The scene where barbie calls the older lady beautiful is where she sees beauty in aging and begins to desire that instead of staying the same stereotypical Barbie.
Yes, also Dylan wanted there to be more conversation with Barbie wanting to be human. But I think they did that wonderfully because women have a lot of quiet moments, unheard or ignored and it's really wonderful because the introspection in those moments is so real
or the way ken was flying in the air all crazy after he hit the plastic beach wave before landing right on his behind. that was EXACTLY how kids played with dolls.
Still there are some inconsistencies there, like it’s said right in the beginning that the Barbies believed they solved all women’s social problems in the real world but then later in the movie when Ken brings “the patriarchy” to Barbieland they say the Barbies were vulnerable to patriarch ideas because they were never exposed to them, but how could the Barbies think thanks to them things were better for women in the real world without being aware that things were worse for them in the past hence the patriarchy?
Here's the thing dylan, women don't need words most of the time to understand what the other is feeling. There was so much that transpired in those silent moments, it's insane
That’s not something that only applies to women, actually that’s a rule of cinema that Dylan himself talked about many times: show, don’t tell. I guess what he meant was that those moments felt hollow to the point we could just see it however we wanted to instead of the movie actually wanting to say or show something
@@lauracerqueiramachado8979 But the thing is this movie is made for the girls and most women understood everything that was communicated in those silent moments, those silent moments told everything they needed to for the target audience.
Men can tell what eachother are feeling without words aswell but for that scene i dunno at first i was like is that old lady like tryna poison/sedate barbie with the tea so she cant escape like the old lady works for mattel would make sense but once i realised it was ruth handler the scene makes more sense second time round but yeah just felt a bit odd on first watch but i can see what they were going for.
But it was only 1 scene that lasted 2 minutes…I’m sorry but that doesn’t feel like much to completely change your entire identity. If the theme is “It’s better to be real and imperfect than to be a doll” then that should be explored and explained during the entire movie, not in one scene only.
@@confusedpozole406 it was a short scene. but it set the rest of the movie. after barbie had that emotional realisation her perspective of the real world and beauty as she knew it completely changed.
the scene with ruth was basically the same thing but longer. this time she was faced with the person who made her and it solidified this "its better to be imperfect" idea
Yesss i'm obsessed with playing through generations normally and cas. About barbie too, we have everyday barbies irl and people buy them. Also, Barbies didn't use to have roles till recent years. I never had dolls with certain roles, although, i was a MH kid
The sims isn't popular because it's an everyday life, it's popular because it isn't. You get to play around the rules of the game, act like a psychopathic god, or fuck everyone in sight
@@FurTheWorkers So people don't want ordinary barbies, they want blank slate barbies, projecting whatever thing they want into them, which is a very different concept.
Lmao that's one side of it but there's also people who enjoy playing just normal life with the sims. One partner, kids a house, going through every stage of life. @@franciscasilva8406
The bonfire scene bothered the Ken's because each Ken was made for a specific Barbie and they are ok with other Barbies but want their own Barbies more.
I also think that they want the Barbie they have eyes for to want them aswell, they don’t just want possession of the Barbie’s because the Barbie’s have brushed them off and rejected them so many times they want the Barbie’s to be the ones wanting them instead
dude i was like "thats literally the point" cuz like there is no way to put into words what its like to be a woman. you just have to feel it and see it, and thats what the montage and the silence was for
the irony in dylan not liking how on the nose the “beach off” joke is is that that is quite literally all of the jokes he makes, and that we enjoy, in his commentaries
Also idk about you guys but I and everyone I know who watched the movie understood the joke differently. We all thought it was a reference to j**king off, which would be way more funnier.
I'm turning 27 soon and the amount of times I've heard Alpha Male podcasters talk about how women over 25 are "past their prime" and how younger people think of me as old is enough to make me think differently about myself. I know being in my 20s means I'm still relatively young in the grand scheme of things but when men are treated as desirable when they turn 30,40,50, etc. while a woman that's older than 23 is treated like she's no longer valuable to society, it makes sense why men wouldn't really react to the bench scene the same as women. Barbie is not only admiring an elderly woman for aging (a foreign concept to her) but also calls her beautiful -- something that a lot of people would never do. The confidence in that old woman made me feel more reassured. It made me look forward to the idea of growing old.
I used to work in a specialty that catered to the elderly. So many elder women telling me not to let what men and society expect from me to impact who I am. When we age we lose what is considered valuable to so many, so invest in yourself as for who you are. I'm glad I heard those lessons in my 20's.
I feel like more now than before, women don't care anymore what men think of them. 25 should be your time to put all the ways in which OTHERS see you behind you and start living to only care about what you think of yourself. Men Podcasters are trash, women who judge other women are trash. Become whomever you want to be. And never let he world influence your self worth at any age. Because there are so many people older than you still figuring out everything too, no one ever expires, we just live. ❤
I also see a lot of people esp women on the internet say that in their 30s and 40s they felt more confident, more happy and less lost or frantic than they did in their 20s. And I think that's a nice thing to look forward to :) I think everyone should do what makes them happy when it comes to their bodies but all the face lifts and stuff and like 13 year olds already using anti aging creams and stuff...just makes me feel weird. Idk
Same here - I'm in my 20's and it's so scary at times to hear how "everything will be lost when you're over 27" kinda stuff. But then I try to remember that aging is a privilege and not something bad. Some people don't get to age so I should take it as a blessing.
I agree that Mattel's time could've been cut down substationally, possibly to make room for more of Barbie's exploration of humanity. But the "I'm a son of a mother. I'm the nephew of a woman aunt." Joke had me wheezing. It's so accurate! 😂
I think it also lends to the argument at the end of the movie that it's okay to be average, to be normal. Not everyone has to be a main character to get their time to be acknowledged.
The reason the Kens get jealous when the Barbies switch their interest to another Ken is because each Ken is specifically coupled with a specific Barbie. Ryan (stereotypical Ken) and Margot (stereotypical Barbie) are *literally* created to be together. It is amplified in the statement, "I only exist within the warmth of your gaze," that Ken says before Barbie helps him realize that "Ken is me!" So, if her "gaze" shifts to another Ken then the *coupled* Ken losing his existence...until the lesson allows them to be their own being.
This was my favourite message of the movie, we've heard the whole women empowerment thing over and over again, but what kens experiencing is something almost everyone understands and is so SO important, and we dont often see it from the mans side, so this isnt a topic very often explored and i loved that they did it
@@cloudeia6894except it wasn’t explored and he went back to exactly where he was in the beginning, but the women get to move on? That’s not good messaging
@@ninjanibba4259 Ken learnt the value of himself and being able to exist without a girlfriend and the women realised they had been taking the Kens for granted, which leads to their eventual integration in the upper levels of their society. I think it is good messaging.
I was confused about that too. It seemed like the couplings came out of the blue because the kens were acting interested in everybody before that beach scene by the fire.
I loved the silent scenes. It’s a silence I, and I think many other women, know well. The comfortability and safety and understanding and belonging of just being with another woman, especially an older woman is not loud, it’s quiet and peaceful. Words just aren’t needed
Yeah this is how I feel about it too! "In the real world, humans aren't perfect like Barbies are, and that's okay and even beautiful" was what I got from the movie, to even become human she had to accept herself fully, insecurities and all. I definitely cried at the end lol
But still that decision kind of came out of nowhere, Barbie spent just a few hours in the real world and most of her experiences there were unpleasant for her, what made her choose to stay there for good? Why did she make such a point to get Barbieland back to the way it was if she wasn’t even going to stay there? Why didn’t Ken go as well (he had many more reasons to want to live in the real world than her)?
@@kittensaver same, she had to say goodbye to being a perfect idea and embrace being a whole person, flaws and everything, and i feel like that is something that i could relate to. especially when you go grow up as a woman there are so many ideas of who you should and can be and breakig through those expectstions and molds is such an essential step in growing up but also a never ending process for anyone i guess. also i liked those silent moments, they had a lot of weight and i guess the point that you could also just hear your own thoughts reflected in the silence was nice
@@lauracerqueiramachado8979 for barbie its just embracing reality i guess, she saw how muh beauty and strength the was to the real women in the real world. and ken i think his whole point is that he needs to define hinself in the barbie dominated world and figure out who he is there. yk kinda both barbie and ken chose the "harder" path to go to to define themselves against the odds that are stacked against them
@@lauracerqueiramachado8979 it's about accepting reality real life women are not barbie, real life women live in a patriarchal world that sucks and we just have to deal with it and try to be happy that's the point
Exactly, it would be hard for her to just live in Barbieland after what she had experienced and felt. Her arc was knowing that she didn’t always have to be perfect and being in Barbieland she’d have to be stereotypically perfect
But still that decision kind of came out of nowhere, Barbie spent just a few hours in the real world and most of her experiences there were unpleasant for her, what made her choose to stay there for good? Why did she make such a point to get Barbieland back to the way it was if she wasn’t even going to stay there? Why didn’t Ken go as well (he had many more reasons to want to live in the real world than her)?
@@lauracerqueiramachado8979 she helped get Barbieland back from the Ken’s because they were kinda ruining it, it wasn’t a functioning economy anymore the Kens focused on the wrong things. Barbie made her decision based on her experience in the real world and what Ruth showed her, she found beauty in the real worlds flaws and imperfections
@@ambershoba how were the Kens ruining it? The changes Ken did to Barbieland had more positivity and freedom than how things were before, in the beginning of the movie it felt like a pink cult, but after he changed a few things everyone was happy, you can say that “the Barbies weren’t happy, they were brainwashed” but come on, that makes no sense and it’s just a petty excuse to say they just aren’t against the system because they are victims of it and they don’t know what they want (pretty much what feminists say about woman that are happy with the way they live), and I think it made sense that the Barbies would enjoy it because well it was something new and different and they had much less to worry about. And how wasn’t it a functioning economy anymore? The way things were before only the Barbies worked, with Ken’s changes the Barbies and the Kens were working
I am SHOCKED that Dylan didn't even touch on the part where Allan beat up all the construction workers when the mom and daughter were trying to escape Barbieland. That was one of my favorite parts of the movie, and I figured Dylan would have also really enjoyed it since there was violence involved lol.
And when Allan references his own slogan and says, "I'm Ken's best friend. All his clothes fit me." I didn't notice that until my third viewing of the movie 😂
The reason why the kens would turn against each other during the song partner swap is because they would feel inferior to one another, it doesn't matter that another barbie likes them because the one they liked left for another ken. If that makes sense
You nailed it. In the movie Rounders, the protagonist/narrator says something like "Few players can recall the big pots they have won, but every player remembers with remarkable accuracy the outstanding tough beats of his career." I think this is true for competitive types in general, not just poker players - a loss hurts more than a win feels good, probably because you expect to win, but a loss comes off as an affront to your very being or something. Same deal in that sequence, the loss of a Barbie to another Ken feels worse than the gain of a Barbie from another Ken.
"Even if you did wanna make the argument that men are poorly represented in Barbie, women also could make the argument that they're poorly represented or underrepresented in other films." THIS Dylan thank you!!!
How are they poorly represented / underrepresented in other films? I’m genuinely curious because it seems now that men are the ones being badly represented, just from what I know, as a marvel fan, suddenly women are dominating all these shows and every movie is about a girlboss. I’m not trying to argue here I just have not seen women underrepresented in like years
@Aliu21. Theres many different arguments for underrepresentation or misrepresentation of women in movies. I admittedly have not watched many of the recent Marvel things, but ill point out, you notice it. You notice women suddenly being in lead roles and you see it as men being misrepresented. And i doubt you noticed it or cared when the men were in the lead roles, or saw nothing wrong with it. The goal is for men and women to be equally represented, but we're going through a phase of women being extra represented to make up for the past. In the case of Marvel, things like super heros, video games, etc. have always been marketed solely for boys and men, and now theyre moving toward including girls and women, and part of that shift includes making up for the past. I understand the argument of Marvel kinda overdoing it recently, but again it wasnt an issue when all the movies were about men.
@@annieswirl My point of "you notice it now but not when everything was about men" is just something to consider - not a jab or accusation. Its not bad that you notice it, but why do you? Maybe because the representation was lacking before. In the case of Marvel specifically though, I havent been keeping up but i have heard theyve been overdoing it.
100% I think that was definitely on purpose. You can tell they start going lighter with the make up and filters and they start showing more of margot the person and not margot the barbie
I think it's most obvious in her hair. It's like her perfect blowout was slowly deflating and that doesn't happen for the dolls. Unless you brush them out, the hair stays big.
For sure. You start to see more of fine lines and skin texture. Then at the end, you can tell that her foundation is slightly mismatched. I loved that detail
Fun fact - they had two versions of her costume too. Once she started looking more human, her dress also lost some of the colourfulness and got more dull.
My thought with the whole "play you a song by the bonfire with 10 other couples around and then Barbie leaves me for another Ken" is that each Ken is emotionally attached to one Barbie, so even if you get a new Barbie she's not as good since you don't care for her in the same way and therefore you're still offended by Barbie going to another Ken
There's also the scene after Ken (Ryan) and Barbie (Margot) talk where one Ken (Ncuti Gatwa) mentions something about missing *his* friend Barbie (Emma Mackey).
I thing that's right but also not true? Like, Ken (Simu Liu) was constantly fighting against Ken (Ryan) for Barbie's (Margot) attention. So did Stereotypical Barbie had two Kens?
I think you’re so right, but less that each Barbie has one assigned Ken and moreso that the one they were trying to woo was ignoring them, so even if they did get a replacement Barbie, they’re distracted by the hurt of being ignored by the Barbie they originally had/the jealousy of themselves being replaced by another Ken.
I think the ending didn't hit you as emotionally because it was centered more around girlhood, which is something you as a man can't really understand. The clips showed various women in places and gatherings that mirror a lot of our own experiences and made it feel like we were almost watching ourselves. As little girls who played with Barbies, we grew up idolizing her and wanting to be "perfect" in every way--just like her. So to see Barbie here, watch those memories that Ruth showed her of OUR experiences just being girls, and her want to be like US, felt really validating in a way. Ruth told her to feel as she watched the memories, and thats exactly what Barbie did. The clips of women experiencing things through all stages of life, with all their simplicity, perfectly captured the essence of girlhood. Seeing Barbie be brought to tears by something we often consider ordinary and choose that over Barbie Land, not only wrecked me (and some other women I know) emotionally, but was incredibly beautiful.
I don’t think it’s that fair to say “he didn’t get it because he’s a man” because it’s basically underminding the opinion of the male viewers, also I’m a 21 y/o gal and it didn’t hit me emotionally (mostly because I couldn’t take this movie seriously)
@@lauracerqueiramachado8979they can have an opinion on it but it’s just common sense that they won’t connect to it the same way women will because it’s made to represent womanhood, not manhood
@@lauracerqueiramachado8979it’s not undermining male viewers just objectively it was targeted for women and he wouldn’t understand the experience of women which is why he wouldn’t get it like it’s not that hard to understand
I really liked the bench interaction, Barbie has never seen someone that’s old, she’s never seen someone with “imperfections” but she sees this woman and she thinks she’s beautiful. It ties into the whole finding the beauty in her fears of imperfection and a contrast to how scared she was of change in the beginning
What I understood about the bench scene was that that woman, the old woman knew she was beautiful because she played with barbies and took that -- the message of being perfect no matter what -- to the heart. While the other generation (the teen's) had another view on the barbie message
@@pyjamallama2088 No she isn't, she's called Ann Roth who is a legendary Costume Designer in Hollywood. Greta needed someone who was older to play the part and decided to go for one of her older friends instead of going with Barbara Handler.
Do you mean the joke where the narrator said about not casting Margot Robbie to prove a point about being good looking? That was my favourite joke in the movie
Something about two women of different ages saying “your beautiful.” And “I know” was really touching to me. It was transcendent beauty that touched on what it’s like to be a women, cutting through how we’re taught to hate ourselves and are pit against each other since childhood.
This. And Barbie saw her future in her. She saw the life of human that has lived. That’s showing age on her face and the fact that she knows she’s beautiful just solidifies that humanity and the human experience is beautiful.
@@Jasmine_U_Bit is indeed rare for people to see the beauty in aging. We try so hard to look young forever, without realizing that it is natural and normal, and all that lives will someday age and die. It's not an ugly thing at all, but there is a big stigma still
What I like too is the shot after when the woman is alone at the bus stop. Even though she seemed so self-assured in the moment, you can see that it did really affect her. It makes you realize no one has probably said those words to her in a long time. A good reminder to do that with loved ones in our lives.
ya same in tht scene what they said hit me so deep cause as women aging is seen as such a horrible thing its a taboo really for a women to age i feel like especially when almost everyone is using fillers and botox to prevent aesthetic aspect of aging i loved that scene of embracing aging which is a normal human thing everyone has to go thru and should not be so looked down upon and her realizing how non perfect thing can be so beautiful if u just embrace it that moment was what made me realize that she has desire for human life.
he misdirected us. and went for the Oppenheimer color scheme. idk if you know "Pitch Meetings" by Ryan George, but he did the same for the pitch meeting of Barbenheimer.
I couldn't contain my laughter when I first saw the opening sequences. The air flips, dance offs, and final fight chaos were all how I played with my dolls and GI Joes and whatever random crap I had. My inner child felt so seen. xD
I saw this with a friend of mine and my partner. There were so many references he didn't get which my friend and I giggled like fiends to, like the cellulite and BBC Pride and Prejudice reference.
Same. I don't really get the critique about it being out of place?? She narrates the beginning and we hear her at the end, her having a line in between wasn't bad or out of que? Idk. It seems like a joke that was made in post, which makes it funnier imaging them watching Margot Robbie go, "I'm not pretty anymore!" and them then going "lets get one more joke about the glaringly obvious." The whole movie is absurd. It's a very much not real DOLL going out into the real world. But the narrator making a joke was out of place??? 😂 idk.
THIS, totally this! BUT I have a feeling that this was lost, in the sense of it being viewed at home. versus being in a movie theater and having that experience. and of course it being a commentary.. so although Dylan's analyzing it and delving deep in it; he's not really viewing it in the same way, a regular person going to the movies would. So I could see how he'd have that opinion, in this surrounding. But yes, I also was very entertained by it and laughed along the entire crowd.
Same, I enjoyed the juxtaposition of the narrator randomly popping in. In my mind it showed us that the movie was self aware and pocked fun at the ‘hypocrisy’ is the messaging.
I'm 61, and the bench scene is one of the most beautiful scenes I've ever seen in a movie. I love it. It made me cry. People don't see the beauty in older women. We just get dismissed.
yes and that was exactly the point being made. since the stigma related to women aging was never a concept in barbieland; margot's barbie was never taught to view aging negatively and so all she saw was a woman, not an old woman, just a beautiful one.
one of my favorite things about this movie is that Barbie sees the beauty in all women, regardless of age, weight, skin color, hair type, none of that matters to her. she’s “stereotypical barbie” outwardly, but inwardly she’s so much more accepting and compassionate than people believe someone that looks like her could be.
@@HarleenKaur-dd5hzthat’s such a great insight, i knew what the scene was communicating but couldn’t figure out how to put it into words. this is such a wonderful way to explain it!
I actually loved the narrator break, cuz hearing the entire theatre laugh out loud at tht joke was hilarious and lowkey uniting, saw this in a theatre packed with mostly women and some men, all of us wearing pink. It was a blast to be so excited and pumped for a movie, kind of reminded me of how my parents said going to the theatres was a party in itself, it was such a cool moment to be a part of
This is exactly it, I did not know how to namr the emotin after watching Babrbie in cinema, but this is it. It was celebration and fun time with strangers and it is is a long time when I felt so connected to humanity and people and it felt so good watching this in cinema.
I saw this movie 4 times (I swear not because obsession, just because I had 4 different occasions and groups I saw it with). Every time was so fun because of the energy of the people
@@96grunge I liked the break, I thought it was funny, but I get what he means cuz I had a similar reaction too. It's such a long time between when the narrator comes in, you kinda forget about her. It just feels random. My guess is that there were other narrator moments in the script that got cut
Like so many other people are saying, I was crying in the cinema during both “quiet” scenes. Just watching it felt so realistic and raw. Just the beauty of life without expectations or stereotypes or anything like that and wanting that so badly.
I was crying before I even realized it or understood why. It really touches something that most if not all women experience, to the point that you stop paying conscious attention to it.
I got a slightly different message from Barbie wanting to be human. I feel like this is a metaphor for how many women feel. We always have to be perfect and meet so many expectations, so wanting to become real is like wanting to live as yourself and enjoy life instead of trying to meet all this expectations, or being what society says we should be. It shows that we also feel like toys, when we are objectified, sexualized, when our feelings are dismissed. The song What I was made for translated perfectly how we feel lost when we don’t feel enough while trying to be the perfect woman society expects us to be.
i got the same message from the movie, which is why the online discourse has confused me so much. people online are twisting of the focus onto ken when to understand the commentary about ken, you first have to understand the pressure that barbie is under and how that translates to the struggles of women in the real world. yes, he is 'kenough', but that came from an understanding found by the barbies that you don't have to be anything or meet any of the crazy expectations (especially those imposed on women) to be perfectly human. i'm so glad i found someone else who got the same message
i also feel like it should be said that the feelings of being inadequate and wanting to be human are often experienced together by minorities and people who are separated from the perceived majority (pushing one form of experience while silencing and oppressing others). like ive never felt less human than when i think about how i dont meet certain standards or expectations or that im somehow “wrong”; i very much experience that alienation together.
the ending is not about her chasing something she's missing out on, but about finding a place in the world once you lose the innocence of girlhood. it's growing up and coming to terms with that and finding the beauty within the loss of childhood. so it's not this omg i want to be human, but a "i guess this is where i fit in now" which is quite relatable as a woman
Not saying your interpretation is wrong (I haven’t googled which is the right one) but I feel like this just highlights Dylan’s point about the movie being too vague about its plot. Not even I came to this conclusion and many others didn’t either. I do like that explanation better than some others tho.
I feel like it’s vague because though most women have a lot of the same experiences, the idea of “humanity “ is different for everyone. Like as a black woman, just to be treat like a regular human in the small town I live in, was something I related with, while some of my friends saw something different. Though I can see the want for something specific. But much like the idea that Barbie can be anything, a vague ending can (for the most part) be for anyone.
@@KingAmasawa I feel like this idea gets shot down with the “woman have it hard” speech 3/4 of the way through. They list a bunch of super specific things that are supposed to apply to every woman and I can’t think of a single person who any of that would apply to because of their gender in real life.
@@shadamyandsonamylover Clearly the point of that scene went over your head. Of course you've never met a person it would apply to because that person doesn't exist. The mom is describing the expectations that are placed on women from an early age, to be this perfect, self-aware, gracious woman that does no wrong. Even if you don't have those same expectations for women, those expectations do exist and we do feel them. Maybe not exactly in the way described, but the essence of what was said is universal.
Well the thing is pregnant Midge had a removable belly with a baby inside, you could like take it out and make her hold her baby, and some people say she wasn’t discontinued because she was weird or because children didn’t like her, it happened because the parents were pissed by the possibility that she would give their kids an idea of where babies really come from
Lol ironically doctors will reach to remove babies for c-sections so it’s not far off from reality. And kids eventually learn how babies are conceived, it’s the parents who make it weird like saying that babies are delivered by storks 😅
The part where the narrator says, "Note to the film makers Margot Robbie is the..." was my favorite line in the whole movie it was incredibly funny and is so relatable.
It defeats the point the movie was trying to make tho. Like "oh if u wanna portray insecurity then this extremely beautiful actress is probably not the one because she's too beautiful to worry about her looks" it's just unnecessary
@@swagiliciousmf This is even more true when you consider the huge sums of money that successful women in the entertainment industry pay to appear ageless, or to age in the right ways, or even to obtain more palatable features as they age (since some features aren't as palatable on mature women).
When you said the quiet moments should have "delved into the beauty and fragility of life that Barbie never experienced" that, to me is exactly what happens in those moments and the ones that greatly moved me. The bench scene with the elderly woman, Barbie is seeing a physical appearance she's never seen before. There's no elderly, no wrinkles in Barbieland, yet she finds beauty in this woman. And she turns back to look at her, here where I think starts her desire to be human. And the woman saying "I know it" instead of "thanks" is perfect because in Barbieland, none of the Barbies every say "thank you" or diminish any compliment because they know their worth and beauty. I also think the scene with Barbie and Ruth has so much importance and nuanced meaning about being a woman, and being human with Barbie saying "I normally don't look like this" and Ruth telling her she looks perfect.
I love you and I hope both sides of your pillow are cool. Oh mygod did the scenes of just appreciating age and emotions make me weep openly in the cinema
Yes! These emotional moments hit me so hard and even just whilst they were being shown in the background while Dylan was talking I started crying all over again thinking about it all
i love how dylan keeps stopping to explain the plot as if we haven't all seen this movie already and have been waiting for him to catch up. bless him x
I saw it in July or august and since then I've been waiting for him to AT LEAST mention the movie but I just assumed it wasn't on his radar, then the ooga booga video came out and my questions were answered
I wasnt planning on ever watching the movie but i usually watch whatever commentary he posts and sometimes if there's a movie idk about or one im not sure I'll want to watch, I'll watch and see what other ppl say about it and if seeing some scenes makes me want to watch it then i will.
That conference part was actually pretty smart according to me. Something that could be done in 30 seconds but takes 3 minutes and the whispering to reach the top actually felt like an indirect commentary of how the corporate world works. Always following the heirarchy and wasting a lot of time.
Reminded me of a scene from Monty Python & The Life of Brian when The People's Front of Judea finally realize they have spent too much time on words instead of actions, and wasted too much time talking about what they're going to do rather than doing it... which, of course, "calls for immediate discussion."
I feel like the daughters arc was kind of rounded in a more subtle way. The more obvious is how she becomes supportive of barbie through the film and heals her relationship with her mum slightly but I’d also like to talk about the costumes. As girls we are often made to feel as if liking pink is embarrassing or being feminine is cringey etc, ESPECIALLY when you’re a teenager. So seeing how her outfits change from the first scene where she’s rude to barbie and she’s wearing all black to the final scene where she is wearing a pink top I felt that was a subtle hint at her becoming more in touch with femininity and kind of realising that it is okay to be girly/like girly things along with seeing the positivity in barbie and understanding her importance as well. Though pink does not necessarily equal girly/femininity … that was just how I personally perceived that :)
A lot of people missed this. Men, I get, because they can't really relate too much with the whole "no feminine little girl, you're not supposed to like being feminine. Feminine and pink means dumb and overtly sexual to please men. Where's your solidarity to feminism???" that young girls often(myself very much included) go through. But the women not understanding that arc was like girl, how??? Literally look at her outfits in the beginning to the end. Starts off with her wearing darker colors and then she finishes the movie wearing bright and "feminine," colors. I truly don't know how people missed that.
@@rachel5399 yeah!! I felt it was obvious because when I was younger I went through the whole “ew pink” and “I’m not girly” phase because that’s what I thought I had to be to be cool 🤝 but I think the film does make it quite clear that her perspective changed on femininity after being around barbie and seeing how barbies actually feel. I do wonder how women especially missed it, I do understand men not seeing that though haha
The way she reacts to other people (including her posture) is another nice subtle aspect of this. At first she is incredibly defensive and reacts to others' perceived flaws without consideration. Over the course of the film she learns to be more empathetic and less quick to judge. She begins to realise that women existing differently to her is not a threat to the validity of her choices. They don't have to compete, they can exist side by side.
Pregnant barbie was real. The stomach popped off and you took the baby out. Some parents complained that it promoted teen pregnancy, even though Midge had a husband and toddler that were sold seperately. The doll got discontinued. I'm still bitter about it. I wanted one so bad lol
I had a pregnant barbie, but I'm starting to think it was a knock-off as this was like 2006, and mine was brand new. And also not a brunette if I remember correctly
I had one. My mom bought it for me and my sister when she was pregnant with my brother. I was afraid of touching her belly afterwards because I thought it would fall like Midge’s.
i thought it was obvious. the way the tone changed from the chase scene to the calm, slow scene. Barbie looking like she recognizes her, and an old lady helping her while "not knowing" her without question... was it not obvious? maybe i too... am a professional movie watcher. guess i learned from the GOD of professional movie watchers.
I think a lot of the jokes don't hit in the movie or are random or they're saying "beach" instead of beach, same with the "i thought i might stay over tonight, to do what?" scene are all because the barbies and kens are being played with by children and so it's child language and how children expect adults to be like, I think it's actually a really cool way to show how the dolls and kids are connected
It's a brilliant way to show how culture is passed down and how society is just a thing made up of ideas that can be changed, for better or worse. And how we're all just big kids sometimes.
in the kindest way this can be said, this is the first male reaction to Barbie that didn't just piss me off and give me that hopeless dread feeling yk? I don't expect every man to have the perspective of a woman, but just the capability to consider the other side of the coin is nice. I've always loved your reactions because you have a good balance of poking fun at things as well as trying to take them for what they were meant to be. good to have you back sir :)
Definitely agree because I've seen some horrible reactions from men to this movie but I thought I'd recommend another male commentary that didn't want to make me scream: Reel Rejects. They're great and have become one of my favorite reaction channels over the past few years & I absolutely loved their Barbie reaction. (I don't know if you actually wanted a recommendation but your point definitely struck a cord with me because there's a few Barbie reactions I've watched from men and most of them leave me at least a bit disappointed if not downright horrified)
i was kind of surprised to see how disconnected Dylan felt from the "dual messages" and character roundness at the end because to me it felt very complete. i hadn't taken the time to fully develop this thought about it until someone else mentioned it in another comment, but i think a lot of that is related to, as Dylan mentioned, this movie being "for women" in a lot of ways. like the intention is clearly for everyone to laugh and learn from it, but there are just elements to the storytelling that will hit harder and work better for women because they draw on our experience in the real world and communicate in a way that we communicate with each other. those moments are quiet and eye contact were crystal clear for me, and i honestly hadn't thought that maybe they wouldn't be for men until i watched Dylan comment on them with that perspective of dissatisfaction. also, i think barbie's character arc and journey to both self-acceptance and desire for humanity are much more interconnected than Dylan gave them credit for, or maybe that's another area where the perception is just less clear for some groups, idk. i think her acceptance of herself and her feelings in all their complexity is what drew her to the real world because now that she has this more nuanced and self-reflective perspective it feels like going backwards to just return to the "everyday is perfect" life in barbieland. her eyes have been opened to a whole life of learning, growing, and emotions that she didn't even have any point of reference for before, so her newly accepted self longs for more of that and no longer belongs in the plastic, unevolving world where she once thrived as stereotypical barbie.
I understood the ending from a metaphoric point of view. Barbie represents a girl going through puberty: you may become sad about the realities of growing up but once you lose that innocence you can’t go back. In Margot’s sad smile when she is celebrating with the other Barbies she conveys that feeling. Greta Gerwig took inspiration from Reviving Ophelia, which describes how girls become insecure when they hit puberty because of the patriarchy.
She went through nothing, you’re reaching A character is supposed to reflect on things that challenge them throughout the film, by the end they’re supposed to be completely different….she’s exactly the same and wants change for….reasons This isn’t deep, it’s not even surfaced
That’s beautiful, but still that decision kind of came out of nowhere, Barbie spent just a few hours in the real world and most of her experiences there were unpleasant for her, what made her choose to stay there for good? Why did she make such a point to get Barbieland back to the way it was if she wasn’t even going to stay there? Why didn’t Ken go as well (he had many more reasons to want to live in the real world than her)?
I thought the change was in that in the beginning of the movie Barbie thinks that the real world is a better place because of her, but when she realizes that she didn’t have the effect she thought in the real world then she chooses to be a human who can create her own impact in the world rather than being a representation of an idea that didn’t reach the potential she thought she had in the beginning.
Dylan, your theory about a young girl losing her mom so the doll comes into the real world and becomes a mother figure already exists! It’s called Life Size starring Tyra Banks as the “Barbie” doll and Lindsey Lohan playing the girl!
I think the ending made sense because Barbie's journey is more about self-awareness than self-acceptance (she's the definition of female "perfection" so she isn't battling the self-doubt other women are made to feel) . Her eyes get opened to the complexity, nuance, and often depressing reality of humanity. Once she becomes truly aware, she can't go back to living in the safe illusion of Barbieland. Thanks for another fun commentary Dylan!!
Also, she chooses reality over perfection. She will keep her cellulite and thoughts about death, get older, further and further away from the ideal, the fantasy. The two conflicts are two sides of the same coin.
20:52 I feel it’s important to note the contrasting dynamics when the Barbies and the Kens are in power. When the Barbies rule Barbie Land, the Kens are simply not the focus; they are benevolently ignored but not mistreated or oppressed. The Barbies do not abuse the Kens or force them into servitude; they just aren't particularly interested in them. However, when the Kens take over, they brainwash the Barbies and strip them of their rights, displacing them and forcing them into servitude. The Barbies are compelled to provide attention and cater to the Kens' demands, like serving "brewskis." Barbie doesn't hate Ken; she just doesn't love him. This stark contrast highlights the different ways power is exercised and experienced by the genders in Barbie Land. Even in the end, Barbie apologizes to Ken, despite his attempts to strip the Barbies of their rights and establish a patriarchy. She tells him he is his own person and it becomes her "duty" to remind him of this, highlighting the movie's theme of self-identity and mutual respect. This moment also underscores the societal expectation that women are often held responsible for both their own actions and those of men. Barbie apologizes for leading Ken on, while Ken never acknowledges the harm he caused by stealing her house, brainwashing her friends, or forcing her into servitude. Barbie's role in picking Ken back up, despite the pain he caused her, reflects the troubling norm where women are expected to provide emotional support even at their own expense.
When Ruth said Barbie is "perfect" the way she is, also implies that Barbie's feelings about everything basically, are okay and normal too, and that imperfections are what makes something perfect.
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For the Matchbox 20 Beach Scene, the reason they aren't placated is because each Ken doesn't get THEIR Barbie. Each Barbie has their own, separate Ken that comes with that set. By switching places, no Ken is going to be placated because no Ken is getting the attention of their specific Barbie. As the narrator said originally, "Ken only has a good day if Barbie looks at him." Each individual Ken's existence is devoted to his Barbie's attention, not some other Barbie's attention.
31:54 I get where you're coming from Dylan, however, the scene is not just about Ken. It's also a joke about how women often times end up comforting men because they are sad about making mistakes. And Ken crying about the consequences of his actions to Barbie instead of actually apologyzing and owning up to his mistakes is sadly very accurate but therefore funny. So personally I didn't have a problem with them not taking this scene serioulsy.
I agree. I find it interesting to hear the reactions of men who genuinely seem to like the movie, because even though they "get it", the things they don't like always seem to be things that I thought were the main point. There weren't 2 conflated arcs for Barbie, it was just one. She wasn't looking for acceptance + becoming human, she was just going on the same journey all women struggle with to claim their own womanhood instead of just living the role we are born into. the way the quiet scenes were filmed specifically read as longing, confusion, and uncertainty about how she fits in with the world around her (not insecurity about not being good enough). ken's arc wasn't given that serious an ending, because it wasn't about him, it was about her and her navigating compassion for men vs not owing them anything. The logical problem with the guitar jealousy scene isn't illogical for women because that's a lived experience for us. I even had a bunch of guy friends who said the Barbieland clutter and visuals went too far/wasn't great, but what they miss is that all those things triggered visceral memories and reactions from any little girl that grew up with Barbie. I feel like, for all the movie was clearly intended to be approachable for almost all audiences, it was just ultimately made for women who grew up with Barbie, and if you aren't one of those women, you are just aren't going to get as much out of it. And that is pretty uncommon imo.
I feel like Barbie owed Ken more of an apology ... which she did do which redeemed her. and she should have comforted him. this is literally the first time she had ever shown him any care. which is what was helping make her more human. she needed to show him care. the Kens didn't even have homes and she never thought about that before. never noticing she was hurting someone. vs at the end where she notices the pain she caused and needed to help him. its integral to Barbie's growth. there was actually 0 consequences to his actions. In fact at the end its a good thing that he did what he did because it caused the other barbies to slowly start treating the Kens better. even at the end the Narrator stated so. Kens growth just needed to happen quickly(movie time) and he has been the thing to break up serious moments so even for his own moment. I had np for it having humor because i thought it fit the character and not because of your take that he was just a wining person who just made mistakes. Since Barbie made all the mistakes. this i think is why Barbie land mirrors the real world and the Kens fighting for some power and fighting to be seen is supposed to mirror women in the rl fighting for those things ... and the barbies mirror the men. The Kens are even more emotional and actually care but none of the Barbie's have that. rewatch and instead think of the Kens as women and it makes more sense... even his dramatic crying and leaving to cry on his bed
It wasn't funny to me, I liked how Barbie was comforting Ken, he might not have felt those emotions before, or didn't know why he did certain things or felt embarrassed, it takes time to own up to things and apologize and take accountability, I wouldn't expect someone to do that right away as they might not have known how to do it, are still processing their emotions, etc. The fact that barbie comforted him, was beautiful to me as she helped him get out of selfishness, that's not wrong. Sometimes having someone to help us can be very beneficial.
It doesn't really work since they flipped the gender roles. The scene wants to have the emotional association of irl woman having to go through that struggle of doing all the emotional labor for men when they deserve the apology, but in practice thats what Barbie has been doing to Ken instead. With how Barbieland is set up, he's the disenfranchised group (no house, no identity outside of Barbie until the end, no representation in government) that has been wronged by her by how she took his support for granted and honestly never questioned how the system was treating him. After all, the only reason the patriarchy was appealing to Ken was not for the same reasons it's appealing to men irl, it was because Barbieland has systemic inequality that puts the Kens at the bottom as a byproduct of the flipped gender roles, ergo they go too far when another system is introduced that gives them agency over their lives even if its at the Barbies expense. Which does confuse me for why we were supposed to cheer for the Barbies like... they don't deserve to be shoved into misogynistic positions, but we're supposed to cheer for the actual disfranchised group of the Kens getting reset to basically 0? I don't think this movie thought through the implications of just flipping the gender roles in Barbieland, it really fucks with the message.
30:50 i'd actually argue otherwise. maybe it's because i'm a therapist, but i was always taught that silence is powerful. i think it's the silent moments of beauty/observation that creep up on barbie and eventually hit her, just like these kinds of realizations hit us all slowly in real life. i think she felt inadequate because she was trying to be something she didn't think she could be. she isn't a human, but she also was outgrowing what it was to be a doll. so, eventually, she makes a choice. that montage was also kind of ruth showing her the beauty and pain of being human.
I love the Barbie movie. At the start, I think maybe you didn't realise how common it is for little girls to treat their dolls like that. Dolls have seen some things. The silences were so impactful in the cinema, you could just feel everyone there was so invested and present. The narrator saying Margot Robbie was the wrong person to cast for that point made everyone laugh because it's true. It didn't feel out of place in the moment; I'm sure most women were thinking along those lines as soon as Barbie said it, so it was nice to have that acknowledgement of it. And as for the daughter, her change is subtle, but I noticed it most as a visual one, because she goes from wearing all black, to Barbieland where she ends up in all pink and in the end she's wearing a pink top, which shows how she's changed.
As a girl, I have never once treated my dolls like that. It's kinda barbaric. Especially dolls that can shatter, I can't imagine anyone would ever do that 😂
@baby_doll_eyes I personally only ever played with plastic dolls since ones that can shatter are a safety hazard. But it's definitely common for girls to be rough with dolls. But of course, not all girls were or are. But weird Barbies are a thing for a reason.
The daughter also was the reason they went back to "save Barbie," as she put it. The daughter showed a new supportive perspective of her mom as well. They had a bonding moment followed by that handshake hair flip.
Yes i feel like some moments were lost on him because they were more impactful in the theater perhaps. All the moments he calls out for being unfunny or strange had me and my girlfriends crying or crying laughing.
I think the deep moments of womanhood in this movie is what made you, Dylan, feel as though the characters weren’t fleshed out. They were just in a much deeper way that people who have experienced those thoughts and emotions that come with womanhood can understand and relate to a lot better. The scenes of the daughter growing up were so clear to me as a girl becoming a teenager and distancing herself from her mom because I’ve had that same experience and though I haven’t experienced it in the opposite direction as a mom, seeing those scenes made me think of my own mom and how she must have felt while I pushed her and all the “silly” girly things i used to love away. That’s what made the mother daughter story so impactful by the end. They went through something that showed them both how much they mattered to one another as women in this world. Barbie’s scenes of seeing the real world is relatable in the way that, as we grow up, this world becomes more and more apparent to us as somewhere we have to struggle to be heard and seen. Seeing her look around at our world and look over at the older woman and think that she is beautiful is a uniquely womanly experience. We are told by so many men and women who have been told by men what beautiful is and how we can change this or that to fit their idea of beauty and often that idea includes youth and size. That old lady on the bench was in no way beautiful by any traditional definition but to Barbie she represents a life of experiences as a woman in the real world and that is beautiful to Barbie. Additionally, her chats with Ruth are charged with emotion. At the Mattel office, their conversation is almost nonexistent but you can just see by the way Ruth is looking at Barbie her exact thoughts. To me, she’s thinking about her purpose in making Barbie and how the brand has evolved. She’s thinking about what Barbie represents. When they talk at the end of the movie Ruth sees Barbie as a real, true woman. She gives her the beautiful memories of other women and it sparks those new genuine emotions Barbie has and it’s that which makes her human. Basically, other women build the foundations of other women. It was really powerful and I really don’t think that’s something you can understand as someone who hasn’t had experience being a woman, ya know.
@@soandso5058 If everyone is an individual with individual experiences, how is she wrong? That's OP's individual experience and she's suggesting the Dylan didn't see it because he cannot relate to it. Oh, i just realized that you're the same person as before. Eh, i'll still post this comment bc I think I'm right lol
@@soandso5058 guess what… everyone got something different from this movie. All in all it’s a movie aimed at woman empowerment so sorry if i don’t really think i’m wrong for getting a woman empowerment message. I understand that’s not the message everyone got but my friend group of mostly women have talked about this movie and all came away with pretty similar messages to what I got out of it. I won’t say you’re wrong either though. The beauty of art comes from the eyes of the beholder. I can’t really tell if you liked the movie or not but if you did then the message you got seems unique and important to you and if you didn’t really like it then hopefully you can find something in that of why it wasn’t the movie for you and learn something from that.
As a woman I related a lot more to ken than I did to any barbie. Her character was too cookie cutter and uninspired. And the real woman's speech was honestly unbearable to sit through with how it slaps you in the face. The idea that the mother character brings about women not needing to be this extraordinary people to have worth is great but that speech took all the nuance out of it.
@@maya-drinks-dp Actually, I think the final (nuanced) message was that for a true healthy society both genders need to be empowered. So no, it wasn't about women empowerment, it was about human empowerment, which is why they joked about the inadequacy of the final order of the barbie world, and Ruth talks of humans in her final speech, not women.
I think you are right, it probably just resonates with women more because we are usually second class citizens. Getting better through the years but it depends from country to country, so the empowerment message will hit women more (maybe not you, but women in general). Also is funny you relate to Ken more bc he is suppose to represent women roles in our society, so it makes a lot of sense you did. @@franciscasilva8406
dylan making fun of the fact that he knows he didn’t know the ruth lore and being so close is hilarious i would’ve loved to see his reaction to finding out
I actually loved the narrator breaking in unexpectedly. The world was falling apart and suddenly the reassuring tones of Helen Mirren let you know that it's not all bad 😊
and i like it cause the joke is a play on how plenty people, often youtubers, say that during a scene where a beautiful woman has to break down because she isn’t pretty enough it doesnt work because that actress is already miles more gorgeous than the average woman. i’ve always found that complaint stupid in the first place (like individually you can look your best *and* your worst, regardless of other people) so seeing them make fun of it by having the narrator go like that was funny. also that incredibly random break from the movie got the most laughs from my theatre bc it was so absurd to do at an emotional point so i think it’s just a matter of preference.
Me too!! I watched it in theatres and there was audible laughter from a lot of viewers. I guess it's just one of those things that not everyone enjoys (I mean personally I dislike narration so was annoyed at first but idk the little joke just made everything feel better).
I don't think it's fair to say he's "scared". I think it's more like he's just tired of having to constantly defend himself against people who don't matter.
Dylan, it's about time you watch the OLD BARBIE MOVIES. yes. the animated ones. pretty pretty please. edit : i didn't expect many ppl would like this & reply. and yes i know very well how Dylan HATES recommendation. but imma do it anyway sorry not sorry ❤️
@@moteniolaaina4173 oh..we uh were actually saying…how much we would haaaate if he reacted to those 🫢🫢 oh noo pls don’t react to the animated Barbie movie series…🫢👀nooo
for once i actually have to disagree with you Dylan. the "quiet" scenes were actually some of my favorites. instead of throwing out jokes or lines like they did during the whole movie, they cut out the unnecessary dialog and let the scene speak for itself. so much is being said in the eye contact between Barbie and Ruth, and the music mixed with the nostalgic scenes is absolutely beautiful. the beauty of the film together with the message makes it magical, just like barbie.
I agree with the bench scene, but not with the tea scene. It put me off the "danger" of the previous chasing scene. I was like: how long are they going to talk while a bunch of guys are looking for Barbie hahaha. Also, for me, a lot of the scenes should have been a little bit shorter, including silence scenes. But I think that Dylan's point is that because of the duality of the final message, many scenes seem wasted. For instance, the tea cup scene represents that moment of vulnerability where Barbie needs some guidance to boost up her self-confidence. But, that moment could have been used to reflect in Barbie's desire to become human, which wasn't really brought up until the movie's end. Did anybody else think that Barbie wanted to be human before the final part of the movie? I genuinely thought that she was going to live with what she'd learned in Barbieland as the other Barbies were going to do. Moreover, we didn't know that it was possible for dolls to become human 😂. I think that what the writers wanted was to quite literally humanize Barbie, and, subsequently, womanhood. But, in my opinion, it is not driven by the story or by the characters. It is more of a external than internal driver of the story.
@@gustavomarquez4291 some scenes could’ve been shorter, but after the chasing scene, they took a break from the comedy and focused on Barbie and Ruth and this interaction. They were there in such an everyday way, it felt almost familiar and normal, and it showcased a more human Barbie, not the one they wanted to shut in a box just a few minutes before. It also showed Barbie learning from Ruth, how to sit or how to drink tea. They influenced each other. And I love that they didn’t rush that scene, and the importance of it.
@@madeleineh.h9027Yeah, maybe. I think that you could have done the break of comedy better if they did it after the chase scene. Or if Ruth had helped with it. But, well, I think that you didn't read my edited response hahaha. I think that that scene represents a moment of vulnerability as you've pointed out. However, the introduction of Ruth has everything to do with Barbie becoming human, and that is not brought up in any part of their conversation. We don't know that that's even a possibility till the movie's end. I think that that's Dylan's point. For me, the writers wanted to quite literally humanize Barbie and womanhood, so it happens based on the message of the movie instead of a character's motivation.
For anyone who doesn’t already know (because I didn’t for a while) the lady on the bench is Barbara Handler, Ruth Handler’s daughter and part of the inspiration for the barbie doll (I think). That scene when Barbie tells Barbara that she’s beautiful made me SOB because she IS barbie but she’s also human and she’s grown and aged. I don’t know I just love this movie So. Much. And I don’t mean to be rude in any way but I genuinely don’t think men will ever truly understand every part this movie. Also the home video clips when barbie is with Ruth at the end are clips from women that actually worked on the movie
While i agree on some of the arcs feeling unfinished/not fully fleshed out, i think the point of Barbie's was that she's accepting the imperfection that she was insecure about before, and she accepts this by choosing to become human because there is no such thing as imperfection in Barbieland. Her accepting her feelings of inadequacy is intrinsically tied with choosing to stay in the real world, they aren't 2 separate ideas like the video suggests
i agree with ur thoughts on the ending. they should’ve done a montage of her experiencing the real world (grocery shopping, playing with dogs, etc) before she came back to Barbie Land so she would know what it’s like to be human
Yeah, I really couldn't connect to the montage they used. It had a lot of imagery to appeal to a lot of people, but to me that made it less meaningful. Show scenes of the character(s) you're trying to make us care about. We're already feeling emotions for them, grab some b-roll and make us cry!
I totally agree. I know I as a man don't resonate with the feminist messages of the movie, but I felt like the message about the inherent beauty of life was more meaningful and a lot less shallow than the feminist messaging. But they hugely missed out on how powerful it could have been. Like Dylan said they waste time in the human world with not funny jokes and just in general not very important plot points. Will Ferrell as the CEO and the other bumbling idiots of Matell are not funny and they spend more time on them than they should have. They should have spent the time in the human world with Barbie learning about humanity and actually seeing the beauty of being human. I would lean into the relationship between the mother and the daughter and have her spend time with them and realize that despite the fact that they argue they still love each other which I think would reflect on the human experience well. Life is hard and messy and relationships are hard and messy, but its worth it. Idk I really enjoyed this movie but I felt like it really missed out on being so much more.
@@paddyq3235 yes! they should’ve totally had barbie witness more of the complicated relationship of the mom and daughter since dolls don’t really have moms/kids/families. that would’ve also gave us more development on the mom/daughter relationship too. going along with the “life is precious” theme, she should’ve also witness sad things (people in hospitals, homeless people, people getting fired, etc). it didn’t make sense that she barely experienced anything in the human world but wants to become human. overall, i still enjoyed the movie and all the pink of course :D
Yess I agree with this whole thread. I really enjoyed the movie for what it was, but it felt like the emotional moments and connections were underutilized
this is why I love Dylan's commentary, he actually critiques it from a production side of things as well as appreciating the movie as it is. So much better than normal reaction channels
1) The Mattel guy with the broken arm is actually a recurring character in Fleabag and he's really good in that. 2) I feel like the daughter did grew. At the beginning she doesn't seem interested in much, she's distant towards her mom but as the movie goes by, she grew closer to her mom, defended her, empathised with her and was an active member of the crew/plan. 3) Funfact, the woman on the bench is Ann Roth, an Oscar-winning costume designer 4) There was a lot of deleted scenes so I wonder if those endings would felt better with some of those cut scenes...
I think Mattel itself is so cartoonish in this film because it’s sort of the “in-between” for Barbieland and the real world. They are both creators of and part of Barbie’s existence, right in between being human and idea.
I like to say that Ryan played the *heck* out of that character. He danced, he sang, he improvised comedic scenes, he was almost a villain, and then come to a conclusion "kenough". He deserves all the awards for this performance. 👏
I think that a lot of your disconnection to the message/emotions comes down to the silences and the unsaid stuff in scenes that truly is down to the female experience. We didn't need more emphasis on those moments because we innately understood them, so those beats hit so much harder for us than they would for you.
@@depressantdrugMe neither, and I'm a woman. I legitimately didn't love this movie, because it didn't even reference the animated Barbie films AND was wayyy too political so it didn't feel fun. Maybe I'm biased, but Greta Gerwig's Little Women was awful too- for similar reasons (strayed far from the OG book AND shoved modern politics into a different time period).
@@yishmoosa1234 we found the pick me. I hate to break it to you, but literally everything is political. & because it didn't reference the animated Barbie movies from 20 some years ago??? Literally the dumbest critique ever. Maybe if you spent less time being a pick me, and stayed silent, you would understand those scenes some more because they were glaringingly obvious.
Even though Dylan said he was in this for fun, making jokes, and having a good time. He still gave a better review than most people I've seen do this commentary. And that makes me very happy cause most people would tear this movie to shreds saying all the wrong things,but even when Dylan was talking about how the Kens are like real life men he didn't take it too seriously. I really enjoy this commentary(like I do all his videos)
Fun fact: the daughter (Sasha) is based off a Bratz doll. Her friends she sits with at lunch are also the stereotypical Bratz dolls. Which is why she’s so mean to Barbie in the beginning. Barbie and Bratz were rival dolls.
This is really helpful. I think some of the scenes that were meant to pay tribute to other toys, or other movies like 2001: A Space Odyssey might have seemed very strange to people who didn’t get the references. It makes the movie a little disjointed on first viewing.
I get that there is a gap of people that didn't watch Sex Education and two of the actors from that are Barbie/Ken, but Conner Swindles that plays the regular worker dude, while playing Adam in Sex Education completely won me over (I get that there are some that disagree with my sentiment and that is valid). Conner warms my heart. And as a note Conner is a comedic actor, but he's British and if you haven't seen Sex Education I get that someone wouldn't know that.
british humour also plays a bit differently than american, so i have huge respect for british comedians trying to play off of americans ESPECIALLY if they're doing a not-silly american accent and vice versa. it's just easier to riff off of someone with a similar comedy style and very hard to get comedic tone across in a different accent.
What made me genuinely cry on Ruth’s speech is the line about how mothers stop in time so their daughters can see how much they have grown. In my experience (and on the experience of some friends), mothers are not seen as humans when we are younger. There is a day though where you just look at her and you see it, how much she has given up, how many dreams she may not have fulfilled, the burden of having to be a perfect mother all the time just to be taken for granted. When you are a young female it is easy to partake in harmful jokes made to your mother, coming even from your father, without realizing that this might be our future too.
“We mothers stand still so our daughters can look back and see how far they’ve come” watching that in the theater next to my mom, dressed in our pink outfits together… I cried
THIS DUDE. It reminded me of that quote that is like daughter and father laugh at mother but that won’t stop the daughter from sharing the same fate as the mother or something but like omg
My mom was very open and communicative with me growing up, so she shared a lot about her life and any struggles she overcame or mistakes she made. It made me always see her as human, and a complex person-so when she ever made any mistakes with me or anyone in the family, I was understanding and could forgive her and move on. I understood she wasn’t this “superhero,” and she was a person with hopes, dreams, and regrets. I saw her as a very wise person I could learn from, and I did. I hope I can be half as good of a mom as she’s been to me.
I think despite all its flaws, barbie is a good depiction of girlhood and womanhood. Especially ruth’s speech and the montage. Maybe i was just projecting my own feelings onto that montage but it genuinely made me feel a sense of sisterhood like all my negative and positive experiences of being a girl were understood. It was brief but I appreciated it nonetheless.
I think this movie hits differently for those who have experienced girlhood. In those moments of silence we can project our own meaning and I think that’s beautiful. Also I thought the making of Mattel scenes was purposely obnoxious and boring as a another message the movie tries to portray. From my perspective this movie is a portrayal of the simple and complex perspectives of girlhood.
Dylan... you say you wanted Barbie to realize what she wants, but missed the point of the scenes you reference. Also, Sasha did change! She went from having a negative relationship with her mother to realizing her mom's importance and strength. Perhaps you missed it because it happened while other events were going on. It's a film that resonates with the female experience, so I can see how some things might not have been as impactful with you.
@d.o.m.i.i couldn't have said it better!!! what i was expecting from the movie was the message that both men and women are important, needed and valued. we simply cannot exist without the other, they fail to bring that full circle. And yes the characters didn't grow either they're just tweaked a little at the end.
oh don't be condescending. I'm a woman and men hater when I'm online, I wanted to love this movie and I ended up being disappointed. I think it's clear that although the movie does touch on some issues relevant for just women, it does a poor job navigating through them and developing the story, specially on barbieland
I actually loved the Mattel scenes- it's like instead of giving this realistic view of a company, they are as goofy as the Barbie world and are aware of everything.
22:11 I've never disagreed with you more Dylan, that sht made the entire theater laugh when I went to watch it because we were all thinking that exact thing and not expecting that
Literally!! My theatre was practically rolling on the floor from laughter. It was so unexpected during such an emotionally charged moment, I was in tears and I couldn't tell you which emotion I was crying from
Yeah, some things work when you enjoy it at a theater vs by yourself at home 😝 never understood "theater experience" bc i assumed watching a movie was the same anywhere until I started watching on my phone. i grew an appreciation for actually going to the theaters this year and I'm so glad i did. It definitely gives a different perspective and i wish theaters offered reshowings of movies more often
It's weird to require a comedy to follow certain narrative rules throughout the movie. That's like saying Space Balls was "not allowed" or shouldn't have broken the 4th wall halfway into the movie when they did. The jokes worked. Can't please everyone, and they don't have to.
The many scenes that are filled with silence are actually filled with a knowing messages between women and our struggles… definitely targeted more towards women
I can't lie, I found this film really emotional at the end but I very much think its because it was made to hit home for the female audience. I think with the slower moments you're missing the point a tiny bit. I feel like the idea behind those scenes and why they seem so unknown and confusing is because they are meant to be exactly that. Emotions, especially for women are greatly confusing, like being a woman is being 80% confused about why we feel certain ways seemingly for no reason. That's why I think it hits home so hard, because its that coming to terms with one not knowing how you actually feel about yourself or life and two having to accept that its the way things are. Barbie getting to walk into the light feels like she's figured a little part of herself out which is sooooo relatable and scary and sad, as its such a tiny bit of what's to come, and there's so much uncertainty still to come, but the main message is, that its ok to not know what you're supposed to do or be. The slow moments are meant to be blank spaces that don't make as much sense, because that's exactly how our emotions can feel to us, but that's just how I feel. I loved the movie. Great commentary as ever 💖💖
I felt very dissatisfied at the end of Barbie and couldn’t quite figure out why. Your explanation of how the ending could have been better was so spot on. Like it just felt like something was missing.
Righttt me too. I would’ve love to love the movie, but I never had that full satisfaction. It was still fun sitting in the theatre where everyone was in pink and they were all so nice
Despite also feeling dissatisfied when I watched it, I kinda think the ending fit the movie. At the end of the day, Barbie is a product and an idea Mattel is selling, so I never expected this movie to give anything more than a superficial look at the world, feminism, and why Barbie would ever choose to leave her idyllic Barbieland for the real world. It's the perfect ending for a movie that was mostly meant to promote a new version of Barbie for a new generation and introduce the new Mattel cinematic universe.
Maybe if they cut out some of those Mattel scenes and made room to show a bit more of Barbie learning about being human while she was in the real world.
The guy at ~19:20 is a comedian. It's Jamie Demetriou - he's in lots of UK comedies including Stath Lets Flats. They DID cast a comedian and he's great!
i think the "incomplete" stories add more value to the story, because for example the morther and daughter just started seeing eye to eye which is more of a start rather than a conclusion. Just as life is
@@mariannestrgzr9374 but that also reflects real life and that’s the point. Also, the silent moments spoke the loudest for me. I didn’t need the movie to fill in the gaps with dialogue, it was much more powerful without it imo
@@GrinningLikeaDelicateJamesDean Sure but I too could make a movie with poor dialogue, weird rythm and incoherent scenario and say that’s because real life is like this and that’s the point. It’s an argument I generally agree with, but not in that specific case. There’s a way to do all those things in a cinematographic manner that still remains meaningful, and I didn’t find it in the BARBIE movie.
I think the ending is much more about growing out of barbieland, all the feelings and changes she underwent she seemed to lose the innocence she had, which is why she's shown the childhood montage, because its celebrating that innocence while still recognizing moving on isn't so bad.
Dylan is a Ken at heart. His skill is Movie. Not reviewing them. Not watching them. Not making them. Just Movie.
To be fair, he is very good at Movie
this...yes it makes perfect sense!! thank you!!
You're very brave Ken
He is so good at Movie!!!
what a good job he does at Movie!
The scene where barbie calls the older lady beautiful is where she sees beauty in aging and begins to desire that instead of staying the same stereotypical Barbie.
Yeah, she starts out afraid of imperfection and death but discovers there's more to the experience that make it worth having.
The dam begins to break, slowly
Its almost like in Hook. Peter Pan is afraid of growing up but in this film he grew up as there were things he wanted to experience.
Yes, also Dylan wanted there to be more conversation with Barbie wanting to be human. But I think they did that wonderfully because women have a lot of quiet moments, unheard or ignored and it's really wonderful because the introspection in those moments is so real
I think the old woman is actually the inventor of Barbie’s daughter!!
The conversations in Barbieland is supposed to reflect how kids make up dialogue when playing with dolls, thats why a lot of it seems dumb
or the way ken was flying in the air all crazy after he hit the plastic beach wave before landing right on his behind. that was EXACTLY how kids played with dolls.
No child talks like this
Still there are some inconsistencies there, like it’s said right in the beginning that the Barbies believed they solved all women’s social problems in the real world but then later in the movie when Ken brings “the patriarchy” to Barbieland they say the Barbies were vulnerable to patriarch ideas because they were never exposed to them, but how could the Barbies think thanks to them things were better for women in the real world without being aware that things were worse for them in the past hence the patriarchy?
I hate when people act like they could do better when it comes to scripting... I know he does not claim to be but it's implied when being so critical.
@@itsdavidhoth at the very least he acknowledges that its a movie for the ladies so he knows he might not get everything but yeah :P
Here's the thing dylan, women don't need words most of the time to understand what the other is feeling. There was so much that transpired in those silent moments, it's insane
I get what you’re saying but as a man who grew up with an autistic sister this feels like an alien statement to me LMAO
That’s not something that only applies to women, actually that’s a rule of cinema that Dylan himself talked about many times: show, don’t tell. I guess what he meant was that those moments felt hollow to the point we could just see it however we wanted to instead of the movie actually wanting to say or show something
@@lauracerqueiramachado8979 But the thing is this movie is made for the girls and most women understood everything that was communicated in those silent moments, those silent moments told everything they needed to for the target audience.
As a woman, can't relate. That scene was just odd.
Men can tell what eachother are feeling without words aswell but for that scene i dunno at first i was like is that old lady like tryna poison/sedate barbie with the tea so she cant escape like the old lady works for mattel would make sense but once i realised it was ruth handler the scene makes more sense second time round but yeah just felt a bit odd on first watch but i can see what they were going for.
The “you’re so beautiful” was Barbie wanting to grow old. It was doing exactly what you wanted it to without dialogue lol
and also die.
I was gonna comment this! Thank you for understanding that message! I'm a man and even I got that on my FIRST watch.
But it was only 1 scene that lasted 2 minutes…I’m sorry but that doesn’t feel like much to completely change your entire identity. If the theme is “It’s better to be real and imperfect than to be a doll” then that should be explored and explained during the entire movie, not in one scene only.
@@confusedpozole406 it was a short scene. but it set the rest of the movie. after barbie had that emotional realisation her perspective of the real world and beauty as she knew it completely changed.
the scene with ruth was basically the same thing but longer. this time she was faced with the person who made her and it solidified this "its better to be imperfect" idea
"It's like an everyday Barbie? Why would you want that?"
Dylan doesn't know that The Sims is incredibly popular with girls.
Yesss i'm obsessed with playing through generations normally and cas. About barbie too, we have everyday barbies irl and people buy them. Also, Barbies didn't use to have roles till recent years. I never had dolls with certain roles, although, i was a MH kid
The sims isn't popular because it's an everyday life, it's popular because it isn't. You get to play around the rules of the game, act like a psychopathic god, or fuck everyone in sight
@@franciscasilva8406 Right, but that's the same as Barbie dolls. An Ordinary Barbie would just be a Sim.
@@FurTheWorkers So people don't want ordinary barbies, they want blank slate barbies, projecting whatever thing they want into them, which is a very different concept.
Lmao that's one side of it but there's also people who enjoy playing just normal life with the sims. One partner, kids a house, going through every stage of life. @@franciscasilva8406
The bonfire scene bothered the Ken's because each Ken was made for a specific Barbie and they are ok with other Barbies but want their own Barbies more.
I also think that their jealousy is stronger than the need for attention
I think a lot of the jealousy, especially in that scene, is linked to Barbies all being unique and Kens being interchangeable.
I also think that they want the Barbie they have eyes for to want them aswell, they don’t just want possession of the Barbie’s because the Barbie’s have brushed them off and rejected them so many times they want the Barbie’s to be the ones wanting them instead
Dylan not understanding the silence is the most man hes been
exactly what I was thinking
To be fair I did complain abt the silence especially in the kitchen scene and I’m a woman😭
Like those 2 scenes are doing exactly what he is wanting but he just didn't understand it lol
SO TRUE
dude i was like "thats literally the point" cuz like there is no way to put into words what its like to be a woman. you just have to feel it and see it, and thats what the montage and the silence was for
The fact that I didn't blink an eye when you said "I hope something really heartwarming like her mom just died" says something about you Dylan...
Fr I don’t think anyone of us were surprised
Tbf that's where I thought the movie was going too. Why else would she be having thoughts of death?
the irony in dylan not liking how on the nose the “beach off” joke is is that that is quite literally all of the jokes he makes, and that we enjoy, in his commentaries
Also idk about you guys but I and everyone I know who watched the movie understood the joke differently. We all thought it was a reference to j**king off, which would be way more funnier.
@@Liz-ir1blyes that was the whole joke. Which makes it even funnier that Dylan didn't like it😂
@@lizzyrank5405he did get it he just didn’t think it was funny.
He got the joke.. but they’re delivery compared to his cringy jokes, are different 😂😂..
i also think it was kinda a joke on how "manly" men behave, like how ridiculous it can sound to women. not surprised he missed that lol
Can't believe Dylan is actually reviewing a recent fim rather than some obscure teen movie from the 00s 😂
i was literally just thinking the same thing 😭
he did little mermaid recently
I think it has nothing to do with the huge man crush he has on ryan gosling
It makes me want to watch him watch all the old Barbie movies😂
😂😂😂😂😂
I'm turning 27 soon and the amount of times I've heard Alpha Male podcasters talk about how women over 25 are "past their prime" and how younger people think of me as old is enough to make me think differently about myself. I know being in my 20s means I'm still relatively young in the grand scheme of things but when men are treated as desirable when they turn 30,40,50, etc. while a woman that's older than 23 is treated like she's no longer valuable to society, it makes sense why men wouldn't really react to the bench scene the same as women.
Barbie is not only admiring an elderly woman for aging (a foreign concept to her) but also calls her beautiful -- something that a lot of people would never do. The confidence in that old woman made me feel more reassured. It made me look forward to the idea of growing old.
I used to work in a specialty that catered to the elderly. So many elder women telling me not to let what men and society expect from me to impact who I am. When we age we lose what is considered valuable to so many, so invest in yourself as for who you are. I'm glad I heard those lessons in my 20's.
wtf is an "alpha male podcast" and why are you listening to them lol, they sound horrible?
I feel like more now than before, women don't care anymore what men think of them. 25 should be your time to put all the ways in which OTHERS see you behind you and start living to only care about what you think of yourself.
Men Podcasters are trash, women who judge other women are trash. Become whomever you want to be. And never let he world influence your self worth at any age. Because there are so many people older than you still figuring out everything too, no one ever expires, we just live. ❤
I also see a lot of people esp women on the internet say that in their 30s and 40s they felt more confident, more happy and less lost or frantic than they did in their 20s. And I think that's a nice thing to look forward to :)
I think everyone should do what makes them happy when it comes to their bodies but all the face lifts and stuff and like 13 year olds already using anti aging creams and stuff...just makes me feel weird. Idk
Same here - I'm in my 20's and it's so scary at times to hear how "everything will be lost when you're over 27" kinda stuff. But then I try to remember that aging is a privilege and not something bad. Some people don't get to age so I should take it as a blessing.
I agree that Mattel's time could've been cut down substationally, possibly to make room for more of Barbie's exploration of humanity. But the "I'm a son of a mother. I'm the nephew of a woman aunt." Joke had me wheezing. It's so accurate! 😂
that’s kinda the whole point of the Mattel scenes tho.. it’s an exaggeration of how stupid men can be
@@alanarose767 Yeah, and like I said, it's accurate lol
Reminds me of Peter b Parker in across the spiderverse, "as the father of a daughter and the son of a mother.."
I think it also lends to the argument at the end of the movie that it's okay to be average, to be normal. Not everyone has to be a main character to get their time to be acknowledged.
I also just love Will Ferrell, and cutting down his time feels criminal 😅
I love how Dylan is so consistently ‘so close yet so far’ with his theories. It’s a real talent.
This
One that was not even related to the movie but rather Barbie itself is being able to take a baby out of a Barbie.
His theories make everything better!
Yep, his entire explanation of the movie is also so far off
It's like Ken Jeong on Masked Singer 😂😂
The reason the Kens get jealous when the Barbies switch their interest to another Ken is because each Ken is specifically coupled with a specific Barbie. Ryan (stereotypical Ken) and Margot (stereotypical Barbie) are *literally* created to be together. It is amplified in the statement, "I only exist within the warmth of your gaze," that Ken says before Barbie helps him realize that "Ken is me!" So, if her "gaze" shifts to another Ken then the *coupled* Ken losing his existence...until the lesson allows them to be their own being.
Gosling is beach Ken. He constantly says his job is Beach. Not lifeguard. Just beach.
This was my favourite message of the movie, we've heard the whole women empowerment thing over and over again, but what kens experiencing is something almost everyone understands and is so SO important, and we dont often see it from the mans side, so this isnt a topic very often explored and i loved that they did it
@@cloudeia6894except it wasn’t explored and he went back to exactly where he was in the beginning, but the women get to move on? That’s not good messaging
@@ninjanibba4259 Ken learnt the value of himself and being able to exist without a girlfriend and the women realised they had been taking the Kens for granted, which leads to their eventual integration in the upper levels of their society. I think it is good messaging.
I was confused about that too. It seemed like the couplings came out of the blue because the kens were acting interested in everybody before that beach scene by the fire.
I loved the silent scenes. It’s a silence I, and I think many other women, know well. The comfortability and safety and understanding and belonging of just being with another woman, especially an older woman is not loud, it’s quiet and peaceful. Words just aren’t needed
in my opinion barbie becoming human IS her accepting that shes not perfect, so i do think that journey kinda comes full circle
Yeah this is how I feel about it too! "In the real world, humans aren't perfect like Barbies are, and that's okay and even beautiful" was what I got from the movie, to even become human she had to accept herself fully, insecurities and all. I definitely cried at the end lol
But still that decision kind of came out of nowhere, Barbie spent just a few hours in the real world and most of her experiences there were unpleasant for her, what made her choose to stay there for good? Why did she make such a point to get Barbieland back to the way it was if she wasn’t even going to stay there? Why didn’t Ken go as well (he had many more reasons to want to live in the real world than her)?
@@kittensaver same, she had to say goodbye to being a perfect idea and embrace being a whole person, flaws and everything, and i feel like that is something that i could relate to. especially when you go grow up as a woman there are so many ideas of who you should and can be and breakig through those expectstions and molds is such an essential step in growing up but also a never ending process for anyone i guess. also i liked those silent moments, they had a lot of weight and i guess the point that you could also just hear your own thoughts reflected in the silence was nice
@@lauracerqueiramachado8979 for barbie its just embracing reality i guess, she saw how muh beauty and strength the was to the real women in the real world. and ken i think his whole point is that he needs to define hinself in the barbie dominated world and figure out who he is there. yk kinda both barbie and ken chose the "harder" path to go to to define themselves against the odds that are stacked against them
@@lauracerqueiramachado8979 it's about accepting reality real life women are not barbie, real life women live in a patriarchal world that sucks and we just have to deal with it and try to be happy that's the point
To me, the messages make sense together - at the end, Barbie no longer wants to be perfect, she wants to be human (and thus inherently imperfect).
Exactly, it would be hard for her to just live in Barbieland after what she had experienced and felt. Her arc was knowing that she didn’t always have to be perfect and being in Barbieland she’d have to be stereotypically perfect
But still that decision kind of came out of nowhere, Barbie spent just a few hours in the real world and most of her experiences there were unpleasant for her, what made her choose to stay there for good? Why did she make such a point to get Barbieland back to the way it was if she wasn’t even going to stay there? Why didn’t Ken go as well (he had many more reasons to want to live in the real world than her)?
@@lauracerqueiramachado8979 she helped get Barbieland back from the Ken’s because they were kinda ruining it, it wasn’t a functioning economy anymore the Kens focused on the wrong things. Barbie made her decision based on her experience in the real world and what Ruth showed her, she found beauty in the real worlds flaws and imperfections
Agreed!
@@ambershoba how were the Kens ruining it? The changes Ken did to Barbieland had more positivity and freedom than how things were before, in the beginning of the movie it felt like a pink cult, but after he changed a few things everyone was happy, you can say that “the Barbies weren’t happy, they were brainwashed” but come on, that makes no sense and it’s just a petty excuse to say they just aren’t against the system because they are victims of it and they don’t know what they want (pretty much what feminists say about woman that are happy with the way they live), and I think it made sense that the Barbies would enjoy it because well it was something new and different and they had much less to worry about. And how wasn’t it a functioning economy anymore? The way things were before only the Barbies worked, with Ken’s changes the Barbies and the Kens were working
I am SHOCKED that Dylan didn't even touch on the part where Allan beat up all the construction workers when the mom and daughter were trying to escape Barbieland. That was one of my favorite parts of the movie, and I figured Dylan would have also really enjoyed it since there was violence involved lol.
that and allen’s joke abt the ken’s figuring out to build sideways and not up lol
Omg me too I was so heartbroken when it went to the next part I reversed it just cus I was so sure he'd mention it and thought i'd somehow skipped it
And when Allan references his own slogan and says, "I'm Ken's best friend. All his clothes fit me." I didn't notice that until my third viewing of the movie 😂
Allen is such a gem🤌
The reason why the kens would turn against each other during the song partner swap is because they would feel inferior to one another, it doesn't matter that another barbie likes them because the one they liked left for another ken. If that makes sense
It does (to me) :)
You nailed it. In the movie Rounders, the protagonist/narrator says something like "Few players can recall the big pots they have won, but every player remembers with remarkable accuracy the outstanding tough beats of his career." I think this is true for competitive types in general, not just poker players - a loss hurts more than a win feels good, probably because you expect to win, but a loss comes off as an affront to your very being or something. Same deal in that sequence, the loss of a Barbie to another Ken feels worse than the gain of a Barbie from another Ken.
"Even if you did wanna make the argument that men are poorly represented in Barbie, women also could make the argument that they're poorly represented or underrepresented in other films." THIS Dylan thank you!!!
He really just summed up the entire discourse the film caused in one line.
Every part of modern media poorly represents men as bumbling idiots that can’t do anything without the help of their wife
How are they poorly represented / underrepresented in other films? I’m genuinely curious because it seems now that men are the ones being badly represented, just from what I know, as a marvel fan, suddenly women are dominating all these shows and every movie is about a girlboss. I’m not trying to argue here I just have not seen women underrepresented in like years
@Aliu21. Theres many different arguments for underrepresentation or misrepresentation of women in movies. I admittedly have not watched many of the recent Marvel things, but ill point out, you notice it. You notice women suddenly being in lead roles and you see it as men being misrepresented. And i doubt you noticed it or cared when the men were in the lead roles, or saw nothing wrong with it. The goal is for men and women to be equally represented, but we're going through a phase of women being extra represented to make up for the past. In the case of Marvel, things like super heros, video games, etc. have always been marketed solely for boys and men, and now theyre moving toward including girls and women, and part of that shift includes making up for the past. I understand the argument of Marvel kinda overdoing it recently, but again it wasnt an issue when all the movies were about men.
@@annieswirl My point of "you notice it now but not when everything was about men" is just something to consider - not a jab or accusation. Its not bad that you notice it, but why do you? Maybe because the representation was lacking before. In the case of Marvel specifically though, I havent been keeping up but i have heard theyve been overdoing it.
Idk if I was imagining it or not but Margo started looking more human as time went on and I liked the subtlety of it a bit
100% I think that was definitely on purpose. You can tell they start going lighter with the make up and filters and they start showing more of margot the person and not margot the barbie
I think it's most obvious in her hair. It's like her perfect blowout was slowly deflating and that doesn't happen for the dolls. Unless you brush them out, the hair stays big.
For sure. You start to see more of fine lines and skin texture. Then at the end, you can tell that her foundation is slightly mismatched. I loved that detail
Fun fact - they had two versions of her costume too. Once she started looking more human, her dress also lost some of the colourfulness and got more dull.
The angles of the cameras, the filters. Etc. It was done on purpose
My thought with the whole "play you a song by the bonfire with 10 other couples around and then Barbie leaves me for another Ken" is that each Ken is emotionally attached to one Barbie, so even if you get a new Barbie she's not as good since you don't care for her in the same way and therefore you're still offended by Barbie going to another Ken
Also, I think there’s a specific Ken assigned to each Barbie. Like when weird Barbie says “that Ken of yours”
Exactly
There's also the scene after Ken (Ryan) and Barbie (Margot) talk where one Ken (Ncuti Gatwa) mentions something about missing *his* friend Barbie (Emma Mackey).
I thing that's right but also not true? Like, Ken (Simu Liu) was constantly fighting against Ken (Ryan) for Barbie's (Margot) attention. So did Stereotypical Barbie had two Kens?
I think you’re so right, but less that each Barbie has one assigned Ken and moreso that the one they were trying to woo was ignoring them, so even if they did get a replacement Barbie, they’re distracted by the hurt of being ignored by the Barbie they originally had/the jealousy of themselves being replaced by another Ken.
I think the ending didn't hit you as emotionally because it was centered more around girlhood, which is something you as a man can't really understand. The clips showed various women in places and gatherings that mirror a lot of our own experiences and made it feel like we were almost watching ourselves. As little girls who played with Barbies, we grew up idolizing her and wanting to be "perfect" in every way--just like her. So to see Barbie here, watch those memories that Ruth showed her of OUR experiences just being girls, and her want to be like US, felt really validating in a way. Ruth told her to feel as she watched the memories, and thats exactly what Barbie did. The clips of women experiencing things through all stages of life, with all their simplicity, perfectly captured the essence of girlhood. Seeing Barbie be brought to tears by something we often consider ordinary and choose that over Barbie Land, not only wrecked me (and some other women I know) emotionally, but was incredibly beautiful.
I don’t think it’s that fair to say “he didn’t get it because he’s a man” because it’s basically underminding the opinion of the male viewers, also I’m a 21 y/o gal and it didn’t hit me emotionally (mostly because I couldn’t take this movie seriously)
@@lauracerqueiramachado8979they can have an opinion on it but it’s just common sense that they won’t connect to it the same way women will because it’s made to represent womanhood, not manhood
@@lauracerqueiramachado8979it’s not undermining male viewers just objectively it was targeted for women and he wouldn’t understand the experience of women which is why he wouldn’t get it like it’s not that hard to understand
@@bethD-ld8ld Well she is a girl and she said it did not hit her the same lol
beautifully said, best barbie commentary i've read
I really liked the bench interaction, Barbie has never seen someone that’s old, she’s never seen someone with “imperfections” but she sees this woman and she thinks she’s beautiful. It ties into the whole finding the beauty in her fears of imperfection and a contrast to how scared she was of change in the beginning
What I understood about the bench scene was that that woman, the old woman knew she was beautiful because she played with barbies and took that -- the message of being perfect no matter what -- to the heart. While the other generation (the teen's) had another view on the barbie message
The older woman IS Barbie. She's the actual daughter of the creator, and the doll is named after her.
@@pyjamallama2088 No she isn't, she's called Ann Roth who is a legendary Costume Designer in Hollywood. Greta needed someone who was older to play the part and decided to go for one of her older friends instead of going with Barbara Handler.
I actually really liked the narrator joke. Came literally out of nowhere. Made everyone of our friendgroup in theater laugh
same I actually laughed - which caught me so off guard
Do you mean the joke where the narrator said about not casting Margot Robbie to prove a point about being good looking? That was my favourite joke in the movie
Same!
I didn’t like the breaking of the fourth wall it felt really out of nowhere
when i saw the movie in theater just about everyone in the theater laughed
Something about two women of different ages saying “your beautiful.” And “I know” was really touching to me. It was transcendent beauty that touched on what it’s like to be a women, cutting through how we’re taught to hate ourselves and are pit against each other since childhood.
This moment had me in tears in the theater, wondering how long it had been since a stranger had complimented her.
This. And Barbie saw her future in her. She saw the life of human that has lived. That’s showing age on her face and the fact that she knows she’s beautiful just solidifies that humanity and the human experience is beautiful.
@@Jasmine_U_Bit is indeed rare for people to see the beauty in aging. We try so hard to look young forever, without realizing that it is natural and normal, and all that lives will someday age and die. It's not an ugly thing at all, but there is a big stigma still
What I like too is the shot after when the woman is alone at the bus stop. Even though she seemed so self-assured in the moment, you can see that it did really affect her. It makes you realize no one has probably said those words to her in a long time. A good reminder to do that with loved ones in our lives.
ya same in tht scene what they said hit me so deep cause as women aging is seen as such a horrible thing its a taboo really for a women to age i feel like especially when almost everyone is using fillers and botox to prevent aesthetic aspect of aging i loved that scene of embracing aging which is a normal human thing everyone has to go thru and should not be so looked down upon and her realizing how non perfect thing can be so beautiful if u just embrace it that moment was what made me realize that she has desire for human life.
This movie was clearly for the girlies because I cried at least 6 times throughout the movie. As a female, it just hits different and that’s the point
First time watching it, I cried 3 minutes in
I'm a man and cry everytime i watch this movie, i have a mom too, and the final scene just moves me...
Girl I watched it for the first time today and BAWLED
I disagree, Ken was the best character by far and had majority of the songs.
Wtf
Dylan being that close to guessing who Ruth was but still missing it, is classic 'theories with Dylan' 😂
same with America (the mom) and the daughter 😂
@@davidao2551He was so disappointed when he learned she didn't die from a medical condition! xD
I need a "theories with dylan" supercut now
dylan not wearing pink for this commentary is a crime
911!
he misdirected us. and went for the Oppenheimer color scheme. idk if you know "Pitch Meetings" by Ryan George, but he did the same for the pitch meeting of Barbenheimer.
Not even the lights! *gasp*
@@kaygafane ah makes sense now it was a misdirect!!!
maybe he’s wearing his pink shorts
It's funny watching the different reactions people who never played with barbies have to the opening scenes, 'cause to us, they make SO MUCH sense.
I couldn't contain my laughter when I first saw the opening sequences. The air flips, dance offs, and final fight chaos were all how I played with my dolls and GI Joes and whatever random crap I had. My inner child felt so seen. xD
I saw this with a friend of mine and my partner. There were so many references he didn't get which my friend and I giggled like fiends to, like the cellulite and BBC Pride and Prejudice reference.
Well, I always liked her animated movies/series better than her dolls ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Right? When I got my first barbie, my life was changed forever. She could literally do anything.
YES! his questions about the walls... i was like "well, dylan for sure never played with barbies"
i've never wanted to girlsplain a movie more in my life
LMAO so relatable
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the narrator part about margot robbie being attractive was SO funny to me lol it was one of my favorite parts.. i like how they did it tbh
Right?! The whole cinema laughed at that part when I went to watch it.
Same. I don't really get the critique about it being out of place?? She narrates the beginning and we hear her at the end, her having a line in between wasn't bad or out of que? Idk. It seems like a joke that was made in post, which makes it funnier imaging them watching Margot Robbie go, "I'm not pretty anymore!" and them then going "lets get one more joke about the glaringly obvious." The whole movie is absurd. It's a very much not real DOLL going out into the real world. But the narrator making a joke was out of place??? 😂 idk.
THIS, totally this!
BUT I have a feeling that this was lost, in the sense of it being viewed at home. versus being in a movie theater and having that experience.
and of course it being a commentary.. so although Dylan's analyzing it and delving deep in it; he's not really viewing it in the same way, a regular person going to the movies would.
So I could see how he'd have that opinion, in this surrounding.
But yes, I also was very entertained by it and laughed along the entire crowd.
@@EloiseG233
Same
Same, I enjoyed the juxtaposition of the narrator randomly popping in. In my mind it showed us that the movie was self aware and pocked fun at the ‘hypocrisy’ is the messaging.
I'm 61, and the bench scene is one of the most beautiful scenes I've ever seen in a movie. I love it. It made me cry. People don't see the beauty in older women. We just get dismissed.
You're beautiful, I'm sure! ❤
yes and that was exactly the point being made. since the stigma related to women aging was never a concept in barbieland; margot's barbie was never taught to view aging negatively and so all she saw was a woman, not an old woman, just a beautiful one.
one of my favorite things about this movie is that Barbie sees the beauty in all women, regardless of age, weight, skin color, hair type, none of that matters to her. she’s “stereotypical barbie” outwardly, but inwardly she’s so much more accepting and compassionate than people believe someone that looks like her could be.
@@HarleenKaur-dd5hzthat’s such a great insight, i knew what the scene was communicating but couldn’t figure out how to put it into words. this is such a wonderful way to explain it!
@@sierramobley8962 just like Elle Woods
I actually loved the narrator break, cuz hearing the entire theatre laugh out loud at tht joke was hilarious and lowkey uniting, saw this in a theatre packed with mostly women and some men, all of us wearing pink. It was a blast to be so excited and pumped for a movie, kind of reminded me of how my parents said going to the theatres was a party in itself, it was such a cool moment to be a part of
This is exactly it, I did not know how to namr the emotin after watching Babrbie in cinema, but this is it. It was celebration and fun time with strangers and it is is a long time when I felt so connected to humanity and people and it felt so good watching this in cinema.
and this narrator is omnipresent too so his complaint didn’t make much sense anyway because she can pop in literally at any time
I saw this movie 4 times (I swear not because obsession, just because I had 4 different occasions and groups I saw it with). Every time was so fun because of the energy of the people
@@96grunge I liked the break, I thought it was funny, but I get what he means cuz I had a similar reaction too. It's such a long time between when the narrator comes in, you kinda forget about her. It just feels random. My guess is that there were other narrator moments in the script that got cut
It's definitely in there for the theater goers, I can see how it doesn't really work when you're alone
Like so many other people are saying, I was crying in the cinema during both “quiet” scenes. Just watching it felt so realistic and raw. Just the beauty of life without expectations or stereotypes or anything like that and wanting that so badly.
I was crying before I even realized it or understood why. It really touches something that most if not all women experience, to the point that you stop paying conscious attention to it.
@@vanyadollysame i just bawled my eyes out when the montage came.
I got a slightly different message from Barbie wanting to be human. I feel like this is a metaphor for how many women feel. We always have to be perfect and meet so many expectations, so wanting to become real is like wanting to live as yourself and enjoy life instead of trying to meet all this expectations, or being what society says we should be. It shows that we also feel like toys, when we are objectified, sexualized, when our feelings are dismissed. The song What I was made for translated perfectly how we feel lost when we don’t feel enough while trying to be the perfect woman society expects us to be.
this makes so much sense!
i got the same message from the movie, which is why the online discourse has confused me so much. people online are twisting of the focus onto ken when to understand the commentary about ken, you first have to understand the pressure that barbie is under and how that translates to the struggles of women in the real world. yes, he is 'kenough', but that came from an understanding found by the barbies that you don't have to be anything or meet any of the crazy expectations (especially those imposed on women) to be perfectly human. i'm so glad i found someone else who got the same message
This! She is literally called Stereotypical Barbie and she goes on a journey to become just Barbie, flawed and very human.
Do you know that is what every human goes thru, right?
i also feel like it should be said that the feelings of being inadequate and wanting to be human are often experienced together by minorities and people who are separated from the perceived majority (pushing one form of experience while silencing and oppressing others). like ive never felt less human than when i think about how i dont meet certain standards or expectations or that im somehow “wrong”; i very much experience that alienation together.
the ending is not about her chasing something she's missing out on, but about finding a place in the world once you lose the innocence of girlhood. it's growing up and coming to terms with that and finding the beauty within the loss of childhood. so it's not this omg i want to be human, but a "i guess this is where i fit in now" which is quite relatable as a woman
I didn’t realize Barbieland was childhood and the real world was adulthood. That makes sense. Thank you for explaining that :)
Not saying your interpretation is wrong (I haven’t googled which is the right one) but I feel like this just highlights Dylan’s point about the movie being too vague about its plot. Not even I came to this conclusion and many others didn’t either. I do like that explanation better than some others tho.
I feel like it’s vague because though most women have a lot of the same experiences, the idea of “humanity “ is different for everyone. Like as a black woman, just to be treat like a regular human in the small town I live in, was something I related with, while some of my friends saw something different. Though I can see the want for something specific. But much like the idea that Barbie can be anything, a vague ending can (for the most part) be for anyone.
@@KingAmasawa I feel like this idea gets shot down with the “woman have it hard” speech 3/4 of the way through. They list a bunch of super specific things that are supposed to apply to every woman and I can’t think of a single person who any of that would apply to because of their gender in real life.
@@shadamyandsonamylover Clearly the point of that scene went over your head. Of course you've never met a person it would apply to because that person doesn't exist. The mom is describing the expectations that are placed on women from an early age, to be this perfect, self-aware, gracious woman that does no wrong. Even if you don't have those same expectations for women, those expectations do exist and we do feel them. Maybe not exactly in the way described, but the essence of what was said is universal.
no way Dylan thought for even a split second that a pregnant Barbie doll where children reach inside to take out the newborn was a good idea lmfao
Well the thing is pregnant Midge had a removable belly with a baby inside, you could like take it out and make her hold her baby, and some people say she wasn’t discontinued because she was weird or because children didn’t like her, it happened because the parents were pissed by the possibility that she would give their kids an idea of where babies really come from
@@lauracerqueiramachado8979i read that and some people thought it was promoting teen pregnancy
and because her original doll didn't have a wedding ring lmao they were really freaked out about that@@lauracerqueiramachado8979
I had the doll and really liked her.
Lol ironically doctors will reach to remove babies for c-sections so it’s not far off from reality. And kids eventually learn how babies are conceived, it’s the parents who make it weird like saying that babies are delivered by storks 😅
The part where the narrator says, "Note to the film makers Margot Robbie is the..." was my favorite line in the whole movie it was incredibly funny and is so relatable.
I honestly found it dumb
Same
It defeats the point the movie was trying to make tho. Like "oh if u wanna portray insecurity then this extremely beautiful actress is probably not the one because she's too beautiful to worry about her looks" it's just unnecessary
@@swagiliciousmf This is even more true when you consider the huge sums of money that successful women in the entertainment industry pay to appear ageless, or to age in the right ways, or even to obtain more palatable features as they age (since some features aren't as palatable on mature women).
@@kohlinoor exactly this!
When you said the quiet moments should have "delved into the beauty and fragility of life that Barbie never experienced" that, to me is exactly what happens in those moments and the ones that greatly moved me. The bench scene with the elderly woman, Barbie is seeing a physical appearance she's never seen before. There's no elderly, no wrinkles in Barbieland, yet she finds beauty in this woman. And she turns back to look at her, here where I think starts her desire to be human. And the woman saying "I know it" instead of "thanks" is perfect because in Barbieland, none of the Barbies every say "thank you" or diminish any compliment because they know their worth and beauty.
I also think the scene with Barbie and Ruth has so much importance and nuanced meaning about being a woman, and being human with Barbie saying "I normally don't look like this" and Ruth telling her she looks perfect.
I love you and I hope both sides of your pillow are cool. Oh mygod did the scenes of just appreciating age and emotions make me weep openly in the cinema
Yes! These emotional moments hit me so hard and even just whilst they were being shown in the background while Dylan was talking I started crying all over again thinking about it all
@@Brooke-un9eh same! The ending scene with the montage always makes me weep
This exactly!!!
@@Brooke-un9ehme too
i love how dylan keeps stopping to explain the plot as if we haven't all seen this movie already and have been waiting for him to catch up. bless him x
I saw it in July or august and since then I've been waiting for him to AT LEAST mention the movie but I just assumed it wasn't on his radar, then the ooga booga video came out and my questions were answered
I did not watch hahaha
I haven't 😂😂I wanted to watch it before he posted the commentary but I didn't think he'd post it so soon. And I couldn't hear myself
I wasnt planning on ever watching the movie but i usually watch whatever commentary he posts and sometimes if there's a movie idk about or one im not sure I'll want to watch, I'll watch and see what other ppl say about it and if seeing some scenes makes me want to watch it then i will.
I haven’t watched it lmao
i loved watching barbie in the cinema, everyone wearing pink and all women equally being able to relate to both the funny and the sad parts was so fun
everyone wearing pink? I wore my silver jacket with a big scorpion on the back and held a toothpick in my mouth, than you very much
@@helvete_ingres4717 no one cares
@@helvete_ingres4717you're just bitter because no one told you "hi Barbie!"
@@bbnagyu7704 u clearly do else why @ me so you're admitting you are a 'no one'. whereas i in contrast am a real hero and a real human bean. u mad?
@@malena6539 i'm still, as they say, kenough. when ken puts on the second pair of sunglasses 😎😎 I stand up in the theatre and say - he is literally me
That conference part was actually pretty smart according to me. Something that could be done in 30 seconds but takes 3 minutes and the whispering to reach the top actually felt like an indirect commentary of how the corporate world works. Always following the heirarchy and wasting a lot of time.
Reminded me of a scene from Monty Python & The Life of Brian when The People's Front of Judea finally realize they have spent too much time on words instead of actions, and wasted too much time talking about what they're going to do rather than doing it... which, of course, "calls for immediate discussion."
“You are not the sum of your expectations, you just are” is actual poetry Dylan. Absolutely gorgeous
i was like ok writer Dylan
I feel like the daughters arc was kind of rounded in a more subtle way. The more obvious is how she becomes supportive of barbie through the film and heals her relationship with her mum slightly but I’d also like to talk about the costumes. As girls we are often made to feel as if liking pink is embarrassing or being feminine is cringey etc, ESPECIALLY when you’re a teenager. So seeing how her outfits change from the first scene where she’s rude to barbie and she’s wearing all black to the final scene where she is wearing a pink top I felt that was a subtle hint at her becoming more in touch with femininity and kind of realising that it is okay to be girly/like girly things along with seeing the positivity in barbie and understanding her importance as well. Though pink does not necessarily equal girly/femininity … that was just how I personally perceived that :)
Yeah, he seemed to miss that whole thing.
A lot of people missed this. Men, I get, because they can't really relate too much with the whole "no feminine little girl, you're not supposed to like being feminine. Feminine and pink means dumb and overtly sexual to please men. Where's your solidarity to feminism???" that young girls often(myself very much included) go through. But the women not understanding that arc was like girl, how??? Literally look at her outfits in the beginning to the end. Starts off with her wearing darker colors and then she finishes the movie wearing bright and "feminine," colors. I truly don't know how people missed that.
@@rachel5399 yeah!! I felt it was obvious because when I was younger I went through the whole “ew pink” and “I’m not girly” phase because that’s what I thought I had to be to be cool 🤝 but I think the film does make it quite clear that her perspective changed on femininity after being around barbie and seeing how barbies actually feel. I do wonder how women especially missed it, I do understand men not seeing that though haha
The way she reacts to other people (including her posture) is another nice subtle aspect of this. At first she is incredibly defensive and reacts to others' perceived flaws without consideration. Over the course of the film she learns to be more empathetic and less quick to judge. She begins to realise that women existing differently to her is not a threat to the validity of her choices. They don't have to compete, they can exist side by side.
Fully agree
Pregnant barbie was real. The stomach popped off and you took the baby out. Some parents complained that it promoted teen pregnancy, even though Midge had a husband and toddler that were sold seperately. The doll got discontinued. I'm still bitter about it. I wanted one so bad lol
I had a pregnant barbie, but I'm starting to think it was a knock-off as this was like 2006, and mine was brand new. And also not a brunette if I remember correctly
My sister has a pregnant doll it looks like a barbie but its not the original its a rip off
I had one. My mom bought it for me and my sister when she was pregnant with my brother. I was afraid of touching her belly afterwards because I thought it would fall like Midge’s.
@@serotoninseeker2411 Hahahahahahha poor child
I still have mine 🥹🥹
my favourite joke in the whole movie was "ONCE THEY LEARN HOW TO BUILD SIDEWAYS AND NOT JUST UP" coz it caught me so off guard
THIS!!!
Okay but the way Dylan was almost correct about Ruth while knowing nothing prior is pretty cool!
That right there is a professional movie watcher
i thought it was obvious. the way the tone changed from the chase scene to the calm, slow scene. Barbie looking like she recognizes her, and an old lady helping her while "not knowing" her without question... was it not obvious? maybe i too... am a professional movie watcher. guess i learned from the GOD of professional movie watchers.
@@kaygafanehahahah yeah maybe I‘m also a pro movie watcher, it was suuuuuuper obvious
it's mega obvious
It was the most obvious thing in the movie
@@Realmorii yes
I think a lot of the jokes don't hit in the movie or are random or they're saying "beach" instead of beach, same with the "i thought i might stay over tonight, to do what?" scene are all because the barbies and kens are being played with by children and so it's child language and how children expect adults to be like, I think it's actually a really cool way to show how the dolls and kids are connected
It's a brilliant way to show how culture is passed down and how society is just a thing made up of ideas that can be changed, for better or worse. And how we're all just big kids sometimes.
Also because barbie is asexual and doesn’t have a vagina😂
yea but in terms of a movie the "beach off" is supposed to be funny. but its not
in the kindest way this can be said, this is the first male reaction to Barbie that didn't just piss me off and give me that hopeless dread feeling yk? I don't expect every man to have the perspective of a woman, but just the capability to consider the other side of the coin is nice. I've always loved your reactions because you have a good balance of poking fun at things as well as trying to take them for what they were meant to be. good to have you back sir :)
Concur!
Definitely agree because I've seen some horrible reactions from men to this movie but I thought I'd recommend another male commentary that didn't want to make me scream: Reel Rejects. They're great and have become one of my favorite reaction channels over the past few years & I absolutely loved their Barbie reaction. (I don't know if you actually wanted a recommendation but your point definitely struck a cord with me because there's a few Barbie reactions I've watched from men and most of them leave me at least a bit disappointed if not downright horrified)
Yes! Another creator Film Cooper also gave another good review
Omni1Media & ProfessorNoName are both male reactors who reviewed Barbie - very non-toxic. I would highly recommend them both!
Yeah the only one (I'm atoll going through this one so I'm not counting it) I liked was from Badd Medicine
i was kind of surprised to see how disconnected Dylan felt from the "dual messages" and character roundness at the end because to me it felt very complete. i hadn't taken the time to fully develop this thought about it until someone else mentioned it in another comment, but i think a lot of that is related to, as Dylan mentioned, this movie being "for women" in a lot of ways. like the intention is clearly for everyone to laugh and learn from it, but there are just elements to the storytelling that will hit harder and work better for women because they draw on our experience in the real world and communicate in a way that we communicate with each other. those moments are quiet and eye contact were crystal clear for me, and i honestly hadn't thought that maybe they wouldn't be for men until i watched Dylan comment on them with that perspective of dissatisfaction. also, i think barbie's character arc and journey to both self-acceptance and desire for humanity are much more interconnected than Dylan gave them credit for, or maybe that's another area where the perception is just less clear for some groups, idk. i think her acceptance of herself and her feelings in all their complexity is what drew her to the real world because now that she has this more nuanced and self-reflective perspective it feels like going backwards to just return to the "everyday is perfect" life in barbieland. her eyes have been opened to a whole life of learning, growing, and emotions that she didn't even have any point of reference for before, so her newly accepted self longs for more of that and no longer belongs in the plastic, unevolving world where she once thrived as stereotypical barbie.
I understood the ending from a metaphoric point of view. Barbie represents a girl going through puberty: you may become sad about the realities of growing up but once you lose that innocence you can’t go back. In Margot’s sad smile when she is celebrating with the other Barbies she conveys that feeling. Greta Gerwig took inspiration from Reviving Ophelia, which describes how girls become insecure when they hit puberty because of the patriarchy.
This is a really interesting perspective
She went through nothing, you’re reaching
A character is supposed to reflect on things that challenge them throughout the film, by the end they’re supposed to be completely different….she’s exactly the same and wants change for….reasons
This isn’t deep, it’s not even surfaced
That’s beautiful, but still that decision kind of came out of nowhere, Barbie spent just a few hours in the real world and most of her experiences there were unpleasant for her, what made her choose to stay there for good? Why did she make such a point to get Barbieland back to the way it was if she wasn’t even going to stay there? Why didn’t Ken go as well (he had many more reasons to want to live in the real world than her)?
That’s a very broad argument, lots of people are insecure for various reasons. Patriarchy isn’t one of them.
I thought the change was in that in the beginning of the movie Barbie thinks that the real world is a better place because of her, but when she realizes that she didn’t have the effect she thought in the real world then she chooses to be a human who can create her own impact in the world rather than being a representation of an idea that didn’t reach the potential she thought she had in the beginning.
Dylan, your theory about a young girl losing her mom so the doll comes into the real world and becomes a mother figure already exists! It’s called Life Size starring Tyra Banks as the “Barbie” doll and Lindsey Lohan playing the girl!
As soon as Dylan mentioned his theory, I thought about "Life Size" immediately. Its like a childhood fever dream.
Yes!
I loooooove that movie 🥲
petition for him to watch Life Size!!
i loved that movie as a kid!!!
I think the ending made sense because Barbie's journey is more about self-awareness than self-acceptance (she's the definition of female "perfection" so she isn't battling the self-doubt other women are made to feel) . Her eyes get opened to the complexity, nuance, and often depressing reality of humanity. Once she becomes truly aware, she can't go back to living in the safe illusion of Barbieland.
Thanks for another fun commentary Dylan!!
yeahhh, totally agree with that
yess
Also, she chooses reality over perfection. She will keep her cellulite and thoughts about death, get older, further and further away from the ideal, the fantasy. The two conflicts are two sides of the same coin.
exactly!
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20:52 I feel it’s important to note the contrasting dynamics when the Barbies and the Kens are in power. When the Barbies rule Barbie Land, the Kens are simply not the focus; they are benevolently ignored but not mistreated or oppressed. The Barbies do not abuse the Kens or force them into servitude; they just aren't particularly interested in them. However, when the Kens take over, they brainwash the Barbies and strip them of their rights, displacing them and forcing them into servitude. The Barbies are compelled to provide attention and cater to the Kens' demands, like serving "brewskis." Barbie doesn't hate Ken; she just doesn't love him. This stark contrast highlights the different ways power is exercised and experienced by the genders in Barbie Land.
Even in the end, Barbie apologizes to Ken, despite his attempts to strip the Barbies of their rights and establish a patriarchy. She tells him he is his own person and it becomes her "duty" to remind him of this, highlighting the movie's theme of self-identity and mutual respect. This moment also underscores the societal expectation that women are often held responsible for both their own actions and those of men. Barbie apologizes for leading Ken on, while Ken never acknowledges the harm he caused by stealing her house, brainwashing her friends, or forcing her into servitude. Barbie's role in picking Ken back up, despite the pain he caused her, reflects the troubling norm where women are expected to provide emotional support even at their own expense.
When Ruth said Barbie is "perfect" the way she is, also implies that Barbie's feelings about everything basically, are okay and normal too, and that imperfections are what makes something perfect.
For the Matchbox 20 Beach Scene, the reason they aren't placated is because each Ken doesn't get THEIR Barbie. Each Barbie has their own, separate Ken that comes with that set. By switching places, no Ken is going to be placated because no Ken is getting the attention of their specific Barbie. As the narrator said originally, "Ken only has a good day if Barbie looks at him." Each individual Ken's existence is devoted to his Barbie's attention, not some other Barbie's attention.
My only issue with that scene was how they worked it out with mermaid Barbie?
Also some of the Kens are left alone.
That makes sense except for Simu Liu’s Ken also wants the attention of Margo’s Barbie so how does that fit into this? Is he a Ken without a Barbie?
@@psychedelicyeti6053 they didn’t I guess
31:54 I get where you're coming from Dylan, however, the scene is not just about Ken. It's also a joke about how women often times end up comforting men because they are sad about making mistakes. And Ken crying about the consequences of his actions to Barbie instead of actually apologyzing and owning up to his mistakes is sadly very accurate but therefore funny. So personally I didn't have a problem with them not taking this scene serioulsy.
I agree. I find it interesting to hear the reactions of men who genuinely seem to like the movie, because even though they "get it", the things they don't like always seem to be things that I thought were the main point.
There weren't 2 conflated arcs for Barbie, it was just one. She wasn't looking for acceptance + becoming human, she was just going on the same journey all women struggle with to claim their own womanhood instead of just living the role we are born into. the way the quiet scenes were filmed specifically read as longing, confusion, and uncertainty about how she fits in with the world around her (not insecurity about not being good enough). ken's arc wasn't given that serious an ending, because it wasn't about him, it was about her and her navigating compassion for men vs not owing them anything. The logical problem with the guitar jealousy scene isn't illogical for women because that's a lived experience for us. I even had a bunch of guy friends who said the Barbieland clutter and visuals went too far/wasn't great, but what they miss is that all those things triggered visceral memories and reactions from any little girl that grew up with Barbie.
I feel like, for all the movie was clearly intended to be approachable for almost all audiences, it was just ultimately made for women who grew up with Barbie, and if you aren't one of those women, you are just aren't going to get as much out of it. And that is pretty uncommon imo.
I feel like Barbie owed Ken more of an apology ... which she did do which redeemed her. and she should have comforted him. this is literally the first time she had ever shown him any care. which is what was helping make her more human. she needed to show him care. the Kens didn't even have homes and she never thought about that before. never noticing she was hurting someone. vs at the end where she notices the pain she caused and needed to help him. its integral to Barbie's growth.
there was actually 0 consequences to his actions. In fact at the end its a good thing that he did what he did because it caused the other barbies to slowly start treating the Kens better. even at the end the Narrator stated so.
Kens growth just needed to happen quickly(movie time) and he has been the thing to break up serious moments so even for his own moment. I had np for it having humor because i thought it fit the character and not because of your take that he was just a wining person who just made mistakes. Since Barbie made all the mistakes.
this i think is why Barbie land mirrors the real world and the Kens fighting for some power and fighting to be seen is supposed to mirror women in the rl fighting for those things ... and the barbies mirror the men. The Kens are even more emotional and actually care but none of the Barbie's have that.
rewatch and instead think of the Kens as women and it makes more sense... even his dramatic crying and leaving to cry on his bed
It wasn't funny to me, I liked how Barbie was comforting Ken, he might not have felt those emotions before, or didn't know why he did certain things or felt embarrassed, it takes time to own up to things and apologize and take accountability, I wouldn't expect someone to do that right away as they might not have known how to do it, are still processing their emotions, etc. The fact that barbie comforted him, was beautiful to me as she helped him get out of selfishness, that's not wrong. Sometimes having someone to help us can be very beneficial.
It doesn't really work since they flipped the gender roles. The scene wants to have the emotional association of irl woman having to go through that struggle of doing all the emotional labor for men when they deserve the apology, but in practice thats what Barbie has been doing to Ken instead.
With how Barbieland is set up, he's the disenfranchised group (no house, no identity outside of Barbie until the end, no representation in government) that has been wronged by her by how she took his support for granted and honestly never questioned how the system was treating him. After all, the only reason the patriarchy was appealing to Ken was not for the same reasons it's appealing to men irl, it was because Barbieland has systemic inequality that puts the Kens at the bottom as a byproduct of the flipped gender roles, ergo they go too far when another system is introduced that gives them agency over their lives even if its at the Barbies expense.
Which does confuse me for why we were supposed to cheer for the Barbies like... they don't deserve to be shoved into misogynistic positions, but we're supposed to cheer for the actual disfranchised group of the Kens getting reset to basically 0? I don't think this movie thought through the implications of just flipping the gender roles in Barbieland, it really fucks with the message.
@@gallifreyanrefugee7982barbie WASNT made for ken. she doesn’t need to apologize for anything.
“the way that they’re stereotyping men in this movie is so crude… and accurate” 😭😭😭 23:52
30:50 i'd actually argue otherwise. maybe it's because i'm a therapist, but i was always taught that silence is powerful. i think it's the silent moments of beauty/observation that creep up on barbie and eventually hit her, just like these kinds of realizations hit us all slowly in real life. i think she felt inadequate because she was trying to be something she didn't think she could be. she isn't a human, but she also was outgrowing what it was to be a doll. so, eventually, she makes a choice. that montage was also kind of ruth showing her the beauty and pain of being human.
That's actually true and you said it beautifully
I love the Barbie movie. At the start, I think maybe you didn't realise how common it is for little girls to treat their dolls like that. Dolls have seen some things. The silences were so impactful in the cinema, you could just feel everyone there was so invested and present. The narrator saying Margot Robbie was the wrong person to cast for that point made everyone laugh because it's true. It didn't feel out of place in the moment; I'm sure most women were thinking along those lines as soon as Barbie said it, so it was nice to have that acknowledgement of it. And as for the daughter, her change is subtle, but I noticed it most as a visual one, because she goes from wearing all black, to Barbieland where she ends up in all pink and in the end she's wearing a pink top, which shows how she's changed.
As a girl, I have never once treated my dolls like that. It's kinda barbaric. Especially dolls that can shatter, I can't imagine anyone would ever do that 😂
@baby_doll_eyes I personally only ever played with plastic dolls since ones that can shatter are a safety hazard. But it's definitely common for girls to be rough with dolls. But of course, not all girls were or are. But weird Barbies are a thing for a reason.
The daughter also was the reason they went back to "save Barbie," as she put it. The daughter showed a new supportive perspective of her mom as well. They had a bonding moment followed by that handshake hair flip.
Yes i feel like some moments were lost on him because they were more impactful in the theater perhaps. All the moments he calls out for being unfunny or strange had me and my girlfriends crying or crying laughing.
I think the deep moments of womanhood in this movie is what made you, Dylan, feel as though the characters weren’t fleshed out. They were just in a much deeper way that people who have experienced those thoughts and emotions that come with womanhood can understand and relate to a lot better. The scenes of the daughter growing up were so clear to me as a girl becoming a teenager and distancing herself from her mom because I’ve had that same experience and though I haven’t experienced it in the opposite direction as a mom, seeing those scenes made me think of my own mom and how she must have felt while I pushed her and all the “silly” girly things i used to love away. That’s what made the mother daughter story so impactful by the end. They went through something that showed them both how much they mattered to one another as women in this world. Barbie’s scenes of seeing the real world is relatable in the way that, as we grow up, this world becomes more and more apparent to us as somewhere we have to struggle to be heard and seen. Seeing her look around at our world and look over at the older woman and think that she is beautiful is a uniquely womanly experience. We are told by so many men and women who have been told by men what beautiful is and how we can change this or that to fit their idea of beauty and often that idea includes youth and size. That old lady on the bench was in no way beautiful by any traditional definition but to Barbie she represents a life of experiences as a woman in the real world and that is beautiful to Barbie. Additionally, her chats with Ruth are charged with emotion. At the Mattel office, their conversation is almost nonexistent but you can just see by the way Ruth is looking at Barbie her exact thoughts. To me, she’s thinking about her purpose in making Barbie and how the brand has evolved. She’s thinking about what Barbie represents. When they talk at the end of the movie Ruth sees Barbie as a real, true woman. She gives her the beautiful memories of other women and it sparks those new genuine emotions Barbie has and it’s that which makes her human. Basically, other women build the foundations of other women. It was really powerful and I really don’t think that’s something you can understand as someone who hasn’t had experience being a woman, ya know.
@@soandso5058 If everyone is an individual with individual experiences, how is she wrong? That's OP's individual experience and she's suggesting the Dylan didn't see it because he cannot relate to it.
Oh, i just realized that you're the same person as before. Eh, i'll still post this comment bc I think I'm right lol
@@soandso5058 guess what… everyone got something different from this movie. All in all it’s a movie aimed at woman empowerment so sorry if i don’t really think i’m wrong for getting a woman empowerment message. I understand that’s not the message everyone got but my friend group of mostly women have talked about this movie and all came away with pretty similar messages to what I got out of it. I won’t say you’re wrong either though. The beauty of art comes from the eyes of the beholder. I can’t really tell if you liked the movie or not but if you did then the message you got seems unique and important to you and if you didn’t really like it then hopefully you can find something in that of why it wasn’t the movie for you and learn something from that.
As a woman I related a lot more to ken than I did to any barbie. Her character was too cookie cutter and uninspired. And the real woman's speech was honestly unbearable to sit through with how it slaps you in the face. The idea that the mother character brings about women not needing to be this extraordinary people to have worth is great but that speech took all the nuance out of it.
@@maya-drinks-dp Actually, I think the final (nuanced) message was that for a true healthy society both genders need to be empowered. So no, it wasn't about women empowerment, it was about human empowerment, which is why they joked about the inadequacy of the final order of the barbie world, and Ruth talks of humans in her final speech, not women.
I think you are right, it probably just resonates with women more because we are usually second class citizens. Getting better through the years but it depends from country to country, so the empowerment message will hit women more (maybe not you, but women in general). Also is funny you relate to Ken more bc he is suppose to represent women roles in our society, so it makes a lot of sense you did. @@franciscasilva8406
dylan making fun of the fact that he knows he didn’t know the ruth lore and being so close is hilarious i would’ve loved to see his reaction to finding out
I actually loved the narrator breaking in unexpectedly. The world was falling apart and suddenly the reassuring tones of Helen Mirren let you know that it's not all bad 😊
Also it was my second favorite joke in the entire movie
But she didn't say that. She butted in to remind us that Margot Robbie is prettier than the rest of us!
Same! And it was such a good like too that I can easily excuse it.
and i like it cause the joke is a play on how plenty people, often youtubers, say that during a scene where a beautiful woman has to break down because she isn’t pretty enough it doesnt work because that actress is already miles more gorgeous than the average woman. i’ve always found that complaint stupid in the first place (like individually you can look your best *and* your worst, regardless of other people) so seeing them make fun of it by having the narrator go like that was funny. also that incredibly random break from the movie got the most laughs from my theatre bc it was so absurd to do at an emotional point so i think it’s just a matter of preference.
Me too!! I watched it in theatres and there was audible laughter from a lot of viewers. I guess it's just one of those things that not everyone enjoys (I mean personally I dislike narration so was annoyed at first but idk the little joke just made everything feel better).
Even if it’s not Monday, know that you are Kenough Dylan
It's Monday for me today, what country are you from?
Friday 💀
@@zerere_ what planet are you from? 👁👄👁
@@zerere_3 days ahead....????
It is monday
Dylan is always right
I love how Dylan instantly says he’s not going deep into the social commentary stuff because he’s scared of another hush incident
Yeah true, it’s smart cus most men can’t truly understand/relate to these deep feminism topics so it’s best he doesn’t state opinions on it online
@@gamech1ck681and if he did have reasonable critiques, he’d most likely just get hated on for it more
I don't think it's fair to say he's "scared". I think it's more like he's just tired of having to constantly defend himself against people who don't matter.
@@growingupwithdisney no, he made some reasonable critiques throughout this movie lmao
@@gamech1ck681☠️🤣
Nah man, i cried when i seen the bench scene. It was just something you had to feel and i think it was perfect the way it was.
Dylan, it's about time you watch the OLD BARBIE MOVIES. yes. the animated ones. pretty pretty please.
edit : i didn't expect many ppl would like this & reply. and yes i know very well how Dylan HATES recommendation. but imma do it anyway sorry not sorry ❤️
That would be great😭
Dylan hates recommendations. Now he's not gonna watch them 😭😭😭
@@moteniolaaina4173 oh..we uh were actually saying…how much we would haaaate if he reacted to those 🫢🫢 oh noo pls don’t react to the animated Barbie movie series…🫢👀nooo
its not a recommendation, its a demand@@moteniolaaina4173
these would go so hard
"Ideas live forever. Humans not so much."
That line is going to be iconic.
for once i actually have to disagree with you Dylan. the "quiet" scenes were actually some of my favorites. instead of throwing out jokes or lines like they did during the whole movie, they cut out the unnecessary dialog and let the scene speak for itself. so much is being said in the eye contact between Barbie and Ruth, and the music mixed with the nostalgic scenes is absolutely beautiful. the beauty of the film together with the message makes it magical, just like barbie.
Exactly! The quietness felt extremely purposeful to me, like it was showcasing the quiet beauty of life.
I agree with the bench scene, but not with the tea scene. It put me off the "danger" of the previous chasing scene. I was like: how long are they going to talk while a bunch of guys are looking for Barbie hahaha. Also, for me, a lot of the scenes should have been a little bit shorter, including silence scenes. But I think that Dylan's point is that because of the duality of the final message, many scenes seem wasted. For instance, the tea cup scene represents that moment of vulnerability where Barbie needs some guidance to boost up her self-confidence. But, that moment could have been used to reflect in Barbie's desire to become human, which wasn't really brought up until the movie's end. Did anybody else think that Barbie wanted to be human before the final part of the movie? I genuinely thought that she was going to live with what she'd learned in Barbieland as the other Barbies were going to do. Moreover, we didn't know that it was possible for dolls to become human 😂. I think that what the writers wanted was to quite literally humanize Barbie, and, subsequently, womanhood. But, in my opinion, it is not driven by the story or by the characters. It is more of a external than internal driver of the story.
@@sage6861 i totally agree!
@@gustavomarquez4291 some scenes could’ve been shorter, but after the chasing scene, they took a break from the comedy and focused on Barbie and Ruth and this interaction. They were there in such an everyday way, it felt almost familiar and normal, and it showcased a more human Barbie, not the one they wanted to shut in a box just a few minutes before. It also showed Barbie learning from Ruth, how to sit or how to drink tea. They influenced each other. And I love that they didn’t rush that scene, and the importance of it.
@@madeleineh.h9027Yeah, maybe. I think that you could have done the break of comedy better if they did it after the chase scene. Or if Ruth had helped with it. But, well, I think that you didn't read my edited response hahaha. I think that that scene represents a moment of vulnerability as you've pointed out. However, the introduction of Ruth has everything to do with Barbie becoming human, and that is not brought up in any part of their conversation. We don't know that that's even a possibility till the movie's end. I think that that's Dylan's point. For me, the writers wanted to quite literally humanize Barbie and womanhood, so it happens based on the message of the movie instead of a character's motivation.
For anyone who doesn’t already know (because I didn’t for a while) the lady on the bench is Barbara Handler, Ruth Handler’s daughter and part of the inspiration for the barbie doll (I think). That scene when Barbie tells Barbara that she’s beautiful made me SOB because she IS barbie but she’s also human and she’s grown and aged. I don’t know I just love this movie So. Much. And I don’t mean to be rude in any way but I genuinely don’t think men will ever truly understand every part this movie. Also the home video clips when barbie is with Ruth at the end are clips from women that actually worked on the movie
It's actually award winning costume designer Ann Roth :/ sorry
While i agree on some of the arcs feeling unfinished/not fully fleshed out, i think the point of Barbie's was that she's accepting the imperfection that she was insecure about before, and she accepts this by choosing to become human because there is no such thing as imperfection in Barbieland. Her accepting her feelings of inadequacy is intrinsically tied with choosing to stay in the real world, they aren't 2 separate ideas like the video suggests
i agree with ur thoughts on the ending. they should’ve done a montage of her experiencing the real world (grocery shopping, playing with dogs, etc) before she came back to Barbie Land so she would know what it’s like to be human
Yeah, I really couldn't connect to the montage they used. It had a lot of imagery to appeal to a lot of people, but to me that made it less meaningful. Show scenes of the character(s) you're trying to make us care about. We're already feeling emotions for them, grab some b-roll and make us cry!
yessss
I totally agree. I know I as a man don't resonate with the feminist messages of the movie, but I felt like the message about the inherent beauty of life was more meaningful and a lot less shallow than the feminist messaging. But they hugely missed out on how powerful it could have been. Like Dylan said they waste time in the human world with not funny jokes and just in general not very important plot points. Will Ferrell as the CEO and the other bumbling idiots of Matell are not funny and they spend more time on them than they should have. They should have spent the time in the human world with Barbie learning about humanity and actually seeing the beauty of being human. I would lean into the relationship between the mother and the daughter and have her spend time with them and realize that despite the fact that they argue they still love each other which I think would reflect on the human experience well. Life is hard and messy and relationships are hard and messy, but its worth it. Idk I really enjoyed this movie but I felt like it really missed out on being so much more.
@@paddyq3235 yes! they should’ve totally had barbie witness more of the complicated relationship of the mom and daughter since dolls don’t really have moms/kids/families. that would’ve also gave us more development on the mom/daughter relationship too. going along with the “life is precious” theme, she should’ve also witness sad things (people in hospitals, homeless people, people getting fired, etc). it didn’t make sense that she barely experienced anything in the human world but wants to become human. overall, i still enjoyed the movie and all the pink of course :D
Yess I agree with this whole thread. I really enjoyed the movie for what it was, but it felt like the emotional moments and connections were underutilized
this is why I love Dylan's commentary, he actually critiques it from a production side of things as well as appreciating the movie as it is. So much better than normal reaction channels
I heard he is an author of a book as well. From a time traveller from 2056
he’s so wrong all the time though
@@addknees2050about what?
1) The Mattel guy with the broken arm is actually a recurring character in Fleabag and he's really good in that. 2) I feel like the daughter did grew. At the beginning she doesn't seem interested in much, she's distant towards her mom but as the movie goes by, she grew closer to her mom, defended her, empathised with her and was an active member of the crew/plan. 3) Funfact, the woman on the bench is Ann Roth, an Oscar-winning costume designer 4) There was a lot of deleted scenes so I wonder if those endings would felt better with some of those cut scenes...
Finally Dylan posts. It's like I haven't experienced Mondays in weeks
Monday waits for him to upload to begin itself 😌🙏
Fun fact, the scene with Barbie crying on the bench was almost cut out, and it's the most powerful one
I think Mattel itself is so cartoonish in this film because it’s sort of the “in-between” for Barbieland and the real world. They are both creators of and part of Barbie’s existence, right in between being human and idea.
I thought Mattel was cartoonish to highlight how inept the board of men was.
@@andihunter7104Well I think Mattel was cartoonish to circumvent real life valid criticism
I like to say that Ryan played the *heck* out of that character. He danced, he sang, he improvised comedic scenes, he was almost a villain, and then come to a conclusion "kenough". He deserves all the awards for this performance. 👏
I think that a lot of your disconnection to the message/emotions comes down to the silences and the unsaid stuff in scenes that truly is down to the female experience. We didn't need more emphasis on those moments because we innately understood them, so those beats hit so much harder for us than they would for you.
Yes, this is hugely important, thank you!!!
Guess I'm not a female cause I didn't understand them.
@@depressantdrugMe neither, and I'm a woman. I legitimately didn't love this movie, because it didn't even reference the animated Barbie films AND was wayyy too political so it didn't feel fun. Maybe I'm biased, but Greta Gerwig's Little Women was awful too- for similar reasons (strayed far from the OG book AND shoved modern politics into a different time period).
@@yishmoosa1234 Do you, but feminism was invented long before Little Women was originally published.
@@yishmoosa1234 we found the pick me. I hate to break it to you, but literally everything is political. & because it didn't reference the animated Barbie movies from 20 some years ago??? Literally the dumbest critique ever. Maybe if you spent less time being a pick me, and stayed silent, you would understand those scenes some more because they were glaringingly obvious.
Even though Dylan said he was in this for fun, making jokes, and having a good time. He still gave a better review than most people I've seen do this commentary. And that makes me very happy cause most people would tear this movie to shreds saying all the wrong things,but even when Dylan was talking about how the Kens are like real life men he didn't take it too seriously. I really enjoy this commentary(like I do all his videos)
Fun fact: the daughter (Sasha) is based off a Bratz doll. Her friends she sits with at lunch are also the stereotypical Bratz dolls. Which is why she’s so mean to Barbie in the beginning. Barbie and Bratz were rival dolls.
This is really helpful. I think some of the scenes that were meant to pay tribute to other toys, or other movies like 2001: A Space Odyssey might have seemed very strange to people who didn’t get the references. It makes the movie a little disjointed on first viewing.
I get that there is a gap of people that didn't watch Sex Education and two of the actors from that are Barbie/Ken, but Conner Swindles that plays the regular worker dude, while playing Adam in Sex Education completely won me over (I get that there are some that disagree with my sentiment and that is valid). Conner warms my heart. And as a note Conner is a comedic actor, but he's British and if you haven't seen Sex Education I get that someone wouldn't know that.
My friend and I found his scenes the funniest. It’s just him.
british humour also plays a bit differently than american, so i have huge respect for british comedians trying to play off of americans ESPECIALLY if they're doing a not-silly american accent and vice versa. it's just easier to riff off of someone with a similar comedy style and very hard to get comedic tone across in a different accent.
I actually laughed super hard at 'Margot is the wrong person to cast in this part' hahahahha
What made me genuinely cry on Ruth’s speech is the line about how mothers stop in time so their daughters can see how much they have grown.
In my experience (and on the experience of some friends), mothers are not seen as humans when we are younger. There is a day though where you just look at her and you see it, how much she has given up, how many dreams she may not have fulfilled, the burden of having to be a perfect mother all the time just to be taken for granted.
When you are a young female it is easy to partake in harmful jokes made to your mother, coming even from your father, without realizing that this might be our future too.
“We mothers stand still so our daughters can look back and see how far they’ve come” watching that in the theater next to my mom, dressed in our pink outfits together… I cried
THIS DUDE. It reminded me of that quote that is like daughter and father laugh at mother but that won’t stop the daughter from sharing the same fate as the mother or something but like omg
My mom was very open and communicative with me growing up, so she shared a lot about her life and any struggles she overcame or mistakes she made. It made me always see her as human, and a complex person-so when she ever made any mistakes with me or anyone in the family, I was understanding and could forgive her and move on. I understood she wasn’t this “superhero,” and she was a person with hopes, dreams, and regrets. I saw her as a very wise person I could learn from, and I did. I hope I can be half as good of a mom as she’s been to me.
Sadly, I only understood this after my mom died
I think despite all its flaws, barbie is a good depiction of girlhood and womanhood. Especially ruth’s speech and the montage. Maybe i was just projecting my own feelings onto that montage but it genuinely made me feel a sense of sisterhood like all my negative and positive experiences of being a girl were understood. It was brief but I appreciated it nonetheless.
I think a lot of us projected our own feelings there...that was the goal.
I think this movie hits differently for those who have experienced girlhood. In those moments of silence we can project our own meaning and I think that’s beautiful. Also I thought the making of Mattel scenes was purposely obnoxious and boring as a another message the movie tries to portray. From my perspective this movie is a portrayal of the simple and complex perspectives of girlhood.
Dylan... you say you wanted Barbie to realize what she wants, but missed the point of the scenes you reference. Also, Sasha did change! She went from having a negative relationship with her mother to realizing her mom's importance and strength. Perhaps you missed it because it happened while other events were going on.
It's a film that resonates with the female experience, so I can see how some things might not have been as impactful with you.
YESS!!
@d.o.m.i.i couldn't have said it better!!! what i was expecting from the movie was the message that both men and women are important, needed and valued. we simply cannot exist without the other, they fail to bring that full circle. And yes the characters didn't grow either they're just tweaked a little at the end.
oh don't be condescending. I'm a woman and men hater when I'm online, I wanted to love this movie and I ended up being disappointed. I think it's clear that although the movie does touch on some issues relevant for just women, it does a poor job navigating through them and developing the story, specially on barbieland
I actually loved the Mattel scenes- it's like instead of giving this realistic view of a company, they are as goofy as the Barbie world and are aware of everything.
22:11 I've never disagreed with you more Dylan, that sht made the entire theater laugh when I went to watch it because we were all thinking that exact thing and not expecting that
Literally!! My theatre was practically rolling on the floor from laughter. It was so unexpected during such an emotionally charged moment, I was in tears and I couldn't tell you which emotion I was crying from
Saaaaaaaaaame
Exactly, same
Yeah, some things work when you enjoy it at a theater vs by yourself at home 😝 never understood "theater experience" bc i assumed watching a movie was the same anywhere until I started watching on my phone. i grew an appreciation for actually going to the theaters this year and I'm so glad i did. It definitely gives a different perspective and i wish theaters offered reshowings of movies more often
It's weird to require a comedy to follow certain narrative rules throughout the movie. That's like saying Space Balls was "not allowed" or shouldn't have broken the 4th wall halfway into the movie when they did. The jokes worked. Can't please everyone, and they don't have to.
The many scenes that are filled with silence are actually filled with a knowing messages between women and our struggles… definitely targeted more towards women
Little did I know I’d open up to my subscriptions to see my favorite 20yr old bamboo stick watching Barbie
LMAO NOT BAMBOO STICK 💀 VIOLATION OF RIGHTS OMFG😭😭
We will never let this joke die 😂
isn’t he the one that went to scam college or?😂😂😂
LMFAO
I have been in this community for over two years now but I still don't get the bamboo joke 😭😭, can someone explain?
I can't lie, I found this film really emotional at the end but I very much think its because it was made to hit home for the female audience. I think with the slower moments you're missing the point a tiny bit. I feel like the idea behind those scenes and why they seem so unknown and confusing is because they are meant to be exactly that. Emotions, especially for women are greatly confusing, like being a woman is being 80% confused about why we feel certain ways seemingly for no reason. That's why I think it hits home so hard, because its that coming to terms with one not knowing how you actually feel about yourself or life and two having to accept that its the way things are. Barbie getting to walk into the light feels like she's figured a little part of herself out which is sooooo relatable and scary and sad, as its such a tiny bit of what's to come, and there's so much uncertainty still to come, but the main message is, that its ok to not know what you're supposed to do or be. The slow moments are meant to be blank spaces that don't make as much sense, because that's exactly how our emotions can feel to us, but that's just how I feel. I loved the movie. Great commentary as ever 💖💖
That’s beautifully put. It’s okay to not be certain of our future because we will never see our entire path laid out before us.
I felt very dissatisfied at the end of Barbie and couldn’t quite figure out why. Your explanation of how the ending could have been better was so spot on. Like it just felt like something was missing.
Righttt me too. I would’ve love to love the movie, but I never had that full satisfaction. It was still fun sitting in the theatre where everyone was in pink and they were all so nice
I absolutely agree!
Despite also feeling dissatisfied when I watched it, I kinda think the ending fit the movie. At the end of the day, Barbie is a product and an idea Mattel is selling, so I never expected this movie to give anything more than a superficial look at the world, feminism, and why Barbie would ever choose to leave her idyllic Barbieland for the real world. It's the perfect ending for a movie that was mostly meant to promote a new version of Barbie for a new generation and introduce the new Mattel cinematic universe.
Maybe if they cut out some of those Mattel scenes and made room to show a bit more of Barbie learning about being human while she was in the real world.
That’s exactly what I said. The movie was so good but they didn’t hit the landing at the end.
The guy at ~19:20 is a comedian. It's Jamie Demetriou - he's in lots of UK comedies including Stath Lets Flats. They DID cast a comedian and he's great!
i think the "incomplete" stories add more value to the story, because for example the morther and daughter just started seeing eye to eye which is more of a start rather than a conclusion. Just as life is
Yep but there’s a way to suggest that while still closing their arc and not feeling like the movie wasn’t finished or that you missed entire scenes.
@@mariannestrgzr9374 but that also reflects real life and that’s the point. Also, the silent moments spoke the loudest for me. I didn’t need the movie to fill in the gaps with dialogue, it was much more powerful without it imo
@@GrinningLikeaDelicateJamesDean Sure but I too could make a movie with poor dialogue, weird rythm and incoherent scenario and say that’s because real life is like this and that’s the point. It’s an argument I generally agree with, but not in that specific case. There’s a way to do all those things in a cinematographic manner that still remains meaningful, and I didn’t find it in the BARBIE movie.
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I think the ending is much more about growing out of barbieland, all the feelings and changes she underwent she seemed to lose the innocence she had, which is why she's shown the childhood montage, because its celebrating that innocence while still recognizing moving on isn't so bad.
It would be so entertaining to see dylan watch some of the older animated barbie movies😂
Now that would me goal!
Nutcracker!! 🙌
25:00 i assumed it was each Barbie has their own Ken, so everyone Ken probably has a favorite Barbie or the Barbie they’re closest to 🤔