I've always liked the theory that Crowley was Raphael. Raphael is the only one of the big 3 archangels (Uriel always came a distant 4th) not referenced in the story. When Shax says the miracle could have only been performed by the most powerful of archangels Crowley says "How do you know I didn't do it?"
Very interesting video. I think that the only question i may answer is that the miracles azi and crowley perform are strong because of their bond and maybe because crowley still has grace inside him.
Ι just remember in epis2 when shax told Crowley about the miracle (hiding campriel) that it was pourful and Crowley said to her: how you know I didn't do it?)that means that he was very pourful Angel and now pourful demon maybe a prince of hell?
Now, with the new director being (almost) announced, I don't think the 90-minutes-limit is set in stone. Could turn out that the director as well as actors/producers/TP estate/whoever finds that THIS must be wrapped up, THAT need to be included, THUS need to be elaborated thoroughly, who knows, maybe it'll be blown up to 120, 180 minutes or even two or three episodes...let's manifest!!!
@@BlackOfJuly Unfortunately I fear that the 90-minute-limit is already set, because of the movie format the BBC prefers, as they can easily integrate those kind of features in their program. Also the script will have this length. There’s probably no one who would like things to be different more than me. But that’s reality.
Here are some of my answers: Revisiting 1941 would certainly be fun; I'd love to see why Aziraphale had to do the apology dance! I do hope Nina and Maggie end up together, but it's not going to make or break the finale for me. It would be nice to see some of the s1 couples happy and fulfilled, too, like Newt and Anathema or even Leslie the delivery driver and Maude. I'd love to know Crowley's backstory, but since it's only 90 minutes, I'm more interested in seeing what their happy life together is like in the end.
@@letolethe3344 Thank you. I also think, that their relationship is the most important thing for everyone and all the other parts are nice to have. Let’s see.
I would like to know about some of the subplots more than others. Unless they're important, for example, I'm not bothered about the Maggie/Nina storyline. But Aziraphale and Crowley after the whole second coming reveal is a must. It would be nice if they gave us the details of Crowley's history, including the husband's history regarding the apology dance etc. And I think the heaven and hell questions probably need to be addressed within the second y thing.
I think that there will be a time jump in real time like before. So Nina and Maggie might be together. And Shax Duke of Hell etc. Those things could be easily established. Agree they won't have time for a lot of exposition. I think it will be plot heavy with the second coming plot. I think the miracle was so powerful because of the power of love.
Since NG seems to like twists in GO endings (body swap in s1; final 15 of s2), an the finale will probably use his plotting if not his writing, I have a theory that the Metatron actually ends up being a good guy, and the way he's characterized as a villain in s2 was to throw off viewers. Maybe we find out that separating A & C somehow protected them from a plot the Metatron learned about. I think it would intriguing.
@@letolethe3344 Oh, a very clever twist. The Metatron as guardian angel and protector of love. A thoroughly charming idea. But why shouldn't they use Neil's scripts? Someone has to do it better first. But of course there will be another name.
@ Of course I know all these facts. But they will still use Neil’s scripts as he’s only removed from the further production. I’m sure you don’t want that the original planned story will be modified, right?
@@BirgitPa Since I don't know what the original planned story was, whether the finale deviates from it or not isn't a criteria for me as to whether I'll like it. As long as it's a well-made film with excellent acting and good music, an unhurried, uncontrived-feeling script and plot that stays true to the characters, resolves the Second Coming in a way that feels complete and mends their relationship happily, I will like it.
@ I think most people (myself included) will care about which story will make into the movie. I mean, the individual episodes build on each other and the story was developed many years ago. That's what I want to see and not some author's fantasy. And I'm sure we'll find out one way or another if there are fundamental changes.
Woo-hoo! First! Ok, so apart from stopping the Second Coming and admitting their love for each other I hope to see a part 3 of 1941 where they dance to "A Nightingale Sang" and kiss. I don't care what Angel Crowley's name was, but it would be good to know his former rank. Definitely Nina and Maggie together would be nice also Furshax would be fun! I would like to know why Crowley fell, was it just for asking questions? My HC is that God has been imprisoned by the Metabastard and it was him who caused the Angels to fall and also it's him who wants to end everything. Why are A and C so powerful together? Because they are in love! Beez and Jimbriel are the only others to have that power. The four of them with Adam will bring down Heaven and Hell with their combined power. That's what I am hoping for in the "rescued 90" ❤❤
I don't buy the sack-Neil-Gaman = only one episode for S3 schtick. They could have given us ghe whole S3 but they didn't want to. This is just Amazon moving on early again. They had a sex pest on The Expanse too. They closed the series early and wrote him out. The accountants make the decisions.
I hope they bring peace between heaven and hell, so humans aren't "messed about" (as Adam Young put it) by angels and demons and can make influence-free decisions and so angels and demons can be free to associate with any kind of beings they want and can just enjoy their existences without worrying about war. As for where souls would go after death, perhaps heaven and hell would become a joint venture and human souls could just exist in peace.
Looking back on S1, the two times he offers forgiveness to Crowley, he’s concerned for his safety at the bandstand, but on the street, it seems like it’s because Crowley doesn’t believe in him. I think there’s a few possible reasons for the post kiss I forgive you. 1 is the same, because he doesn’t believe in Aziraphale. 2 because he’s abandoning Aziraphale. 3 because Crowley kinda stole their first kiss. The possibility of wanting to kiss someone for millennia. Imagining that if/when they ever kiss it would be romantic and the start of a new era of their relationship. The beginning of them being together. And yet when it does finally happen it’s a goodbye. It’s forced and sad and anything but a romantic beginning. But Aziraphale said in the beginning of S2 that forgiveness was one of his favourite things. It’s forgiveness for that but in a bit of a fuck you way. It’s also an admission of love I think from Aziraphale in one way. But with a bite. With bitterness. It’s a how dare you finally let me know when you’re leaving me. Maybe. Or. It’s an obfuscation and part of an act.
@@samaelvallejo9829 Hay muchas teorías al respecto. Es muy probable que Aziraphale se viera desbordado por la situación y, por tanto, quisiera confiar en lo probado. El perdón le resulta más fácil que asumir sus propios sentimientos. También hay que tener en cuenta la situación.
@@panedorhyfedd Wonderful explanation, thank you. I’m not sure if Aziraphale really was waiting for a romantic kiss between them as a start to their relationship. Sometimes he seems to me as if he’s not totally aware of his feelings for Crowley. Hopefully we’ll find out about all this sometime.
@@panedorhyfedd sí, se que la mayoría teoriza más que nada en que le dijo te perdono por no querer ir con él al cielo, pero no lo se, aún eso no me convence mucho
Let's say there is a time jump of an Earthly year. Shax might be established as Prince of Hell, and Nina/Maggie may/may not be in a relationship. No time really needs to be wasted on those lines. I would love a 3rd part of the 1941 time period. Did Az do the dance because he put himself in so many larger than average stupid situations that caused Crowley angst, or was it something even more personal to their relationship? There has been so many what-if scenarios thrown around the fandom about them taking the next step in some way (confession or physical) after they return to the book shop. Did Aziraphale overstep?
@netherfield2000 There are many fan fiction stories around Good Omens. Most of it isn't even speculation, but pure fantasy and a lot of wishful thinking. I've never read these stories, although they are certainly good. But they would only distract me from the existing story. And I think there's a good chance you'll be disappointed later if the actual plot differs from the fantasy. And it definitely will. I hope the production team can incorporate as many side stories as possible without the 90 minutes being too crammed. Personally, I'm more interested in the trips into the past than Maggie/Nina or what role Shax will play in the future. I would love to see Aziraphale dancing or find out who Crowley really was.
@@blackletter2591 Yes, the Metatron said this to Gabriel, but Gabriel wasn’t meant with “the prince of Heaven“. The Metatron refers to an incident in the past when he said that. Please rewatch S2E6 then you will understand easily.
I've always liked the theory that Crowley was Raphael. Raphael is the only one of the big 3 archangels (Uriel always came a distant 4th) not referenced in the story. When Shax says the miracle could have only been performed by the most powerful of archangels Crowley says "How do you know I didn't do it?"
@@tobykai6 Oh yes, Crowley's answer is so wonderfully ambiguous. Maybe he means what he says, maybe he just wants to provoke.
Also the “that arch traitor Crowley”
@ Oh yes. Sounds like a coincidence by Shax, but has surely a deeper meaning.
Very interesting video. I think that the only question i may answer is that the miracles azi and crowley perform are strong because of their bond and maybe because crowley still has grace inside him.
@@klairikrali7025 Thank you❣️ Yes maybe it’s the combination of different forces.
Ι just remember in epis2 when shax told Crowley about the miracle (hiding campriel) that it was pourful and Crowley said to her: how you know I didn't do it?)that means that he was very pourful Angel and now pourful demon maybe a prince of hell?
@@klairikrali7025 That is possible. But it could also be that Crowley simply wanted to provoke Shax (with the truth).
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Yes maybe.
Now, with the new director being (almost) announced, I don't think the 90-minutes-limit is set in stone. Could turn out that the director as well as actors/producers/TP estate/whoever finds that THIS must be wrapped up, THAT need to be included, THUS need to be elaborated thoroughly, who knows, maybe it'll be blown up to 120, 180 minutes or even two or three episodes...let's manifest!!!
@@BlackOfJuly Unfortunately I fear that the 90-minute-limit is already set, because of the movie format the BBC prefers, as they can easily integrate those kind of features in their program. Also the script will have this length. There’s probably no one who would like things to be different more than me. But that’s reality.
Here are some of my answers: Revisiting 1941 would certainly be fun; I'd love to see why Aziraphale had to do the apology dance! I do hope Nina and Maggie end up together, but it's not going to make or break the finale for me. It would be nice to see some of the s1 couples happy and fulfilled, too, like Newt and Anathema or even Leslie the delivery driver and Maude. I'd love to know Crowley's backstory, but since it's only 90 minutes, I'm more interested in seeing what their happy life together is like in the end.
@@letolethe3344 Thank you. I also think, that their relationship is the most important thing for everyone and all the other parts are nice to have. Let’s see.
I would like to know about some of the subplots more than others. Unless they're important, for example, I'm not bothered about the Maggie/Nina storyline. But Aziraphale and Crowley after the whole second coming reveal is a must. It would be nice if they gave us the details of Crowley's history, including the husband's history regarding the apology dance etc. And I think the heaven and hell questions probably need to be addressed within the second y thing.
@@victoriar4637 Thank you. I see it quite similar. That could be exciting 90 minutes.
I think that there will be a time jump in real time like before. So Nina and Maggie might be together. And Shax Duke of Hell etc. Those things could be easily established. Agree they won't have time for a lot of exposition. I think it will be plot heavy with the second coming plot.
I think the miracle was so powerful because of the power of love.
@@ericamacs3875 Thank you, could have. “The power of love“ is a lovely explanation for their powerful half a miracle❣️
Since NG seems to like twists in GO endings (body swap in s1; final 15 of s2), an the finale will probably use his plotting if not his writing, I have a theory that the Metatron actually ends up being a good guy, and the way he's characterized as a villain in s2 was to throw off viewers. Maybe we find out that separating A & C somehow protected them from a plot the Metatron learned about. I think it would intriguing.
@@letolethe3344 Oh, a very clever twist. The Metatron as guardian angel and protector of love. A thoroughly charming idea. But why shouldn't they use Neil's scripts? Someone has to do it better first. But of course there will be another name.
@@BirgitPa Gaiman's been removed from the project, for the same reason we're only getting a 1.5 hour final film instead of a series.
@ Of course I know all these facts. But they will still use Neil’s scripts as he’s only removed from the further production. I’m sure you don’t want that the original planned story will be modified, right?
@@BirgitPa Since I don't know what the original planned story was, whether the finale deviates from it or not isn't a criteria for me as to whether I'll like it. As long as it's a well-made film with excellent acting and good music, an unhurried, uncontrived-feeling script and plot that stays true to the characters, resolves the Second Coming in a way that feels complete and mends their relationship happily, I will like it.
@ I think most people (myself included) will care about which story will make into the movie. I mean, the individual episodes build on each other and the story was developed many years ago. That's what I want to see and not some author's fantasy. And I'm sure we'll find out one way or another if there are fundamental changes.
Woo-hoo! First!
Ok, so apart from stopping the Second Coming and admitting their love for each other I hope to see a part 3 of 1941 where they dance to "A Nightingale Sang" and kiss.
I don't care what Angel Crowley's name was, but it would be good to know his former rank.
Definitely Nina and Maggie together would be nice also Furshax would be fun!
I would like to know why Crowley fell, was it just for asking questions?
My HC is that God has been imprisoned by the Metabastard and it was him who caused the Angels to fall and also it's him who wants to end everything.
Why are A and C so powerful together? Because they are in love! Beez and Jimbriel are the only others to have that power. The four of them with Adam will bring down Heaven and Hell with their combined power.
That's what I am hoping for in the "rescued 90" ❤❤
@@clarestubbs9303 wahoo, wonderful summary, I love it❣️ Especially the 1941 story. Well, let’s see which of you theories will come to live.
I don't buy the sack-Neil-Gaman = only one episode for S3 schtick. They could have given us ghe whole S3 but they didn't want to. This is just Amazon moving on early again. They had a sex pest on The Expanse too. They closed the series early and wrote him out. The accountants make the decisions.
@@blackletter2591 Yes, I agree with that. Sounds like an excuse to me too. Maybe the bottom line is that the film is cheaper than the series.
I hope they bring peace between heaven and hell, so humans aren't "messed about" (as Adam Young put it) by angels and demons and can make influence-free decisions and so angels and demons can be free to associate with any kind of beings they want and can just enjoy their existences without worrying about war. As for where souls would go after death, perhaps heaven and hell would become a joint venture and human souls could just exist in peace.
@@letolethe3344 I agree, that would be wonderful. Just as the ghost of Christmas will take over.
Yo quiero saber por qué le dijo "te perdono", eso sí dolió más que un rechazo
Looking back on S1, the two times he offers forgiveness to Crowley, he’s concerned for his safety at the bandstand, but on the street, it seems like it’s because Crowley doesn’t believe in him. I think there’s a few possible reasons for the post kiss I forgive you. 1 is the same, because he doesn’t believe in Aziraphale. 2 because he’s abandoning Aziraphale. 3 because Crowley kinda stole their first kiss. The possibility of wanting to kiss someone for millennia. Imagining that if/when they ever kiss it would be romantic and the start of a new era of their relationship. The beginning of them being together. And yet when it does finally happen it’s a goodbye. It’s forced and sad and anything but a romantic beginning. But Aziraphale said in the beginning of S2 that forgiveness was one of his favourite things. It’s forgiveness for that but in a bit of a fuck you way. It’s also an admission of love I think from Aziraphale in one way. But with a bite. With bitterness. It’s a how dare you finally let me know when you’re leaving me.
Maybe.
Or. It’s an obfuscation and part of an act.
@@samaelvallejo9829 Hay muchas teorías al respecto. Es muy probable que Aziraphale se viera desbordado por la situación y, por tanto, quisiera confiar en lo probado. El perdón le resulta más fácil que asumir sus propios sentimientos. También hay que tener en cuenta la situación.
@@panedorhyfedd Wonderful explanation, thank you. I’m not sure if Aziraphale really was waiting for a romantic kiss between them as a start to their relationship. Sometimes he seems to me as if he’s not totally aware of his feelings for Crowley. Hopefully we’ll find out about all this sometime.
@@panedorhyfedd sí, se que la mayoría teoriza más que nada en que le dijo te perdono por no querer ir con él al cielo, pero no lo se, aún eso no me convence mucho
Let's say there is a time jump of an Earthly year. Shax might be established as Prince of Hell, and Nina/Maggie may/may not be in a relationship. No time really needs to be wasted on those lines. I would love a 3rd part of the 1941 time period. Did Az do the dance because he put himself in so many larger than average stupid situations that caused Crowley angst, or was it something even more personal to their relationship? There has been so many what-if scenarios thrown around the fandom about them taking the next step in some way (confession or physical) after they return to the book shop. Did Aziraphale overstep?
@netherfield2000 There are many fan fiction stories around Good Omens. Most of it isn't even speculation, but pure fantasy and a lot of wishful thinking. I've never read these stories, although they are certainly good. But they would only distract me from the existing story. And I think there's a good chance you'll be disappointed later if the actual plot differs from the fantasy. And it definitely will. I hope the production team can incorporate as many side stories as possible without the 90 minutes being too crammed. Personally, I'm more interested in the trips into the past than Maggie/Nina or what role Shax will play in the future. I would love to see Aziraphale dancing or find out who Crowley really was.
Crowley wasn't the prince of heaven who was forced out; it was Gabriel.
@@blackletter2591 Yes, the Metatron said this to Gabriel, but Gabriel wasn’t meant with “the prince of Heaven“. The Metatron refers to an incident in the past when he said that. Please rewatch S2E6 then you will understand easily.
ThePrince of heaven that the Metatronrefers to is Lucifer.
@ Yes, that’s what I mentioned in the video too, because many people think that. But is there an evidence? It’s also possible that Crowley was meant.
I want to see that all of this is part of the great plan, but we still don't know what the ineffable plan is
@@sophitsa79 That’s true.
Hi , I will read the questions and be rigth back