@@sezerkaratepe8262 And in the story out of puff from the railway series book Henry and the Express there are two illustrations where Henry has blood-shot eyes
Mate, the fish blocked his water intake to his boiler, he wasn’t going to burst out of bloating, he was gonna flipping explode from steam pressure and lack of water
@@ToshimanenJamir what? He said he was bloated from water or something similar to that when it was a fish blocking his pipe, I don’t understand your reply
Thank god you didn't go the shed 17 route. However, here are a couple of things to note. (and yes, ik this is for fun, I'm just saying this to get some facts straight) One: There are no eyes present in the windows of any locomotive. The ones who come close are the culdee fell engines, which have faces on the back of their cabs. How Thomas looked back can be explained by his face [which is on his smokebox door] swinging open to look back. The model series cannot show that due to limitations/scarring the audience. However, even then, Thomas can rely on his crew as well. Two: Locomotives in general can't grab things with their buffers. I think you got them mixed up with their couplers. Even then, do not trust early Thomas UA-camrs, as that stuff is fanmade, and isn't really canon. They use the buffers as arms because it's funny and stuff like that. Three: Tenders are *VITAL* , for certain locomotives. Engines like Thomas and Percy don't need the tenders, because they were built as tank engines that can't go long distances, while larger engines like Murdoch and Gordon need the tenders to not only go the distance but to also store more coal and water than the tank engines. If they were for cosmetic reasons, then why do larger engines have them around at all times, and without the tenders, they can't go anywhere. [As shown in Love me tender] Four: Henry in his old shape had plenty of coal, it was the fact that his firebox was small and couldn't create enough steam, due to the current coal supply. With Welsh Coal, he could steam better until the flying kipper incident, and after that, he was rebuilt. Five: The reason why Thomas nearly blows up is because there are fish in the water in Thomas' tanks blocking the proper systems to help feed water into his boiler. He doesn't feel bloated or anything, even with plenty of water in the tanks, if the injector fails, the engine has no way of getting water. He didn't have too much water. Six: "Only when their engines are removed." I'm sorry, *what.* That's not how it works. A locomotive dies in one of two ways. Either they are damaged so heavily in accidents that they are killed instantly [ex, boiler explosion] or when they are cut apart and scrapped. Every last piece must be scrapped. Also if the faces *are* mechanical as you say, then engines can't die, as their faces might be transferred over to a different engine once their body is scrapped. A steam locomotive is technically an steam engine on wheels. It might work for diesels, but steam engines are diffrent. Seven: Rev. W. Awdry was a priest, yes, but he also grew up around railways, and volunteered at a certain narrow-gauge railway in Wales. He would often hear the engines at work, saying that their puffing and chuffing reminded him a lot of people having conversations with each other. The engine's minds and bodies are one and the same. Eight: yes, Tugs is Thomas' sister show, and yes it uses the same concepts of faces. That doesn't mean that it operates on the same standards are it. Tugs were more complex than Thomas, being run by a few members of the Thomas crew before season three aired. Tugboats have boilers in them to be operated and all that fancy stuff. Plus, Tugs only lasted a whole season, before it got canned, so we don't know the full extent of it anyway. Even then, they are one and the same, as how else do you think they can move without a crew looking after them? They have full control of their bodies, and their minds think alike. nine: The later seasons of the series had bad writing, due to showwriters being not knowledgeable on railway practices, and many fans had a discourse over there. An engine's desire has nothing to do with how they operate. They *need* a crew to keep them functioning at all times. As for the personalities being switched, again. Bad. Writing. Again, I know this video was for fun, but I just wanted to let you know of a few things that should really be said and that you might want to recheck the facts. This theory needs some work, but it's a good start.
Add on to six: if you’re saying that engine faces can be transferred to other engines, then why did Oliver and the Stepney get rescued by Donald and rusty from the scrap yard if that was the case, what I’m thinking is, that while there faces are mechanical, there eyes aren’t, which leads me to assume the eyes contain their souls, and no matter if you put their faces on another engine, they wouldn’t work because their souls would still be within the body that was about to be scraped.
In the railway series, it's proven that the engine's faces are the smoke box doors. And they have blood in the faces. In my opinion, the faces are biological and they're on the smoke box.And the smoke box can be removed and the faces can be pulled to open the smoke box doors
They are figurative 0:29, to answer all your questions… they are merely machines where the people have given them personality, the illustrations include faces merely to convey their emotions. The stories are embellishments, the IOS books are the “in-universe explanation”
14:07 I had that theory when I was 6 years old every time I watched TATMR, because I wanted to explain why the drivers don't stop the engines from doing bad things.
Im confused, duke survives seemingly without oxygen under a landslide, salty survives underwater, but the engine that fell into the water in duncan gets spooked seemingly died, so what is the deal with oxygen?
Thomas is supposed to be incredibly meta. Basically it’s our world and history but there is an extra land mass in Britain, and vehicles can talk. All forms of media including RWS are interpretations of what happen, (awdry visits Sodor in-universe) so the show in-universe is Britt alcroft find out the RWS on the bluebell, gained the rights, made the pilot, then the show aired on ITV.
I've said this a million times in a million different places, but the faces are just a metaphor. Thomas is simply the extension of the intrinsic feeling many train crews had that their engines were alive in one way or another. Members of the same class could perform differently, as though they had personalities. Some days they were easy going, and some days you had to fight them. Above all, just standing next to a fired steam locomotive invokes the same awe as being in the presence of a mighty animal with all the sounds, motion and smells. They just talk and have faces in Thomas to better illustrate what they're thinking and so they can imprint on readers better.
They likely had characters share face masks to reduce the amount of face masks to keep track of/used. If two characters with similar faces need to make similar expressions
To counteract your point about the faces, characters blush, which implies blood flow to the cheeks. There was also the episode where James was stung on the nose and it became swollen, evidence of tissue inflammation. Not to mention the episode where Henry has a cold, and his face clearly shows him sniffling, indicating that his nostrils can still breathe. All three of these pieces of evidence come from Model Series episodes, and suggest that the faces are organic in nature
I personally feel like Magic Railroad makes the most sense for the whole faces thing on trains, but thats mostly because of all the paranormal happenings that have occurred both in the show as well as newer installations of the Thomas series of movies and TV series that makes it believable
Even though nobody seems to have asked, im going to explain the senses of what we call 'non-faceless vehicles', or to be more specific, the engines. 1. Hearing is diferent between steamies and diesels. Diesels hear through the grates on their sides, which let sound in to echo around in their interior cavities, allowing them to hear. Steamies use their smokeboxes to hear, with sounds coming in through their funnels/smokestacks/chimneys, and then echoing around in their smokeboxes. 2. Touch is felt through the metal on their entire extirior, but mostly they use their buffers, as Steaming_Along stated 3. Smell is relatively simple, being as engines clearly have noses on their faces 4. Sight was explained by Steaming_Along already, so I don't think I need to reiterate 5. Taste also seems to be in the face area, even to the engines tend to 'ingest' fuel through their fireboxes. I credit my knowledge of the sense of hearing to Victor Tanzig, go check out his youtube channel and if you like his work, drop a subscribe while you're there. If you read this far, thanks!
00:09:36, the image of the black-faced scrapyard engine already proves part of your idea their faces are removable, its sort of like a mask. They can get painted over.
I'm sorry but I don't agree with you. Are you sure it's not just dust, soot, and rust covering the face. Because just being painted on and are like masks makes no sense to me or others who know that's not true.
That does raise a huge question during one of the mid model series where Diesel gets his engine replaced after giving Emily a hard time about being a record holder. He clearly had his engine removed... Which implies that he would have died? Love these anatomy theories
The personality changes being an act might actually be the canon answer. Correct me if I'm wrong, but in The Railway Series books, the Thomas and Friends show actually exists in universe, and it was made to retell the stories of the engines in the book
Personally, I don’t really care about the nitty-gritty details like this I just need to know how the face gets there and now I know the answer. I can sleep easily.
6:17 theory on this stage, When the engine is puffing with steam, the drivers put coal, but it means more steam, more steam equals more blood but more blood means you have too much, then the funnels are there to get the excess steam out. In cgi Thomas, when they whistle, they close their eyes, this might be because they are forcing more excess steam out of their body, but forcing more steam out of their body isn't unhealthy, since they blow their whistles while puffing or even standby in a station, They are still burning coal which leads to more steam so this isn't a problem. That concludes this theory.
I always liked the idea that the engines speak telepathically. Thats why (back when the series used actual model trains) their mouths don't move when they talk.
I think the Male Vs. Female gender debate, it has to come down to voice and voice mannerisms. Not to forget: I believe that the illusive 'Gold dust" helps bring these engines to life. Where do these machines gain consciousness from? Magic. (Can't you tell I love TATMR?) How to engines drive? Simple. It's like learning to walk. The drivers are there just to monitor and gauge the engine. There are more specifics but I'm not going to delve into those for the sake of my time.
as a child, I came to the conclusion that the engines can move on their own, but they cant stop on their own, witch is why they keep getting into trouble on their own. (there's probably a lot of evidence that disproves that theory tho)
I have actually created my own idea of how the engine's sentience work (inspired by MasteroftheLemons). It's that the faces *are* physical, but they are manifestations of the engine. As engines in real life are often referred to as "living and breathing", then it makes sense that the engine itself is alive, but it communicates/interacts with the rest of the world through a face. This idea resolves issues with some RWS only characters. The Culdee Fell engines have 2 faces, one on each end. However, i believe that this is a factor exclusive to specific engines. It is 2 faces, but only 1 "soul". The engine would change which face it is using, with only one being visible at a time. This also apply's to Toby, Daisy, BoCo, Bear, D199, D261, and every other engine with 2 cabs. They are illustrated with their faces on the other end in the books sometimes, such as in Toby's Megatrain. This only applies to mountain engines and engines with two cabs. In cases like Mighty-Mac, it is two "souls" in one body, very much the equivalent of conjoined twins. Additionally, the engines can "remove" their face of they so choose. This allows crews to do things such as clean out the smokebox. The engines would also "lose" their face when they sleep. The engines are also capable of falling into hibernation of sorts. When Duke is left in his shed, he says he will "go to sleep to pass the time." Then when Duke is found, he wakes up and is just as he is when he was put in the sheds 20 years ago. I interpret this as an engine preserving its soul over long periods of time. This would also be a case when engines are left in scrapyards. So yea, this is my take on how the engines are sentient. Feel free to use this idea or build apon it or whatever, i don't care.
I like this idea a lot. It feels the "cleanest" as far as explanations go. The disappearing face thing is a bit weird, but there's always one issue with any explanation, isn't there?
I had a random thought on the drivers debacle. what if, since the engines in this headcanon have noncorporeal minds, the drivers are a manifestation of that mind the same way the engines personality is, meaning the physical engines are just avatar style vessels, perhaps they are tied to their drivers through a psychic link and when their personality changes, new drivers are manifested to match what the mind is trying to create? either way I love metaphysics and using it to get far too crazy in my childhood shows is always a fun trip.
The trains are just normal trains, they’ve been in accidents, they have certain mechanical quirks, but at the end of the day they are just machines. However, the people of Sodor love these machines and talk about them as if they are people. The Reverend’s stories are reinterpretations of “real” events, but giving the trains faces in order to convince the audience of what he has believed his whole life… trains DO talk. Go to any preserved line with and active steam engine, and you’ll hear her whole life story! Awdry didn’t have some big explanation for how the trains were alive, because in his mind, they always have been!
Some interesting ideas and well thought out info, I like this, thank you for sharing! And this is the first time I've heard the American voice over on the original episodes, and it's scary having only known the British versions. Not in a bad way! XD
I mostly just say everything is a big metaphor and leave it at that... To answer the question about if the engines are mechanical or organic is like trying to solve FNAF lore, it's a waste of time.
@@happyburger23 as seen at 9:32, their faces are made of metal. Otherwise they wouldn’t be able to rust. Metal does turn red when it gets hot so blood is not required for blushing
8:13 I kinda have a theory to this So, Gordon and Spencer are cousins, right? (Correct me if I'm wrong) and they were built by the same person, right? (Also correct me) so my theory is that trains are made via the person who's designing it. So if ALCo made locomotives, then those locos are related, becaus they were made by the same thing.
The Engines faces are biological, the face swap that you mentioned earlier were goofs in the production, and the engines that talk without faces were also little goofs. And in the railway series lore, the faces are biological and disappear when they die, they are not removed. Edit: "Thomas looked back" he doesn't look through his windows, that was also a goof on the writer's part.
I like to think that their faces are made of rubber, and the mechanics of their faces are similar to animatronics. That is why their faces can be mechanical and bend so naturally at the same time.
Tenders are not part of engines biologically, or engineering-wise. Tender Engines store Fuel(Coal, Wood, Oil...etc.) and Water in the tenders. They can work without tenders, albeit for a limited time and with difficulity. The Aurora from Metro Exodus is a Kolomna Locomotive Works P38 locomotive with several modifications in the post apocalyptic landscape. The P38 was a Tender Engine, but the Aurora is modified to be a quasi-tank engine, using external storage for water, and internal storage for coal. This gives it some range, but it becomes an issue in the game, that this is far from being enough. D51 Class "Hiro" also first steams without his tender in his movie, which confirms that they don't need their tenders biologically.
I think that when you light the fire box, the face just kind of "appears" so then when they scrap the engine, they let the fire out and wait till the face disappears.
Funny, I thought they were all magical machines. Machines that can think and feel so long as someone believes in them (from Thomas and the Magic Railroad). But anatomically, I think it's their furnace that does most of their biological functions of breathing and eating while their funnels are exhaling. Steam I think is both an energy source as well as a waste product. But even better... What if the engines worked on a simpler body plan like that of insects?
In my headcanon Skarloey and Rheneas's childish episodes were misinformation from Sir Handel given to the new writers when they were visiting the island. In reality those episode happened with Ivo Hugh, Smudger and Fred.
So now we have a Ship of Theseus issue. How much can you replace on a locomotive before it gets a new personality? Because locomotives regularly have parts replaced. Even things as integral as frames or boilers can be replaced. That's like getting a new torso.
Maybe they are "Sandworms" from Herbert's "Dune" novels wearing latex rubber masks since by Cube Square megafauna on terrestrial land would sink into topsoil.
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It’s easy there smoke box doors are the only thing alive there is no two Henry’s they just got a new body
@@sezerkaratepe8262 And in the story out of puff from the railway series book Henry and the Express there are two illustrations where Henry has blood-shot eyes
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Mate, the fish blocked his water intake to his boiler, he wasn’t going to burst out of bloating, he was gonna flipping explode from steam pressure and lack of water
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@@ToshimanenJamir what? He said he was bloated from water or something similar to that when it was a fish blocking his pipe, I don’t understand your reply
@@Thesuperdave894Because da hole in bucket obviously
Thomas looked back.
Thomas: **Opens his firebox door, and moves his face** Why bless me! If we haven't left them behind!
True thats true
*Shed 17 flashbacks*
Leave me alone! (Ding!) Ahhh! (Ding! Akira) AHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!
Just had to search it up and god that is unnecessarily dark for Thomas the tank engine lol
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"I'm going to burst, I'm going to burst" and "rubbish Henry" made me laugh so hard
Thank god you didn't go the shed 17 route. However, here are a couple of things to note. (and yes, ik this is for fun, I'm just saying this to get some facts straight)
One: There are no eyes present in the windows of any locomotive. The ones who come close are the culdee fell engines, which have faces on the back of their cabs. How Thomas looked back can be explained by his face [which is on his smokebox door] swinging open to look back. The model series cannot show that due to limitations/scarring the audience. However, even then, Thomas can rely on his crew as well.
Two: Locomotives in general can't grab things with their buffers. I think you got them mixed up with their couplers. Even then, do not trust early Thomas UA-camrs, as that stuff is fanmade, and isn't really canon. They use the buffers as arms because it's funny and stuff like that.
Three: Tenders are *VITAL* , for certain locomotives. Engines like Thomas and Percy don't need the tenders, because they were built as tank engines that can't go long distances, while larger engines like Murdoch and Gordon need the tenders to not only go the distance but to also store more coal and water than the tank engines. If they were for cosmetic reasons, then why do larger engines have them around at all times, and without the tenders, they can't go anywhere. [As shown in Love me tender]
Four: Henry in his old shape had plenty of coal, it was the fact that his firebox was small and couldn't create enough steam, due to the current coal supply. With Welsh Coal, he could steam better until the flying kipper incident, and after that, he was rebuilt.
Five: The reason why Thomas nearly blows up is because there are fish in the water in Thomas' tanks blocking the proper systems to help feed water into his boiler. He doesn't feel bloated or anything, even with plenty of water in the tanks, if the injector fails, the engine has no way of getting water. He didn't have too much water.
Six: "Only when their engines are removed." I'm sorry, *what.* That's not how it works. A locomotive dies in one of two ways. Either they are damaged so heavily in accidents that they are killed instantly [ex, boiler explosion] or when they are cut apart and scrapped. Every last piece must be scrapped. Also if the faces *are* mechanical as you say, then engines can't die, as their faces might be transferred over to a different engine once their body is scrapped. A steam locomotive is technically an steam engine on wheels. It might work for diesels, but steam engines are diffrent.
Seven: Rev. W. Awdry was a priest, yes, but he also grew up around railways, and volunteered at a certain narrow-gauge railway in Wales. He would often hear the engines at work, saying that their puffing and chuffing reminded him a lot of people having conversations with each other. The engine's minds and bodies are one and the same.
Eight: yes, Tugs is Thomas' sister show, and yes it uses the same concepts of faces. That doesn't mean that it operates on the same standards are it. Tugs were more complex than Thomas, being run by a few members of the Thomas crew before season three aired. Tugboats have boilers in them to be operated and all that fancy stuff. Plus, Tugs only lasted a whole season, before it got canned, so we don't know the full extent of it anyway. Even then, they are one and the same, as how else do you think they can move without a crew looking after them? They have full control of their bodies, and their minds think alike.
nine: The later seasons of the series had bad writing, due to showwriters being not knowledgeable on railway practices, and many fans had a discourse over there. An engine's desire has nothing to do with how they operate. They *need* a crew to keep them functioning at all times. As for the personalities being switched, again. Bad. Writing.
Again, I know this video was for fun, but I just wanted to let you know of a few things that should really be said and that you might want to recheck the facts. This theory needs some work, but it's a good start.
Well said!!!! Well said!! 100% correct here
Add on to six: if you’re saying that engine faces can be transferred to other engines, then why did Oliver and the Stepney get rescued by Donald and rusty from the scrap yard if that was the case, what I’m thinking is, that while there faces are mechanical, there eyes aren’t, which leads me to assume the eyes contain their souls, and no matter if you put their faces on another engine, they wouldn’t work because their souls would still be within the body that was about to be scraped.
He explicitly stated that transferring faces does not transfer their mind/soul
There are Culdee Fell locomotives that have faces on their back! And theres MightyMac who has 2 faces well, i guess its One body and 2 heads!
Also, if the face is mechanical... How the heck can they blush?
2:09 Thomas looked back. *HINGE* “Why bless me, if we haven’t left them behind!” The signalman: 😦
In the railway series, it's proven that the engine's faces are the smoke box doors. And they have blood in the faces. In my opinion, the faces are biological and they're on the smoke box.And the smoke box can be removed and the faces can be pulled to open the smoke box doors
So if the engine needed blood, would the hinges be like veins?
@imaketrainzvideosThey do though…
@imaketrainzvideos You know, you can remove someone's face and they're still inside the rest of their body.
Which episode?
@@Dookie-z7q the missing coach is a good example.
They are figurative 0:29, to answer all your questions… they are merely machines where the people have given them personality, the illustrations include faces merely to convey their emotions. The stories are embellishments, the IOS books are the “in-universe explanation”
There faces are magical , if they die there faces will wanish
14:07 I had that theory when I was 6 years old every time I watched TATMR, because I wanted to explain why the drivers don't stop the engines from doing bad things.
Pretty sure Awdry stated that the engine 's faces are the result of a curse on the island. Not 100% on that but feel free to look it up
5:05
Thomas had too little water, it couldn’t get to his boiler because fish were inside of the ejectors.
Im confused, duke survives seemingly without oxygen under a landslide, salty survives underwater, but the engine that fell into the water in duncan gets spooked seemingly died, so what is the deal with oxygen?
Thomas is supposed to be incredibly meta. Basically it’s our world and history but there is an extra land mass in Britain, and vehicles can talk. All forms of media including RWS are interpretations of what happen, (awdry visits Sodor in-universe) so the show in-universe is Britt alcroft find out the RWS on the bluebell, gained the rights, made the pilot, then the show aired on ITV.
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I've said this a million times in a million different places, but the faces are just a metaphor. Thomas is simply the extension of the intrinsic feeling many train crews had that their engines were alive in one way or another. Members of the same class could perform differently, as though they had personalities. Some days they were easy going, and some days you had to fight them. Above all, just standing next to a fired steam locomotive invokes the same awe as being in the presence of a mighty animal with all the sounds, motion and smells. They just talk and have faces in Thomas to better illustrate what they're thinking and so they can imprint on readers better.
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Ramafool.... Damn, he's still my favorite childhood TTTe UA-camr to this day
If there's a Shed 17 or Project G1 reference, I'm gonna be pissed.
There is none.
I would too, it's too disturbing for people who watched the show before.
@@antonioscholten Yeah! I agree.
They likely had characters share face masks to reduce the amount of face masks to keep track of/used. If two characters with similar faces need to make similar expressions
Getting a new coat of paint is obviously an equivalent to changing clothes
To counteract your point about the faces, characters blush, which implies blood flow to the cheeks. There was also the episode where James was stung on the nose and it became swollen, evidence of tissue inflammation. Not to mention the episode where Henry has a cold, and his face clearly shows him sniffling, indicating that his nostrils can still breathe.
All three of these pieces of evidence come from Model Series episodes, and suggest that the faces are organic in nature
We have Pixar's Cars anatomy and now we have Thomas anatomy
I personally feel like Magic Railroad makes the most sense for the whole faces thing on trains, but thats mostly because of all the paranormal happenings that have occurred both in the show as well as newer installations of the Thomas series of movies and TV series that makes it believable
imagine showing this as a school science project video
Even though nobody seems to have asked, im going to explain the senses of what we call 'non-faceless vehicles', or to be more specific, the engines.
1. Hearing is diferent between steamies and diesels. Diesels hear through the grates on their sides, which let sound in to echo around in their interior cavities, allowing them to hear. Steamies use their smokeboxes to hear, with sounds coming in through their funnels/smokestacks/chimneys, and then echoing around in their smokeboxes.
2. Touch is felt through the metal on their entire extirior, but mostly they use their buffers, as Steaming_Along stated
3. Smell is relatively simple, being as engines clearly have noses on their faces
4. Sight was explained by Steaming_Along already, so I don't think I need to reiterate
5. Taste also seems to be in the face area, even to the engines tend to 'ingest' fuel through their fireboxes.
I credit my knowledge of the sense of hearing to Victor Tanzig, go check out his youtube channel and if you like his work, drop a subscribe while you're there. If you read this far, thanks!
00:09:36, the image of the black-faced scrapyard engine already proves part of your idea their faces are removable, its sort of like a mask. They can get painted over.
I'm sorry but I don't agree with you. Are you sure it's not just dust, soot, and rust covering the face. Because just being painted on and are like masks makes no sense to me or others who know that's not true.
Ramahfool and Joey Turner reference in 2024? 😮
That does raise a huge question during one of the mid model series where Diesel gets his engine replaced after giving Emily a hard time about being a record holder. He clearly had his engine removed... Which implies that he would have died? Love these anatomy theories
The personality changes being an act might actually be the canon answer. Correct me if I'm wrong, but in The Railway Series books, the Thomas and Friends show actually exists in universe, and it was made to retell the stories of the engines in the book
You use Tugs and OJ as a reference for replacing the engine.
in an episode of Thomas, Diesel had his engine replaced.
Personally, I don’t really care about the nitty-gritty details like this
I just need to know how the face gets there and now I know the answer. I can sleep easily.
6:17 theory on this stage, When the engine is puffing with steam, the drivers put coal, but it means more steam, more steam equals more blood but more blood means you have too much, then the funnels are there to get the excess steam out. In cgi Thomas, when they whistle, they close their eyes, this might be because they are forcing more excess steam out of their body, but forcing more steam out of their body isn't unhealthy, since they blow their whistles while puffing or even standby in a station, They are still burning coal which leads to more steam so this isn't a problem.
That concludes this theory.
I was not expecting to see Timothy here. But then again, he is every Thomas is.
I always liked the idea that the engines speak telepathically. Thats why (back when the series used actual model trains) their mouths don't move when they talk.
I think the Male Vs. Female gender debate, it has to come down to voice and voice mannerisms.
Not to forget: I believe that the illusive 'Gold dust" helps bring these engines to life. Where do these machines gain consciousness from? Magic.
(Can't you tell I love TATMR?)
How to engines drive? Simple. It's like learning to walk. The drivers are there just to monitor and gauge the engine. There are more specifics but I'm not going to delve into those for the sake of my time.
as a child, I came to the conclusion that the engines can move on their own, but they cant stop on their own, witch is why they keep getting into trouble on their own. (there's probably a lot of evidence that disproves that theory tho)
This explains why there are Evangelion and Thomas The Tank Engine crossovers.
Your brain at 3am ladies and gentlemen
2:34 some crashes like James’ runaway must be painful 😣
11:23 you forgot to also mention tugs is canon to TTTE so anything that happens in tugs applies to TTTE as well.
TUGS isn't canon to TTTE.
Where did you even get that info?
Thomas and the magic railway
I have actually created my own idea of how the engine's sentience work (inspired by MasteroftheLemons). It's that the faces *are* physical, but they are manifestations of the engine. As engines in real life are often referred to as "living and breathing", then it makes sense that the engine itself is alive, but it communicates/interacts with the rest of the world through a face.
This idea resolves issues with some RWS only characters. The Culdee Fell engines have 2 faces, one on each end. However, i believe that this is a factor exclusive to specific engines. It is 2 faces, but only 1 "soul". The engine would change which face it is using, with only one being visible at a time. This also apply's to Toby, Daisy, BoCo, Bear, D199, D261, and every other engine with 2 cabs. They are illustrated with their faces on the other end in the books sometimes, such as in Toby's Megatrain. This only applies to mountain engines and engines with two cabs. In cases like Mighty-Mac, it is two "souls" in one body, very much the equivalent of conjoined twins.
Additionally, the engines can "remove" their face of they so choose. This allows crews to do things such as clean out the smokebox. The engines would also "lose" their face when they sleep. The engines are also capable of falling into hibernation of sorts. When Duke is left in his shed, he says he will "go to sleep to pass the time." Then when Duke is found, he wakes up and is just as he is when he was put in the sheds 20 years ago. I interpret this as an engine preserving its soul over long periods of time. This would also be a case when engines are left in scrapyards.
So yea, this is my take on how the engines are sentient. Feel free to use this idea or build apon it or whatever, i don't care.
I like this idea a lot. It feels the "cleanest" as far as explanations go. The disappearing face thing is a bit weird, but there's always one issue with any explanation, isn't there?
This is tbh learning about the anatomy of engines even tho they are just model trains
This is like an orientation video when hired to work for the island of sodor
3:41 i remember this 😂
Can't we just settle that they're just their own species or whatever?
"shed 17 can't hurt you, it's not real"
I do agree that tenders for trains are cosmetic but instead of using something like food as an example I think of it like classes and stuff like that
I had a random thought on the drivers debacle. what if, since the engines in this headcanon have noncorporeal minds, the drivers are a manifestation of that mind the same way the engines personality is, meaning the physical engines are just avatar style vessels, perhaps they are tied to their drivers through a psychic link and when their personality changes, new drivers are manifested to match what the mind is trying to create? either way I love metaphysics and using it to get far too crazy in my childhood shows is always a fun trip.
why did you reupload shed 17? /j anyways this is really good btw
I like the idea of Thomas using his smokebox door to look behind.
You kinda forgot that they can blush and that should mean they have blood.
That's what I'm saying. They probably only have blood on the face and that it
Good thing it’s just a theory!
The trains are just normal trains, they’ve been in accidents, they have certain mechanical quirks, but at the end of the day they are just machines. However, the people of Sodor love these machines and talk about them as if they are people. The Reverend’s stories are reinterpretations of “real” events, but giving the trains faces in order to convince the audience of what he has believed his whole life… trains DO talk. Go to any preserved line with and active steam engine, and you’ll hear her whole life story! Awdry didn’t have some big explanation for how the trains were alive, because in his mind, they always have been!
You dont think about the faces too deeply and they make sense
Some interesting ideas and well thought out info, I like this, thank you for sharing!
And this is the first time I've heard the American voice over on the original episodes, and it's scary having only known the British versions. Not in a bad way! XD
I mostly just say everything is a big metaphor and leave it at that...
To answer the question about if the engines are mechanical or organic is like trying to solve FNAF lore, it's a waste of time.
Who is gonna tell him that the engine do have Actual blood in there face
It can be said when faces are attached something occurs that allows for that. There's more points against biological faces then mechanical faces.
@@SteamingAlong blushing requires blood though
It’s not like shed 17 tho ;-;
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THEIR FACES NOT THEIR BODIES THEIR FACES
@@happyburger23 as seen at 9:32, their faces are made of metal. Otherwise they wouldn’t be able to rust. Metal does turn red when it gets hot so blood is not required for blushing
Bro i got an All Engines Go ad on this video 😂
3:41 oh my gosh the nostalgia
is that thomas doing the rock?!??! its the face on the bottom right 0:21
Yeah
I don’t see it.
Diesels Use Water to Cool the Prime movers like how blood works… Diesels Use Diesel fuel as Food and Oil used in Lubricants
In AEG they act like talking animals with the wheels as hands. Mattel ain't beating the Paw Patrol plagiarism allegations lmao.
6:58 the diesel in the engine is not circulated throughout the engine, it is the fuel not the blood
So the tender is basically just the train equivalent of a lunchbox.
8:13 I kinda have a theory to this
So, Gordon and Spencer are cousins, right? (Correct me if I'm wrong) and they were built by the same person, right? (Also correct me) so my theory is that trains are made via the person who's designing it. So if ALCo made locomotives, then those locos are related, becaus they were made by the same thing.
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"Motorhead" album cover and Kipling's "007" had living rail transit locomotives as did an episode of "Futurama".
In the railway series, Henry's smoke box got cleaned in Henry's sneeze, this means the faces are the doors of the smoke box
1 hour study : 😴
14 minutes talk anatomy Thomas: 🧐
He's confusing production errors with actual cannon.
The Engines faces are biological, the face swap that you mentioned earlier were goofs in the production, and the engines that talk without faces were also little goofs. And in the railway series lore, the faces are biological and disappear when they die, they are not removed.
Edit: "Thomas looked back" he doesn't look through his windows, that was also a goof on the writer's part.
I like the magic railroad way of they get there face because of the magic on the island
It was a Truman show for trains.
all of the thomas and friends episodes are just a set with model trains making more sense
Now we’re just begging for someone to make them in real life more accurately
Wonderful.
I like to think that their faces are made of rubber, and the mechanics of their faces are similar to animatronics. That is why their faces can be mechanical and bend so naturally at the same time.
Tenders are not part of engines biologically, or engineering-wise.
Tender Engines store Fuel(Coal, Wood, Oil...etc.) and Water in the tenders. They can work without tenders, albeit for a limited time and with difficulity. The Aurora from Metro Exodus is a Kolomna Locomotive Works P38 locomotive with several modifications in the post apocalyptic landscape. The P38 was a Tender Engine, but the Aurora is modified to be a quasi-tank engine, using external storage for water, and internal storage for coal. This gives it some range, but it becomes an issue in the game, that this is far from being enough.
D51 Class "Hiro" also first steams without his tender in his movie, which confirms that they don't need their tenders biologically.
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What episode of thomas and Friends is in this scene
In one of the books, henrys driver opened his smoke box
I can imagine 2 trains making out.
Literal thomas: "i'm about to burst!"
I think that when you light the fire box, the face just kind of "appears" so then when they scrap the engine, they let the fire out and wait till the face disappears.
Funny, I thought they were all magical machines. Machines that can think and feel so long as someone believes in them (from Thomas and the Magic Railroad). But anatomically, I think it's their furnace that does most of their biological functions of breathing and eating while their funnels are exhaling. Steam I think is both an energy source as well as a waste product. But even better... What if the engines worked on a simpler body plan like that of insects?
So if this show is all a play, then do they have scripts? Because an act would usually have a script right?
Audrey says the locomotives personality’s come from their performance, and the way their engineers portray them
The vehicles of this world don’t actually have faces but an unknown power causes the humans of this world to perceive them that way.
Why does my tv have thomas' inside blurred, but my phone has him not blurred?
Locomotives with knuckle couplers would obviously seem like hands, ive seen a photo of somebody fist bumping a GG1 kuncle coupler.
In my headcanon Skarloey and Rheneas's childish episodes were misinformation from Sir Handel given to the new writers when they were visiting the island. In reality those episode happened with Ivo Hugh, Smudger and Fred.
There’s victor tanzig explaining the theory…
they are mechanical, in the thomas/rws universe, the mechanical parts are their organs. (puffing sounds being them breathing etc.)
Hold on. Doesn’t James’s nose get all big and red when he’s stung by bees? Mechincal faces can’t do that. Only organic ones can.
So now we have a Ship of Theseus issue. How much can you replace on a locomotive before it gets a new personality? Because locomotives regularly have parts replaced. Even things as integral as frames or boilers can be replaced. That's like getting a new torso.
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There is another theory that Thomas ties into the Pixar Theory.
You mean like cars?
@@KingReece-re8mx Yes. That vehicles wake up by themselves: ua-cam.com/video/0T6_OTgFMY8/v-deo.htmlsi=7Zm6G27bX_Am-cFS
Maybe they are "Sandworms" from Herbert's "Dune" novels wearing latex rubber masks since by Cube Square megafauna on terrestrial land would sink into topsoil.
Maybe they excrete their own biomineralized rail transit tracks so please do not get started on Freudian metaphors.
As a fan of TATMR, I was under the impression that the engines faces are made of magic, sort of like a 3d solid hologram.