Yeeaaah I think if you have a big platform, saying stuff like that can become a bit of a self fulfilling prophecy. And if that’s the game you have your heart set on, it just sucks to hear. Especially if it’s not true!
My first fighting game was STRIVE, and it's simplicity did give me a nice balance of a good entry-level game with some healthy amount of depth to sink my teeth into. I've since become more enamoured with the mechanics of Blazblue. In my opinion, Finding a more entry-level game would be better in the long-term for beginners so they don't get overwhelmed with too much from their first game. However, no one should gatekeep themselves from more complex games or force themselves to start with something on the same level as Footsies or Fantasy Strike. Whether beginner or casual, it's your journey, start wherever you feel most comfortable.
As a casual I've been having some good matches on T7. In games like DBFZ, Granblue or DnF I can't get anywhere without grinding combos in the lab and I hate that, but in T7 I found plenty of other casuals.
Imo the DOA series is one of, if not the best example of a casual/beginner friendly game while still having a lot of depth for those who want to stick with it. It's easy to pick up with a free-to-play version, controls are easy to learn, it has flashy stage interactions, lots of costumes to unlock (or buy 😶), and if you're scared to go online, even turning off your brain and mashing against CPUs is fun since if you choose random in VS mode, it will randomize the character every match. Online population varies based on game/platform/time, but you can usually find at least a few lobbies or people in ranked at most hours-and DOA5/6 allow you to play certain offline modes while searching for a match, which is something more games should do. ...alright shilling session over for now lol
koihime and phantom breaker are my underrated beginner middle ground games, that I have mixed feelings with as far as single player casual content goes. that both suffer from being hard to find players koihime is just so simple it's easy to learn. know how to play footsies, remember everything is minus, and you are a decent koihime player no matter what fg your main games are, every character has the same frame data with most combos being 5b special, outside of hougeki routes which you can follow a similar basic structure with anyone. they removed story mode in ryorairai version for some reason. still have arcade mode but just an intro and ending without the other vn cutscenes between matches. pbo is just kind of dumb mashing fun and freedom to jump around, with odd mechanics. story mode is ok but frustrating since theres no guides on where you are supposed to continue to get different routes. while some character's story arcs pretty much got unreasonably hard to accomplish, and i dont know if changing ai difficulty even affect them(seem too hard).
Solid video as usual! Beginner and causal get used so interchangeably and it’s much better when a clear definition exists. To be fair, someone can hop in anywhere and find what they like cuz they all have so much to offer. SF6 and Tekken 8 are definitely holding the reigns of supremacy. GGST is good fun that acts as a great intro beyond the world of classic fighters. Can’t wait for your next upload!
Thank you! Definitely, there’s so many great fighting games out at the moment. The best thing would be to have a friend who has every game so you can try them without paying before you find the one you like the most
I get what your saying but as someone who used to be a beginner, I think that games that require me to interact with people outside of the the game are the reason as to why I chose not to play them at the time, I wouldn’t say that it’s a lack of effort of wanting to learn as I played ggst when it dropped and spent actual effort to learning the game but I would not have played sf3 when I started playing fighting games as there is no good way for what i deem as a beginner to get into the fgc
hi hi just discovered this channel about an hour ago and was wondering if you could share your opinion on Y.O.M.I HUSTLE or your only move is hustle because i think its a really unique take on fighting games and i think hearing your opinion on the game could be quite interesting
I dont mind get informed about mechanics n watching vids like this, I even bought samsho, but ever since i did it hell nah no way in buyin a dead game again. Im lazy n with lil very lil time to dedicate to gaming, the idea of just jumpin online n finding someone near my skill level simply feels good altho im definitely getting informed about various things, even advanced ones, before buyin the game. Theory n practice r 2 different things man
Hey that’s a good point. For some people that element is super important even if they do want to put an effort into learning the game. That’s what the third category of games in the video is great for I guess!
@@frumiousgaming yeah thats fair, good video nontheless I like ur style, just wanted to present an idea u maybe didnt consider based on what u said at the start of the vid
imo tekken is the best FG for casuals because the huge movelists and simple inputs! you can mash every single buttons and see cool things happen on the screen. its the only fg that i can play with my little sister
That’s a really good point! I loved tekken as a kid and I think that was part of why, I talked about it a bit in my video “Is Tekken too hard to get into for fighting game beginners?”
I don’t mean you just need to put a bit of effort in to get good at the game. I mean that for a game without a big online player base, you can still find people to play with if you put a bit of effort in (joining some discords, persuading your friends to play with you, etc)
Dude your videos keep getting better & better. And I totally agree but I would never be able to put into words for people to understand like you just did 🫡
i think it’s insane to say any game is “beyond the point of getting into” fucking ridiculous and harmful thing to put into the fgc
Yeeaaah I think if you have a big platform, saying stuff like that can become a bit of a self fulfilling prophecy. And if that’s the game you have your heart set on, it just sucks to hear. Especially if it’s not true!
personally as long as a fighting game as an arcade mode agains't an A.I that I can set the difficulty to match my skills I'm happy.
My first fighting game was STRIVE, and it's simplicity did give me a nice balance of a good entry-level game with some healthy amount of depth to sink my teeth into. I've since become more enamoured with the mechanics of Blazblue. In my opinion, Finding a more entry-level game would be better in the long-term for beginners so they don't get overwhelmed with too much from their first game. However, no one should gatekeep themselves from more complex games or force themselves to start with something on the same level as Footsies or Fantasy Strike. Whether beginner or casual, it's your journey, start wherever you feel most comfortable.
As a casual I've been having some good matches on T7. In games like DBFZ, Granblue or DnF I can't get anywhere without grinding combos in the lab and I hate that, but in T7 I found plenty of other casuals.
Great video! The Gmod and TF2 model bits where really funny
Thanks buddy ☺️ I spent way too much time in gmod!
Imo the DOA series is one of, if not the best example of a casual/beginner friendly game while still having a lot of depth for those who want to stick with it. It's easy to pick up with a free-to-play version, controls are easy to learn, it has flashy stage interactions, lots of costumes to unlock (or buy 😶), and if you're scared to go online, even turning off your brain and mashing against CPUs is fun since if you choose random in VS mode, it will randomize the character every match.
Online population varies based on game/platform/time, but you can usually find at least a few lobbies or people in ranked at most hours-and DOA5/6 allow you to play certain offline modes while searching for a match, which is something more games should do.
...alright shilling session over for now lol
I’ve never tried doa, I definitely want to give it a go at some point!
This video is great. This is something I've tried to put into words before but never could
Thanks pal!
I can't believe you got me to bite at 7:08 😂Another great video, I always look forward to your stuff.
Thanks buddy 😝
koihime and phantom breaker are my underrated beginner middle ground games, that I have mixed feelings with as far as single player casual content goes. that both suffer from being hard to find players
koihime is just so simple it's easy to learn. know how to play footsies, remember everything is minus, and you are a decent koihime player no matter what fg your main games are, every character has the same frame data with most combos being 5b special, outside of hougeki routes which you can follow a similar basic structure with anyone. they removed story mode in ryorairai version for some reason. still have arcade mode but just an intro and ending without the other vn cutscenes between matches.
pbo is just kind of dumb mashing fun and freedom to jump around, with odd mechanics. story mode is ok but frustrating since theres no guides on where you are supposed to continue to get different routes. while some character's story arcs pretty much got unreasonably hard to accomplish, and i dont know if changing ai difficulty even affect them(seem too hard).
@@homurayurisquad1423 ooh I need to try those!
Solid video as usual! Beginner and causal get used so interchangeably and it’s much better when a clear definition exists. To be fair, someone can hop in anywhere and find what they like cuz they all have so much to offer. SF6 and Tekken 8 are definitely holding the reigns of supremacy. GGST is good fun that acts as a great intro beyond the world of classic fighters. Can’t wait for your next upload!
Thank you! Definitely, there’s so many great fighting games out at the moment. The best thing would be to have a friend who has every game so you can try them without paying before you find the one you like the most
I get what your saying but as someone who used to be a beginner, I think that games that require me to interact with people outside of the the game are the reason as to why I chose not to play them at the time, I wouldn’t say that it’s a lack of effort of wanting to learn as I played ggst when it dropped and spent actual effort to learning the game but I would not have played sf3 when I started playing fighting games as there is no good way for what i deem as a beginner to get into the fgc
hi hi just discovered this channel about an hour ago and was wondering if you could share your opinion on Y.O.M.I HUSTLE or your only move is hustle because i think its a really unique take on fighting games and i think hearing your opinion on the game could be quite interesting
Thanks for watching, yes I am planning a video on turn-based fighting games which will include yomi hustle!
Loving the content! Keep it coming!
Ok gotcha, off the try Garou Mark of the Wolves
I'm definitely a casual fighting game fan
Very good analysis video🎉
I dont mind get informed about mechanics n watching vids like this, I even bought samsho, but ever since i did it hell nah no way in buyin a dead game again. Im lazy n with lil very lil time to dedicate to gaming, the idea of just jumpin online n finding someone near my skill level simply feels good altho im definitely getting informed about various things, even advanced ones, before buyin the game. Theory n practice r 2 different things man
Hey that’s a good point. For some people that element is super important even if they do want to put an effort into learning the game. That’s what the third category of games in the video is great for I guess!
@@frumiousgaming yeah thats fair, good video nontheless I like ur style, just wanted to present an idea u maybe didnt consider based on what u said at the start of the vid
@@imavya I appreciate it!
imo tekken is the best FG for casuals because the huge movelists and simple inputs! you can mash every single buttons and see cool things happen on the screen. its the only fg that i can play with my little sister
Have you guys played Soul Calibur? Feels very similar to Tekken but I'd say it's even more casual friendly, doesn't have as many characters though.
@@night1952 I have played a bit of SC6 and it’s great! Probably going to talk about it in a video at some point
That’s a really good point! I loved tekken as a kid and I think that was part of why, I talked about it a bit in my video “Is Tekken too hard to get into for fighting game beginners?”
This video’s really awesome, shame to see it getting screwed over by the algorhythm
Thank you!
what u talking about how tekken 8 a game for casuals
4:56 But the netcode is such unplayable dogshit it might as well be offline only. Even (or especially) for casual players I've talked to.
If you "just need to put a bit of effort in", youre not a beginner lol
I don’t mean you just need to put a bit of effort in to get good at the game. I mean that for a game without a big online player base, you can still find people to play with if you put a bit of effort in (joining some discords, persuading your friends to play with you, etc)
Dude your videos keep getting better & better. And I totally agree but I would never be able to put into words for people to understand like you just did 🫡
I appreciate it Tony, thanks for all your support!