Awesome review! As a tradesmen in the welding and ironworker industry, the Supertool 300 has come in handy when I needed it the most especially working on highrises and the majority of the tools are on ground level. I've also purchased a Surge but for some reason the 300 is what I prefer. Once again awesome comparison! Thanks for sharing!
Appreciate the comment! I occasionally fall into the same boat, the Super Tool is just a sweet no nonsense tool that gets shit done! Keep hammering man!
I can't explain why but I have to admit that I just love the Rebar and Supertool. I've carried my Wave+ for a couple years now but then picked up the Rebar a few months ago. For some reason I just love that tool. Right after that I picked up the Supertool 300. I carry that now every day for work along with the bit adapter and the ratchet driver.
I definitely have extra love for the super tool 300 as well. However for some reason the Rebar doesn’t do it for me. It’s my least used tool by a lot and I just can’t put my finger on it.
Same here, I started with a surge then a wave, I bought a supertool coz the price was good and now I carry it as my edc. Dont know why but, it feels stronger, lighter and reliable like no other.
Nice review. I was using the Wave+ for a good while as my work EDC and it served me well but after listening to others on the internet and watching countless videos (yours included) I bit the bullet and bought a Surge just to check it out myself and I have to say it's only been about a month but it's definitely became king as far as my work edc. I'm in aviation maintenance and I supplement it with the bit extender/ratchet and bit kit so I have everything I need for those quick last minute minor repairs on me. It keeps me from having to go back to my tool bag in many cases and when the aircraft are close to departure time the quicker you can fix an item the happier everyone is ;) That being said I've been looking at the Super Tool 300M (I like the bit exchanger & small pry bar) mainly because I like the tool set on it vs the standard 300. I don't know if it will replace my Surge. I think that would take a lot ;D but I want to give it a try and have it available if nothing else. I have the Rebar too with the bit kit you showed in your video. It's a little tank of a tool. It never replaced my Wave but it's there if I need it. Anyway, great comparison, like watching your videos, you keep it to point without being biased and just put the information out there. Looking forward to your next one.
When I went picked up the surge it didn’t leave my side for months! That was when I was welding, cutting, grinding, plumbing every day and it was very suited for that environment! The Supertool is really amazing too honestly!
Wow, I really appreciate the kind words! I only have a P2 and am unsure if I'll be getting a P4. I think my opinions are pretty much the same other than the serrated blades looks like a good upgrade to previous models and the standard blade is also better mostly due to thinner cutting geometry. Clay Hayes actually brought the P4 on the show Alone and he's said on his UA-cam channel that he loved it. So I guess it passes as an all around outdoor tool in skilled hands.
Perfect, exactly the comparison I was looking for. I work on the airport and all the cool kids have a multi tool. I want to get one that'll last and have all the right tools I need.
I am conflicted with the rebar and ST300. It is reassuring that everything is attached and secured and nothing to lose. Also if you really want extra drivers you can always get the bit adapter. I really don’t mind exchanging things out and as long as the retention spring on the wave and surge stays tight you won’t lose anything. Also on the surge that t shank adapter is so nice. The ability to have a diamond file, crosscut, wood saw, metal saw, 7 inch or 3 inche saw. The list goes on for that tool. Not to mention the outside accessible knife, serrated blade, AND SCISSORS. And a hell of a pair at that. Personally I edc a surge. The convenience and expansion of tools is very valuable to me over the st300
@@dmam412 When I was doing heady work every day fabricating research setups the Surge was my go to. I have an enduring appreciation for the ST300 but the surge is just what I go for personally.
@@Ayrton4everrr yeah. The scissors matter a lot to me but admittedly there are many alternatives for adding scissors to your edc that make up for the ST300 not having scissors. I don’t like having a companion carry personally but a micra, pioneer x, super tinker, climber, etc are all fine options for adding scissors.
I was between the surge the wave+ the curl and the supertool 300 i finalized it to the two heaviest duty tools and that was ofc both in this video thank you so much for the video you helped me decide the one thats gonna be always gonna be with me on adventures and whatnot i chose the supertool 300
The supertool is honestly my favorite compared to other multi tools I’ve had. It’s opened kerosene drums that didn’t wanna uncap, kept me sane with wood carving, and helped maintain equipment. Wish the wire snipers were a bit more durable. All in all beyond worrying
The long 3D Phillips is no joke! Honestly the standard bit that comes with the surge is not great. I switch it out for a full #2 and #1 Phillips but I’d prefer a #3 and #2 personally (doesn’t exist though). That’s something the ST300 beats it hands down.
Great Review, I definitely struggle between the 300 and Surge. Still couldn’t make up my mind but when you showed the 300 1/4” adapter and your point about the Phillips head and finally the longer blade length I decided my 300 is the better choice. Wanted to see the Bit Kit for the 300. Never saw the fittings. Great Video and like your Commentary it’s excellent. Thanks and God Bless.🙏🏼
8:49 you can actually put up to nine bits into the adapter frame. You can place two bits in one hole if you place them perpendiculary to their long axis (side by side). It will stretch the plastic frame a little bit but not that much that it would brake. I carry my bits like this. I placed a small rubber band over them just to make sure they won't fall out, but it seems they hold in there nicely.
Most of the encounters I have screws being a maintenance/hvac guy is Phillips, torx, flat, and 5/16s self tappers. Changing bits is no issue on the surge. I just worry about those springs wearing oht
When you run into such a variety all the time the exchanger is a must I feel. I feel like a lot of HVAC guys try to have a simpler load-out so I could imagine having the surge cover so many bases makes it an easy choice
The Supertool 300M just needs the big scissors instead of two knives and it would be perfect. A combi-knife would be fine. If you need a real knife or tool in general, then I bring a dedicated tool. A multitool is not meant to replace specialized tool, but to be something-or-nothing-tool when you need it. I've used the Supertool300 (not the M model) and the only thing I'm missing are the scissors and a bit driver. The only complaint I have is the weight; it's getting up there - to high for being comfortable to carry around all day long at work. And the Surge is even heavier and for little extra use. An improvement I would love to see in general is a scissor-style wirestripper. Electricians are some people who would get the most use out of a multitool I think. I usually carry the Rebar because it's so light and capable.
Probably could have drilled it home more but realistically it’s not a major feature for myself and my experiences are what I have to base it off of. Having so many good options for saw blades of all lengths is amazing but I just don’t use my LM saw. I’m pretty sure I’ve genuinely used LM saws for work all of 6 times in 5 yrs that I’ve had saw bladed models. But for some that ability is a big feature and I recognize that. For me what it accomplished is ditching a saw blades while allowing scissors and removing the diamond file for easier use or sharpening
I have the First Version of the Super Tool, the 3D dedicated phillips screw driver is superior. I just bought a Surge at a flea market today for $10.00. I think that for myself, the Super Tool 300 has more of what I would want out of a multi tool seeing I always carry a dedicated folder. Thanx for the video my Brother 👍 ⚔️ ✝️ 🇺🇲
My st300 is so smooth in its operation and I really like that but scissors and the versatility of being able to use other t shank blades puts it over for me.
My ST300 used to be like a balisong when I bought it used. It was kind of fun and nice for awhile but the inner tools were flopping everywhere! LM tightened it up and been a champ since. They're both so good but the surge is really hard to beat.
For me the super tool been my go to for over 15yrs now. Just purchased another with the bit driver for 70 bucks and if you loose a bit it's easy to replace than the surge.
A really good review/ comparison. These decisions are always a compromise. Comfort v size /bulk v tools most used and convince. When you brought out the Knipex, that dwarfs all other pliers tools . For me i have leatherman squirt on keyring always, it's thought of as a toy yet the pliers save the day, small tasks , the file on the squirt is tiny yet capable, knife tiny but can do 80-90% of jobs . Then the Knipex 125mm covers all pliers work . Living in Scotland knife laws don't permit lock blades so that rules out most multitool. For knife and screwdriver victorinox various models, but the basic Recruit or Tourist (with can opner MOD is a must giving me a good Phillips and flat with good clearance ,not so good as that 300 supertool ) is my go to . Still i can deam about that supertool for the toolbox. Currently the leatherman skeletool cx lives there which i hate , blade is way to thick and bits fall out and get lost , worse the damn thing always nips me .
I love my leathermans but a Victorinox compact or pioneer X with a Knipex Cobra XS have been in my pocket for months! Like you said, Cobras blow away any multitool plier
Hard to say which one I prefer. I like aspects of both tools. The one-handed outside tools on the Surge are great and it’s a beast of a tool. Fit and finish on the Super Tool 300 was better for me out of the box (had to send my first Surge back for significant axial bladeplay). I think the Surge will probably be more durable over time due to its stout design.
I typically pick the surge for the rounded handles, diamond file and scissors but it’s a toss up really. Depends on what I’m doing if that Phillips will win me over
@@EngineersPerspective701 It’s hard to pick sometimes. I recently got the Super Tool 300 so I’ve been wanting to carry it more, but I’m still not used to it so I don’t want to leave my Surge behind in case I find the ST 300 doesn’t do what I need it to. I’m a manufacturing engineer and frequently spend my time troubleshooting heat treat equipment. Went on a troubleshooting call today with both ST 300 and Surge in addition to my Knipex Pliers Wrench. Probably a little overkill, but they got the job done.
Lol, all three may have been a bit much! You know it may be a bit melodramatic but switching out multitools is tough especially when you're very used to one. It's almost like loosing a limb because it used to be able to do certain things but now it can't. At least that's how I felt going to the Charge from the Surge in my most recent job transition.
Good point! I’ve definitely used both in the same manner. But the surge is severely limited to the space and clearance between the two implements. While the ST300 can just go for it
Appreciate it! I’ve has really good luck with them holding up until I come across the dreaded Philips self tapping screw. May God have no mercy on those dastardly fasteners
I have both. I will say its nice to hand the supertool to someone and say 'you'll find X in there' and they can just find a tool without instruction. The surge isn't complicated but even though all the tools on the supertool are internal it means they're also easy to find.
The words to search are “Leatherman bit adapter” This link should take you there too. www.leatherman.com/removable-bit-driver-931012.html?gclid=EAIaIQobChMIrfb1psTK8QIVhG1vBB0O5wSkEAQYASABEgKwd_D_BwE
Good comparison video. I carry the Supertool 300 with a first gen universal tool adapter to use 1/4" bits and drivers. It's awesome. I'd carry a surge if it wasn't for leathermans proprietary flat bit exchanger and the wasted space the Scissors occupy. Scissors in a multi tool- For when you need to stop what you are doing and start scrapbooking! I heard Leatherman was coming out with a new larger framed tool with a complete set of knitting needles. Lol
Definitely a major advantage if that’s a tool you’d use no doubt! There are some amazing saw blades out there and the extra reach really adds capability. I personally don’t use the saws much at all so it’s not something I highlighted but should have for others
@@EngineersPerspective701 Someone already told me that the little hook is so you can put your fingernail to pull the flat tip out. Just about all the bits have the hook. On the super tool 200 it has a notch. I shouldn't have said medium tip, since it is on just about all the tips.
@@garyesada5766 Ah, that little lifter tab. Yeah every tool has it on all leathermans pretty much. Exceptions would be the can opener and blades/saw/file, maybe a few others.
Appreciate the view! Look up “Leatherman bit adapter” or use the below link. www.leatherman.com/removable-bit-driver-931012.html?gclid=EAIaIQobChMIrfb1psTK8QIVhG1vBB0O5wSkEAQYASABEgKwd_D_BwE
@@EngineersPerspective701 right!! I couldn't imagine early 1900s all the first real pocket tools and knives were coming out between case knives,victorinox few others I can't think of atm
@@devatwell334 It's pretty crazy and even consider the full size tools. Channellocks were invented in 1930 or something. It just boggles my mind how people got anything done without these absolute staple tools!
@@EngineersPerspective701 Don't get me wrong the Surge is a better stand alone tool. With the one handed blades, scissors, and the ability to exchange the saw, and file. The thing is us multitool enthusiasts carry more than one multitool. A compact with a Super tool 300 is perfect.
Ok so here's my take on the debate. Really, there is no world where a ST300 is beating the Surge if you're carrying the MT as a one-tool contained system. The ST300 excels in some scenarios, but the Surge can handle those adequately; however the Surge can do some things the ST300 simply can't (like replace a 1h opening knife operable with gloves on). It truly pains me to say because I absolutely love the Bond/Rebar/ST line, but let's be honest here.. if the debate is over an MT for the sake of having an MT then just buy a Surge. Or buy a Supertool first and then a Surge 6 months later so you can glove box the ST300 and never use it again lol. That being said, in my opinion, as soon as you start adding other tools and your MT becomes *part of* a multiple item system, the playing field evens very quickly between them and I imagine the decision becomes highly scenario-specific. From my experience, millwrights, HVAC, engineers, etc. gonna go with Surge every time. Because things like bit exchangers and diamond files give you the finesse you need for highly technical work. I work on a drinking water utility - there's no finesse and everything is big. I need a chunky file for knocking burrs off and scraping old greasy felt gaskets apart, big screwdriver for doing big screwdriver stuff, a way to manipulate heavy gauge tracer wire.. and the tool has to be something I can drop in the mud, pick up, hose out, and not worry about after. ST300 wins for me because I have a Milwaukee fastback and 10in channel locks beside it, and a truck full of tools beside that. It fits a niche in my kit that I don't believe a Surge would. That being said, back when I worked maintenance at a hockey arena, I shelfed the Supertool on my first day and carried a Wave (baby Surge) the entire time. If I could have afforded a Surge at the time it would have been a no-brainer.. because the need for that one-tool option was very present and you can't deny the utility of an onboard bit exchanger and diamond file working inside a facility like that. Been like a year since I posted here, but there's my thought on that! Cheers brother.
Very well said brother! Appreciate you taking the time to put it into words! I totally agree with what you’ve said. I’ve moved away from the Surge when I got fed up with the drivers. But moved back when I was doing more electrical type work. And then moved to the charge in basic everyday edc item.
Something that’s really surprised me is the walk and talk of the spirit x. I like it but at the same time there is a huge loss of fluidity in opening the tool compared to the wave or surge. Not sure I actually prefer it.
@@EngineersPerspective701 cant speak for the new oho swisstools (i have a soldier that is oho and its blade opening is awful)but i dont care for that because not street legal in germany and i am a left handed freak.
I like the Leatherman super tool 300 I have one the biggest problem I have with it is it's hard to tune to tighten when it's loose but I like it the main reason I like it it doesn't have scissors I would have bought a surge but my problem with the surge is the damn scissors I think scissors are the most useless thing to put in a working man's tool I understand you can modify them but it seems to me you should be able to buy one that doesn't have the scissors in it they should have a model that doesn't have the damn scissors they are useless I don't know anybody and I know a lot of people with leathermans and multi tools of different types I don't know any of these people that have found any use for them scissors they are 90% useless they just take space I think the surge is a far better tool as far as the way is made over the super tool 300 but the damn scissors they need to do away with the scissors they're useless for a working man or make one that doesn't have them put something else in there that's more useful
I believe genuine electrician's shears can be an awesome tool but unfortunately these do fall a long way off from what I would normally use. They're just not robust enough to be the right tool when I want a pair of shears. I do use the scissors and find them useful but not a ton or for critical things. Mostly where they come in handy is when I carried it daily for work I ended up having it on all day so it was nice when I was with the family to cut open packages or strings on clothes, paper, etc.
Agreed. I carried a Swiss army knife all through the 80's. Not once did I ever need to use a pair of scissors on a job site or in the woods! I've never needed scissors at home! Always used clippers for my hair, and if I needed something cut, I use a blade. I think most of these yt multi tool channel guys don't ever use their tools for anything but videos and they think scissors are some kind of manly tool you can't live without. Just look how shiny and new their tools are. My Leatherman looks like it's been drug down the highway and beat with a hammer. Because it has.
Awesome review! As a tradesmen in the welding and ironworker industry, the Supertool 300 has come in handy when I needed it the most especially working on highrises and the majority of the tools are on ground level. I've also purchased a Surge but for some reason the 300 is what I prefer. Once again awesome comparison! Thanks for sharing!
Appreciate the comment! I occasionally fall into the same boat, the Super Tool is just a sweet no nonsense tool that gets shit done! Keep hammering man!
I can't explain why but I have to admit that I just love the Rebar and Supertool. I've carried my Wave+ for a couple years now but then picked up the Rebar a few months ago. For some reason I just love that tool. Right after that I picked up the Supertool 300. I carry that now every day for work along with the bit adapter and the ratchet driver.
I definitely have extra love for the super tool 300 as well. However for some reason the Rebar doesn’t do it for me. It’s my least used tool by a lot and I just can’t put my finger on it.
Same here, I started with a surge then a wave, I bought a supertool coz the price was good and now I carry it as my edc. Dont know why but, it feels stronger, lighter and reliable like no other.
I love my surge, because it’s bigger than my wave plus. I love to pocket carry it with a pocket clip
Nice review. I was using the Wave+ for a good while as my work EDC and it served me well but after listening to others on the internet and watching countless videos (yours included) I bit the bullet and bought a Surge just to check it out myself and I have to say it's only been about a month but it's definitely became king as far as my work edc. I'm in aviation maintenance and I supplement it with the bit extender/ratchet and bit kit so I have everything I need for those quick last minute minor repairs on me. It keeps me from having to go back to my tool bag in many cases and when the aircraft are close to departure time the quicker you can fix an item the happier everyone is ;) That being said I've been looking at the Super Tool 300M (I like the bit exchanger & small pry bar) mainly because I like the tool set on it vs the standard 300. I don't know if it will replace my Surge. I think that would take a lot ;D but I want to give it a try and have it available if nothing else. I have the Rebar too with the bit kit you showed in your video. It's a little tank of a tool. It never replaced my Wave but it's there if I need it. Anyway, great comparison, like watching your videos, you keep it to point without being biased and just put the information out there. Looking forward to your next one.
When I went picked up the surge it didn’t leave my side for months! That was when I was welding, cutting, grinding, plumbing every day and it was very suited for that environment!
The Supertool is really amazing too honestly!
Great video man, like the in depth comparison and also the insight on the various options each tool has for bits...
Appreciate the comment, cheers!
Damn, I was set on the surge but your insights have new second guessing myself (which makes this a great comparison btw). Thanks for the video!
Appreciate the words and sorry for complicating the decision! Honestly you won’t be sorry with the Surge, it’s awesome!
@@EngineersPerspective701 Excellent Review!
as a Tech & hopefully engineer in the future,
I'm glad I got the Super Tool instead!
@@zodsinclair8500 It’s a great tool and keep after the engineering job! Always glad to hear someone is pursuing the STEM fields!
Really admire the quality content here and very nice review. Looking forward for Free P4 detailed review.
Wow, I really appreciate the kind words! I only have a P2 and am unsure if I'll be getting a P4. I think my opinions are pretty much the same other than the serrated blades looks like a good upgrade to previous models and the standard blade is also better mostly due to thinner cutting geometry.
Clay Hayes actually brought the P4 on the show Alone and he's said on his UA-cam channel that he loved it. So I guess it passes as an all around outdoor tool in skilled hands.
@@EngineersPerspective701 thank you so much for your reply. Really appreciate your efforts. Greetings from India.
Excellent video - a wealth of detail and insight.
Glad you found it useful!
I have the Super Tool, ST 200 , ST 300 and the Surge.
I carry the Surge most often. The ability to use the bit exchanger is the main reason.
Great choice! Definitely a key feature
Perfect, exactly the comparison I was looking for. I work on the airport and all the cool kids have a multi tool. I want to get one that'll last and have all the right tools I need.
Awesome to hear that it's useful for you! Which one are you leaning towards?
@@EngineersPerspective701 I went with the surge and it has come in handy several times already!
@@davinhunt7558 The surge is my go to work tool! Hope it serves you well!
My personal collection, OHT, Surge and rebar. Nice video!
Thanks! You have a super versatile spread there! Little overlap while covering everything.
Supertool and Rebar are my favorite. Old school design, lighter and nothing to exchange and loose
They are definitely good to go!
I am conflicted with the rebar and ST300. It is reassuring that everything is attached and secured and nothing to lose. Also if you really want extra drivers you can always get the bit adapter.
I really don’t mind exchanging things out and as long as the retention spring on the wave and surge stays tight you won’t lose anything. Also on the surge that t shank adapter is so nice. The ability to have a diamond file, crosscut, wood saw, metal saw, 7 inch or 3 inche saw. The list goes on for that tool. Not to mention the outside accessible knife, serrated blade, AND SCISSORS. And a hell of a pair at that.
Personally I edc a surge. The convenience and expansion of tools is very valuable to me over the st300
@@dmam412 When I was doing heady work every day fabricating research setups the Surge was my go to. I have an enduring appreciation for the ST300 but the surge is just what I go for personally.
@@dmam412 exactly
@@Ayrton4everrr yeah. The scissors matter a lot to me but admittedly there are many alternatives for adding scissors to your edc that make up for the ST300 not having scissors. I don’t like having a companion carry personally but a micra, pioneer x, super tinker, climber, etc are all fine options for adding scissors.
Awesome review thank you
Glad you enjoyed!
I was between the surge the wave+ the curl and the supertool 300 i finalized it to the two heaviest duty tools and that was ofc both in this video thank you so much for the video you helped me decide the one thats gonna be always gonna be with me on adventures and whatnot i chose the supertool 300
That’s awesome! I’m so glad I got to be a part of your decision! Enjoy!
The supertool is honestly my favorite compared to other multi tools I’ve had. It’s opened kerosene drums that didn’t wanna uncap, kept me sane with wood carving, and helped maintain equipment. Wish the wire snipers were a bit more durable. All in all beyond worrying
Beyond worrying is a great way to put it. The ST300 is just utterly dependable!
@@EngineersPerspective701 I had meant worth the money but no doubt leather man makes some great tools
I think I can get 154cm wire cutters inserts for them if u loo around a lot harder than the normal ones
Nice review. I prefer the supertool because of the long Philips driver and the price
The long 3D Phillips is no joke! Honestly the standard bit that comes with the surge is not great. I switch it out for a full #2 and #1 Phillips but I’d prefer a #3 and #2 personally (doesn’t exist though). That’s something the ST300 beats it hands down.
Lowly peasant. Surge or bust
Great Review, I definitely struggle between the 300 and Surge. Still couldn’t make up my mind but when you showed the 300 1/4” adapter and your point about the Phillips head and finally the longer blade length I decided my 300 is the better choice. Wanted to see the Bit Kit for the 300. Never saw the fittings. Great Video and like your Commentary it’s excellent. Thanks and God Bless.🙏🏼
Appreciate the comment! It’s hard to go wrong with the ST300. Potentially the most dependable multitool out there!
8:49 you can actually put up to nine bits into the adapter frame. You can place two bits in one hole if you place them perpendiculary to their long axis (side by side). It will stretch the plastic frame a little bit but not that much that it would brake. I carry my bits like this. I placed a small rubber band over them just to make sure they won't fall out, but it seems they hold in there nicely.
Great tip, thank you for sharing!
Most of the encounters I have screws being a maintenance/hvac guy is Phillips, torx, flat, and 5/16s self tappers. Changing bits is no issue on the surge. I just worry about those springs wearing oht
When you run into such a variety all the time the exchanger is a must I feel. I feel like a lot of HVAC guys try to have a simpler load-out so I could imagine having the surge cover so many bases makes it an easy choice
The Supertool 300M just needs the big scissors instead of two knives and it would be perfect. A combi-knife would be fine. If you need a real knife or tool in general, then I bring a dedicated tool.
A multitool is not meant to replace specialized tool, but to be something-or-nothing-tool when you need it.
I've used the Supertool300 (not the M model) and the only thing I'm missing are the scissors and a bit driver. The only complaint I have is the weight; it's getting up there - to high for being comfortable to carry around all day long at work. And the Surge is even heavier and for little extra use.
An improvement I would love to see in general is a scissor-style wirestripper. Electricians are some people who would get the most use out of a multitool I think.
I usually carry the Rebar because it's so light and capable.
Agreed. I think they really shine when it comes to keeping you from going back down the ladder or sliding out of the crawl space to get another tool.
Unfortunately Leatherman never listen to their customers, even the most loyal ones.
Nice comparison. I’ve had carrying the ST for years. Lately I’ve been considering getting the Surge. Still debating.
Nice to have options!
I bought a Surge. Now I want to customize one with the Surge! Soft drink colors and marketing.
It’s a boss! Enjoy!
I believe you can put double ended wiha bits in your leatherman bit kit card if you want 3d bits.
In the ST300 adapter card you're saying? I need to get me some Wiha products one of these days.
Very good comparison! I am very happy with my supertool 300 less cool factor than other multitools but a real no bs tool !
No bs and ready to get the job done!
I think you really overlooked the whole t-shank ability on the surge.
Probably could have drilled it home more but realistically it’s not a major feature for myself and my experiences are what I have to base it off of.
Having so many good options for saw blades of all lengths is amazing but I just don’t use my LM saw. I’m pretty sure I’ve genuinely used LM saws for work all of 6 times in 5 yrs that I’ve had saw bladed models. But for some that ability is a big feature and I recognize that.
For me what it accomplished is ditching a saw blades while allowing scissors and removing the diamond file for easier use or sharpening
I have the First Version of the Super Tool, the 3D dedicated phillips screw driver is superior. I just bought a Surge at a flea market today for $10.00. I think that for myself, the Super Tool 300 has more of what I would want out of a multi tool seeing I always carry a dedicated folder. Thanx for the video my Brother 👍 ⚔️ ✝️ 🇺🇲
Appreciate the comment!
My st300 is so smooth in its operation and I really like that but scissors and the versatility of being able to use other t shank blades puts it over for me.
My ST300 used to be like a balisong when I bought it used. It was kind of fun and nice for awhile but the inner tools were flopping everywhere! LM tightened it up and been a champ since. They're both so good but the surge is really hard to beat.
@@EngineersPerspective701 mine is the same! Well accept for the tools. I love flipping it around everywhere like a mad man
For me the super tool been my go to for over 15yrs now. Just purchased another with the bit driver for 70 bucks and if you loose a bit it's easy to replace than the surge.
The super tool is a great tool! Been using mine a lot lately for projects around the new house.
A really good review/ comparison. These decisions are always a compromise. Comfort v size /bulk v tools most used and convince. When you brought out the Knipex, that dwarfs all other pliers tools . For me i have leatherman squirt on keyring always, it's thought of as a toy yet the pliers save the day, small tasks , the file on the squirt is tiny yet capable, knife tiny but can do 80-90% of jobs . Then the Knipex 125mm covers all pliers work . Living in Scotland knife laws don't permit lock blades so that rules out most multitool. For knife and screwdriver victorinox various models, but the basic Recruit or Tourist (with can opner MOD is a must giving me a good Phillips and flat with good clearance ,not so good as that 300 supertool ) is my go to .
Still i can deam about that supertool for the toolbox. Currently the leatherman skeletool cx lives there which i hate , blade is way to thick and bits fall out and get lost , worse the damn thing always nips me .
I love my leathermans but a Victorinox compact or pioneer X with a Knipex Cobra XS have been in my pocket for months! Like you said, Cobras blow away any multitool plier
Hard to say which one I prefer. I like aspects of both tools. The one-handed outside tools on the Surge are great and it’s a beast of a tool. Fit and finish on the Super Tool 300 was better for me out of the box (had to send my first Surge back for significant axial bladeplay).
I think the Surge will probably be more durable over time due to its stout design.
I typically pick the surge for the rounded handles, diamond file and scissors but it’s a toss up really. Depends on what I’m doing if that Phillips will win me over
@@EngineersPerspective701 It’s hard to pick sometimes. I recently got the Super Tool 300 so I’ve been wanting to carry it more, but I’m still not used to it so I don’t want to leave my Surge behind in case I find the ST 300 doesn’t do what I need it to.
I’m a manufacturing engineer and frequently spend my time troubleshooting heat treat equipment. Went on a troubleshooting call today with both ST 300 and Surge in addition to my Knipex Pliers Wrench. Probably a little overkill, but they got the job done.
Lol, all three may have been a bit much! You know it may be a bit melodramatic but switching out multitools is tough especially when you're very used to one. It's almost like loosing a limb because it used to be able to do certain things but now it can't. At least that's how I felt going to the Charge from the Surge in my most recent job transition.
Knipex and a Gerber Armbar and SAK classic SD EDC gold!
Using the Knipex as the plier option has been a great combo!
One more thing, when my ST 300 is folded, I can use the flat side(not the ruler one) as a hammer, which I think surge can't
Good point! I’ve definitely used both in the same manner. But the surge is severely limited to the space and clearance between the two implements. While the ST300 can just go for it
3d Philips sounds good in theory until you strip it which will leave tool useless. Atleast with surge u can replace it. Great video man🤙🏽
Appreciate it! I’ve has really good luck with them holding up until I come across the dreaded Philips self tapping screw. May God have no mercy on those dastardly fasteners
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I have both. I will say its nice to hand the supertool to someone and say 'you'll find X in there' and they can just find a tool without instruction. The surge isn't complicated but even though all the tools on the supertool are internal it means they're also easy to find.
Never thought about it like that! But for sure the ST300 is a more straightforward tool and less intimidating overall for those surprise user
If you have trouble finding a tool in the surge I don't think you should be carrying around sharp things, your mind certainly isn't sharp.
veri good comparison
Thanks
Bought a surge after my ST300 fell in half after not even a year of mediocre use. Won’t settle for anything else unless it’s a MUT 😜
The MUT is definitely a heavy duty tool no doubt!
I'm a scissors guy.... So its the surge for me.... Just bought it 2 months ago. After years of carrying swisschamp
Slight step down from the 91mm scissors but major plier upgrade!
@@EngineersPerspective701 agree
@@EngineersPerspective701 and major step up in term of weight... Hahaha
Can anybody tell me what that special bit kit that he has for the supertool?
The words to search are “Leatherman bit adapter”
This link should take you there too. www.leatherman.com/removable-bit-driver-931012.html?gclid=EAIaIQobChMIrfb1psTK8QIVhG1vBB0O5wSkEAQYASABEgKwd_D_BwE
@@EngineersPerspective701 thank you!
Good comparison video.
I carry the Supertool 300 with a first gen universal tool adapter to use 1/4" bits and drivers. It's awesome. I'd carry a surge if it wasn't for leathermans proprietary flat bit exchanger and the wasted space the Scissors occupy. Scissors in a multi tool- For when you need to stop what you are doing and start scrapbooking! I heard Leatherman was coming out with a new larger framed tool with a complete set of knitting needles. Lol
The 1/4” driver adapter is awesome. Adds a lot of extra capability.
Scissors cut in ways a knife can't and I use them a lot. Not a wasted space.
You can get after market saws that fit the bosh t shank. That will be even longer than the super tool and will fit in the pouch also.
Definitely a major advantage if that’s a tool you’d use no doubt! There are some amazing saw blades out there and the extra reach really adds capability. I personally don’t use the saws much at all so it’s not something I highlighted but should have for others
Nice fidget tool
Try the free!
What's the hook on the medium flat tip?
Mmm 🤔, I’m not 100% sure what you’re referring to? The lanyard ring on the Supertool?
@@EngineersPerspective701 Someone already told me that the little hook is so you can put your fingernail to pull the flat tip out. Just about all the bits have the hook. On the super tool 200 it has a notch. I shouldn't have said medium tip, since it is on just about all the tips.
@@garyesada5766 Ah, that little lifter tab. Yeah every tool has it on all leathermans pretty much. Exceptions would be the can opener and blades/saw/file, maybe a few others.
Where can I buy the bit for the 300
Appreciate the view! Look up “Leatherman bit adapter” or use the below link.
www.leatherman.com/removable-bit-driver-931012.html?gclid=EAIaIQobChMIrfb1psTK8QIVhG1vBB0O5wSkEAQYASABEgKwd_D_BwE
@@EngineersPerspective701 thank you so much
@@jrc202 no sweat, enjoy!
Either way people in the old days wish they had these tools.
All they had closely was a SAK and that was like the basic one lol
Hard to imagine when we’re so spoiled these days!
@@EngineersPerspective701 right!!
I couldn't imagine early 1900s all the first real pocket tools and knives were coming out between case knives,victorinox few others I can't think of atm
@@devatwell334 It's pretty crazy and even consider the full size tools. Channellocks were invented in 1930 or something. It just boggles my mind how people got anything done without these absolute staple tools!
@@EngineersPerspective701 haha they make us look like pu**ies really
Prefer the Super tool less moving parts less likely chance of a malfunction. Prefer the ST300s bit driver as well over the Surge.
ST300 is a tried, true and robust as hell! For me the philips is also a deciding factor
@@EngineersPerspective701 Don't get me wrong the Surge is a better stand alone tool. With the one handed blades, scissors, and the ability to exchange the saw, and file. The thing is us multitool enthusiasts carry more than one multitool. A compact with a Super tool 300 is perfect.
Throw in a folding knife and you got everything you need, and nothing you don't.
Both of them have Lanyard hole
Yes, thank you! I forget about that sneaky little guy on the Surge/Wave
Ok so here's my take on the debate. Really, there is no world where a ST300 is beating the Surge if you're carrying the MT as a one-tool contained system. The ST300 excels in some scenarios, but the Surge can handle those adequately; however the Surge can do some things the ST300 simply can't (like replace a 1h opening knife operable with gloves on).
It truly pains me to say because I absolutely love the Bond/Rebar/ST line, but let's be honest here.. if the debate is over an MT for the sake of having an MT then just buy a Surge. Or buy a Supertool first and then a Surge 6 months later so you can glove box the ST300 and never use it again lol.
That being said, in my opinion, as soon as you start adding other tools and your MT becomes *part of* a multiple item system, the playing field evens very quickly between them and I imagine the decision becomes highly scenario-specific.
From my experience, millwrights, HVAC, engineers, etc. gonna go with Surge every time. Because things like bit exchangers and diamond files give you the finesse you need for highly technical work.
I work on a drinking water utility - there's no finesse and everything is big. I need a chunky file for knocking burrs off and scraping old greasy felt gaskets apart, big screwdriver for doing big screwdriver stuff, a way to manipulate heavy gauge tracer wire.. and the tool has to be something I can drop in the mud, pick up, hose out, and not worry about after. ST300 wins for me because I have a Milwaukee fastback and 10in channel locks beside it, and a truck full of tools beside that. It fits a niche in my kit that I don't believe a Surge would.
That being said, back when I worked maintenance at a hockey arena, I shelfed the Supertool on my first day and carried a Wave (baby Surge) the entire time. If I could have afforded a Surge at the time it would have been a no-brainer.. because the need for that one-tool option was very present and you can't deny the utility of an onboard bit exchanger and diamond file working inside a facility like that.
Been like a year since I posted here, but there's my thought on that! Cheers brother.
Very well said brother! Appreciate you taking the time to put it into words!
I totally agree with what you’ve said. I’ve moved away from the Surge when I got fed up with the drivers. But moved back when I was doing more electrical type work. And then moved to the charge in basic everyday edc item.
the surge is chunky and capable, but i like the big swisstool x more, way better craftsmanship (fit and finish, walk and talk are in its own league)
Something that’s really surprised me is the walk and talk of the spirit x. I like it but at the same time there is a huge loss of fluidity in opening the tool compared to the wave or surge. Not sure I actually prefer it.
@@EngineersPerspective701 cant speak for the new oho swisstools (i have a soldier that is oho and its blade opening is awful)but i dont care for that because not street legal in germany and i am a left handed freak.
Supertool 300 👍😎🇺🇲🇺🇲🇺🇲🇺🇲
It’s a beast!
So biyest towards the supertool
I prefer the surge overall
THE MAIN DIFFERENCE IS THE $PRICE$ , I PREFER
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Idk if I’d say main difference but it’s definitely notable. Everyone has different things they focus on!
I like the Leatherman super tool 300 I have one the biggest problem I have with it is it's hard to tune to tighten when it's loose but I like it the main reason I like it it doesn't have scissors I would have bought a surge but my problem with the surge is the damn scissors I think scissors are the most useless thing to put in a working man's tool I understand you can modify them but it seems to me you should be able to buy one that doesn't have the scissors in it they should have a model that doesn't have the damn scissors they are useless I don't know anybody and I know a lot of people with leathermans and multi tools of different types I don't know any of these people that have found any use for them scissors they are 90% useless they just take space I think the surge is a far better tool as far as the way is made over the super tool 300 but the damn scissors they need to do away with the scissors they're useless for a working man or make one that doesn't have them put something else in there that's more useful
I believe genuine electrician's shears can be an awesome tool but unfortunately these do fall a long way off from what I would normally use. They're just not robust enough to be the right tool when I want a pair of shears. I do use the scissors and find them useful but not a ton or for critical things. Mostly where they come in handy is when I carried it daily for work I ended up having it on all day so it was nice when I was with the family to cut open packages or strings on clothes, paper, etc.
Try replacing the word "scissors" with some punctuation.
Agreed. I carried a Swiss army knife all through the 80's. Not once did I ever need to use a pair of scissors on a job site or in the woods! I've never needed scissors at home! Always used clippers for my hair, and if I needed something cut, I use a blade. I think most of these yt multi tool channel guys don't ever use their tools for anything but videos and they think scissors are some kind of manly tool you can't live without. Just look how shiny and new their tools are. My Leatherman looks like it's been drug down the highway and beat with a hammer. Because it has.
Has the scale right there but never gives the weight, what an amateur.
Appears your fingers work, look it up yourself
If these two are the biggest and baddest why does the charge g10 and charge plus cost almost 200 bucks
That is a very good question! Best guess is that stamping scales in just that inexpensive vs. milling the scales
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ST300 is a beast!