XFX RX 590 Fatboy 8GB Review - PWNED by Sapphire RX 590 Nitro+
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- Опубліковано 1 чер 2024
- Today Dominic comes back after being sick and takes a look at the XFX RX 590 Fatboy GPU - and we find out it is not as good as the Sapphire RX590 Nitro+ that we reviewed a few weeks ago. The XFX is either loud and cool, or quiet and REALLY hot.
Read the full review on www.kitguru.net HERE: bit.ly/2PW7R4F
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CPU Intel Core i7-8700K - Overclocked to 4.8GHz
Motherboard ASUS ROG Strix Z370-F Gaming
Memory Team Group Dark Hawk RGB 16GB (2x8GB) @ 3200MHz 16-18-18-38
System Drive Patriot Wildfire 240GB
Games Drive Crucial M4 512GB
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Kind of a click bait title for such marginal differences in performance...
Dustin Doyle if you pay attention and also read the review you will see there is more to it than performance. Such as cooling and noise and two useless bios settings on the xfx.
The thing is that they technically should be the same card
As a owner of a XFX RX590 I can with high confidence say the XFX version of this card is not worth it. It's a MASSIVE pain to keep cool when used inside a case... like we do in the real world. With the case open, aircon on full, and a huge floor fan blasting air into the side of it, I was able to keep the card at around 75°C while gaming with the card running completely stock.
That is not a realistic way to use the thing though. With case closed, and 5 case fans, if I play a heavy game for about 2 hours, the card would crash. After a restart and going back into the game, it would then crash after about 15 minutes. This means the card is getting heavily heat soaked and my bet is that it's the stupid steel plate XFX used to bridge the gap between the VRAM modules and the main cooler.
Gamers Nexus did a video where they took it apart before even running the thing and just by looking at it suggested that the steel plate will be terrible. They were right. If only I saw that video before I thought about buying this stupid card...
When gaming, the damn thing blasted so much hot air everywhere in the case that it made my PCIe-1 slot overheat as well. I didn't even think to look at that until the ASUS software came up with a warning about the slot overheating. Crazy...
Synthetic tests would not make the card crash. I even tried manually lowering the fan speed so the GPU temp would climb past 80°C and although the card would thermal throttle like crazy, it would not crash. Run the game on the other hand for long enough and it would crash. The game in question is War Thunder and I also experienced the same crashing with Atlas.
Note, this is a hardware level crash... NOT software. After the crash, a simple reset would not bring it back. You have to power down the machine completely and then power it again before the display output would return. This means it's not a software crash, but a hardware level crash. Something on the card is overheating and causing it to crash. I can't verify what exactly since I don't have the right means to check what the thermals are for some of the components on the card.
Again, my bet is the VRAM since some idiot at XFX thought using steel to make up for their crappy cooler design was a better idea than just fixing the cooler design. And then to make it even worse, they were to cheap to add any thermal compound between said steel plate and the main cooler...
I have now moved the card to my 2de PCIe slot and mounted a 92mm, 4000 rpm fan (so 6 case fans now) just above the card on the rear of the case to try and pull as much hot air out as possible. This made my whole rig ridiculously loud and even if I manually set all case fans to 100% the card will still get up to 78-80°C when playing War Thunder for long enough.
Note, it is now winter here in South Africa and we see about 17-20°C during the day. During our summer we will see double that. So my current cooling is clearly not enough and after spending 2 days messing around with setup changes and thermal testing I have no choice but to cut a hole in my case to try and mount a fan on the bottom of the case to blast air straight up at the card and hope that makes enough of a difference for when summer comes around.
I did contact xfx about the issue and their official response was that I cannot return it and if I'm not happy with it I should try selling it on the used market. What a shait company...
I know this is not AMD's fault, but I'm done with AMD graphics and I will make sure everyone I know will stay far away from XFX. These companies love to under estimate the amount of influence we as IT professionals have. I myself have been building machines since high school and has worked as a software dev for 12 years now and in my 20 years of working with PCs I have never ever had overheating issues.
Currently my AMD fx8320 CPU is overclocked from 3.5Ghrz to 4.5Ghrz... it will max out in the low 50s while gaming. I did this with a cooler I salvaged from an old overclocked Intel system and then made my own steel brackets in my garage to make the cooler fit properly for my AMD setup. XFX has tons of engineers and loads of cash and couldn't handle cooling a stock card...
Screw you XFX. I out cooled XFX with some stainless steel bolts and nuts, a angle grinder, and some anti rust spray paint. XFX is pathetic.
Dude, in all honesty, thank you.
I am looking to upgrade from an R9 390X with such similar heat issues, mine was from Gigabyte, and I "made due" but I've spent 5 years trying to avoid 100c crashes in my computer at 720p resolutions with a card that should be doing so much more. I'm staying the hell away from this XFX card and just getting the sapphire - seriously thank you for the heads up.
You might be better off looking at a GTX1660. It's basically the same performance, but only 130 watts instead of the RX590 225watts... same performance at almost half the power draw and the less power draw there is the less heat there is to worry about. If you can wait and save up a bit more, the GTX 1660ti might be an ever better buy IMO. Hope it works out for you.
Sorry, I just realized that replied to myself and not you. Not sure if you saw my message, but I hope you came right in the end.
Bro it is good it does not overheat I have it. YOU SHOULS REPLACE THE THERMAL OF THE GPU OF YOU DONT THEN IT WILL OVERHEAT NO MATTER HOW MANY FANS YOU PUY.😂
You should not take criticism of a product so personally just because you happen to own it. My criticism is not directed at you or anyone who happens to own this exact product... it's aimed at the product and the brand. Furthermore, you are correct in that the GPU it self will not overheat. You can try this yourself... manually stop the fans and run a game. The GPU will down clock so hard that the game will barely run, but it won't overheat and you can see this with the app HWMonitor. The memory modules are a different story as XFX used a steal plate to help "cool" them, but steel is terrible for this kind of application. The memory modules is what overheated for me and those temps you can NOT see in HWMonitor.
Objectively speaking:
1. The RX590 chip set draws too much power for the performance it delivers. There are options that give the same FPS numbers at half the power draw of which the GTX1660ti is but one. You don't have to like it... this is just a fact.
2. XFX reused the exact same cooler from their RX580 which was not good to begin with. They are using steel in their cooler design... steel is horrible for this kind of cooling.
3. The experience of dealing with XFX support horrible.
After much argueing, XFX agreed to take back the card for testing and 4 days later I got a refund because I was right. 😉
Again, my criticism was directed at he product and XFX... not any person who may own this product. @@dancogames12332
The mentioned negatives are not a major concern as you can easily adjust important settings in Wattman. From my own experiences with a RX 570, there is a rather large headroom for undervolting on Polaris. So if you want to stay on stock clocks, you can easily tame the noise and temperature levels quite a bit. And what I consider a big plus is FreeSync support. You can get an amazingly smooth experience even with one of the cheaper models with a limited FreeSync range. Hence I'd rather pick such an AMD card over every Nvidia offering (AMD's pricing is also considerably better nowadays).
I ordered this card today - for an all black build 😎
Sooo do you recommand it after 10 months? Im thinking about buying it, what is your power supply?
Sooo.. What is your opinion after 10 months? :P
I have changed my mind, this is the worst GPU i have ever owned, I returned it for a 5700 due to the fact it overheated, crashed, had driver issues, and was very loud. :)
welcome back Dominic, missed you :-)
Ummm... Has anyone noticed the amount of comment bots on this video? So many fake comments from sus accounts. Makes me question the upvote numbers too.
Great review. Do you have to use both the 6 and 8 pin connector?
Thanks for the noise and heat comparison charts! Should be in the title ;)
1:45 are you for real?! Measuring length diagonally?!
Wishing you all the best!
How much did you spend on bots?
Brother, thanks for the technological information, greetings from Venezuela
i have the xfx 590 fatboy and it hasnt been above 45 decibles I upgraded from a Sapphire FX7950. That card (I know- its nearly 6yrs old) was amazing but really loud. I plan to buy another 590. I really like the blue leds
What is your opinion about your Farboy after 5 month? Good choice to buy?
Just got to building my first PC and Just nabbed one of these for £170 from CCL computers, dont know if thats good but for the power it sedms like a deal. It was this or a 4gb 5500xt for the same price and went for this because of the 590 being 200+ everywhere else - some were £300!? Think the sapphire was around £234 - and an extra 4gb memory on the 590 along with a ryzen 5 3400g, 16gb 3000mhz ram and 500gb m2 ssd for £700 with an asus b450m-a mboard...
Moore's laws been busy since my last look at pc components years ago
Just ordered one of these from the egg to replace a xfx rx 580 black edition bought 3 days ago at best buy. After the $20 rebate its an even swap at $219.99.
I learned quite a bit from the RX 580 black like the preset fan control is set to cook the card rather than make noise. Hell you have to access the AMD global wattman setting and turn off zero fan. Yes the card would cook with the fans OFF by design.
With some tweaking the 580 does well in MWO I would imagine the clock boost with the 590 should do ever slightly better or as good with less stress.
So how exactly nitro+ pwning fatboy? Because all I see is almost same temperatures, performance and nosie. Only difference is that xfx actually consumes less power lmfao.
Maybe the looks.
Yeah, and it costs 30-50e less. lol XFX all day.
Clickbait
I recently got Rx 590 Gigabyte... How do I lower it's GPU temperature? any idea/solution? I will be playing at 1080p
Thanks a lot, i have watching videos now
Much happier than I chose the Sapphire over the FaTbOi
sapphires are sexy cards.
@@khmergodhobbies they go great with a white and blue build
I have the Fatboy, with the 3 extra case fans I bought and installed, its quiet and temps don't reach over 65 degrees Celsius. plus red and black imo looks better
This card looks really nice in an all black Ryzen build though
Same here. Fatboy looks.. ew. Plus I don't know the brand enough to trust them with my wallet.
Hey I need help downloading the drivers it isn’t clear on where
To download them at all
I just realized its the same basic fan casement used on the red 570
Might run better under UBUNTU Latest version than windows because no DirectX as everything is OpenGL and ALSA.
The look of the card comes dead last when deciding to buy a GPU. FPS, noise, and heat along with price are what counts
I know it's pretty off topic but do anybody know a good site to stream new movies online ?
I recently got Rx 590 Gigabyte... How do I lower it's GPU temperature? any idea/solution? I will be playing at 1080p
BUENA EXPLICACIÓN SIGAN ASÍ
What edition did you test the 1545 or 1580 mhz edition?
What is the maximum frequency for XFX AMD Radeon ™ RX 590 Fatboy 8GB?
love this video
can any one tell me how many times he says shroud in start
of the video
sigue asi amigo vas muy bien
I don't know if they changed them or not but My Fatboy came with the memory clocked at 8k.
What is your opinion about your Farboy after 7 month? Good choice to buy?
Does this come with the 6 and 8 pin cable
Who cares how loud a card is? What?
Does it run well? Is it hot?
lol last thing I care about is how loud the fans are.
Headphones on head and nobody cares, peace
You would if you had the card
@@yasinali6602 I do haha
@@yasinali6602 I also have the card, like said you have headphones on? Yeah the fatboy runs hot and thats why you crank the fans up
But i hear the Sapphire RX590 has coil whine vs the fatboy
Wow. Best of the best
590 Sapphire Nitro+ SE properly OCd to 1670
590, 580 8GB, 570 4GB, 480 8GB, 970, 1060 6GB ALL OCed i7-6700k 4.6GHz FPS test 1080p watts temps ua-cam.com/video/KiaUjaEtSJQ/v-deo.html
1080/1440 gameplay with watts and temps Sapphire nitro+ SE OC 590
ua-cam.com/video/V_lmt1W5XhY/v-deo.html
ua-cam.com/video/PY4PmH5C1eA/v-deo.html
Battlefield 5 RX 590 OC i7 6700k 4.7GHz FPS benchmark. 1080p Temps watts
ua-cam.com/video/Mk0oLZHQt5A/v-deo.html
Battlefield V RX 590 (Multiplayer) 1080p Ultra settings
ua-cam.com/video/Mk0oLZHQt5A/v-deo.html
Darksiders III RX 590 OC | 1080p EPIC / HIGH
ua-cam.com/video/kor_8RFotUc/v-deo.html
Battlefield 1 RX 590 OC (Multiplayer) 1080p Ultra preset
ua-cam.com/video/a96vyIaaeZ0/v-deo.html
Am I the only one who keeps on repeating the video because it's so good
But the color of the sapphire destroys my black red aesthetic build.
same, both cards are the same price on Amazon right now, i'm buying the FatBoy
I'm happy I discovered this
Much happier with my sapphire, i had the sapphire 480 now the sapphire 590 and it just laughs at whatever i throw at it :D
throw 4k at it
@@MegaDominik1 Not cool , man , not cool.
@@darkdevil6508 xD
@@MegaDominik1 That was kinda dark man.
Does the Sapphire 590 have a BIOS switch? (By that I mean an actual switch on the board).
Sorry but the Comment about thermal throttling is simply wrong since its power limit throttling. The Card is only not going for the max clock since the TDP is configurated at 196 Watt in bios. since it has the higher core clock you have to use the increased power Limit. If you increase the memory to 2100MHz too its faster then the Nitro. even the 2250Mhz are possible. !BUT . Due to the Design i wouldn't recomment doing this since 1 Memory bracket is placed in the front between the CPU and the VRMs. Since there is no Temp Sensor you dont know how high in temperature this chip is going. Warranty wise they will know you had extreme overclock if only this one chip is faulty. I don't know how XFX is reacting to overclocking damage. The Nitro uses the same memory placement.
The Testcard i had was able to go with 1580 core (more possible but irrelevant), 1075 vcore , 2250 memory (don't recomment it whithout checking with Infrared checking temp - a thermalpad on the backsite between pcb and backplate with removed plastic cover can increase cooling), powerlimit +50. which resultet in a furmark fps increase from 115 fps to 130 and 199Watt power draw.
Watched this 5 times today...
The most underrated video on UA-cam! Period.
This is something worth getting hyped for.
So..... any gamers here worried much about noise over performance?
fuck no lol dumbest thing I've ever heard of. I don't care if it sounds like a jet engine, I care if it works well.
@@retropulse03 noise level is undeniably an important aspect.
So should i pay 35eur more for the sapphire one?
No ...
No
I AM IN LOVE WITH THIS ️️️️ I want to re-play again and again!
Undercooled. That shit heatsink is good for a 570
I love this video very very much ️️
At ua-cam.com/video/2HT8XZRvHYw/v-deo.html
Do you have your 980 Ti numbers backwards on the Far Cry 5 page? As the Avg FPS is lower than the min FPS!
Wow I have so many feels right now
for anyone wanting to get this card, dont! The card crashes at 82-83 degrees Celsius and this is because the heatsink sucks
Oh but it doesn't. You just have a doa card and should return it
@@trey534 except it isnt dead on arrival, I just had to change the fan speed settings so it wouldnt overheat to 82-83 degrees celsius and crash. You clearly dont have this card because many people are having this problem buddy
@@kurraymurray I clearly do have this card. I have never had this problem and infact as I'm playing red dead, it averages around 83 with the standard settings. I'm saying you may have a defective card. No card should crash at 83 degrees.
@@kurraymurray If you still believe I don't have this card I can send pictures....
@@trey534 I hope you are talking about the fatyboy cause if not you are dumb.
My shit crashes every second
is this card bad?
ordered mine i do 1080 only
What is your opinion about your Farboy after 9 month? Good choice to buy?
You couldn't pay me to buy a bright blue gpu. I would rather get a 580 new for 200, or a used 1070 for the same 200$
well you can change the color of the rx 5x00 from sapphire to dark blue or red if you want
Watched! Now replay time :)
AlphaBoy vs ThiccBoi.
Ladies and gentlemen, we got em !
😂
And just like that I am now inspired
So many bot answers on this video. Sad...
#360pclub
OBSESSED
Well, if you are considering an amd graphics card your first choice should be a sapphire. Better build quality and cooling.
Nowhere in this review does that prove Sapphire is better than XFX. use your eyes
Ok why am I just finding this
Ithnk we all know who the real "Fatboy" is here.....I found the kid who reviewed Miracle Whip more interesting.....Snooze fest
Any AMD gpu over $200 is a ripoff! THe GTX 1060 over $200 also ripoff. WTF? The 1060 3gb released for $160. XFX is cheap bottom of barrel products...