than Bathurst at least.
Edit: Safer than Rockingham Speedway?
Could F1 Handle: Mid Ohio Sports Car Course.
Could F1 handle Cadwell? No but would be cool to watch.
Wouldn't fuel efficiency be tricky here? I guess or maybe guarantee that cars will burn through their gas tank at the speed of light. F1 in daytona would be probable if they bring back re-fueling.
I don't know...
There are enough infield access and campground roads, that with a bit of modifications you can exclude the main banks entirely, probably will need the front stretch bank though but that is equivalent to zandvoort in terms of degrees of banking
Certainly there’s the scope for making a circuit. The existing “road” track looks a bit dull and spends too much time too fast on the banking. If they ever announced it happening I’d buy shares in tech pro as they are going to need a lot of barriers