The little sigma primes were my first thought when the S9 came out, and it's crazy that more people haven't thought to combine these lenses with the S9.
@@englematic I wish I had contact at Panasonic to really highlight this combination and get my hands on an S9 for more than an hour or two, but I called the sigma immediately when this combination came to mine and I hope they sell more lenses because it’s really a great combination
@RhettThompsonFilm I'm planning on waiting for black Friday to see what deals are available and pick up an S9 and a couple of the sigma primes. I've been shooting a GX85 for the last several years and the S9 with some small primes feels like a worthy successor.
I just wish lumix made a 40 pancake like their 20 for m43. While the sigmas are smaller than other primes, the L mount desperately needs some pancakes.
Really enjoyed watching your video. Plenty of shots and product comment. The only thing I'd have like more clarity on which lens on being shown so I'd have clearer idea of size. I hope Sigma seem a lot of these to S9 users. If Panasonic had swallowed some pride and laughed the S9 with these Sigmas handed to influencers, perhaps the launch would have been more positively received
Dude I ALWAYS love your lens videos! So well done every single time! I like both types btw. If it's a series I definitely like this type better than going through EACH lens. But for a special type of lens like cinema lenses were each character matters than I'd prefer a more detailed review.
Thanks for stopping by and yea man if I could only review lenses I could! I love it. I tried to include a ton of info and then sent them back so we will see!
Thank you. Don’t use L mount but do own quite a few Sigma I-Series on my Sony A7CII and A7CR. Currently have the 24/2, 35/2, 50/2, 65/2, and 90/2.8. Thinking of giving the 17/4 a try. We will see. Take care.
@@stevenwaldstein2249 I couldn’t believe how much I enjoyed it! The aperture isn’t really a limiting factor with the low light performance of the Sony and Lumix cameras and in fact, it helps more stuff getting focused, which is typically what you want for a wide angle lens. It’s also really handy for things like real estate establishing shots gimbal work and vlogs.
Great video, and good to see these lenses with the S9 getting more attention, it's a great match up. I have the 45mm F2.8 currently (love how tiny it is) and I think a good trio would be the 17mm F4 and the 90mm F2.8, focusing on getting the most variety, smallest lenses of the series, and least overlap 👍
i have the sigma 17 - on an S5ii and S5 though....I use the in body ex. tele converter at the middle range and get nicer framing for impromptu people shots when traveling....it's a great tool for travel photos, but not paid work, as it knocks the megapixels down in half - though Lumix says there's no quality change. That 17 makes carrying the S5ii around for a day with the family a pleasure. Also - it does great with the APS-C crop for video too. The 35 is beautiful, tried to buy a used one at a brick and mortar, but the clerk fell in love with it as we were checking it out on a camera in the shot, and he kept it for himself and I went with a used 65 instead - it's my go to portrait lens now.
Nice video - thanks. I have a A7R5 but fancy a S9 as a second camera with the upcoming zoom lens. I shoot social media so portrait nearly 100%, I don't shoot log, but like the look of the stabilisation. I'm hoping having two brands won't flex my brain to much. Do you think I should try and learn to shoot vlog. I mainly shoot inside being from the UK
Hearing you mention "element of fun" and hearing how their marketing guy berated Robin Wong with "dont you find photography fun?!" It seems that was the way they're trying to sell these cameras. These lenses are small-ish but Panasonic really needs pancake lenses.
@@marklion315 I kind of remember that video but I don’t think I watched it really. The point I guess I was trying to make was that it is fun to use this camera and these lenses enable that a little bit more than some larger ones. Good balance of size performance fun and professional results
Honestly with how good these cameras are F2 is fine. Not sure 1.8 or 1.4 would be night and day but there’s plenty of large Lumix is sigma lenses out there
@@RhettThompsonFilm thanks but that is probably the number one question your viewers want to know and a link with current prices would be helpful and could help fund your channel with referral fees? We know they always change. That's why a link would be cool. Just a thought.
I have the Sigma 35mm f2 for my S9. The build quality of this lens is really spectacular, but a bit front heavy for the S9 (even with Smallrig handgrip) so maybe I will exchange that with the Sigma 45mm f2.8 and then I will patiently waiting for Lumix S 18-40mm kit zoom for more compact setup. Beside of that, I have two 35mm manual focus lenses for the S9: a 7Artisans 35mm f1.4 mark III and an adapted Fujica 38mm f2.8, lens for compact camera that stupidly weightless lol
How do you like 7Artisans 35 f1.4 mark III ? Is rendering nicer than on Sigma 35 f2 ? And is it hard to get the focus right with S9 ? I now have Panasonic 35 f1.8 only but I am looking at both Sigma 35 f2 and this 7Artisans lens but not sure about manual focus. Panasonic 35mm lens is quite boring and clinical I would say but colors are really nice.
I was contemplating buying an S9 so I loaned it for a weekend for free through panasonic loans. Used the 45mm Sigma with it which I bought for pretty cheap second hand (rationale if i end up not wanting the camera I could sell for very little if any loss). Killer combo, ordered the S9 at the end of that weekend and I think the 45mm had a lot to do with it.
I would loan the 45mm to see how the autofocus works. My copy has a hard time with something as basic as walking towards the camera (s5ii) and I've read online that this is normal. The 35mm has better autofocus supposedly.
@@MrRafalEn The rendering is full of classic "characters". Swirly bokeh,a bit busy OOF rendering, only sharp at the center (the corner was soft, even at f8), field curvature, and sometimes I get a strange golden flare (which I really like, actually). Beside any of these weaknesses, I love it because this lens and the Sigma was like Hulk and Bruce Banner lol. Same focal length but very different personality. Build quality of the 7artisans 35mm f1.4 iii is excellent if you compare to smaller (and cheaper) lenses from same brand. Focusing ring is buttery smooth (love it), and you can declicked the aperture ring if you want to. The Lumix S9 is good enough for manual focusing. I miss my GH5' big and excellent viewfinder, but S9 have a bright monitor (+3 brightness was almost as bright as my 1000nit++ smartphone's display), the focus peaking is accurate, and you can always zoom in for better visibility. If you want to know the characters that I mention, please check my latest video. All the footage was shoot with the S9 and the 7artisans 35mm f1.4 iii.
I'm looking at the 65 and the lumix 50/1.8 for portraits and general documentary style shooting. My main lens is the 24-105. The 65 i like the build, it's very sharp, renders a little warm, and gets you more compression. The 50 1.8 is a but lighter, a bit more generic/neutral look to it, and comes in significantly cheaper. Tough call. Any suggestions? The 45 2.8 is another option, but i think the extra light will be nice to have especially taking indoor portraits of people in their homes which tend to be dimly lit in the country where i live.
lack of IBIS was the main reason I never bought an FP-L, lovely camera otherwise. Wouldn't have bought the add on EVF anyway apart from the lag, it is too expensive and too bulky
I am a Sony Emount shooter (A7C & A7IV) and own the Sigma, 24mm, f3.5, DG DN and the Sigma 90mm, f2.8, DG DN. Some shy away from the 24, f3.5 because of the f3.5 aperature, but I Love it for its beautiful color rendition, close focus distance, and minimal barrel distortion,(but even that is manageable with in camera correction without stretching the image). As much as I like the 24mm, the 90mm (not featured here), is quite a fantastic engineering marvel of a lens. It is just as small as the 24mm f3.5, but returns beautiful images at 90mm, (can extend to 135mm with APSC super 35 mode).
Oh I was searching for the info and there is not much about it. This video is perfect. Did you have a chance to compare Panasonic 35 f1.8 and Sigma 35 f2 ? I am wondering which lens has more character and nicer rendering ?
Those things are so subjective that it’s really hard to say. The sigma definitely has a little bit of that swirly look and more cats eye but also a lot sharper than the Panasonic. Is there anything in particular you want to know?
@@RhettThompsonFilm Most of the technical aspects you took care of in this review. I was asking of general feel if you like images from Panasonic or Sigma better ? I have Panasonic 35 but I don't know, it doesn't speak to me. Colors are nice but general look is quite boring. For comparison lenses like 35 f1.4 from Fuji or old Nikon 58mm f1.4 have so special look that I just love them although technically they are really flawed.
@@MrRafalEn I’ll have to think about this a little little bit more, but it sounds like I think you would enjoy the look of the sigma more initially but I like them both so haha what do I know
@@RhettThompsonFilm yes words are spreading its the best lens for s9 , but do you think is it a right decision to choose the sigma 35mm over because i am a video person and when i turn in that stabilisation mode some crop will happen ?
Man, after watching the video again it makes me wonder what prime series might be better these or the Lumix S series hehe. Have you used the S Primes Rhett?
@@loiccardenas I had but sold the 50 and I do still have the 35! Overall, I would just say that with the prime lenses I think Panasonic is slightly better for Video and sigma is slightly better for Photo but of course it’s a little bit more complicated than that
Really cool lenses, it's a shame the S9 has several big compromises (no EVF or mechanical shutter) in order to be as small as it is haha. These are probably killer for the A7Cii
@@loiccardenas for what the camera was intended for those compromises make sense! I don’t think an E shutter would have ever hurt any photos I got shown in this video
Hello, something's strange, have you really used the S9 in Canada ? Or is it just about the lenses ? Nice vid thus, congrat. I would have picked the 24f2 instead of the 3.5 but beside that, I already have the three others, they're nice. I just have a strange play in the hood of the 17mm have you? The 65mm has a unique feature, if you open your other eye you'll see the magnification of an EVF matches your real vision. Oh but the S9 has no EVF just remembered
Sorry for the confusion! I did mention it in the video briefly all the sample images featured were shot on the S5ii, and I simply wanted to use the S9 to display the size and balance of these lenses on a system dedicated to small size
zve1 + a cheap prime is better value. panasonic should've released a set of compact primes with this or (even better) make it mft instead of full frame.
The little sigma primes were my first thought when the S9 came out, and it's crazy that more people haven't thought to combine these lenses with the S9.
@@englematic I wish I had contact at Panasonic to really highlight this combination and get my hands on an S9 for more than an hour or two, but I called the sigma immediately when this combination came to mine and I hope they sell more lenses because it’s really a great combination
@RhettThompsonFilm I'm planning on waiting for black Friday to see what deals are available and pick up an S9 and a couple of the sigma primes. I've been shooting a GX85 for the last several years and the S9 with some small primes feels like a worthy successor.
I bought the 45mm before the S9 was delivered. Glad I did.
The 24mm, 45mm, and 90mm make a stellar travel setup. And, they share the same filter size!
@@jklphoto I might have to see if they’ll send me a few more lenses to try those last few focal lengths!
You have the most diverse and unique lumix-based videos. Thank you
@@SteveMayedaTV wow high praise! I’m doing my best out here haha
Sheeeshh! The photos were dope! Love the content Rhett
Awesome work, Rhett! Well done mate! These Sigma lenses look fantastic!
@@GeekyNerdyTechy thanks man! This was a ton of fun to put together!
I just wish lumix made a 40 pancake like their 20 for m43. While the sigmas are smaller than other primes, the L mount desperately needs some pancakes.
I completely agree! Like the Nikon 40mm prime.
I would immediately buy a 40mm pancake for LM.
Desperately is the perfect word. Hopefully LUMIX is listening to this feedback. Love the L mount so I’m rooting for them.
And might I add, prime autofocus lenses that you can change the f stop
40mm is one of my favorite focal lengths
Man, with content like this, it's a shame you don't have more subscribers! Hopefully the algorithm keeps swinging in your favour.
@@deanisplemoni I’m generally a pretty humble person but I actually agree with you! Definitely hope I can continue to do this for a while now
Huge thanks for this work,Rhett!!!
I appreciate you watching! Im glad sigma sent these to me!
Good video mate. Straight in no waffle. Brilliant.
I tried to get as much information in this video without making it overly long so I appreciate that!
Nice video man ! Gotta agree, my S9 + Sigma 45mm has been pretty sweet ! No complaints !
Man, you could do some amazing work with like the 17 mm and the 45 mm I’
@@RhettThompsonFilm I need to check out the 17mm ! Wide focal lengths like that not really my cup of tea but, I'm open to it ! lol.
@@TopshelfJunior maybe 20 or 24mm would be better then? I liked it for this trip of course but I can see its usefulness!
Super helpful… Would’ve loved to see the 45mm as well but this is an awesome demo. Thanks! Subbed
Great lens but also I felt like it had the most coverage and so I asked for some others to try out
Excellent Presentation! Very Clean and Precise!!!
I do my best!
I’ve never set foot in a brick and mortar camera store. I didn’t even know any existed in Chicago. 😂😂
Really enjoyed watching your video. Plenty of shots and product comment. The only thing I'd have like more clarity on which lens on being shown so I'd have clearer idea of size. I hope Sigma seem a lot of these to S9 users. If Panasonic had swallowed some pride and laughed the S9 with these Sigmas handed to influencers, perhaps the launch would have been more positively received
Dude I ALWAYS love your lens videos! So well done every single time! I like both types btw. If it's a series I definitely like this type better than going through EACH lens. But for a special type of lens like cinema lenses were each character matters than I'd prefer a more detailed review.
Thanks for stopping by and yea man if I could only review lenses I could! I love it. I tried to include a ton of info and then sent them back so we will see!
Nice work! The 65mm looks great. I think the LUMIX 18-40mm f4.5 will be an excellent match for the S9… once it is released.
I am patiently awaiting those reviews to come out!
Thank you. Don’t use L mount but do own quite a few Sigma I-Series on my Sony A7CII and A7CR. Currently have the 24/2, 35/2, 50/2, 65/2, and 90/2.8. Thinking of giving the 17/4 a try. We will see. Take care.
@@stevenwaldstein2249 I couldn’t believe how much I enjoyed it! The aperture isn’t really a limiting factor with the low light performance of the Sony and Lumix cameras and in fact, it helps more stuff getting focused, which is typically what you want for a wide angle lens.
It’s also really handy for things like real estate establishing shots gimbal work and vlogs.
Great video, and good to see these lenses with the S9 getting more attention, it's a great match up.
I have the 45mm F2.8 currently (love how tiny it is) and I think a good trio would be the 17mm F4 and the 90mm F2.8, focusing on getting the most variety, smallest lenses of the series, and least overlap 👍
Those three lenses would be an amazing combo! That 90mm especially interestes me
Finally…thank you! Do wish the camera itself was weather sealed!
Of course I wish every camera was but I understand why it wasnt. Honestly Id take weather sealing over an EVF or Mechanical Shutter any day.
Very informative video, and the photos look great to me!
Awesome, thank you! I am no photographer by any means but with locations like that its hard to take too bad of a shot!
I have the 65mm f2 and have taken some of my all time favorite images with that lens on my Sigma fp and the Lumix S1R.
I wish I could get my hands on an S1R for resolution tests but I’ve got no doubt the 65 can handle that high res pretty easily
i have the sigma 17 - on an S5ii and S5 though....I use the in body ex. tele converter at the middle range and get nicer framing for impromptu people shots when traveling....it's a great tool for travel photos, but not paid work, as it knocks the megapixels down in half - though Lumix says there's no quality change. That 17 makes carrying the S5ii around for a day with the family a pleasure. Also - it does great with the APS-C crop for video too. The 35 is beautiful, tried to buy a used one at a brick and mortar, but the clerk fell in love with it as we were checking it out on a camera in the shot, and he kept it for himself and I went with a used 65 instead - it's my go to portrait lens now.
very nice video. btw where did u get the music from at the very beginning
For image quality they introduce a purplelish color to the image compared to the Panasonic primes
@@henrysantiago5997 they’re definitely cooler and maybe more purple yea
Nice video - thanks. I have a A7R5 but fancy a S9 as a second camera with the upcoming zoom lens. I shoot social media so portrait nearly 100%, I don't shoot log, but like the look of the stabilisation. I'm hoping having two brands won't flex my brain to much. Do you think I should try and learn to shoot vlog. I mainly shoot inside being from the UK
@@markshirley01 vlog isn’t different from SLOG but yea it’s very powerful. Maybe even consider Cinematch to transform it to SLOG?
Hearing you mention "element of fun" and hearing how their marketing guy berated Robin Wong with "dont you find photography fun?!" It seems that was the way they're trying to sell these cameras. These lenses are small-ish but Panasonic really needs pancake lenses.
@@marklion315 I kind of remember that video but I don’t think I watched it really. The point I guess I was trying to make was that it is fun to use this camera and these lenses enable that a little bit more than some larger ones. Good balance of size performance fun and professional results
Thats awesome you got sigma to send lenses
I did have to give em back haha
@@RhettThompsonFilm still though dude!
24mm is my favourite focal length, if only it was faster than f3.5. as the size looks perfect for the s9.
@@dezem7 there’s a F2 I think but it’s bigger
No Sigma-I lenses for low light (below F2) as part of the evaluation ? What would your suggestion?
Honestly with how good these cameras are F2 is fine. Not sure 1.8 or 1.4 would be night and day but there’s plenty of large Lumix is sigma lenses out there
Prices?
They’re all online. Prices change so I typically don’t talk about that too too much
@@RhettThompsonFilm thanks but that is probably the number one question your viewers want to know and a link with current prices would be helpful and could help fund your channel with referral fees?
We know they always change.
That's why a link would be cool.
Just a thought.
@@Tigerex966 that would probably be smart haha I’ll try! I guess that’s why they do those affiliate links
@@RhettThompsonFilm lol❤️
Thanks! Keep up the good work
Thanks, will do!
I have the Sigma 35mm f2 for my S9. The build quality of this lens is really spectacular, but a bit front heavy for the S9 (even with Smallrig handgrip) so maybe I will exchange that with the Sigma 45mm f2.8 and then I will patiently waiting for Lumix S 18-40mm kit zoom for more compact setup. Beside of that, I have two 35mm manual focus lenses for the S9: a 7Artisans 35mm f1.4 mark III and an adapted Fujica 38mm f2.8, lens for compact camera that stupidly weightless lol
How do you like 7Artisans 35 f1.4 mark III ? Is rendering nicer than on Sigma 35 f2 ? And is it hard to get the focus right with S9 ? I now have Panasonic 35 f1.8 only but I am looking at both Sigma 35 f2 and this 7Artisans lens but not sure about manual focus. Panasonic 35mm lens is quite boring and clinical I would say but colors are really nice.
I was contemplating buying an S9 so I loaned it for a weekend for free through panasonic loans. Used the 45mm Sigma with it which I bought for pretty cheap second hand (rationale if i end up not wanting the camera I could sell for very little if any loss). Killer combo, ordered the S9 at the end of that weekend and I think the 45mm had a lot to do with it.
I would loan the 45mm to see how the autofocus works. My copy has a hard time with something as basic as walking towards the camera (s5ii) and I've read online that this is normal. The 35mm has better autofocus supposedly.
@@MrRafalEn The rendering is full of classic "characters". Swirly bokeh,a bit busy OOF rendering, only sharp at the center (the corner was soft, even at f8), field curvature, and sometimes I get a strange golden flare (which I really like, actually). Beside any of these weaknesses, I love it because this lens and the Sigma was like Hulk and Bruce Banner lol. Same focal length but very different personality.
Build quality of the 7artisans 35mm f1.4 iii is excellent if you compare to smaller (and cheaper) lenses from same brand. Focusing ring is buttery smooth (love it), and you can declicked the aperture ring if you want to.
The Lumix S9 is good enough for manual focusing. I miss my GH5' big and excellent viewfinder, but S9 have a bright monitor (+3 brightness was almost as bright as my 1000nit++ smartphone's display), the focus peaking is accurate, and you can always zoom in for better visibility.
If you want to know the characters that I mention, please check my latest video. All the footage was shoot with the S9 and the 7artisans 35mm f1.4 iii.
@@vrapan I get it, small camera and small lens is the killer combo for sure. How about the autofocus?
I'm looking at the 65 and the lumix 50/1.8 for portraits and general documentary style shooting. My main lens is the 24-105. The 65 i like the build, it's very sharp, renders a little warm, and gets you more compression. The 50 1.8 is a but lighter, a bit more generic/neutral look to it, and comes in significantly cheaper. Tough call. Any suggestions? The 45 2.8 is another option, but i think the extra light will be nice to have especially taking indoor portraits of people in their homes which tend to be dimly lit in the country where i live.
I do miss a view finder on the S9, how do you find the S5 compares as I am thinking of ‘down grading’ the S9 to an S5. I think the S5II is too big.
I do miss the S5 and love its small size if you dont mind the record limits in some modes and no PDAF
Sadly Sigma didn‘t equip FP series with ibis.
Curious to know if Lumix S9 has a better LCD lag than Sigma FP.
lol
lack of IBIS was the main reason I never bought an FP-L, lovely camera otherwise. Wouldn't have bought the add on EVF anyway apart from the lag, it is too expensive and too bulky
I am a Sony Emount shooter (A7C & A7IV) and own the Sigma, 24mm, f3.5, DG DN and the Sigma 90mm, f2.8, DG DN. Some shy away from the 24, f3.5 because of the f3.5 aperature, but I Love it for its beautiful color rendition, close focus distance, and minimal barrel distortion,(but even that is manageable with in camera correction without stretching the image). As much as I like the 24mm, the 90mm (not featured here), is quite a fantastic engineering marvel of a lens. It is just as small as the 24mm f3.5, but returns beautiful images at 90mm, (can extend to 135mm with APSC super 35 mode).
Oh I was searching for the info and there is not much about it. This video is perfect. Did you have a chance to compare Panasonic 35 f1.8 and Sigma 35 f2 ? I am wondering which lens has more character and nicer rendering ?
Those things are so subjective that it’s really hard to say. The sigma definitely has a little bit of that swirly look and more cats eye but also a lot sharper than the Panasonic. Is there anything in particular you want to know?
@@RhettThompsonFilm Most of the technical aspects you took care of in this review. I was asking of general feel if you like images from Panasonic or Sigma better ? I have Panasonic 35 but I don't know, it doesn't speak to me. Colors are nice but general look is quite boring. For comparison lenses like 35 f1.4 from Fuji or old Nikon 58mm f1.4 have so special look that I just love them although technically they are really flawed.
@@MrRafalEn I’ll have to think about this a little little bit more, but it sounds like I think you would enjoy the look of the sigma more initially but I like them both so haha what do I know
Could hybrid zoom be used on Sigma 28-70?
I’m honestly not sure
@ all good. Thank you for reply!
what are your thoughts on sigma 45mm f 2.8 ?
Haven’t used it so I can’t say directly but a lot of people seem to like it!
@@RhettThompsonFilm yes words are spreading its the best lens for s9 , but do you think is it a right decision to choose the sigma 35mm over because i am a video person and when i turn in that stabilisation mode some crop will happen ?
Man, after watching the video again it makes me wonder what prime series might be better these or the Lumix S series hehe. Have you used the S Primes Rhett?
@@loiccardenas I had but sold the 50 and I do still have the 35! Overall, I would just say that with the prime lenses I think Panasonic is slightly better for Video and sigma is slightly better for Photo but of course it’s a little bit more complicated than that
Really cool lenses, it's a shame the S9 has several big compromises (no EVF or mechanical shutter) in order to be as small as it is haha. These are probably killer for the A7Cii
@@loiccardenas for what the camera was intended for those compromises make sense! I don’t think an E shutter would have ever hurt any photos I got shown in this video
Nice
Hello, something's strange, have you really used the S9 in Canada ? Or is it just about the lenses ? Nice vid thus, congrat. I would have picked the 24f2 instead of the 3.5 but beside that, I already have the three others, they're nice. I just have a strange play in the hood of the 17mm have you? The 65mm has a unique feature, if you open your other eye you'll see the magnification of an EVF matches your real vision. Oh but the S9 has no EVF just remembered
Sorry for the confusion! I did mention it in the video briefly all the sample images featured were shot on the S5ii, and I simply wanted to use the S9 to display the size and balance of these lenses on a system dedicated to small size
65mm is the best one, but none of the f2 primes are compact. Shame they won’t make a real pancake to protect the Q.
zve1 + a cheap prime is better value. panasonic should've released a set of compact primes with this or (even better) make it mft instead of full frame.
@@argreg04 yea but then you have to admit you shoot on S*ny. Have you considered that?
@@RhettThompsonFilm😂🔥