Magby Only - Pokemon Crystal
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- Опубліковано 4 жов 2024
- Rules:
1. Only my starter in battle
2. No items in battle, except held items
3. No glitches, exploits, save states, or RNG manipulation
4. No evasion moves before level 100*
Rule details:
-- *In gen1, evasion boosting is allowed if the Pokemon does it through means other than learning the move by level up or TM. For example, using Mimic or Mirror Move to boost evasion is allowed. (This exception is to keep ranking consistent with my legacy videos.)
-- I am allowed to manipulate my starter
-- I play the game at 4x game speed
-- For fair comparisons all my Pokemon have perfect (or near perfect) DVs / IVs
-- I am allowed to catch HM users - I can use all field moves
-- All in-battle glitches are allowed in generation 1
-- In generation 1, I'm allowed to skip Marowak with the Poke Doll
-- Surge's trash-can-puzzle is automatically solved
-- The bike is allowed in gen1, banned in gen2, and allowed for bypassing terrain in gen3
-- Saving between league members is allowed
-- If the solo Pokemon faints and I choose to blackout it counts towards my reset counter
-- I can pause the game and timer to take breaks
-- The footage is sped up / slowed down to match the pace of my narration
-- The ability Pickup can only be used if the starter has it
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Any pokemon in gen 2 with the elemental punches has a good chance - being able to buy them as TM's in Goldenrod always feels so strong
Currently playing a crystal nuzlocke and my only answer to grass type is... Geodude with Fire Punch lol
That's a good reason why furret is pretty decent, cause it gets all 3 punches
Yup with Elikid/Electabuzz with all three elemental punches it's a huge get in Crystal
Ice punch just destroys the entire elite 5
"Gloats in Abra"
Can we take a moment to just appreciate the phenomenal production quality 👏 of these videos.. i remember when Scott was just starting out. The growth and passion seem to positively correlate...and i don't believe any other poketuber puts as much charisma into the overlays and editing. Well maybe Chuggaconroy when he is doing pokevids.. either way scott definitely deserves a spot in the poketuber hall of fame
Mah-dry-bread is solid on those levels but Scott is DEFINITELY top 10 all time 😂💯
The data presentation recently has been superb. The bar graph is amazingly good
Oh god, this is so exciting!!! This is my favorite baby by a mile! I remember magmar being one of my favorite pokemon ever as a kid (still is) and when I got my hands on the gen 2 games and cards and saw it had a baby pokemon I freaked out. This is always the one I shiny hunt when I play crystal as well. Man! I'm so excited for this playthrough! I hope it does the best of the babies!
me too, Magby is the best design out of that whole line and I adore him 😅
OK, so this isn't really a run-specific comment, but I'd just like to appreciate the little details Scott puts into these videos. In this case, I specifically appreciate the little cursor arrow blinking in the rhythm of the champion's theme at the 25:29 mark. He's added this same detail in so many previous videos, too! Keep the amazing content coming!!
Scott downgrading poor old chuck with those cutting remarks. 2:37 He doesn't even get an actual Poliwrath anymore!
I would like to see a test run of poor DVs vs perfect DVs just because you also mentioned that some strong Pokémon overkill greatly they might not need those DVs so it'd be interesting too see if you scaled the DVs back for better coverage with hidden power if it would make a difference.
Mag y always makes me think of that one episode of Pokémon when Max is at a Pokémon school and uses a Poliwag against Magby and all he does is inexplicably spam Defense Curl until Magby roasts it alive lol
Another episode in the Scott’s Tots Series. I’m here for it.
This will be the one of the top finishers for sure, I think. The typing, the moveset (fire, electric, psychic... tons of coverage), everything is just amazing when compared to the other babies (I expect it to only lose to Smoochum). Having STAB to start out with is great.
I've really enjoyed the addition of charts in your recent videos. Data nerd content layered on top pokemon nerd content is the hero we needed AND the hero we wanted.
When I was first playing Gold, I just bred every mon I could to try and discover new babies. Unfortunately the first one I tried was Magmar, so when I realized the method "worked" I wasted so much time replicating the experiment to no results.
Loving this Gen 2 babies series Scott, giving me massive nostalgia
I am so happy Magby did so well. As someone who started their Pokémon journey in Johto with Pokémon Gold, this series has really helped me understand why I love the fire type so much. It just blazes through these games (pun intended 🔥)
How do you not love listening to Scotts thoughts. They're so insightful.
Actually, Venomoth is Poison/Bug, I can’t believe anyone could make such a mis- KIDDING!
Also, Denis!
Seriously though, Scott, keep up the amazing work. I’ve been following you since way back when you “weren’t really a math guy.” Seeing you go from a casual runner to possibly the most analytical has been super cool, and it’s also been neat to hear about the developments in your life and relationship. Proud of you!
What this tells me more than anything in Gen 2 is movepool is the most important factor in deciding a time. Stats and growth rate matter, but not in the way a good move pool does. Magby has the ability to solve all challenges presented to it easily. We saw the same with Arbok in Yellow.
The artist has been killing it!
Elekid ane Magby are pretty similar when evolved, and Elekid's my fave.
RIP Scott's childhood Magby
I love your content, it's so well done! Thanks for blessing us, Scott 😊
RIP Magby you had to move on with a new save but it lived on forever he was 6 but you got it to 100. You're story gives it life that it wouldn't have without this video. 😍
Just wanted to say thx to Denis. I really love Scott's thoughts, sharing the ADHD and taking a shitload of inspiration. The amount of work, structure, continuity, creativity and teamwork impresses me and motivates me to try my best as well. Atm scott's content is easily my favourite entertainment❤
Magby is my favorite baby Pokémon!
Great video as always.
Magby looks really cool in the thumbnail,it looks like it's focused on smashing the game.😊
Magby and Elekid are my favourite baby Pokémon. In my crystal playthroughs I was so excited to get a one of the two, as my odd egg encounters , because they are really easy to level up and they help out a lot with major battles.
The twist of using mud slap for Red was fun to watch ,even though I would have went with sunny day and raw power , because magby can do it for sure.😊
Wow! That Morty strategy was really great! Clean and simple.
The magby drinking game:
Everytime magby gets a critical hit, take a shot!
"Up first is Metapod."
I didn't hear the "Um," so I thought there was just a comedic pregnant pause which really worked.
given that Elekid is another of the "better baby pokemon", the results line up curiously for an Electabuzz vs Magmar race
also VERY interested to see how it's evolution actually does (does the ability to evolve move it up a tier?)
Electabuzz and magmar are two of the greatest pokemon ever designed and some of my personal favorites but admittedly magmar is a different kind of beast and will win every time there…upsettingly lol i mean even the evolutions show how unbalanced the two are, easily my favorite trade evolutions but the magmar line always has a big advantage in typing movepool and stats
Really good movepool combined with decent stats made this one surprisingly quick. Really looking forward to how Elekid and Smoochum compare!
Glad to see Magby rocked out a really solid showing!
I am SO Looking forward to the Smoochum Vid tomorrow!
Go smoochum! You can dethrone magby with your coverage!
The absolute Magby Bro sweep. Magby Bro 4 life 👌
Magby rocks and I know Elekid would do a good time too ❤ I love your videos Scott keep up the good work ❤
Magby learning psychic is wild
Stats and a good move pool are what determines whether or not a Pokémon will truly hit its strive. Stats are what will hold it back and exp growth is what will tell you how long it will take. However there is one thing that breaks the game. Access to the move Return. Every Pokémon, excluding those that are restricted to a set of moves, can access this move. It is basically the power of Double Edge minus the recoil. It is learned at a point in time in which the player gains more move options from the department store. If it can't learn the punches, it can get a return. Almost every run relies on this and Curse to some extent. While Hidden Power may be a determining factor in the second playthrough exclusively for Rock, Ground, or Ice moves and not much else. However, what keeps runs interesting is to witness interactions you wouldn't see otherwise since gen 2 has a fascinating AI built for the trainers that can predict what moves will hit, miss, or deal too little damage at the point in time which you choose your move. The only drawback gen 2 has is its level curve and the fact Kanto's gym leaders do not pose much of a threat due to being under-leveled. As long as the Pokémon has access to: fire, ice, electric or a combination of any two, it should perform decently in most sections. So that will make looking at Cleffa vs Igglybuff interesting since they can't access any of the punches. They can for some reason learn Zap Cannon and Fire Blast, with Cleffa even being capable of using Iron Tail which is a funny mental image.
Magby is my favorite of the baby Pokémon. I love the Magmar evolutionary line, it's one of my favorites
I did the same thing! I got a magby really early playing gen 2 as a kid. It was the second pokemon I got to 100.
Awesome video Scott. Magby did predictably well. All is right with the world.
I still remember how it was a custom of mine to reset for magby 😂 Magmar is so cool and powerful in this game, I always had to find reasons not to use him so the rest of my team could level up 😂😂😂😂
I wonder is elekid, who I also loved, can compete with Magby. I'd say, it will do either a bit better or like 15 minutes slower, that's my bet!
I definitely love both elekid and magby but let’s both be honest lol magby is by FAR the better pokemon . Generally fire type is probably the strongest typing for a solo run in generation 2 since there is versatility and raw power, but the issue with elekid is it’s just not got as good a type since half of gen 2 is weak to fire whereas a good porion is strong to electric, it’s stats are even less powerful than magby and it’s definitely gonna be slower. I mean it’s electric type though and can use thunderbolt, all the punches and it’s not much weaker, i say though it’s likely 30 minutes minimum since red will stomp elekid
@@nekogaming5300 we'll see! I really hope Elekid does similarly good ^^
@@altheapolyam it definitely won’t be close and im expecting at minimum a 30 to 40 minute difference simply because magby is ridiculously better
@@nekogaming5300 not to put salt in the wound, but it seems you were wrong by a mile friend 👩🏽🚀 I still think both of them are pretty much similarly strong, but yeah, Elekid gets this one this time
@@altheapolyam i mean magby is still the better pokemon because electabuzz and electivire both suck whereas magmar and magmortar both are competitive so i wasn’t wrong
Havent commented in a while, but still watching. Cheers!
I agree the punch TMs are far too cheap. Great run, Scott!
Now i am really curious about magmar. Also makes me wonder if magmortar would be even better.
Magby kind of dominated. In the replay, only Red was particularly troublesome? Nothing to really make that any better. Mud Slap coming into play so late in the game was... surprising. Awesome, but very surprising! Love the Magby line, great runs.
Can’t wait for the back port of Azurill to complete the set!
Wtf didnt saw you have 'only' 60k subs. I really thought you where a half Million tuber lol. Great Content
This playtrough is fire 🔥
At this rate we need art of a Gligar sitting down looking sadly at a puddle of mud (or trying to make a sandcastle...made of mud). Or even just looking at a framed picture of TM31 longingly like that old Wolverine meme
Magby destroyed the game, holy! Looking forward to the other two elemental babies. I did a Smoochum run once but I let it evolve so I'm sure it'll be much worse when it stays a baby forever. Elekid though I imagine will be free with all three punches and resisting Pikachu for an easier setup on Red.
This was a really good video honestly. Magby is a lot less bad than one would otherwise think, for whatever reason it's a lot closer statistically to a middle-stage evolution like Charmeleon or Quilava than it is to a lot of the first-stage Fire types, which is weird because Magmar is typically pretty middling in comparison to other Fire-types.
The only thing I can say going through the run is that I'm not really convinced on Curse + Mud-Slap for Red. I'm not a very big fan of the Quick Claw in all honesty and I wonder if Sunny Day and Flamethrower would have just been enough to get through Red. Sunny Day even has the benefit of cutting Thunder's accuracy for the Pikachu. Maybe Sunny Day + Fire Blast for the extra punching power for the Snorlax? There feels like a lot of risk being taken with the Curse strategy that maybe could be avoided by playing towards the strengths of the Fire-typing. But obviously I don't have the numbers in front of me so it's possible that strategy just simply wouldn't work or that it would have other issues.
good luck, strongest of the babies!
This series reminds me of the tournaments that my college friends had . We did a baby Pokémon tournament
Rather than making the elemental punches harder to obtain like walling them off beyond he game corner they should've just made the difficulty of the region itself less of a cakewalk. It's not good design to frustrate your players by making things meant to help them hard to obtain.
The items are in the right places, but the region doesn't offer a good enough level of difficulty to compliment the placement of said items.
It's the same with changing how you obtain such a useful TM as Ice Beam in gen 1 for the remakes. They basically took away you interacting with an NPC in the world to make you play around with the game corner. Artificial difficulty isn't actually difficulty it's tedium. It's a way to pad out an experience that needn't be so long.
Magby the B-Tier baby ^^
Finally we get to a good baby mon. This should be interesting.
My first gen 2 game was also Silver, and i also ran through the whole game with feraligatr. I vividly remember the heart pounding battle of my level 81 gatr vs Red 🤣
This is my favorite series, I always love the runs with more problems to solve, so the baby Pokémon were made for le
I knew Magby would be one of the better, if not the best of the baby Pokemon in this series. Used him in Black 2 and he's surprisingly strong.
I can’t wait to see the Smoochum run! I always reset the Odd Egg in my crystal playthroughs to get me a baby Jynx!
whats kinda funny is that if falkners pidgeotto doesnt use mud slap against fire types like magby, then the only reason he even has it in the first place is to make absolutely sure that the player doesnt use rocky, because thats literally the only pokemon the player can use where it will even use that move. he will also use it against geodude, but geodude can take it out in a single rock throw, so it doesnt matter. they literally gave a gym leader a signature move just to make rocky as awful as possible.
Pokemon Silver for me was the Typhlosion show. First Mon ever to hit lv 100 and I'll always remember that I had caught a Jynx in Ice Path and lances last Dragonite killed Typhlosion, then that Jynx finished off the battle with Ice Punch. My 8 year old brain was so excited lol
Love your content! Would be fun to see the rival in Mt. Moon defeated.
Just at the perfect time! Roll the playthrough!!
I had no idea Red had an AI modofier for his healing items! No wonder he never bothers hesling the heavy hitters in the back
I was going to joke about it coming in befor weepingbell. But thats actualy an incredabke time for a baby pokemon wow.
I was expecting Magby to do well, but not that well. Nice. Let's see if Smoochum's Ice typing gives it the advantage it needs.
2:38 "Chuck's Poliwhirl"
Wait, what? Noooo - he's a PoliWRATH, not a Poliwhirl. Oooops.
3:45 Also, you're Burning quite a few Pidgey, I've noticed. Huh, that's lucky.
Oh, and Smokescreen - if this was Mystery Dungeon: Red/Blue Rescue Team or Explorers, that move would inflict "Whiffed" status on foes, drastically reducing their accuracy. If that existed in the main series, Smokescreen would be quite OP.
Imagine a little Magby getting rocks throw at it by a giant aerodactyl
I predict that this will be one of the better runs. I think Smoochum will be the best of the babies, but I'm sure that Magby will be at least top 3
I'm not so sure about smoochum. It's an ice type and its base stats aren't that great. 305 vs 360/365 of magby/elekid.
@@generaldreagonlps6889yeah, I'm predicting elekid since it gets all of the punches and it learns thunderpunch at level 9. Which is going to give it a massive head start.
Look, I know Chuck isn't the strongest gym leader out there, but he at least has a Poliwrath instead of a Poliwhirl! XD
I love Hooh too. My favorite Pokémon along with Espeon
Finally I miss this series
Oh wow, with those stats it should almost go like a normal Pokémon!
Not surprised Magby did well, it has the stats of a starter, fire is one of the best offensive + defensive types and it has a good move pool
18:30 the video starts getting real relatable 😭😂💯 I didn't let mine evolve either
Great Video and great playthroughs! Enjoyed it
I’m wondering if you ever considered a Sunny Day set against Red, as it still serves a purpose of lessening Thunder accuracy and weakening Blastoise’s Surf.
I think you're overstating the impact of DVs on a Pokemon's performance but I also 100% agree HP Ice was the only good choice here. Lance's Dragonites need the guaranteed OHKOs
4:56 - If he chooses the move with the most damage, his Pidgey would use Tackle, as it should do more dmg than Mud-Slap, because STAB. I think it just prefers Accuracy control. Pidgeotto is the one that prioritizes damage
Developers had to choose between multiple saves and allowing to catch all the pokemon. Being able to catch all the pokemon was more important.
Great, now we literally have neither.
(Multiple saves are not a built-in option)
That's wild that Magby is in the same tier as Gengar.
I love fire type pokemon, charmander is my absolute favorite fire type starter. However, totodile is, in my opinion, the single best starter ever made.
Are you going to do a Toxel run? Also every other future baby like Riolu?
Hey Scott! Cool video! One thing I can't seem to find any information on online is how much DV's actually increase or decrease your stats.
I was wondering, if in some Scenarios it would actually be worth trading slightly lower stats for a more useful and optimal hidden power type. What are your thoughts on this?
I always wanted Jynx, Magmar, Electrabuzz, Mr Mine, etc to be better, and evolve. I was super excited about baby forms introduced in gen 2. Unfortunately, I missed a bunch of stuff because I quit buying Gameboys after DS was announced. I had a bunch of fun once they came to the Switch though.
Even if you hadn't reset your old file, the save battery's probably dead now. Mine are :/ I wanted to go back to the GB and GBC games and see what my team-building mentality was as a kid but I couldn't.
"Feuer Frei" -Song of Rammstein
Magby the Mag-nificent! I do wonder how Smoochum and Elekid will compare. Magby seems like it is the most balanced stat-wise.
I think Magby having virtually no bad match-ups will keep it ahead of the others. Smoochum and Elekid have more potential to hurt things much harder, but they're also much frailer and have worse type match-ups into Crystal.
Yay. Magy is my favorite baby mon
Need to finish the series with a kangaskan or blissey gen 2 video. Would make sense
pre-watching thoughts
75 atk / 70 spatk / 83 speed? that's almost a competent pokemon
this could work
fighting Red and having a Rest Curse set, name a more perfect combo.
Honestly, I think pure fire types benefit most from hidden power grass. Grass uses special attack and hits for super effective damage against all of fire's weaknesses: water, ground, and rock. You can get it with 70 base damage by setting your attack and defense dv's to 14 each. With fire and grass you hit everything for at least neutal except fire and dragon. I admit ice is nice for the dragons though.
My prediction is that Elekid beats Magby. Very similar stats but electric is a better defensive type than fire and Elekid gets Ice Punch for better coverage.
E: Though HP Ice does possibly change things in that regard... I think the really sad thing is that there's the hugely centralising curse play at the end. It would be awesome to think that Elekid doesn't need to set up and could get by on damage along but I doubt it.
Still waiting for this to be some whole big gag about him having a kid.
Does make me wonder for how Magmortar and Electivire would do in either Gen 1 or 2. Maybe a future backport stream idea?
Between Magby and Elekid...I've always preferred Elekid; not only does he have a cooler design, and a better movepool, but being a Gen 4 boy I find Electivire to be cooler than Magmortar.
Magby might have slightly higher stats, but that doesn't matter to me; I still love Elekid.
My second-favourite is, of course, Togepi - pretty much solely because of Togekiss, rather than anything to do with Togepi himself. Cleffa's third, because Clefable's great, then Magby's fourth. Igglybuff, I don't really care for, outside of Mystery Dungeon: Explorers of Sky's Igglybuff in that Special Episode (a flashback to Guildmaster Wigglytuff's childhood adventures). Tyrogue...eh, poor movepool and frustrating evolution requirements means he's on the lower end; he's fifth to the 'buff's sixth. Smoochum is my least liked 'baby' as I hate Jynx, for multiple reasons.
tl;dr: list of favourites: Elekid, Togepi, Cleffa, Magby, Tyrogue, Igglybuff, Smoochum.
Wow, the little guy is a beast
Honestly, to differentiate Will from his predecessor Lorelei, he should have had a Slowking
My favorite baby Pokémon!
Finally some buff babies.