Brighton Mainline Review ~ Train Sim World 4

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  • Опубліковано 24 лют 2024
  • Well, this was certainly a long time coming; my two cents on the London to Brighton route in Train Sim World 4.
    This route was released in October 2021 as part of the TSW2 'Rush Hour' series. It's a remake of an old TS classic route, and includes the Southern Class 377/4 and Gatwick Express Class 387/2 Electrostar EMUs. The best feature of this route is easily the insanely busy timetable, with more than 1,000 playable services.
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  • @TB76Returns
    @TB76Returns 4 місяці тому +25

    For me, I actually quite like this route, as the timetable is the best thing about it. I do however have the Class 700 BML mod installed which comes with the 12 car 700, and I installed the scenery pack too, which I would highly recommend for the full Brighton Main Line experience, as full as we can get in TSW4. When I do my upcoming TSW ranking video, I will rate it highly, mainly for the timetable but I will also highly recommend the aforementioned mods.

    • @stevehornsby7727
      @stevehornsby7727 4 місяці тому +5

      It's just a pity that we can't use mods on console

    • @170ScR
      @170ScR 4 місяці тому +1

      ​@@stevehornsby7727 Unfortunately

    • @GreatEasternMainlineSpots
      @GreatEasternMainlineSpots 4 місяці тому +2

      Its a sign to switch to pc mate​@stevehornsby7727

    • @oldtechnobodycaresabout
      @oldtechnobodycaresabout 4 місяці тому +3

      The 700 timetable is amazing and makes it that much more busy south of east Croydon

    • @Maunico0809
      @Maunico0809 3 місяці тому +3

      @@GreatEasternMainlineSpotsyou do realize that a lot of people can’t afford a decent PC?

  • @Frowny13
    @Frowny13 4 місяці тому +3

    I actually really enjoyed this route when it came out, and the busy timetable really makes it come to life. I wish we had more routes with busy timetables and traffic everywhere. Definitely one of Train Sim World’s best IMO. If only this route had a multiplayer feature with dispatcher mode, I don’t think I’d ever get tired of that.

    • @Frowny13
      @Frowny13 4 місяці тому +1

      Oh btw I think it would also be interesting if you did a review on the MKS Class 460 as I also think that’s a high quality unit.

    • @TheTrainspotterFromTauranga
      @TheTrainspotterFromTauranga  4 місяці тому +2

      I might review the Class 460 at some point, but I've already got a long list of add-ons to get through, after I take a break from reviewing.

  • @JoeK25301
    @JoeK25301 Місяць тому +2

    Red -- Signal at danger.
    Single Yellow -- Signal at caution.
    Double Yellow -- Signal at preliminary caution.
    Feathering (flashing) signals is denoting the route is merging on to the main running line; exempting the East Coast Mainline.

  • @terrier_productions
    @terrier_productions 4 місяці тому +2

    16:26 In the UK, old buildings can be grade 1, grade 2 or grade 3 listed which prevents them from being demolished and basically means they are preserved but they have to be of historical significance.

  • @rageplayer20
    @rageplayer20 4 місяці тому +5

    Regarding your video about whether to continue making TSW content. You absolutely should and do it how you like with honest opinions. We have plenty of those who will tell us what DTG want us to know, it's good to hear from people who have genuine and fair criticism.
    Just a tip. Ignore the trolls. They want a rise from you. You'll never please everyone, just keep what you're doing.

  • @Pedro_Dactyl
    @Pedro_Dactyl 4 місяці тому +3

    21:25
    Charing Cross - Hastings does indeed as standard run via Orphington. However, when there is engineering works on the SEML north of Tonbridge, SouthEastern will run Hastings services via Redhill through to the BML as far as East Croydon, and then the ELL before reconnecting with the SEML at Bricklayer's arms Junction outside London Bridge. Diverts are primarily manned by crews at Tonbridge who also operate the SN Tonbridge - Redhill service.

  • @Gideonsmythe
    @Gideonsmythe 4 місяці тому +1

    The trailers cars of the 460s were earmarked to be added to Class 458 units to make them 5 car units. Hence the early retirement. Plus the 442s were very popular with passengers and crews so made more sense for the BML services to Brighton as they were surplus to requirements after the introduction of the 444s on the SWML.
    I can recommend the Mod in TSW that gives you a timetable layer with 700s. It's excellent. Totally agree about about a 2005-2015 version or even a slamdoor one with 4-VEPs 319s and 455s

  • @ajsgaming8003
    @ajsgaming8003 4 місяці тому +4

    the seats are not as bad as ppl say tbh.
    noting will be as good as Blackpool brunches coz Just Trains are the best and actully care.
    Norbury is abysmal (my ex local) and the underpass at Clapham Junction is in the wrong place.
    Great review and good info
    i wish they could just merge London To Brighton and East Coastway togeather.
    i also wish that pc versions of the game not be limited by the consol versions, the consol version should be called train sim world lite and understand they don't get everything the pc version dose.

  • @arsenalfantv1001
    @arsenalfantv1001 4 місяці тому +4

    I can assure you London Victoria is not named after Queen Victoria. It is named after the nearby Victoria Street. P.s. the 395 on The Brighton Main Line isnt unprototypical, there was a series of Railtours where 395s where taken off their usual routes in the name of The Royal British Legion charity. Clayton Tunnel draws its name from the nearby area of Clayton.

    • @oo0Spyder0oo
      @oo0Spyder0oo Місяць тому +1

      That’s silly, it’s named after Victoria st which got its name from queen Victoria in the first place so that made no sense at all.

  • @TheMr.MenShowDillydale
    @TheMr.MenShowDillydale 4 місяці тому +1

    THANK YOU! FOR MY FAVORITE ROUTE!

  • @IDKovers
    @IDKovers 4 місяці тому +2

    You were close on the signalling
    Green: proceed at linespeed
    Double Yellow: Proceed at reduced speed with caution
    Single Yellow: proceed at highly reduces speed with caution, be prepared to stop
    Red: stop

    • @floha978
      @floha978 4 місяці тому

      Are there any particular speed limits for single yellow and double yellow? Like in Austria two green stands for 60 kph and one yellow and one green stand for 40 kph..

    • @arsenalfantv1001
      @arsenalfantv1001 4 місяці тому

      ​@floha978 No. There may, however, be specific instructions in the relevant companies' professional driving policy.

  • @stevehornsby7727
    @stevehornsby7727 4 місяці тому +1

    There is another layer at Clapham Junction. GWR passes north and south around 10 and 15 minutes to and past the hour.

  • @xavieraltimiras7653
    @xavieraltimiras7653 4 місяці тому

    That is a great review. Northern Transpennine was bad because you missed important stuff like there is no light in buildings at night ( in 2024 still playing with a Leeds massive blackout; if you want inmersion here you go…massive blackout in Leeds and Manchester; must be Putin )…but this…hats off…what a great review!👌👌👌

  • @kreekcraft1922
    @kreekcraft1922 9 днів тому +1

    how do i go to the Brighton train station i got the mod but i dont have the train and the map

  • @userSchlonsch
    @userSchlonsch 4 місяці тому +2

    Berlin S-Bahn would be great, especially the „Ringbahn“.
    What I think would also make for a great addon could be the Zurich S-Bahn, although only if they include more than one line as many of them share significant stretches of track.

  • @user-iu8jx2qb7b
    @user-iu8jx2qb7b 4 місяці тому +2

    UK signals are as followed:
    Green-proceed at full line speed
    Double yellow-prepare to slow to 45mph
    Single yellow-sllw down to 45mph
    Red-do not proceed

    • @arsenalfantv1001
      @arsenalfantv1001 4 місяці тому +3

      Incorrect. There are no set instructions for UK signals. Other than
      Green: Proceed at line speed
      Double yellow: preliminary caution.
      Single yellow: The next signal is likely a red.
      Red: Stop. Do not proceed.
      There may, however, be specific instructions in the relevant companies' professional driving policies.

    • @evilnigga68
      @evilnigga68 2 місяці тому +1

      no? simplifying the explanation above even further, double yellow means there's a single yellow next, a single yellow means there's a red next. where exactly did you read about this?

    • @Musta0011
      @Musta0011 2 місяці тому

      Guessing this guy has played a lot of scr

  • @derekwildstar731
    @derekwildstar731 4 місяці тому

    Thank you for this video. Based on your review, I reinstalled all of these DLC.

  • @DKS225
    @DKS225 4 місяці тому

    In recent years they converted Battersea Power Station into a Commercial retail/Residential site while keeping it relatively intact. They had too as being Grade II listed means they can't demolish or extensively alter the structure.

  • @Sebastian69-l4z
    @Sebastian69-l4z 3 місяці тому +1

    bro, where did u get the 5belle Pullman emu? idk where to find it 😢

    • @TheTrainspotterFromTauranga
      @TheTrainspotterFromTauranga  3 місяці тому +2

      That was a freeware download from UKTrainSim. Even though that site is gone, a lot of the old files can still be found on the Internet Archive.
      archive.org/download/ukts-archive-files-29001-30000
      (The 5-BEL's file ID is 29327)

  • @edwardvincentbriones5062
    @edwardvincentbriones5062 4 місяці тому

    Fun fact, I watched a Doctor Who episode (the first episode in a season in fact) for which a preserved set of Class 489 and ex-GX Class 488 (Mark 2F) coaches was used.

  • @AdamLindsayFootMusic
    @AdamLindsayFootMusic 4 місяці тому

    I think Dovetail have announced an update where you can customise your own train configuration, meaning you could create the 377/7, adding another coach? Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think it will be added either in TSW4 or TSW5?

  • @markcovington4761
    @markcovington4761 4 місяці тому +1

    Great review I would really love a New Zealand route or Australian route in the game it would be great to drive different trains in different countries rather than the same old ones

  • @StuK323
    @StuK323 4 місяці тому +1

    Welcome to the machine is such an underrated Song for Pink Floyd…….I mean, yer trains……erm……more variety of traction required. Especially the 377/s as there wouldn’t be too much work (I think) to remodel the 377/4 to be /7 or /6 and as you’ve mentioned /3’s for the coastway

  • @mindthegapplease3840
    @mindthegapplease3840 4 місяці тому +1

    I want to have the Wimbledon to West Croydon route just before it closed in 1997 by Backdated Train Sim.

  • @3rdrailtv
    @3rdrailtv 4 місяці тому +1

    For an American route I would like to see the north jersey coast line with the alp45 and arrowIII and the alp46 would layer in addition if access of a portion of the NEC tsw3 route(if anyone still cares about that train wreck)

  • @CrimsonJay21
    @CrimsonJay21 4 місяці тому +1

    14:30 Yh they're the most uncomfortable chairs in the region, the 466, 465, 376 and 377 are all much nice. It is a shame they're getting rid of the 466 & 465's

  • @louscr8249
    @louscr8249 4 місяці тому

    theres also an annoying glitch on this route where if you spawn in a 12 or 8 car 387 or 377 the door at the rear of the train will stay open and there will be no other way to shut it you cant even manually close it after getting out of the cab etc

  • @ItsDur5n
    @ItsDur5n 18 годин тому

    6:22 can I ask what Enhancement pack/mod you used for those clouds? They look ultra realistic

    • @TheTrainspotterFromTauranga
      @TheTrainspotterFromTauranga  11 годин тому

      It's not AP's cloud enhancement pack, I know that much, but I don't remember installing any cloud mods for the London to Brighton route.

  • @xavieraltimiras7653
    @xavieraltimiras7653 4 місяці тому +1

    Unless you are old gen this route is great

  • @170ScR
    @170ScR 4 місяці тому +1

    I have the Brighton Mainline on my TSW 4 on my PS4, how do you have the Southeastern train Class 377 and the GWR Class 166 train in your BML ????

    • @TheTrainspotterFromTauranga
      @TheTrainspotterFromTauranga  4 місяці тому +1

      You need to have the Southeastern Highspeed and Great Western Express routes installed as well as the BML.

    • @potatoman451
      @potatoman451 4 місяці тому +1

      Ps4 will get zero layers on bml. It lacks the memory

    • @TheTrainspotterFromTauranga
      @TheTrainspotterFromTauranga  4 місяці тому +1

      That's something I forgot about, largely because I've never played TSW on a console.

    • @170ScR
      @170ScR 4 місяці тому +1

      ​@@TheTrainspotterFromTauranga I do have the Southeastern, GWR and BML installed in my TSW 4. But it's not there. Not even the Class 465 appears there as AI services.

    • @170ScR
      @170ScR 4 місяці тому +1

      ​@@TheTrainspotterFromTauranga Unfortunately

  • @terrier_productions
    @terrier_productions 4 місяці тому

    I can’t get the layers for this route even though I have all the necessary routes.. I think’s because I play TSW on an Xbox One which (I think) is a Gen 8 console

    • @declangaming24
      @declangaming24 4 місяці тому

      Yeah if you had a series X/S you get those extra services

  • @raphaelcassiooliveiraperei3852
    @raphaelcassiooliveiraperei3852 4 місяці тому +1

    Tauranga is NZ? You Live in GB?

  • @HamStrains
    @HamStrains 4 місяці тому

    The listed building thing just means network rail has some extra hoops to jump through before they can modify the building and if they don't then they are committing an criminal offence. Can be good, can also be a pain in the bum in terms of bringing infrastructure up to the level it needs to he at for todays needs

  • @170ScR
    @170ScR 4 місяці тому

    At 12:58 timestamp you said if you have the Southeastern High Speed add-on I do and I play on the PS4 and I don't see the Class 455 AI services in and out of London Victoria at all. All I see is the Gatwick Express train and London to Brighton Sotuhern train

    • @EverythingK21
      @EverythingK21 4 місяці тому

      I’m pretty sure it’s only on the ps5 and the newer Xbox’s and pc

    • @fanner-pg3ex
      @fanner-pg3ex 4 місяці тому

      It's only for next Gen consoles

  • @thatlocomotiveguy
    @thatlocomotiveguy 4 місяці тому +2

    Hi. Due to this review, and it not being as shocking and awful as some other add-ons in the game *cough cough, West Cornwall Local, GWE, cough cough* and the incredibly busy route schedule, I am very tempted to buy this route. Also, I believe that you should make a video on how GWE could either be rebuilt or updated, like WSR.

    • @TheTrainspotterFromTauranga
      @TheTrainspotterFromTauranga  4 місяці тому +2

      If what I've heard about DTG losing the GWR license is true, then there wouldn't be much point in suggesting any updates for that route, unless it was to be backdated to the 1980s or something.

    • @samhartnett8700
      @samhartnett8700 4 місяці тому +1

      They sort of did that with that god awful and pointless Diesel Legends pack. It needs a GWR 387 and 802. A 345 wouldn’t be bad either

    • @thatlocomotiveguy
      @thatlocomotiveguy 4 місяці тому +1

      No wonder the route has aged terribly if they have lost the license. Also, you can now make the 12 car 700/1 in the formation designer.@@TheTrainspotterFromTauranga

    • @TheTrainspotterFromTauranga
      @TheTrainspotterFromTauranga  4 місяці тому +1

      I haven't tried that yet, but it's still annoying to not have the 12-car 700 officially added to the game.

    • @thatlocomotiveguy
      @thatlocomotiveguy 4 місяці тому

      @@TheTrainspotterFromTauranga Fair enough

  • @ElmtreeLine
    @ElmtreeLine 4 місяці тому

    This is currently the only UK TSW4 dlc that i dont own.

  • @ChesterJamesNewton
    @ChesterJamesNewton 19 днів тому

    In the add-on. Do you need other dlc to make it full?

    • @megagamer88888
      @megagamer88888 2 години тому

      With the add on you get the GX 387 and Southern 377. Layers are The class 166 from great Western express. The 375 from southeastern high speed And the 313 from the 313 add on this only does ecs services. And another layer is a class 66

    • @megagamer88888
      @megagamer88888 2 години тому

      Undrivable layers include Class 43 visible at 5pm at Clapham Junction. Class 09 at Brighton and 465 at Victoria

  • @tsungiraichiramba
    @tsungiraichiramba 4 місяці тому +2

    You should’ve mentioned the fact that Balcombe, Horley, Salfords and Earlswood don’t have any services

  • @170ScR
    @170ScR 4 місяці тому

    The timetable is missing the SWR and freight trains too

    • @potatoman451
      @potatoman451 4 місяці тому

      Freight trains exist but next Gen and pc only. Also have to own 3 dlc to get all services iirc

  • @170ScR
    @170ScR 4 місяці тому

    You forgot to mention the newest SWR Class 701s and the Class 455

  • @danimonte7088
    @danimonte7088 4 місяці тому +1

    maaan talking about SWR, why dont they add a South west trains route to tsw, would be cool to have some desiros

    • @TheTrainspotterFromTauranga
      @TheTrainspotterFromTauranga  4 місяці тому +1

      Licensing issues with SWR, I suspect. Just look at the 484 in Island Line 2022; Rivet weren't allowed to include the real livery.

    • @danimonte7088
      @danimonte7088 4 місяці тому +1

      @@TheTrainspotterFromTauranga yeah, still would be good tough

    • @louscr8249
      @louscr8249 4 місяці тому +1

      @@danimonte7088 despite the fact dovetail have swr livery on the desiros on tsc?

  • @170ScR
    @170ScR 4 місяці тому

    And for your information The Class 700 ThamesLink don't run in and out from London Victoria during the week. Only on Sundays and only if there's engineering work or if there's a Rail diversion. But no the Class 700 ThamesLink trains don't run in and out of London Victoria

    • @TheTrainspotterFromTauranga
      @TheTrainspotterFromTauranga  4 місяці тому

      I do remember hearing something about the 700s not running into Victoria; that's why I said nothing about it in the video. I know that they come down from London Bridge and meet the BML at East Croydon.

  • @spottymaxy1628
    @spottymaxy1628 3 місяці тому

    I just hope we got a London - Portsmouth

  • @Radiator223
    @Radiator223 Місяць тому

    I want a london-epsom/epsom downs

  • @irvinetam3454
    @irvinetam3454 4 місяці тому +5

    Why do modern British trains have crap seats?
    Why, privatisation of course. That's the tax-haven domiciled shareholders' money old boy.

  • @170ScR
    @170ScR 4 місяці тому

    And I live in London and I'm always in Clapham Junction and Claphan Junction is the busiest station in the world, and the way it's depicted in TSW 4 is not how it looks like in real life because it went a huge overhaul and it's missing the sidings, basically everything

    • @potatoman451
      @potatoman451 4 місяці тому

      Think the route would really struggle if they added all that. No appropriate routes either or not all licenses present

  • @jonhmiller7757
    @jonhmiller7757 Місяць тому

    Hi folks as US train engineer the boston route shouldnt be on rushhour because there not many trains like london commuter

  • @TheOoblick
    @TheOoblick 4 місяці тому

    I've always enjoyed your reviews, but correctly pronouncing "Lewes" in this video takes it to another level.

  • @oo0Spyder0oo
    @oo0Spyder0oo Місяць тому

    I keep checking the progress of Train sim world hoping it will eventually evolve into the sim it needs to be but it never does. I got fed up with the lack of variant trains on their routes, it’s nothing like real life at all. They create a route and base it around 1 or 2 locos and they’re all you see. The world is dead and lacks any ambience it should portray. Good reviews, just a shame the game is still dragging its heels after all the releases.

  • @thomaswatkiss9484
    @thomaswatkiss9484 4 місяці тому +1

    This is one of my favourite routes t use in custom scenarios but the detail in tsw2 is awful

  • @Arsuaho
    @Arsuaho 4 місяці тому

    As PC player you should consider changing the engine.ini (Documents/MyGames/TrainSimWorld4/Saved/Config/WindowsNoEditor), there are a lot of tutorials out there how and what changes can be made there. For instance, you can change the camera borders, so you can use the 8 Cam to fly over the whole map. My changes are:
    [SystemSettings]
    ts2.dbg.Camera.MaxHorizontalDistance=20000
    ts2.dbg.Camera.MaxVerticalHeight=20000

  • @robloxolympics1964
    @robloxolympics1964 4 місяці тому +1

    With GOBLIN coming soon, we might get 710s at Battersea park

    • @TheTrainspotterFromTauranga
      @TheTrainspotterFromTauranga  4 місяці тому +1

      I don't think so, since the 710s don't run the services out of Highbury & Islington and down the East London Line. I just hope that they'll layer on to the Queens Park to Harrow & Wealdstone section of the Bakerloo Line.