Mass Effect 3: Tali has a conversation with EDI
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- Опубліковано 2 жов 2024
- Mass Effect 3 (Xbox 360)
Tali has a conversation with EDI after the Tuchanka: Downed Vessel mission (the mission where you rescue the Turian Platoon led by Primarch Victus's son). You can only get this conversation if you not complete the mission until after you complete the Geth-Quarian arc and Tali becomes a squadmate, assuming you brokered peace/let the Quarians live.
I believe this conversation replaces the conversation between Tali, Ken, Gabby, and Adams where Tali modifications on the Normandy without simulations first.
This game came in 2012....and I'm STILL finding new things in it.
Yeah this needs the bomb levels to be completed way later. Should try doing every mission after Tali or VS are in the party, like recruiting Javik.
That's the wonderful thing about Biowaer's RPG's I've don ecountless playthrough's in both Mass Effect and Dragon Age and I still find new thing ssometimes too.
Same with da origins.
@@KasumiRINA as I understand it, this dialogue was recorded back when ME3 was designed to let you complete missions in any order. As it stands missions as locked, you can't go back to Tuchanka after the Genophage is cured, so you can only get this dialogue through mods. There are lots of hidden files like this one in the game! Very fun :)
@@SamusX10 u can get this by doing the rachni mission to unlock tuchunka then going back after recruiting tali to do the turian platoon mission. its in the description of the video its not a mod. There's also special dialogue in the rachni mission if you do it the other way around where tali says grunt is a good choice for this mission unlike herself (she hates spiders)
Enhanced Defensive Intelligence and Therapist.
I love the dichotomy of the ai races in this game, theres the reapers who want to destroy organics, the geth who only engage with organics when threatened and there is edi, the loving crew mate who has everyones backs and makes anyone who messes with her friends fubar. I love it
EDITh
@@TheMiddlingGamer mine was EDIAT which sounds closer to idiot
@@TheMiddlingGamer Sorry, I'm pretty sure Tony already copyrighted that for AI software.
@@TheMiddlingGamer Enhanced -Defensive- Detrimental -Intelligence- Irritating Therapy Harrier
Tali, Garrus, Wrex, Grunt, Morinth, Liara, Miranda, Jack, Jacob...
Is having daddy (or mommy) issues a requirement to make it as part of Shepard's crew?
Grunt doesnt have Daddy Issues (if you can even have those about a syringe), he's just in puberty :D
Samara and Thane are the Mommy/daddy Issue instead, they have child issues. And Mordin doesnt have any mommy issues afaik... he has other problems, tho he allegedly banged Aria, so... eh.
Moral of the story, don't have kids. I think Shep has learned that. Even the kid he tried to save on earth turned out to be some wierd AI.
probably
As a matter of fact, probably yes. Most loyalty missions center around the character's backstory...
Having issues is a requirement of being alive 😝
You forgot to mention James.
I love how this game is really just a thought experiment about AI. EDI is the AI everyone hopes for that’s kind to all humans. The reapers are what everyone fears what AI will become. And the geth are probably what the AI will be in the future
That’s because the Geth were written by someone who has actually studied Artificial Intelligences instead of relying on lazy writer tropes.
The way Tali said Jeff was funny.
I've noticed a lot of side conversations like this where Tali has an idea to help the Normandy run better and I'm pretty sure none of them work.
Most of her failures don't get implemented, but her successes do, It's just Shepard never hears about any of it.
@@TMHedgehog it’s part of where she comes from. On the migrant fleet, you would want to consider any idea that might prolong the lifespan of your people and especially your ships.
Isn't that kind of how technological progress works? Having a new idea that may or may not work, then test it, and afterwards analyze what worked, what didn't work and why. Rework idea based on that new information, test again. repeat cycle until the idea is thoroughly explored and found to either work or not.
She does boost the Normandy’s shields for the suicide mission
From what I understand, a lot of what she knows definitely works on the aging Quarian vessels but won't work with the Normandy's cutting edge systems
So EDIT for short?
Is this supposed to be a reply to the comment above
Hell happened here
@@Ooffoop UA-cam works in mysterious ways
@@waldomkperson8194 UA-cam probably didn't allow direct replies 7 years ago
@@Ooffoop When before Google remade the reply system it just had an embeded ticker of "Replying to [Username]" Right next to the username. When you click on the embed it reloaded the page with the comment highlighted and sent to the top. After it was changed it just left all the comments without the embed, so it looks like everyone was talking to exactly nobody and thus everyone being completely insane.
@@mmouse1886 You know you're old when you remember this. Also, remember when UA-cam had a star rating instead of the like/dislike buttons? Good times.
Holy shit how much did I mis in this game and I played it over 50 times
Cause in this scenario, you have to finish all of Rannoch, then return to the turian squad on Tachunka. A bad move, cause the resulting bomb already blew and weakens your Krogan war points
Says a lot about Tali to have that kind of conversation with EDI!!! I have played this game for a really long time, and I STILL find new things all the time!
Its good to do 3 playthroughs of ME3 - give yourself Tali, then Kaidan, then Ashley immediately after you do Vancouver -> Mars -> Citadel -> Priority: Palaven AND then use the one squadmate on all missions. Some like Priority: Tuchanka - Tali will be silent BUT during some other missions she will actually surprise you with dialogue. Also, she has a lot of these voice comms that you simply cannot hear if you dont save missions until you recruit her - by cheating her to your ship immediately after Palaven you can finally hear all of those.
wait you can do the missions on tuchanka after getting Tali? I thought they were cut off after the citadel attack.
They are cut off after you speak to the Asari Councillor after completing the Rannoch (Geth/Quarian war) arc. The Grissom Academy mission disappears after the citadel attack. Hope that helps.
But you shouldn't do that. You have to rescue the turian platoon to have access to the mission where you have to stop cerberus from detonating this huge bomb on tuchanka. And if you don't finish this mission before healing the genophage, the bomb will detonate, kill many krogans and reduces the strenght of your krogan army by 300 points.
Since when did EDI become qualified to analyze the personal issues of the team?
She is an AI, she can upload software to qualify herself for any task she wants.
Well, from EDI's words appears that it's Joker who analyses personal issues. EDI is just shameless enough to come to talk about it.
@@bengunn9670 or she wants to help.
@@FireLordJohn3191 many would want to help, few would have courage to.
Since always
JEFF
Wait how do you get tali’s mission before Tuchunka?
You cannot get Tali before Tuchanka. However, you only have to complete Priority: Tuchanka (The Shroud, cure or destroy the genophage) before recruiting Tali.
So you can investigate the Rachni rumors (find the missing Krogan scouts) for Wrex, which unlocks the The Shroud mission. You can save the Turian Platoon and Cerberus Bomb missions for later.
Notes:
- After rescuing the Turian Platoon, I believe you have up to three missions before the Cerberus Bomb explodes. (I have never let it explode; I can only tell you what other players have discovered)
- If you wait too long, you cannot rescue the Turian Platoon. If I recall, you cannot rescue the Turian platoon if you have completed Horizon/Sanctuary.
EDIT: Actually I think the mission to rescue the Turian platoon goes away either after you talk to the Asari Councillor (when she gives you the mission to go to Thessia), or after you complete Thessia.
Hope that helps.
EDIT: Actually I think the mission to rescue the Turian platoon goes away either after you talk to the Asari Councillor (when she gives you the mission to go to Thessia), or after you complete Thessia.
@@RedCaesar97 Does the magic of save editing work on ME3? Can you just cheat in all the squadmates at the beginning of the game to hear their voicelines, or will it break something?
@@intelfx86 I do not know. I have never edited any of my ME3 saves. I also do not know if anyone has edited ME3 to get all squadmates for any mission. I am sorry that I am unable to answer your question.
I wish Andromeda was this good
Considering crew interaction - Andromeda is actually far better. The writing aint deep BUT the crew felt more alive than anywhere in the trilogy.
Damn... that was deep
my name jeff
So... am I the only one who thinks its weird Tali is taking advice from an AI?
I mean, she will cry for Legion if you go the right route.
Is that so different from today? We ask Google questions.
@@FireLordJohn3191 ehhhh, given the Quarians past with sentient AI and Talis history specifically....
That's not really the same thing
Character development.
@@lucajohnen6719 And given the fact that Legion showed you that Geth could easily wiped Quarians if they chose to, this changes everything.
Quarians, at least in ME1 and some of the ME2, were always resentful of Geth, cause they expelled them from their homeworld.
But Koris in ME2 was right. They tried to disable all the Geth, even though Geth just wanted to live and serve. Hell, it was shown in their "memories" that they were even willing to reprogram themselves just to "suit" quarians need. But Quarians decided to try to kill them all. And that was why Geth retataliated. And even then, they allowed Quarians to escape.
Plus, by this point, Tali is already accustomed to the EDI. Especially if you recruited Legion and completed his loyalty mission in ME2. She even advocated to NOT try another strike at Geth like Gerrel and Xen wanted to.
In the end, what happened to Quarians was entirely their fault. They created something magnificent(networked intelligence, Geth) but instead of trying to truly understand what they achieved, they decided to destroy it. And i am not surprised that geth, even if they are AIs, decided to deffend themselves.
But it is kinda funny in my ME galaxy after ME3.
Genophade cured = Krogan-birthrate and expansion boom - Dangerous but deserved
Geth and Quarian peace = If Krogan ever starts another Rebellion, Geth should be more than able to send them to hell.
Rachni - They are forever in debt of humanity, more specifically, in debt of THE COMMANDER. They are supposedly not warlike species(Reapers or whatever messed with the queens that were alive during the Rachni wars) but history knows that if they choose to wage a galactic war, they are incredibly proficient at it.
And all of these species are in debt of Humanity/Commander Shephard. Which means that by the end of the Reapers War, humanity may be the most powerful force in the galaxy. Not only because of their military power, but also because they have "the most powerful" races in the galaxy to back them up. I mean Krogans needed to be "genetically altered" to be stopped. To stop Rachni, they needed to uplift Krogan. Noone knew what to do with Geth.
And then a lone human Commander come. Human, part of the species that wasn't even there when many of these problems arised, but they managed to solve all of them. In fact, during the Rachni Wars and Krogan Rebellion, people on Earth were too busy with killing each other with pointy sticks. When Quarians created Geth, humanity barely had a steam engine.
And if i have to choose, i would rather choose Geth, Krogan, Rachni to be in my debt than Asari(who would lie to you or hide the truth anyway,), Salarian(who would spy on you anyway) and Turians(not all of them are bad or stupid, but it was shown that their leadership is usually consisted of weak-minded fools, like Councilor for example, although Garrus rised my opinion on them alone, cause i really like his personality, he is bro).
And let the Salarians+Asari+Turains go against Krogan+Geth+Quarians+Humanity+Rachni. See how long they would hold.
A therapist, a bad takes your money and runs with words “Our time is up” and a good one, corrects your mistakes in “simulations” and gives you the opportunity to think, feel, and talk. Ironic coming from EDI but I digress
Wait they are talking about Primarch victus' son, but that is done during the tuchanka part of the game and I believe you cannot do it once you save/screw over tuchanka. But Tali only joins that crew until after Rannach, how? Or does doing the first part of Victus' rescue mean it goes on hold as long as you like? I've never tried that.
You need to do one of two missions to unlock the Shroud mission (cure/sabotage the genophage): discover what happened to Wrex's missing scouts, or rescue the Primarch's son. Doing either of one of those missions will open the priority Tuchanka mission where you can cure/sabotage the genophage.
If you rescue the Primarch's son, you have a three-mission limit to go disable the Cerberus bomb. If you do not play the mission to disable the bomb, it will explode and you will lose War assets.
Whichever Tuchanka mission you DO NOT choose to complete (rescue the platoon or find the missing Krogan scouts), you can complete the missions at any time after the final Tuchanka but before the Thessia mission. If you wait until after Thessia, then the mission may appear but you can no longer complete it.
So in the case of this video, I held off rescuing the Primarch's son until after I recruited Tali but before going to Thessia.
* Note that the cutoff for the mission may actually be talking to the Asari councillor, which gives you the Thessia mission.
Waitwaitwait, Victus' missions need to happen within a three mission count, or else Cerberus detonates the bomb and you automatically fail them both. Either way , they happen long before Tali joins the Normandy, so unless I'm misremembering something, how is this dialogue a thing..?
You can rescue Victus after Priority: Tuchanka (The Shroud, cure/sabotage the genophage), but before you talk to the Asari Councilor. In other words, you can recruit Tali and Ashley/Kaiden then rescue Victus and stop the bomb on Tuchanka.
If you have not rescued Victus and you talk to the Asari councilor (which unlocks Thessia), then "Turian Platoon" (rescue Victus) mission becomes unavailable. The mission may still appear on the galaxy map but you cannot play the mission.
Somesing is wrong with this Shepard.
Nightgaunt 2021I understand you perfectly
tali is so cute