I beat a Hellcat! Trans am Ws6 vs Hellcat, Firehawk, and Chevelle
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- Опубліковано 4 лип 2017
- Blaine County Cruise Race Day! Got to race a few people in my 2002 WS6
I recently got a new heads cam set up in my Trans Am. My mods are in the video.
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Good old fashioned run what you brought fun. My kind of racing! :-D
Your foot must be sore from kicking all that ass way to go bro
Heck yeah bro! Nice work! 💯
I like when everyone trashes the 4 speed automatic but with a stall converter and sport tune, well you seen it 🚦🏎🏁...❤️ my ls1...
Those autos was the shit with a stall and programmed but the 6 speed well is just so much fun
A 6spd is a fun toy but autos win you races 😎
I dont mean to be so off topic but does any of you know a trick to get back into an Instagram account?
I stupidly lost the account password. I appreciate any assistance you can give me!
@Zachariah Wallace instablaster =)
@Jase Titan thanks so much for your reply. I got to the site through google and Im waiting for the hacking stuff atm.
I see it takes quite some time so I will reply here later with my results.
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Yes we do comment if you have a fire it's I do it's a 96 trans am convertible with 285 hp love it
@@bordfronco2001 WS6 holler!
awesome run brother!!! I have 01 ws6. I have practically done/doing the exact upgrades you have done. they are putting my car together now. I wanna ask, how has your transmission held out? I have a 2400-2800 stall and stock rear end. have you had to do anything with your transmission since your upgrades???
Don't think we can't see you cheating! At 3:10 you can clearly see the clouds glued to the roof of your car, making your car lighter. That's the only way you pulled on these other guys. haha Coming from a WS6 daily driver. ;)
Clouds would hurt my traction a little more! Haha you caught me!
Awesome!
When I sae the convertible Firehawk and the WS6 pre match comparison, I put my money on the WS6 with headers. I was not disappointed. Convertibles weigh more because of extra support beams so they are slower.
Good Video👍 New subscriber!
Ron B thank you! I really appreciate it!
Love the ws6s
Very nice..cool video..👍👍👍
GHT RCP thank you for watching, and commenting!
Firehawk Trans am Firebird, all bad ass cars! Love my 2000 Firebird 🔥
Just subscribed
I appreciate it! Hopefully I can get some more videos out with the updates!
what was the RWHP ??
I got a 97 formula Trans Am rebuilt the LT1 rebuilt the trans rebuild the rear MAS Racing suspension runs like a monster
The elevation must be a killer. My wife's stock 1999 30th Anniversary Trans Am WS6 auto with 3.23's ran 8.65 1/8 mi on regular nitto tires here in Tennessee. If it was a heads/ cam/ headers/ exhaust/ stall/ with lower gears, it would drop way into the sevens with drag radials or slicks
Yeah this was an 8.5 ish but the 60 ft was like 2.1 and the car wasn't tuned very well. The exhaust past the Y was stock also. The track also wasn't prepped because this was part of a car cruise/car show and meant as just a fun thing.
The cam idling through the headers sounds fantastic. Are you planning on changing the cat-back/muffler eventually? I have a Borla mated to an ORY/LongTube but I have it dumped because the Borla was too quiet for me. I'm going to re-attach it after I get an aftermarket catalytic converter welded in + the electric cut out so I can switch between loud and respectful sound. Still stock camshaft here, though. lol
Southern Rex thanks for the comment! Please hit the subscribe button! I want to try the Speed engineering true dual system. I have cutouts ready to put on so I can have the street/strip sound! Catback is going to be one of my next steps. Again thanks for watching!
Hey just an update I got the Speed engineering true dual and installed them! My new tuner was helping me get my tune straight as my 4L60 started slipping. Once its rebuilt I am going to make another video with the new exhaust.
Dude I'm curious as hell as to what modifications you made on the trans am
At that time it was heads, a cam and a shit tune/wrong pushrods. I got the right pushrods and that helped a bunch. Now I added a little more and have been getting it tuned and it runs better! Thanks for watching my video!
Bro You have the stock 4l60e transmission?? And what mods??
Robert Campos H/C headers and a stall.
All out horsepower hellcat pretty impressive That Firebird was built on the Old foot Print as And it's very similar the older body style It was a monster traction machine and pulled real high geese on the skid pad and stock Was one of the best handling cars on the market Super sweet car Underrated platform W56 WTF GM Bring back the Pontiac Just remember Mustangs can run But they cannot hide cause firebirds fly
Ws6 baby way ahead of its time
What was the song in the beginning? Good video
1/8 mile I can't stand.
For real...run the 1/4 mile
In Montana we don't have a lot of options close by! I want to run the 1/4!
T/A's get lucky too. Love my red 98. It's finely getting a lsx 427. Should be lots faster than my 418 6.9 car. Built 4l60e, Moser 9" 4.11, Hoosier dr2's. 427 is going to a 700 lift zero lash sl cam motions.
You're a good driver man!✊🏾
How much did it cost you to do all the upgrades on your ws6?
Tayfun A Parts so far I have about $6,500 into it so far. Then labor/tuning for the heads and cam close to $2000.
The Okayest Guy how many ponies is it pushing and your current 1/4 mile score?
I'm thinking on making a WS6 build but I need some motivation.
@@someonesomewhere5426 Lose a few races and you'll have plenty of motivation lol.
Since this vid is 3 years old and you have another vid with a cam. Anything else done to the car? Do you still have it? Mine needs to get refreshed, especially the trans. By your slips I could tell you weren't getting the most out of the stall due to traction issues. Did you manage to put drags on it to cut the 60' times?
Hey! I have H/C full exhaust 3.91 gears. My 2/3 shift is acting up and due to some life events I have had to put the build on pause. I will hopefully get that built and a good tune on it!
Also this was at a cruise day event where the track wasn't prepped. Plus being high altitude in Montana it doesn't run as well as lower elevation cars.
@@theokayestguy9167 is your trans built, if you are having 2-3 shift issues, like slippage, your clutch packs may be on their way out which is where I'm at for the moment. I'm still on 2.73s too when I hit that 1.7 60 foot times.
@@theokayestguy9167 if you are in street tires with a stall, it will be very hard to gain traction even with a prepped track. I was doing 2.3 60's on street tires with my ss3800 but when I put nitto drs on, went to 1.8 and 1.7s. Your mph is were the DA will affect your speed. Mid 80s is around 104 to 106 in the 1/4.
@@theokayestguy9167 also, I've been in the ls scene since 1999 when I first got my 99 TA and now have my z28. I also tune with hptuners and saw your car stalling which is def tune related. Increasing idle speed is one way but the best is adjusting the overspeed/underspeed setting. That worked wonders for me and got rid of the idle hunting.
How much power does it put to the ground? Ws6 is my favorite car of all time!
At that time 383 rwhp. I was having some issues. Now I am having transmission issues! Once I fix it I will need to get another video up!
whats the point of a stall if your not going to use it
I love my firehawk
FastChevy Z28 firehawks are amazing cars!
@ the Okayest Guy! nice race, especially beating the so call (hellcat) can you tell me what is the horsepower and the foot pound of torque. and 0-60seconds is? thank you.
conrad testamark not sure of 0-60, it's around 430 rwhp.
Conrad, on my full exhaust/SLP lid only WS6 I got high 4s like 4.7s if I remember on my best run so far 0-60 which you can see here
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The Okayest Guy's 0-60 is probably a good 0.3 to 0.5s faster with his head/cam setup combined with his skilled launching. I also haven't gotten my car tuned yet, which probably isn't helping me. I can feel the power band moved up a little in the RPM range, but I did feel the power increase after switching from the stock manifold.
Southern Rex I need to work on my launch a little more! Need to get a little better tire to up lower that time.
I just bought new tires for my WS6 lol. I was starting to lose traction really bad in the rain, I could barely leave a stop light over 20% throttle... I was like it's time for tires. haha
Southern Rex what kind did you go with?
Car mag.'s in the 1990's , Hot Rod, Car Craft, etc. told you that 350 LT1 and LS1's could make serious power and that's what John Lingenfelter proved, too!😁 1990's, people!😁🔧
What it runs in the 1/8 ?
Cant see your time slip,
8.5. at 86 MPH, but this is after driving there 90 miles in the heat and going straight to running on a no prep track.
Have you come close in racing the dodge srt8 or coyote. That be a good race . Nice car man
Iki AMV I raced a coyote before I got the heads cam he pulled on me at first then kept an even lead and I couldn’t real him in! Hopefully get some good footage after the snow melts!
I beat a 5.0 mustang stock
Own a 97 Comp T/A and have been a Trans Am Fan Boy ever since watching Smokey and the Bandit as a kid, What numbers are you putting down with your mods? 420-455 range?
I am at 430 rwhp but I need a better tune! It runs a little rough
@@theokayestguy9167 a good Tune should really free up some HP. Im working with a Mail Order Tune right now. Car runs good, but I really need to pull some logs to send to my tuner so we can dial it in better.
McBride Motorsports right on! I will be doing the same. Just have to wait for the snow and ice to melt in Montana to be able to take it out.
@@theokayestguy9167 LoL that's awesome, I'm from Miles City and currently live in Indianapolis. Miss my home state. Nice to see theres some die hard TA fans back in my Home State
@@theokayestguy9167 You are at 430 to the wheels with just headers and a stall? Thats encouraging, Im about to start modding mine and they will be significantly more than headers and a stall.
Stumbled on this 3 years later but just gave me the motivation to go wrap my car up man if you could cut them 60ft times down you would be doing ALOT better
I think he was running street tires. Street tires with a stall is no fun. I had real problems hooking up until I went with drag radials, cut my 60' to 1.7
@@lifebringsus4393 I’ve had ALOT of fun with street tires and my 4000stall 😈😈😈
@@Tberg725 they make for a lot of smokey burnouts and fishtails but trying to get a low 60' isn't one of them.
@@lifebringsus4393 Yeah it didn't hook very well on the street tires!
@@theokayestguy9167 I was doing 2.3 to 2.4 60' with street tires before switching to the nitto drags.
What mods are on ur car
I have Custom grind Cam, TFS CNC 215s with supporting valve train mods, 1 7/8 Kooks LT, ORY, 3200 Yank SS Stall, LCA, SLP Lid, and Underdrive pulley. Stock muffler, intake and everything else is stock. BFGoodrich Sport Comp 2's 275x40-17. Thanks for watching!
The Okayest Guy what is your gear ratio
cnc7556 3.23 but I have 3.90s coming!
no drag radials? what was the alt and weather. seems slow, but if youre racing in Colorado those are good times
DT Hellland No drag radials and the track isn’t prepped very well. It’s up here in Montana so higher Altitude.
Wait... I'm so confused, video showed that you lost to the hellcat.. a super huge Firehawk / owner of a 99 black on Gray Firehawk. Help me understand what just happened or how I missed it...
He was definitely reeling me in! But if you look at the slip I squeaked out a win. Between reaction time/traction issues.
Yeah he beat the hellcat I had to go back and watch it myself. He cross the line before the hellcat did👍🏾
@@richardfoster2600 It was close for sure haha. But I squeaked out a win!
Pretty good for a car over 20 years old and still costs less than any fiat
okay guy, indeed
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The infamous LS1 lifter *tick noise. My original motor in my 99 Trans Am did it, my 2009 Silverado did it.
Mine ended up being pushrods were to short.. The installer didn't measure right and put the wrong ones in. Once that was fixed it picked up some power. Still some valve train noise but not this bad.
@@theokayestguy9167 totally get it. Glad you got it fixed. Awesome vid
Actually the ls1 lifters were way better than the later ls7 lifters. You can tell the difference by the ls1 lifters having only .065 travel. The ls7's have over .100 travel.
I road race my 93 LT-1 all the time, the Hellcats don't have a chance.
no matter how many camshafts and valves ford an mopar design their engines with. they arent gonna outdo the LS
130 in 3rd.... 161 in 4th 😎
Sry to make it 666 thumb up but is what it is. Badass brah
my 4300 lbs CTS-V wud blow the doors off them lazy lauching slugs & lack luster mph @ the other end .
I am sure you would. Maybe one day I could be like you.
@@theokayestguy9167 my apologies Mr. i just find 1/8 mile silly ! here in the Bay Area 1/4 mile $$$ street drags are king , there are A hand full of 2000 hp cruisers around you don't dare challenge , & even at 750 RWHP im just A little fish in A big pond lol . But your the real winner living up there in God's county.
@@martinkobert4321 no apology needed my man! The closest 1/4 mile track to me is 250+ miles away. My car isn’t much. It’s a fun hobby that gets the blood going. Having a family and other hobbies spread you thin! Thanks for watching my video and spending time to comment. Doesn’t get me any money, but I enjoy the like minded conversations! 🤙
@@theokayestguy9167 you said "gets the blood going" that's funny I been drag racing since I was 16 & now 62 & still never grew up ! Even now with A heart condition & pace maker nothing seems to get my blood going like A good sticky slick G force launch 😆 .
Love my trans am
Still my favorite vehicle I have owned! Subscribe for more this race season!
The Okayest Guy actually looking to beef up mine a little bit any ideas on how i could do that(new to that sort of thing)
Absolutely! What are your plans? That is really going to determine what route you want to go. I have definitely "wasted money" on things I thought would be good. If you have an idea of what you will primarily use it for ( drag strip, auto cross, or just daily driving) I can give you some feedback on what I would do first!
The Okayest Guy honestly just daily driving it's mist always nice to have that extra power
If thats the case, long tube headers, and a good cam kit will open it up! Also if you haven't swapped rear end gears thats a good route to go as well!
Looks line you got whopped on all of the races. Better luck next time. Also looks like thats just a v6 challenger.
Haha that’s funny. V6 challenger with the hellcat spoiler, hood, front splitter, wheels and a weird whine.. definitely a V6 😂
I want one
Racing with your t-tops out? Personally I felt like that slowed my Firehawk down lol, so anytime I raced, I'd put them bitches back in before hand!
You need some tires!
Fullforce LTX yes I do! If you follow my channel I finally got decent tires. Just need to work on launching.
Looking at ur times unless im wrong.... ur running 8.8's in the 1/8th?.... My 95 LT1 TA Convertible ran 8.8's in the 1/8th and 13.8 in the 1/4 ,...with just bolt on mods cat back, k&n cai, Hypertech Power Programmer, Trans Go Shift kit, 3.73 rear gears, pulleys, air foil, 8mm wires ect. But bone stock ls1's were coming to the track running 8.5's to 8.7's on the 1/8th...I believe u shud be running a bit faster but this is a old 2017 vid so maybe ur time is better now!
mark oshields I was having a lot of issues with the car but being in Montana didn’t help. Our DA is terrible.
I love white slips ha
Bryan Mayes Me too!
hahahaha "Hell Cat" ? Thats the slowest 5.7 r/t I've ever seen in my life.
😂😂 ok.
Bro running off on everybody. #DreamCar
Thanks man! I love it! Definitely work in progress.
ME VS MY FRIEND
firebird trans am thank you for subscribing and commenting! These are races between friends! All in good fun as you know!
You running a 6L or 5.7
TwinTurboLsx Currently the stock 5.7. If and when it goes, I will probably look for a truck 5.3 or 6.0! Thank you for commenting! Please subscribe!
Hmmmm I seen no hellcat get beat!!!!
Look at the time slip.
F-I-R-E-B-I-R-D = FIREBIRD Trans Am….NOT just “Trans Am.”
You are correct it is a Pontiac, Firebird Trans Am with a Ws6 package. It is also a Dodge, Challenger Hellcat. 🫡
Spinning aint winning and I don't care what folks say automatics always faster than manual even so much so when manual driver cant shift or pull out without smoking tires.
Get someone who can drive the hellcat you’d be stomped 👍
Doesn’t take that much skill to drive an auto……… virtually anybody can launch an auto with a few practice smh
It was an automatic.. The big issue we both had was getting traction. It was an unprep drag strip.
How in the world did you beat a hellcat. Is it really a hellcat.
Iki AMV yes, it is really a Hellcat.. there are a lot of factors in a race. HP/ weight and also traction. We were really close on all of those and I just got out ahead enough!
Hellcat needs driver mod and had a plug wire fall off. @@theokayestguy9167
andrew paul we both needed a tire mod is what we needed!
andrew paul With good tires I would be interested to see how we would line up now! The only real difference is I now I have the right size pushrods.. still need a good tune but HP/Weight I am still up a little.
He beat it because he got the jump and it's only a 1/8 mile race. Heads/cam/3200 stall I can totally buy him getting the jump. The stall with traction you can cut like a 1.6 second 60 foot or better. At sea level, this Ls1 is a 11 second car all day.
That challenger still beat you at end
And not even sure its a hellcat considering a 392 would do it ive owned both
It was a hellcat and it did not beat me at the end. A stock 392? You are saying with with similar power but 900 lbs heavier its going to win? If you have owned both you will see its all the badges, wheels, hood are all hellcat. Even the license plate said "PUSYCAT". Also I did a freeze frame with the time slip.. Not sure what else you need to prove it says winner on my side.
@@theokayestguy9167 ws6 made 350hp at best
The 392 makes 490hp
Youre right very similar
Ravis Maximus if you read the description or watched the video you would see the WS6 has H/C. It is about 435 rwhp. The 392 with 485 crank is close to the 430-440 rwhp. Again 900 lbs heavier.
@@theokayestguy9167 I think some of these commenters miss the point of your car being modified?
Its LS1 right? Memory serves I think those are 346 cubic inches right?
Wait! No helmets? Where the F are you racing?
You know I didn't even think about that until now.. It was a car cruise to a track and back. It was no prep (sketchy) and back. Every time I went there for race events helmets were required (as they should be).
Cap and I own both a hellcat and turbo ws6
You should actually show your times.. if you’re not breaking 10 seconds.. you ain’t fast. My WS-6 is low 9s. I think that Hellcat just put in DRIVE and hit it to have fun.
Did you watch the video? I put up the time slip on it. This is a 1/8 mile track and it wasn't prepped well due to it being a cruise to the strip and back. We both struggled with traction. I am not saying my car is fast, just that I beat a hellcat. I guess I missed your video of you running low 9s in the 1/4.
didnt beat a hellcat with an et of 14:42 @ 85mph lmao they do 10:90-11:00 stock @ 120-130mph
Austin Kerzisnik this was an 1/8th mile not a 1/4 and we both spun.. I beat him in the 1/8th where we race. The thing is I am at high elevation so that is why we both have “slower” times.
uh oh someones jealous lmao.
he is right he beat it but in the long run hellcat would win but still trans am ws6 I fucks with love them car sick car man
Tito Flores If we would have gone 20 more feet he would have won! 😂 My car is running better now so maybe I can get another run against a hellcat! Thanks for watching!
10-4 man I like trans am
Modded car vas stock dont count ! My potna cammed full bolt on ss camaro barely beats my zl1 and he's quick to talk ish ! I'm like dummy u suppose to win you're modded !
Jdizzle bizzle to each their own! I love the style of the Trans Am. Thanks for watching!
@@theokayestguy9167 me 2 they're the ish !
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Sounds like someone has a bad lifter..
This guy..
I noticed that sound too and I'm wondering if it really was a bad lifter. My ls1 is making the same noise.
They all make that sound, it's piston slap LS1