BS junk. The dash and seating arrangement are easy to get right. I have a 308 and it took me 5 minutes to get the right driving position, and all the dash ws easily seen, and the small steering wheel encourages better control. WTF why you want to sit low is beyond me, as this not the way to be able to observe what is around you.
I have this car and love it. It's not designed for the race track. The little engine works brilliantly and you simply need to adjust the steering wheel and the seat height to solve the icockpit 'problem' . Boot is cavernous. Very comfortable and well equipped. That was a very childish review.
Yet if this car was German the boot would be plenty, steering wheel would be revolutionary and the engine would be perfect for everyone. Just saying……..
I haven't driven the 408 but after driving a few days the 3008 with the same small driving wheel, i cannot go back to the bulky wheels other manufacturers offer. You can see the display above the wheel and it is perfect and nimble.
Proud owner Here 🤨 the Performance is simply adequate I m not planning it to take it to the Track it's a family car however it tops at around 130mph on paper you don't need much more than that Engines downsize is happening to all Manufacturers even Mercedes & BMW all in name of Emissions not just French cars I don't think anyone should be surprised by the current reality 🤦
Same here mate, it does exactly what I need it to do and of all the cars I've ever owned it has been the most enjoyable to own. 1 year on and it's still turns heads everyday. Enjoy.
@@niceboy60 exactly... The reality is either a small petrol engine, some form of hybrid (heavier, worse handling), a PHEV (even heavier, even worse handling) or full electric (range anxiety, worse handling, massive depreciation). It's all kinds of bad choices now. I miss late 90s - late 00s cars. Peak car days!
Guys it might be Small however it's Extremely powerful one guy reached around 140 mph, Real speed might only be around 132 mph however very impressive for a 1.2 to cruise at this high speeds ua-cam.com/users/shorts5xWuOLi9KYM?feature=shared
@@niceboy60 yes, I've pointed out in several other replies that the reviewers were being rather ignorant. The engine is perfectly capable. It hauls the 3008 , which is the same weight, very well. 130bhp, 230Nm torque and 0-60mph of 10.1s, all with realmpg of 38mpg (due to the EAT8 - if it was a manual, that would be about 42mpg). It's very, very impressive. If only they didn't have that wet belt, there would be no marks against it. Even then, if you do the required oil changes well within schedule and keep an eye on the condition of that belt and change it as soon as there's any sign of cracking, that's not such a huge issue. Sometimes people do get bitten despite trying to do everything right, but that's quite rare from what I understand.
Outside of Europe it comes with a 1.6L 4 Cylinder (non hybrid) with 215hp. That is the best version by far. It's unfortunate that isn't even an option for you 🫤@@AndrewSowerby
I know it's "only" a 1.2 with 130hp, but let's be fair, about 15 years ago you needed a 2.0 diesel to get similar horsepower, and you paid a weight penalty. Also, 3:04 - adjust the reach of the steering wheel a bit, maybe?
@@stephandolby yes exactly. There are lots of larger petrols (1.4, 1.5 etc.) that still don't produce 130bhp and nothing like 230Nm or torque. You can get the Ateca/Karoq/Tiguan with a 1.0 TSI 110bhp if you want to be really silly. It's a shame Peugeot dropped some of the older engine options from this 408 in the UK and Ireland. The DW10 2.0 HDI would be great in this thing if you wanted a motorway mile muncher. Or maybe the 1.6 petrol for a more gutsy performance. Instead, you only have the 1.2 MHEV 136HP and the PHEV, which comes with a serious handling penalty due to all the extra weight. Sorry to say, but the 3008 was better, with more engine options and, oddly, better handling results in the moose test. This 408 only matches a Golf, which is rather poor, whereas the 3008 defies physics and beats most *cars*, nevermind SUVs.
I have a 408 and am very happy with it, it's a great car. I'm not sure a review where you try to overfill the boot and laugh at the car is of much use to anyone. We brought it to France for a two week holiday and got everything in the boot no problem.
I think all the new Peugeot line are best looking cars on the road apart from the Audi's I hated Peugeot cars in the early 2000s and 2010s now they are back !!
Wet belts are not particular to them these days, almost all small turbo charged engine has one and the Stellantis ones are actually one of the easiest and cheapest to replace. Honda Civic MK10 1.0L which is a car that I actually like, has a bill of £2000 to replace if caught early or £7000 for a new engine if not caught on time.
They have not changed it I have this car shown in the video the wetbelt is still there I hope they have done some serious improvements 🤔 Power wise is fine it has loads of Torque 170ft, Toyota 1.8 engine only has 104ft Torque is more important than HP because it's what pulls Trucks uphill with heavy loads
I invite you to watch reviews on German language channels (I'm Austrian), I watched Swiss, German, Austrian channels, all say it's an excellent car. They really go in depth about cars, some reviews last more than one hour, they go deep into details. Everything the Fifth gear clowns don't do.
The program and the team test have a fun side about it and that's part of what I love in Fifth Gear, but this was really one of the weakest tests I've seen on it. Like @ruicvt expressed, there was no "juice" in the test.
@@ruicvt is disappointing they Criticized the Engine size but fail to Mentioned the Torque which is quite respectable 170ft This is actually one of the Fastest Crossovers with a Top speed of 130 Mph Kia Sportage with 226hp 1.6t Turbo only reaches around 119mph ua-cam.com/users/shortsT3jwFD1suf8?feature=shared
You're making the obvious mistake! This `review' isn't for you! It's solely meant for the Fifth Gear trio to have fun arseing about in a Press car and being paid lots of dosh for it! Any resemblance to actual testing or serious criticism is unintentional!
The wheel needs to sit closer to you and lower down so you in more of a race car position, so the wheel points more at your chest and not your head. Peugeot should really be explaining this people.
Any other car feels like driving a bus after driving the Peugeots. The small steering wheels really grow on you and you won't want to go back after you get used to them.
When I turn the steering wheel my eyes are usually on the road and surroundings not at speedometer. I only look at the speedo cluster when driving straight. I have been driving a 3008 for the past year the steering position is excellent for me
Their driving Skills are impressive however they have no Clue how engines Work 🤷🤦 1 - Engine Size is irrelevant 2- What is irrelevant is Engine Torque 3- And Horse Power . this 1.2 Engine is a bit low on HP however it's 130 hp it's still more than Toyota 1.8L 120HP Where this Engine Shines is Torque , Pulling Power Toyota 1.8 Has 104ft this 1.2 Engine has 170ft Pulling Power is what pulls Trucks uphill with heavy loads even Toyota 2.0L Has Lower top speed & only has around 140ft pulling power . This 1.2 Car still Maxes at around 130mph vs Toyota 106mph which in my umbel opinion for Family cars they are both adequate
Go explain that to Fifth Gear hosts, they are totally incompetent. Such level of incompetence really shocks me. This is 2024, I can't comprehend how it is possible for hosts not to do their homework before the test. They don't respect viewers. No intelligence nor integrity, just incompetence and pettiness.
When turning a traditional steering wheel you cant see rhe dials either as the spokes and airbag getw in the way. I love rhe steering wheel when you adjust it properly. You actually have a better view more of the time
With a round wheel the radius is larger, which takes more steering lock to cause the blockage you're referring to. . I do think it just takes getting used to either way, but I've always preferred looking through a larger round wheel - rather than over a smaller squircle.
I've currently leased this car in gt line spec in grey. Build quality is great. Style is superb. Steering wheel is great once positioned correctly. Engine is fine for everday use. Only fault is a slight delay in acceleration from when stationery . Overall a good all round value family car.
I ve checked your Engine Specs & Compared the Mazda 2.0 with the 1.2L engine 3 Cylinder And concluded the 1.2 Cylinder is Better 😳 Heres why it has more Torque at around 177ft which is more important than horse power that's the Pulling Power, it has a Higher Top Speed ua-cam.com/users/shorts5xWuOLi9KYM?feature=shared plus it has better fuel economy by about 70 miles extra per Tank 🤷 Size does not matter 😳
Wait the 1.2 3 Cylinder sounds better also I heard the 1.2, I ve Hired the 1.6 Hybrid from Peugeut I heard the 2.0L from Mazda and to my Surprise the 1.2 , 3 Cylinder sounds better Theres a distinctive Growling coming from the 1.2 puretech, put some headphones and listen to it, you will know what I mean
@@niceboy60 Peugeot THP 1.2 is garbage. You will find enough examples on the internet. 2.0 goes 300.000km easy. Downsize engine's are good for 100.00 a 150.000km.
Several issues - pathetic engine , list price vrs depreciation and its looks both inside and outside will mean a small market to sell it on ….plus those steering wheels are t the best when it comes to adding in car security items like steering locks
Hey FIFTH GEAR, your review exposes that you are not competent in your business. This Peugeot 408 is a formidable car. You don't get how a car engine works. It's not size that matters, it's torque and horse power. This 1.2L Peugeot engine develops very good power for its size (170 feet pulling power, max speed 130 mph). Don't judge a car engine on its size. Judge it on its performance ! ALWAYS ! Tech has improved so much that now, even a "small engine" of 1.2 L develops more than power than a mid size engine (2.0 L) of 10 years ago. It's really important to understand that. That car is NOT under powered. It's just that its "small engine" really is performant. I worked 27 years as a Performance Engineer for VW Group (14 years for Audi), it baffles me that you don't understand that. You are not competent. Did you vote for the Brexit, by any chance ?
Your post needs a 100 thumbs up 👍. My 2008 1.2 leaves bigger Audi or BMW behind at lights and on the motorway. It is only much bigger engines that pull away from it. It is frugal with petrol and very responsive. Feels great to drive.
Are these 1.2 engines with turbo and wet belt timers actually reliable ? Or are customers being fooled into buying these miniscule engines which become money pit after 70k KMS?
You are getting distracted, engine size is not an indication of Horse power nor Torque Torque is actually the most important Figure, because it allows Trucks to pull heavy loads uphill, this 1.2l engine has 170ft compare with Toyota 1.8l 104ft
@@lp5627 I do actually understand it... I'm a mechanical engineer thanks. A highly stressed 3 cylinder engine struggling to pull a large car... Will not have longevity.
is actuality one of the Fastest Crossovers in the UK 😳🤨🤷 Toyota 1.8 vvt Maxes out at 106 Mph New Kia Sportage 226hp 1.6h Maxes out at 120mph This 1.2L maxes out at 130mph and according with the video posted its still quite & composed Meaning For Germany it wouldn't be restricting Traffic it has 170ft of Torque which is very good for small engine Toyota only has 104ft ua-cam.com/users/shortsXaqBaQrurXY?si=kF0Ns-AGLfnKc0KY
I have had a 408 1.2L for the past 12 months. It's brilliant and have no issues with it it given the comments these clowns have mentioned! This is 5th Gear and they only want people to by idiotic cars that cost more than any mortgage due to them being petrol heads!!! I recommend the 408 as it's brilliant 😅
TBH...Peugeot designs are rather good looking these days, however I feel its not the car for me, I also have a gripe with the steering wheel in all their cars, if its not petite, its a weired design, I prefer Renault cars than them.
You got screwed in Europe - because outside of Europe it has a 215ps 1.6L Turbo engine. . But In Europe you can get one of the PHEVs - Either 180ps from a 1.6L 4 cylinder hybrid or 225ps from a Tuned up version in the GT
Kind of a bummer that they chose that engine and that placement of the steering wheel and instrument cluster, Peugeot have really figured out haptics and material, the design is alright, a bit fragmented maybe, but not an ugly car. Could've and should've been a bigger success than it's going to be.
I'd be curious to see you all test the Citroen C5X as; on paper; it would seem to fix the two biggest problems....the stupid steering wheel,and the engine capacity being too small.
After all these years they are still producing the same Naff basic reviews that others do so much better ie Carwow etc You cannot mark the car just on one model of engine and then mark it down!!! They do make more powerful engines you know!! and you're supposed to put yourself in a driving position where you can look over it not at it.
I cannot think of a bigger act of self sabotage than the engines in this car and indeed the 508. Its such a lovely car outside and in. I've seen one in the metal but it's hobbled by that daft motor and actually, while the design of the interior is amazing the material and build quality is rather shoddy. For me the best car they make is the 208 with this same engine and even there it has the chassis to take much more. I don't have too much a problem with the steering though. I actually can see over the top and its rather nice and open not to be blinkered by the rim of the steering wheel. I honestly would have bought this car, build quality and all if had a better motor. But as is, its a miss.
Late 2022 / early 2023 going by the car’s registration number. Personally I couldn't live with any current Peugeot with that stupid small steering wheel, that is flat at the top & bottom, rather than completely round!
It was on my list, because i love the design, but the engine selection is bad. 3-cyl 1.2....then a huuuge price jump and a plug in hybrid. Such a shame.
I own 408 as company car with 1.2, my wife has 5008 Gt with 2.0hdi, in my garage i have another 3 weekend toys, Civic type r 2.0, Alfa GT 3.2 V6 busso, and Maserati Granturismo S 4.7 V8 F1. If you look for an allrounder that will not disappoint you and gives you feel special on the road 408 1.2 does the job(nobody sees the 3cyl from the outside and the overall dynamics does not tell it either). Commuting to the job, making vacations with family of 4 not an issue at all, I love it. The engine is enough even for higher highway speeds, spins 2400rpm at 140kph. And the car is super silent inside(even has double glazing) actually its the first car in my life i listen to the music. I would only recommend to go for the mild hybrid cause it has timing chain instead of belt and mild electric thats +- same price makes it even more silent in the city
Hate Peugeot would never buy one and what a ridiculous steering wheel design 😤 can’t see the the dash, wouldn’t it be better with a heads up display 🤷🏻
Finally finally someone says something about Peugeots incompetence...how come a car has a steering wheel that blocks the Vue to the instruments...how will the driver know the speed of the vehicle?Maybe that silly AI has a direct line to Darth Vader and uses the force to know how fast the car is travelling...amateurs😮.
Have one nice car love the steering wheel ,drop it slightly no problems, i get in my wifes clio and its like your steering a bus the steering wheel feels too big just my opinion
Get rid of the third wheel, keep those two decent drivers and experienced hosts. Dude's worried about not being able to read instrument cluster while having steering lock on? You've got two great drivers and you put them both in passenger gear seats? Wondering why your production isn't getting top gear, um, traction?
They're still using the old fifth gear format for the show. It's nothing to do if he can't read the instrument panel. They should consider going closer to the top gear format with the show.
It's not only underpowered but under displaced, these small overstressed engines are a disaster and they're only economical on paper, in the real world a 2.0 or even 3.0 would get better mileage
A bit Harsh Review of a French Car 🚗 literallly all Car manufacturers are down sizing engines ,even Mercedes & BMW , this car competes with the Qashcai and others don't expect to find the 4.0L V8 of that either
Frankly I'm surprised Jason Plato and Vicki are back. I feel the show could of had a new refresh and updated the format to be honest. I was expecting more change
overall a much compromised car and PSA is one manufacturer desperately clinging onto the EU's killer tariffs on Chinese cars. UK and EU consumers being shafted.
I find that review absolutely pathetic. You are grossly biaised against that car, simply because it's a French one. If it had a German badge, you would have given it a solid 8, I'm pretty sure of that. And no, I am not French, I am Austrian. Totally unprofessional and petty reviewers, British standards of journalism, what could go wrong?
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BS junk. The dash and seating arrangement are easy to get right. I have a 308 and it took me 5 minutes to get the right driving position, and all the dash ws easily seen, and the small steering wheel encourages better control. WTF why you want to sit low is beyond me, as this not the way to be able to observe what is around you.
@@isthereanybodyoutthere9397 They did that on purpose , just to trash talk the car.
You guys should better advertise that the show is back. I just found out today and only because I searched for this channel
Missed you guys. What a great team and format.
I have this car and love it. It's not designed for the race track. The little engine works brilliantly and you simply need to adjust the steering wheel and the seat height to solve the icockpit 'problem' . Boot is cavernous. Very comfortable and well equipped. That was a very childish review.
Yet if this car was German the boot would be plenty, steering wheel would be revolutionary and the engine would be perfect for everyone. Just saying……..
Exactly, they profoundly biaised against French cars, that's so obvious to anyone that has a brain.
I haven't driven the 408 but after driving a few days the 3008 with the same small driving wheel, i cannot go back to the bulky wheels other manufacturers offer. You can see the display above the wheel and it is perfect and nimble.
as usual they forget who the audience is for a car like this and how it'll be used.
Proud owner Here 🤨 the Performance is simply adequate I m not planning it to take it to the Track it's a family car however it tops at around 130mph on paper you don't need much more than that
Engines downsize is happening to all Manufacturers even Mercedes & BMW all in name of Emissions not just French cars
I don't think anyone should be surprised by the current reality 🤦
Same here mate, it does exactly what I need it to do and of all the cars I've ever owned it has been the most enjoyable to own.
1 year on and it's still turns heads everyday.
Enjoy.
@@niceboy60 exactly... The reality is either a small petrol engine, some form of hybrid (heavier, worse handling), a PHEV (even heavier, even worse handling) or full electric (range anxiety, worse handling, massive depreciation).
It's all kinds of bad choices now. I miss late 90s - late 00s cars. Peak car days!
Guys it might be Small however it's Extremely powerful one guy reached around 140 mph, Real speed might only be around 132 mph however very impressive for a 1.2 to cruise at this high speeds
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@@niceboy60 yes, I've pointed out in several other replies that the reviewers were being rather ignorant. The engine is perfectly capable. It hauls the 3008 , which is the same weight, very well. 130bhp, 230Nm torque and 0-60mph of 10.1s, all with realmpg of 38mpg (due to the EAT8 - if it was a manual, that would be about 42mpg).
It's very, very impressive. If only they didn't have that wet belt, there would be no marks against it. Even then, if you do the required oil changes well within schedule and keep an eye on the condition of that belt and change it as soon as there's any sign of cracking, that's not such a huge issue. Sometimes people do get bitten despite trying to do everything right, but that's quite rare from what I understand.
Outside of Europe it comes with a 1.6L 4 Cylinder (non hybrid) with 215hp. That is the best version by far. It's unfortunate that isn't even an option for you 🫤@@AndrewSowerby
I know it's "only" a 1.2 with 130hp, but let's be fair, about 15 years ago you needed a 2.0 diesel to get similar horsepower, and you paid a weight penalty.
Also, 3:04 - adjust the reach of the steering wheel a bit, maybe?
@@stephandolby yes exactly. There are lots of larger petrols (1.4, 1.5 etc.) that still don't produce 130bhp and nothing like 230Nm or torque. You can get the Ateca/Karoq/Tiguan with a 1.0 TSI 110bhp if you want to be really silly. It's a shame Peugeot dropped some of the older engine options from this 408 in the UK and Ireland. The DW10 2.0 HDI would be great in this thing if you wanted a motorway mile muncher. Or maybe the 1.6 petrol for a more gutsy performance. Instead, you only have the 1.2 MHEV 136HP and the PHEV, which comes with a serious handling penalty due to all the extra weight.
Sorry to say, but the 3008 was better, with more engine options and, oddly, better handling results in the moose test. This 408 only matches a Golf, which is rather poor, whereas the 3008 defies physics and beats most *cars*, nevermind SUVs.
I have a 408 and am very happy with it, it's a great car. I'm not sure a review where you try to overfill the boot and laugh at the car is of much use to anyone. We brought it to France for a two week holiday and got everything in the boot no problem.
I think all the new Peugeot line are best looking cars on the road apart from the Audi's I hated Peugeot cars in the early 2000s and 2010s now they are back !!
you have to look over the wheel, not through it
3 cylinder 1.2 litre - that'll have the wetbelt then? Good luck with that.
Not anymore, they changed them to chain
@@alexanderstefanov6474 Ah, good. Wish they’d recall and convert all the cars with these dodgy belts!
Wet belts are not particular to them these days, almost all small turbo charged engine has one and the Stellantis ones are actually one of the easiest and cheapest to replace. Honda Civic MK10 1.0L which is a car that I actually like, has a bill of £2000 to replace if caught early or £7000 for a new engine if not caught on time.
They have not changed it I have this car shown in the video the wetbelt is still there
I hope they have done some serious improvements 🤔
Power wise is fine it has loads of Torque 170ft, Toyota 1.8 engine only has 104ft
Torque is more important than HP because it's what pulls Trucks uphill with heavy loads
@@lp5627The newer versions with e-DCT6 gearbox apparently have chain.
This needs adjusting steering wheel position. It must go down. Peugeot i-cockpit is very convenient.
Not a word about confort, handling.... Mediocre mini review
I invite you to watch reviews on German language channels (I'm Austrian), I watched Swiss, German, Austrian channels, all say it's an excellent car. They really go in depth about cars, some reviews last more than one hour, they go deep into details. Everything the Fifth gear clowns don't do.
The program and the team test have a fun side about it and that's part of what I love in Fifth Gear, but this was really one of the weakest tests I've seen on it. Like @ruicvt expressed, there was no "juice" in the test.
@@ruicvt is disappointing they Criticized the Engine size but fail to Mentioned the Torque which is quite respectable 170ft
This is actually one of the Fastest Crossovers with a Top speed of 130 Mph
Kia Sportage with 226hp 1.6t Turbo only reaches around 119mph
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You're making the obvious mistake! This `review' isn't for you! It's solely meant for the Fifth Gear trio to have fun arseing about in a Press car and being paid lots of dosh for it! Any resemblance to actual testing or serious criticism is unintentional!
I sit as low as possible, with the wheel set low and I have absolutely no problem with seeing my dials.
The wheel needs to sit closer to you and lower down so you in more of a race car position, so the wheel points more at your chest and not your head.
Peugeot should really be explaining this people.
Personally I quite like it - looks very flashy and from what I've heard, generally good all round.
Fun fact this 408 only comes with a 1.6 turbo in my country of Vietnam. Which solves its biggest issue with having no power at all
Did the Mercedes AMG Engineers downsized their Engines 🤨🤔
Literally all Cars Manufacturers are doing that don't hate French cars they are great
Yeh exactly, the Mercedes 'c63 amg' is a 2 litre now
Any other car feels like driving a bus after driving the Peugeots. The small steering wheels really grow on you and you won't want to go back after you get used to them.
When I turn the steering wheel my eyes are usually on the road and surroundings not at speedometer. I only look at the speedo cluster when driving straight. I have been driving a 3008 for the past year the steering position is excellent for me
Fifth Gear, team test is the BEST !
Their driving Skills are impressive however they have no Clue how engines Work 🤷🤦
1 - Engine Size is irrelevant
2- What is irrelevant is Engine Torque
3- And Horse Power
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this 1.2 Engine is a bit low on HP however it's 130 hp it's still more than Toyota 1.8L 120HP
Where this Engine Shines is Torque , Pulling Power Toyota 1.8 Has 104ft this 1.2 Engine has 170ft Pulling Power is what pulls Trucks uphill with heavy loads even Toyota 2.0L Has Lower top speed & only has around 140ft pulling power
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This 1.2 Car still Maxes at around 130mph vs Toyota 106mph which in my umbel opinion for Family cars they are both adequate
Go explain that to Fifth Gear hosts, they are totally incompetent. Such level of incompetence really shocks me. This is 2024, I can't comprehend how it is possible for hosts not to do their homework before the test. They don't respect viewers. No intelligence nor integrity, just incompetence and pettiness.
Hello Rory
I hate the steering wheel and instrument position. I'm sure Peugeot lose sales because of it as many people say the same
When turning a traditional steering wheel you cant see rhe dials either as the spokes and airbag getw in the way. I love rhe steering wheel when you adjust it properly. You actually have a better view more of the time
With a round wheel the radius is larger, which takes more steering lock to cause the blockage you're referring to.
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I do think it just takes getting used to either way, but I've always preferred looking through a larger round wheel - rather than over a smaller squircle.
This is what fifth gear is about! Really enjoyed this. Please get Tiff.
I've currently leased this car in gt line spec in grey.
Build quality is great.
Style is superb.
Steering wheel is great once positioned correctly.
Engine is fine for everday use.
Only fault is a slight delay in acceleration from when stationery .
Overall a good all round value family car.
Needs to have a 3 litre V6 Turbo with 350 BHP minimum.
Rather have 2.0 i4 N/A with 140BHP like Mazda then an 1.2 3cilinder
I ve checked your Engine Specs & Compared the Mazda 2.0 with the 1.2L engine 3 Cylinder
And concluded the 1.2 Cylinder is Better 😳
Heres why it has more Torque at around 177ft which is more important than horse power that's the Pulling Power, it has a Higher Top Speed
ua-cam.com/users/shorts5xWuOLi9KYM?feature=shared plus it has better fuel economy by about 70 miles extra per Tank 🤷
Size does not matter 😳
Wait the 1.2 3 Cylinder sounds better also
I heard the 1.2, I ve Hired the 1.6 Hybrid from Peugeut I heard the 2.0L from Mazda and to my Surprise the 1.2 , 3 Cylinder sounds better
Theres a distinctive Growling coming from the 1.2 puretech, put some headphones and listen to it, you will know what I mean
@@niceboy60 Peugeot THP 1.2 is garbage. You will find enough examples on the internet. 2.0 goes 300.000km easy. Downsize engine's are good for 100.00 a 150.000km.
Several issues - pathetic engine , list price vrs depreciation and its looks both inside and outside will mean a small market to sell it on ….plus those steering wheels are t the best when it comes to adding in car security items like steering locks
Bring back Tiff.where is your team spirit.learn from top gear
The bloke is 72... he probably wants to retire 🤣
Hey FIFTH GEAR, your review exposes that you are not competent in your business.
This Peugeot 408 is a formidable car.
You don't get how a car engine works. It's not size that matters, it's torque and horse power. This 1.2L Peugeot engine develops very good power for its size (170 feet pulling power, max speed 130 mph).
Don't judge a car engine on its size.
Judge it on its performance ! ALWAYS !
Tech has improved so much that now, even a "small engine" of 1.2 L develops more than power than a mid size engine (2.0 L) of 10 years ago.
It's really important to understand that. That car is NOT under powered. It's just that its "small engine" really is performant.
I worked 27 years as a Performance Engineer for VW Group (14 years for Audi), it baffles me that you don't understand that.
You are not competent.
Did you vote for the Brexit, by any chance ?
a small engine working hard won't last.
even a Prius has 4 cylinders these days.
@@wim0104The poster worked for VW ... what is your expertise on engines?
Your post needs a 100 thumbs up 👍. My 2008 1.2 leaves bigger Audi or BMW behind at lights and on the motorway. It is only much bigger engines that pull away from it. It is frugal with petrol and very responsive. Feels great to drive.
@@wim0104 Excuse me, where did you get that from ? Who told you that ?
Are these 1.2 engines with turbo and wet belt timers actually reliable ? Or are customers being fooled into buying these miniscule engines which become money pit after 70k KMS?
The team is finally back ❤❤❤
Awesome 😎😎
Sorry but I'm 100% out when I heard about the three cylinder engine.
You are getting distracted, engine size is not an indication of Horse power nor Torque
Torque is actually the most important Figure, because it allows Trucks to pull heavy loads uphill, this 1.2l engine has 170ft compare with Toyota 1.8l 104ft
@@lp5627 I do actually understand it... I'm a mechanical engineer thanks. A highly stressed 3 cylinder engine struggling to pull a large car... Will not have longevity.
Peugeot on looks impressive
On engine and power nope,
Beautiful cars like this should have a good 1.6 250hp
And actually it came with 1.6T 218HP in my country.
@@hdao.1509 Malaysia I think
@@tochukwuezinwa2122 Vietnam mate. Quite a stiff price, but its quite ok for my liking
is actuality one of the Fastest Crossovers in the UK 😳🤨🤷
Toyota 1.8 vvt Maxes out at 106 Mph
New Kia Sportage 226hp 1.6h Maxes out at 120mph
This 1.2L maxes out at 130mph and according with the video posted its still quite & composed
Meaning For Germany it wouldn't be restricting Traffic it has 170ft of Torque which is very good for small engine Toyota only has 104ft
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They do a 222hp version
6:31 I can't stop laughing at that. That is gold. 🤣🤣🤣
I think it looks fantastic. I’ve seen a few on the road and it’s a head turner. But a 1.2 engine. I just don’t get it at all. What is the benefit?
I have had a 408 1.2L for the past 12 months.
It's brilliant and have no issues with it it given the comments these clowns have mentioned!
This is 5th Gear and they only want people to by idiotic cars that cost more than any mortgage due to them being petrol heads!!!
I recommend the 408 as it's brilliant 😅
Middle east gets a 1.6 petrol thats not a hybrid with 215 hp, its a much better engine and fits the category Peugeot places this car in
TBH...Peugeot designs are rather good looking these days, however I feel its not the car for me, I also have a gripe with the steering wheel in all their cars, if its not petite, its a weired design, I prefer Renault cars than them.
Great you are BACK!
You got screwed in Europe - because outside of Europe it has a 215ps 1.6L Turbo engine.
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But In Europe you can get one of the PHEVs - Either 180ps from a 1.6L 4 cylinder hybrid or 225ps from a Tuned up version in the GT
I like it and there’s a lot going for it. But that engine is way underwhelming in my opinion. I’ve driven one too and it’s definitely underpowered.
Why not test the 1.6 litre engine instead ??
Kind of a bummer that they chose that engine and that placement of the steering wheel and instrument cluster, Peugeot have really figured out haptics and material, the design is alright, a bit fragmented maybe, but not an ugly car. Could've and should've been a bigger success than it's going to be.
I'd be curious to see you all test the Citroen C5X as; on paper; it would seem to fix the two biggest problems....the stupid steering wheel,and the engine capacity being too small.
After all these years they are still producing the same Naff basic reviews that others do so much better ie Carwow etc You cannot mark the car just on one model of engine and then mark it down!!! They do make more powerful engines you know!! and you're supposed to put yourself in a driving position where you can look over it not at it.
I thought you were getting out of the car to push it to help that little engine. :)
Like all Peugeot from 2000 on, it will break soon.
This Mach-E owner agrees; it definitely resembles a Mach-E with less headroom.
I had one for a year , really quick but no very comfortable, as for the steering wheel, just lower it ,,
I cannot think of a bigger act of self sabotage than the engines in this car and indeed the 508. Its such a lovely car outside and in. I've seen one in the metal but it's hobbled by that daft motor and actually, while the design of the interior is amazing the material and build quality is rather shoddy. For me the best car they make is the 208 with this same engine and even there it has the chassis to take much more. I don't have too much a problem with the steering though. I actually can see over the top and its rather nice and open not to be blinkered by the rim of the steering wheel.
I honestly would have bought this car, build quality and all if had a better motor. But as is, its a miss.
How old is this video?
Late 2022 / early 2023 going by the car’s registration number. Personally I couldn't live with any current Peugeot with that stupid small steering wheel, that is flat at the top & bottom, rather than completely round!
@@sthillarys52 That is what I was thinking, based on plate. So maybe an old reupload?
How are you Vicky? I hope you’re ok lady x
It was on my list, because i love the design, but the engine selection is bad. 3-cyl 1.2....then a huuuge price jump and a plug in hybrid. Such a shame.
I own 408 as company car with 1.2, my wife has 5008 Gt with 2.0hdi, in my garage i have another 3 weekend toys, Civic type r 2.0, Alfa GT 3.2 V6 busso, and Maserati Granturismo S 4.7 V8 F1. If you look for an allrounder that will not disappoint you and gives you feel special on the road 408 1.2 does the job(nobody sees the 3cyl from the outside and the overall dynamics does not tell it either). Commuting to the job, making vacations with family of 4 not an issue at all, I love it. The engine is enough even for higher highway speeds, spins 2400rpm at 140kph. And the car is super silent inside(even has double glazing) actually its the first car in my life i listen to the music. I would only recommend to go for the mild hybrid cause it has timing chain instead of belt and mild electric thats +- same price makes it even more silent in the city
Test drive the 1.6 version 👍🏻👍🏻
Hate Peugeot would never buy one and what a ridiculous steering wheel design 😤 can’t see the the dash, wouldn’t it be better with a heads up display 🤷🏻
Didn't know platos back, happy days. Someone should hire him to fix the btcc, which has become so boring i use it as a sleep aid.
In Malaysia, we get the 1.6 200hp version!
Can somebody tell Rory to stop being so intense in his presenting style? Total put off. Can’t stand it
Bit of a silly comment that you can't see over it when turning it... Can you see through the spokes of steering wheels on other cars!?
I prefer the larger 5008 SUV that has a better boot when the. Seats are folded down 😊
Finally finally someone says something about Peugeots incompetence...how come a car has a steering wheel that blocks the Vue to the instruments...how will the driver know the speed of the vehicle?Maybe that silly AI has a direct line to Darth Vader and uses the force to know how fast the car is travelling...amateurs😮.
Have one nice car love the steering wheel ,drop it slightly no problems, i get in my wifes clio and its like your steering a bus the steering wheel feels too big just my opinion
408 got another 2 more engines come with 1.5...but still struggle a bit for performance.
Its a great looking car but sadly thats all its got going for it
In Msia we get the 1.6 engine with 218 bhp and 300nm
Bring back Tiff
So it isn’t the hybrid then !
I thought this was a review on the car ? Not the steering wheel
where TIFF?
Rory on fifth gear 👏
Only looks good in certain colours classic peugeot
Bring back TIFF!
It looks like a Honda civic ran into the back of a 3008… the steering wheel is inexcusable 🙈
Got the wet belt not good. Car good looking but similar to the Citroen C5X and forthcoming new Insignia.
Voice control, cant turn on the seats but is ready to take steering wheel complaints 😂
Bring back Tiff!
No, thanks.
also, that's not a unique look. It looks like a Hyundai or Kia.
C4 competitor
Peugeot and Citroen have to be really nice looking inside and out because mechanically they are so poor. 🤣🤣
Get rid of the third wheel, keep those two decent drivers and experienced hosts.
Dude's worried about not being able to read instrument cluster while having steering lock on?
You've got two great drivers and you put them both in passenger gear seats?
Wondering why your production isn't getting top gear, um, traction?
They're still using the old fifth gear format for the show. It's nothing to do if he can't read the instrument panel.
They should consider going closer to the top gear format with the show.
Some people moan about everything. It wasn't a race, so you don't need the racing drivers driving.
Mediocre team test. I love you guys and the program, but this was... rubbish.
A peugeot... You re kiding.... No tiff no party
A 1.2 in a car that weighs 1.4 tons? Talk about underpowered
It won't move by its own power. It needs to be push
It's not only underpowered but under displaced, these small overstressed engines are a disaster and they're only economical on paper, in the real world a 2.0 or even 3.0 would get better mileage
@@alexanderstefanov6474 which is why I drive a 1.6 Swift. On paper not much better than this. In the real world? Massively better
What a shame. In my country, this came with 1.6T 218 HP/300Nm. Bought it almost 1 year ago and nothing to complain about.
A bit Harsh Review of a French Car 🚗 literallly all Car manufacturers are down sizing engines ,even Mercedes & BMW , this car competes with the Qashcai and others don't expect to find the 4.0L V8 of that either
very good, made me laugh
Frankly I'm surprised Jason Plato and Vicki are back. I feel the show could of had a new refresh and updated the format to be honest. I was expecting more change
Inframotorizado.
Well... At least its not an `Eee Vee`
True, it'd be far better if it was
Garbage show,once again reviewing cars that only millionaires can afford 😢
subscribed to see the old team, not this pc rubbish
overall a much compromised car and PSA is one manufacturer desperately clinging onto the EU's killer tariffs on Chinese cars. UK and EU consumers being shafted.
Not a great review
Pure tech, pure shite.
I find that review absolutely pathetic. You are grossly biaised against that car, simply because it's a French one. If it had a German badge, you would have given it a solid 8, I'm pretty sure of that. And no, I am not French, I am Austrian.
Totally unprofessional and petty reviewers, British standards of journalism, what could go wrong?
Tiff
Thankfully we don't get these cars here in Canada,🥶.
Fifth Gear need to raise up the level. You guys don't seem to be particularly competent. A completely washed up channel.
Style over substance. Pretentious