This manufacturer CHANGES in EVERY Borderlands game!
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- Опубліковано 3 жов 2024
- In Borderlands there are give or take, 12 manufacturers, but one changes in every single game to because something completely or hardly different then the previous iteration. This video documents these changes.
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Cool fun fact: Some parts of COV weapons are actually parts of other guns from Bl2
Glad to see I'm not the only one who also noticed this. Always thought it was a cool detail.
I thought I was tripping when I saw a BL2 Dahl rifle barrel on a COV weapon when I first found one.
Yeah I too have picked up on this
You nailed the pronunciation the first time man, my mum wanted to call me "Jayden" but thought that dyslexia was a trend
LMAO!
Same honestly same
@@jaedynbedford1007 the feeling for being missed out on novelty name tags or even coke cans (when they had names on them) has always been monumental
But nothing is more frustrating than WRITING YOUR OWN NAME on a document, only to have the paperwork filled out as "Jayden" once it's returned. Like, I went to all that work to spell it out for them and they still messed it up!
@Jaydyn_H oh 100% it's the worst thing in the world like just read how it's spelt please and thank you
@@jaedynbedford1007 I gotta say, never seen my name spelled your way before - ever had anyone of your own spelling find you and add you on social media just to ask if your mum couldn't spell either? I have. He said he was bored in a waiting room and tried to unite us all! Haha
I thought it was hilarious, but he said a lot of other people got upset - I laughed even harder!
S&S munitions should return those guns are great in bl1
S&S munitions returning as a weapons manufacturer to fill the gap left by COV and also have weapons, melees shields and grenades as options would be great.
For the Shields, I can see them as offering a bit of everything(roid, spike, nova and absorb), with uniques being able to hold two and legendaries 3 types of functions.
Legendary shield that drops ammo
They actually still exist! They make the beams of light for loot drops!
Eh, I'd rather they do something new but just as good.
I had one I lost it while I was picking up another gun
It went over a cliff
I believe another reason for S'n'S changing to bandit is as you said they had a distinct yellow paintjob, which would get confusing in B2 with Hyperion making everything in yellow
Id like to see a manufacturer that makes guns 100% out of organic tissue
Well everyone has their thing
Eridian weapons are made up of bones and chitinous material, but I usually prefer to pretend that they don't exist.
I would like S&S Munitions to return, Eridian to return, have a new manufacturer with Biopunk/organic firearms, melee, shields and greandes, as well as include Melee weapons, grenades and shields for EVERYONE in BL4, also retcon BL3 into a prophetic vision instead of actually canon.
@@drivanradosivic1357 Out of curiosity, why do you want to retcon bl3? Do you hate some of the characters in that game, hate the story, want to undo some of the deaths, or something else I'm not thinking of?
@@BrandonSwinney-j2v hate the story and deaths, plus I am of the opinion that Borderlands 3 and Wonderlands are great Gameplay, bad story sort of deal.
for BL3, Main story is so bad that the fact that the DLCs have a good story is a pleasant surprise.
I love Tediore. The chuck reload is quintessential Borderlands
**YEET!**
I hated the reload gimick when I started up Borderlands 2 until I found certain ones like the deliverence, but that was partly because Borderlands 1 had spoiled me on Tediore by repeatedly dropping the uniques that had built in ammo regen almost as frequently as the regular Tediore, and if the only difference is one is giving you ammo back why would you take the normal one?
Imagine this, next game, the bandit manufacturer makes grenades again. Except they are cluster bombs! Aka a larger bomb you can toss/plant with s longer detonation time that will do massive damage! At the cost of all your grenade ammo, doing more damage for each one used
why not a mini nuke type of grenade that has an insane radius and damage but uses all your total grenades each throw and leaves a 2 or 5 second lingering effect that hurts to stand on
@@jusdon7522
That seems some like Torgue then Bandit.
the biggest missed opportunity in the pre sequel would've been bringing back sledges shottys knockback effect my god that would have been so much fun with the low gravity
They should have kept in the bandit manufacturer quotes.
"I SMEARED MY DIARRHEA ON THE HANDLE, THAT'S VIRAL MARKETING!!"
Also, nice DDS backgroud music. You have taste.
The lore is a little rough, but I like the idea that bandit guns ARE S&S. HC magazines are incredibly complex, I doubt bandits could figure it out. They just butchered all the S&S weapons!
It's one thaught for sure. The fun thing with alot of this untapped lore is that headcannon can basically rein supreme until it's either confirmed or denied by the writers
Me and brother always thought S&S munitions were civilian guns. Like the weapons the old DAHL engineers used. Which kinda makes sense how they are replaced by bandit tech.
That's a really neat head-cannon
I wish they bought S&S back
And make their gimmick that they Reload automatically when not being used
So you could empty them, swap to another weapon, empty that one, return to the first and never need to actually reload
Or have an INFINITE ammo clip, they have digistruct tech or something that teleports the bullets into the mag
So drop reload?
@@l0sts0ul89thats just Tediore with less fun
S&S in BL1 had more perks than just high capacity. They also have good elemental tech second only to Maliwan, and their weapons tend to have balanced stats. Apart from slow reload (which makes sense since bigger mags are heavier), their only downside is that their machine guns have slow fire rate if they have even-numbered body types (body2 and body4). Fire rates are fine with odd-numbered body types (body3 and body5).
Have you ever done an allegiance run? S&S would be really fun as Roland or Mordy. Maybe also Lil, but I think Dahl offers more versatility just due to the Mercenary and Firefly class mods versus Tempest and Plague Bearer. Really just the Merc one, specifically, because it's not elemental-focused. Btw, yes, allegiance runs are fun even in BL1.
11:11 I'm all for the return of S&S as a weapons company! As for my fave, shucks! I have a hat with the Jakobs logo on it (see avatar), but Jake isn't really muh fave. Everyone dunks on Dahl for being ordinary (see also Soldier/Commando mains), but they're one of my most-used brands across all characters in BL1 and 2 (also, I'm usually a Soldier/Commando main). In BL1, they make some of muh faves: Mashers, Stompers, Cobras, Double Anarchies, "spiked" shotguns, and explody sniper rifles. And those are all common-ish weapon types! Their Legendaries aren't all that special. Btw, Lil can override the Stomper's one weakness (slow bullets) with her High Velocity skill.
If I were to have any borderlands gun irl, tediore would definitely be the coolest
Im a bit of a Tediore enthusiast myself
I'm more of a Maliwan guy
Torgue shotgun!
Hand it over!
I've been wanting a borderlands game with weapon dismantling. Maybe a V.H. skill tree to pull out interesting parts with low percentage chances on legendaries, until you put some points into a skill to nearly 100% pull the infinity barrel off while attaching it to a masher. Maybe recoil penalties. I could go on for hours but I've been up all night already.
Honestly would be super fun. Maybe a good gimmick for a spin off
I love how you say “what’s going on” in just a confused way rather than a intro-ey way.
S'goingon
Id really like eridiens to come back
Honestly would be really cool. Especially if they actually did good damage lol
Its crazy to me that theyre in EVERY borderlands game except for the best one
Thanks for pointing this out lol never thought about it after so many play throughs, in all games I’ll use a few Hyperian or Maliwan guns, but have always stuck with Jakobs, Dahl or vladof lately
Even Gemini isn't that bad as people think. It's just weird horizontal patern. It's 4 bullets for 2 ammo. The patern makes it into weird ass shotgun. It's like Black Snake from TPS, but with actual damage behind it. Also S&S has higher tech level, aka the Elemental boost. S&S is competetion to Maliwan, Believe it or not... And if we count in cut unfinished Rainmaker grenade launcher , S&S wouldn't be Top manufacture (because even Maliwan isn't best. Hellfire beats Volcano & Firehawk, Defiler beats Plague)
Then let's check BL2 Bandit. No elemental bonuses, low acuraccy, long reaload and mid damage. They have worst E-techs. No legendary nade, no legendary shield in WP (it was Bigg Thumpr, with the unpatched Roid of 5mil on lvl50). Besides Tattler, Slagga, Badaboom, Sawbar, Jolly Roger And Sky Rocket.You don't really see people using it.
Scav. Bandit in Space. It got even worse, Badaboom is only thing that stayed the same. No legendary Smg, still no nade. Sledge's shooty was suppose to Mimic BL1 sledge's with it's 11x projectiles and locked to melee accesory. Zim, better Gub, but there are better cryo items. Two shields that got "balanced". And if you check Things, it has same stats as Badaboom if it had 1x projectile.
Cov, even with it's Fun. It's mess, reload speed affects repair speed, while magazine size affects mag size, that's calculated outside heat reduction. Rifles and pistols do basicaly act the same and Launchers were chaotic mess. They do have good legendaries thou... Because BL3 has a lot of options anyway. Sawbar, NoPewPew, Gargoyle, Hydrafrost, Tizzy, Globtrottr, Yellow Cake, Rebound.
I want new S&S.... That's my point😂
S&S Munitions returning and being a banger like from Borderlands 1, along with shields and grenades and melees, turning them into S&S Armaments.
@@drivanradosivic1357 Only issue is, figuring out gimmick for them. In cut content from BL3, S&S used have trackers and Atlas could shoot trough walls.
My idea for ne S&S would be multi barrel weapons with reverse overheat mechanic (COV but reversed), where with more heat the less ammo you consume. Plus there would be like "heat stages" or gears where legendaries and uniques had extra effects along less ammo consumption
@@kvetoslavzeleny1764 well, S&S Munitions had high capacity, high fire rate and high accuracy, so something like the Heat mechanic that gives beneficial effects on normal and unique/legendary/pearl weapons would be good. As in, the Overheat mechanic would encourage you to do short controlled bursts, but the effects of the gun are better. Let's say Overheat can allow better guarantee of elemental effects, plus less ammo per shot(if gun has 5 ammo for 10 pellet shot, in the 75% and up we get 1 ammo for 10 pellet shot) and depending on the special Overheat effect, even ammo regen or explosive shot or more. Stuff like this would work.
@@drivanradosivic1357 I had the idea, if new Bandit is big mags again. Not consume ammo seems like more advance version of that. So that's why I think S&S would be that manufacture with that. And unlike COV you would like to have heat on max, because that would cause the less ammo cost per shot
I love the Wonderlands version of COV: Skulldugger because their crossbow type guns fire magic missiles when overheating.
most fun pearls is not a high bar lol but yeah I absolutely loved s&s weapons in Bl1
Who’s to say sns are the first beam makers? Nahhh they’re the most recent ones, and businesses don’t use the beams, the owners and sellers do. That’s why some bad guns have legendary status despite being shit.
Another good CoV AR is the NoPewPew. It's effectively an automatic minigun/shotgun hybrid that makes enemies explode on kill. THAT THING IS NUTS.
Also, why the hell are all of CoV's Legendary ARs fire elemental? You ever noticed that trend? It's weird.
Considering how much they use fire for decoration, I feel like the legendary COV guns all being fire was intentional, at least from a lore standpoint.
@@christianwright7581 It's actually only the Legendary ARs that are almost exclusively fire. Legendary pistols and launchers tend to be far more varied.
@@Techhunter_Talon o. Point still stands regardless though.
You know, I can imagine those gadgets that Ellie was forced to drop from the ship in BL3, due to Clap-Trap's own incompetence, could end up being a set-up for S&S to return as a gun manufacturer in a later game.
I mean, considering how Atlas was brought back from the dead, thanks to Rhys in Tales from the Borderlands, I wouldn't be surprised ifthis gave some more ambitious members of S&S an idea, to basically find a niche that they could use as their ticket back into the weaponsmithing game.
With a bunch of escapades leading to them finding what remains of Ellie's work, which could end up being reverse-engineered and adapted to their liking.
Maybe... but idk if left-handed guns are really that good of a manufacturer gimmick lmao
@@Cashew1405 Who's to say it has to be just left-handed guns? Could very well be guns that can be taken apart and used all akimbo style. (Like, imagine something like the Villar Perosa or other guns like it in some way)
Also, I think the grappling claw is self-explanatory.
@@retrogamelover2012 don't forget the jetpack. (I actually had to watch a clip to find out what else got ejected because it's been a while since I last did that mission)
@@BrandonSwinney-j2v Yeah, I'm aware of that. Probably would be akin to the O2 kits from the Pre-Sequel.
No love for the Chadd, also known as the poor man's infinity? I get it's only a blue, but it's still pretty sweet, and can generate with the Never Ending affix turning its already high heat limit to an endless stream of low-damage high-fire-rate shots
These kinds of videos are always bangers
Ey the Linage is fun as hell to use, and isn't bad so far. Haven't hit mayhem yet but I'll update with the ol incendiary build
Sledges shotgun slander will not be tolerated 😤😤😤
Bruh, there ain't no way you be using sledges in late game TPS or bl2, I refuse to believe
@@Cashew1405 TPS no, Bl2 100%. It is actually super underrated with the right setups on each character. It’s no raid boss killer at all, but it’s really good at mobbing
@@St4rkiller04 BRO WHAT, THEY ARE IDENDICAL BESIDES THE NAME. Your trolling 100%
@@Cashew1405 technically no, from what I remember you can’t get a vertical grip on the sledges in the presquel. The vertical grip actual makes a substantial difference and is why it works better in borderlands 2.
Sky rocket is a mad broken grenade when used correctly made by bandit, just like to note that here :)
Yeah, thought about including it in the vid but it's not really a real grenade in either game since it was dlc or pre-order only
You forgot to talk about the E-Tech Bandit weapons.
S&S changed from making guns to making the colored loot beams. No, really
Bro.
@@Cashew1405 yeah it’s from a radio commercial in BL3, they’re S&S accessories now
BRO! I talk about it the video
@@Cashew1405 yeah bro but they make colored loot beams now so chill
As we learned in the past couple of days, BL4 is going to take place in a distant Galaxy, on a hidden planet, so I have a strong feeling that most of the brands are going to be new except for the large Corp brands.
Bandit shotguns arent usually too bad when youre leveling. They are great for zero who can make great effect of their high damage with deception.
Welcome back.
S&S still exist in the lore, they make the waypoints on echo devices
In the video lol.
Imagine the Eridian weapons return from 1.
S&S was so cool.
S&S also had a high elemental chance. an explosive S&S gun could be devestating
If it took more than 1 shot, you weren't using a Jakobs.
Bandits made the beams in the first game, clearly
you forgot about Gearbox as a weapon manufacturer 😉
Some trivia about S&S munitions, they're the guys who makes all the loot beams in the games
....bruh
@@Cashew1405 ik, talk about a downgrade
I'm kinda glad you gave S&S the props they deserve. Like YES, they did have bigger mags. But they're genuinely like the best guns all around. And unlike Atlus (which was supposed to "Ultimate manufacturer" but never dropped more then a white for me). It's honestly annoying the later games just reduced them to "Hurr hurr, the big mag brand". And the lore they weren't out competiting the rest being why they folded is such trash. They'd give you pretty good Accuracy (to the point I didn't even know that was supposed to be Hyperion's Gimmick outside of Marcus), tech Proc on par with Maliwan, while couldn't do Jakobs damage numbers, you weren't waiting for it to cycle at least.
It's a real shame that gearbox swept S&S under the rug
for reeeeaaaal
I'm gonna be honest, I wish S&S came back instead of more bandit manufacturers.
Like... yeah, bandits making weapons sounds cool, but good Lord are they mid as hell (except maybe BL3, but still), they might as well just bring the original S&S back.
Slowly becoming my favourite borderlands creator, keep rocking it mate
Hear me out
Keep s&s and bandit
Bandit has their own overheat system
S&S and keep their attack speed and mag size accuracy
The video nobody knew we needed 😊
Still waiting for the Draco and Orion to return 😢
ngl in the pre sequel, the Bogenala was my fav scav shotgun since it trashtalked all the time xD
Would've never thought I'd see someone speak highly of the boganella lmaooo. It's def good for a laugh every now and then.
S&S was my favorite manufacturer in BL1. They had a really sleek look to them, and the yellow on black tint was excellent. Hated the Bandit weapons, and my friends always told me that they were the same as S&S.
3:08 Nope, not even close to the highest slag chance in the game.
I thought I said one of the highest. If I did say that, my bad lol.
Imagine if s&s munitions returned in borderlands 4 and brought back the crux and orion
Fucking hate how SnS got ruined in 2, and then Bandit got ruined AGAIN in 3. So many manufacturer gimmicks are just unfun to use in BL3, but Maliwan, Atlas and COV have some of the best guns in the game so you have to use them if you want to do harder difficulties.
I dropped out after the last main DLC, the Kreig one. But nothing encapsulates my hate more than the Light Show legendary pistol. Its only gimmick is that it shoots 4 bullets for the price of 1. But fuck its basically x4 damage for no drawback so use it and deal with the stupid overheat gimmick i guess.
what pistol is that on the left in 0:17?
The grog nozzle lmao
Bro pulled up with the worst teeth of Terra take 💀
You ain't killing a single enemy with that gun in op10, it's unusable lmao
@@Cashew1405 try it point blank on an axton grenade build ;) (also check out garnet anarchist vid on it)
@@Cashew1405 a LOT of things aren't good for OP10, is Teeth of Terra at least good for NVHM, TVHM and UVHM?
@@Cashew1405 try it point blank on grenade axton
Well, your not going to have one in normal mode since Terra is lvl 50 in both Normal and True modes. Never tried it on true but have in vanilla uvhm and it still sucked there
The Gub actually has a hidden stat.
If you see one, you get cursed. That's now your only world drop legendary, and that stat is tied to your _soul_ so reinstalling the game doesn't help.
They wanted to be QuiRKy so bad they turned SnS into the dogshit we know as bandit and later COV. So ugly, and my god so bad.
I may be stupid, but looking only at design it seems like bl1 s&s became bl2 hyperion and bl1 hyperion became bl2 bandit
No, not really. Hyperion in bl1 was focused on high accuracy. S&S is still a pretty unique manufacturer when not talking about mag size. It has high tech stat's, reload and damage. Bl2 Hyperion had its own unique gimmock
@@Cashew1405 i wrote lookin only at design
0 mention of the Party Popper from TPS, now I'm sad. Lol jk, well kinda, Ik Jack kinda makes every gun in that game look good but I can't help it. Sometimes I just love to equip the Party Popper and run around blasting Cryo boosted (thanks to Jack's skill Sponsored by and using a Cryo element Maliwan) confetti on everyone lol. Like a weird, pistol, shotgun kinda hybrid thingy (pun intended). Surprisingly alright gun despite the weird projectile pattern.
i fking hate bandit / cov
i wish they would simply make SnS gimmick that they have different ammo / magazine types
such auto reloads or random elemental dmg / random reload bonus
or different bullet types
with legendaries such as the fibber
SnS has so much potential
then they could make bandit their own rarity instead where some guns can drop as bandit guns
so they are like glitch guns from TPS
I remember getting Conference Call in Bl2.. i shot it ONCE. That is the most wild legendary I ever got
Yes it's Hyperion not bandit
I honestly really liked SnS guns in BL1, i miss them. Bandit/Scav/CoC are okay, but i never really used them.
S&s we're built different. They were mostly usable when you got them and could compete on damage normally. I hardly ever used bandit and cov ever
COV are mechanically the most fun iteration imo but I think they are visually the worst because they are so visually overloaded that they all look identical
COV was actually my favorite manufacturer in BL3, I had so much fun with that style of gameplay.
I loved sns guns, hated bandit and scav huns, cov are ok, especially rifles.
S&S redemption would be awesome
Factsss
S&S felt so much more professional, would have been nice if the highest tier were S and everything else was bandit
cov gimmick is my fav of them
The poop rocket launcher is my favourite
@@wafflestcattash4818cov sawbar goes brrrr
@@luismakeup08 how do I get that?
@@wafflestcattash4818
Google "Lootlemon Sawbar Borderlands 3"
Loot Lemon helps with skills, items, and so much more across the Borderlands games
I personally love Dahl in all of the games you guys just don’t know how to use them or which ones are good
Cool fact: S an S was the best of them all. Bandit was dog shit and cov is stupid and wack.
S&S should have been in borderlands 2
I never noticed the increase reload of S&S guns in Borderlands 1. They were so useful as just general loot, I rarely even was looking at uniques/legendaries beyond the point I picked them up as part a quest like T.K. Baha's Wave or the Tediors that had Ammo Regen built in, because of how reliable S&S was and if I needed something with a little more oomph I was hunting for Jackobs as an option to switch out on my loadout especially for an explosive sniper.
The sonic adventure music just made this video so much better
Only thing I gotta say is the teeth of terras only redeeming quality is that it gets the same glitch that the pimpernel gets when being offhanded by sal with a launcher in your right hand, it'll take the damage from the launcher and put it into the teeths pellets
I've always wished the Teeth was good, but it just doesn't scale and needs way too precise aim for a shotgun.
I hate bandit and cov weapons. I refuse to use them.
One of my first legendaries was the Thanatos (BTH i think it was indeed my first). It was the bare bones, run on the mill version, and it spawn with something like a 79 bullet magazine and 8 shots per second, and used it for a long while. Only replaced it around the Old Haven, when facing the Crimson Lance.
It's the magical video
My favorite brands are vladof and jakobs
I think it would be really funny if, considering S&S makes the weapon lights, they were brought back as a gun manufacturer that only has orange drops but most of them are fake legendaries.
Slagga has the highest Slagg change than any other in the game? Snipers, can have even higher, but did you mean smg, chulain, thou it's unusable becase selfslagging 😂 but the scav, would be much cooler that they were called scavenger for real in the tps other than shortened scav, I would also like to see gun manufarer as gearbox but not only as starting weapons or just golden key
I meant to say "one of the highest" instead of just "the highest" my bad
Me and me brother both had characters in bl 1 with s and g as the first and last name so we joked our characters ran s&s even starting a UA-cam channel with the name S&S quests and we had the reason behind the loss of the company being that Hyperion starting killing the competition so we dropped our banners that's when the bandits stole the factory's and supply's and started refurbishing s&s munitions into bandit tek
Omg that's sick. Wholesome moments fr
for gameplay COV is the best
S&S is my favourite of them all. CoV were pretty good but they didn't have an Orion, so S&S win for me
Yakuza, Persona and sonic music in one video??? you have NO SWAG!!!
noPewPewPewPewPew
Song is Interplanetary spark
s&s fell apart before the series of bl2 and then the bandits started acrapping the guns and making there own then the cov took over
Wow bandit shields give you more melee damage. Man I wonder what lovable bandit that would be good for
I want S&S to be the villain in bl4 but my expectations for bl4 are less than concord…
That's a bit much lol. I highly doubt that S&S will ever be the villians, most borderlands fans don't even know who they are.
id love to see s and s come back in 4
He said bo1😂
I MISS S&S
The trick with Bandit guns
Burst fire
I used one to take down the warrior the first three shot got me those crits
cashew nuts are the best nuts
I hate to admit it but I booted up BL3 just for the shits like right after this video and I got the S&S ad on the first tower I sabotaged
BRO WHAT... I litterally spent hours waiting at a crimson radio tower and never got it lmaooo
@@Cashew1405 I’m so sorry for your loss
Krieg can "technically" make any gun a bandit branded weapon
You forgot Gearbox
Really?! They changed S&S to Bandit because they thought it would be cool to have bandits making their own weapons?! My god thats stupid. Almost as stupid as Borderlands 3s story.
Idk, it's not that stupid. When they made bl2 they wanted to diversify the manufacturers and make each if them more unique.
At the time they probs thought that S&S was a bit bland
@@Cashew1405 I thought S&S stood out well. Two brothers who wanted mag sizes to be enormous compared to the explosive Torgue, the Elemental Maliwan, the Accuracy obsessed Hyperion, the single shot Jakobs... It's so disappointing to see a titan of weapons be reduced to a light beam manufacturer.
Edit: Spelling errors.
CASHEW SMELLS OF HYPERION!
I admit it.. it's true