Hmm can you tell that to the 10 year old who was raped in Ohio who was denied the choice of abortion or to the woman in Idaho who died from ectopic pregnancy due to the sudden law change that to their choice and medical need of it from them.
@@rachaelmiller2289 I am sure that most pro-lifers would agree with certain exceptions, but you are talking about a small percentage. I believe it's around 1% of abortions because of rape.
My daughter was born prematurely and was 3lb11oz when we brought her home from the hospital. She had to wear doll clothing because the preemie clothes were too large. She was perfectly formed and everyone marveled over how tiny she was. Now she is a normal-sized strong, smart, and healthy 7 year old.
Glad she's healthy! A human being is God's greatest creation. So precious as we bare the image of our Creator. That's how valuable humans are in God's eyes.
Me too! My 7 yr old was born 2lbs 9oz and you would never know it. when she was born she had the ability to get out of swaddling and scoot around her incubator which is why so many pro choicers annoy me with their ignorant arguments cuz they have no idea and should visit a Nicu one day! Glad your baby did well too!
Just cause something looks disturbing that doesn't mean its necessarily bad if you were to show a woman giving birth or having her period on camera it would disturbing but by no means wrong or unnatural abortion is the same
@@mansamusa8410 True, but even after you'd watch a woman giving birth, you'd say damn that's disgusting and horrifying but the result is positive and you'll probably support it. You don't see the same reaction when people see how abortion is done.
@@jean-baptistedupont5967 I know how an abortion procedure is done Off the top of my head I know that they insert a tube after numbing the woman's cervix
Yet location determines people's religion, and thus their illogical belief system based on arbitrary rhetoric written thousands of years ago. Religion is the basis for MOST pro life proponents.
I had my son at 22 weeks pregnant. I can remember being in the hospital and One of the nurses saying before I had him he’s not viable she’s not far enough along in her pregnancy. I can’t remember telling that nurse she needed to leave and was no longer going to be taking care of me at all. My son is 16 years old today and the pride and joy of my life!
Then be grateful that you live in a pro-choice country where the government cannot compel you to have an abortion if you choose not to. (I met some immigrants from a communist country once, and they didn't get this at all. They thought that the government had to either force you to get an abortion or force you not to get one. The idea of government saying nothing about this didn't make sense to these people.)
@@flz9231 There is no such thing as _"The_ womb." Every womb has an owner. It's _HER_ womb, not _"The_ womb". That means that if she doesn't want the baby in HER womb to gestate and have the freedom to live, you have to try to convince her to change her mind. And in order to do that, you first will have to convince her to listen to you. I suggest you offer her money. Lots of money. I have known a number of women who had abortions, and I think any of them would have been willing to complete their pregnancies and give birth in exchange for, say, ten million dollars. (Of course, this was some years ago, when dollars could buy more than they buy today.)
Basic biology tells us that a cell is the basic unit of life. The journey of life start with a cell. So in summary her definition says, a clump of basic units of life are taken out a woman's body...wonder what brains are for😂😂😂😂
She read that out of teh Planned Parenthood! LOL what kind of idiot?! She thinks she's educated that's what she started her argument off with! Then she turned that dumb statement that comes from evil people. The Pro lifers wouldn't be showing horrifying things if it werne't needed> But the truth of the evil Planned PArenthood needs to be exposed! You don't wann asee that don't support it cupcake!
We had our baby boy born last month at 28 weeks pregnancy. Beautiful, cute bundle of joy. He's coming home next week. When he was born, he was human alright.
@Rich-fk5zk most pro choice people wouldn't have gotten an abortion or even are for abortion but they know it's not their decision to make because abortion or birth its not go to affect them. Why do you think it's your place to control what other people do?
I am a neonatal nurse practitioner and have seen so many premature babies born. They survive after about 22 weeks. I have also seen miscarriages way more premature and and they are formed perfectly and are just as precious. No argument can convince me it’s not a separate life.
22 weeks? You must work in a top-rate NICU. With a top-rate, world-class NICU, the kind of NICU that serves royalty and billionaires, a 22-week preemie has about 30% chance of surviving long enough to leave and go home.
@@ColonelFredPuntridge since when chances of survival became the prime reason of having abortion or not? I guess if we take chances of survival to have a decision on if we should let this child be born or not then any patient going to a surgery which can result in life and death situation should anyways be considered dead and left alone to pass because who knows they may survive after surgery or not?
@@ColonelFredPuntridge~ Well my great niece isn't royalty nor is the family rich, and she too was born at 22 weeks of pregnancy. She is now a vivacious, very intelligent 9 year old little girl. I don't know where you're from, but babies are born very prematurely every day, and survive. I myself who was a twin, was born at 7 months, weighing only 1-1/2 pounds...
@@Deborahtunes You can survive by being rich, or by having access to the kind of health-care rich people get, or by being very very lucky. (This is why the use of anecdotal evidence is considered a fallacy. And and you yourself born at 7 months is not relevant to a discussion of 22-week preemies. 7 months is 28 weeks, not 22 weeks. Quit trying to flim-flam this argument. The days when such silly trickery was effective in debate ended when _Roe v. Wade_ was overturned.)
@@ColonelFredPuntridge ~ You missed the point. You believe that only rich people get access to that kind of health care. Which is far from the truth. Since my nephew's wife had two children born premature, one at 24 weeks, and one at 22 weeks. Luck had nothing to do with anything. As for my birth, being that I was born a twin, in the 60's, it is relevant. Technology was no where near as advanced back then. I was lucky to survive at the time...
Yes, I agree. Kristen diatribe against women's access to abortion and to abortion itself is pretty biased and not very clever. She does make a bit of a jerk of herself opposing women's rights over their own bodies.
Saying you don’t want to see “the gore” when it comes to abortion means you feel guilty when you realize what actually happens in the procedure you support. And if you don’t feel guilty, you’re a sociopath.
6 foot five and built like a brick shit house… still faint at the sight of my own blood. I’m so guilty for giving blood donations. Thanks for trivialising my active kindness
@@blindbrad4719 - You trivialized your own “kindness” by creating a false equivalency. And I’m assuming you did so because you, too, feel guilty about supporting abortion. Good. You should feel guilty. Get back to me when you can talk about the issue like a man instead of hiding behind the ridiculous fact that you’re scared of your own blood… like that has any barring on the abortion issue at all.
She said that “women should have the right to choose to have a baby”. But you also have the right to take birth control to prevent it in the first place. Wheres the responsibility?
Except both arguments are driven by idiots. One is driven by a belief in religion...self explanatory really, the other is driven by disregard for life and convenience, oh and being able to scream like a moral crusader. The reality is, they're both utter dogshit views to hold. Me? I want restrictions on abortion after 3 months, around the time full formation is complete, and that's it. The issue with this woman with the "Safe, Rare and Legal" T Shirt is the Pro Choice line has become Pro Abortion. It should never be about this. I don't want women cutting themselves to death because they can't find a legal clinic anymore than I want a strip mall of McDivorces and Abortion King's. As with all things in life, 2 massively ignorant and loud groups of self righteous pillocks are drowning out any sensible and complex discussion of the issue. If that offended you, good, that was kinda the whole point.
Im driving home to my "Clump of cells". Taking her flowers. My three little "Clumps of cells" will then meet me at the door. I'm also planning on taking out my furry "Clumps of cells" out for a walk thereafter. This talk has really helped me to re-evaluate everything.
My niece was born 52 years ago at 30 weeks. She weighed 1#15ounces. She was fully formed and is a teacher, has 4 children - all born full term and over 9#.
I was born a month premature and my mother had to take drugs to keep me alive while I was in her womb. when I was born I had club feet, weak lugs and crossed eyes and homely yet my mother toke me home and raised me with her other children who had genetic problems. she brought me to doctors who could handle and change my conditions. thank you Jesus for giving me a conscious. I have suffered learn problems and social interaction problems growing up but I always know right from wrong and had a conscious. those women in the audience seem to be selfish ugly soul less creatures. no conscious at all.
All "progressive", liberal ideas lack logic. I tell people "I'm not smart enough to be a liberal because I can't align all the illogical hoops necessary to make liberal arguments."
The girl's logic is not flawed and Kristan does not have facts to challenge her mother's to go forward. Kristan has to drag out the old "whataboutism" to support her own specious argument. That is the tired defense of someone who has no alternate solution in hand, who is not interested in compromise and who has no interest in exploring other possible solutions. It is also a red flag for people with narrow beliefs and who want to keep the baby regardless of the mother's wishes. You must like what Kristan has to say because she definitely has a lot to say about abortion. She really doesn't have the evidence or knowledge to argue her points successfully. She relies heavily on a few key points and will not even acknowledge that someone is confronting her with respect to her position on abortion. And Kristan herself relies on stuff she googled on the web.
@@katestevens86 the old whataboutisms is also an argument that pro choice people use. What about rape,what about incest,what about poverty,what about my career,what about is usually the pro choice argument. You have no alternative either accept abortion because it suits your narrative. Most abortions are performed because the mother,for whatever reason has changed her mind about having a child. Don't play the sexual assault card either because 1% or less of abortions are performed because of sexual assault, the rest are performed because its convenient to the mother or even both parties. I would love to see you debate Kristan,she would wipe the floor with you the same way she does with every other pro choicer.Also I bet you google a lot of things like abortion.ls all your stuff original?can you give a totally different argument or perspective??I bet you can't. C'mon Einstein I'm dying to hear from ya.
My wife and I have a 3 month old daughter. 3 months before she was conceived, my wife had a miscarriage. Our baby, human baby with a heart beat, was 9 weeks when it happened. It's our child. That child was just as valuable, and as important as my wife and I
I miscarried 5 weeks before we conceived our daughter. We were still numb and shattered from the loss of the child we would never meet when we found out we had another one on the way… it’s a jarring feeling. Also that miscarriage made me even more prolife. There’s no question that someone died… I cannot imagine choosing that for convenience. It’s horrible.
Yeah, one common denominator for all pro-abortion and woke and leftist individuals is this surreal arrogance that they are right no matter what and everyone else “simply can’t understand”. It’s the same mentality of Hitler’s Youth.
It's what they do with all things they know are wrong. Jada called her affair with her son's friend "an entanglement". People who step out on their relationships when caught will paint their infidelity as the result that passively happened, not active deed that led to destroying the trust of the now betrayed SO. It sounds better cause it takes the emphasis off whodunnit and shifts it to woeisme. Thus they seemingly create a new victim in the face or the one they just victimized.
So so sad. Makes me think of 'WOE' term used often in the Bible as a reaction to sin & a deep sadness/mourning and longing for them to come to realization of their ignorance
That presumes Pro-Choice people-slaughterers are locally aware. It's as if they are little ants traversing a Topological Manifold. To them such a space looks everywhere like an n-dimensional Euclidean Space. Every point they walk upon, to their perception, has a neighborhood that is "homeomorphic" to an n-space of their own convenience. Abortion Cultists live on Manifolds because it is convenient for them to inherit many of the local properties of convenient-space. If they need room, they can conveniently change each small portion of their convenience space so that it looks like a small portion of a non, or less compact space. They change time and locations, definitions, and even the concept of reification to retrofit all inconvenient definitions to match and complement their little space of convenience. They reify their fantasies and engage in constant conceptual gerrymandering by tinkering with the edges of inconvenient demographic definitions. By definition, Pro-Choicers are anti "fixed definitions." They fix broken clocks twice a day so that they are always right, no matter if they are always wrong. Their definition of convenience is like magic and allows them to assert inconvenient truths out of existence and convenient lies into truth.
Yet it does because the place you were born determines what religion you will follow, if any. So people born in Christian countries are bound to be morally corrupt and believe in things that are based on thousands year old rhetoric.
To the woman asking the question saying that fetuses are not fully formed, I would agree with her, however human brains aren't fully developed until the mid 20s. If she was consistent she should consider anyone under 25 as not having personhood.
Allright they convince me ima be pro-abortion too lets abort the whole human race might as well, you know to end our suffering and all. Because with people like pro-choicers have their way we as a species are screwed so lets just end our suffering.
and if a 'fetus' is only defined as 'a human not fully developed' - as you imply - then why dont we refer to ALL people under 25 as such? What is your counter-argument to that?
@@wylier Maybe you should Google it. Here I'll do it for you. fe·tus /ˈfēdəs/ noun an unborn offspring of a mammal, in particular an unborn human baby more than eight weeks after conception. Must be the UNBORN portion of the definition, what do you think?
When a person wants to justify unjust behavior….they come up with all kinds of irrational excuses. Just say “I want the ability to terminate any pregnancy….” No need to try to define it away with semantics.
I had 2 abortions and I have since regretted it. I feel so depressed every time I think about what I did and vowed never to commit such a terrible act again. I am 6 months pregnant with my 3rd child and I can’t wait to hold him. I am Pro-Life
@CrowdJusticeUS You’re really gonna talk about denying a woman her right to have an abortion? What about the female they are aborting? You can’t talk about rights and relief when you’re literally taking away a baby’s right to live. We get it people deserve rights, but no right of killing another human should be accepted. And what monster feels relief when they kill their child?…
@CrowdJusticeUS Having a choice to kill, doesn‘t mean you have the right to do so. Even if society grants this choice as a „right“ after a vote, there is still natural law that you and I have to obey.
@CrowdJusticeUS but they should know that unprotected sex could lead to having a child and if they can’t raise one at the time then they shouldn’t be engaging in a reproductive act just to satisfy themselves.
@CrowdJusticeUS Sarah was just giving her personal anecdote and you should give her the space to do so. She wasn’t bashing pro choice, she was just sharing her regret for once following along side that idea. Once you being to get confrontational and immediately start explaining why pro choice is actually better, it sounds invalidating. If you or someone you know wants to get an abortion sometime in your life I hope you or that person can get one safely and you don’t regret it. Personally my grandmother was in the same situation, where she had one son and don’t want another child just yet, that child was my mother. It’s clear what decision my grandmother made since I’m typing this right now, and we have the best relationship. She dreads the facts that she even considered otherwise. Just some food for thought
My nephew was born extremely premature at 20 weeks into my sisters pregnancy. He was tiny (smaller than my hand), but he was fully formed. He had to spend the first few weeks of his life in hospital, and guess what… he was and is HUMAN.
Very interesting to hear her ask, "does it have a brain that is fully formed?" Young lady, you're in college so most likely between 18-22 years of age. Your brain isn't fully developed until you are 25. Doesn't give anyone the right to end your life.
I will never forget when I was pregnant with my daughter, at five months, she would get hiccups and kick and turn in my tummy and I could see her head and feet pushing against my abdominal wall. She was absolutely not just a clump of cells. She was also 6 weeks premature.
No one is saying a 5 month old is a clump of cells. When women usually have abortions it’s less than 12 weeks in and usually around 8 weeks in which yes it’s not like a baby yet.
I love that she started by claiming she was knowledgeable about abortion and then immediately flipped to "you can't know anything about abortion if you're not a scientist"
@@ALJ9000 You might be surprised. Scientists are human. And we use emotional appeals all the time, mostly in grant-proposals and lectures, although in some cases it's subtle. A sentence like "the potential activities of the enzymes are limited by the twenty canonical amino-acids of which proteins, including enzymes, are made" sounds very dry, but it's really a sentence about a hero who needs to forge anew sword in order to kill a dragon and take its treasure. Now that is an emotional story (as Wagner understood). In any case, appeal to authority is not always a fallacy. Not when the authority you appeal to know a great deal about the subject you are discussing and your interlocutor knows very little about it. For instance, did you know that there isn't a "moment of conception" when the sperm fuses with the egg? It's actually the beginning of a _process_ of conception which takes several hours. When someone mentions the "moment of conception" you can be pretty sure he's not an embryologist.
@@ColonelFredPuntridge True, it isn’t instantaneous, but it does become it’s own organism at the point of conception. Also, if the authority is objectively incorrect or biased, what then?
She speaks the truth in the presence of people who just can’t accept it, very courageous, when you debate with people like those pro choice students, rationality goes flying out the window
Pro choice people are failing to use the most logical tool at their disposal, which is to point out that a vast majority of abortions happen before eight weeks, before the fetus grows to a point that it is aware of what's happening. Also, who cares if life begins at conception. We're women, we decide who lives and dies.
@@sarahrobertson634 so for those who see abortion as murder, will they be paying for the childs meals, clothes, home and ao on? Will you be helping provide for that child? Because to me it seems that those who see abortion as murder can only fall on the argument of "abortion is murder, or life is precious" which arent good arguments. A single parent who keeps the child will be working 50, 60, 70 hours a week juat to put food and clothes on the child and to put a roof over its head and so on. Now if someone is to keep that child and you as the individual who is pro-life knows the outcome of that childs future which is being homeless would you still keep the child?...
@@brandonpropterhoc Are you asking if I pay taxes? Yes, I pay taxes. There are plenty of mothers out there who don't work at all and get enough support to raise a child purely off of government programs. Maybe if we stopped spending government money on art and gender studies, we'd have even more money available to help struggling mothers. I make more than enough working normal hours to support my daughter, so I don't know what the hell you're talking about with that one. This last argument is ridiculous. Should we go out and start killing off homeless people? I mean, they're already homeless. You want to kill children just because they might become homeless in the future so what's the difference? This is just to ridiculous, maybe you mean that the child will be homeless with their parent who is homeless? But that's also completely ridiculous. We should let the mother kill their child because they're homeless? You do know that people are on waiting lists to adopt new borns in the states right? You seem to have this idea that because someone makes a mistake it somehow justifies killing babies... I don't think I'll ever be able to understand the mental gymnastics it takes to come to such a conclusion.
Was Bout to comment on the same thing .. doesn't know the difference between maternity and paternity 😂. Asks the speaker how she is qualified.. the 2 minutes later says she herself isn't a scientist.... That's some woke logic. Talking about a fetous like it's a cancer .. clump of cells... Shoes her absolute ignorance of basic biology
The fact that these pro-death scum feel confident and cocky enough to stand up and publicly show their ignorance shows the extreme level of brainwashing that the system has had on pushing this evil
My son was born 6 weeks early. Totally formed and healthy he didn't need anything to help him live once he was born besides my breast milk! Now he is a happy healthy 9 year old. He was so tiny 4lbs. Doctors tell me he will be 6'2" at 18. It is a life that needs time to grow but its a baby!! Just look at any ultrasound. I had one, once a week throughout my pregnancy. I watched him breathe the fluid and see his heart beat as early as 1 month. If you don't want a baby just use protection. Be proactive. You will live with the guilt for the rest of your life. I haven't met a woman yet that is proud of her decision. It comes from a dark place it is not celebrated and should not be.
Yeah, and even born babies are not fully sentient either!! You can see them become more aware and sentient as they grow. So the "conscious" or "sentient" argument is garbage as well
I mean, I get that things change after passing the birth canal and cutting the cord…. But what about when you feel the baby kick? If you drink something cold, poke a pregnant woman’s belly, put a Doppler on a baby it’s going to move. That’s pretty alert and is a sign of intelligence to me. Also not to mention that fetuses start moving around 5 weeks gestation. They also begin developing neurotransmitters (5 senses) are 5 weeks gestation…. About 3 weeks post intercourse.
@@MarshalWalk3r the examples you’ve given Is an example of expulsion of electric energy which happens to dying humans as well. The frog was alive as the chicken was alive. You can not expel what you never had-life.
My sweet baby nephew was born at 24 weeks gestation. He was 1lb, 12oz, and he was absolutely perfect- just incredibly small. He had nearly zero percent body fat so he was skin and bones, he literally had no butt. Like no fat for booty cheeks so it looked like he didn’t have a butt. This was 19 years ago, I had never even heard of a baby that tiny surviving, and in my mind certainly not without major, lifelong health issues. The doctors prepared us over and over and over how much of a roller coaster ride we were in for- with brain bleeds and seizures and lung issues, and a million other things.... He turned 19 a few months ago. Smart, sweet, tall (6’3) and most importantly healthy as a horse. He, actually quite miraculously, had exactly zero health issues, neither in the hospital nor when he came home. I have no children, and it looks like it’s staying that way so my niece and nephews ARE my kids- and this is a topic that I’m highly passionate about. I held a little human being that was almost too tiny to even imagine, in my hands. And he was absolutely perfect. But people want to tell me that babies even way further along aren’t real human beings yet? I honestly believe it’s willful ignorance to alleviate the guilt they feel for what they know is wrong. All life is precious, and people don’t get the right to arbitrarily choose who gets to live or die- whose life “counts” or not. PERIOD
The problem with your argument is that most abortions take place in the first trimester of pregnancy, not at '24 weeks or later'. Basically your nephew was born prematurely, and at roughly the stage of development where he was just barely able to survive outside the womb. I am glad to hear he is healthy and thriving, that is definately a 'happy ending'.
@@alexbridgelal3747 The only way you can justify pro life is if you believe a soul magically gets beamed from God into the egg the second the sperm penetrates. Its hilarious
"You didn't have to bring the gore." If that's just a clump of tissue, why does it disturb you so much? They know. They absolutely know what they're arguing for.
@@sarahrobertson634 so you're a murderer? Please fill us in on who and how many people you've killed. Lol. You. Are. Ridiculous. So I can say Sarah is not worthy of life,.... really? Beacause i have a vagina i can say who lives or not? No. That's not okay.
@@sarahrobertson634 it wasnt even what you would think as gory all kristan does is have models of unborn children and two instruments used to do abortions no gore in that these people just want the right to whine and cry ohhhh its offensive whenever its something they dont like
@King Tubbzz People always use that , like that's the end of the argument. So because I was assaulted, I get to murder someone? That's what you're saying. And no one says the person has to keep the child. Think what you're saying, and think how disgusting that is. Just because something horrible happened to you, doesn't give you license to do something equally horrible to an innocent.
@King Tubbzz You think fetuses in the womb don't *FEEL!?* They've shown them trying to get away from the abortionist's instruments. They recoil from the tool used to pierce their brains. If they suck them out and they happen to still be living, did you know they cry in pain ? Did you know the abortion doctors and nurses are told to leave them there, and not offer them any type of aid? They are treated as medical *WASTE.* How does a child grow from something *not alive?* Life cannot come from a non-living organism.
Kristen’s “I’m not a scientist” is a more reasonable answer because she’s pointing out you don’t need to be a scientist. Scientists have already made these discoveries (if they would make their research availible to the public) and you don’t NEED to be a scientist or a biologist to learn from someone else’s research. Like if I said “I mixed red and yellow and got orange” you don’t have to say “I don’t know, I’m not an artist” you don’t have to be an artist to know red and yellow make orange. You don’t have to be fluent in a language to start learning words, and you don’t learn language from people who are fluent (most often from your parents; only a small amount of English professors are fluent. My point is paying 50,000 dollars for a piece of paper doesn’t mean you watched the video your professor told you to watch better than someone who watched the video on their own.
It was a viral moment when then SCOTUS nominee Brown answered “I don’t know, I’m not a biologist,” to Sen. Blackburn’s question, “Can you tell me what a woman is?” The internet would’ve gone nuclear had Sen. Blackburn replied, “Thank you Judge Brown for agreeing with me and the evidence-based conservative pro-life Christian community that gender IS biologically determined!!!”
As someone with a baby delivered via c-section at 32 weeks (2 months early) currently not with me but in the NICU this made me tear up. Ask her if killing a dog is OK, then say "but you're not a vet what makes you qualified to say that?"
Mama dogs, Mama cats carry their unborn babies for some months just like humans do. How is it possible that "lower animals" have more conscience about the sacredness of life? These college students have no conscience or are just simply stupid!
@@topsyturvyy4558 I'd bet she's one of those "punish people that destroy eagle/turtle/snake eggs" type of people too. They see the wrongness in wanton killing, unless it crosses over to human babies in a womb.
In her logic, if you want to kill somebody, a grown ass person, you can do that as long as they’re “unconscious” and it won’t be considered as a murder crime 💀
No because killing an unconscious person that's a fully formed human isn't going to prevent your life from becoming turned upside down. This is the most illogical, cheese brain argument I've ever heard
@@spencergsmith You cant be in a coma if u werent awake in the first place lmao ... So if u kill an unborn baby , its like they never existed because they were always asleep since the beggining of their existence .
This is the real problem we as a people have . This woman tried to defend her pro choice thinking and was repeatedly shot down without doubt. And after several attempts at different angles to justify her stance ,instead of taking a critical look at herself internally, She dismisses Kristen and the whole conversation. Too arrogant to consider the possibility she may be wrong. The little hand gesture as she walks away proves it.
Sadly I lost my baby at 22 weeks. She was perfectly formed despite being so tiny. She is the most beautiful thing I have ever laid eyes on💖💖💖 Edit: Thank you for all the kind words. I am truly overwhelmed 💖💖💖
@@marciasyme4586 very sorry to hear of your sad loss, but your little one will have been taken straight to heaven by God and will be reunited with you one day, God Bless you and all the best wishes for the future.
She might check out Ben Shapiro's comebacks on those questions. Hawkins response to the foetus being a mere cluster of cells argument might be; we are all clusters of cells, what distinguishes an appendix from a foetus is that the foetus is an individual developing human being having its own DNA.
My momma taught me if you’re old enough to make the decision, you’re old enough to handle the outcome so make choices that you are prepared to possibly deal with later.
I’ve had people accuse me as well for. “Using gore and fear tactics” to scare people into being pro-life… and my response is “are you uncomfortable knowing the reality? GOOD you should be uncomfortable when you see what the policies you promote are doing to other humans”
Therefore WHAT?….. What are people supposed to do with all this enlightenment? …… Should they make abortion a criminal offense ?… Which one, murder one or manslaughter?… What should happen to women who get abortions - should they get the death penalty, life in prison, 20 years, weekends in County Jail, a $50 fine, picking up highway trash?… a stern letter?….. Which one is your favorite?….. It matters very little what forced-birthers feel or believe, but what they would actually DO about abortion…. public policy is the only thing that should concern us…..
@@hexl702too5Murder with aggravating factor of parenthood, also, it's no forced Birth, just as it is no "forced feeding" to be legally required to fucking feed your 10 months child so he doesn't die neither it is "forced care" to be required to drive your kid to hospital if he broke his arm or else it is mistreatment, nobody forced you to do the act whose explicit and natural purpose is the reproduction, just like nobody forced you to drive drunk, theres a thing called RESPONSABILITY, now being irresponsable doesn't give you the fucking right to end a human life
@@rosamaundallen1035 depends if she knows it’s a human life. Some women, Especially young ones, have no idea what they’re doing. It’s been so normalized that “it’s just a clump of cells” they have no idea they’re killing a baby. I don’t think they deserve jail time for being gaslighted into manslaughter
Women talk about reproductive rights, but never about Reproductive responsibilities. Women choose sex. they are in control of sex. Who, when, and how. Abortion is murder. plain and simple.
These young children playing at adulthood care only about themselves. Having a baby means that your life doesn’t belong solely to you anymore. These kids don’t want to give up their toys, so they’d rather kill a baby than take responsibility for themselves. Also, glad to see my fellow clumps-of-cells doing well!! Keep up the good work.
I agree too. They want to make grown up, adult decisions, but when asked to support their claim, they can’t or use the excuse “I’m not a biologist”, awful way to present oneself, very petulant.
Wow the lack of brain cells in these comments. The fetus is not a living thing. Doesn't think doesn't feel doesn't have any opinion. But it is a burden on the tax payer.
As a disabled woman who went through the system, I thoroughly appreciate people reminding everyone that every life is equally valuable. That was left out for some time, and it was quite frustrating. Like stop trying to kill babies off because they may face different challenges than your closed mind can understand.
@@MarshalllWalk3r I am sorry but you are the mistaken one. Baby is defined as "a very young child, especially one newly or recently born". The word especially means not exclusively. The word Fetus is defined by the national cancer institute (thats my source) as a, "In humans, an unborn baby that develops and grows inside the uterus (womb)." Interesting how baby can refer to an unborn very young child, and how fetus refers to a unborn baby. Almost like they can be used interchangeably. So before you start pretending to be intellectual and lecture others on how smart you are, you best learn the simple definitions of two words. Now if you want to debate abortion I would love to hear what you believe your perfectly rational and moral argument is for abortion to be acceptable as a method of birth control? As for the original comment, thank you, you are a light to those that try to hide the fact that most would rather have life then have it taken from them without their consent, and that all life is equally valuable.
@@christian11111 Definition porn doesn't do much except shift the discussion to an irrational and emotional level. You don't seem to value the lives of teenagers carrying incestuous rape fetuses. Why?
@@highroller-jq3ix this is grande, so I merely corrected and individual who was putting someone down for using words correctly. They brought up using words per their definition, not me. Additionally, I defined two words, I don’t think that qualifies for definition porn. Either way, let’s keep abortion for incest and rape cases, for any age (not just teenagers). Do you agree then we should ban all other abortions? Or are you just trying to use a scenario that accounts for 1.5% if all abortions to justify the 98.5% of them?
@@christian11111 So something is large in Spanish? What exactly? Did you mean AN individual but didn't have the proper word for such a simple verbal expression? When did you become the arbiter of how much of whatever fetish or erotic frolic is porn? I didn't get the confirmatory memo. Either way, you don't seem to have the intelligence or the rhetorical wherewithal to construct an argument, let alone to assess one. Do people come in amounts, doofus? Am I saying that using the term "baby" in a sensationalistic and emotionally charged way to divert attention from the absence of an actual argument is dishonest and putrid? Yes, I am. If I were helping you say things, they might come across as more intelligent, informed, and persuasive. If you have an actual position, I would appreciate a rational, thoughtful, intelligent argument for the state declaring theofascist eminent domain over uteruses like a backward-ass Taliban-run society. Your moral stance is valid for you, but I don't readily agree that it should be imposed on others. Perhaps, if you take a breath and get that spell check ready, you can persuade me otherwise. And . . . go!
Spontaneous abortions occur far more often than medical abortions. Gynecology textbooks conservatively cite a 15% miscarriage rate, with one medical study finding a spontaneous abortion rate of almost 90% in very early pregnancy. That would make God the greatest abortionist in history!
@@coronaviruskills5051 well considering every person who ever lived died I guess NO ONE should have a Right to Life... trying to compare accidental/unintended deaths with purposeful, premeditated killing is absurd. your argument is absurd and dismissed on those grounds
@@gusmc2220 Give me a break. Every woman should have access to a safe medical abortion if she feels that she is not ready to be a mother. No woman who has an abortion is a "purposeful, premeditated killer". That argument is patently absurd, you clever dick. And guess what?!? The law is on my side.....not on the side of twisted judgmental bigots. And nobody really gives a shit what you think.
The questioner/commenter demonstrates how easily people can disregard medical facts, common sense, morality and conscious in order to hold on to their “choice.” She tried so hard to mask the killing of a baby as a simple choice to not have to deal with consequences associated with sexual activity (so that the woman can be free for a career or school or whatever). What about the choice you made to engage in the behavior that leads to pregnancy. Once you do that, you need to deal with the results of that, or choose not to engage in the behavior. You are not making a choice for your own body when you have an abortion, you are making a choice to kill someone else’s body who has no ability to stand up for themselves.
I could have had a abortion when I became pregnant of my first daughter. It was actually expected because i still lived with my parents and went to school. I choose to keep her and keep on going to school so i could have a career. My boyfriend (now husband) agreed. My parents were suprised but supported us in any way they could to set us off with a good start. Everyone outside my family didnt. Made fun of me, berated me, called me a bad mom before my daughter was even born. I got my degree and had 3 more daughters during that time. Its always if you have a baby your life is ruined and you cant pursue your dreams and goals. I showed them you can still do that with children. Its always a if you choose this you cant do that but thats not true its the biggest lie they tell you. Society tells us having a baby is a inconvenience and frankly those people dont deserve them
"What about the choice you made to engage in the behavior that leads to pregnancy" - THANK YOU!!! this needs to be said more. there was a section in this video when i was waiting for Kristan to say this but she didn't. Missed opportunity. When the debate comes up I always like to say "I'm pro choice too, I just think the choice is made about (insert comical number here) minutes before conception" If these women were REALLY concerned about body autonomy and having control over their future they would realize that the choices made PRE conception are the ones to think about.
“What makes you qualified to have an opinion on this topic? Are you a doctor? Are you an OBGYN?” [goes on to state many opinions as an unqualified person] This is a logical fallacy.
That's incredibly idiotic. When your money is being taken away because "responsibility" for these fucking humans that have kids they can't afford yeah that's great cool
The rational mind would think "Pro Choice" means promoting a woman choosing responsible safe sex, it's as though it never enters their mind that the world is not forcing them to have sex and have a baby and their only option is abortion , though like so many other agendas this is just another one promoted to attack western values and these easily influenced trenders hop on any train they are pushed towards
This is 100% correct. Their only point is rape... that's it. Rape... that's ALL they have to make a point around. Newsflash, most women don't get raped...
Also, the demanding that you are a doctor, scientist or biologist is really starting to piss me off. Who taught these idiots you have to graduate from a college and have a high ranking medical degree to know basic things?!? Most of the smartest people in the world didn't go to college. Where do these kids get their information? My generation LITERALLY just 20 years ago was starting to wake up and realize that college was a scam and wasn't educating you at all and turns out you don't even really need college in the internet age.... my generation just 15 years ago was destroying the university system because we knew better.... but now they are back on insisting that College is the only source of information and your HAVE to go to medical school to know anything?!? Wtf?!? This is why I HATE nerds.. they don't pay attention and often just embarrass themselves over what they don't realize... what a bunch of evil fascists...
Kristin should be given a Nobel peace prize she takes so much abuse for just trying to save children lives. Which is something we should all try to do.
Nobel peace prize is just a tool for the globalists to prop up garbage presidents and politicians and other so called elites that they can control, like Kissinger and Obama....both gross. But I agree with your statement if the Nobel peace prize wasn't so tainted.
Abortion is a body autonomy issue, period. The fetus is a physical extension of the mother up to the point that it is officially separated from the mother, either through birth or otherwise. It is at the discretion of the mother, at any time during the pregnancy, to determine whether the fetus will be born and exist as a human being or not. All this talk about when life begins is moot since there is no specific answer from "science", despite what Kristan interprets from the things she finds online. She uses a hypothetical example of a woman whose life circumstances change drastically in the 9th month as a premise for why she might choose to have an abortion at this point in the pregnancy. This is simply fear-mongering and a gross misrepresentation of the circumstances surrounding the vast, vast majority of late-term abortions. I'm not saying this is impossible, but it is not representative of reality.
The argument about being able to choose whether or not a woman wants to be pregnant is so absurd. The woman did choose. By having heterosexual sex. And before someone comes at me about rape, abortions from rape only account for ~1% of all abortions.
My son was born at 28 weeks. He is 15 years old now and winning jiu-jitsu competitions. Stop making excuses for murdering innocent children. There are no good reasons.
If a woman wants to "choose" not to have a baby, use birth control, or insist the man use a condom, or both! The issue is you want guilt free sex with no responsibility or consequences. Unfortunately for you, life doesn't work that way.
@@SpiralMystic There it is. The argument for abortions because of rape/incest. Rape/incest count for an extremely low percent of abortions. Also, if that's your argument, then we'll compromise. Abortions are allowed for rape/incest cases while all others are outlawed. As such, we get rid of over 95% of abortions. Deal?
@@SpiralMystic Every time abortion has been voted on; rape, incest, and minors 14- have always been the exception. It's simply not relevant in a legal argument. Not to mention the problem is the 99.99% of abortions occurring, not the rape incidents, actual proven rape.
“Only women can talk about abortion” *woman talks about being pro life* “Only women who are pro choice can talk about abortion, unless they’re a doctor in the proper field” Talk about moving the goal post
This young lady called abortion Gore, let's me know that she knows that abortion is wrong and disgusting. If she actually believed her own words, she wouldn't feel any type of way about abortion.. A fetus begins the process of developing a brain around week 5, but it isn't until week 6 or 7 when the neural tube closes and the brain separates into three parts. A baby's heart starts to develop at conception, but is completely formed by 8 weeks into the pregnancy. Congenital heart defects happen during this important first 8 weeks of the baby's development. ABORTION IS MURDER!
No it is not. Abortion is terminating a human fetus. It is not alive. It has POTENTIAL to be life. You can’t consider something that is not viable w life to be alive.
My favorite part is, “Did they have a brain that was fully formed?” Ma’am, do you realize the human brain isn’t finished developing until around 25 years old? What exactly are you advocating for here? 😅
@@wylier by the simplest fact that you reply a comment with a electronic device that was developed by another human so you can share your thoughts and benefits from it Despite before even manage to get here your developed your mind and how you think thanks of the teachings of other fellow humans being.
@@wylier there are 3 type of human evilness: evil by ignorance , evil by fear, evil by will and all 3 cases may justified their evil morality or Legally not matter the argument you present in front of them. the problem is not in their mind but in their hearts . Notbody like or wish to be judged or condemned except for the righteous ones. But what really bothers me is the all the pressure is onto the woman ,Legally the man should pay consequences of an abortion also, why not 9 months in prison? Then we gonna start seeing abortion rights movements for man.
Oh give me a break. "With great power......" Blah, blah, blah....and if the woman knows she is not ready for this "great responsibility", she should have access to a safe medical abortion.
@@katestevens86 If she knew she was not ready, then she should have either: -not engaged in the act until she was - used protection We make our choices but we cannot always choose our consequences. Taking a life because it is inconvenient to you is not dealing with the consequences. Thousands are waiting to adopt. If the people would simply be responsible in those choices it would eliminate the need for over 90% of abortions (therefore taking out the minority outliers- failed protection, rape, incest, etc.).
@@katestevens86 you are the problem with society. These pro choicers don't want to take responsibility. Everything you do in life has a reaction . We need to teach these pro choicers to stop having unprotected s*x and take responsibility .
I commented this on another of your videos, but pro-abortion people love to say clump of cells. I remember believing this lie. Walking in to my first pregnancy appointment at 8 weeks expecting a blob of cells and instead saw a baby, that left little doubt that it was a human being. Movement and all, heart beating, bouncing around. I hope she is getting her money’s worth out of her education she’s receiving, I would be asking a refund if I was her parents lol. Failure of the public school system on deck in this video.
I’m glad you are good to your baby. God bless you. What is sad is that someone in your schooling and lifetime up to that point ever made the effort to teach you different. Now you can help thets with the truth.
That term "clump of cells" is literally just contextual nonsense. That just shows the pro-child murders are just pure evil or so damn stupid that in the context they're using the term "clump of cells" that would literally apply to every human being in the world. We're all just "clumps of cells" under those idiots definition.
I was pro choice as I thought women should have the right to choose what to do with their bodies. As I started watching these debates and becoming more educated in this matter I realized I was very wrong. The problem I have with pro choice is that women are NOT choosing what to do with their own bodies. If a woman (not pregnant) wants to hang herself from a tree, jump over a bridge or whatever you want to do to kill yourself, that's pro choice. Abortion on the other hand though is choosing to end someone elses life. An induced abortion is the killing of a human being. Plain and simple. The fact that Pro choicers try to argue that a "fertilized egg" or just a "cluster of cells" is not a human being is beyond me. 23+23 is 46 gals. Please stop the killing of innocent babies😢
my wife was given an abortion procedure because the "doctor" said she was having an ectopic pregnancy which can be life threatening. after the procedure she went back for her check up 3 weeks later and after reviewing the ultrasound they found twin embrios which made it to 24 weeks before my wife had to have an emergency c section, and i was there when the team of nurses handed them over to me. Believe me they are a miracle and although small, they were fully developed and very precious, i cant believe how so many of these young woman and some men have been convinced that they are just a clump of cells.
Perhaps she DID have an ectopic pregnancy. I’m not an ob-gyn, so please forgive my ignorance if this question is ridiculous. But, might it be possible for one child of a set of triplets to get stuck in the tube, and the other two to have already made it to the womb and implanted?
@@cherwynambuter7873 not sure to honest but, but if an egg settles in the fallopian tube it wont grow a normal growth and could rupture that is why, albeit very rare it can be harmful to the mother but identical twins are one egg that splits in the uterus so i dont think thats possible , and fraternal twins are one egg with 2 sperm that have to make it to the womb to start fertilization so i dont thinks thats possible either, but im not a doctor
@@jasonmarcum9964 not to sure thats even a valid argument, thats like saying if my aunt had balls she would be my uncle. you have to evaluate what is and not what could be
Unfortunately, it wouldn't surprise me that these pro-abortionists probably secretively don't consider you as a human being then. To them you are probably a clump of cells that shouldn't exist. Twisted, isn't it? 🤷
I had a few students that were born without limbs or had half limbs, which to the fat chick in the white shirt, means they aren't human beings. She sure went from 0 to nazi in a babies heartbeat with that line.
She didn't 'stumble' at all, her perspective is simply different than that of Kristen's. At no point did she say "OK, you got me, I have switched my position on this issue!"
@@wylierichardson-tu6zs You're right. She refused to admit she was wrong... She just kept stumbling through the same arguments over and over again, then changing the subject when she didn't know the answer.
3:30 '...women have the right to choose whether or not they want to have a baby...' That choice started when they decided to have sex. Choices have consequences, good or bad ones. If you cannot/will not handle those consequences, then abstain. Don't commit murder because of your own willing bad choice.
Its interesting that the student questioned the speaker's credentials to discredit her, but by the same standard it would disqualify the student who most likely has no degree or "reputable" title, disqualifying her to teach, by her own beliefs
but asking a SPEAKER about her credentials is not 'out of line'. The audience didn't need to have any 'credentials' just to show up and listen to the speaker.
@@wylier You make a good point. It would really be so educational for ALL sides to drop their anger and attitudes and simply listen to different views. It's the best way to learn
They do that all the time. It's like you have to have credentials to every single topic you have opinions on. It's just another tactic to limit free speech because no one on Earth then can have opinions on anything because they supposedly have to have a degree on everything first. It's soooooo stupid.
@@wylier an appeal to authority is just a logical fallacy. There is no law that says an authority is automatically correct or more correct than any other person. It's what their positions are based on that matters. Anyone who relies on authority is being intellectually lazy.
@@wylier it's not completely out of line yes, people want to hear from qualified people who know what they are talking about, But the speaker can have a formal education degree or be in that field of study and still give untrue statements. The speaker could have had a biologist, a doctor, a person who performs abortion speaking truth about pro life and the crowd still most likely wouldn't be persuaded.. maybe someone hopefully might.
I always find it comical when someone says "what gives you the right to be an expert?" Then proceed to be opposing view "expert" claiming they are wrong.
This is a totally different ball park you are referring to. It's funny how the majority of people, based on fear, suddenly expected everyone else to (seemingly/hopefully) protect them from illness instead of being responsible and taking care of their own health.
@@katestevens86 No I can and have had to argue prolife before. It's just nice to hear from prolofe speakers and not feel so alone in your little corner of the world.
You can be both you know. Supporting a punishment for murder, on the basis of how many and who the victims loss affects and having testimonials to that fact would still allow abortions to continue on those that want them. It would also help people be nicer to each other so that if you’re ever murdered and the killer is caught he’s gonna go down for plenty long.
''dO yOu HaVe a DegGreE?'' ''ArE YoU a SCiEnTisT?'' degree's aren't always necessary unless you're doing nuclear physics. People can be life long learners on an issue but just because they didnt get a paper their ideas are invalid? Did Aristotle have a degree? Shakespear? Does the pro-abortion lady have a degree herself?
Such questions are a sure sign of a feeble brain that is running out of intelligent arguments. When people resort to ad hominem attacks, you already know they are wrong even if you don't know what they are arguing about.
I just wish they would be consistent with their views. I’d respect their point of view and opinion more if they just straight up said “a baby in the womb can be murdered if the mother chooses at any point in time for any reason.” The cognitive dissonance and the hoops they jump through is just ridiculous.
Because they know what they are really suggesting feels morally wrong. It's a form of denial. And also because it leads to the argument "some human lives are worth more than others" and "might makes right" - and that doesn't really go well with equality and human rights.
@@hilarywhatley1335 the valuation of human life has less bearing on the issue as when human life actually begins. The 'might makes right' argument has even less bearing on the issue, as its a reference to military strength.
@@wylier Hm. My comment got deleted for some reason. I will write it again. Let me explain what I meant by "might makes right". I don't mean this in a military context at all. I am referring to a power imbalance between born people and preborn people. Born people have a voice and therefore have more power than preborn people, who have no voice. Next: When does human life begin? You can google this; science is pretty uniform on this one. Life begins at conception. You may not be arguing so much as to whether or not human life has begun (that would defy science), but rather, whether or not this preborn human is indeed a person deserving of equal human rights. I argue yes.
Woman are turning into monsters!!! What on Earth is going on?! Iv lost two little souls both before ten weeks and it crushed me. I’m now mother to two sons and these woman give me chills with how cold hearted they are. I hope to god my sons find loving woman in the future...not one of these brain washed drones
My niece had a baby at 25 weeks. The baby was 1-1/2 lbs. my grand nephew is 4 years old now. He’s a beautiful, smart baby. A gift from God. A miracle baby.
If consciousness is a criteria for personhood, is one human in the middle of surgery? Is my cousin's 14 yo, who had a 4-wheeler accident still human even though he's on a ventilator? Are the profoundly developmentally delayed human? What about older dementia patients? You, in the middle of the night when you're deeply asleep? My second trimester baby was human. Not sure she was human during her adolescence but she regained personhood as an adult.
"Abortion has never been about choice. It is about
escaping the consequences of your choice by
taking away all choices from someone else."
Well said!
Hmm can you tell that to the 10 year old who was raped in Ohio who was denied the choice of abortion or to the woman in Idaho who died from ectopic pregnancy due to the sudden law change that to their choice and medical need of it from them.
@@rachaelmiller2289 this is exactly what I'm talking about. It's way more examples where pro choice should be allowed.
@@rachaelmiller2289 It is always the same crutch “rape or ectopic pregnancy” but statistically these are in a very small percentage.
@@rachaelmiller2289 I am sure that most pro-lifers would agree with certain exceptions, but you are talking about a small percentage. I believe it's around 1% of abortions because of rape.
My daughter was born prematurely and was 3lb11oz when we brought her home from the hospital. She had to wear doll clothing because the preemie clothes were too large. She was perfectly formed and everyone marveled over how tiny she was. Now she is a normal-sized strong, smart, and healthy 7 year old.
Glad she's healthy!
A human being is God's greatest creation. So precious as we bare the image of our Creator. That's how valuable humans are in God's eyes.
Me too! My 7 yr old was born 2lbs 9oz and you would never know it. when she was born she had the ability to get out of swaddling and scoot around her incubator which is why so many pro choicers annoy me with their ignorant arguments cuz they have no idea and should visit a Nicu one day! Glad your baby did well too!
congrats
A person’s a person, no matter how small!
God bless you , your husband, and your beautiful.baby.
“You didn’t have to bring out the gore”. Abortion is by definition gore.
Just cause something looks disturbing that doesn't mean its necessarily bad if you were to show a woman giving birth or having her period on camera it would disturbing but by no means wrong or unnatural abortion is the same
@@mansamusa8410 True, but even after you'd watch a woman giving birth, you'd say damn that's disgusting and horrifying but the result is positive and you'll probably support it. You don't see the same reaction when people see how abortion is done.
@@mansamusa8410 Tell me you have never seen an abortion procedure without telling me you have never seen an abortion procedure.
Shhhhhh…they’re not very smart. You’re going to hurt their little brains.
@@jean-baptistedupont5967 I know how an abortion procedure is done Off the top of my head I know that they insert a tube after numbing the woman's cervix
"Your humanity cannot depend on your location." That is truly profound!
Yet location determines people's religion, and thus their illogical belief system based on arbitrary rhetoric written thousands of years ago. Religion is the basis for MOST pro life proponents.
“It's hard to win an argument with a smart person, but it's damn near impossible to win an argument with a stupid person.” - Bill Murray
Agreed, this woman is a stupid person who just trusts herself and google. There is no arguing with people like that.
Wise words mr Murray
"Never argue with a fool, they will only drag you down to their level and beat you with experience"
Rather pointless and futile.
unless you can get the stupid person to argue against themselves.
I had my son at 22 weeks pregnant. I can remember being in the hospital and One of the nurses saying before I had him he’s not viable she’s not far enough along in her pregnancy. I can’t remember telling that nurse she needed to leave and was no longer going to be taking care of me at all. My son is 16 years old today and the pride and joy of my life!
Then be grateful that you live in a pro-choice country where the government cannot compel you to have an abortion if you choose not to.
(I met some immigrants from a communist country once, and they didn't get this at all. They thought that the government had to either force you to get an abortion or force you not to get one. The idea of government saying nothing about this didn't make sense to these people.)
@@ColonelFredPuntridge I am grateful to be an American. But I am pro life!
Very much against abortion.
@@chrisseycarbonie9297 I am pro-freedom.
@@ColonelFredPuntridge the baby in the womb has the right and should have the freedom to live!
@@flz9231
There is no such thing as _"The_ womb." Every womb has an owner. It's _HER_ womb, not _"The_ womb".
That means that if she doesn't want the baby in HER womb to gestate and have the freedom to live, you have to try to convince her to change her mind. And in order to do that, you first will have to convince her to listen to you.
I suggest you offer her money. Lots of money. I have known a number of women who had abortions, and I think any of them would have been willing to complete their pregnancies and give birth in exchange for, say, ten million dollars. (Of course, this was some years ago, when dollars could buy more than they buy today.)
"A clump of cells is taken out of the woman's body." Name one living thing that isn't a clump of cells, I'll wait.
It means they were not formed baby fully in the shape of human
Basic biology tells us that a cell is the basic unit of life. The journey of life start with a cell. So in summary her definition says, a clump of basic units of life are taken out a woman's body...wonder what brains are for😂😂😂😂
A prison - it's a clump of cells!!! 😊
She read that out of teh Planned Parenthood! LOL what kind of idiot?! She thinks she's educated that's what she started her argument off with! Then she turned that dumb statement that comes from evil people. The Pro lifers wouldn't be showing horrifying things if it werne't needed> But the truth of the evil Planned PArenthood needs to be exposed! You don't wann asee that don't support it cupcake!
Her
We had our baby boy born last month at 28 weeks pregnancy. Beautiful, cute bundle of joy. He's coming home next week. When he was born, he was human alright.
congrats! stay safe 🍀
You have any idea how many fools would have murdered that innocent child.
Congratulations!! My baby boy was born 25.5 weeks was in nicu 96 days. He is now 3 years old and he is healthy and thriving.
❤❤❤
@Rich-fk5zk most pro choice people wouldn't have gotten an abortion or even are for abortion but they know it's not their decision to make because abortion or birth its not go to affect them. Why do you think it's your place to control what other people do?
I am a neonatal nurse practitioner and have seen so many premature babies born. They survive after about 22 weeks. I have also seen miscarriages way more premature and and they are formed perfectly and are just as precious. No argument can convince me it’s not a separate life.
22 weeks? You must work in a top-rate NICU. With a top-rate, world-class NICU, the kind of NICU that serves royalty and billionaires, a 22-week preemie has about 30% chance of surviving long enough to leave and go home.
@@ColonelFredPuntridge since when chances of survival became the prime reason of having abortion or not?
I guess if we take chances of survival to have a decision on if we should let this child be born or not then any patient going to a surgery which can result in life and death situation should anyways be considered dead and left alone to pass because who knows they may survive after surgery or not?
@@ColonelFredPuntridge~ Well my great niece isn't royalty nor is the family rich, and she too was born at 22 weeks of pregnancy. She is now a vivacious, very intelligent 9 year old little girl.
I don't know where you're from, but babies are born very prematurely every day, and survive.
I myself who was a twin, was born at 7 months, weighing only 1-1/2 pounds...
@@Deborahtunes You can survive by being rich, or by having access to the kind of health-care rich people get, or by being very very lucky. (This is why the use of anecdotal evidence is considered a fallacy. And and you yourself born at 7 months is not relevant to a discussion of 22-week preemies. 7 months is 28 weeks, not 22 weeks. Quit trying to flim-flam this argument. The days when such silly trickery was effective in debate ended when _Roe v. Wade_ was overturned.)
@@ColonelFredPuntridge ~ You missed the point. You believe that only rich people get access to that kind of health care. Which is far from the truth. Since my nephew's wife had two children born premature, one at 24 weeks, and one at 22 weeks. Luck had nothing to do with anything.
As for my birth, being that I was born a twin, in the 60's, it is relevant. Technology was no where near as advanced back then. I was lucky to survive at the time...
Having sex and denying pregnancy is like eating cake and trying to deny weight gain.
Depends on the sex bro… butt sex no pregnancy
So true. They treat life as it is not important.
Liposuction? Are fat cells not living human cells?!
@@coronaviruskills5051 I am impressed with your logic
Believe me, if that girl could, she would.
It's not hard to make these people look foolish, they pretty much do it by themselves.
Yup. Just let them ramble.
“Never interrupt your enemy while they destroy themselves.”
Yes, I agree. Kristen diatribe against women's access to abortion and to abortion itself is pretty biased and not very clever. She does make a bit of a jerk of herself opposing women's rights over their own bodies.
And that's just why I don't engage people with their pro life placards in the street.
@@katestevens86 stop killing kids. Calling abortion womens health is like calling Jeffrey Dahmer a chef.
I was born at 23 weeks and almost died. It sickens me when people say it’s okay.
Saying you don’t want to see “the gore” when it comes to abortion means you feel guilty when you realize what actually happens in the procedure you support. And if you don’t feel guilty, you’re a sociopath.
6 foot five and built like a brick shit house… still faint at the sight of my own blood. I’m so guilty for giving blood donations. Thanks for trivialising my active kindness
@@blindbrad4719 - You trivialized your own “kindness” by creating a false equivalency. And I’m assuming you did so because you, too, feel guilty about supporting abortion. Good. You should feel guilty. Get back to me when you can talk about the issue like a man instead of hiding behind the ridiculous fact that you’re scared of your own blood… like that has any barring on the abortion issue at all.
@@blindbrad4719
Your response here is barely coherent. Your brain must be built like a shit house, too. As in, sh!t-for-brains.
Are you under the impression people like abortions?
@@CaptainFantastic222
Yes, there are a lot of demons that like abortions.
She said that “women should have the right to choose to have a baby”. But you also have the right to take birth control to prevent it in the first place. Wheres the responsibility?
Facts
I always thought that.
Also have the option to not have sex, or at least not inside you.
I agree.
No. They have the right to not fool around with men.
" Never argue with an idiot. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience". - Mark Twain
Amen.
She didn't get dragged down to her level though. The idiot just simply looked like an idiot in front of everyone.
This right here.
Roe v Wade anyone? Is the constitution idiotic?
Except both arguments are driven by idiots. One is driven by a belief in religion...self explanatory really, the other is driven by disregard for life and convenience, oh and being able to scream like a moral crusader. The reality is, they're both utter dogshit views to hold. Me? I want restrictions on abortion after 3 months, around the time full formation is complete, and that's it. The issue with this woman with the "Safe, Rare and Legal" T Shirt is the Pro Choice line has become Pro Abortion. It should never be about this. I don't want women cutting themselves to death because they can't find a legal clinic anymore than I want a strip mall of McDivorces and Abortion King's. As with all things in life, 2 massively ignorant and loud groups of self righteous pillocks are drowning out any sensible and complex discussion of the issue. If that offended you, good, that was kinda the whole point.
Im driving home to my "Clump of cells". Taking her flowers. My three little "Clumps of cells" will then meet me at the door. I'm also planning on taking out my furry "Clumps of cells" out for a walk thereafter. This talk has really helped me to re-evaluate everything.
Both of my children were both prematurely, 27 and 32 weeks, both were small but fully formed. 4 and 7 years later, both are thriving human beings.
*weeks :>. My whole siblings are premature babies too, we're glad we have a strong mother. I believe that being born is really a gift.
My niece was born 52 years ago at 30 weeks. She weighed 1#15ounces. She was fully formed and is a teacher, has 4 children - all born full term and over 9#.
Not nit picking here but I believe you meant weeks
@@joesteele3159 indeed, updated.
I was born a month premature and my mother had to take drugs to keep me alive while I was in her womb. when I was born I had club feet, weak lugs and crossed eyes and homely yet my mother toke me home and raised me with her other children who had genetic problems. she brought me to doctors who could handle and change my conditions. thank you Jesus for giving me a conscious. I have suffered learn problems and social interaction problems growing up but I always know right from wrong and had a conscious. those women in the audience seem to be selfish ugly soul less creatures. no conscious at all.
wow. I had my child prematurely… she was alive and as human as can be. I can’t believe these “pro choicers”… they’re literally adult toddlers.
They literally even reject basic biology
... i don't understand your post, but im happy that you had a child prematurely and not a clump of cells like the abortionist explain things
Realistically she will never be pregnant and most likely doesn't even have a boyfriend.
They scare me 😟
@@spillaking Stupidity scares me too
Kristan is hardly even arguing. She's just asking clarifying question and letting this girl's flawed logic show itself until everybody sees it
Which, sometimes, is the best way to argue a point...ask the right questions.
Yes!
All "progressive", liberal ideas lack logic. I tell people "I'm not smart enough to be a liberal because I can't align all the illogical hoops necessary to make liberal arguments."
The girl's logic is not flawed and Kristan does not have facts to challenge her mother's to go forward. Kristan has to drag out the old "whataboutism" to support her own specious argument. That is the tired defense of someone who has no alternate solution in hand, who is not interested in compromise and who has no interest in exploring other possible solutions. It is also a red flag for people with narrow beliefs and who want to keep the baby regardless of the mother's wishes.
You must like what Kristan has to say because she definitely has a lot to say about abortion. She really doesn't have the evidence or knowledge to argue her points successfully. She relies heavily on a few key points and will not even acknowledge that someone is confronting her with respect to her position on abortion. And Kristan herself relies on stuff she googled on the web.
@@katestevens86 the old whataboutisms is also an argument that pro choice people use. What about rape,what about incest,what about poverty,what about my career,what about is usually the pro choice argument. You have no alternative either accept abortion because it suits your narrative. Most abortions are performed because the mother,for whatever reason has changed her mind about having a child. Don't play the sexual assault card either because 1% or less of abortions are performed because of sexual assault, the rest are performed because its convenient to the mother or even both parties. I would love to see you debate Kristan,she would wipe the floor with you the same way she does with every other pro choicer.Also I bet you google a lot of things like abortion.ls all your stuff original?can you give a totally different argument or perspective??I bet you can't. C'mon Einstein I'm dying to hear from ya.
Children are a blessing! My husband died, and my children have been a joy to my life in my grief for three years!
My wife and I have a 3 month old daughter. 3 months before she was conceived, my wife had a miscarriage. Our baby, human baby with a heart beat, was 9 weeks when it happened. It's our child. That child was just as valuable, and as important as my wife and I
I’m sorry for your loss 💐
You are absolutely right. I'm sorry for your loss.
This is the truth they won't accept this bc they can't be fucking around being with condom or pills. They just wanna fuck and kill the human being
I miscarried 5 weeks before we conceived our daughter. We were still numb and shattered from the loss of the child we would never meet when we found out we had another one on the way… it’s a jarring feeling.
Also that miscarriage made me even more prolife. There’s no question that someone died… I cannot imagine choosing that for convenience. It’s horrible.
I’m sorry for your loss
She calls the whole audience gullible and uneducated, but she doesn't know if a fetus has a heartbeat.
Yeah, one common denominator for all pro-abortion and woke and leftist individuals is this surreal arrogance that they are right no matter what and everyone else “simply can’t understand”. It’s the same mentality of Hitler’s Youth.
She knows the baby has a beating heart, as well as abortions kill babies. She is
a selfish brat who can only recite the same gibberish over and over.
She does, the answer is yes
Dear have hearts. Fish do too, and cows, and birds, and... well you get it, right?
@@iceshadow487 we have human nature, they don’t. Toddlers have human nature, tennagers have human nature, fetuses also have human nature
“Abortion = Moving on with one’s life” That’s the definition that student gave. Sickening.
It's what they do with all things they know are wrong. Jada called her affair with her son's friend "an entanglement". People who step out on their relationships when caught will paint their infidelity as the result that passively happened, not active deed that led to destroying the trust of the now betrayed SO. It sounds better cause it takes the emphasis off whodunnit and shifts it to woeisme. Thus they seemingly create a new victim in the face or the one they just victimized.
Anyone who disagrees should be raped and not provided abortion.
it's a euphemism
Sheeeesh
So so sad. Makes me think of 'WOE' term used often in the Bible as a reaction to sin & a deep sadness/mourning and longing for them to come to realization of their ignorance
"Your humanity can't depend on your location." 💕👍
what about stage of development? I guess that is meaningless, tho.
@@wylierichardson-tu6zsdevelopment doesnt matter human life is human life if you dont wanna make another human abstain from sexual activities, period
That presumes Pro-Choice people-slaughterers are locally aware. It's as if they are little ants traversing a Topological Manifold. To them such a space looks everywhere like an n-dimensional Euclidean Space. Every point they walk upon, to their perception, has a neighborhood that is "homeomorphic" to an n-space of their own convenience. Abortion Cultists live on Manifolds because it is convenient for them to inherit many of the local properties of convenient-space. If they need room, they can conveniently change each small portion of their convenience space so that it looks like a small portion of a non, or less compact space. They change time and locations, definitions, and even the concept of reification to retrofit all inconvenient definitions to match and complement their little space of convenience. They reify their fantasies and engage in constant conceptual gerrymandering by tinkering with the edges of inconvenient demographic definitions. By definition, Pro-Choicers are anti "fixed definitions." They fix broken clocks twice a day so that they are always right, no matter if they are always wrong. Their definition of convenience is like magic and allows them to assert inconvenient truths out of existence and convenient lies into truth.
Yet it does because the place you were born determines what religion you will follow, if any. So people born in Christian countries are bound to be morally corrupt and believe in things that are based on thousands year old rhetoric.
"Does it have a fully formed brain?"
Uh nobody has a fully formed brain till they're 25.
I'll be pro-choice once they'll be consistent with their arguments and start aborting people even after birth up until 25 years.
🤪😂yup
Some people don’t have fully formed brains at all based on how they act and talk to people 😂
Clearly this young lady isn’t 25-
@@Archangel251 ...you are speaking truth in the comments 🙌
To the woman asking the question saying that fetuses are not fully formed, I would agree with her, however human brains aren't fully developed until the mid 20s. If she was consistent she should consider anyone under 25 as not having personhood.
Exactly what I was going to say!
Allright they convince me ima be pro-abortion too lets abort the whole human race might as well, you know to end our suffering and all. Because with people like pro-choicers have their way we as a species are screwed so lets just end our suffering.
and if a 'fetus' is only defined as 'a human not fully developed' - as you imply - then why dont we refer to ALL people under 25 as such? What is your counter-argument to that?
@@wylier
Maybe you should Google it.
Here I'll do it for you.
fe·tus
/ˈfēdəs/
noun
an unborn offspring of a mammal, in particular an unborn human baby more than eight weeks after conception.
Must be the UNBORN portion of the definition, what do you think?
When a person wants to justify unjust behavior….they come up with all kinds of irrational excuses. Just say “I want the ability to terminate any pregnancy….” No need to try to define it away with semantics.
I had 2 abortions and I have since regretted it. I feel so depressed every time I think about what I did and vowed never to commit such a terrible act again. I am 6 months pregnant with my 3rd child and I can’t wait to hold him.
I am Pro-Life
please consider to repent before god
@CrowdJusticeUS You’re really gonna talk about denying a woman her right to have an abortion? What about the female they are aborting? You can’t talk about rights and relief when you’re literally taking away a baby’s right to live. We get it people deserve rights, but no right of killing another human should be accepted. And what monster feels relief when they kill their child?…
@CrowdJusticeUS Having a choice to kill, doesn‘t mean you have the right to do so. Even if society grants this choice as a „right“ after a vote, there is still natural law that you and I have to obey.
@CrowdJusticeUS but they should know that unprotected sex could lead to having a child and if they can’t raise one at the time then they shouldn’t be engaging in a reproductive act just to satisfy themselves.
@CrowdJusticeUS Sarah was just giving her personal anecdote and you should give her the space to do so. She wasn’t bashing pro choice, she was just sharing her regret for once following along side that idea. Once you being to get confrontational and immediately start explaining why pro choice is actually better, it sounds invalidating. If you or someone you know wants to get an abortion sometime in your life I hope you or that person can get one safely and you don’t regret it. Personally my grandmother was in the same situation, where she had one son and don’t want another child just yet, that child was my mother. It’s clear what decision my grandmother made since I’m typing this right now, and we have the best relationship. She dreads the facts that she even considered otherwise. Just some food for thought
This lady deserves a bigger audience.
Shamu needs the space as well
My nephew was born extremely premature at 20 weeks into my sisters pregnancy. He was tiny (smaller than my hand), but he was fully formed. He had to spend the first few weeks of his life in hospital, and guess what… he was and is HUMAN.
Does he have learning difficulties and stuff? ?
:) yes. We know a foetus had a beating heart and a conscious in the first month..
@@marioluigi9599 most likely but it's possible that he doesnt
@@bostinobaddog2040 okayyyy thank u, random person
Not a platypus, then? Hmmm. Wonder how that happened....
Very interesting to hear her ask, "does it have a brain that is fully formed?" Young lady, you're in college so most likely between 18-22 years of age. Your brain isn't fully developed until you are 25. Doesn't give anyone the right to end your life.
I doubt her brain will ever fully develop.
I will never forget when I was pregnant with my daughter, at five months, she would get hiccups and kick and turn in my tummy and I could see her head and feet pushing against my abdominal wall. She was absolutely not just a clump of cells. She was also 6 weeks premature.
No one is saying a 5 month old is a clump of cells. When women usually have abortions it’s less than 12 weeks in and usually around 8 weeks in which yes it’s not like a baby yet.
Yes they are humans, our babies . I wouldn’t take back all the pain and hell I went through carrying both my children.
When live begins is irrelevant to the debate
@@kellysuzanne976 Fetus are most definitely alive and humans. But that is irrelevant to the debate
Awww, this is cute
This woman is the angel of patience.
I love that she started by claiming she was knowledgeable about abortion and then immediately flipped to "you can't know anything about abortion if you're not a scientist"
"Appeal To Authority"
It's a fallacy
Maybe she is a scientist.
@@ColonelFredPuntridge Scientists wouldn’t use fallacies and emotional arguments
@@ALJ9000 You might be surprised. Scientists are human. And we use emotional appeals all the time, mostly in grant-proposals and lectures, although in some cases it's subtle. A sentence like "the potential activities of the enzymes are limited by the twenty canonical amino-acids of which proteins, including enzymes, are made" sounds very dry, but it's really a sentence about a hero who needs to forge anew sword in order to kill a dragon and take its treasure. Now that is an emotional story (as Wagner understood).
In any case, appeal to authority is not always a fallacy. Not when the authority you appeal to know a great deal about the subject you are discussing and your interlocutor knows very little about it.
For instance, did you know that there isn't a "moment of conception" when the sperm fuses with the egg? It's actually the beginning of a _process_ of conception which takes several hours. When someone mentions the "moment of conception" you can be pretty sure he's not an embryologist.
@@ColonelFredPuntridge True, it isn’t instantaneous, but it does become it’s own organism at the point of conception.
Also, if the authority is objectively incorrect or biased, what then?
She speaks the truth in the presence of people who just can’t accept it, very courageous, when you debate with people like those pro choice students, rationality goes flying out the window
why do you say that when pro-choice individuals speak, rationality goes flying out the window?
Pro choice people are failing to use the most logical tool at their disposal, which is to point out that a vast majority of abortions happen before eight weeks, before the fetus grows to a point that it is aware of what's happening. Also, who cares if life begins at conception. We're women, we decide who lives and dies.
@@sarahrobertson634 so for those who see abortion as murder, will they be paying for the childs meals, clothes, home and ao on? Will you be helping provide for that child? Because to me it seems that those who see abortion as murder can only fall on the argument of "abortion is murder, or life is precious" which arent good arguments. A single parent who keeps the child will be working 50, 60, 70 hours a week juat to put food and clothes on the child and to put a roof over its head and so on. Now if someone is to keep that child and you as the individual who is pro-life knows the outcome of that childs future which is being homeless would you still keep the child?...
@@brandonpropterhoc Are you asking if I pay taxes? Yes, I pay taxes. There are plenty of mothers out there who don't work at all and get enough support to raise a child purely off of government programs. Maybe if we stopped spending government money on art and gender studies, we'd have even more money available to help struggling mothers.
I make more than enough working normal hours to support my daughter, so I don't know what the hell you're talking about with that one.
This last argument is ridiculous. Should we go out and start killing off homeless people? I mean, they're already homeless. You want to kill children just because they might become homeless in the future so what's the difference? This is just to ridiculous, maybe you mean that the child will be homeless with their parent who is homeless? But that's also completely ridiculous. We should let the mother kill their child because they're homeless? You do know that people are on waiting lists to adopt new borns in the states right?
You seem to have this idea that because someone makes a mistake it somehow justifies killing babies... I don't think I'll ever be able to understand the mental gymnastics it takes to come to such a conclusion.
@@brandonpropterhoc you really using that old chestnut argument? That's so embarrassing for you. Never heard of adoption?
“Maternity, paternity, whatever”That’s some mesmerizing logic right there 🙄
When fat cells take the place of brain cells this is the result
Thought the same thing.
Was Bout to comment on the same thing .. doesn't know the difference between maternity and paternity 😂. Asks the speaker how she is qualified.. the 2 minutes later says she herself isn't a scientist.... That's some woke logic. Talking about a fetous like it's a cancer .. clump of cells... Shoes her absolute ignorance of basic biology
🤣 thought the same thing
The fact that these pro-death scum feel confident and cocky enough to stand up and publicly show their ignorance shows the extreme level of brainwashing that the system has had on pushing this evil
My son was born 6 weeks early. Totally formed and healthy he didn't need anything to help him live once he was born besides my breast milk! Now he is a happy healthy 9 year old. He was so tiny 4lbs. Doctors tell me he will be 6'2" at 18. It is a life that needs time to grow but its a baby!! Just look at any ultrasound. I had one, once a week throughout my pregnancy. I watched him breathe the fluid and see his heart beat as early as 1 month. If you don't want a baby just use protection. Be proactive. You will live with the guilt for the rest of your life. I haven't met a woman yet that is proud of her decision. It comes from a dark place it is not celebrated and should not be.
Or an unwanted disposable mass of tissue. All perspective
I guarantee you no plenty of people who have had abortions and just don't talk about it, that absolutely do not regret it.
It's amazing to me that this has to be explained to full-grown adults. And they STILL don't get it.
and college students nonetheless
You actually believe the pro choicer has sex with men? Look at that beast.
It's not that they don't get it. It's that they refuse to get it.
Oh they get it. Nothing needs to be explained to willfully ignorant people.
Their bodies are full grown. Their minds are retarded.
This lady (on stage) is legit fearless. Love her
I love how she pointed out that a baby going through a birth canal isn’t just magically conscience or magically human all of a sudden
Yeah, and even born babies are not fully sentient either!! You can see them become more aware and sentient as they grow. So the "conscious" or "sentient" argument is garbage as well
I mean, I get that things change after passing the birth canal and cutting the cord…. But what about when you feel the baby kick? If you drink something cold, poke a pregnant woman’s belly, put a Doppler on a baby it’s going to move. That’s pretty alert and is a sign of intelligence to me. Also not to mention that fetuses start moving around 5 weeks gestation. They also begin developing neurotransmitters (5 senses) are 5 weeks gestation…. About 3 weeks post intercourse.
@@MarshalWalk3r the examples you’ve given Is an example of expulsion of electric energy which happens to dying humans as well. The frog was alive as the chicken was alive. You can not expel what you never had-life.
Honest question: by that logic shouldnt a baby be 9 months old at birth then?
@@callnight1441 no because a birth day is different than a conception day
My twin grandbabes were born at 26 1/2 weeks! Perfect 10yr olds with Zero medical problems
My sweet baby nephew was born at 24 weeks gestation. He was 1lb, 12oz, and he was absolutely perfect- just incredibly small. He had nearly zero percent body fat so he was skin and bones, he literally had no butt. Like no fat for booty cheeks so it looked like he didn’t have a butt. This was 19 years ago, I had never even heard of a baby that tiny surviving, and in my mind certainly not without major, lifelong health issues. The doctors prepared us over and over and over how much of a roller coaster ride we were in for- with brain bleeds and seizures and lung issues, and a million other things.... He turned 19 a few months ago. Smart, sweet, tall (6’3) and most importantly healthy as a horse. He, actually quite miraculously, had exactly zero health issues, neither in the hospital nor when he came home.
I have no children, and it looks like it’s staying that way so my niece and nephews ARE my kids- and this is a topic that I’m highly passionate about.
I held a little human being that was almost too tiny to even imagine, in my hands. And he was absolutely perfect. But people want to tell me that babies even way further along aren’t real human beings yet?
I honestly believe it’s willful ignorance to alleviate the guilt they feel for what they know is wrong.
All life is precious, and people don’t get the right to arbitrarily choose who gets to live or die- whose life “counts” or not. PERIOD
The problem with your argument is that most abortions take place in the first trimester of pregnancy, not at '24 weeks or later'. Basically your nephew was born prematurely, and at roughly the stage of development where he was just barely able to survive outside the womb. I am glad to hear he is healthy and thriving, that is definately a 'happy ending'.
Your conclusion is ironic. Noone gets to decide who lives or dies, yet Pro life get to decide everyone lives.
@@bruvvamoff No one has the right to kill someone who is innocent. Life is a right.
@@alexbridgelal3747 The only way you can justify pro life is if you believe a soul magically gets beamed from God into the egg the second the sperm penetrates. Its hilarious
Preach it 🙏
You don't need to be a scientist to know this any more than you need to be an architect to live in a house.
"You didn't have to bring the gore."
If that's just a clump of tissue, why does it disturb you so much?
They know. They absolutely know what they're arguing for.
@@sarahrobertson634 so you're a murderer? Please fill us in on who and how many people you've killed. Lol. You. Are. Ridiculous. So I can say Sarah is not worthy of life,.... really? Beacause i have a vagina i can say who lives or not? No. That's not okay.
@@sarahrobertson634 it wasnt even what you would think as gory all kristan does is have models of unborn children and two instruments used to do abortions no gore in that these people just want the right to whine and cry ohhhh its offensive whenever its something they dont like
My friend is 6 foot five and built like a brick shit house… He faints at the sight of blood. Pick a better argument
@King Tubbzz People always use that , like that's the end of the argument. So because I was assaulted, I get to murder someone? That's what you're saying. And no one says the person has to keep the child. Think what you're saying, and think how disgusting that is. Just because something horrible happened to you, doesn't give you license to do something equally horrible to an innocent.
@King Tubbzz You think fetuses in the womb don't *FEEL!?* They've shown them trying to get away from the abortionist's instruments. They recoil from the tool used to pierce their brains. If they suck them out and they happen to still be living, did you know they cry in pain ? Did you know the abortion doctors and nurses are told to leave them there, and not offer them any type of aid? They are treated as medical *WASTE.* How does a child grow from something *not alive?* Life cannot come from a non-living organism.
She’s right, women have the right to choose if they want to have a baby. But that decision is to be made Before she gets pregnant
She just said "I'm not a scientist." That's like the new supreme court justice Kentanji Brown saying," I'm not a biologist." 😂
This is an entry answer in finally landing a Clown job
Kristen’s “I’m not a scientist” is a more reasonable answer because she’s pointing out you don’t need to be a scientist. Scientists have already made these discoveries (if they would make their research availible to the public) and you don’t NEED to be a scientist or a biologist to learn from someone else’s research.
Like if I said “I mixed red and yellow and got orange” you don’t have to say “I don’t know, I’m not an artist” you don’t have to be an artist to know red and yellow make orange.
You don’t have to be fluent in a language to start learning words, and you don’t learn language from people who are fluent (most often from your parents; only a small amount of English professors are fluent.
My point is paying 50,000 dollars for a piece of paper doesn’t mean you watched the video your professor told you to watch better than someone who watched the video on their own.
It was a viral moment when then SCOTUS nominee Brown answered “I don’t know, I’m not a biologist,” to Sen. Blackburn’s question, “Can you tell me what a woman is?” The internet would’ve gone nuclear had Sen. Blackburn replied, “Thank you Judge Brown for agreeing with me and the evidence-based conservative pro-life Christian community that gender IS biologically determined!!!”
Yes, that brilliance is trickling down. 🥴
80% of biologists in this country and outside of it, all agree that life begins at conception.
As someone with a baby delivered via c-section at 32 weeks (2 months early) currently not with me but in the NICU this made me tear up. Ask her if killing a dog is OK, then say "but you're not a vet what makes you qualified to say that?"
Mama dogs, Mama cats carry their unborn babies for some months just like humans do. How is it possible that "lower animals" have more conscience about the sacredness of life? These college students have no conscience or are just simply stupid!
@@topsyturvyy4558 I'd bet she's one of those "punish people that destroy eagle/turtle/snake eggs" type of people too. They see the wrongness in wanton killing, unless it crosses over to human babies in a womb.
Such a great idea to say. Thanks 👍🏻😄
@@topsyturvyy4558 Do you really think cats and dogs wouldn't get abortions if they could?
"Were they not human beings?"
"But they came out--"
"Next question!"
Lol Kristan rocks
My sister got an abortion today, and she’s gonna let me keep the fetus as a pet.
In her logic, if you want to kill somebody, a grown ass person, you can do that as long as they’re “unconscious” and it won’t be considered as a murder crime 💀
Being unconscious (in terms of sleeping) is very different from not HAVING a consciousness.
No because killing an unconscious person that's a fully formed human isn't going to prevent your life from becoming turned upside down. This is the most illogical, cheese brain argument I've ever heard
Lol this person's brain is made of cheese. Don't bother trying to talk sense into them.
@@mckenziemcmasters7930 what about a coma patient who will wake up in 9 months?
@@spencergsmith You cant be in a coma if u werent awake in the first place lmao ...
So if u kill an unborn baby , its like they never existed because they were always asleep since the beggining of their existence .
“Your humanity can’t depend on your location “. Brilliant!!
This is the real problem we as a people have .
This woman tried to defend her pro choice thinking and was repeatedly shot down without doubt.
And after several attempts at different angles to justify her stance ,instead of taking a critical look at herself internally,
She dismisses Kristen and the whole conversation.
Too arrogant to consider the possibility she may be wrong.
The little hand gesture as she walks away proves it.
I'm surprised she didn't drop a few F bombs. That's their usual last resort.
Sadly I lost my baby at 22 weeks. She was perfectly formed despite being so tiny. She is the most beautiful thing I have ever laid eyes on💖💖💖
Edit: Thank you for all the kind words. I am truly overwhelmed 💖💖💖
So sorry for your loss.
@@theblueadventurer615 thank you 💖
So sorry to hear of this. May God bless you and yours.
@@dennissmith9259 thank you Dennis. God Bless 🙏
@@marciasyme4586 very sorry to hear of your sad loss, but your little one will have been taken straight to heaven by God and will be reunited with you one day, God Bless you and all the best wishes for the future.
I love how she articulates herself. And she's a beautiful lady inside and out ❤
May God bless and protect her 🙏
I must say this lady is brilliant in her answers, it just they people don’t want to accept facts of life.
I love this lady!!
She might check out Ben Shapiro's comebacks on those questions. Hawkins response to the foetus being a mere cluster of cells argument might be; we are all clusters of cells, what distinguishes an appendix from a foetus is that the foetus is an individual developing human being having its own DNA.
Yes her and Ben Shapiro is where I get most arguments to debate pro choice
@@jaxoncraig2888 Having trouble thinking for yourself?
If I spill my sperm, should I give them all names to sanctify life?
My momma taught me if you’re old enough to make the decision, you’re old enough to handle the outcome so make choices that you are prepared to possibly deal with later.
I’ve had people accuse me as well for. “Using gore and fear tactics” to scare people into being pro-life… and my response is “are you uncomfortable knowing the reality? GOOD you should be uncomfortable when you see what the policies you promote are doing to other humans”
Therefore WHAT?…..
What are people supposed to do with all this enlightenment? ……
Should they make abortion a criminal offense ?…
Which one, murder one or manslaughter?…
What should happen to women who get abortions - should they get the death penalty, life in prison, 20 years, weekends in County Jail, a $50 fine, picking up highway trash?…
a stern letter?…..
Which one is your favorite?…..
It matters very little what forced-birthers feel or believe, but what they would actually DO about abortion….
public policy is the only thing that should concern us…..
@@hexl702too5Murder with aggravating factor of parenthood, also, it's no forced Birth, just as it is no "forced feeding" to be legally required to fucking feed your 10 months child so he doesn't die neither it is "forced care" to be required to drive your kid to hospital if he broke his arm or else it is mistreatment, nobody forced you to do the act whose explicit and natural purpose is the reproduction, just like nobody forced you to drive drunk, theres a thing called RESPONSABILITY, now being irresponsable doesn't give you the fucking right to end a human life
The woman and doctor should go to prison.
@@rosamaundallen1035 depends if she knows it’s a human life. Some women, Especially young ones, have no idea what they’re doing.
It’s been so normalized that “it’s just a clump of cells” they have no idea they’re killing a baby.
I don’t think they deserve jail time for being gaslighted into manslaughter
"you should be uncomfortable when you see what the policies you promote" that's goooood👏
Women talk about reproductive rights, but never about Reproductive responsibilities. Women choose sex. they are in control of sex. Who, when, and how. Abortion is murder. plain and simple.
These young children playing at adulthood care only about themselves. Having a baby means that your life doesn’t belong solely to you anymore. These kids don’t want to give up their toys, so they’d rather kill a baby than take responsibility for themselves.
Also, glad to see my fellow clumps-of-cells doing well!! Keep up the good work.
I agree..
I agree too. They want to make grown up, adult decisions, but when asked to support their claim, they can’t or use the excuse “I’m not a biologist”, awful way to present oneself, very petulant.
these grown children won't deny themselves sex so they deny life.
It’s so simple. Keep your legs closed or use birth control.
Wow the lack of brain cells in these comments. The fetus is not a living thing. Doesn't think doesn't feel doesn't have any opinion. But it is a burden on the tax payer.
As a disabled woman who went through the system, I thoroughly appreciate people reminding everyone that every life is equally valuable. That was left out for some time, and it was quite frustrating.
Like stop trying to kill babies off because they may face different challenges than your closed mind can understand.
@@MarshalllWalk3r please explain why I should care if you take me seriously enough to even bother a semantics debate.
@@MarshalllWalk3r I am sorry but you are the mistaken one. Baby is defined as "a very young child, especially one newly or recently born". The word especially means not exclusively. The word Fetus is defined by the national cancer institute (thats my source) as a, "In humans, an unborn baby that develops and grows inside the uterus (womb)."
Interesting how baby can refer to an unborn very young child, and how fetus refers to a unborn baby. Almost like they can be used interchangeably. So before you start pretending to be intellectual and lecture others on how smart you are, you best learn the simple definitions of two words.
Now if you want to debate abortion I would love to hear what you believe your perfectly rational and moral argument is for abortion to be acceptable as a method of birth control?
As for the original comment, thank you, you are a light to those that try to hide the fact that most would rather have life then have it taken from them without their consent, and that all life is equally valuable.
@@christian11111 Definition porn doesn't do much except shift the discussion to an irrational and emotional level. You don't seem to value the lives of teenagers carrying incestuous rape fetuses. Why?
@@highroller-jq3ix this is grande, so I merely corrected and individual who was putting someone down for using words correctly. They brought up using words per their definition, not me. Additionally, I defined two words, I don’t think that qualifies for definition porn.
Either way, let’s keep abortion for incest and rape cases, for any age (not just teenagers).
Do you agree then we should ban all other abortions? Or are you just trying to use a scenario that accounts for 1.5% if all abortions to justify the 98.5% of them?
@@christian11111 So something is large in Spanish? What exactly? Did you mean AN individual but didn't have the proper word for such a simple verbal expression? When did you become the arbiter of how much of whatever fetish or erotic frolic is porn? I didn't get the confirmatory memo.
Either way, you don't seem to have the intelligence or the rhetorical wherewithal to construct an argument, let alone to assess one. Do people come in amounts, doofus? Am I saying that using the term "baby" in a sensationalistic and emotionally charged way to divert attention from the absence of an actual argument is dishonest and putrid? Yes, I am. If I were helping you say things, they might come across as more intelligent, informed, and persuasive.
If you have an actual position, I would appreciate a rational, thoughtful, intelligent argument for the state declaring theofascist eminent domain over uteruses like a backward-ass Taliban-run society. Your moral stance is valid for you, but I don't readily agree that it should be imposed on others. Perhaps, if you take a breath and get that spell check ready, you can persuade me otherwise. And . . . go!
Kristan is a jewel. God bless her for her eloquence, courage, intellect, and presence.
Spontaneous abortions occur far more often than medical abortions. Gynecology textbooks conservatively cite a 15% miscarriage rate, with one medical study finding a spontaneous abortion rate of almost 90% in very early pregnancy. That would make God the greatest abortionist in history!
@@coronaviruskills5051 well considering every person who ever lived died I guess NO ONE should have a Right to Life...
trying to compare accidental/unintended deaths with purposeful, premeditated killing is absurd. your argument is absurd and dismissed on those grounds
@@gusmc2220 Give me a break. Every woman should have access to a safe medical abortion if she feels that she is not ready to be a mother. No woman who has an abortion is a "purposeful, premeditated killer". That argument is patently absurd, you clever dick. And guess what?!? The law is on my side.....not on the side of twisted judgmental bigots. And nobody really gives a shit what you think.
@@gusmc2220 BOOM ROASTED 😂😂😂
@@coronaviruskills5051 Your name checks out. How many cloth masks do you wear to the grocery store?
This was so frustrating to listen to. The patience you need to have is outstanding.
The questioner/commenter demonstrates how easily people can disregard medical facts, common sense, morality and conscious in order to hold on to their “choice.” She tried so hard to mask the killing of a baby as a simple choice to not have to deal with consequences associated with sexual activity (so that the woman can be free for a career or school or whatever). What about the choice you made to engage in the behavior that leads to pregnancy. Once you do that, you need to deal with the results of that, or choose not to engage in the behavior. You are not making a choice for your own body when you have an abortion, you are making a choice to kill someone else’s body who has no ability to stand up for themselves.
Absolutely
I could have had a abortion when I became pregnant of my first daughter. It was actually expected because i still lived with my parents and went to school. I choose to keep her and keep on going to school so i could have a career. My boyfriend (now husband) agreed. My parents were suprised but supported us in any way they could to set us off with a good start. Everyone outside my family didnt. Made fun of me, berated me, called me a bad mom before my daughter was even born. I got my degree and had 3 more daughters during that time. Its always if you have a baby your life is ruined and you cant pursue your dreams and goals. I showed them you can still do that with children. Its always a if you choose this you cant do that but thats not true its the biggest lie they tell you. Society tells us having a baby is a inconvenience and frankly those people dont deserve them
Very well said!
"What about the choice you made to engage in the behavior that leads to pregnancy" - THANK YOU!!! this needs to be said more. there was a section in this video when i was waiting for Kristan to say this but she didn't. Missed opportunity. When the debate comes up I always like to say "I'm pro choice too, I just think the choice is made about (insert comical number here) minutes before conception" If these women were REALLY concerned about body autonomy and having control over their future they would realize that the choices made PRE conception are the ones to think about.
@Joseph S. contraception does fail. Even sterilization fails.
“What makes you qualified to have an opinion on this topic? Are you a doctor? Are you an OBGYN?”
[goes on to state many opinions as an unqualified person]
This is a logical fallacy.
What are your credentials to ask me for mine?
Abortionists aren't so angry because abortion "takes away" their choice, they're angry because it "gives them" responsibility.
That's incredibly idiotic. When your money is being taken away because "responsibility" for these fucking humans that have kids they can't afford yeah that's great cool
The rational mind would think "Pro Choice" means promoting a woman choosing responsible safe sex, it's as though it never enters their mind that the world is not forcing them to have sex and have a baby and their only option is abortion , though like so many other agendas this is just another one promoted to attack western values and these easily influenced trenders hop on any train they are pushed towards
Bam!👍
This is 100% correct. Their only point is rape... that's it. Rape... that's ALL they have to make a point around. Newsflash, most women don't get raped...
Also, the demanding that you are a doctor, scientist or biologist is really starting to piss me off. Who taught these idiots you have to graduate from a college and have a high ranking medical degree to know basic things?!? Most of the smartest people in the world didn't go to college. Where do these kids get their information? My generation LITERALLY just 20 years ago was starting to wake up and realize that college was a scam and wasn't educating you at all and turns out you don't even really need college in the internet age.... my generation just 15 years ago was destroying the university system because we knew better.... but now they are back on insisting that College is the only source of information and your HAVE to go to medical school to know anything?!? Wtf?!? This is why I HATE nerds.. they don't pay attention and often just embarrass themselves over what they don't realize... what a bunch of evil fascists...
We lost twin boys at 26 weeks. They were perfect little babies which my wife and I held. Don't tell me that was a clump of cells.
Kristin should be given a Nobel peace prize she takes so much abuse for just trying to save children lives. Which is something we should all try to do.
Nobel peace prize is just a tool for the globalists to prop up garbage presidents and politicians and other so called elites that they can control, like Kissinger and Obama....both gross. But I agree with your statement if the Nobel peace prize wasn't so tainted.
She uses logic. Unfortunately those who she argues against use emotions.
There are occasions where the baby will have a condition, where it won’t survive the birth. What is the woman supposed to do then?
@@clairefrier2353 that is not the majority of abortions....they are mostly comprised of ppl who destroys developing human life for convenience.
@@honorbluelovelyful and you know the reasons why women have abortions, do you?
The problem with these people’s arguments for abortion is they have none.
Apart from it's woman gets decide when and with whom she has a pregnancy... Do you have a counter argument to that?
Abortion is a body autonomy issue, period. The fetus is a physical extension of the mother up to the point that it is officially separated from the mother, either through birth or otherwise. It is at the discretion of the mother, at any time during the pregnancy, to determine whether the fetus will be born and exist as a human being or not. All this talk about when life begins is moot since there is no specific answer from "science", despite what Kristan interprets from the things she finds online. She uses a hypothetical example of a woman whose life circumstances change drastically in the 9th month as a premise for why she might choose to have an abortion at this point in the pregnancy. This is simply fear-mongering and a gross misrepresentation of the circumstances surrounding the vast, vast majority of late-term abortions. I'm not saying this is impossible, but it is not representative of reality.
Since when has that stopped the left?
@@tinfoilpapercut3547 Do trumptards not have abortions? Bet ya trump has paid for it more than once...
The argument about being able to choose whether or not a woman wants to be pregnant is so absurd. The woman did choose. By having heterosexual sex. And before someone comes at me about rape, abortions from rape only account for ~1% of all abortions.
I love this woman, she is a great mother and is doing God's work here.
What's God doing then? Sweet FA by looks of it 🤡
Amen!
She is an incredible debater and speaker. That is rare for a woman I think? I don't watch a lot of debates.
Does God not believe in Roe v Wade and constitutional law?
@@bradleyandrew8971 No.
God has his own Law, above every law from man on Earth.
And part of his Law is. "Thou shall not kill".
My son was born at 28 weeks. He is 15 years old now and winning jiu-jitsu competitions. Stop making excuses for murdering innocent children. There are no good reasons.
If a woman wants to "choose" not to have a baby, use birth control, or insist the man use a condom, or both! The issue is you want guilt free sex with no responsibility or consequences. Unfortunately for you, life doesn't work that way.
It is denial and hedonism. How do people not realize that this is pure hedonism, putting their own pleasure over the life of their own children?
Rape isn’t ‘guilt free sex’.
@@SpiralMystic when were they talking about rape??? Listen to what she's saying and read between the lines.
@@SpiralMystic There it is. The argument for abortions because of rape/incest. Rape/incest count for an extremely low percent of abortions. Also, if that's your argument, then we'll compromise. Abortions are allowed for rape/incest cases while all others are outlawed. As such, we get rid of over 95% of abortions. Deal?
@@SpiralMystic Every time abortion has been voted on; rape, incest, and minors 14- have always been the exception. It's simply not relevant in a legal argument. Not to mention the problem is the 99.99% of abortions occurring, not the rape incidents, actual proven rape.
“Only women can talk about abortion”
*woman talks about being pro life*
“Only women who are pro choice can talk about abortion, unless they’re a doctor in the proper field”
Talk about moving the goal post
Just ask them to define a woman.
Wrong, that baby is half of the father, he has half the rights.
Their arguments consist almost solely in moving the goal posts.
If ye don' have a penis and testicles ye are not allowed to speak about male sexuality and the result of SEXUAL INTERCOURSE BETWEEN MALE AND FEMALE.
Maybe point out the facts that it is the male pro abortionists who tip the public opinion in favour of abortion i.e. the lawmakers of Roe v Wade.
This young lady called abortion Gore, let's me know that she knows that abortion is wrong and disgusting. If she actually believed her own words, she wouldn't feel any type of way about abortion..
A fetus begins the process of developing a brain around week 5, but it isn't until week 6 or 7 when the neural tube closes and the brain separates into three parts.
A baby's heart starts to develop at conception, but is completely formed by 8 weeks into the pregnancy. Congenital heart defects happen during this important first 8 weeks of the baby's development.
ABORTION IS MURDER!
Absolutely!!!
No it is not. Abortion is terminating a human fetus. It is not alive. It has POTENTIAL to be life. You can’t consider something that is not viable w life to be alive.
@@Thesoap0000 Did you have biology in your High school of Junior high school?
@@Raphalou I actually have a bachelors in science.
@@Thesoap0000 so basically, you're giving a response based on emotion, personal opinion, and not scientific truth.
Appreciate the arm strength of the girl holding the mic that high for that long
"Once you leave the vagina, you're a conscious human" 😂😂
Wow,
Ma'am, I remember nothing until I was seven years old 🙂🤣
My favorite part is, “Did they have a brain that was fully formed?” Ma’am, do you realize the human brain isn’t finished developing until around 25 years old? What exactly are you advocating for here? 😅
@@MarshalllWalk3r I can see that you're feeling very upset here, Kristan. I pray that you will find peace. ❤
@@MarshalllWalk3r My sentiments remain the same. Take care, Kristan. ❤
Obviously the baby is conscious they suck their thumb kick their mother inside the womb they also pull away when the abortion forceps come at them.
So if you were delivered via caesarian, you are not a "conscious human"? That's new...
I do hope that one day that pro-abortionist will come to understand that all human beings rely on other human beings to help sustain their life.
that has little to do with human development, tho.
Ubtil they start having their own kids, this is pro-abortionists mindset
@@wylier by the simplest fact that you reply a comment with a electronic device that was developed by another human so you can share your thoughts and benefits from it Despite before even manage to get here your developed your mind and how you think thanks of the teachings of other fellow humans being.
@@jesusfontalvo703 that is not a slam-dunk argument against legal abortion tho.
@@wylier there are 3 type of human evilness: evil by ignorance , evil by fear, evil by will and all 3 cases may justified their evil morality or Legally not matter the argument you present in front of them. the problem is not in their mind but in their hearts .
Notbody like or wish to be judged or condemned except for the righteous ones.
But what really bothers me is the all the pressure is onto the woman ,Legally the man should pay consequences of an abortion also, why not 9 months in prison? Then we gonna start seeing abortion rights movements for man.
The choice came when people engaged in an act that had the potential to create human life.
With great power comes great responsibility
Oh give me a break. "With great power......" Blah, blah, blah....and if the woman knows she is not ready for this "great responsibility", she should have access to a safe medical abortion.
@@katestevens86 If she knew she was not ready, then she should have either:
-not engaged in the act until she was
- used protection
We make our choices but we cannot always choose our consequences.
Taking a life because it is inconvenient to you is not dealing with the consequences.
Thousands are waiting to adopt.
If the people would simply be responsible in those choices it would eliminate the need for over 90% of abortions (therefore taking out the minority outliers- failed protection, rape, incest, etc.).
@@katestevens86 you are the problem with society. These pro choicers don't want to take responsibility. Everything you do in life has a reaction . We need to teach these pro choicers to stop having unprotected s*x and take responsibility .
@@katestevens86 🤣🤣🤣 "safe abortion" good one🤣
@@katestevens86 she shouldn't have opened her legs. 🤷🏻♀️ sorry
Love her pro-life arguments! 💪🏼
I commented this on another of your videos, but pro-abortion people love to say clump of cells. I remember believing this lie. Walking in to my first pregnancy appointment at 8 weeks expecting a blob of cells and instead saw a baby, that left little doubt that it was a human being. Movement and all, heart beating, bouncing around. I hope she is getting her money’s worth out of her education she’s receiving, I would be asking a refund if I was her parents lol. Failure of the public school system on deck in this video.
I’m glad you are good to your baby. God bless you.
What is sad is that someone in your schooling and lifetime up to that point ever made the effort to teach you different.
Now you can help thets with the truth.
Education, nor I.Q. = wisdom.
That term "clump of cells" is literally just contextual nonsense. That just shows the pro-child murders are just pure evil or so damn stupid that in the context they're using the term "clump of cells" that would literally apply to every human being in the world. We're all just "clumps of cells" under those idiots definition.
I love the clump of cells argument. we're all a clump of cells
not a failure in the eyes of the public school system.....😮 getting closer to there goal 🤯😡🙏🇺🇲
I was pro choice as I thought women should have the right to choose what to do with their bodies. As I started watching these debates and becoming more educated in this matter I realized I was very wrong. The problem I have with pro choice is that women are NOT choosing what to do with their own bodies. If a woman (not pregnant) wants to hang herself from a tree, jump over a bridge or whatever you want to do to kill yourself, that's pro choice. Abortion on the other hand though is choosing to end someone elses life. An induced abortion is the killing of a human being. Plain and simple. The fact that Pro choicers try to argue that a "fertilized egg" or just a "cluster of cells" is not a human being is beyond me. 23+23 is 46 gals. Please stop the killing of innocent babies😢
They r disgusting. Cold empty brainless humans
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not every fertilized egg becomes a child or an adult because of those murderers, but every child or adult was once a "clump of cells"
The baby has no “choice” whatsoever. The woman has no right to play god.
Its both. Its killing someone in the woman’s body thus the value is placed on the woman to make decisions on what to do with whats in her body
my wife was given an abortion procedure because the "doctor" said she was having an ectopic pregnancy which can be life threatening. after the procedure she went back for her check up 3 weeks later and after reviewing the ultrasound they found twin embrios which made it to 24 weeks before my wife had to have an emergency c section, and i was there when the team of nurses handed them over to me. Believe me they are a miracle and although small, they were fully developed and very precious, i cant believe how so many of these young woman and some men have been convinced that they are just a clump of cells.
That was a God given blessing right there. 🙏❤️❤️❤️
@@kajira_aurora5809 so let's say this situation turned south and she had miscarried... would that be a god given abortion? Just wondering.
Perhaps she DID have an ectopic pregnancy. I’m not an ob-gyn, so please forgive my ignorance if this question is ridiculous. But, might it be possible for one child of a set of triplets to get stuck in the tube, and the other two to have already made it to the womb and implanted?
@@cherwynambuter7873 not sure to honest but, but if an egg settles in the fallopian tube it wont grow a normal growth and could rupture that is why, albeit very rare it can be harmful to the mother but identical twins are one egg that splits in the uterus so i dont think thats possible , and fraternal twins are one egg with 2 sperm that have to make it to the womb to start fertilization so i dont thinks thats possible either, but im not a doctor
@@jasonmarcum9964 not to sure thats even a valid argument, thats like saying if my aunt had balls she would be my uncle. you have to evaluate what is and not what could be
My child was born 2 months early and he is perfectly healthy at 7 years old. She gave a terrible argument..
I can't decide which I love more, her points or her delivery.
'Almost fully formed at 9 months' yet I stand here born pre mature, just like my sister and many other healthy adults
I can testify too. Born 8 months old, and I was fully formed 👶.
Unfortunately, it wouldn't surprise me that these pro-abortionists probably secretively don't consider you as a human being then. To them you are probably a clump of cells that shouldn't exist. Twisted, isn't it? 🤷
I had a few students that were born without limbs or had half limbs, which to the fat chick in the white shirt, means they aren't human beings. She sure went from 0 to nazi in a babies heartbeat with that line.
she came so confident of herself, just to stumble at her own logic and be infuriate that she can't ask more dumb questions.
She didn't 'stumble' at all, her perspective is simply different than that of Kristen's. At no point did she say "OK, you got me, I have switched my position on this issue!"
@@wylierichardson-tu6zs You're right. She refused to admit she was wrong... She just kept stumbling through the same arguments over and over again, then changing the subject when she didn't know the answer.
I don't know how Kristin can put up with all that she does, but God bless her for doing so!
3:30 '...women have the right to choose whether or not they want to have a baby...'
That choice started when they decided to have sex. Choices have consequences, good or bad ones. If you cannot/will not handle those consequences, then abstain. Don't commit murder because of your own willing bad choice.
So if a woman has been raped our assaulted she should be obliged to keep the baby? Is that what ur saying cu*t?
Its interesting that the student questioned the speaker's credentials to discredit her, but by the same standard it would disqualify the student who most likely has no degree or "reputable" title, disqualifying her to teach, by her own beliefs
but asking a SPEAKER about her credentials is not 'out of line'. The audience didn't need to have any 'credentials' just to show up and listen to the speaker.
@@wylier You make a good point. It would really be so educational for ALL sides to drop their anger and attitudes and simply listen to different views. It's the best way to learn
They do that all the time. It's like you have to have credentials to every single topic you have opinions on. It's just another tactic to limit free speech because no one on Earth then can have opinions on anything because they supposedly have to have a degree on everything first. It's soooooo stupid.
@@wylier an appeal to authority is just a logical fallacy. There is no law that says an authority is automatically correct or more correct than any other person. It's what their positions are based on that matters. Anyone who relies on authority is being intellectually lazy.
@@wylier it's not completely out of line yes, people want to hear from qualified people who know what they are talking about,
But the speaker can have a formal education degree or be in that field of study and still give untrue statements.
The speaker could have had a biologist, a doctor, a person who performs abortion speaking truth about pro life and the crowd still most likely wouldn't be persuaded.. maybe someone hopefully might.
3:35 Women do have the right to choose whether or not they want to have a baby. It's called, don't have sex if you don't want to have a baby.
"ArE yOu A sCiEnTiST oR sOmeThInG?"
Three minutes later:
"I'm not a scientist."
Like does she not hear herself 🤣🤣
I always find it comical when someone says "what gives you the right to be an expert?" Then proceed to be opposing view "expert" claiming they are wrong.
I so love this lady, having control of your body and choices is before murdering your mistakes.
Thank God they always have that choice!!
All of that "my body my choice" stuff really went out the window when covid hit🙄
Thank you for fighting the good fight Kristan!
That Argument really pissed of management, Methodist hosp fired me anyway.
Not exactly. No one held a gun to your head and forced you to get vaccinated.
This is a totally different ball park you are referring to. It's funny how the majority of people, based on fear, suddenly expected everyone else to (seemingly/hopefully) protect them from illness instead of being responsible and taking care of their own health.
What about those that respected bodily autonomy in both cases like myself?
@@ashleighsparkle8810 I'd say work on yourself. Murdering innocent babies is not cool contrary to popular belief.
My niece was born at 27 weeks and she's a human being!
As a former fetus I approve this!
Lol good one!
You’ve come a long way you clump of cells
Just discovered her two days ago and she has given me so many good answers to use. God bless her!
Discovered her today and she is great
Havin' trouble thinking up your own responses????
@@katestevens86 No I can and have had to argue prolife before. It's just nice to hear from prolofe speakers and not feel so alone in your little corner of the world.
prolife*
You can be both you know. Supporting a punishment for murder, on the basis of how many and who the victims loss affects and having testimonials to that fact would still allow abortions to continue on those that want them. It would also help people be nicer to each other so that if you’re ever murdered and the killer is caught he’s gonna go down for plenty long.
''dO yOu HaVe a DegGreE?'' ''ArE YoU a SCiEnTisT?''
degree's aren't always necessary unless you're doing nuclear physics. People can be life long learners on an issue but just because they didnt get a paper their ideas are invalid?
Did Aristotle have a degree? Shakespear?
Does the pro-abortion lady have a degree herself?
You know who will never have a degree? All the babies these sick fucks want killed.
Such questions are a sure sign of a feeble brain that is running out of intelligent arguments. When people resort to ad hominem attacks, you already know they are wrong even if you don't know what they are arguing about.
The argument is very simple. If we don't define life at conception we're do we define it , and by what authority do we define it?
I just wish they would be consistent with their views. I’d respect their point of view and opinion more if they just straight up said “a baby in the womb can be murdered if the mother chooses at any point in time for any reason.”
The cognitive dissonance and the hoops they jump through is just ridiculous.
if they used that wording, tho, wouldn't that be used AGAINST them by the pro-life crowd?
Because they know what they are really suggesting feels morally wrong. It's a form of denial. And also because it leads to the argument "some human lives are worth more than others" and "might makes right" - and that doesn't really go well with equality and human rights.
@@hilarywhatley1335 the valuation of human life has less bearing on the issue as when human life actually begins. The 'might makes right' argument has even less bearing on the issue, as its a reference to military strength.
@@wylier Hm. My comment got deleted for some reason. I will write it again. Let me explain what I meant by "might makes right".
I don't mean this in a military context at all. I am referring to a power imbalance between born people and preborn people. Born people have a voice and therefore have more power than preborn people, who have no voice.
Next: When does human life begin? You can google this; science is pretty uniform on this one. Life begins at conception.
You may not be arguing so much as to whether or not human life has begun (that would defy science), but rather, whether or not this preborn human is indeed a person deserving of equal human rights. I argue yes.
My pursuit of intellectual honesty and consistency is what made me pro-life
Woman are turning into monsters!!! What on Earth is going on?! Iv lost two little souls both before ten weeks and it crushed me. I’m now mother to two sons and these woman give me chills with how cold hearted they are. I hope to god my sons find loving woman in the future...not one of these brain washed drones
We’re living in a sad society. These women are lost, I can’t believe that this is a debate to begin with.
@libenstocks8219 It's amazing how people are easily manipulated. I feel sorry for this great nation.
Lack of God. Rampant feminism. Weak men. Pop culture and internet. Etc etc
@@Rose_amethyst agree
Self love….self absorption…Satan loves it.
My niece had a baby at 25 weeks. The baby was 1-1/2 lbs. my grand nephew is 4 years old now. He’s a beautiful, smart baby. A gift from God. A miracle baby.
If consciousness is a criteria for personhood, is one human in the middle of surgery? Is my cousin's 14 yo, who had a 4-wheeler accident still human even though he's on a ventilator? Are the profoundly developmentally delayed human? What about older dementia patients? You, in the middle of the night when you're deeply asleep?
My second trimester baby was human. Not sure she was human during her adolescence but she regained personhood as an adult.