The normal man is the only one made the GOAT bleed in ESL. I think being serral practise partner shape him a lot. Fun fact, in a Chinese livestream after he won the IEM, he mentioned that he practice a lot with serral and certain map serral just straight up 8:0 or he even lost count how many he has lost. Till he is doubting his life 😂. Then sleep, wake up and another day beaten by serral. Also, he mentioned that if he did such good vs Raynor in this match, he should have a 50:50 with serral if he perform like this. For me, that’s wild, I doubt any pro gamer in the bottom of their heart, got the confidence to say that it is 50:50 vs serral
Both of them are really good friends. Serral and Clem coached Oliviera before he fought at beat Maru in worlds. Serral and Oliviera played in one team during a 2v2 tournament way back, and that's the only time I've seen Serral laughing out loud and joking around.
@@N0noy1989 I always was happy to see that all the progamers in SC2 so chilled. And if I then read that serral and clem coaching olivera makes it more sweet. I think olivera came to a point where he thougth its time to change things btzzzzzzzz
When I think of such a relation, I was an exception fps player, in Pd and golden eye, and when your training a person you're giving them simply your partial process of interplay in playing a section and your choices. The person that learns this isn't you, so they think about your choices, but, the teacher, has ina pslit second made a choice, so teh cognitive means ot relate the problem solving skills to action is widely different. Such as human predicatbility, with my brother, I would do things I had experienced in life ot trick people, in hide nad seek, school stuff or sports and or you ahve to be able to construct a strategy on teh fly that is effective against your enemy, the primary stance of advantages I ahve is I could see both screens, so in most games not like that, my abiltiy to proceed is heavy based on reconaisance, unless I am doing a early rush or something then I may not scout as minerals are more important, so that is a tell for a rush, since you are statically tied to everythign being the same, typically, + or minus 25 minerals..., however, it cna stretch out per minute in a scv exploration. but overlords etc, typically allow scouting in all situations, so zerg has a slight advantage with scouting, but it comes at a cost of the overlord dying, so killing those spylords recovers your lost minerals if you scouted as another race... Sorry about hte sentence structure above combining memories of teachings and lead into sc2, which is hte main topic.. and how I htink in relation. KNowing what my enemy is doing is more valuable, since countering nad having postiive trades is constantly what you want as a person playing, or other tactics. Keep in mind using supply depots as a wall, off is easier ot destroy and potentially more costly.. I woudl rather see terran pluging the hole with a unit is sitll better than a sfrontal suppy deport imo, against a good zerg player, since banneling + 6 busting allows you to run in and do great damage... Tech buildings of zerg are realyl not that costly, since you are able to hatch faster in nubmers so yo ucan benenfit expanding cheaper and producing faster, if you put hte cost of raoch and banneling its onyl a few units... however, you do need ot have units, and having early zergs keepign them alive ot annoy goign in and out and keepign the enemy boxed in or observed, also allows you to weave in more drones and injects, and then knowing specific timings, like drop timings, whihc overlords can give you ample advance warning.. so its being better is working with information and not so much training,, but making better choices, and then making memes and jokes on the battefield, beutiful lures and tricks... Such as early lurker in the 3/4 /5 spot on hold without viewing, and waiting for a drone transfer ot optimize killing them instantly in a line. Guile can be sometimes costly... there are lots of types of guile for your opponent, like psychological use of nydus and its sound, overlord creating creep, spores, queens into the front, there is lots of interesting things... SOme of hte most powerful openings for zerg is 8 queen rush with liings, into the main, its weak, but strong, and of course creep... the abiltiy to heal is so powerful... with the hp pool of hte queens early game. Lings are cheap easy map control.. What is map control.. a thumping army sure, or very sparatic constnat moving and revealing of the fog of war so you have optimal viewing map coverage to me is map control.. simply a large army moving around is just a known variable wit ha viewing network you can avoid and create more damage, adn force teh army to your will, IE to defend etc. hmm... Zerg.. is always my favourite... species to play... T
@@REDRAGON12345 If you want the full name, sure, but if you're going by the first name, as your original post would suggest, it's Pippin Edit: Tbf, you did fix it.
Think one big reason is why serral plays with ultra's if they need to be nerfed no other zerg player is hit hard by the nerf, every times serral plays too good something get the nerf stick so play something complete off meta will not burden the avrage zerg player/enjoyer
Well the Hellbat takes extra space just as you take extra space if you extended your arms and legs outwards instead of being prone and having them next to your body.
Every once in a while I come back to try and watch more SC2 with you Lowko, but then I see ghosts still are not changed, and it makes me sad. Then I stop watching for another three months.
I feel like reynor perhaps would have had a bit more luck with dropperlords once it was obvious the nydus worms were not going to work. All 400 attempts
Reynor needs to stop playing mindlessly by playing the high drone non stop trading build. Against lower level Terran he can break them easily. But against players like Oliveira that has won world champion before, dude has the APM, reaction and knowledge to deal with it, Nydus or whatnot. He needs to play like Serral, by scouting more, and out positioning his opponent more. That's how he beat Oliveira.
games like this always make me feel like ghost needs an adustment to the snipe ability. Ive always thought it should scale down based on size of unit personally, also reduced damage to burrowed units imo.
I would like your opinions about something that has bothered me for years. It seems that both zerg and terran have ways of going over the 200/200 limit. Be it mules, spores, crawlers, overseers, not mentioning the vision with changelings and scans.. while protoss has? observers/hallucination? But where I think it really is unfair would be the healing factor. Zerg regenerates for free, Terran has medivacs and repair.. protoss has shields that are easily taken out but remain with permanent hull damage. I mean.. do you really think 1hp colossus is with it at 200/200? The on and off battles hurt them more over time. Might be a cool mechanic to see motherships have something for this. Seems like SC2 is balanced except at the ultra high tier where Protoss is supposed to death ball and gets slaughtered.
22:36 is definately he should have 8-12 brood lords, tehy are an effective ramp control of hte valleys to lose snipe sight also forcing terran into a more back and forth.. with brood lord range, it forces out other units to take up suppy, vikings and hellions... broodlings havea variancein their priorty to proximity to it laways seems in hwo shooting and targeting works so adding lings forward int oa brood lord siege gives you a bit a wall to pound some units.. and allows space with fungals from infesters.. I would of transisitioned around 17 minutes.. jsut because the unit type I am using as zerg is ineffective, and brood lords are cost effecting, onyl need ot kill a couple tanks to get their value back...
Its a gamer name not his real name. Even most western players use in game names, like ShowTime, uThermal, BeastyQT etc. And eastern players in general doesn't like to put their real name online or in the spotlight, they tend to come up with a gamer name they like and use it.
@@mariogrivicic4932 yea serral is a monster though. If serral had a more realistic win rate like 65% which is reynors instead of 96% the pro scene would be in favour of terran 55% instead of 51 poor elazor is down there on a 10% win rate vs terran whereas the lowest top 8 terran gumiho is on 27% vs zerg says it all really.
Since when was Reynor the goat? The only real goat contenders are Serral and Maru. Reynor is mechanically fast, that's why he likes to play the mindless 100 drone, non stop trading build. It does work and break lower level Terran players, but against players like Oliveira that has won world championship before, its not effective. Oliveira has the knowledge to deal with this kind of build, not to mention he has the APM and reaction to deal with it, be it Nydus or whatnot. Reynor has the potential to be the best, but he needs to play smarter like Serral, with better strategy instead of just brute force.
there is a funny story, during one tournament in China. Maru and Olivera went to KFC together, after the tournament. Due to Maru is Korean, he can't pay the fried chicken. So Olivera paid bill to exchange the method against Pro Protess😂
dont even need to watch this. reynor is gonna lose. zerg players haven't been as good with the recent patches and against one of the top terrans...unless ur serral ur pretty much done. that baneling nerf really did mess things up against someone who loves using Terran bio
Yeah I get nerfing it so you can't just delete an entire mineral line but the loss of those 5 HP on a unit whose entire value is in their one explosion, which costs the same gas and 2/3rd the minerals of a Roach, was kinda wack. Ling/Ravager and Roach/Ravager/Hydra comps seem to be coming back in style a bit tho which I'm fine with
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2:30 I appreciate the authenticity and flow of one-take casts, you did a great job on the Serral Maru cast for example
Bro I hadn't cried in like 5 years straight, but I also cried from that speech. What a very cool normal man.
The normal man is the only one made the GOAT bleed in ESL.
I think being serral practise partner shape him a lot. Fun fact, in a Chinese livestream after he won the IEM, he mentioned that he practice a lot with serral and certain map serral just straight up 8:0 or he even lost count how many he has lost. Till he is doubting his life 😂. Then sleep, wake up and another day beaten by serral. Also, he mentioned that if he did such good vs Raynor in this match, he should have a 50:50 with serral if he perform like this. For me, that’s wild, I doubt any pro gamer in the bottom of their heart, got the confidence to say that it is 50:50 vs serral
Both of them are really good friends. Serral and Clem coached Oliviera before he fought at beat Maru in worlds. Serral and Oliviera played in one team during a 2v2 tournament way back, and that's the only time I've seen Serral laughing out loud and joking around.
@@N0noy1989 I always was happy to see that all the progamers in SC2 so chilled. And if I then read that serral and clem coaching olivera makes it more sweet. I think olivera came to a point where he thougth its time to change things btzzzzzzzz
When I think of such a relation, I was an exception fps player, in Pd and golden eye, and when your training a person you're giving them simply your partial process of interplay in playing a section and your choices.
The person that learns this isn't you, so they think about your choices, but, the teacher, has ina pslit second made a choice, so teh cognitive means ot relate the problem solving skills to action is widely different. Such as human predicatbility, with my brother, I would do things I had experienced in life ot trick people, in hide nad seek, school stuff or sports and or you ahve to be able to construct a strategy on teh fly that is effective against your enemy, the primary stance of advantages I ahve is I could see both screens, so in most games not like that, my abiltiy to proceed is heavy based on reconaisance, unless I am doing a early rush or something then I may not scout as minerals are more important, so that is a tell for a rush, since you are statically tied to everythign being the same, typically, + or minus 25 minerals..., however, it cna stretch out per minute in a scv exploration. but overlords etc, typically allow scouting in all situations, so zerg has a slight advantage with scouting, but it comes at a cost of the overlord dying, so killing those spylords recovers your lost minerals if you scouted as another race... Sorry about hte sentence structure above combining memories of teachings and lead into sc2, which is hte main topic.. and how I htink in relation. KNowing what my enemy is doing is more valuable, since countering nad having postiive trades is constantly what you want as a person playing, or other tactics. Keep in mind using supply depots as a wall, off is easier ot destroy and potentially more costly.. I woudl rather see terran pluging the hole with a unit is sitll better than a sfrontal suppy deport imo, against a good zerg player, since banneling + 6 busting allows you to run in and do great damage... Tech buildings of zerg are realyl not that costly, since you are able to hatch faster in nubmers so yo ucan benenfit expanding cheaper and producing faster, if you put hte cost of raoch and banneling its onyl a few units... however, you do need ot have units, and having early zergs keepign them alive ot annoy goign in and out and keepign the enemy boxed in or observed, also allows you to weave in more drones and injects, and then knowing specific timings, like drop timings, whihc overlords can give you ample advance warning.. so its being better is working with information and not so much training,, but making better choices, and then making memes and jokes on the battefield, beutiful lures and tricks... Such as early lurker in the 3/4 /5 spot on hold without viewing, and waiting for a drone transfer ot optimize killing them instantly in a line. Guile can be sometimes costly... there are lots of types of guile for your opponent, like psychological use of nydus and its sound, overlord creating creep, spores, queens into the front, there is lots of interesting things...
SOme of hte most powerful openings for zerg is 8 queen rush with liings, into the main, its weak, but strong, and of course creep... the abiltiy to heal is so powerful... with the hp pool of hte queens early game. Lings are cheap easy map control.. What is map control.. a thumping army sure, or very sparatic constnat moving and revealing of the fog of war so you have optimal viewing map coverage to me is map control.. simply a large army moving around is just a known variable wit ha viewing network you can avoid and create more damage, adn force teh army to your will, IE to defend etc. hmm... Zerg.. is always my favourite... species to play... T
Oliveira说复盘时有一个空投决策，应该去投Serral主家，如果过去就破临界点了。
... so about that 50:50 against Serral ...
The "drop" of the music at the very beginning with "Gamers", was lowkey epic :D
You mean Lowko epic 😂😂😂
...
You don't need to tell me, I'm leaving.
You mean it is a “Banger”.
Your nose has brown shit all over it
@@pietroaguiar5256Beat me to it. I will also leave...with my fist pumped up in the air
Lowko laughing at his own DBZ jokes are hilarious to me! Keep up the good work bro!
Oliveira really won his fanbase by pure effort, im glad he got his achievements. Also really like the allinveira nickname 😂
Pippin said the quote about second breakfast not Merry. Come on lowko I thought you were a real one
I was rooting for Reynor, but Oliveira was on point. Calm and collected.
Yea, oliveira kept mistakes to minimal.
Yup, 300 ping diamond 3 from Madagascar here... Maybe I will be the next normal man to become world champion?
everything is possible. -by Oliveira
I had no idea Serral and Oliveira are practicing together now.
They've been sparring partners for years and even did 2v2 tourney together
Actually.... that was Pippin in the movie who asked about 'second breakfast.'
It wasn't Jordan?
@@redcreyesit was your mom lol
*Pippin
@@aaronimp4966 *Peregrin Took
@@REDRAGON12345 If you want the full name, sure, but if you're going by the first name, as your original post would suggest, it's Pippin
Edit: Tbf, you did fix it.
That Oliveira run was so emotional that my wife who doesn’t know a thing about stracraft was watching it and cried as well.
Lies
they stack the helions on top of eachother, the hell bats have to go side by side in the medivac ride
Think one big reason is why serral plays with ultra's if they need to be nerfed no other zerg player is hit hard by the nerf, every times serral plays too good something get the nerf stick so play something complete off meta will not burden the avrage zerg player/enjoyer
Well the Hellbat takes extra space just as you take extra space if you extended your arms and legs outwards instead of being prone and having them next to your body.
Every once in a while I come back to try and watch more SC2 with you Lowko, but then I see ghosts still are not changed, and it makes me sad. Then I stop watching for another three months.
now i have to watch the 10 hour Portal cake song... thanks
I wouldn't say it's a new meta, he's just playing like Innovation
ahhh, a sure to be great video, before bedtime, thanks Lowko!
as much as i love watching clem and maru, i might have a new favorite terran now :3
your dragonball joke was spot on. oh china lmao
Thanks for the video, Lowko. Happy Saturday!
14:53 Michael Bay cosplay
I miss "hewwow!! my name is wowko!!" in the beginning
Best Merry impression, that was Pippin 🤦♂️
great series!
I feel like reynor perhaps would have had a bit more luck with dropperlords once it was obvious the nydus worms were not going to work. All 400 attempts
Funny how little dropperlords are used, but i guess it would be another unit to require APM?
Reynor needs to stop playing mindlessly by playing the high drone non stop trading build. Against lower level Terran he can break them easily. But against players like Oliveira that has won world champion before, dude has the APM, reaction and knowledge to deal with it, Nydus or whatnot. He needs to play like Serral, by scouting more, and out positioning his opponent more. That's how he beat Oliveira.
I never understand why they NEVER put down some missile turrets to protect against nydus or drops when their armies are spread thin.
"A couple abductions *will* get rid of those Libs~" thats politics for you. :D
tihi just sounded funny
games like this always make me feel like ghost needs an adustment to the snipe ability. Ive always thought it should scale down based on size of unit personally, also reduced damage to burrowed units imo.
I would like your opinions about something that has bothered me for years.
It seems that both zerg and terran have ways of going over the 200/200 limit.
Be it mules, spores, crawlers, overseers, not mentioning the vision with changelings and scans.. while protoss has? observers/hallucination?
But where I think it really is unfair would be the healing factor. Zerg regenerates for free, Terran has medivacs and repair.. protoss has shields that are easily taken out but remain with permanent hull damage. I mean.. do you really think 1hp colossus is with it at 200/200? The on and off battles hurt them more over time. Might be a cool mechanic to see motherships have something for this. Seems like SC2 is balanced except at the ultra high tier where Protoss is supposed to death ball and gets slaughtered.
22:36 is definately he should have 8-12 brood lords, tehy are an effective ramp control of hte valleys to lose snipe sight also forcing terran into a more back and forth.. with brood lord range, it forces out other units to take up suppy, vikings and hellions... broodlings havea variancein their priorty to proximity to it laways seems in hwo shooting and targeting works so adding lings forward int oa brood lord siege gives you a bit a wall to pound some units.. and allows space with fungals from infesters.. I would of transisitioned around 17 minutes.. jsut because the unit type I am using as zerg is ineffective, and brood lords are cost effecting, onyl need ot kill a couple tanks to get their value back...
Lowko is uploading matches of Reynor losing again xD
new ep always at 3am for me sob
As always a reply where Raynor looses 😂
I been saying All Terran should just use MARINE, HELLBAT, MEDI no need marauder
Good news: Blizzard reopened the SC2 CN server
not yet, for now i'm still playing in KR server
I think Reynor tapped out too early in that third game.
Ah, we’re back to casting Reynor losing again
Hellbats are fatter, but still weight the same as hellions, thus you can't fit as many in Medivacs.
2nd line up i do like, semi serral games
I've been looking forward to this.
If a normal man can do it, anyone Can!
Hello, can someone explain to me why a chinese player has a Portuguese Surname? Oliveira means Olive (tree)
Might be similar to a lot of the Korean players who choose usernames in English that just sound cool to them.
Actually he chose this name because he wants to be like Oliveira in the UFC from under dog to champion, and he did it 😊
Thanks bros
Its a gamer name not his real name. Even most western players use in game names, like ShowTime, uThermal, BeastyQT etc. And eastern players in general doesn't like to put their real name online or in the spotlight, they tend to come up with a gamer name they like and use it.
The fastest player in the world is Serral, and I’ll win this debate against anyone.
Gohsts are currently way to strong
I wach u like 6 month now and I didn’t see a single game where Zerg won when Terran had a good number of ghosts
First comment?
And much better than that spoiler shield!
Toss lost again
😶🌫
Music seemed to loud and annoying at the introduction.
Are you a "Gamer" when barely play games and only watch other play instead?
reynor washed up recently
No, zerg has been gutted and these maps suck for zerg. Terrans have been getting imba maps for so long.
علي موحان💚💛💚💋💋💚💋💚💋💚💋💚💋💚💋💚💋💚💋💋💚💋💚💋💚💋💚💋💚💋💋💖💋💖💋💖💋💖💋💖💋💖💋💖💋💖💋💖💖
And Reynor loses again…
What happened to the goat
Terran are just too strong at the moment.
@@martinwest7250 And then comes Serral and eats those "too strong" pro Terrans for breakfast.
@@mariogrivicic4932 yea serral is a monster though. If serral had a more realistic win rate like 65% which is reynors instead of 96% the pro scene would be in favour of terran 55% instead of 51 poor elazor is down there on a 10% win rate vs terran whereas the lowest top 8 terran gumiho is on 27% vs zerg says it all really.
Since when was Reynor the goat? The only real goat contenders are Serral and Maru. Reynor is mechanically fast, that's why he likes to play the mindless 100 drone, non stop trading build. It does work and break lower level Terran players, but against players like Oliveira that has won world championship before, its not effective. Oliveira has the knowledge to deal with this kind of build, not to mention he has the APM and reaction to deal with it, be it Nydus or whatnot. Reynor has the potential to be the best, but he needs to play smarter like Serral, with better strategy instead of just brute force.
First 🎉
there is a funny story, during one tournament in China. Maru and Olivera went to KFC together, after the tournament. Due to Maru is Korean, he can't pay the fried chicken. So Olivera paid bill to exchange the method against Pro Protess😂
dont even need to watch this. reynor is gonna lose. zerg players haven't been as good with the recent patches and against one of the top terrans...unless ur serral ur pretty much done. that baneling nerf really did mess things up against someone who loves using Terran bio
Yeah I get nerfing it so you can't just delete an entire mineral line but the loss of those 5 HP on a unit whose entire value is in their one explosion, which costs the same gas and 2/3rd the minerals of a Roach, was kinda wack. Ling/Ravager and Roach/Ravager/Hydra comps seem to be coming back in style a bit tho which I'm fine with