Thanks for the peek at the internals. And for the balanced take. Yes, it's expensive, but everyone else's videos on this knife are basically histrionic screeching.
Thanks for the video. Some one gave me a Benchmade Narrows because he thought it was defective. This video, help me a) take it apart, b) realize that it wasn't defective and c) why it costs what it costs. I wouldn't have been able to put it back together without this. While I agree it is pricey, the bearings are insane and the materials topnotch.
Thank you for the deep dive on this one. Its such a neat knife. Hopefully they put some discounts on it in the future. Around 250-350 would be much more interesting
Thanks for the great video. I got to check one out the other day. You broke it down for us really well I’ve seen the price come down to $420 so far I still think it needs to drop another hundred.
A site called GovX has it for $434.98. That was too much for me. But, Blade HQ has a military discount for $406. I didn’t want to pay over $400. Did it anyway.
I will probably end up getting one, but I wish they would have done something nicer for the pocket clip. It's a great functional clip for the Bugout and even other models but I would prefer something more premium for this knife. Great job on the video, very helpful.
I didn’t know about this knife until a local shop salesman pointed it out to me (because of the thinness and the cost). In hand it felt too thin. My impression of this knife is benchmade showing off its engineering, in a product that might be collectible in the future. I appreciate your review because you take it apart. It comes apart very easily compared to other benchmades, only 3 screws! Also, I was super interested to see this new axis lock. One spring in full view seems pretty good compared to 2 hidden springs. I wonder if we will see this version in upcoming products?
A fellow ul backpacker and knifer. Instantly subbed. It's funny to me how insubstantial knives are to ul backpacking. Most people hear backpacking and they start thinking a crk green beret is small.
Hey I wanted to inform you that disassembly no longer voids the warranty. As per Benchmade policy (and also multiple of their customer service reps) you can disassemble the knife fully as many times as you want. However if you are unable to reassemble it, you must ship it to them and then the warranty is voided. However with a $20 fee the knife is reassembled and the warranty is REINSTATED!
I almost feel you could have those two pieces of spring that tension the mechanism against the scale, pop out of the scale thus stopping the lock from staying locked when deployed. The recesses in the titanium don't seem to be deep enough to stop that from being a thing that could happen. Maybe it's fine though idk
I doubt that it's a significant issue, but I see your point, there's no retention for that essential component of the lock (not to mention it looks like it could snap if you sneezed on it)
It’s super solid . Carbon fiber is super solid too but can splinter when damaged but it’s strong stuff . More than needed which is always good on both cases
Hi, Can you please measure the bearing OD, ID and thickness? I'd like to replace mines with thick washers but I don't know the correct size. Thanks in advance
Why not ceramic bearings? Steel will rust. So I’d have to tac on another $15-$20 for skiffs on top of the ridiculous $530! Roughly $600 after tax & everything. No thanks! That’s Sebenza territory. Great video
Plus they use an odd sized pivot, bearing ball, and diameter so Skiff doesn't even have bearings that fit this currently. What a pain in the ass, hard pass for me on this one!
If it was smaller yes. But I like a smaller profile knife for my ultralight kit. This is a experiment in engineering. They type that moves innovation forward. Guys don’t have to like the price but there are reasons for it.
benchmade doesn't even come close to chris reeve, especially not with their constant fit'n'finish issues. cr is a whole different league, it's like comparing a volkswagen with a mercedes.
Very cool. I have been defending CRK prices for years, the fact they use S35 blah blah. People have always complained about American made knife prices, stuff just costs more to produce here. Oregon also has very strong factory unions and the highest factory wages in the country.
That's because the cost of living is sky high in Oregon. What good are higher wages when everything costs more? Also 52% of the world's titanium comes from CHINA. I've done the labor union schtick, the bureaucracy is terrible. Plus they drive up prices, because the company has to pay for that bureaucracy.
@@alpine1600sThere s a lot of people with mixed opinions on the unions . I saw it all my life as one of the top uaw guys lived on my street . All the neighbors were union reps . He bought all kinds of insane things too , cars , houses , pools . We all went to school together and it was a GM town ( Lordstown , Ohio ) . I worked there after college and the u ion officials all had a chip on their shoulder like GM was the enemy whilst all kinds , and im talking all kinds of bullshit was going in that shouldn’t be . Now they’re closed so ..
I don’t know, in this days Chinese nobody charges 300$ or so for their products. So USA made company with history, with service. With recent $ de value, 500 seems reasonable actually. 😅
@@jdemeter4357 Oh shit mb I'm dumb, I always mix "flat head screws" with slotted screws because of well... "flat head screwdrivers" :DD Such contradiction doesn't exist in my native language.
@@tgonzalez1983 who cares where it comes from when the quality and materials are there . Wi , reate , and Maxace all have better quality and more work than 90+% of benchmade s . Better grinds also .
@@hereinmissoula11you should care. China is an enemy of the west. The more they control supply chains, the worse off the west is in a future conflict. We saw what supply chain disruptions looked like during covid. There’s also a myriad of other reasons why you should support domestic manufacturing. If you can afford it, you absolutely should support goods made in friendly nations. Not all goods you have a choice, but with knives you do have a choice.
Garbage heat treat and outrageous price. Very low value marked up too high. Low performance m390/20cv is not worth that much money. Its illegal to void warranty by taking anything apart. Look it up. They might use it as a deterrent but they wouldnt win in court. Even the anthem was over priced and had terrible heat treated 20cv/m390.
Price is subjective as I’m sure many will buy it. I do agree it’s high compared to what is out there that’s USA made. Look at recent HT tests. Benchmade has listened or was pressured by the community to do better heat treat and they have. As far as the warranty I’ve not heard of them ever refusing someone due to disassembly and I don’t think you’re correct on the winning in court bit. You just sound salty.
Oh we got a benchmade crybaby! Probably a safe queen scum bag the way he complains about price while having thousands of dollars worth of knives sitting in a box!
"Provisions that tie warranty coverage to the use of particular products or services harm both consumers who pay more for them as well as the small businesses who offer competing products and services," Thomas B. Pahl, acting director of the FTC's Bureau of Consumer Protection, said in a statement released Tuesday. Specifically, the agency explained, those provisions violate the 1975 Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act, which bars companies from conditioning their warranties on demands that consumers use certain articles or services in connection with the original product. You are right it is against the law for benchmade to say if anyone but them services the knife that it voids the warranty.
Thanks for the peek at the internals. And for the balanced take. Yes, it's expensive, but everyone else's videos on this knife are basically histrionic screeching.
Thanks for the video. Some one gave me a Benchmade Narrows because he thought it was defective. This video, help me a) take it apart, b) realize that it wasn't defective and c) why it costs what it costs. I wouldn't have been able to put it back together without this. While I agree it is pricey, the bearings are insane and the materials topnotch.
Thank you for the deep dive on this one. Its such a neat knife. Hopefully they put some discounts on it in the future. Around 250-350 would be much more interesting
Lets face it there is no way this knife should be priced at 522.00 ;that price is just insane....
Thanks for the great video. I got to check one out the other day. You broke it down for us really well I’ve seen the price come down to $420 so far I still think it needs to drop another hundred.
$420? What site? 😂
A site called GovX has it for $434.98. That was too much for me. But, Blade HQ has a military discount for $406. I didn’t want to pay over $400. Did it anyway.
@@max238maxwell3 wow ty bud!
are you at all concerned about the ss bearings directly rolling on the titanium handles?
I will probably end up getting one, but I wish they would have done something nicer for the pocket clip. It's a great functional clip for the Bugout and even other models but I would prefer something more premium for this knife. Great job on the video, very helpful.
I was looking at these at EKnives and I bought a tactile turn maverick in ti and saved hundreds by using my brain!
I think the knife is a bit too thin, and the price is way too thick.
I didn’t know about this knife until a local shop salesman pointed it out to me (because of the thinness and the cost). In hand it felt too thin. My impression of this knife is benchmade showing off its engineering, in a product that might be collectible in the future. I appreciate your review because you take it apart. It comes apart very easily compared to other benchmades, only 3 screws! Also, I was super interested to see this new axis lock. One spring in full view seems pretty good compared to 2 hidden springs. I wonder if we will see this version in upcoming products?
A fellow ul backpacker and knifer. Instantly subbed. It's funny to me how insubstantial knives are to ul backpacking. Most people hear backpacking and they start thinking a crk green beret is small.
Hey I wanted to inform you that disassembly no longer voids the warranty. As per Benchmade policy (and also multiple of their customer service reps) you can disassemble the knife fully as many times as you want. However if you are unable to reassemble it, you must ship it to them and then the warranty is voided. However with a $20 fee the knife is reassembled and the warranty is REINSTATED!
I almost feel you could have those two pieces of spring that tension the mechanism against the scale, pop out of the scale thus stopping the lock from staying locked when deployed. The recesses in the titanium don't seem to be deep enough to stop that from being a thing that could happen. Maybe it's fine though idk
I doubt that it's a significant issue, but I see your point, there's no retention for that essential component of the lock (not to mention it looks like it could snap if you sneezed on it)
Thanks for the look
I want the Anthem back. I'll probably buy this too.
I'd like to see other Benchmades use bearings.
Thank you for your video. Passing on this one though.
The only thing thinner than a Narrows is your wallet after you buy one
what do you prefer, the narrows in that video or the custom bugout with damasteel? if you had to pick one...
Titanium is really hard to break.
If you don’t believe me. Try to break the bacon clip on the Boker Kalashnikov .
It’s super solid . Carbon fiber is super solid too but can splinter when damaged but it’s strong stuff . More than needed which is always good on both cases
Excellent video!
Nick Shabazz needs to watch this
$400+ and they can't use the much improved Anthem axis spring setup? Hard pass.
520*
@@shaanpatel1011 almost 600 after tax
Make/save more money. Problem solved.
Hi,
Can you please measure the bearing OD, ID and thickness? I'd like to replace mines with thick washers but I don't know the correct size. Thanks in advance
Why not ceramic bearings? Steel will rust. So I’d have to tac on another $15-$20 for skiffs on top of the ridiculous $530! Roughly $600 after tax & everything. No thanks! That’s Sebenza territory. Great video
Plus they use an odd sized pivot, bearing ball, and diameter so Skiff doesn't even have bearings that fit this currently. What a pain in the ass, hard pass for me on this one!
The bearings ride on the naked titanium? No steel race? 🤔😬
Hi. The Narrows, 522.00. The small Sebenza, the Hinderer same price or less. The Narrows, Nope!
my only gripe is whenever Benchmade does a bear style knife, they use an unconventional size cage and ball, no one makes an aftermarket for them.
2023 knife of the year. I love mine
Would you take this over a chris reeves? Honest opinion.
If it was smaller yes. But I like a smaller profile knife for my ultralight kit. This is a experiment in engineering. They type that moves innovation forward. Guys don’t have to like the price but there are reasons for it.
@Shortspear Outdoors (PM2OG) nice I got the 748 on pre order. Looks killer!!!
benchmade doesn't even come close to chris reeve, especially not with their constant fit'n'finish issues.
cr is a whole different league, it's like comparing a volkswagen with a mercedes.
I canceled my order for the narrows and got a sebenza 31 magnacut
Very cool. I have been defending CRK prices for years, the fact they use S35 blah blah. People have always complained about American made knife prices, stuff just costs more to produce here. Oregon also has very strong factory unions and the highest factory wages in the country.
That's because the cost of living is sky high in Oregon. What good are higher wages when everything costs more? Also 52% of the world's titanium comes from CHINA. I've done the labor union schtick, the bureaucracy is terrible. Plus they drive up prices, because the company has to pay for that bureaucracy.
@@alpine1600sThere s a lot of people with mixed opinions on the unions . I saw it all my life as one of the top uaw guys lived on my street . All the neighbors were union reps . He bought all kinds of insane things too , cars , houses , pools . We all went to school together and it was a GM town ( Lordstown , Ohio ) . I worked there after college and the u ion officials all had a chip on their shoulder like GM was the enemy whilst all kinds , and im talking all kinds of bullshit was going in that shouldn’t be . Now they’re closed so ..
I don’t know, in this days Chinese nobody charges 300$ or so for their products. So USA made company with history, with service. With recent $ de value, 500 seems reasonable actually. 😅
you sure denialed that one 🤣
@@edrader746 lol and yet you won’t find me buying this one soon.😂
Just saw the preorder price 522.00, should have free shipping 😂😂😂😮
Should come with a free bugout for the price lmao
@@leksasdf keep the flimsy plastic bugout. Worse most expensive crap released .
Not worth that much money
Sick
I cant help but laugh when i think about this knife lol just goofieness all around
9:58 did you just kiss the knife?
Great video, even if it is for one of the most egregiously overpriced knives I've ever seen.
💰🤑💰
$9.99 Bugout Clip on a $500 plus knife!!!! Slap in the face to the knife community!!
All the haters need to ask mom for more money in their allowance 😂
It's a shame that they didn't put flat-head screws in the pocket clip, why, whyyyyyyyy, wwwhhhyyyyyyy !!!!!
(Just a thought)
Why?
@@leksasdf they made a ooops ?
@@jdemeter4357 I mean why on earth would anyone want a flathead?
@@leksasdf to get that smooth sensation.
@@jdemeter4357 Oh shit mb I'm dumb, I always mix "flat head screws" with slotted screws because of well... "flat head screwdrivers" :DD Such contradiction doesn't exist in my native language.
Absolutely nothing pricing this above 250-300. Benchmade ripping people off . My Maxace is nicer and has more work for half the price .
Maxace is a Chinese manufacturer. At least compare this to another American made offering. I agree it’s overpriced tho
Tactile Knife Co. Maverick. There’s a good comparison - the titanium variant costs $349. Benchmade’s pricing has become insulting at this point.
@@tgonzalez1983 who cares where it comes from when the quality and materials are there . Wi , reate , and Maxace all have better quality and more work than 90+% of benchmade s . Better grinds also .
@@tgonzalez1983 reate and we are chinese and don't have the BM QC issues
@@hereinmissoula11you should care. China is an enemy of the west. The more they control supply chains, the worse off the west is in a future conflict. We saw what supply chain disruptions looked like during covid. There’s also a myriad of other reasons why you should support domestic manufacturing. If you can afford it, you absolutely should support goods made in friendly nations. Not all goods you have a choice, but with knives you do have a choice.
It's not too thin, but it is WAY overpriced. Definitely NOT worth $522!
522.00, Really?? Give me a break. See ya.
Benchmade is insane. They've gone totally bat sh*t crazy.
You lost your brains to pay $500 for this
it should be compared to TRM Atom
I love knives but this one so so over priced shame on u benchmade
Overpriced and needs a hole instead of studs. Blade hole cuts weight and keeps it thinner, so if the point is lightweight studs make no sense.
Garbage heat treat and outrageous price. Very low value marked up too high. Low performance m390/20cv is not worth that much money.
Its illegal to void warranty by taking anything apart. Look it up. They might use it as a deterrent but they wouldnt win in court.
Even the anthem was over priced and had terrible heat treated 20cv/m390.
Price is subjective as I’m sure many will buy it. I do agree it’s high compared to what is out there that’s USA made. Look at recent HT tests. Benchmade has listened or was pressured by the community to do better heat treat and they have. As far as the warranty I’ve not heard of them ever refusing someone due to disassembly and I don’t think you’re correct on the winning in court bit. You just sound salty.
Oh we got a benchmade crybaby! Probably a safe queen scum bag the way he complains about price while having thousands of dollars worth of knives sitting in a box!
@@shortspear price is not subjective. I dont think they improved anything. Link the tests you refer too. Cause I haven't seen any improvement.
"Provisions that tie warranty coverage to the use of particular products or services harm both consumers who pay more for them as well as the small businesses who offer competing products and services," Thomas B. Pahl, acting director of the FTC's Bureau of Consumer Protection, said in a statement released Tuesday.
Specifically, the agency explained, those provisions violate the 1975 Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act, which bars companies from conditioning their warranties on demands that consumers use certain articles or services in connection with the original product.
You are right it is against the law for benchmade to say if anyone but them services the knife that it voids the warranty.
Unless your from Canada 😜 hahah. They send me the parts and tell. Me to do it myself hahahaha
"is it too thin", its overpriced.
Benchmade 👎
Saw it, handled it, used it.
At $522.00... Oh Hell no Benchmade, ... get real.
Overpriced garbage.