I get why people were upset over no Michael, but considering where the sequels went I think we can all agree that the anthology series would have been a better approach.
Totally agree. Had this been the second film, and the marketing made it a point that Halloween II was in the world of Michael Myers, I think audiences would have understood it much like how Greek Mythologies or Comic Books aren't direct sequels of the original stories, but simply continuations and variations of stories in this mythological world. Like, if Mike is a pure evil personality driven by supernatural power, than Season of The Witch fits into that world. Perfectly? No, but enough to say, hey, this is good.
Halloween 3: Season of the Witch is a greatly underrated horror film. Atmospheric, cryptic, subtle, and a great satire on the commercialization of Halloween.
@greg garner Part 6 again is the only connection to Halloween and Samhain as the coven used that power to create Michael when he was 6 years old. That is why he attacked only on halloween because of them. Also the only film where he made any sense
I don’t know about anyone else, but this is the video essay I’ve been waiting on. I personally can’t make it through October without watching Season of the Witch just as much as I can’t make it through the month without watching the first two Halloween films back-to-back. There’s always gonna be a special place in my heart for this one and I’m glad to see its fan base growing stronger with each passing year.
Mondo The Grunt Frankly, I also wish they went along with the idea, regardless of the fans feedback. Maybe it would have been better than the five Micheal films after Season of the Witch
Same. The thought of getting a new original Halloween themed movie every year just simply called “Halloween: *enter title here*” is such a cool concept to me. I hope someone does it someday. We watch horror movies every year but very few are in the “spirit” of the Halloween holiday. I wish there were more.
@@xoutofstep Have you watched Trick 'r Treat? Very Halloween inspired film. The director did want to do a new one every year, but he has yet to make a second one :(
@@Tom-xl2kl Nah, he's had plans to make Trick 'r Treat 2, but instead he made Krampus after Trick 'r Treat and he's currently directing the new Godzilla movie.
This movie reminded me, strangely enough of The Wicker Man....that type of “outsider wandering around a strange town trying to solve a crime and EVERYONE in town is weird and culty “
Yes!! I recently rewatched Halloween Iii. It had been somewhere between fifteen and twenty years since I first viewed it. I hated it then but was only a teenager who hadn’t quite discovered my love for movies back then. So, when I rewatched it, I enjoyed t more this second time around and noticed that it too reminded me of The Wicker Man. The outsider in the strange town as you mentioned, plus the masks and a sort of ritual in this film. Not to mention it was an Irish town, maybe a subtle homage to The Wicker Man??
@@RyanHollinger I'd really like to see you do a video on The Wicker Man at some point...and preferably the original. Of course, there's always room to compare the films, or even thecults and societies built between the original and the remake, but it feels like the remake flounders to have a coherent mystery and a proper sense of eeriness maintained throughout.
Halloween 3 is actually my favorite movie in the series. For me the biggest part was the ending where I had assumed the hero lost and the broadcast wasn't cut off in time. That hopelessness, that despite his best efforts Silver Shamrock got what they wanted, to me, was truly horrific and is why I love the movie.
It was originally made that way, that the final broadcast wasn't stopped in time, and you would hear the screams of children, but I think it's better that it leaves it on an ambiguous ending. It leaves the movie open-ended, sure, and the viewer could always conclude that maybe he managed to stop it, but it's chilling that there's the very real possibility that it didn't happen, and when it's left to the imagination of the audience, it's more devastating in their minds.
That idea of children widespread being killed by the masks was shocking; I know that originally the screams of children was to be in place of any music I still struggle with the bit about the clockwork dolls: it demanded too much of our suspension of disbelief as they didn’t even have artificial intelligence. Indeed a bad ending can ruin an other wise decent film
@Dylan Martinez that's false, the first Halloween was already super popular, the second film didn't really add much. There would still be future Michael Myers films no matter what, but an anthology series would have been way better for the series to begin with.
@@mikeynike81 it worked except the general audience was too dumb and closed minded to appreciate it. They wanted Michael the familiar back. Halloween had much more potential. They could have delved deeper into Halloween Mythology.
I actually love this film. It's so dark and weird. I know Nigel Kneale 😍 wrote a draft for the movie, which probably contributed to the overall dreamy/nightmarish tone. Underrated as heck
Nigel Neale wrote the original screenplay, John Carpenter wrote the second draft and then Tommy Lee Wallace wrote the third draft and got the only writing credit
@greg garner A mad businessman managing to sacrifice thousands of children, including my relatives terrifies me much more than a masked killer. "Nightmare on Elm Street" scares way better than the first "Halloween". Carpenter did miracle from that thin plot and that flat character.
@greg garner I said plot, not character. That's why the first Halloween works better, but third's plot is more terrifying. I can imagine myself killing Michael Myers, but I think I'd be as helpless as Dr Challis is in "Halloween 3".
Also one thing that is over looked a lot of the time is the films soundtrack, super moody, it's only lacking a main theme hook like Halloween, but otherwise I think it's the best soundtrack in the series. And also favorite sequel is probably Halloween 4, it captures a great deal of the Halloween mood and has really effective kills.
Witchcraft meets the modern science fiction stuff. John Carpenter says Kneale was influenced by Lovecraft, and all three Carpenter flicks of the apocalypse trilogy are Lovecraftian, so I really can't help but feel like Season of the Witch is a wonderful ass following closely behind JC's eldritch troika.
The atmosphere, The soundtrack, The Cinematography of Dean Cundey, The total and utter creepiness of Loleta California where it was filmed for the most part and the fact it was an original concept that it while borrowed stylistically from Invasion of the Body Snatchers was original in it's story. That's why i watch it every year.
Halloween II and III are on par for me as my favorite Halloween sequel, for different reasons. I really like Season of the Witch for the the mystery, dark atmosphere and the quintessential feel of the holiday it depicts like not many other movies do. Also, the ending is more horrifying to me than that of any other film in the franchise. It's completely in vein of Carpenters Apocalypse trilogy and sticked with me for a few hours after my first viewing. Really makes me wonder what could have been if Halloween continued to be an anthology.
Halloween 3 is definitely becoming a cult classic among horror fans. I've recently rewatched Season of the Witch and there's so much to love (besides the pointless romance). Another great video mate!
i always really dug halloween III and would love to own the mask replicas. easy to say now and from such a distance but i agree that halloween would have been a great anthology series had they continued
Personally my second favorite out of the series, after the original. I love how weird 3 is and I just think MM is super boring and uninteresting after 2. The sequels kinda ruined him for me. I wish we got more anthology movies instead, I’d probably be looking much more forward towards the new one if that was the case.
I enjoy Halloween 3 for what it is, a good (but not great) little horror film and it's never bothered me that there's no Michael Myers. Drop "Halloween" from the title and just think of it as "Season of the Witch" and the lack of Myers really doesn't matter. I have a special edition DVD in which there's a booklet that goes into the history of the film and explains at length the conflict regarding the writing, and it is definitely that lack of clarity of what Season of the Witch wants to be which prevents it being a great horror film. But overall I love the atmosphere, the location of the town that really does feel oppressive, the soundtrack is excellent and I adore that ending. Very underrated film.
Always had a soft spot for Halloween 4 since childhood, mainly because Michael Myers targeting a child just felt more frightening to me. H20 was a pretty solid sequel. You know they're screening it at the Strand on the 16th? Gonna be there for my birthday with a few friends. Can't wait.
That scene when the kid dies from the mask also freaked me out as a kid. For many years I thought I had imagined it. Anyway, actually my favorite sequel might just be the new Halloween. It's not perfect but I really enjoyed it. For years I kind of went with Halloween I and II being the "true canon" of the series. However, I rewatched both of them recently and found myself not as into II as I used to be. I mean, yeah it's gorier and more action packed but I think it sacrifices a bit of what made the original so special. It feels a bit more paint by numbers 80s slasher. Here's how I'd rank em: Resurrection Curse of Michael Myers Revenge of Michael Myers Return of Michael Myers Halloween II Season of the Witch H2O Halloween (2018) Halloween (1978)
Halloween III has always been my favorite sequel. That rotting mask scene freaked me the fuck out as a kid. The score is excellent and Tom Atkins always has the ability to....thrill me.
Imagine an alternative universe where Halloween became an anthology series and every new movie had a different story, director, actors, etc, and Evey Year we could all get excited about what the new movie was good to be like a yearly movie tradition.
Honestly I think that Halloween 3 is fantastic. It's a total break from the slasher genre and holds a bit of cosmicism in it's story telling; an element that Carpenter would revisit with "The Thing" and "Prince of Darkness"
One of most hated & misunderstood movies of all time. Its so underrated, people seem to forget the franchise is called Halloween, not Myers. Just like Predator is called Predator and not Dutch. But I guess people want to see the same thing over again and over again. Its fun, dark, with gory kills and a few wtf moments. Just watch it as a stand alone movie. That's it, problem solved.
All I remember from H2O (apparently Ryan's favorite sequel) is Jamie Lee Curtis suggesting that people "try to live," when they asked her what to do. Even as a child, I remember thinking how profoundly unhelpful that advice was.
Halloween 3 may be one of the most underrated horror films ever made. The amount of hate and unfair judgment it gets because it doesn't have Michael is ridiculous. The premise of the movie is better than 99.9% of horror movies released in the past decade.
good vid. i love that you mentioned invasion of the body snatchers (this film brought that to mind when i first saw it as a kid/teen) and the corporate and tv/commercialism to kids angles. i think this is an underrated solid horror film. i remember my friends hated it when we saw it in the theater as kids, but i liked it very much. glad someone gave it mention on youtube.
I don't disagree that with your analysis of a lot of the problems with the plot, directing, pacing, etc. But for some reason I love Halloween 3. It's definitely my favorite sequel in the series
Thanks, Ryan. Needed these fearful memories back in my head RIGHT before travelling. It's like you bring up so many things that scare me that I forgot about. God, I love this channel.
I really like horror stories that have to do with masks. Season of the Witch, The Haunted Mask, Phantom Blood, Big Head Killer/The Mask, are some of my favorite supernatural/horror stories. The mysterious allure a mask can have over me really is chilling, I want to put it on however I'm always apprehensive. What if said mask has a hidden explosive in it, merges to my face, turns me into an inhuman monster, or completely takes control of me? I'm not really afraid to put on a mask, but those stories always play out in my mind when I do so.
My favorite sequel is either Halloween 2 or H2O. 2 has a great almost nightmarish atmosphere, the kind of too-quiet that makes you look around for watching eyes. But H2O does a great job with the theme of facing your monsters, and gives Laurie a nice face-off with Michael. I guess we'll see shortly if the new movie does even better. :)
I actually think this is a super great movie and wish they kept it going and created a cinematic universe of sorts. Also the music is awesome. Do you have a track list?
Speaking of Rob Zombie, you should do a video on House Of 1000 Corpses. It’s kinda like Evil Dead in how there’s never ever a moment where the characters are safe, they’re always being hunted by something. The horror is overwhelming, and the antagonists dont wanna kill right away. They want to torture you and degrade you, which about 99.9% of horror movies don’t really do, and the horror movies coming out at the time were about ghosts, so when Rob Zombie released the movie he was doing something super damn bold for the time.
For what it tried to do, it was genius honestly. I like they "tried" to go into an anthology of the series Ala trick or treat just instead of it 4 short stories combine cohesively into one full story following Jack the trick or treat Halloween pumpkin head son demon...thing they wanted to go more into it was go like the apocalypse trilogy from john carpenter just set in the Halloween universe, where it was just the curse of mike myers affecting and making this horrible shit or something like that (different reasons from both carpenter and hill from what i found.) Now is the film good? if you take away the fact it isn't Mike Myers and Laurie Strode, Jamie lee curtis's character and go "oh its a crazy S.O.B" then its a really good film slow in some parts but really good. but if you go in after watching Halloween 1 and 2? yeah...its horrible
My favorite Halloween sequel is either Halloween 2 as it was the first and one of the few sequels in the series that actually got every now and again and I really like the isolated feel created by the abandoned hospital. H2O is close in the running though since it was a great end to the series.
I just finally watched this all the way through this past Halloween, I can't believe I never really payed attention to it for so long! I really like it, it's just so creepy and has a nostalgic tone that in these days I really am drawn to. I think it is way underrated and shouldn't be forgotten as a cult classic horror film.
No. It is not bad in the slightest bit. Thinking so is both archaic and barbaric. Any real horror fan LOVES this movie. It is, hands down, THE BEST halloween themed movie ever (with Trick R Treat at a very close second).
How is this the best halloween themed movie ever when the original Halloween exists?? Not to mention films like nightmare before christmas, monster house, trick r treat and the guest
@@SqueakyJpn nightmare before christmas is for children and teenage goth girls. Also, it's a christmas movie. I also mentioned Trick R Treat, so, try your commenting elsewhere. Halloween 3 is a cult classic. It perfectly embodies halloween time. Masks. Trick or treating. It just has this fun, halloween feel to it. Oh, and they MURDER CHILDREN! The ending is so awesome.
@@msiaregodz the ending wouldve been more entertaining had they actually shown all of the kids turning into mush. but it was so low budget they could only afford to do it one time. I couldn't care less if this movie had Michael Myers in it; it was extremely boring and underwhelming.
The main villain has a "different" kinda mask.. A smile. A false love for childrun.. When its revealed what his TRUE motive is.. He does it simply because it "amuses him".. Also because he wants to bring back the darker aspects of Halloween.. But mostly because "mass murder is hilarious".
I can forgive Halloween 3's flaws for the very reason they tried something different without Myers. What I cannot forgive so easily are the sequels. They all had Myers, but he wasn't 'a force of evil' anymore. Halloween 2 (1981) and Season of the Witch are the best sequels imo because they captured that mood missing from the others.
I really wish they would have stayed with the idea of having an anthology. Think of all the interesting stories we could have gotten. Sure, not all of them would have been gold, but it would have given us variety instead of Michael myers being … well, the same threat in every movie.
Discovered this movie about 4 years ago, if you just watch it as a campy 80's horror movie on it's own, it's great for the genre. If people realized this at the time, we may have had even more good Halloween anthology movies for years. The movie gives a very creepy Halloween time vibe, and stands great on it's own.
While every video that comes from your channel is brilliant from start to finish, my favorite part has got to be the "Let's talk about it.." You're living my dream, Ryan, waxing poetic about horror movies. You're a legend. 🖤
This is why you can't listen to anyone and must do your own thing. They should have continued the anthology approach if thats what Debra and John wanted.
If the Halloween named wasn't attached to the movie, I think it would've been received very differently and would have a different legacy. But, since it had the Halloween name attached AND it had no Michael in it, people held that against the movie. My only gripe with the movie is the weird trope Carpenter has in SotW and The Fog where a guy [funnily enough, played by the same actor], picks up a female hitchhiker and they almost immediately sleep with eachother. It just feels unnecessary to the plot.
Halloween 3 is definitely one of my favorite horror movies. I think that if it wasn't titled Halloween it would have been a hell of a lot more successful.
I love this movie with every fiber of my being. I just adore it. And my unironic favorite part is the cover art, with the silouhetted kids and the red sky, with a lone streetlamp burning a drop of yellow-white in there with the face in the clouds looming above. The movie is great yeah, but that poster is everything I've ever wanted and needed October 31st to be. Seeing kids in superhero costumes and stuff is fine but I wish we could just do shit like that again. God I love Halloween
So firstly... Someone who pronounces it right... so many people say it phonetically as Samhain it is really wonderful to hear a UA-camr get it right (and yes I know you're Irish so have no excuse but it still is lovely). To be honest, this is my favourite Halloween movie, not only does it turn the tables (as you said) on what keeps us safe but it was different, it may help that my Birthday is the 31st October and this was the first Halloween movie I saw and on my birthday no less. Once again an amazing vid and thank you so so much for NOT playing that ear worm of song.
This movie's biggest sin is simply having "Halloween" in the title. If you think of it as its own seperate thing it's a pretty creepy, imaginative, and unique horror movie. And god... the image of all the snakes and insects pouring out of that mask where a child's head used to be... that has stayed with me for years. Even now it's hard to watch it without squirming.
When i watched this film back in 1982, my theory was perhaps the message being sent with Halloween 3 was that maybe Michael Myers was actually a serial killer "ROBOT" & that's why he was hard to kill in the first 2 films. This film was the explanation.
Season Of The Witch is fantastic. That speech by Cochran is creepy as fuck. Yes there's a few cheesy things like the bicycle bell and the fact that a severed arm can't really push onto your throat but who cares. Halloween III is one of my favorites and I watch it every year. Favorite Halloween sequel... Season Of The Witch.
I’m glad youtube recommended your channel to me! I really in retrospect don’t think the movie was as bad as it had seemed on original viewing. The idea is at least original compared to somewhat copy pasted horror plots that pop up again and again lately, it was fun to rewatch something that was different 😊
If Hollywood is going to persist in doing re-makes, this is the sort of thing they SHOULD be re-making. Not stuff that was already a massive success, but stuff which had so much potential but was let down by problems in script, editing, acting or budget.
I've always really liked Halloween 3. To me part of the issue was being part of the franchise so people expected Michael Myers so when he wasn't in it it immediately got panned. Considering the schlok of the other sequels Halloween 3 is severely underated.
I personally didnt think is was Terrible. As a matter of fact i enjoyed it more most Halloween Sequels. Pretty sure if they didn't throw Halloween into the title i guarantee the reception wouldve been more positive, considering most people were expecting to see Michael Myers, not knowing it was going for an Anthology series.
I think had this been Halloween 2 and Michael Myers forgotten about Season of The Witch would have been generally accepted. It would have been creepy to never see Michael Myers again with him just disappearing at the end of Halloween. They could have just had different stories every Halloween and it would have worked probably even better with fresh ideas.
pause at 8:08 and look at the picture or mirror or whatever that is just to the left of the door the guy is standing in, is that a picture of meyers? or just something that looks like it as an easter egg? or just a completely normal picture that looks like that cause its dark and all (havnt seen this movie)
To me like Dougherty's Trick r Treat this is the other most authentic Halloween holiday themed film it's by no means great but I love the simple concept of a creepy old man playing a "trick"on the kids and that left turn revelation of what the masks do is still one of the boldest unsettling moves I've seen in a mainstream studio film.
My favorite sequel is the new Halloween from 2018. I saw it at a horror film festival and it truly delivered for me. I really felt that Michael and the series had come home.
About Ally, Ryan, she didn't become an android out of nowhere. Actually, after Shamrock kidnaps her, he kills her and stuffs her with his android tech in order to substitute the old woman android that Dr. Chalis broke earlier in the movie. It took me some time to realize it, yet it made the movie all the more sinister to me.
If they continued with the anthology idea, I think that would make Michael Myers in the first 2 movies much scarier. We would never have seen him at his worst
I get why people were upset over no Michael, but considering where the sequels went I think we can all agree that the anthology series would have been a better approach.
Totally agree. Had this been the second film, and the marketing made it a point that Halloween II was in the world of Michael Myers, I think audiences would have understood it much like how Greek Mythologies or Comic Books aren't direct sequels of the original stories, but simply continuations and variations of stories in this mythological world. Like, if Mike is a pure evil personality driven by supernatural power, than Season of The Witch fits into that world. Perfectly? No, but enough to say, hey, this is good.
Or hey, like any anthology series, it can be just under a title and theme, but be totally not interconnected.
Today it would be done as a TV series.
As long as we acknowledge that h2 and H20 were good movies then I agree
@@cheese7960 Halloween 4 isn't bad either. H2O also has some moments
Halloween 3: Season of the Witch is a greatly underrated horror film.
Atmospheric, cryptic, subtle, and a great satire on the commercialization of Halloween.
Justin Lance I really hope this is sarcasm
Halloween 3 is the best one in the franchise and the only one that actually has anything to do with Halloween!
@greg garner Myers had no connection with Halloween until Part 6 Producers cut
@greg garner Part 6 is the only one that connected him to Halloween and is the only one that made sense
@greg garner Part 6 again is the only connection to Halloween and Samhain as the coven used that power to create Michael when he was 6 years old. That is why he attacked only on halloween because of them. Also the only film where he made any sense
I don’t know about anyone else, but this is the video essay I’ve been waiting on. I personally can’t make it through October without watching Season of the Witch just as much as I can’t make it through the month without watching the first two Halloween films back-to-back. There’s always gonna be a special place in my heart for this one and I’m glad to see its fan base growing stronger with each passing year.
Honestly? If this had been released as it’s own movie it probably would have been a cult classic immediately.
i agree
magix shiz yea they couldve n probably shouldve just called it season of the witch
Same here i should have just been "Season of the Witch". It probably would have been better done alot better.
exactly my point.
Look, I don't think of it as a part of the Halloween series.
And I still don't think it's a good movie.
Personally, I really wished that they stuck with Halloween being an anthology series
Mondo The Grunt Frankly, I also wish they went along with the idea, regardless of the fans feedback. Maybe it would have been better than the five Micheal films after Season of the Witch
Same. The thought of getting a new original Halloween themed movie every year just simply called “Halloween: *enter title here*” is such a cool concept to me. I hope someone does it someday. We watch horror movies every year but very few are in the “spirit” of the Halloween holiday. I wish there were more.
@@xoutofstep Have you watched Trick 'r Treat? Very Halloween inspired film. The director did want to do a new one every year, but he has yet to make a second one :(
i thought there was an second one but there wasn't an third?
@@Tom-xl2kl Nah, he's had plans to make Trick 'r Treat 2, but instead he made Krampus after Trick 'r Treat and he's currently directing the new Godzilla movie.
This movie reminded me, strangely enough of The Wicker Man....that type of “outsider wandering around a strange town trying to solve a crime and EVERYONE in town is weird and culty “
Good call actually! It’s one I always forget about.
Yes!! I recently rewatched Halloween Iii. It had been somewhere between fifteen and twenty years since I first viewed it. I hated it then but was only a teenager who hadn’t quite discovered my love for movies back then.
So, when I rewatched it, I enjoyed t more this second time around and noticed that it too reminded me of The Wicker Man. The outsider in the strange town as you mentioned, plus the masks and a sort of ritual in this film. Not to mention it was an Irish town, maybe a subtle homage to The Wicker Man??
@@RyanHollinger I'd really like to see you do a video on The Wicker Man at some point...and preferably the original. Of course, there's always room to compare the films, or even thecults and societies built between the original and the remake, but it feels like the remake flounders to have a coherent mystery and a proper sense of eeriness maintained throughout.
Yes strong wicker man vibes
Hmm
Halloween 3 is actually my favorite movie in the series. For me the biggest part was the ending where I had assumed the hero lost and the broadcast wasn't cut off in time. That hopelessness, that despite his best efforts Silver Shamrock got what they wanted, to me, was truly horrific and is why I love the movie.
Me too
Wait, I thought he didn’t win?
Open ending
It was originally made that way, that the final broadcast wasn't stopped in time, and you would hear the screams of children, but I think it's better that it leaves it on an ambiguous ending. It leaves the movie open-ended, sure, and the viewer could always conclude that maybe he managed to stop it, but it's chilling that there's the very real possibility that it didn't happen, and when it's left to the imagination of the audience, it's more devastating in their minds.
That idea of children widespread being killed by the masks was shocking; I know that originally the screams of children was to be in place of any music
I still struggle with the bit about the clockwork dolls: it demanded too much of our suspension of disbelief as they didn’t even have artificial intelligence. Indeed a bad ending can ruin an other wise decent film
20 more days till Halloween, Halloween.
20 more days till Halloween, Halloween.
Silver Shamrock
Watch the Magic Pumpkin, watch!
Don't buy those masks lol
Stop, stop, stop, I'd rather have the "Ducktales" theme stuck in my head!
Turn it off, turn it off, for God's sake turn it off!
More like 6 days.
Not even a mention of the song. Ryan, you truly are a hero.
♫Twenty days 'til Halloween, Halloween, Halloween...♫
Yes, thank god, that's the number one reason I hate this stupid movie.
Tom Kearns happy happy halloween halloween halloween
happy happy halloween
Silver Shamrock
@@Hauptseite 🎵19 days til Halloween, Halloween, Halloween, 19 days til Halloween🎵
doot-DOOT-doot-DOOT-doot-DOOT-doot-DOOT
Halloween would have worked much better as an anthology series then with the constant sequels drudging up Micheal Myers
it didn't work though thats why they stopped
Completely agree.
@Dylan Martinez that's false, the first Halloween was already super popular, the second film didn't really add much. There would still be future Michael Myers films no matter what, but an anthology series would have been way better for the series to begin with.
@@mikeynike81 it worked except the general audience was too dumb and closed minded to appreciate it. They wanted Michael the familiar back. Halloween had much more potential. They could have delved deeper into Halloween Mythology.
I actually love this film. It's so dark and weird. I know Nigel Kneale 😍 wrote a draft for the movie, which probably contributed to the overall dreamy/nightmarish tone.
Underrated as heck
I love it, too. Even with the unintentional camp. There's something about the plot that makes me think it would be a great video game.
This plot's way more terrifying than than Michael Myers.
Nigel Neale wrote the original screenplay, John Carpenter wrote the second draft and then Tommy Lee Wallace wrote the third draft and got the only writing credit
@greg garner A mad businessman managing to sacrifice thousands of children, including my relatives terrifies me much more than a masked killer.
"Nightmare on Elm Street" scares way better than the first "Halloween". Carpenter did miracle from that thin plot and that flat character.
@greg garner I said plot, not character. That's why the first Halloween works better, but third's plot is more terrifying. I can imagine myself killing Michael Myers, but I think I'd be as helpless as Dr Challis is in "Halloween 3".
You got that damn Silver Shamrock song stuck in my head, Ryan
18 days til halloween, halloween, halloween
18 days till Halloween, Silver Shamrock!
363 days til halloween, halloween, halloween
A fate worse than death.
That or the easy Street song which is worse torture?
Also one thing that is over looked a lot of the time is the films soundtrack, super moody, it's only lacking a main theme hook like Halloween, but otherwise I think it's the best soundtrack in the series. And also favorite sequel is probably Halloween 4, it captures a great deal of the Halloween mood and has really effective kills.
Yeah, love that synthesizer music as well as the jingle!
#MakeRyandressupforhalloweenagain
As much as I like Meyers it would have been really cool to see anthology films like season of the witch.
Witchcraft meets the modern science fiction stuff. John Carpenter says Kneale was influenced by Lovecraft, and all three Carpenter flicks of the apocalypse trilogy are Lovecraftian, so I really can't help but feel like Season of the Witch is a wonderful ass following closely behind JC's eldritch troika.
I love Halloween 3, and I will shout it from the mountaintops.
The atmosphere, The soundtrack, The Cinematography of Dean Cundey, The total and utter creepiness of Loleta California where it was filmed for the most part and the fact it was an original concept that it while borrowed stylistically from Invasion of the Body Snatchers was original in it's story. That's why i watch it every year.
Halloween II and III are on par for me as my favorite Halloween sequel, for different reasons. I really like Season of the Witch for the the mystery, dark atmosphere and the quintessential feel of the holiday it depicts like not many other movies do. Also, the ending is more horrifying to me than that of any other film in the franchise. It's completely in vein of Carpenters Apocalypse trilogy and sticked with me for a few hours after my first viewing.
Really makes me wonder what could have been if Halloween continued to be an anthology.
Halloween 3 is definitely becoming a cult classic among horror fans. I've recently rewatched Season of the Witch and there's so much to love (besides the pointless romance). Another great video mate!
i always really dug halloween III and would love to own the mask replicas. easy to say now and from such a distance but i agree that halloween would have been a great anthology series had they continued
Personally my second favorite out of the series, after the original. I love how weird 3 is and I just think MM is super boring and uninteresting after 2. The sequels kinda ruined him for me. I wish we got more anthology movies instead, I’d probably be looking much more forward towards the new one if that was the case.
Man of culture
My favorite Halloween sequel is the one where Paul Rudd beats the shit out of Michael Myers. No, really, that happened.
Still ain’t Busta Rhymes tho.
I saw that one at the theater. The whole audience was captivated by Rudd's performance. We all knew. A star was born that film.
Halloween 6: The Curse of Micheal Myers
You mean the only good part about that movie. Other than any time Donald Pleasence is giving it his all as Loomis that is.
@@RyanHollinger Meh, LL Cool J survived a bullet to the head, I'm not impressed till he does that.
I enjoy Halloween 3 for what it is, a good (but not great) little horror film and it's never bothered me that there's no Michael Myers. Drop "Halloween" from the title and just think of it as "Season of the Witch" and the lack of Myers really doesn't matter. I have a special edition DVD in which there's a booklet that goes into the history of the film and explains at length the conflict regarding the writing, and it is definitely that lack of clarity of what Season of the Witch wants to be which prevents it being a great horror film. But overall I love the atmosphere, the location of the town that really does feel oppressive, the soundtrack is excellent and I adore that ending. Very underrated film.
ReclusiveDuck I agree completely!
This movie reminds me of Silent Hill 4 : The Room...just because I think both of them would have been less held back if they had been standalones.
The answer is No, and that it’s actually one of the best in the series
Dan S May I ask why?
Shut up this on of the worst
@@krater9256 no
@@krater9256 h20, resurrection, curse of micheal Myers and Rob zombie reboot 2 are worse
I hope you feel better soon.
The pumpkin scene in Halloween lll & the episode of Goosebumps- the Haunted Mask- made me never want to wear a mask again.
Understandable
Always had a soft spot for Halloween 4 since childhood, mainly because Michael Myers targeting a child just felt more frightening to me. H20 was a pretty solid sequel. You know they're screening it at the Strand on the 16th? Gonna be there for my birthday with a few friends. Can't wait.
Personally this is my favorite sequel and the idea behind part three is frightening!
I actually like 3 as much as the originals, if not more
I love this movie and wish they ran with the anthology idea
Dogshit
Fr they just ruined Michael Myers
That scene when the kid dies from the mask also freaked me out as a kid. For many years I thought I had imagined it. Anyway, actually my favorite sequel might just be the new Halloween. It's not perfect but I really enjoyed it. For years I kind of went with Halloween I and II being the "true canon" of the series. However, I rewatched both of them recently and found myself not as into II as I used to be. I mean, yeah it's gorier and more action packed but I think it sacrifices a bit of what made the original so special. It feels a bit more paint by numbers 80s slasher. Here's how I'd rank em:
Resurrection
Curse of Michael Myers
Revenge of Michael Myers
Return of Michael Myers
Halloween II
Season of the Witch
H2O
Halloween (2018)
Halloween (1978)
Halloween III has always been my favorite sequel. That rotting mask scene freaked me the fuck out as a kid. The score is excellent and Tom Atkins always has the ability to....thrill me.
Your videos are criminally under-watched. Keep up the good work man!
Halloween 3 has always been one of my favourites in the series, it's seriously underrated
Imagine an alternative universe where Halloween became an anthology series and every new movie had a different story, director, actors, etc, and Evey Year we could all get excited about what the new movie was good to be like a yearly movie tradition.
Honestly I think that Halloween 3 is fantastic. It's a total break from the slasher genre and holds a bit of cosmicism in it's story telling; an element that Carpenter would revisit with "The Thing" and "Prince of Darkness"
One of most hated & misunderstood movies of all time. Its so underrated, people seem to forget the franchise is called Halloween, not Myers. Just like Predator is called Predator and not Dutch. But I guess people want to see the same thing over again and over again. Its fun, dark, with gory kills and a few wtf moments. Just watch it as a stand alone movie. That's it, problem solved.
I couldn't give a less shit of Michael Meyers
but boy, do i adore this movie and its comcept
All I remember from H2O (apparently Ryan's favorite sequel) is Jamie Lee Curtis suggesting that people "try to live," when they asked her what to do. Even as a child, I remember thinking how profoundly unhelpful that advice was.
Wasn’t Halloween 3 the one about the masks? God I loved that one.
Yeah and same. VERY underrated.
Horror Lover underrated means it's bad.
@@priestgoober5160 It means more people should like it and/or watch it. That's how it's always been used. Don't try to twist a definition.
@@burnforburn ik I was kidding
Simon's Home Videos no it means it’s good but people don’t know about it
I think having more one-shot entries in the series while still occasionally returning to Myers would be a cool approach.
Halloween 3 may be one of the most underrated horror films ever made. The amount of hate and unfair judgment it gets because it doesn't have Michael is ridiculous. The premise of the movie is better than 99.9% of horror movies released in the past decade.
good vid. i love that you mentioned invasion of the body snatchers (this film brought that to mind when i first saw it as a kid/teen) and the corporate and tv/commercialism to kids angles. i think this is an underrated solid horror film. i remember my friends hated it when we saw it in the theater as kids, but i liked it very much. glad someone gave it mention on youtube.
I don't disagree that with your analysis of a lot of the problems with the plot, directing, pacing, etc.
But for some reason I love Halloween 3. It's definitely my favorite sequel in the series
Thanks, Ryan. Needed these fearful memories back in my head RIGHT before travelling. It's like you bring up so many things that scare me that I forgot about. God, I love this channel.
blasting out that silver shamrock song this halloween
I really like horror stories that have to do with masks. Season of the Witch, The Haunted Mask, Phantom Blood, Big Head Killer/The Mask, are some of my favorite supernatural/horror stories. The mysterious allure a mask can have over me really is chilling, I want to put it on however I'm always apprehensive. What if said mask has a hidden explosive in it, merges to my face, turns me into an inhuman monster, or completely takes control of me? I'm not really afraid to put on a mask, but those stories always play out in my mind when I do so.
My favorite sequel is Halloween 3. I think it's a severely underrated movie.
My favorite sequel is either Halloween 2 or H2O. 2 has a great almost nightmarish atmosphere, the kind of too-quiet that makes you look around for watching eyes. But H2O does a great job with the theme of facing your monsters, and gives Laurie a nice face-off with Michael. I guess we'll see shortly if the new movie does even better. :)
I actually think this is a super great movie and wish they kept it going and created a cinematic universe of sorts.
Also the music is awesome. Do you have a track list?
Speaking of Rob Zombie, you should do a video on House Of 1000 Corpses. It’s kinda like Evil Dead in how there’s never ever a moment where the characters are safe, they’re always being hunted by something. The horror is overwhelming, and the antagonists dont wanna kill right away. They want to torture you and degrade you, which about 99.9% of horror movies don’t really do, and the horror movies coming out at the time were about ghosts, so when Rob Zombie released the movie he was doing something super damn bold for the time.
For what it tried to do, it was genius honestly. I like they "tried" to go into an anthology of the series Ala trick or treat just instead of it 4 short stories combine cohesively into one full story following Jack the trick or treat Halloween pumpkin head son demon...thing they wanted to go more into it was go like the apocalypse trilogy from john carpenter just set in the Halloween universe, where it was just the curse of mike myers affecting and making this horrible shit or something like that (different reasons from both carpenter and hill from what i found.) Now is the film good? if you take away the fact it isn't Mike Myers and Laurie Strode, Jamie lee curtis's character and go "oh its a crazy S.O.B" then its a really good film slow in some parts but really good. but if you go in after watching Halloween 1 and 2? yeah...its horrible
This video seems to have been blocked in the UK, and I'm finally getting to watch it in Spain. Really happy I'm finally getting to see it.
Any chance you can do a video on the Phantasm movies?
I would’ve liked to see the series twist to a anthology series, I would’ve loved to see what the other ideas will be
Can you please tell me the name and artists of the songs you use in this video?
My favorite Halloween sequel is either Halloween 2 as it was the first and one of the few sequels in the series that actually got every now and again and I really like the isolated feel created by the abandoned hospital. H2O is close in the running though since it was a great end to the series.
The title should read, “Is Halloween 3 really that good?” And yes, yes it is....☘️☘️🎃☘️☘️💨 🐍 🐛 🕷🦗🐜🦂
I just finally watched this all the way through this past Halloween, I can't believe I never really payed attention to it for so long! I really like it, it's just so creepy and has a nostalgic tone that in these days I really am drawn to. I think it is way underrated and shouldn't be forgotten as a cult classic horror film.
No. It is not bad in the slightest bit. Thinking so is both archaic and barbaric. Any real horror fan LOVES this movie. It is, hands down, THE BEST halloween themed movie ever (with Trick R Treat at a very close second).
How is this the best halloween themed movie ever when the original Halloween exists?? Not to mention films like nightmare before christmas, monster house, trick r treat and the guest
@@SqueakyJpn nightmare before christmas is for children and teenage goth girls. Also, it's a christmas movie. I also mentioned Trick R Treat, so, try your commenting elsewhere. Halloween 3 is a cult classic. It perfectly embodies halloween time. Masks. Trick or treating. It just has this fun, halloween feel to it. Oh, and they MURDER CHILDREN! The ending is so awesome.
@@msiaregodz the ending wouldve been more entertaining had they actually shown all of the kids turning into mush. but it was so low budget they could only afford to do it one time. I couldn't care less if this movie had Michael Myers in it; it was extremely boring and underwhelming.
The main villain has a "different" kinda mask.. A smile. A false love for childrun.. When its revealed what his TRUE motive is.. He does it simply because it "amuses him".. Also because he wants to bring back the darker aspects of Halloween.. But mostly because "mass murder is hilarious".
BEFORE you begin, let me just say...YES!
If I hear that song again...
I may be starring in my own horror movie soon! 😬
I can forgive Halloween 3's flaws for the very reason they tried something different without Myers. What I cannot forgive so easily are the sequels. They all had Myers, but he wasn't 'a force of evil' anymore. Halloween 2 (1981) and Season of the Witch are the best sequels imo because they captured that mood missing from the others.
I really wish they would have stayed with the idea of having an anthology. Think of all the interesting stories we could have gotten. Sure, not all of them would have been gold, but it would have given us variety instead of Michael myers being … well, the same threat in every movie.
Discovered this movie about 4 years ago, if you just watch it as a campy 80's horror movie on it's own, it's great for the genre. If people realized this at the time, we may have had even more good Halloween anthology movies for years. The movie gives a very creepy Halloween time vibe, and stands great on it's own.
While every video that comes from your channel is brilliant from start to finish, my favorite part has got to be the "Let's talk about it.." You're living my dream, Ryan, waxing poetic about horror movies. You're a legend. 🖤
The whispering is a close second. 🤣
This is why you can't listen to anyone and must do your own thing. They should have continued the anthology approach if thats what Debra and John wanted.
If the Halloween named wasn't attached to the movie, I think it would've been received very differently and would have a different legacy. But, since it had the Halloween name attached AND it had no Michael in it, people held that against the movie. My only gripe with the movie is the weird trope Carpenter has in SotW and The Fog where a guy [funnily enough, played by the same actor], picks up a female hitchhiker and they almost immediately sleep with eachother. It just feels unnecessary to the plot.
Halloween 3 is definitely one of my favorite horror movies. I think that if it wasn't titled Halloween it would have been a hell of a lot more successful.
I actually like ressurection
Cause it was back to basics and preferred over 4-6
I would Love to see you cover ''Ginger Snaps'' Themes and metaphors for puberty, sex and growing up would be so fascinating to see you analyze.
I love this movie with every fiber of my being. I just adore it. And my unironic favorite part is the cover art, with the silouhetted kids and the red sky, with a lone streetlamp burning a drop of yellow-white in there with the face in the clouds looming above. The movie is great yeah, but that poster is everything I've ever wanted and needed October 31st to be. Seeing kids in superhero costumes and stuff is fine but I wish we could just do shit like that again. God I love Halloween
I wish I had the technical acumen to turn the "chorus" of *that* song into a MP3 so I could use it as my Halloween season ring tone on my phone.
i love the mood and content of your videos man!
keep em up
So firstly... Someone who pronounces it right... so many people say it phonetically as Samhain it is really wonderful to hear a UA-camr get it right (and yes I know you're Irish so have no excuse but it still is lovely).
To be honest, this is my favourite Halloween movie, not only does it turn the tables (as you said) on what keeps us safe but it was different, it may help that my Birthday is the 31st October and this was the first Halloween movie I saw and on my birthday no less.
Once again an amazing vid and thank you so so much for NOT playing that ear worm of song.
Halloween is Australia is 30|04|1963 and 30|04|1982 aand 30|04|2025
This movie's biggest sin is simply having "Halloween" in the title. If you think of it as its own seperate thing it's a pretty creepy, imaginative, and unique horror movie. And god... the image of all the snakes and insects pouring out of that mask where a child's head used to be... that has stayed with me for years. Even now it's hard to watch it without squirming.
I didn't know people thought it was bad, just trying something new that didn't work for audiences. Awesome video as always!
I like the angle of using Stonehenge as a weapon instead of a knife.
When i watched this film back in 1982, my theory was perhaps the message being sent with Halloween 3 was that maybe Michael Myers was actually a serial killer "ROBOT" & that's why he was hard to kill in the first 2 films. This film was the explanation.
Season Of The Witch is fantastic. That speech by Cochran is creepy as fuck.
Yes there's a few cheesy things like the bicycle bell and the fact that a severed arm can't really push onto your throat but who cares. Halloween III is one of my favorites and I watch it every year.
Favorite Halloween sequel... Season Of The Witch.
I’m glad youtube recommended your channel to me! I really in retrospect don’t think the movie was as bad as it had seemed on original viewing. The idea is at least original compared to somewhat copy pasted horror plots that pop up again and again lately, it was fun to rewatch something that was different 😊
What really bewilders me, is how little subscribers you have?! Quality analysis and commentary, mate!
Halloween 4's ending still gives me the creeps. So for that, I'd have to say 4's my favorite.
If Hollywood is going to persist in doing re-makes, this is the sort of thing they SHOULD be re-making.
Not stuff that was already a massive success, but stuff which had so much potential but was let down by problems in script, editing, acting or budget.
I love that you're uploading more and more.
I've always really liked Halloween 3. To me part of the issue was being part of the franchise so people expected Michael Myers so when he wasn't in it it immediately got panned. Considering the schlok of the other sequels Halloween 3 is severely underated.
I personally didnt think is was Terrible. As a matter of fact i enjoyed it more most Halloween Sequels. Pretty sure if they didn't throw Halloween into the title i guarantee the reception wouldve been more positive, considering most people were expecting to see Michael Myers, not knowing it was going for an Anthology series.
I think had this been Halloween 2 and Michael Myers forgotten about Season of The Witch would have been generally accepted. It would have been creepy to never see Michael Myers again with him just disappearing at the end of Halloween. They could have just had different stories every Halloween and it would have worked probably even better with fresh ideas.
pause at 8:08 and look at the picture or mirror or whatever that is just to the left of the door the guy is standing in, is that a picture of meyers? or just something that looks like it as an easter egg? or just a completely normal picture that looks like that cause its dark and all (havnt seen this movie)
Had it been a film outside of the franchise, then yes it's not so bad, but it's not the Halloween we know and love.
It's my favourite Halloween movie out of the franchise. It's genuinely spooky and unsettling.
To me like Dougherty's Trick r Treat this is the other most authentic Halloween holiday themed film it's by no means great but I love the simple concept of a creepy old man playing a "trick"on the kids and that left turn revelation of what the masks do is still one of the boldest unsettling moves I've seen in a mainstream studio film.
I really love Halloween 3. It was different, it took alot of risks and I would argue it's more entertaining than all of the other halloween films
Another great video! My favorite sequel is also Halloween: H20, but I am also very partial to Rob Zombie's interpretation of the first film!
My favorite sequel is the new Halloween from 2018. I saw it at a horror film festival and it truly delivered for me. I really felt that Michael and the series had come home.
About Ally, Ryan, she didn't become an android out of nowhere. Actually, after Shamrock kidnaps her, he kills her and stuffs her with his android tech in order to substitute the old woman android that Dr. Chalis broke earlier in the movie.
It took me some time to realize it, yet it made the movie all the more sinister to me.
What's the music that starts playing at 0:59?
If they continued with the anthology idea, I think that would make Michael Myers in the first 2 movies much scarier. We would never have seen him at his worst
Speaking of 3rd installments in a franchise, the second trailer for Glass, sequel to both Unbreakable and Split, just dropped.