Revisiting The Horror of SLEEPY HOLLOW
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I love this movie, but weirdly, never thought of it as a horror movie, but as a murder-thriller with a supernatural twist
Same. I watched this at 11 when I was terrified of anything horror, still - I considered this movie scary, spooky, but not horror - more of a gothic supernatural murder mystery.
Massao Saito WHAT IS YOUR ACCENT!
It's basically Burton's version of a Hammer film.
I thought of it as a comedic parody and tribute to all the classic horror movies.
I feel the same way about Se7en. Everybody considers it horror, but it's more like the aftermath of a horror movie.
My mother took me to watch this in theatre when I was a child thinking it would be a faithful adaptation of the short story that she studied.. No need to say that I ended up being traumatized and yet obsessed about it. 🥰💖
Little known fact: Ray Park, the guy who played Darth Maul in "Star Wars Episode I" and "Solo", made all the swordplay stunts in "Sleepy Hollow". Great work!
Ah, _Sleepy Hollow_ : this is the most decapitations I have seen in one movie.
You could say, the Movie was a-head of it's Time.
Does your TV not get al Jazeera?
Keith Deegan It's not okay that I laughed about that one.
Watch Flying Guillotine of Death, for many head chops.
Watch your head!
Does anyone else here remember 9? That animated movie that came out on September 9th 2009? I never see people talking about it and its one of my favs.
Bon Zon
I remember it but I haven't ever seen it.
the main issue was that the film was based on a short student film done by a single guy that took like 5 years. it was never really meant to go beyond that short, but apparently Burton loved it so much he wanted it to be made into a feature film.
Bon Zon I remember it and watch it, people dont talk about it cause it wasnt very good. And personally I found it very depressing/disturbing /and I was a fan of tim at the time. The idea that humanity is dead and you can split your 'life force' up to give life to little sand sacks just doesnt sit well with me.
I don't like it. It wears thin very quickly. That's the problem about adapting a short film into feature length... there's just not enough to sustain itself for the full time. It's biggest problem is just being painfully boring.
The problem with that film I think is it’s just too short. Not enough meat to the story or character development.
A human spine for a whip?! Damn Irish, you scary.
Well our werewolves are nice, so we've got that going for us.
Very strange weapon concept though, what are the vertebrae held together with? Magic?
Not a clue man, I'd never heard the version he referenced in this video. But he mentioned that in Ireland The Horseman is an evil faerie with a human spine as a whip. I'll have to look into that at some point as it sounds like yet another story we Yanks have fucked up and made sissy.
Tbh a lot of fairies are pretty metal if you look into it. if I've learned anything from mythology, it's that you do not f*** with the fey.
The headless horseman is probably based off of a Dullahan
@@Trapperz-zz4qm yes I think it is.
I still firmly believe Beetlejuice is his best movie. The story was unique and interesting, Burton's style and aesthetic is on point (and I think the best example of his kind of style), it's one of my favorite cast in any movie, and the dark humor is spot on. Also it's one of the only PG movies ever to get away with an F-bomb and still be PG
This was *my favorite horror movie as a kid.* Precisely because it was creepy but not horrifyingly scary. It had beautiful aesthetics, atmosphere, & a fun mystery to solve. It's still my favorite horror movie, today, as an adult.
I love this film. It's like the best Hammer film that wasn't a Hammer film. I really like the argument against the washington irving critic, it's what I tell everyone close to me.
Very excited for the event horizon video.
I think that Tim Burton settled into his Tim Burton-ness and never really grew as an artist. Many of his movies are: a morally dubious young man tries to amend his relationship with a responsible, kind woman who more or less takes care of him, in a fantastic setting, also everyone is a bit incompetent. That said, my favorite is Edward Scissorhands.
I disagree, Big Fish and Big Eyes were clear departures from his usual style and even though they didn't do great at the box office they're two of his best films
I personally think that casting Johnny Depp over and over and over again didn't help that - regardless of one's stance on Johnny Depp in general, Tim Burton re-using him that many times ends up making it all look like a parody of itself.
Cecile is right, that and the studios always try to make you a “product” so I’m sure that didn’t help. But watch Big Eyes!!!
Cecily Erker
Agree. Big Fish was excellent, and Big Eyes was much different, from anything he's done, while still feeling his presence throughout.
burymeinpink He's a fantastic director. Ed Wood is one of the best films of all time
I watch this movie every year around Halloween time because it just so perfectly captures that delicate balance between campy fun and genuine horror that Halloween represents, at least to me.
Also, 90's Burton felt fresh and interesting while 2000's Burton feels tired and re-hashed.
Tangentially related, but once during a lecture in my American history class, my professor described the plot of Washington Irving’s original book by giving a Cliff’s Notes version of this movie. Gotta love community college professors.
Let me start by saying that I LOVE this film. Sure it made changes, but they really do make for a rich, fascinating tale. However, I must say, the original story isn't quite so devoid of depth or interesting themes as one might think. In the original story, you get the sense that the people of Sleepy Hollow are perfectly happy with their lifestyle, their customs and whatnot, and in comes Ichabod Crane to ruin the fun. He's not just a jerk, he's the true villain of the piece. Washington Irving's story was about a rural village that was perfectly content with their old ways of living, and Ichabod Crane was an alien invader from the future, meant to represent the encroaching threat of modernity, which Irving saw as very arrogant, godless, and ultimately weak. Ichabod was a pest and Brom Bones and the rest of the village just wanted to make Sleepy Hollow great again.
Which is why what Tim Burton did is so damn interesting, because he totally flips the script. Like, it's a full thematic inversion. Burton saw Ichabod Crane as his favorite and most relatable character archetype, the outsider. The misfit. To Burton's film, modernity and progressive thinking will ultimately save us from the puritanical barbarism and superstitious cowardice in our past that has haunted us. Even the approach to the supernatural, which is never in any doubt, is not immune to this conflict between the old and the new. In the old days the supernatural, that which cannot be explained or understood, inspired fear and hatred and violence. By the end of the film, Ichabod accepts the existence of the supernatural, accepts that there are things he can't understand, and he's fine with it. Where men of the old days would have burned witches like his mother, or Katrina, he is accepting. He's not like your average Lovecraftian protagonist, driven to insanity and despair by such revelations. If anything he's made a better man, not a worse one.
This is fascinating because here you have an original work and an adaptation that are 100% at odds with each other, in terms of how they see the coming of the modern age and how they see men like Ichabod versus men like Brom Bones. And yet, the adaptation isn't crippled by this in the least. How many adaptations can you see pull this off today? Imagine if there had been fans of Washington Irving's work with the same feeling of entitlement as too many of today's Star Wars fans. Tim Burton completely turned the story upside down! And it works!!!
Star Wars fans aren't entitled. They're just upset that people waited over three decades to find out what happened to Han, Luke, and Leia, only to have all three of those characters killed off in one film after the other and their stories replaced with those of brand new barely-developed that characters nobody wanted and nobody asked for to begin with. Entitled? No. They just expected better, because the story that George Lucas created deserved better.
Jesus christ get a life size of your comment 😂😂😂😂😂
Accepting witches is a big part of why society breaks down.
This is honestly one of my favorite tim burton movies. It's become a halloween tradition or one I put on when I'm feeling like having some creepy fun. Thanks for this video im gonna share it
You sure need to keep your head on straight to tackle this
*seinfeld theme begins playing*
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Yeah but what about the horse? No one ever talks about the horses motives
It just wants to spend more time with his master instead of being dead :)
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Oh yeah. Literally from Hell
@@Joawlisdoingfine at least they got the address right
I love this movie. I never considered it horror but rather a detective myself. But the set and cinematography are amazingly done and the characters are interesting and while silly still maintain their ability porttrait the seriousness of the events. It's a fun mood setting film.
Congrats, Ryan. You've convinced me to rewatch this film that I haven't seen since college.
Also looking forward to your video on 'Event Horizon'.
This movie deserves all the love it can get. Thanks for doing it some justice.
I would love to hear you talk about Sweeney Todd, in particular the way Tim Burton's style impacted some of the story (such as how Todd in the film is depicted as much younger than his stage counterpart, or the complete change in personality for Mrs. Lovett).
Great analysis. I've always thought this movie stood out so well because it was like a modern Hammer film with the classic German Expressionistic (is that a word?) technique of the atmosphere so vividly reflecting the qualities of the characters.
I loved Tim Burtons sleepy hollow, i liked how it was like following a case and how it was styled in that gothic setting, very much like hammer horror i think.
That scene with the mother in the Iron Maiden scared the shit out of me when I was younger
Another note to the movie, I absolutely loved the costume designs and soundtrack!
I love the original story, this movie and the Disney version!
I love Irving's original story. His descriptive writing really takes you into the period, the town, and the season. It mixes mystery, romance, humor, and supernatural spooks all into one great work. I also absolutely adore everything about this film. It's ok that it isn't a direct rendering of the story. It's like a reimagining and yet it still stays faithful to the overall tone of the original story imo, even if the details are different. If that makes sense? The humor, mystery, romance, and spookiness are all still there. It looks AMAZING. Probably one of my favorite ghost stories and one of my favorite movies of all time.
Since the Horseman is Hessian just like me, heres a little story: My Mother saw this movie at its release here in Germany so when they dramatically said "the Hessian" the entire theater burst into laughter.
Tim Burton's attempt at making a Hammer film, underlined by Christopher Lee being the one who sends Ichabod to Sleepy Hollow is absolutely gorgeous and dripping with atmosphere. It's worth seeing just to appreciate the imagery.
Also, it's my favorite Depp performance. I love how he turns Ichabod into a heroic fraidy-cat, especially his habit of ducking behind anyone else for cover. And at one point he's even using his kid sidekick as a human shield. Oh and Christopher Walken as the Horseman is all the recommendation you need to watch it!
Thank you for doing EH next week!
One of my favorite guilty pleasures of the 90s
This was great too
For me, *ED WOOD (1994)* is Tim Burton's finest Film.
Yes!!!
I watched it way, way too young and it both traumatized and fascinated me. It's a beautiful, unique film with an enthralling atmosphere that I so desperately wanted to play in on all the sets as a kid.
i love sleepy hollow sm it doesn't take itself too seriously yet still doesn't come across as a spoof? it's more of a murder mystery movie than a horror one but with an intense atmosphere and it holds a special place in my heart tbh
"Evil fairies are the bane of our existence." Hahahaha 😂
Sleepy Hollow is my favorite Tim Burton movie, I just love the look and vibe of the movie. The score is hauntingly awesome and it's just a wonderful creepy movie. Funny that you mention Mars Attacks because that movie scared the crap out of me as a kid and I spent the my last video talking about how much it messed me up as a child. That movie is just so unsettling.
I absolutely love what you do and I'm very proud to see my name at the end of the video! Thank you for sharing your perspective and your love for horror. Keep doing what you do!
Thanks!!
Very cool... Have you ever considered analysing the film Suspiria? It's very interesting and I'd love to hear your thoughts on it
I believe he already did that
That would be awesome since they're making a remake
I love watching this movie around Halloween.
I think that one of the real strengths of this film is that it hearkens back to an original tenet of horror: ghosts and ghouls and wyrd horrors are metaphors of the horror of humans. The whole plot is to do with land ownership and bureaucracy. The reason the witch sends the horseman after everyone is because of the landgrabs by rich landowners, one of the original sins of the United States.
This is how Burton should have styled ‘Dark Shadows’.
I know I’m 3 (or tree) years too late, but, I was waiting for an Irish guy to tackle Sleepy Hollow. I’m surprised no big channels in general have talked about it. The movie is really quite intimate. One of my first dates was going to this movie. We shagged afterwards, the film is near and dear to my heart.
It's really cool to see you cover this one. I used to live in a town called Irvington, named for the author, and originally modeled after Sleepy Hollow before the strip malls opened, so the story has been with me since childhood.
Out of Tim Burton's film collection my personal favorite would probably be Big Eyes.
Umbrella Man hmm never heard of it
Thanks for the tip
My name is not Coupe it's pretty good
I have heard of it and forgot it was by Tim Burton. I will have to check it out. ++
This movie used to scare me so badly when I was a kid, but then again so did movies like Shark Tale and Finding Nemo. I have no idea why.
Doctor DOOF I mean I get Shark tale because the animation did not age well but Nemo idk why
The iron maiden scene gave me nightmares for weeks
Honestly I love this movie even more every time I watch it.
Sleepy Hollow and Event Horizon back to back? I am in love with your channel.
i love the sleepy hollow TV show that ran from 2013 to 2017 on fox for 4 seasons. seasons 1 and 2 are vary good.
Best Tim Burton = either this or Big Fish.
hollandscottthomas Love Big Fish, forgotten classic!
Big Fish is so emotionally draining that it was a one and done for me. This movie, on the other hand, I can watch over and over again.
Event Horizon next week?! Oh hell yeah!
Loved this movie since childhood, also one of my favorite Christopher Walken roles (as small as it was).
Excited for next weeks vid!
This is actually my favorite Burton/ Depp movie.
I remember when my dad showed me this movie. I’m so glad you decided to discuss this movie today!!
One of the first horror movies I ever saw, covered by one of my favourite youtubers! This really is a treat. Thank you for the quality content, it always makes me want to rewatch the movies to see them with fresh eyes and to look out for the concepts and details that you point out in your videos.
It's kind of funny, but when I was a bloodthirsty young kid, I remember being very disappointed by the short story and cartoon. "The dude from the village is the Horseman? What a cop-out! Where's the literal ghost who chops people's heads off, dang it?!" I love the Tim Burton version not only because it's an awesome, atmospheric film on its own, but also because it told the gruesome, macabre story kid!me was always itching to see 😄
0:13 that sentence already earned this video a thumbs up
This is my favorite Johnny Depp role and Tim Burton movie. I love every single thing about it.
This movie was always one of my favorites.
I love this movie, and the tv series made years later. Abraham van brunt was the headless horseman (to some extent) in each, the roles were acted superbly, and i liked the twists that they took with the stories.
I was so happy to see that you made a video on this! Sleepy Hollow is my personal favourite Tim Burton film!
ooh I can't wait for next week, that movie freaked me out so much I cried!
As soon as you mentioned fairies just an instant shiver went down my spin from learning all the old Irish folk tales as a Kid from my aunt. Like the joy I get from all the fairies being sprayed in Labyrinth is overwhelmingly great as my friends wonder what's wrong with me
Holy SHIT!!! You're doing Event Horizon next week?!?! That's one of my favorite movies and you are my favorite movie reviewer!!!! AHHHHHH
❤️❤️❤️😍😍😍😍
Absolutely love this telling of the old tale. Dark af and wonderfully crafted, I usually watch this once every month or so.
This movie scared the hell out of me as a kid, but also sent me into a three year obsession with the headless horseman. One of my favorites
This is my favorite Burton film.
Really enjoyed this one, Ryan. I'll admit I wasn't a fan of this movie when it first came out, but becoming familiar with Hammer Horror films helped me appreciate this a whole lot more today.
Keep up the awesome work, man!
The past 4 years ive made a tradition of watching this on or around halloween
Your goodbye sign off is so sweet! You have a great smile too! I enjoyed how you brought up The Dullahan of Ireland!
He can't pronounce the word 'now' 😂😂😂
I still remember watching Sleepy Hollow for the first time flipping through channels late one night home alone when I was around 12 or 13. Easily enough, it landed on the scene where Ichabod cuts up the Tree with all the bloody heads and the meeting of the witch. I pretty much went NOPE and ran out of my living room disturbed AF.
I finally properly rewatched the whole movie about 5 years later (I had a bit of a Tim Burton phase when I was in my last year of high school) and I loved it and appreciated a whole lot more than I ever did when I was younger.
I even make it a Halloween tradition to watch this film after the Disney short, which I grew up with and loved for its charm (and its use of Bing Crosby). XD
I would really be interested in your thoughts on the tv show 'channel zero'... As someone who is into horror for the better part of my life, I am still really intrigued by this show
4thWallBreaking YES
Great analysis! Love Sleepy Hollow. Went to see it on New Year's Eve with my folks the year it came out.
Really great video man. Think it was your best yet.
OMG CANT WAIT TO HEAR YOU TALKING ABOUT EVENT HORIZON!!!!
I adore this movie. Even as a kid, I was never scared of it. I'd seen the Disney cartoon version a bunch of times, so maybe that's why. That one creeped me a little only because Icabod just was saver heard form again. This one, with it's atmosphere, sense of mystery, the music (which I adore this soundtrack) and the hopeful good ending is like a storybook. I actually used to leave it playing in the background to go to sleep for that very reason when I was in HS. It's dreary enough to be calming in weird comforting way...
Hi, I'm a new fan; great video on Sleepy Hollow! I grew up with the original short story and many old fashioned horror movies. This was a dream come true for me and your review is great. Personally, I figured that the Horseman's attachment to his horse made him sympathetic in some aspects but not too much so since he's a raging lunatic. That's just me though.
So I finally watched this movie yesterday, but I actually grew up a few hours away from Sleepy Hollow. The story of the Headless Horseman was an extremely common Halloween time story in the area and I remember being taken on field trips to see stage versions for multiple years. I know this story inside and out, so it was very surreal seeing this movie which is such a dramatic departure (mainly for the characters of Ichabod and the Horseman). But once I got into the movie, I genuinely loved it, especially the desaturated and foggy look of the whole film. I also found movie Ichabod's cowardice and frailty almost refreshing in a strange way.
I love this film so much- Thank you for giving it attention!
1. As a kid it did scare me a bit.
2. I just notices that half of the Harry Potter cast is in this movie as well.
I always have had such a weakness for this film! And I didn’t even remember most of the scenes you called out. For me, I could never forget that scene where they chop open his tree and it’s full of heads. It was such a spectacular answer to the question of “what does the headless horseman even do with the heads he takes?”
mars attack... beacause it rocks... and because i love b movies about aliens from before the 60's and that movie laught about thoose films so yeah :)
I watch this movie almost every Halloween season, it pays tribute to the Disney adaptation as well as all the other wonderful things that make it one of the best movies to put you in the Halloween spirit. My favorite Tim Burtan film is probably "Sweeney Todd."
Lovely video as always, Ryan. Thank you.
Rember seeing this film years ago. I was too young to understand that the film wasn't trying to take itself too seriously and that ruined my film going experience, but many years later, thanks to you, I have more appreciation for this film, and now I want to go dig around my old DVD collection and find this film and rewatch, but can't. Thanks a lot, Ryan!
Im super hyped for Event Horizon, its one of my favorite horror movies!
I feel like this was an amazing combination of the somewhat off and yet often goofy humor style of Stephen King, the period dread and symbolism of Edgar Poe, the twists and supernatural element inclusion of Sir Arthur Conan Doyle, and the mystery style of the earliest works of Agatha Christie . . . all being made suitable for Pee Wee's Halloween Extravaganza! When I think of Tim Burton, this is the first movie I think of even before The Nightmare Before Christmas; it's his style in practically every way and uses his best possible elements and the actors he paired best with before Helena Bonham Carter and Sasha Baron Cohen.
I watched this film when I was quite young, and haven't seen it since, so it was interesting to see a more in depth analysis than, "that's a lot of decapitation". I always come to this channel and end up nodding the whole time, often Ryan is able to put notions into words that I couldn't express myself. That being said my favourite Tim Burton movie is either Edward Scissorhands or the Corpse Bride; both of which have been with me thoughout my childhood and hold a more nostalgic preference above anything else.
I adored Sleepy Hollows when I was 4 or 5, the plot went slightly over my head but I just loved the costumes, sets and all around vibe of the film. I can still remember my cousin trying to put me to bed when it was on because she thought it was too gruesome and that I’d get nightmares from it. Along with Beetlejuice and The Corpse Bride it’s my favourite Tim Burton film
Love the movie so much it has that mix of melo drama, lighting, music and atmosphere to make it a great Halloween movie.
I quite liked watching this movie, it felt very... fantasy, like you said in that time they have no trouble beleiving yet they still can't do anything.
Its just such a hopeless scenario where you'd ask yourself "what now? where do we go from here? I didn't think I'd get this far..."
Plus the visuals were great. I like that the supernatural things are very physically seen like the chopped heads and roots of the tree just caked in blood as stuff happens. Its a cool effect theme.
Having grown up in Sleepy Hollow, the Washington Irving story's been drilled deep into my head since childhood. You can't leave your house the entire month of October, its so oversaturated. In that sense, I also found this movie refreshing, even though its "unfaithful" to the source material.
This is one of my favorite films to throw on around Halloween time or even just for background noise. It has a great way of being campy without going over the top with the silliness. Might just throw it on later today.
I love listening to director commentaries, and when I listened to this one, the majority of the dialogue was, "johnny depp is such a good actor. He's sooooo good. I love johnny depp. johnny Depp. I love him so much. Such a good actor." Fifteen minutes in and I turned it off because I was sick to death already.
If you had stuck around, he actually sucks Depp off at the 45 minute mark.
I feel like it's almost illegal to talk about Tim Burton without talking about The Nightmare Before Christmas (even though he didn't direct it).
I have mixed feelings about Sweeney Todd. Like, Tim Burton is probably the obvious choice for something like it: macabre, melodramatic, plenty of gallows humor... The transfer from musical to screenplay went very well... yet... I always feel like something special about the original musical didn't make it into the movie, even if I can't put my finger on what it is. And I always wonder if another director would've managed it. Maybe not. Adapting stage musicals to film is complicated business, and I think something will always be lost.
Sweeney Todd to be honest is the only movie I've ever walked out of in a movie theatre. I thought it was absolutely dreadful, and so did the others I was there with. With Burton using his signature style and adding nothing original, as well as casting the same people he always works with, it was honestly more like a bad parody of himself and his work than anything else... "here's the same thing again, except we burst into song". No.
Cats in Real Life For myself I just never liked the movie as much as the original musical, Johnny Depp for me never had the intensity of Sweeny that George Hearn did and Depp was too damn young to portray Sweeny who has remember been in prison for some years, having an older man ala Hearn just made more sense in that regard IMHO.
I for one liked it, but I must admit that I've never seen another version. The casting was good, the music was awesome and the look for me really complemented the story.
This is some of your best work
I always look forward to your uploads. And "Event Horizon"! It's like Christmas in July!
This is my favorite Burton film, and one of my top favorite films of all time. I gave my first short very similar aesthetics and style, which was an Edgar Allan Poe story (The Tell-Tale Heart).
Great dissection.
I always enjoyed this film... it has a special place for me because it's the first R rated film that my mom let me watch growing up (I watched other before that she just didn't know....) looking back I feel like it would have been better in a Victorian setting instead of colonial setting. The visuals and the tone imply its 1899 instead of 1799. The rise in industrialization vs folklore and superstition seems to fit the Victorian era more... but that's just my opinion. Other than that it's a fun film to watch.
If anyone's looking for any period drama/gothic horror I recommend checking out the BBC's Living and the Dead. Only one season but I enjoyed it.
Haven't seen this in ages, but the clips from this video really showcases the perfect halloween mood in every single scenery. Still, I would argue that Disney's cartoon of sleepy hollow did it incredibly well but both are great.
Well Ryan, generally speaking The Headless Horseman, and the Irish creature you talk about, The Dullahan, are different creatures but I can see where you're coming from, I imagine The Headless Horseman likely originates from the old Irish tales of the Dullahan, as it likely came with the Irish immigrants, and slowly morphed into the tale as we know it today
One of my all time favourites! Saw this in the cinema many many many times as a kid (yes... I know). This+Nightmare before christman made me fall in love with Tim Burton's work.
I think this is my favorite Tim Burton film. Thanks so much for giving it the video essay treatment, brilliant work.