Digimon World Dawn is a Waste of Time - Casp
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- Опубліковано 11 лип 2024
- The Digimon World Dusk video that some idiot made has since been removed. Thanks for dating my video, jerk.
Even with the rough script, I still made a video. yay go me I do what thousands of people do every minute of every day on youtube.
#Digimon #DigimonGames #DigimonStory
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Games featured in this video in order of appearance:
Digimon World Dawn/Digimon Story Sunburst (NDS)
Digimon World DS/Digimon Story (NDS)
Digimon World: Data Squad/Digimon Savers: Another Mission (PS2)
Digimon Story: Cyber Sleuth (PS4)
Digimon World: Next Order (PS4/Vita)
Digimon World (PS1)
Gal*Gun: Double Peace (PC/PS4/Vita)
Digimon World 3 (PS1)
Pokemon Yellow (GBC)
Pokemon Omega Ruby/Alpha Sapphire (3DS)
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Music used in this video in order of appearance:
Battle Theme 1 - Digimon World Dawn/Dusk (Digimon Story Sunburst/Moonlight)
Crisis! - Digimon World Dawn/Dusk (Digimon Story Sunburst/Moonlight)
Darkmoon City Theme - Digimon World Dawn/Dusk (Digimon Story Sunburst/Moonlight)
Macro Sea - Digimon World Dawn/Dusk (Digimon Story Sunburst/Moonlight)
Sunshine City Theme - Digimon World Dawn/Dusk (Digimon Story Sunburst/Moonlight)
Battle Theme 2 - Digimon World Dawn/Dusk (Digimon Story Sunburst/Moonlight)
Shadow Abyss - Digimon World Dawn/Dusk (Digimon Story Sunburst/Moonlight)
Chaos Brain - Digimon World Dawn/Dusk (Digimon Story Sunburst/Moonlight)
3 Members to the Zukkoke Pirates - Alundra 2
(I have no idea what the real names of the songs are, but this is what they're listed as, and they're all magical.)
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Oh hey finally something that's not a fucking livestream
I'm sorry. I've been trying to balance that shit out. Might have to make a stream channel, because I don't want to flood this channel with shit.
Casp O'saurus Hey dude, as long as there are more videos at all I'm good
Your stuff is some of what I look forward to the most
I wish there was an option for people to disable live streams popping up in their sub feeds, just do that I could stream, and people who don't care about that wouldn't be bogged down in a torrent of temporary thumbnails. That said, the upload output is going to be way faster from here on. I've been lazy and working long hours, but dedication time!
i know it is pretty off topic but do anybody know a good website to stream new series online?
@Sage Seth Flixportal xD
I loved this game as a kid. Your opinion is invalid my nostalgia is too strong.
I respect a nostalgia that strong. More power to you, my friend.
Facts. I beat this junk 7 times and loved it each time
The force is strong with this one. Dusk and dawn are amazing
@@Caspicum 😂😂😂
Lunamon and Coronamon are as familiar to me as Peanut Butter and Jelly
Great video, I personally loved this game. The reason could be because it's one of the few Digimon games for the Ds, and it was also the first Digimon game that I had played, so it holds a special place in my heart. I can never hate this game.
I've said it before, but if you can love something even if you're aware of all its flaws, then *das true luv*. More power to you, friend.
I agree I prefer dawn and dusk though I see the flaws of them compared to the past games and the current games. Like Zerodex Dawn and Dusk was my first digimon games and love them, though I do agree on the grind I have beat the game half a dozen times to a point to where I figured out the best way to get Max stats and make your team unbeatable.
Anyways great video keep up the awesome work
Casp O'saurus one thing I gotta disagree on was getting platinum rank is fairly easy,with the help of items I did it as soon as I finished the story,it's like the elite 4 in Pokemon just stack up on revives and potions.
digimon story cyber sluth games are just adding all the digimon from dawn and dusk look at this. digimon.wikia.com/wiki/Digimon_World_Dawn_and_Dusk/Digimon_Gallery
witch may give a hint to the digimon in the next story game
You'd think digimon would've added repels by this point, after the trauma from Digimon World 3. My God, that game took forever
Data Squad had them, but only really allowed you to access them at the end of the game. The idea was there, they just didn't utilize it!!!!
It's nice that data squad had them, but the game is a lot shorter than 3. Also, don't think i finished that 1 yet, but I've seen it at a GameXChange and might pick it up along with that awful Duel masters PS2 game.
Thankfully cyber sleuth had them
I spent well over 400 hours on Dusk making completely broken Digimon with maxed stats. Absolutely loved this game. I felt it was a perfect on the go Digimon game. Wasn’t too compelling but the grind was never boring. I actually had fun grinding out levels in this, something I can’t say for Pokémon. Cyber Slueth is by far a better game, but the collectathon aspect of it wasn’t as fulfilling as this one, as the fact that Cyber Slueth had half the roster was a major let down.
Yeah, that's a fair point. Cyber Sleuth was more focused on everything but collecting, I think.
Cyber Sleuth can just devolve your digimon in 3 different forms, so your digimon in the end becomes anythingmon
Anythingmon is my favourite.
Casp O'saurus yeah but that ruins the collecting challenge, there's also no trophy of being able to complete the whole gallery, so as you said, it's not collection-focused
What's weird is that they're clearly reusing the models from previous games, but aren't adding a fuck-tonne more Digimon to each increment. It's strange.
I still believe Dawn/Dusk was the first competent digimon RPG. Direct control, varied dungeons without booby traps, no load times, convenient team-building/battling and access to anime teams. it was THE game, until Cyber Sleuth blew it the fuck out for being a 3D console/waifu simulator
Well DS is basically the same game, but I'd argue it's better, and has a better post-game. I definitely agree though, Dawn/Dusk showed that Digimon can be good, and functionally sound. They just needed to fine-tune it. ENTER: MOTHER FUCKING CYBER SLEUTH BABY.
I like pixel/2d graphics better
I agree, I think most of the criticisms in this video apply more to Digimon World 2.
Wait CS has a Waifu simulator?
@@Caspicum Unfortunately cyber sleuth's progression and type system were so bad I consider them strictly worse than either DS game. Having a JRPG where you need to levelgrind the same span 7 times, and end up with a creature that seems roughly only double the power, coupled with two type advantage systems that do nearly the same thing is absolutely nonsense. It never feels right the entire time, and makes a joke out of grinding despite demanding it of you.
I remember this game. Particularly how I grinded like 5 levels after clearing a story chapter, just to make sure I could survive the brutal enemy lvl spike at the next stage.
Bro the boss battles were insane. 30 levels ahead of me if you were unprepared good luck
"Digimon World Dawn is a game built arounding wasting your time, so I won't make this too long lest I be guilty of the same crime." Damn, son. You bodied this game within the first 7 seconds. RIP.
This was going to be a diss track, but due to my crippling illness of normalcy, I am physically unable to dab on the haters.
Dude I love the shit out of te Dawn/Dusk series and I will wholeheatly agree the games are built around time wasting.
I can't fault you for accepting a game's faults but still loving it. More power to you, my friend!
I haven't heard anything valid or necessary from this guy yet lmfao XD
Gotta get over than ten mins tho
Waste of time? Nah. I enjoyed the main play through and even enjoyed played through Dusk as well.
The games are incredibly easy tho. Maps are meh at best and can be confusing. But I do enjoy the variety of Digimon and being able to customize them if I so choose to put forth the effort.
I can't hate this game. It let me use Wargreymon and Blackwargreymon on the same team
The only thing that's annoying is you cant manipulate encounter rate without AR code
@film fan Not much and I haven't played in awhile to be able to tell you. I just enjoyed being able to because they're some of my favorite Digimon.
I disagree cause my nostalgia glasses are glued on
I think bleach is a glue solvent. Probably worth a try!
Nostalgia goggles, it's digimon
Still have digimon world for the PS1 literally came across it yesterday and was like huh... haven't played this in 18 years so am now relearning everything and sat there wondering how the ever loving fuck I ever got anything other than numemon while trying to digivolve
Damn man, this game looks beautiful! I really love that GBA aesthetic, especially for a series like Digimon. It just feels right.... But my days of grinding away in antiquated, uninspired rpg's are over.
I'll have you know I played this game as a kid, therefore all your points are invalid, good day to you sir!
GOT 'EM!
I've played through Dawn and Dusk many times. At least 3 for Dawn and 6 for Dusk. I love the games, and while I do agree with most of the issues you brought up (the games are time wasters and the plot is...something? Even I never really got what was going on in the plot), I do feel like you were a little unfair in some regards. The game does have some merits.
First of all, as a Digimon lore junky, this game is very faithful to the interesting mythology within Digimon and is one of the first games to accurately depict the Demon Lords in their true glory, not the watered down version you see in the anime. Secondly, the games were also among the first to ever really add their own mythology and as far as I know, was the first game in the Saga X storyline to introduce the concept of "Sins that transcend space and time", which was a plot point in the end game of Cyber Sleuth. Of course, I can't fault most people for not getting int that kinda stuff...Lastly, the sheer roster of Digimon in this game is immense. Well over 400 with some really cool and obscure picks like Ghoulmon.
While it's nowhere near as good as Cyber Sleuth, it's miles better then the worst Digimon games which IMO is by far the Ryo Akyama saga. I'm not sure if you played those games but they're the worst games I played in the franchise, and I played most games.
Chronologically, I've played every Digimon RPG up until Dawn, and I played a few after that, such as RE:Digitize, Cyber Sleuth, and Next Order. I definitely agree that it's better than games like Digimon World 2, 4, and even Data Squad, but the sheer amount of time it wastes undermines everything else it does well. There's a good core stuck behind all the bloat in there, they just need to refine it.
I'm pretty sure Lost Evolution and Xros Wars use the same base, so I hope they fine-tune it, and make it the game it deserves to be!
Digimon World 3 is fucking awesome . So I thought "Lets try Dusk", man, all Nintendo DS Digimon sucks, I'm forcing myself to play and love, but is painfull. I'm replaying World 3 after 15 years, playing Next Order on ps4 and Dusk on my DS
The touch screen was made for emulators so it's easy:)
Digimon World Dusk/Dawn (Digimon Story Sunburst/Moonlight) are supposed to be sequels of Digimon World DS (Digimon Story DS) and then they got a sequel on Digimon Story Lost Evolution, which I think would be the only title worth playing out of the 3.
The Digimon World series are still V-pet based while the Digimon Story series are the RPG titles so don't worry too much about it.
"Digimon World Dawn is a game built arounding wasting your time, so I won't make this too long lest I be guilty of the same crime." And yet the video is 12 minutes
The video was originally going to be a lot longer, my boy.
I do love that the game is so bi-polar with people. I'm on the side of loving this game more than Cyber Sleuth. I enjoy the tedious grind and it was really fun with friends who also had it. Making eggs with friend's Digimon was half the fun for me.
I'm sad that I didn't get to use the egg feature at all!
I just binge-watched all your Digimon videos.
They are approved and you earned a sub hehe.
Thanks, babe. There's only like 2 videos left in the series and then it'll be over, and I'll move on to not-furry shit, but I'm glad people are digging them.
Oh man I was just watching your Data Squad video the other night hoping you'd have this out soon. Heckin.
I was hoping to have it out on Christmas, but being the holidays and all, plans got derailed. I would've loved to have a Hacker's Memory video out, but I'm so far behind it hurts.
As someone below said, I loved this game as a kid, but going in the last year trying to replay it is kind of a nightmare. It's too slow, everything almost feels like a hassle to do and it somehow feels worse than the original DS game despite them clearly trying to streamline some features.
I do wonder if you are going to tackle the Yo-kai watch series, despite those games problems I feel that they are somewhat of a weird blend between things like pokemon etc in terms of tone and combat of Shin megami tensei despite its simple structure.
That's an oddly-timed comment, because I was actually considering covering Yo-kai watch, and not even 2 days ago. I think this is a sign. I just figured out 3DS capture as well, so that might be on the cards.
Also, I feel the same about Dawn. I played it about a year after it came out and had a great time, but playing it now was one of the worst gaming experiences I've had for a long time. Given that I've played Quest 64 and Aidyn Chronicles in the past year, that's a big achievement.
Too bad not all games were ported here, but I feel it would be a blast since I've only played the japanese versions. Give it a try at least! I very much enjoyed them.
I loved these two games, but most of this is true.
What really pissed me off is that you need to connect with another player to unlock the last post-game sidequest!
i adore Dawn/Dusk, i have since i was a little girl and having just finished Dusk this morning at 56 or so hours, i STILL love it as much as i did in 07 when i got Dawn. it's not perfect, but i don't actually hate the grindy segments. i'm easy to please, usually, when it comes to RPGs anyway, and this game doesn't do a whole lot WRONG, honestly. it looks good, it sounds great, the characters are cute and unique designs, the monsters are memorable, and the gameplay works well. it's GRINDY, but it isn't inherently broken in any way. you won't find a save ruining glitch or a cart bricking bug like Megaman Battle Network 4 had, or anything close to that. i've been playing Dawn and Dusk since 2007 and have NEVER encountered a single glitch. if these games were rushed, they did a damn good job at debugging.
Saw this in my recommendations and after watching the whole Digimon review series all I can say is wow that was great, you just got a new sub
So, like ‘Plague of Gripes’ isn’t a Dragon Ball channel, ‘Casp O’saurus’ isn’t a Digimon channel?
Exactly.
As the comments below are stating, the blandness of the JRPG formula was (and still is) something that pretty much all users of the games ignored in favor of knowing that you actually can raise tons of digimon. The thing about DS/Dawn/Dusk is this: they’re less true turn-based RPGs and more like an expansion to the virtual pet formula, with the ability to pause and resume later. Next 0rder has that, to be sure, but the ability to dedigivolve at will and yet remain strong due to stat boosts changes the ENTIRE flow of the game. I remember getting Digimon World Dawn, then Pokemon Diamond, and I outright sold Diamond before I got to the elite four. Why? Because the game bored me to tears after having played the previous games in the series. Today, I have Dawn, DS, Lost Evolution, Cyber Sleuth three times (JP/ENG download/ENG SEA region cartridge) (still saving for Hacker’s Memory at the moment), Next 0rder on the Vita, a japanese Xros Loader, a D-Cyber, world 3 on an emulator on my phone, and the 20th anniversary original v-pets. I still play Dawn and Lost Evolution, only rarely returning to DS for some of the different music tracks (digivolution theme being a major favorite). The thing about digimon is that there are two ways they make games, both of which are predictable, and both of which are dearly beloved by the fans of the series. The first way is the v-pet formula, with only forward growth in real time, like the tamagotchi that came before digimon. The second way is the monster collecting RPG format, with digivolution and dedigivolution being the key elements here, and both formats have something in common: the potential for social interaction outside of the game with other fans, which in turn inspires a rather tight-knit community. We know what makes a digimon game, be it the “bland JRPG” or the “pet life simulator.” The flaws in those games, from Digimon World all the way to any flaws in Next 0rder and Hacker’s Memory, are all disregarded because we get to do what we love to do: raise our digimon. This is as close as we’ve ever been able to get to becoming true real-life digimon tamers. To say that because Dawn/Dusk have a lackluster story that they are a waste of time doesn’t really cover it, because you’re not seeing the games as what they are. They’re essentially a pocket server full of digimon you can raise, carry with you, and return to. I should also mention that Digimon World Championship DS is like this as well, and I have two copies of that that I play regularly. Digimon is awesome.
Well, I'll give you some of the criticism as fair, maps are huge, encounters are abundant, and it became a generic jrpg. However, analyzing the game for what it is, is a little different. But I guess we both had different experiences playing through this game in the end. For example, I never used the farm, because it was... well worthless imo. Any stats I wanted to increase I would do so just by degenerating over and over which was honestly a breeze once you got to higher level areas which essentially made grinding nonexistent. What do I mean? Well say you have the agumon family, you train him up to greymon, then degenerate him into agumon and reach the level cap, then into koromon and reach it again. Mind you, it would take like one or two fights to go from level 1 to like 15 and then another two to cap it, so it wouldn't take too long. It might seem like a waste of time, but you gain so many stat boosts from it that grinding stops being an issue really. If you just do the degeneration a few times you're set for the story quests. But, the other problems still stand, repels like in pokemon, aren't a thing which sucks when you're in one area trying to get to the one specific part that has the one digimon you want, or the one species you need. Either way, good thing you didn't play both at the same time, because aside from story and mon choice, nothing was really different. Still, solid review dude~
I didn't mind low-level degeneration when I did get to the high-EXP areas, but even then, it still took forever to get the Ultimates/Megas back up to where I left them. I did a lot of degeneration, and I even had to do one more cycle for the final boss because the difficulty always spikes at the final boss in Digimon games, but that took a good 5-6 hours of pure grinding. I was also very close to getting Omegamon, but had already beaten the game, so figured it was pointless.
Such wasted potential. I'm so happy Cyber Sleuth and Next Order exist. Imagine doing a series recap before they all came out. It'd just make you super depressed.
Thanks for the comment!
Casp O'saurus yeah I can't blame you since you had to review this, in casual gameplay, like, grinding is something you can do in your spare time. I mean I would do that back when the game came out, but I can see how when you're reviewing this grinding can be fucking annoying~ but I am glad the other games fixed/improved these mechanics. Still though, I wish you would have enjoyed this game a tiny bit more~
I would've thought people wanted me to hate things by this point, given that it's all I've really done for... Too many games. I enjoyed DS a lot more than this, solely because it was fresh. Having that same experience again really took its toll.
Casp O'saurus I laughing at this because I literally had all burst mode digimon from the season 5 show in 1 day. Using all the areas. It was hell of a lot easier than Pokemon at the time.
hey have you tried Hacker's memory the sidequel for Cyber sleuth,i know it's basically just the same game but expanded but it could be nice to see if they improved some points we saw in cyber sleuth.
It's on the list! I'll likely give it a go after Digimon World Championship!
It wasn't until HeartGold and SoulSilver that the PC boxes were on the touch screen, though.
Just discovered this channel today and watched this playlist in one go. Love it.
I guess I gotta wait for the Hacker's Memory video to remind you about Rumble Arena 1 and 2 and also Battle Spirit 1 and 2. Oh, fuck, I just did.
I probably won't do Rumble Arena or Battle Spirit. I'm solely interested in the RPGs, since that's my main genre. I was on a stream where I made a mate play Battle Spirit 1 and 2, and they weren't very good, but I can't comment on Rumble Arena. It looks okay.
Casp
Fair enough. I'm just glad you covered these games as well as you did.
Thanks for the comment! I'm not saying those games will never happen, but I much prefer RPGs to anything else, and I'm not a big fan of fighting games at all. I'm not really sure what I could say about fighting games that wouldn't just be generic video game review stuff crammed into a short video.
That said, it's not impossible, just highly unlikely!
Might be a stupid question but can you get dianamon in dawn with a copy of dusk. Reason why i ask is the whole wifi server being shutdown. Don't know if it works like pokemon
I'm not too sure, sorry. A wiki would definitely give you the answer.
Had this game as a kid and while I didn’t really remember many of the problems, I also didn’t remember anything I liked, or anything besides the basic look and feel to the point where I thought there was a decent chance I imagined this game.
Dusk was my first digimon game so I played it all the time and pretty much did everything (except a few farm quests because some are annoying to unlock and some evolutions because of grinding taking forever) eventually I did buy Dawn just so I could unlock everything.
I know the games have a lot of flaws (there are a ton of issues, especially the grind for certain evolutions) yet Dusk is still my favorite digimon game because of the nostalgia and attachment I have with the game.
glad to have discovered you, super entertaining!
Gonna do Lost Evolution any time after it's english fan translation exists?
Played this game only twice. Sometime after beating the story on my first playthrough, I realized the dna digivolving that doesn't change form still may increase stats.
After finding this out i started fresh wanting to see how quickly i could beat the game. I would grind stats by collecting digimon that reached 100% and saving before dnaing for stats. I wasnt too picky i just wanted a net gain.
I ended up getting paladin mode imperialdramon first. Followed by zeedmilleniummon. And finally i got shinegreymon burst mode. I got zeedmilleniummon because i originally wanted khimeramon and later on stumbled upon him and wanted to get him. I preferred the ruin mode for shinegreymon but i wanted to try do everything there was to do so i got him.
I think the tournament was the hardest part compared to the optional last area bosses.
Maxing stats in this game is still easy if you dna digivolve anything will 100% data.
Seeing this review makes me want to do it all over again on an emulator to speed up the cutscenes and save stating as opposed to reseting the game.
I don't disagree with your review its just I spent a lot of time on this game and i enjoyed the feeling of achievement while i was doing it.
Do you have any plans on doing a review of Digimon Adventure on the psp?
MAYBE :^)
Where did you level up your digimon early game i cant get my rookie digimon even to the champion level i need help
I just played through the story during the opening sequences. I don't think I ground until mid-late game.
@@Caspicum OK thanks for the clearification
I love this game. I'm currently playing it right now. It may just be me and how my life I s centered around digimon.
“How my life is centered around Digimon”
Uh... yeah, that might alter your decision making skills
@@SlimeBlueMS Mate this was 3 years ago, you really taking something from 3 years ago seriously?
@@croc-plunderenthusiast1396 just saw it now so why not
And yeah I just found it funny that you say “it may just be because my life revolves around Digimon” when you talk about why you might be playing a Digimon game lmao
wait what digimon world dusk video is the description talking about
It's been scrubbed from the internet. The guy dropped like 15 n bombs and youtube didn't like that.
also I'd like to see Coronomon and Lunamon and their evolution lines in more games though they are pretty cool IMO
Back in the day this game was a true challenge, any game that pushed me to the edge and had me committed I would consider good.
scene at 0:41 looks just like that battle tower area in pokemon colosseum/gale of darkness
I really like these games, though the slog of a story reguardless if it gives you more action faster in the long haul in dusk/dawn is why i went back to play DS, which admittedly was missing A LOT of key things for one reason or another.
Though digimon Lost Evolution came out 3 years after dawn and dusk, that translation is still slowly chugging along because we diddn't get it in english, i cant wait to see if they made core system actually expansive between DS's limited trees n' lack of DNA digivolve without friends and Dawn/Dusk's openness i made a whole game-wide plan with like 7 digimon fusing together that i diddn't even get to complete because the game ended.
Either way i love these games and im hoping Lost Evolution does abit more then patchwork or slight redo from previous game.
As a kid in DS i actually hit a wall at one point and ran out of food, having a great depression for a long time where everyone was starving.
damm i played the japaness games too but i changed computer and lost my save data
I always liked this game despite its flaws; I suppose my reasoning being that due to the fucking MASSIVE amounts of grinding; it felt like a geniune achievement when I finally got that Digimon I wanted high up in the levels. I was a massive fan of the series as a kid so being able to obtain a bunch of my favorites was awesome.
why are 4/5 digimon on the thumbnail presensting theyr rear? :D
I know my audience :(
Hey Casp! Now that there's an english patch for Lost Evolution, can you give us what you think of that?
Yes! I was working on the video, but I took a little break, got a bit burnt out, and had some other projects on the back burner that needed a bit of a speed up. I'll get back to it soon though!
@@Caspicum Thanks man, can't wait!
C... Casp, was that some Alundra 2 OST in the video? Nice.
Always, baby. Alundra 2 and myself are inseparable unless the final boss kills me twice on stream and then I quit.
No mention of the inter-game communication, my favorite was making digi-eggs.
I definitely agree the encounter rate was ridiculous. Lower the encounter rate and slightly increase the experience payout, and make the scan data portion happen much faster and this is actually really fun game. Other than that I really enjoy how the Stat system works and how you can train literally any mon to be strong. My most memorable run I used a Gotsumon and Tsunomon to beat Grimmon in the main story climax.
Dawn and dusk are my favorite monster collection games, but nothing more. I'm not into the combat, story, etc, but the digimon sprites look clean af. I have 2 cartridges housing my rarer digimon, like the ones that require ridiculous DNA digivolution ladders or breeding digimon with another cartridge. Also, my stepbrother and I used to do battles inbetween key story events before i took over the cartridges, so i have a few good (non-collection) memories with the games.
If it has anything I can apreciate, is the sheer amount of digimon that you can get.
Can be a decent grind-fest to play while listening to a podcast or something and eventually you will get some joy from evolving a cool digimon.
A lot of people said this is the game with the largest roster, or one of the largest. For collecting digimon, I totally get it.
I really enjoy digimon dawn, digimon world ds though I can’t stand. I would highly recommend dawn on an emulator so you can speed up the game so it’s playable
yeah it's slow on real DS especially the encounter.
It's definitely better with speed-up, but that still doesn't fix the problem unfortunately.
Casp O'saurus it certainly helps tremendously, not to say the game is brilliant or ground breaking, but it does allow for easier movement through the menus, as well as the scanning of digimon at the start of the battle.
I personally prefer Dusk because of Sayo and Dianamon.
@@jaxter6610 any specific emulator? the 1 i use atm is super slow
This game was so fucking good. This was the first Digimon Game I ever played and it got me hooked onto the series hard. Everyone's entitled to their own opinion but I was never a fan of the VPet stuff, and this Digimon Story series is what Digimon will always be to me. A solid RPG with a decent enough story and a massive ass digivolution tree that makes replaying the game and going through it different ways super fun. There is a genuine thrill to getting a brand new Mega Digimon and trying it out. I was always more attached to my Digimon in these games than any Pokemon I had, because every digivolution is a new stage, and watching your partners slowly grow alongside you is what I love about these games.
So, I getcha, without nostalgia, these games are just DS games. They're basically nothing. But I love the detailed spritework, the intriguing story, the awesome music, fun quests, over 300 Digimon and that feeling of being in a Union, and working towards a goal alongside your team, finding more and more out and discovering the truth behind Grimmon will always stick in my heart.
Plus this game introduced me to my favourite Digimon, the one and only Marineangemon.
I remember having fond memories of Digimon Dusk and Dawn, but after replaying them recently, I’ve come to the conclusion that they’re both extremely mediocre, if not below average. The encounter rate really was absurd, so I definitely agree there. And to add a nice cherry on top, even if you had an entire team of Mega Digimon, you could still fail to flee from a Rookie Digimon. The characters lacked this one thing that really would’ve been a game changer called, “actual character”. And a fun little tidbit, whether you choose the male or female avatar, the in game text of Dusk will address you as the male character, because why bother making those types of changes? I’m not sure if that stands in Dawn, as I played through it as the male avatar and can’t be bothered to do it again. Then there were the occasional grammar errors throughout the games, which I found hard to believe made it into the final copy. Your review provided an interesting perspective after replaying these games myself, and I find it to be well made!
I found the game a lot more playable with encounter control codes. Turned them off when backtracking, turned them on when grinding. Clearly they took notice of how I was playing as they implemented these functions as a part of cyber sleuth
That sounds much better than an encounter every 2 steps while just trying to explore.
Are you going to do a GameCube RPGs review?
I'd like to. There's a few loose ends I've gotta tie up with the N64 RPGs, but I really would love to talk about Gamecube RPGs, because I've only played Paper Mario.
Just seen the video hahahaha, Digimon Story Lost Evolution is getting its English translation this year confirmed, hope to see your review on it !!! Seems we will have to wait for Digimon Story Super Xros Wars Red and Blue tho...
That just gives me more time to do videos on them :^)
I've been wanting to hit up Lost Evo and Xros Wars for the longest time but my japanese is really really bad.
I remember finding this game at random and proceed to have a nostalgia trip during a 2 week vacation with a crappy laptop. Seems like I need to beat the previous version
cant wait for that saga frontier video bruh
Has more digimon then any other digimon game ever
Im with you
Me Too
@@percep_alter002 incorrect I believe digimon story lost evolution had the most digimon
@@mothratheresa8582 thats right
So? Qualityis not quantity. Digimon world 3 is superior in every way.
I remember working hard in this game to get Imperialdramon Paladin Mode. I did eventually get it, and fuck, I got so disappointed at the game when his animation was only 2 sprites. What the hell, how does that even happen?
This was my first Digimon game, and i loved it to bits.
...Even though my child self could never get past the first 2 hours of the game because i was too dumb to understand how to initiate quests due to my shit reading comprehension i guess.
But it was a DIGIMON GAME! WHOA! Maybe i should go back and revisit it to see what i was truly missing. Or maybe it was for the best.
I'd recommend going back! It's always good to have a little blast from the past, even if it's not as good as you remember.
The biggest complaint I had with the game was the fact there was a lot that were locked behind multiplayer aspects. I was the only one in my area that was obsessed with Digimon and trying to get anyone around me into it was difficult. I never realized how similar the style and a lot of the art is to DW3 so thats something interesting.
@film fan The Breeding mechanic to get special eggs is locked. Like certain digimon only came from "matching" the breeding mechanic.
What is BST? I need it to digivolve!
BST is Beast Experience!
You can increase it by defeating Beast-type Digimon, or by buying BST-increasing training pens and terrain boards for your Farm Island
i LOVED this game growing up. And i have no idea why. all the things you said where definitly true. But, i guess since i had my DS on me everywhere, i just ended up playing it nonstop. I didnt care for the story, i was a kid afterall. But i was still drawn in, i played every single starter deck line up, did my own variation of nuzelock for it in which if one of my digi's died, i couldnt grind back up for them. that whole line would be inaccessable for me. ever. It was such a fun time waster for me, even if the game itself was indeed absolute sukamon.
Ain't nothing wrong with loving things that aren't perfect! Just shows how strong your love for that thing actually is!
0:37 Mt. Battle from Pokemon Colosseum and XD Gale of Darkness
this game took me 25 hours to beat on my first playthrough never played a digimon game before, why did it take you 60 hours to complete it did you grind for the plat rank? i never wasted time on the farming and i knew i wanted blackwargreymon and metalgarurumon and dianamon cause they cool looking.
I think about 10 of that was when I'd put the game down and look at porn or just grab a sandwich or a coffee or whatever and not turn it off. As for the other 50 or so, I like to take my time to make sure I don't miss shit. I also have to test things to make sure i understand them properly, and test recording settings because the Wii U emulation fucks up all the colours. Then there's the extra footage I don't have for specific points that I gotta recapture. Lots of things go into a standard playthrough for a video.
isn't it easier just to record on pc?
What is the game at 2:58 ? Help a brother out!
Games are always listed in the description in order of appearance!
I love these games. I actually put 100 Hrs into Dawn. I actually got Imperialdramon PM and legendary tamer rank.
I had Dusk, step brother had Dawn.
He barely played his, I played mine through then had fun with my actionreplay after.
Talk about the Super Xros Wars Red & Blue ?
MAYBE!
Ok I love Dawn and dusk and I disagree with only some things in this video, I do agree that a lot of the story is awful but I loved being able to splice 2 different Digimon together and make a whole new one, the boss fights we're really lack luster but it's still in my opinion an amazing game. One that I have beaten at least 8 time haha, I liked the equipment and the menus were not as slow for me as you described them, you are entitled to your opinion but I love Dawn and dusk. Also my slowest time going through the main story then the 2 main quests after the final boss "Gaia origen challenge and lagend tamer challenge" I clocked in at around 72 hours, and I enjoyed every second of it.
Good stuff, man. It's interesting to see why people enjoy games that I'm not a fan of, so thanks for the comment!
Will you do Xros Wars review?
If there's a fan translation, I'd consider it for sure!
Casp O'saurus Well do what you can buddy
Make you videos about dusk (because it's not the same story as dawn), lost evolution and super xros wars when they get translated (operation decoded, the guys they translate re digitize and decode make the ds games too) ?
I won't make a video about Dusk, since it is largely the same game. I will probably end up doing Lost Evolution and Xros Wars though!
And Anode/Cathode Tamer on WonderSwan? :)
Funny how alot of games we played as kids don't seem to have flaws until they're pointed out to us.
It's a weird thing, where I don't know if we're more forgiving as kids since we have more time and our brains are just happy to be glued to the flashing picture box, or if we tuck away those gripes because we're enjoying everything outside of that.
It creates interesting discussions, whatever the case.
I played Dusk and I actually really liked it. It came at a time when I really needed a Digimon itch scratched and I'd hit a Pokemon drought so I wasn't playing any long-form RPG's. I really liked its portability and the mission-based quests really helped with that. I hadn't played a Digimon game before so getting to form my own team of my favorite mons was a ton of fun. The farm was also hella addictive and I found myself using that alot to level up even my mains. Hoooooowever, I never finished it. I didn't up my tamer rank or anything but I did do basically all of the sidequests and oh my god the difficulty curve! I didn't mind grinding but having to grind for a story mission (which was understandable as those usually have a difficulty spike in any game) and THEN have to do the same thing for a sidequest REALLY killed the experience for me. I ended up getting dawn too to trade the few starter Digimon I liked over but I never touched it again once I did that XD
If you've got a Digimon-itch, there's really not a lot of portable choices, so I get that. I've said this to a bunch of people, that if you can enjoy something even aware of any flaws it may have, it shows that you genuinely enjoy and accept it for what it is, and that's great. More power to you! Thanks for the comment!
No problem! And yeah I did genuinely enjoy it. I'm not as critical a person as some, so most of the issues like story pacing and such were kinda lost on me but the samey layouts for every place ever and the difficulty curve killed it. I also didn't have another game to compare it to, since that was my first Digimon game, and it was coming on the heels of Pokemon Diamnd, arguably the most slow-paced of all the Pokegames, so those aspects probably helped too.
Been waiting on this video for ages!
I wanted it out on Christmas day, but the holiday season fucked my schedule up, and then I got super lazy. I'm glad it's finally out though. Hope it didn't disappoint!
Casp O'saurus it didt not. I knee this game was garbage, just wanted your thoughts. Was a good video.
Have you heard about the new anime? What are your thoughts on it?
I'm not a big anime guy, I burnt out on it pretty hard about a decade ago. If you're talking about Tri or whatever it's called, I have seen a few bits, and it looks great. I'd love to set some time aside to watch it at some point.
Casp O'saurus no, that one’s more like a reunion movie. I can’t remember the name, but it’s like the Digimon are made from phone apps.
Wouldn't that just make them very oddly shaped tumors?
OH! The bloody AppMon thing? I don't think I could stomach that. I can barely stomach the OG series, and Mimi probably isn't in Appmon.
I definitely have Nostalgia for this game as I played it a lot as a kid but I just can't get back into it now that I'm older because of basically all the reasons described. It's kind of a shame really.
This was my first Digimon game (I wanted to play the original Digimon World games, but I didn't have a Playstation or Playstation 2) and I actually liked it. For the first run. I remember grinding all the way up to the Platinum Rank and being completely satisfied, but I set down the game and never went back because I couldn't collect them all because of no way of getting the eggs from multiplayer (let alone understand how to do it). About 8 years later I picked it back up and said "I'm gonna restart it and just see how well it's aged." That was my mistake. Not only did it not age well, I realized just how awkward the game was. That being said I did get back far into the story, but I never finished a second run through at the Platinum Rank. My take away is: It's good for one run. After that, it'll sit on the shelf. It doesn't have replay value to it at all.
Yeah, it's far from an awful game, but there's so much potential here if they'd just fix a couple little things, it could be a fantastic game. Xros Wars looks like the same thing but improved again, so I might have to *learn Japanese*. :^)
I didn't even realize that they never really mentioned anything about the factions other than they're rivals until now. Still love this game though because of how many time I've played this over the original D. World.
You know, there is an old procrastination saying: If you wasted your time, but also had fun doing It, then It wasn't really a waste of time at all.
I mean sure, this isn't the best game on the DS, but It's one of my favorite Digimon game. The music is really epic, the graphics is actually nice looking. I really like the backgrounds and in contrast with It's eternal rival, they had moving sprites before BW and in my opinion they look a lot better. (then again, BW was better at details, like Pokemons closing their eyes, when they were put to sleep, but It was also made three years after these games), I found the story to be interesting and the characters well written. My only problem is the majority of the gameplay. I remember using AR codes, when I was a kid, because I thought It's just the hardest thing ever, but none of the bosses seem to cause me any mental scars, even the Final Boss was easy. Yeah, he had a ton of HP, but he always received more damage, than what he sent to my team.
Pause. at 0:39 why is digimon data squad taking place in the pokemon XD endgame
0:37 What's Mt. Battle doing in a Digimon game?
The never-ending Digimon/Pokemon wars were brutal. so many monsters, so many ideas stole.
@@Caspicum Further reading: search Digimon Story: Cyber Sleuth on Twitter.
These games u need a speed up button and an encounter reducer causw damn its every 2 steps
Lets agree to disagree on this one i had to much fun with that one
I think this game's biggest strength is that it finally fixes the Digivolution trees from DS. Like having PawnChessmon digivolve to Hookmon and then to Meteormon makes no sense when Gotsumon digivolves to Icemon, but Icemon can't digivolve to Meteormon. The hard level floors really restricted how Digimon could Digivolve and I was thrilled that Dawn/Dusk fixed that issue
I've played and completed world DS at least 2 times and loved it. But this one although similar i couldn't even complete it once. I've tried 2 or 3 times but every time I pick it up I get bored just like you said
I never played Digimon DS much, so the same battle system and graphics didn't bored me much.
I played Dusk , while me Mother played Dawn.
Plus was desperate ta play a RPG Digimon game so i stuck with Dusk. And crazy into HandHelds.
Personally, I have a love/hate relationship with Digimon Dawn, I find that the game battle style is much more fun than the Pokémon games that it's normally compared to. Not only do you need to know the elemental type advantages, but also the placement of enemies on the field. But the downfall of this game is how much you'll be using it to grind up that typed experience for digivolutions. I've spent numerous hours grinding for typed experience for a Digimon just to find out that that the Digimon is too weak once it digivolves, and has to be degenerated to get stronger. Which means you will have to level up, evolve, level up, devolve, level up, evolve, level up, devolve for hours to get that Digimon you want.
It is the only way to effectively gain stats in the game, and yeah, it works to increase the amount of time you spend on the game, but it also makes it needlessly frustrating. I don't like having to degenerate my Digimon and digivolve them all over again just so that I can raise my level cap high enough to reach the next stage. The other issue is complete lack of any map in the game which it is easy to get lost since there are not map to tell you the location of your destination or to show you your location, and every zone is a frustrating maze full of dead ends to nothing and finding items or NPCs necessary for quests can be hair ripping frustration with a ridiculous encounter rate.
I also hate the farm island, its more base in luck if your Digimon success or not but anyway, I just think the game could do better.
the luck thing in farm island is only for training aspect. It's optional to do, as you can always raise its stat by level up. The worse thing with that luck training was in World 3 where your TP is limited and your digimon can't level down.
@@zenwaichi3587 The farm is luck bases because the Digimon may success on its training or fail.
Review Xros wars if you have an English patch
The sequel that only came out in Japan, Lost Evolution, received a fan translation some weeks ago. It's more fun than Dawn/Dusk won't ever be, but they still win in the variety of monsters.
I'm actually pretty far into it now. I think it's still got the same issues as Dusk/Dawn, but the story is slightly better.
I think that it's an irony that you mentioned some downsides of this game that already existed in the first game for example the weaponry, quest structure, and menu accessing that you called "almost perfect". For just 9 months of development since the first game, I think for such time and the improvement they made for the game is more than enough. Sure the game is imperfect, but I didn't think they can overcome or even improve some of lacking / unpolished features from the first game. I don't think they can make dozen of new things like new dungeon designs, etc. This is probably the same case as what Hacker's Memory is to the original Cyber Sleuth. Both provides new story to the game, one is a sequel but one other is a side story on the same timeline. They take place in more or less the same universe too.
Firstly I want to admit that yeah the game is grindy, the difficulty curve is way more than the first game. The encounter rate is as worse as DW3, no repels, nothing. It's annoying that the entering combat scenes are so slow depending on how much enemies you face. The story doesn't make sense, so many human tamer relations that felt convoluted. And the worse of all is they made the protagonist SILENT.
But I don't think such grinding are bad. Almost all RPG need grinding, especially some other monster-related RPG like pokemon, yokai watch, or any other one depends on the difficulty. Dawn/Dusk only felt more grindy bcos it had the evolve/devolve thing, and lowering any evolved/devolved digimon into level 1 surely increased it. If you don't like grinding then yeah it's annoying as hell. Hence this one can't be recommended for others.
Don't forget that one of the most effort from this game is to increase the digimon numbers from the only 200ish into almost double of it. It adds DNA/jogress feature which allow you to fuse 2 correspondent digimon to evolve into higher level with better stats also. It also adds armor evolution which is IMO one of very best inventions to prevent higher grinding especially in the first half of the game with its simple and easy requirement (which is sadly toned down in Cyber Sleuth as if it's a normal evo that needs to reach certain level). The battle mechanic has also been improved so you don't need to level up your digimon much to access its signature attack as it's already available since lv1. They also added "defense" command which is helpful and is still being used in Cyber Sleuth.
It's so much fun to complete the digimon gallery in Dawn/Dusk rather than the first one bcos you need another player to do breeding in order to get several jogress digimon like Omegamon, etc. You can't do jogress guessing in the first game, and can't even access armor digimon. In dawn/dusk you can do it without any problem, just need the right time and correspondent item. And yeah, you can complete all the gallery with just having the other version of the game, without having to attend events to get several "legendaries" and such. Also the difference between dawn and dusk is clear, and is worth for spending both games at once since you can only accesss several places and quests exclusively on dawn or dusk alone also having standalone accessible digimon. Better than buying 2 versions of DS Pokemon game which only having the same content with just different legendary. I can just choose whether to play Diamond or Pearl alone coz they're both the same game contents, no value in playing both at once. And ugghh I'd rather play Platinum rather than those 2 (diamond/pearl), coz it's the most definitive version of gen 4.
Sadly these gets toned down in Cyber Sleuth, armor digimon are nothing special, going back everytime to digilab to evolve/devolve is annoying. Jogress evolving is more streamlined, etc.
probably I'm the only one who will say Dawn/Dusk is much better than Cyber Sleuth in terms of gameplay aspect and accesibility.
Dusk was my first digimon game, so while I still hold some nostalgic memories of grinding to beat the final boss and the post game kowloon co boss battle... I'm way too aware of the flaws. Replays are impossible, even with cheats to make grinds easy. Dungeons are fricked design wise, I get lost so easily..then the high encounter chance..
I'm saving for cyber sleuth's complete package and excited to give it a go.
Also the translation was meh, I remember finding lots of mispellings and some things were just wrong?? The story made little sense without digimon world ds's plot already explained (which it doesn't do in-game)
A nostalgic mess~
i played dusk and wondered why i couldnt get certain digimon/areas then i found out dawn was the version that satisfied my needs. So i ended up playing dusk and dawn, and i finished almost everything except the legendary tamer battles, which requires you to get on wi-fi atleast once to fight holy chronomon and i never got the experience. but the previous battle was pretty dope, considering it was two baby digimon.
also the digimon i wanted was guilmon and veemon
I've only played digimon world 3, i loved the pre rendered backgrounds... this game's style looks really cool too
I remember being super nostalgic for this game in middle school and it was on sale at game stop I think for like less then $20. Everything above silver for me was super easy and only time it was hard was the stadium final level which I just used a cheating device for lol. Now a days I got really bored with it and I thought about trying the new digimon rpgs.
Definitely worth trying the new ones. I think they fix a lot of shit.
The only reason I loved this game so much as a kid, was probably the fact that it was hot off the heels of Diamond and Pearl, and I needed my DS Monster Collection itch scratched some more. Going back and trying to play this game again is such a drag, I usually can't make it past the 2nd dungeon without dropping it.
They almost had something amazing, but they just couldn't salvage it. It's a sad tale.
Is it just me or did I miss the obligatory yiff joke in this video ?
he did refer to Next Order as a "furry enabler"
ah, right, and here I was thinking Casp lost his bite
I went a bit soft in this video with yiff jokes. I'll see what I can do in the future :)
I really enjoyed the monster collecting/training aspects at play, but maze like maps and random encounters should NEVER be combined
Also shout outs to puzzles and random encounters in the same room. Some people have no taste.
i think it's kinda fun, it's mainly just a distraction based game, having many mechanics based around, well, wasting time. i found all those distractions actually kinda soothing, training digimon in the specific habitats as so they can better themselves in specific ways, having a multitude of ways to digivolve them such as through strength, number of battles, or amount of specific experience gained.
i can see a lot of the issues with it most definitely, and will say that if your not into digimon, or grinding, stay far away from dawn and dusk.
if you like either of those, give it a shot, it could entertain you