It gets even better when you remember that EDI is the Normandy. She must view Tali as a doctor and a healer, keeping her at peak condition, no matter how many fights they have to go through. :')
"EDI also gains access to "Anti-Reaper Algorithms" later in the game, and states that she devotes significant processing power to analyzing them. When pressed on this subject by Shepard as to how she could hope to combat beings millions of years more advanced, she reveals that she was in part designed by technology gained from Sovereign's remains and thus, at least partially, based on Reaper technology herself. " ~ Mass Effect Wiki
I remember in ME1 she was basically a little girl, her voice was so quiet and she was so shy and innocent :3 I love Tali so much, she's my favourite girl in the whole trilogy :3
but the thing is, if you remember what Mordin said about the collectors in ME2 (if you played it), the immunological failing of the quarians would have been complemented by tech, and the Salarian short life spans would have also been complemented by reaper tech, i suspect that if they had been used, they would have been similar to the marauder in the field, there actually was one enemy cut from the game, the "pariah" cut in production, it had a salarian as part of it. quarian, unknown.
They certainly prefer her as a character. She is far more important than pretty much every other squad mate in ME3 (That may be partially due to logistical reasons, since Tali and Garrus can both be dead), but you are correct. She developed greatly as a character over the three games, whereas most others didn't. They gave her a makeover, they gave her a freaking DLC, and her conversations in 3 are the most poignant. Sometimes you should just accept the best character they create.
some dialogue are only available when Shepard have enough renegade/paragon points, sometimes decisions based on previous games and the order which you complete the quests in. over all, its a in depth game
In the Codex subsection on the Reaper War it mentions how some of the more desperate military commanders suggested blowing up Relays Arrival style to destroy or slow down the Reapers. This is of course discounted by the fact that the Reapers got to the Galaxy from Dark Space with their "conventional" physics breaking FTL but then again, I guess they don't need to worry about build up of static charge and drive core discharge like Organics do with their ships.
dont't know , their frame and body is implied to be kinda fragile in the ME univese and only a few like Mordin or the STG can partipate in real figths and even then they need advance combat tech ,but they could been like medics or something healing reaper troops with some sort of reparing power from th sidelines and come to think about it quarians would have been good reaper combat enginners with reaper drones ,but in the end i guess its was just because bioware didnt have time because of EA
Which, honestly, when you think about it makes sense. Most non-mamalian gender differences tend to be size and variances in plumage/color/cresting. Most aliens in Mass Effect appear to be non mammalian (if one can even use the term). I know it was done primarily as a cost-saving measure, but still. In regards to the krogans, turians and salarains, it makes sense in-universe.
Did anyone else notice that the ONLY Asari that were modified were the Ardat Yakshi? The normal Asari were just killed.. i doubt they were modified into Banshees, unless i read/heard wrong
It's sent the reapers already. No matter what logic had evolved since that point, the catalyst believed synthetics would kill organics and reacted accordingly.
I don't know if you played with the From Ashes dlc or not but based on what Javik the prothean said his people found all that tech there just like our cycle did so based on that I would say that the reapers must have as I think that's the only other explanation
Yet another thing that shows Bioware's lack of closure in the endings. In Arrival the Alpha Relay was destroyed by an asteroid being slammed into it. In the ME3 ending, they seem to "eject" their eezo cores and fall apart. If I had to use an analogy, I'd say the destruction of the Relays in the ME3 ending was a "controlled demolition" and not the brute force affair the Shepard used in Arrival with that Asteroid.
yeah the edstroy ending only affects things that aer erapwe technology and since the Gerth and EDI aer not reaper tech they would be unaffected by the ending
That's not necessarily a bad thing. It just means the catalyst and the reapers are fatalistic, speaking of inevitability, whereas the humans, turians, krogan, quarians, geth, etc. represent hope and second chances. The geth and the quarians coming together, and the acceptance of EDI, are a victory over the reapers.
i also didnt get it and the heat sink shut off one. I think its random + not quite enough missions to set off the conversations if we did the side missions before tali got onboard
With time, effort and a passion, my friend. The developers had this in for themselves when they wrote the whole story from Mass Effect 1 to 3. They did that in the beginning and even had the ending spelled out. Bioware are talented, that much we know, but since EA took them over, they've gotten worse. I couldn't really give a real answer to your question, but I'm sure Bioware would know some how to make a good ending to a story.
The difference is that the Reapers preserve the races that got advanced enough to make synthetics, therefore ensuring a record of them for the ages. The regular synthetics just killed organics. But I agree about the getting laid part.
I heard its a bug where you will not get most of the dialog until Ken & Gabby talk about Ashley after you bring her on a bunch of missions, this means you can't fix the bug with Kaiden. I don't know if the bug is fixed yet, but I'll try to see if using Ashley a lot fixes it.
And what of that planet the Normandy crashed on? If Joker and the rest of the crew with levo amino acids (everyone on the Normandy who isn't Garrus and Tali) can eat the food on this planet then that means that when the Normandy's supply of Dextro food runs out, Garrus and Tali are going to starve to death as they can't eat Levo food without getting anaphylactic shock at BEST.
When EDI says adept I think she meant that Quarians are skilled with technology and this was in the original game so if BioWare wanted to make a Quarian adept for multiplayer they probably would have already released it.
Actually no, the Synthesis ending simply combines the qualities of both organics and synthetics as the god-child said, organics seek perfection through tech and Synthetics seek perfection by understanding organics as far as genetic flaws, that is another matter.
Actually, there's a bug concerning ALL ambient dialogue in Engineering; ie. Ken, Gabby, Adams and Tali. The bug revolves around an issue with Ashley's character: you've got to be good friends with her (or have her as a LI) in order to activate the ambient dialogue. A real shame because those of us who have Kaiden are screwed. Ugh! Hopefully Bioware will fix this with a future patch.
Just because she can be romanced all throughout the series doesn't mean they want you to romance her. In ME1 they wanted to have the option of an alien romance. And in Mass Effect 2, the developers hadn't thought of making her romancable until Shadow Broker came out. The devs were surprised about the backlash of not being able to romance more characters in ME1.
Those victories mean nothing if the Krogan rennaisance is cut short if Wrex is stuck on Earth and the Geth and EDI are sacrificed to Destroy the Reapers nor do I want to do what Saren wanted with Synthesis (forcing that change on everyone is abhorrent) or what the Illusive Man wanted with Control (we are not ready for that kind of power. "Give a man the power of a God and you had better hope he has the morals of a God to match" - Colonel Commissar Ibram Gaunt)
Tali: well i'm going to talk to everybody but Shepard, It's not like he has any pressure or anything sure i say a few things like "good to see you" everytime you press the A button but i really don't need to talk to you.
Yeah, maybe. But it isn't like they actively want you to romance her. I'd say she's romance-able in all game because they possibly wanted to have a character that you could be fully loyal too romanticly. So I'd say if a Mass Effect 4 comes out WITH Shepard, then Liara will most likely be romancable if she's in it. But there'll possibly be other options, like Tali, whom I felt more close too because she was by your side throughout the entire game as a squadmate.
What the hell? How come I never saw Tali in engineering? It's the first place I looked for her, but no I find her a deck above, then I find her drunk, then deciding if she should console Liara, then I walk in on her and Garrus.
How do you not believe in canon in mass effect? The story is built on canon. That's why we choose Spacer, Colonist or Earthborn in Mass Effect 1 and it effects how everyone sees us from there on.
because you're not in a relationship with her. There's a conversation where shepperd and her both say that they're pretty much not an item. It's only in 3 that you can chose to be with her.
That seems a common sentiment. I'd be interested to know why people dislike her, but then again I take a more impersonal approach to Mass Effect, opting for who I find more intriguing than who I "like". Why do you dislike her?
It gets even better when you remember that EDI is the Normandy. She must view Tali as a doctor and a healer, keeping her at peak condition, no matter how many fights they have to go through. :')
"EDI also gains access to "Anti-Reaper Algorithms" later in the game, and states that she devotes significant processing power to analyzing them. When pressed on this subject by Shepard as to how she could hope to combat beings millions of years more advanced, she reveals that she was in part designed by technology gained from Sovereign's remains and thus, at least partially, based on Reaper technology herself. " ~ Mass Effect Wiki
I remember in ME1 she was basically a little girl, her voice was so quiet and she was so shy and innocent :3 I love Tali so much, she's my favourite girl in the whole trilogy :3
Tali was romanced in this play through.
As it always should be :)
@@bombomos well said
Good choice.
I've never romanced Tali. Perhaps one of my hundreds of playthrus I will!
TO quote Harbinger in ME2 (unused dialogue):
"Quarian: Considered due to cybernetic augmentation. Weakened immune system to debilitating."
Yeah, the writers of ME3 didnt consider that Quarians would most likely die from the huskification process due to the weakened immune system.
@@Dark_Voicethe reapers could have replaced that with tech to ensure they don't loose them in the process like they did to the protheans
I want to hug Tali and EDI.
EDI: you would make excellent Reapers soilders.
Tali: thanks, EDI, I think... lol
Out of all the "thanks, I think" this one is the best.
Harbinger
“Quarian; considered due to cybernetic augmentation, weakened immune system too debilitating.”
Coming from EDI, there's something endearing about saying a friend's assimilation would benefit the enemy.
Interesting. Whenever I went to talk to the love of my life tali, she’d be yapping with garrus.
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That proves Quarians don't have a neck...
Dem aliens lol
but the thing is, if you remember what Mordin said about the collectors in ME2 (if you played it), the immunological failing of the quarians would have been complemented by tech, and the Salarian short life spans would have also been complemented by reaper tech, i suspect that if they had been used, they would have been similar to the marauder in the field, there actually was one enemy cut from the game, the "pariah" cut in production, it had a salarian as part of it. quarian, unknown.
Shepherd: "Get a room you two!"
the asari or well banshee's were horrifying and I hope nothing like the reapers will never happen again
They won't, babe. I'll make sure of it. Once I'm done with them I'm going to build you that house on Rannoch. Keelah Se'lai.
They certainly prefer her as a character. She is far more important than pretty much every other squad mate in ME3 (That may be partially due to logistical reasons, since Tali and Garrus can both be dead), but you are correct. She developed greatly as a character over the three games, whereas most others didn't. They gave her a makeover, they gave her a freaking DLC, and her conversations in 3 are the most poignant. Sometimes you should just accept the best character they create.
We should use EDI to find out what the reapers would use each species for.
I couldn't keep my eyes off Tali's head LOL
There is an Turian female Nurse on the Citadel in the temporary Hospital Citadel´s Docks Holding Area for that Side Quest Wounded Batarian.
huh it was probably due to me doing a lot of missions before this like the other said. thanks for the clari.
But...
"Turian: You are considered... too primitive".
And there are are Marauders out there.
I would prefer being useless instead of being transformed into a monster zombie with some pipes in the head...
Exactly what I think every single time I'm on here.
Best reply ever, I take my hat off to you sir.
9 year old game and still finding new things about it.
Well EDI is right.
Even Harbinger said he's kinda impressed by quarians back in ME2.
some dialogue are only available when Shepard have enough renegade/paragon points, sometimes decisions based on previous games and the order which you complete the quests in.
over all, its a in depth game
Ashley and Tali were in all three games, Tali was a squad member in all three.
In the Codex subsection on the Reaper War it mentions how some of the more desperate military commanders suggested blowing up Relays Arrival style to destroy or slow down the Reapers. This is of course discounted by the fact that the Reapers got to the Galaxy from Dark Space with their "conventional" physics breaking FTL but then again, I guess they don't need to worry about build up of static charge and drive core discharge like Organics do with their ships.
dont't know , their frame and body is implied to be kinda fragile in the ME univese and only a few like Mordin or the STG can partipate in real figths and even then they need advance combat tech ,but they could been like medics or something healing reaper troops with some sort of reparing power from th sidelines and come to think about it quarians would have been good reaper combat enginners with reaper drones ,but in the end i guess its was just because bioware didnt have time because of EA
I can just see EDI and Tali with sleeping bags curled up in some corner of the ship talkin bout stuff.
I'd shudder to think what kind of abominations would be sired from Geth crossed with Quarians!
Which, honestly, when you think about it makes sense. Most non-mamalian gender differences tend to be size and variances in plumage/color/cresting. Most aliens in Mass Effect appear to be non mammalian (if one can even use the term).
I know it was done primarily as a cost-saving measure, but still. In regards to the krogans, turians and salarains, it makes sense in-universe.
how the heck did this go from romance to the ending to what the sex of diffrent aliens look like?
all the feels
because the mass relays are reaper technologyso anythingthat affects the reapers is going to affect them as well
They did. They're called Adjutants. They just weren't featured in the game.
Did anyone else notice that the ONLY Asari that were modified were the Ardat Yakshi? The normal Asari were just killed.. i doubt they were modified into Banshees, unless i read/heard wrong
It really doesn't matter if its logic is flawed.
When I grow old, I'm going to an asari retirement home.
Shepard: Dat ass.
cows is programming not specifically technology as for EDI I don't think I remember anyone saying they used reaper technology to build her
Tali is so sweet..
Oww they both so cute ☺️
It's sent the reapers already. No matter what logic had evolved since that point, the catalyst believed synthetics would kill organics and reacted accordingly.
I don't know if you played with the From Ashes dlc or not but based on what Javik the prothean said his people found all that tech there just like our cycle did so based on that I would say that the reapers must have as I think that's the only other explanation
Yet another thing that shows Bioware's lack of closure in the endings. In Arrival the Alpha Relay was destroyed by an asteroid being slammed into it. In the ME3 ending, they seem to "eject" their eezo cores and fall apart. If I had to use an analogy, I'd say the destruction of the Relays in the ME3 ending was a "controlled demolition" and not the brute force affair the Shepard used in Arrival with that Asteroid.
her romance in me2 is available if you have the shadow broker dlc
yeah the edstroy ending only affects things that aer erapwe technology and since the Gerth and EDI aer not reaper tech they would be unaffected by the ending
Series, i meant in that other post
That's not necessarily a bad thing. It just means the catalyst and the reapers are fatalistic, speaking of inevitability, whereas the humans, turians, krogan, quarians, geth, etc. represent hope and second chances. The geth and the quarians coming together, and the acceptance of EDI, are a victory over the reapers.
It's Reaper tech that got destroyed. Shep had reaper implants, but not the Quarians. Aaah, fuck it: INDOCTRINATION THEORY!
Because they held the line
i also didnt get it and the heat sink shut off one. I think its random + not quite enough missions to set off the conversations if we did the side missions before tali got onboard
spiders! spiders! spiders! spiiidderrsss!!!
With time, effort and a passion, my friend. The developers had this in for themselves when they wrote the whole story from Mass Effect 1 to 3. They did that in the beginning and even had the ending spelled out. Bioware are talented, that much we know, but since EA took them over, they've gotten worse. I couldn't really give a real answer to your question, but I'm sure Bioware would know some how to make a good ending to a story.
oh look who's taliking XD
dont worry i forget put smiley at the end of text. it is mine fault indeed
I think harbinger meant to make a slave race out of (Not like husks) but like the collectors, modified for the sole purpose of serving the reapers..
The difference is that the Reapers preserve the races that got advanced enough to make synthetics, therefore ensuring a record of them for the ages. The regular synthetics just killed organics. But I agree about the getting laid part.
Random conversations in the comments section of videos with random conversations in the game > ending
I've had this dialogue when she's been romanced.
I heard its a bug where you will not get most of the dialog until Ken & Gabby talk about Ashley after you bring her on a bunch of missions, this means you can't fix the bug with Kaiden. I don't know if the bug is fixed yet, but I'll try to see if using Ashley a lot fixes it.
And what of that planet the Normandy crashed on? If Joker and the rest of the crew with levo amino acids (everyone on the Normandy who isn't Garrus and Tali) can eat the food on this planet then that means that when the Normandy's supply of Dextro food runs out, Garrus and Tali are going to starve to death as they can't eat Levo food without getting anaphylactic shock at BEST.
When EDI says adept I think she meant that Quarians are skilled with technology and this was in the original game so if BioWare wanted to make a Quarian adept for multiplayer they probably would have already released it.
krogan body with turian intelligence according to the codex
Actually no, the Synthesis ending simply combines the qualities of both organics and synthetics as the god-child said, organics seek perfection through tech and Synthetics seek perfection by understanding organics as far as genetic flaws, that is another matter.
>OH GOD, WHY?
my exact words.
Actually, there's a bug concerning ALL ambient dialogue in Engineering; ie. Ken, Gabby, Adams and Tali. The bug revolves around an issue with Ashley's character: you've got to be good friends with her (or have her as a LI) in order to activate the ambient dialogue. A real shame because those of us who have Kaiden are screwed.
Ugh! Hopefully Bioware will fix this with a future patch.
I'm suprised the reapers never converted the Elcor.
imagine a husk made of a volus i think it would be like a boomer of L4D but smaller
Just because she can be romanced all throughout the series doesn't mean they want you to romance her. In ME1 they wanted to have the option of an alien romance. And in Mass Effect 2, the developers hadn't thought of making her romancable until Shadow Broker came out. The devs were surprised about the backlash of not being able to romance more characters in ME1.
So, Mordin... would you say that you... Made a mistake..?
/sigh. Legion upgraded the geth with REAPER CODE. EDI was taken from Luna and augmented with REAPER TECH. Of course they're affected.
OH GAWD
Those victories mean nothing if the Krogan rennaisance is cut short if Wrex is stuck on Earth and the Geth and EDI are sacrificed to Destroy the Reapers nor do I want to do what Saren wanted with Synthesis (forcing that change on everyone is abhorrent) or what the Illusive Man wanted with Control (we are not ready for that kind of power. "Give a man the power of a God and you had better hope he has the morals of a God to match" - Colonel Commissar Ibram Gaunt)
This must be a hint about futrue DLC amybe there will be quarian adept that will be awsome.
Or the canon will be that he didn't romance any at all, like if you didn't decide to import a Shepard from ME1 to ME2
Exactly!
She's in denial mister Alenko
What? No! No, I mean like splicing Turians with Krogan and from it creating the Brute, or the Asari turned Banshees.
Tali: well i'm going to talk to everybody but Shepard, It's not like he has any pressure or anything sure i say a few things like "good to see you" everytime you press the A button but i really don't need to talk to you.
I've never heard them say they're not an item unless you romanced someone else before her in ME2
I never saw a Salarian female (Or maybe I have, but I don't remember). What are they like?
imagine a species so uslesss that the reapers wont even invade their planet
...*cough*
@@justalapis5768 *cough* indeed.
Yeah, maybe. But it isn't like they actively want you to romance her. I'd say she's romance-able in all game because they possibly wanted to have a character that you could be fully loyal too romanticly. So I'd say if a Mass Effect 4 comes out WITH Shepard, then Liara will most likely be romancable if she's in it. But there'll possibly be other options, like Tali, whom I felt more close too because she was by your side throughout the entire game as a squadmate.
Yet again, they've mentioned that organics and synthetics can co-exist, but all gets thrown out the window at the end
And we NEVER see Salarian Husks. LOL
Hmmm I've wondered that myself, haha maybe we should winge some more so Bioware releases free DLC for that too!
Still searching for failiurbanik's comment, low on supplies, Tell my parents I love them
I seriously cannot put this any clearer. That is not their idea of what it should look like (choices wise)
tali:the asari are soooo beautifull!
shepard: hehe OOOORIGHT!! :-)
What the hell? How come I never saw Tali in engineering? It's the first place I looked for her, but no I find her a deck above, then I find her drunk, then deciding if she should console Liara, then I walk in on her and Garrus.
to be blunt mrcombine i dont give a Vorcha's ass what bioware wants at this point.
How do you not believe in canon in mass effect? The story is built on canon. That's why we choose Spacer, Colonist or Earthborn in Mass Effect 1 and it effects how everyone sees us from there on.
D: when tali spoke with edi ?
because you're not in a relationship with her. There's a conversation where shepperd and her both say that they're pretty much not an item. It's only in 3 that you can chose to be with her.
What do you mean?
Your opinions about Liara are debatable and I don't agree mostly. But I don't want to debate this any longer.
That seems a common sentiment. I'd be interested to know why people dislike her, but then again I take a more impersonal approach to Mass Effect, opting for who I find more intriguing than who I "like". Why do you dislike her?