Togepi Only - Pokemon Crystal
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- Опубліковано 4 жов 2024
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1. Only my starter in battle
2. No items in battle, except held items
3. No glitches, exploits, save states, or RNG manipulation
4. No evasion moves before level 100*
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-- *In gen1, evasion boosting is allowed if the Pokemon does it through means other than learning the move by level up or TM. For example, using Mimic or Mirror Move to boost evasion is allowed. (This exception is to keep ranking consistent with my legacy videos.)
-- I am allowed to manipulate my starter
-- I play the game at 4x game speed
-- For fair comparisons all my Pokemon have perfect (or near perfect) DVs / IVs
-- I am allowed to catch HM users - I can use all field moves
-- All in-battle glitches are allowed in generation 1
-- In generation 1, I'm allowed to skip Marowak with the Poke Doll
-- Surge's trash-can-puzzle is automatically solved
-- The bike is allowed in gen1, banned in gen2, and allowed for bypassing terrain in gen3
-- Saving between league members is allowed
-- If the solo Pokemon faints and I choose to blackout it counts towards my reset counter
-- I can pause the game and timer to take breaks
-- The footage is sped up / slowed down to match the pace of my narration
-- The ability Pickup can only be used if the starter has it
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THE RATE THAT THIS MAN IS PUSHING OUT CONTENT IS UNREAL. WHAT A LEGEND
He's pushing for that 100k! He will either get it at the end of the year or the work from this push will set next year up for that silver play button😎
YES I AGREE. HE IS DOING VIDEOS ALMOST EVERY DAY. WHY AM I TYPING IN CAPS? OH BECAUSE YOU WERE.
The Fire red/Leaf green videos were member exclusives that realeased about 6 months ago.
He added them to the upload schedule for non members to watch his learning process for those games.
This your first year? Just wait until December...
I think a lot of medium size channels build up content to drop daily during the holiday season.
I thought it was because there were more ads available to medium channels during that time, but he doesn’t do sponsors I think
Fun fact, given perfect IVs/EVs Togepi has about triple the attack stat of Chansey. It would be really unfortunate to be stuck on ONLY physical attacks in a gen 2 playthrough with Chansey... oh wait.
Interestingly enough in HGSS, they fixed the problem by giving the egg Togepi Extrasensory. It would be interesting to see a run of that when we get to it eventually.
Scott I love the extra mile you're going with all the extra data on stats, typing, and graphs. I look forward to all your videos!
I had this Gen 8 competitive doubles team I called Toge. Togepi, Togetic, Togekiss, and Togedemaru. It wasn't very good but it was fun at least. They're some of my favorite mons now
Competitive team is probably a stretch lol, but hey at least you had fun! Togekiss is great, togedemaru is OK but outclassed by other mons like Thundurus or tapu koko in basically every way.
The other 2 though, 🤷♂️
@@levy9595 Good point haha, more like a gimmick team or meme team
Hey Scott i know you've been doing backports for later gen pokemon so i was wondering if you could do Togepi's final form Togekiss in Crystal? I'd love to see how well it performs compared to its pre evolutions!
Togekiss is not in 2nd gen games, that is a 4th gen Pokemon evolution.
@@ange0919and whats wrong with that, literally most of last month he was putting out Gen 4 pokemon in Crystal
If this is done, the real question is, should the Togekiss be the original Normal/Flying type it was in Gen 4 or should it have its new Fairy/Flying type (given that a whole new type would have to be coded in)?
@ange0919 thats why he said "if he's doing more backports" cause obviously to do a gen 2 Kiss run he'd need to backport it
@@stardf29Probably would be Normal/Flying, due to the whole needing to code in the fairy type thing.
Scott teaching us that gambling ia bad is a great example to follow.
As much as I want gen 1 to be done I respect the amount of content without burn out. Thank you and go team baby
“What niche is this supposed to fill?” Well, both its stat spread and level-up movelist are defensive. So my guess is that it’s supposed to ruin the opponent’s ability to deal damage and inflict status conditions, so that you can then swap in a setup sweeper. Later gens mostly give it more support moves: Yawn, Wish, Follow Me, Baton Pass, Life Dew.
Gen4 lets it start with Extrasensory, allowing use of its Special which is useful.
@@HighPriestFuneralWith Serene Grace, it has an absurd chance to flinch as well. Too bad it's slow as molasses.
Togepi gets mountains better once it evolves into Togetic as well, it just takes a while.
I love that your videos never get old . You keep it interesting, and approach it from diff angles .
Scott, I predict that smoochum will kill the tierliest and beat togepi by a long shot. Really. I picked it up once in a crystal playthrough and it outshined everything except my typhlosion. Ice/psychic is an awesome typing for johto! And since it gets 2 stab moves right away together with ice punch in goldenrod, you will just sweep through! 😂
Have fun, scott! After all those struggle playthroughs, smoochum will be a cakewalk!
My money is on Magby, Fire is just a better type than Ice Psychic (way more resistances / way less weaknesses)
Oh geez, haven't watched this one yet, but I already KNOW this will be painful... You're a more patient Scott than I am, my friend 😅
This reminds me of when I would play Silver on my little green Game Boy Color back in the day. I would always save Togepi for Chuck's gym, I'd have her literally not levelled up at all. Then, I'd send her out against the Hitmonlee trainer. For some reason, 9 year old me was convinced that Hi Jump Kick would never land on Togepi, and so it would die, and Togepi would level up like crazy! And, as it turns out, 9 year old me was exceedingly lucky, because no matter how many times I'd reset and do the fight, that always happened! I guess I was just better at Pokemon back then...
EDIT: OH JEEZ. Just watched to the end of the video. Scott, you're a masochist! Tyrogue is going to be AWFUL! You only have Thief and Mud Slap for dealing with the Gastly line, that's going to be sheer pain... All I can say is best of luck man, I'll watch tomorrow for your 3 hour plus run!
I think you should have kept Metronome. Yes, it's random, but Vanman had a Ponyta redo that showed that sometimes moves that seem more random are actually more consistent. In his case, getting knock-outs with Horn Drill was actually more consistent than hoping for good luck with ponyta's other moves. I wouldn't be surprised if there was a similar situation this run.
In that situation, Vanman was effectively comparing Fire Spin to Horn Drill. The amount of times he needed Fire Spin to hit, meant that hitting 1 Horn Drill was more likely.
With Metronome, it's not so straight forward. There's only about 10 moves in Gen 2 that it can't pick so having Metronome be a more likely/reliable option would only really work if he to rely on a low accuracy move like Zap Cannon for most of the playthrough, or if most hits in the playthrough needed to be criticals.
With regards to Sandstorm being at its best in Gen 2, I would say that is true in a vacuum.
However, in competitive Gen 2, Sandstorm is mainly relegated to stall teams dedicated to abusing its passive damage, while in Gens 3, 4, and 5 it's a metagame-defining force.
That is because in Gen 2, Sandstorm can only be summoned by its namesake move and only lasts for 5 turns at a time before needing to be reestablished.
But in the next 3 gens, the Ability Sand Stream exists, which not only eliminates the need to spend a turn setting up Sandstorm, but also makes the weather condition last _forever_, unless it is removed by another weather condition. The fact that the mons that have Sand Stream, Tyranitar and later Hippowdon, have many excellent traits besides setting a game-warping field condition. Gen 5 was especially good for Sandstorm because of the introduction of Sand Rush and Sand Force.
And even from Gen 6 on, when Sand Stream and similar abilities were nerfed to no longer have the weather they summon last indefinitely, the ability to briefly chip down many opposing mons and empower your own just by switching is still quite powerful. Back when I played Gen 8 OU, I loved running Sand Rush Dracozolt alongside Smooth Rock Hippowdon as a powerful win condition.
Maybe someday you should do a TAS Togepi speed run where Metronome sticks around and you get all the perfect moves, like AncientPower for Scyther 😂seriously though, this was a fun watch. I was surprised by Togepi getting Swift and being able to abandon Metronome early. One thing I wonder is if using Charm against Miltank is remotely viable or if Rollout praying is all Togepi can do to win.
Oof i bet this wasn’t fun.
Glad the baby series is finally here (gg for the double upload)
Togepi; the Pokémon it felt like you were obligated to have join you as a kid because it seemed like the story would revolve around it... and then you got into hilarious Metronome shenanigans as a result. Interesting you had an opposite reaction of boxing it almost immediately.
1:29 - The term "Baby Pokémon" was confusing from the get-go with the likes of Magby being basically a standard pre-evolution given it's stats and level up method. I had thought the original intent was for them to be friendship evolution Pokémon with lower stats but access to moves the evolved stages could never get but nope.
4:06 - Yeah, you would think it would have gotten Defence Curl in the place of Growl. Given it is an egg at this point, Softboiled or Egg Bomb would have made sense as well.
7:40 - Getting Thrash here, and 3 hit variant, was certainly fortunate.
10:34 - The poisoning Sludge Bomb and Charm combo was terrific to see. It may be frustrating but a reliance of Metronome does lead to some wonderfully entertaining results for us viewers.
14:24 - I thought you had a good combination going there with Mud Slap-Sweet Kiss-Charm. I suppose it's a slow combo and you are timing yourself in these solo challenges.
16:19 - Togepi doesn't come across as a particularly masculine Pokémon, though not specifically feminine either, so it's odd how much it's gender ratio is skewed towards male.
21:32 - A Johto Pokémon whom it doesn't feel like they thought out it's stats/type/movepool/placement? What a shock... or rather not.
22:34 - Two NPC trainers with back-to-back art in a row? Cool. An nice that you mention the Nob trivia.
26:06 - What a good message; working on you and your Pokémon instead of falling into the trap of gambling. Morals aside, having a Vs Seeker and being able to rematch trainers to earn coins as you grind would be so useful here. I assume you weren't lucky enough to get some phone calls for trainer fights here.
28:01 - Icy Wind feels like the sort of move that Togepi shouldn't be able to learn but Togetic should... turns out neither of them do. I honestly Togetic had more Special move options as a perk to evolving but nope; pretty much only gains access to the physical Flying move pool (and Steel Wing).
30:00 - All that earlier training did pay off. An true to your expectation, you're still at a point where you are using a physical focused Togepi (I also had just realised that you didn't nickname the little guy).
34:00 - Just rolling through all of Lance's Pokémon here. I was expecting you would need to Rest at some point or use some delaying tactic but nope, first go, first win.
35:50 - Those decent defences Togepi sure came in handy in the end.
41:54 - At long last, Togepi is finally able to put it's mystical prowess to use.
48:43 - Given it is a baby Pokémon, with no attacking moves from the get-go and a reliance on luck for the first gym, it's tier placement is actually far better than expected. Good going Togepi!
Herracross had the perfect face for that insert gag 🤣🤣🤣
Also I love when Metronome has to make an appearance.
Heracross glad Scott forgot his secondary typing.
"Yep! Definitely just Bug type like Pinsir - nothing to see here, especially not any weaknesses to Psychic or double weaknesses to Flying."
Togepi holds a rather special place in my heart. Shortly after Togepi was featured in the show, I requested anything Togepi for the next Christmas. Next tattoo I get will probably something Togepi related as well… thanks for showing the adorable might of Togepi!
Been here since the first few bug runs in johto and just saying that your content has improved so much since you started (not that it was bad before). It's been fun to see you grow with your content and I look forward to seeing everyone video!
Honestly this didn't look TOO bad, you made the babies' playthroughs sound like absolute first route bug-tier hell. (I'm probably gonna eat my words tomorrow or when it's Pichu's turn)
Comparatively to other gen2 results Togepi wasn’t very good, but it wasn’t like Magikarp painful.
To talk about the Togepi line a bit, I used Togekiss in Gen 8, and it was an underrated powerhouse. Here's a deadly combo there: King's Rock(held item), Air Slash(STAB move), and Serene Grace(ability). Pokemon would flinch left and right, and it was a ton of fun to use.
You have to paralyze the rival for an effective paraflinch strat, especially considering the low speed of togepi
@@abeldeincognito Yes, but it's for Togekiss, which has pretty decent speed. But that could still work since Togekiss can learn Thunder Wave.
You have so fully supplanted all other poketubers because of your attention to detail and just awesome content overall! Keep up the great work!
Scott you really were brave doing this run! But I 'm really curious how the baby Pokemon race results are gonna be. I this actually tyrogue is the worst one, yeah, even worse than Togepi. Despites Togepi's awful move pool and stats I can say I like at least its move coverage, although the moves it can learn are not easily accessible, what a pity! But I guess without over leveling impossible would have been this run! Well, you tried your best, I'm proud of Togepi, I'm proud of you, Scott! Thank you once again for all these fun contents you create! It really entertains me and everyone else, I'm sure! See you next time, comrade!
I love your videos and all the Informations you share. The overall Quality is just great. But I have to admit that the yellow playthroughs are my absolute favorites. Keep it up!
I'm already calling Elekid will be the best as it gets all the punches, and I also did a playthrough with it and was shocked at the time it did it in.
I appreciate they gave Togepi Dream Eater with no way to cause sleep aside from Metronome luck. Very cool.
26:40 You read my mind! I was just looking up where the Amulet Coin was a minute or so before you brought it up.
On your comment on Sandstorm: Sandstorm ingame might be its best at Gen 2, but in compotitive it was it most centralizing it was in Gen 3. Tyranitar was the most dominant Pokémon almost only because of the impact its omnipesent Sandstorm has. Everything in battle is affected by Sandstorm, and damage calculations always factor in Sandstorm
I see that bruno is probably going to have a full team by the time this current series of babies is completed. Finallly!
Love your videos Scott! Don’t burn yourself out by producing so many back to back constantly! Even though we do appreciate your hard work.
Never thought I'd be this invested in the outcome of a baby pokemon. Great video as always
the togepi art for the thumbnail is so cute
This suffering is what I started to watch challenge videos for.
I actually gasped and clapped when he said he was doing all baby Pokémon this month
Amazing that on the first run, Togepi swept through the league and most of the gym leaders, with as less resets and possible.
I don't necessarily WANT to see you suffer, but I will point and laugh whilst you do.
Togepi's decent defences really helped here! It's weird as he'll that it doesn't have wish, a move i think of as like, togepi's main point
The best pokèmon of all time with best evolutions
Would love to get Scott's thoughts on Crystal Legacy, I love it
This is what we've been waiting for!
You had such an easier time than I did in my crystal babies playthrough. I ended up having to use Magby with Thunder punch to get past Chuck.
idk if mentioned yet but an interesting "what if" video in the vein of surfing pikachu/that magikarp with dragon rage would be a "Togepi but it's the HG/SS gift egg version that starts with Extrasensory." Granted Extrasensory doesn't exist until Gen 3 (80 Power psychic move, 20pp) but you could get similar results replacing that with Psybeam instead.
Would be fun to see how much faster it would be.
When Scott did the Gardevoir (waifu=marriage) video I jokingly commented asking when a Togepi or Pichu (baby) video was coming
I DID NOT EXPECT IT TO BE THAT FAST
Not gonna lie, I love these struggle bus videos, but man do I feel bad for your sanity dealing with the babies. 😂
I think I mentioned this before, but comments, youtube algorithm, etc... Fun fact about Nob, he also translated several Dragon Warrior (Now known in the west as Dragon Quest) games back then! Mainly the gameboy color remakes or monster games, but also the infamous PlayStation game that had closets of binders filled with text to be translated.
As for Togepi, the role it is supposed to take is tank... when it evolves anyway. Baby pokemon rarely excel in whatever niche they are in considering they are babies. I loved playing with Togepi. It essentially is a more functional magikarp, but gets tank on evolution instead of being a powerhouse.
Hey Scott, wouldn't it be more consistant against Red to only set up 1/2 curses vs pikachu (just enough to one hit it and the espeon) and then set up the rest vs snorlax? Only using one would mean you'd still outspeed the snorlax, but i'm not sure if you'd one hit the espeon with that.
I wasn't eggsactly eggspecting this video on my list today, but I'm sure this is going to be an eggcellent playthrough. I hope you didn't yolk around and hatched a plan! Many eggnore this bundle of joy in playthroughs the originals nowadays, but I can't help but find my mind scrambled at the thought of how cute Togepi is! Are you enjoying these egg related puns yet Scott, because writing them is getting eggxhausting! What can I say though, this topic got me out of my shell and gave me a good mental eggercise ^_^ but I don't blame anyone for eggnoring my puns; they're a bit too eggs-tra for some :D
I hope you had fun doing this my man as much as I will enjoy watching it!
i almost hope scott is a masochist at this point so he at least has some form of fun
I look forward to the eventual Crystal playthrough with backported baby pokemon... (Wynaut and Munchlax, but especially Mantyke, the cutest lil sea pancake)
I love your content. Thank you for constant uploads
Fighting is way better in gen 2 than gen 1. Just the addition of a few new moves and a few more types that it's strong against really help.
I went through last time with a Machop and traded it to a Machamp and it did pretty great.
I love using the traded machop from goldenrod in gen 2 with that exp boost. Certified Whitney destroyer
Oh, my God, you give me the gift of pokemon for Christmas. Thank you, my good sir!
Oh boy, good luck with the baby gauntlet.
6:35 You can farm berries using a clock reset built into the game, which lets you farm berries if you ever get into a situation of not having enough potions to struggle. Sure it takes time, but it'll probably be faster than alternatives.
Agreed on the Rollout critique. I see other Poketubers downplaying how bad the 90% accuracy is, but the accuracy of a chain of Rollouts is more comparable to Hypnosis, which is widely criticized.
Poor Scott he will be overworked!
39:30 is probably the first use of Razor Wind on the channel.
Now I want to see a full metronome playtrough.
I think Togepi is gonna kick some major ass actually c;
also: bug love! c:
31:50 Fool! Not even Karen can beat the 69 😂😂😂
Gotta say, I find very amusing how this thing can beat the game. Awesome video and take it easy aye ^^
Yes... fun... that is the right word to describe that diverse move set. XD
“You may ask why I would do this.”
The real answer is for science.
0:13 kid Scott was apparently playing the whole game going: why is everyone judging Silver, he's right
I will never forget the time I was 9 and only had a Feraligatr and a super underleveled Togepi going into Jasmine and her Magnemite crippled Feraligatr, allowing Steelix to finish it off, and somehow between spamming Swift, getting lucky accuracy drops off Metronome pulling Octazooka and Sand-Attack, I think I may have also used some confusion hax too, Steelix never landed a Rock Throw or Iron Tail and somehow Togepi, 20 levels below Steelix, defeated it. It evolved into Togetic after a single additional level and I took it to a Bug Catching Contest to celebrate
Togekiss is my most favourite pokemon
Now I will watch this entire video
You are playing with all the babies!? Looking forward to Cleffa, as that line is my favorite in the game :D
That egg sure can roll.
Scott I have to admit I love some good suffering. Thanks for all you do
Sorry to intrude but is this baby series a personal life announcement? Caaaause that'd be adorable
I just love the Metronome lottery. Maybe its just the dopamine rush from "gambling" as you are essentially just pulling the level and seeing if you "win" or "lose" each time.
Good video. I always loved the move metronome - would keep it on all pokemon who can learn. Spin that roulette wheel baby!
I'm sure it never really was worth it, but i only have find memories.
Metronome only run when?
Togapi is definitely the slow defensive pokemon,that can't benefit from it's stab for this gen. Togapi is great stall pokemon but not the best in trems of solo runs. 😊
I remember hating to grind that pokemon as a kid ,and wanting to evolve fast,so I could use it. But in a gen 4 nuzlocke I did a while ago ,it was a great team player,due to encore. I'm not sure how encore could help in solo run ,but it can sure make some battles trivial,like Whitney,Chuck, and even Lance by locking them to use useless moves or moves that are less damaging to you. And if you'll combine it with charm the early game should be smooth,for the most part.😊 By the way if I recall correctly there is a defense curl tm in Mount Mortar. So maybe that could help the rollout strategy by a little bit.
I'm excited what road Tyrogue will take. One thing is for sure , it's going to rely on tms a lot.😊 Thanks for uploading more frequently, you're the best!
This thing gets Return at lvl 11 in Crystal Legacy (and friendship increases much faster than in base Crystal) and it made it legitimately useful in the early game. It was actually one-shotting things
The babies are going to be so painful. * big hug * to Scott
Imagine NOT recording these runs to the millisecond. Unthinkable.
Woah, unlearning Metronome this early? I think that's a mistake. Metronome is very inconsistent, but also Togepi's greatest strength.
Sometimes, rolling the dice will help ypu get past otherwise near impossible fights much faster.
I know you love consistency, but Metronome is just good as a backup strat.
Regardless, bug love! c:
I think if Scott was lucky instead of unlucky he'd have kept it
"EIN BELEGTES BROT MIT SCHINKEN. SCHINKEN!!!! EIN BELEGTES BROT MIT EI. EI!!!! DAS SIND ZWEI BELEGTE BROTE, EINS MIT SCHINKEN, EINS MIT EI!" ("One Sandwich with ham. Ham!!! One Sandwichwith egg. Egg!!!!! These are to Sandwiches, one with ham, one with egg") -german Song
Whenever gambling comes up in G1 or G2, you really should consider allowing an uncapped speed boost with a turbo-controller/auto-clicker.
Forcing the correct time of day on entering the game corner could also give you access to a machine with improved odds.
Can’t wait for magby. He’s gonna do great!
Honestly thought this would be closer to 2:30 given the weak movepool, but optimizations helped this one shine!
Togepi did... actually very good. It's not as disadvantaged as you'd expect. Good movepool, decent bulky stats, and the Normal typing really help in Gen 2. I hate to ask you to do another playthrough, but have you considered doing one with your new knowledge for routing to get Fire Blast to deal with Jasmine, Will's Exeggutor, and some other Fire-weak threats? Would that help Togepi get under 2 hours?
Geeez Scott no way youre putting out 8 baby videos in a month hahaha youre a legend 😂.
Sadly i know its all gonna come down to Return, Rest, Curse, and some 4th move...but itll be interesting to see how they all do prior to Red.
You might be surprised.
@@ScottsThoughtsPokemon Ooooo okay now im even more excited!
I wonder how Togepi would do if it got something else at level 1. Like, even if it was Tackle or Pound, it's gotta be better than having both Growl and Charm.
The only 2 baby pokémon missing this month are Riolu and Munchlax, these are the top 2 of the animation youtube movie: Baby Pokémon Battle Royale by Terminal Montage.
Hopefully someday these can be included to compare Scott's rankings with TerminalMontage's rankings.
Don't forget Azurill and Wynaut
Bonsly!
Mantyke
Mime Jr., Budew
I would have thought flamethrower would have fried that egg
Fast level up rate in Gen 2 honestly seems really powerful, your level just sky rockets.
One thing to remember is that Nintendo and Gamefreak have never really catered to the competitive scene, the Pokémon games have always been marketed more towards choosing your favorites than choosing the best.
I made a joke on the gardevoir video that now that he's married, that when the baby pokemon video came out he was gunna have a kid!
Gratz. Lol
The mad man actually did it
I just re-watched Jrose11's Togepi playthrough last night! He was a lot more positive about it. Also, I think the RNG might have been nicer to him.
He also used rollout. Which Scott forgot about. Available before Whitney
@@brendanbrading3799 ? Scott used rollout to beat whitney on his second playthrough what do you mean he forgot about it?
It's worth nothing that Jrose, at the moment, is not trying to do a run with every Pokemon in Crystal, and thus isn't trying to tier them against each other, nor is he trying to beat the game as fast as possible. His Crystal runs so far are more about just trying to see if seemingly "weak" Pokemon can even beat the game in the first place, and was likely surprised at how much easier it was than he expected it to be overall.
I can read between the lines with this baby Pokémon month, I'm callin that they're gonna announce a baby on the way
My predictions for this mini series, Tyrouge will probably be the worst while I'm guessing Smoochum or Magby will be the best.
i am so hyped for this baby series, they are so terrible XD looks awlful to play with them
I'm one of those who likes to see you suffer. Those are my favorite videos
I played Gold a lot growing up, and could never figure out what I was supposed to do to get mine to evolve. I kept it on the team for ages, spamming metronome all over the place and laughing at the animations until I got bored of it dying. Wait, maybe that's why it never evolved...
Haha, indeed. I thinkall babies started out with the same evolutionary requirement, high affection.
Can't wait for a suicune Entei Raikou run
I don't see this happen too often so I thought I'd mention it, but you can walk through Mt Mortar to reach mahogany town before fighting Morty if that should ever need to be an option. You could in theory battle Pryce before taking on Morty. I've done this to get a poliwrath before Morty in PKMN crystal
Have you ever heard of the *Old Man trick" in the game corners? It can take a while longer than just grinding up the money, but it's way more consistent than gambling your way if you need to resort to it.
For some reason, 10 year old me thought this pokemon was the bees' knees. I would keep it on every playthrough and just roll for good metronome luck all game long. 😅