Tech 21 DP3X dUg Pinnick - Can it replace my B7K?

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  • Опубліковано 17 лис 2024

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  • @ferox965
    @ferox965 Рік тому +18

    I was set on the Darkglass. Tried the dUg on a whim. Walked out with the dUg and it's been on my rig ever since. Couple of years now. I play everything from soul, to country, to rock. Great pedal.

    • @FunkadelicPancho
      @FunkadelicPancho 28 днів тому

      It’s the most useful pedal I’ve ever owned

  • @marcavus1
    @marcavus1 Рік тому +4

    Mix channel sounds great in the mix to my ears.

  • @ObeseChess
    @ObeseChess Рік тому +6

    Great example of how subjective this all is - every single tone you demonstrated as being not very good sounded better to me than my B7K that I finally sold. Solid review. Cheers!

    • @Paajanenae
      @Paajanenae  Рік тому +1

      To clarify, I don't think any of the tones I presented were in any way bad! My criticism with this pedal lies in other, perhaps more minor things :)

    • @ObeseChess
      @ObeseChess Рік тому

      Fair enough! I thought they were very reasonable criticisms either way. @@Paajanenae

  • @flv2358
    @flv2358 Рік тому +7

    I’m in love with my SH1 unit. Quite versatile and with two channels.

    • @Paajanenae
      @Paajanenae  Рік тому

      I've tried it briefly and it seemed really solid and well built!

    • @flv2358
      @flv2358 Рік тому +2

      @@Paajanenae there’s more than meet the eye in this one - really good cab sim (based on EV speaker Marshall cabinets) and an interesting gain structure - pushed really hard it has a nice tube-like compression.

    • @Paajanenae
      @Paajanenae  Рік тому

      I really need to get my hands on one again, it just seems so cool and well thought out pedal!

    • @francoishtzl157
      @francoishtzl157 Рік тому

      @@flv2358 Tech21 product are made to reproduce a tube amp and cabsim

  • @nagchampa44
    @nagchampa44 Рік тому +4

    I have been using the actual Dug Ultra Bass 1000 amp since about 2017 and I bought the pedal when it came out with the thought it would be a perfect redundant back up however, the pedal doesn't come close to the actual amp and I sold the pedal. I think the key to the amp is the HPF and LPF on the separate channels. The top drive channel is useless on it's own, but it's purpose is to tweak the drive to lay on top of the clean low channel. Mixing both channels and increasing or decreasing the drive amount allows you to dial in nice clean tones if needed. I wish Tech21 would make a preamp only that was the exact preamp from the amp. I spoke to Tech21 directly about that and while that was discussed, as a company the decided to not do that, I guess because the DP3 was doing so well. I use IEM and go direct 99% of the time, so I'm basically carrying around a 1000 watt preamp! LOL

  • @iblisofficial479
    @iblisofficial479 Рік тому +12

    I use this pedal about 2 years…IT IS THE BEST EVER. No Way!!! N.1

  • @mmachine83
    @mmachine83 4 дні тому

    I listened to the DUg pedal randomly cause my bass/brother/mentor loves DUg. The dp3 is the next addition to my rig, followed by building my own Baron-H clone.

  • @souldustpro
    @souldustpro 9 місяців тому +1

    I am thinking about buying the Tech 21 dUG pedal and really I appreciate your honest review. I've been using the Bass Fly Rig V1 for awhile and love what it does, just looking for some new tones. I want to say that you are a great bass player, I dig your style... I also want to say that some of things you said you didn't like -- and then proceeded to demonstrate, are exactly what I DO like... I love the tones and so this review is incredibly helpful for me... Thank you!! 🤘

  • @bazZzment
    @bazZzment Рік тому +3

    Wow, what a great demo! Thank you so much for this comprehensive take on one of my favorite pedals. It really is versatile, I actually use it a lot without distortion for a clean-ish P-Bass tone that cuts well in a pop situation. I wish I had two channels and a little more control on the mids, but I get far by reducing the lows and highs and using the comp only a bit. I have also had to tame the compressor by reducing my bass' output sometimes, but I still really like the comp for being able to REALLY limit and not just being too soft and transparent as many other devices do.

    • @Paajanenae
      @Paajanenae  Рік тому +1

      It does sound good! My main gripe with this definitely is the lackluster channel interaction, with a better designed two channels this would've been a great choice for a lot of players.

  • @Ruovikko
    @Ruovikko Рік тому +3

    Helevetin kovvaa kontenttia taas kerran! Täyttä asiaa rehdillä no bullshit -meiningillä.
    Tech21:n purkeista kiinnostaisi tietää miksi esim. VT Bass Deluxen valmistus lopetettiin ja nyt yritetään työntää näitä hiivatin littanoita, todella spesifin soundin fly-rigejä tilalle.

    • @Paajanenae
      @Paajanenae  Рік тому +2

      Kiitosta, tähän pyritään! VT Bass Deluxe on jo aika iäkäs pedaali eikä niin suosittu vrt. Bass Driver, vissiin ei enää menekki riittänyt perustelemaan. Eiköhän tuolta tule lisää uutta heti kun koronan vaikutuksista päästään eroon :)

  • @codyhansonbass
    @codyhansonbass Рік тому +3

    I love your honest reviews.

    • @Paajanenae
      @Paajanenae  Рік тому +1

      Thank you! Honest and fair is the way to go ✌️

  • @topcurve4963
    @topcurve4963 11 місяців тому

    Besides the things you didn't like about the dUg Pinnick Tech 21 pedal....
    It sounded absolutely amazing on my end....
    Listening to your video with old school headphones....
    Every example of this pedal came cut through the mix...
    And really brought out the tone of your Bass! 👍

  • @larsetom1
    @larsetom1 Рік тому +1

    I would actually go further to say that it really has one channel. I never use the pedal out of the "mix" mode. I also think that versatility is not that important to me as I usually don't change the settings much once I've got my tone down. I think your criticisms are generally on the money. I do have a Darkglass Alpha/Omega, however, the DP-3 is on more than any other pedal I have. For all its weaknesses, the Dug delivers!

  • @5stringKen
    @5stringKen Рік тому +2

    This is my favorite pedal for hard rock and metal. I've had a few bandleaders compliment my 'clang'. On top of that, I highly recommend the following cool trick that I use to bring my tone from clang to purr and back: dial down the passive tone control on your bass (most of my active basses have a passive tone). Because this is a multiband pedal, rolling off highs removes the clang and much of the distortion. So, I can easily go from dUg/Tool to ZZ Top and back.
    You do make valid points. I never use the clean channel for the reasons you mentioned - it's either dirty or bypassed. But I love the dirty tones so much I don't consider this a negative. Aside from that, it seems to me that you would prefer a traditional full range distortion, and that's fine. In fact I never recommend the DP3X without caveats because it's so unusual. But again, it's my favorite: makes my P-style basses sound like dUg (or ZZ Top or other), and my dual bucker Zon sound like Tool or Entwistle's Alembic.

    • @Paajanenae
      @Paajanenae  Рік тому

      Using the tone roll-off to control the high end is an ingenious trick, I would've never figured that out but it makes perfect sense!

  • @elStevobass
    @elStevobass Рік тому +2

    I thought every setting you used in the video was great! Thats all the proof you need right there. Each audio example sat in the mix great and didn't get in the way of the guitars which is exactly what we're looking for. And what was it - half a dozen totally useful tones that are all vastly different? Great demo for any tool to shape bass tones.
    I've had this pedal for a few years now in 2 different rigs - one in the loop of my Fractal rig and one on my pedalboard with an Xotic Blender pedal. In both instances I blend my own version of 'DuG Grind' in with my own sound and it is ridiculous. So good. On its own, yeah, I'll concede, its kinda the Bass version of dating a stripper - tricky to tame but really worth it.
    I own it, I use it to great effect and I will immediately buy another one when it breaks.
    My humble advice: Do not miss this gem of a pedal.

    • @Paajanenae
      @Paajanenae  Рік тому

      Thank you! There's no use trying to showcase sounds that don't work, is there? 😉 I really like the Tech 21 pedals, those are great!

  • @somebrains5431
    @somebrains5431 Рік тому

    This pedal is growing on me. I never gave it a chance bc I didn’t like the Dug head.
    That direction the head went reminds me of the Billy Sheehan Ampeg preamp or the Scrambler on full fizz.
    This pedal sounds useable.

  • @mr.logicpants2835
    @mr.logicpants2835 3 місяці тому +2

    dUg's tone is aggressive. That's the allure of this pedal.

  • @markszabo3794
    @markszabo3794 Рік тому

    I’ve had success making use of the analog mojo of this pedal. I set it right at the edge of breakup. For normal sound I just play consistently. For mellow I roll off treble on the bass. For the dUg grind I either dig in or use a pick. Once I got my right hand consistent this thing became way more versatile.
    Love the reviews! ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️

    • @Paajanenae
      @Paajanenae  Рік тому +1

      Thank you! I love the way you take full advantage of everything this pedal has to offer with just some touch adjustments!

  • @SisterAbdullahX
    @SisterAbdullahX Рік тому +1

    Sounds great to me!

  • @jonathankall3062
    @jonathankall3062 Рік тому +1

    Yeah but it’s for all of that are NUTS over dUg’s Unique - Aggressive Tones and Styles. Similarly to the very unique, and practically impossible to duplicate, tones and sounds that King’s X guitarist Ty Tabor gets so beautifully.!! #dUg #Kingsxrocks

  • @666thsense
    @666thsense 7 місяців тому

    i have a darkglass microtubes 500 head and it annoys me to no end that there’s not enough low end and the gain distorts the low end. dugs signature sound is a smooth low end with grit mixed on top so that the bass is always smooth in the background and never ever gets lost. i wish they’d make more of his heads, that thing is perfect.

  • @granttaskerud5367
    @granttaskerud5367 6 місяців тому

    Love it.. Two years live... But only with the mix button on. Lol
    No separate level controls. I just equal the two channels as much as possible. Two different tones two different volumes is all that's possible. Tiny adjustments make a huge change in sound. So don't just crank an eq. Still i just leave mix on and only adjust the dist knob and chunk around 9pm until ozzy or other clanky need. Im going to just start using green only.. No mix. I think there are different outputs from the xlr vs the 1/4 in out puts. I wish it had dual out/parallel parts using both outputs simultaneously.

  • @scottearl6094
    @scottearl6094 5 місяців тому

    I agree with everything you said I’ve been running it through the sans amp bass driver I know weird just messing around and I found the DI out on the bass driver really changed the sound for the better. It was crazy. My only concern now is I have not been able to try it out in a band situation. It sounds great by itself, but I’m not sure it’s gonna cut in the mix live. It’s not giving me the mids that I’m used to.

  • @badger4361
    @badger4361 Рік тому +4

    I found the Doug Pinnick pedal to be a bit of a one trick pony, but man what a trick. I run mine as well as some Darkglass gear and an Empress Compressor, that works very well, expensive setup though (aern't they all). 😅

    • @Paajanenae
      @Paajanenae  Рік тому +1

      Yeah that setup might already be nudging it toward the "overkill" category 😂 It's a one-trick pony but if it works, it works 👌

    • @ferox965
      @ferox965 Рік тому +1

      I've been using mine for years. Country, blues, funk, soul, hard rock, I play whatever I'm paid to play. Not a one trick pony.

    • @FunkadelicPancho
      @FunkadelicPancho 4 місяці тому

      ​@@ferox965exactly my experience

  • @loriszanelli2966
    @loriszanelli2966 10 місяців тому

    I’ve buyed this pedal Because of the distortion channel and the chance to ‘condense’ both Compressor and Tuner into 1 pedal. After a week of digging into it, I’ve switched back my Laney Digbeth bass pre.
    The ‘clean’ tones were too much affected by the eq and the comp makes you loose waaaay too much dynamics, even with the pedal turned off.
    With the pedal plugged in I almost felt like every bass that I own sounds the same. The distortion Sounds great but a clean blend would be much appreciated.

    • @Farewelltokingz
      @Farewelltokingz 6 місяців тому

      The pedal clean blends for you. It’s multi band so your high frequencies are distorted and your bottom ends stays smooth and big and clean.

  • @matthewduncan9405
    @matthewduncan9405 Рік тому +2

    If you like to live in the heavy side for a gig this pedal kicks ass. If you are considering buying it pretend there isn’t a clean channel. You can’t use both because the volume difference is very very noticeable and the clean channel sucks.

    • @Paajanenae
      @Paajanenae  Рік тому

      Very well said! I'm not sure why they included the clean channel tbh.

    • @NodakSavage
      @NodakSavage Рік тому

      strictly bought it for an always on mix mode pedal. It's a b3k b7k killer all day long in my opinion

  • @classicmetaldude
    @classicmetaldude 7 місяців тому

    SOUNDS SO GOOD

  • @GlauberJoe
    @GlauberJoe Рік тому +2

    Tell us about that Aria Pro 2 man, I had one in the early 90s and it was so cool! It was my very fist bass and I miss it... What are the mods you did, is that the original neck and headstock? Pickups are the originals or EMGs? Awesome tone, and beautiful art on it! Love to hear all about it!

    • @Paajanenae
      @Paajanenae  Рік тому +1

      Hahah, thank you! It's (partly) an old Aria Pro II XRB-2 which was a Jackson Concert Bass style bass. The body is original but it has been repainted since in this relic style by a hobbyist. They also installed the neck, which I think is an Allparts neck or similar and it's also too short since the original had 24 frets at the neck joint and this one only has 20 frets. When I got it it couldn't be intonated, so I moved the bridge back a bit and I also changed the tuners to Schaller tuners. No other mods here (except for removing the tone control), the electronics are all original still!

    • @GlauberJoe
      @GlauberJoe Рік тому

      @@Paajanenae Pretty awesome tone, exactly as I remembered! You just added flame to my gas heheh Really enjoyed it! Keep rocking man, cheers from a bass fellow from Brazil! 👍

  • @scotkaeff7456
    @scotkaeff7456 Рік тому

    Great review! I'm an avowed Tech 21 fan and user (Bass Fly Rig and SH-1 Steve Harris pedals), but the dUg gave me the same feelings as you got. I think a split mid-control, similar to the Steve, might have given it a little more versatility. But, having said that, can you get dUg's tones perfectly? Oh, yeah. And if that's where you want to live, this is a great, great pedal. Not for everyone, but it has its place.

    • @Paajanenae
      @Paajanenae  Рік тому +1

      Exactly! This pedal does dUg but not too much else. I've always really loved the Sansamp tones and the SH-1 is a great unit, it's a bit sad how far the DP3X is from those pedals.

  • @Farewelltokingz
    @Farewelltokingz 6 місяців тому

    Despite all of its flaws, this is king simply put. I’ve sold it for Darkglass and let me tell you that the sounds of the Darkglass are weak, compressed, and downright dull. The Dug on the other hand is nice and open while still being distorted. The clean tone mid boost sounds bad in isolation but it really helps keep the bass present while doing a clean passage.

  • @jackshittle
    @jackshittle Рік тому +1

    Damn. I was going to buy the DP-3X. I have an old VT Bass pedal (the one without the XLR but has the speaker sim button) but I wish it had a "blend" knob. So if the DP-3X isn't the pedal I should be looking for, what is? I'm just trying to get awesome clank. I went and got a B3K and for some reason it sounded like crap with my gear so I got rid of it. I'm playing a Modulus VJ w/ EMG's into a SWR SM400s into a SWR 2x12. No gigging (I'm retired) so it's just for fun in my home by myself. I want to like the Darkglass stuff but after tring the B3K and not liking it I'm kind of weary. Cheers!

    • @Paajanenae
      @Paajanenae  Рік тому +1

      You could try the SH1! While it doesn't have a blend control, the footswitchable channels give you a lot of control 😄 I have never been a fan of dry blend on bass pedals, I prefer to have it affected in some way. That's what the Way Huge Pork & Pickle does, the Clean Blend is a Neve-emulation! The distortion on that needs a bit work though 😅

    • @NodakSavage
      @NodakSavage Рік тому +4

      Dude, buy the pedal. The mass majority of those that use it have said it's not just great, but it's the best pedal they've ever used. The "only dug tones" is nonsense and is even proven in this video as not ever example sounded like dug. I had one, returned it, got the Steve Harris, which is pretty tame and maxed out on gain is super weak for any fuzz, plus the Harris distorts the low end. Sorry, I like my lows clean. Tried a b3k and returned that after 2 days and bought another Dug. I play in an industrial metal band and in a doom metal band and I use this pedal, always on, in both bands, though with completely different settings. The one trick pony only dug tone description of this pedal is total nonsense.

    • @francoishtzl157
      @francoishtzl157 Рік тому +1

      @@Paajanenae The YYZ unit is killer too, look simple but has some cool "secret" feature and is super versatile

  • @dupgab
    @dupgab Рік тому +1

    Try this Pedal with a mudd mid Heavy Bass and you will love this Pedal. It will cut all the mudd and get a good Tone. But if you take a Bass with emg it will Sound very very very scooped. Because this Pedal is so scoop😂.

  • @jamcam9
    @jamcam9 Рік тому

    I use a tech21 yyz pedal to add dirt and grit to my fretless jazz. It's a suuuuper temperamental pedal, though.

  • @jason.martin
    @jason.martin Місяць тому

    Wow great sounding demo, love the tone, your Bass pickups, where they stock?

    • @Paajanenae
      @Paajanenae  Місяць тому +1

      Yes! Original Aria Pro II pickups

    • @jason.martin
      @jason.martin Місяць тому

      @@Paajanenae on your other video with the Ibanez pedal you use at the front end, the main reason is the 3k boost that give clarity, have you tried just popping in an eq pedal?

    • @Paajanenae
      @Paajanenae  Місяць тому +1

      @jason.martin Yeah, using an eq gets you pretty far!

    • @jason.martin
      @jason.martin Місяць тому

      @@Paajanenae I will say that you have one of the best channels for Bass demos, Because you play like a man! So many others do horrible demos that it makes the product look bad. Yours crushes it.

    • @Paajanenae
      @Paajanenae  Місяць тому +1

      @@jason.martin thank you so much!

  • @ChaseTheBass878
    @ChaseTheBass878 Рік тому +4

    Love the new bass. Is that a mayones?

    • @SergeyZipir
      @SergeyZipir Рік тому

      I think, it's Fame Baphomet. Looks similar to Mayones Be (discontinued atm), but specs are different and Fame is not so expensive.
      Anyway, here it sounds pretty good.

    • @Paajanenae
      @Paajanenae  Рік тому +1

      Thanks! It's a Fame Baphomet IV, a straightforward Corvette copy made by Mayones for the German Musicstore.com. Cheap instruments with quality hardware. I'll tell more about it soon, it has quite a story :)

    • @discobassgroove
      @discobassgroove Рік тому +1

      Mustard actually

  • @fistinair1979
    @fistinair1979 Рік тому +1

    My two complaints about this pedal were that it is a little too scooped for my tastes and there was no way to get unity volume between the clean and distorted modes. Otherwise I enjoyed it.

    • @Paajanenae
      @Paajanenae  Рік тому +2

      Yeah the scoop was impossible to EQ out 😅

    • @naobakonjengbam9101
      @naobakonjengbam9101 Рік тому +1

      For that problem the best way is to use with another distortion pedal with a drive knob off in order to get dp-3x drive tone and the other pedal volume knob set with the same volume that you set on the dp-3x. That’s how I used mine(with a darkglass x ultra clean mode)

    • @fistinair1979
      @fistinair1979 Рік тому

      @@naobakonjengbam9101 yeah, I did it with a clean boost pedal. Just made for extra tapdancing.

  • @truckerron
    @truckerron Рік тому +3

    And at the end you point to nothing!! No links appeared.

    • @Paajanenae
      @Paajanenae  Рік тому

      Oh that's embarrassing! It should work now 👌

  • @zoltanmiski5364
    @zoltanmiski5364 Рік тому +1

    Hi! Can I ask which kind of stand are you using during the video for the pedal? I would be great for me, too. :)

    • @Paajanenae
      @Paajanenae  Рік тому

      It's a 3D printed stand, originally meant for the Darkglass Ultra series pedals! These are made by a guy who goes by the name Sietse de Krieger on Facebook and are super affordable. I think I paid less than 40€ incl. postage for my two sets!

    • @zoltanmiski5364
      @zoltanmiski5364 Рік тому

      @@Paajanenae great, I will check it, thanks a lot. :)

  • @ZiggyDude777
    @ZiggyDude777 Рік тому +2

    I wish the guitar parts were not hiding the bass tones with volume.

  • @waruta69
    @waruta69 19 днів тому

    Try it with a 12-string bass. It will make more sense.

  • @poxcr
    @poxcr 5 місяців тому

    4:09 It seems that you completely missed the point of this pedal. Why would you disparage a product just because it does EXACTLY what it was designed to do? Just get an XB Driver instead, it was designed to do everything you complained the DP3X can't do.