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Yellow is such a great color. Manufacturers should start using yellow instead of black or white all the time. We need yellow graphic cards, fans, mobos, cpu coolers, and memory sticks.
i built a bumblee one just a couple weeks ago. Thermaltake has a software to rotate all their LCDs and customize them with whatever image or gifs you want. =) however that software has nothing for ARGB fans, only RGB(with controller) - so you might want to download another program for ARGB.
great looking build - love the yellow color scheme, i like what thermaltake are doing lately - not always (dont like their peripherals but some of their cases are great).
Nice. I have the og tower 100 mini since launch very pleased with it. The microphohe/headphone sockets are labelled wrong way round which took me a while to realise.
Would have been great to see some temperature testing. These vertical cases are known to often have issues with GPU's for example due to GPU Vapor Chamber orientation for example.
The one fail? Laying it horizontal. The asymmetry ... No. Just NO! Otherwise, I wanted one in British Racing Green the moment I laid eyes on it at whatever show they first previewed it at, I like it in Hydrangea and Pink too. Now Bumblebee; a Mancunian thing appropriately. Curiously they all come out ahead of Snow.
The LCD is connected over USB and controlled by Thermaltake software. You can upload an image, select an image from a small library or pick system info from a list they provide. Leo
From the outside of the case, you got 2xUSB3, 1x USB-Cm and audio. That is it. Access to anything beyond that, is really, really a mess. The case is wide enough to accommodate a full ATX MB, but due to a design choice of placing that AIO where it is, that is not supported. Thus, this case is deliberately wider than it needs to be. Also, why use a 420 AIO for an 7800x3d? Due to the design choice, there need to be extra room below the PSU and there is a ton of room on top of the PSU till the end of the mobo. There is quite a lot of space between the rear IO and the top fan, but I am not sure that there is the needed 80mm of clearing. If the cables are too long, they get cut by fan blades. Also, the choice of having fans on the top, further extends the height, as to accomdate fans on the top. That is, at least 105mm is needed above the rear IO, to fit it all. I simply don't get this design. It is un-elegant in so many ways, that I simply don't like it. I just don't get why? Why don they design this way? To what end? What is the vision? What is the expression? Seems like I would get a ton of functional answers, but not really any answers as to form. Not to mention the resulting "functional" size, which is enormous. Why this huge size is functional for what it is, I just don't get?
I love the look of that case but I'm wondering how feasible it is to get a custom hardtube loop in there, even if only for the CPU, with that 420 rad support that would be an amazing build
If you have the case on it's side, that would be doable i think. a 420 rad at the "top" as exhaust. A pump/res combo mounted on the PSU shroud. Every other fan set to intake. That could be a full CPU and GPU loop. It might also be doable with the case upright. If you could mount the pump/res combo to the rad.
The box is very nice and the assembly is simple, but where do the normal 3.5 hard drives go and the rest? It doesn't come ready for the new boards that have the cables underneath, that stops me from buying it.
Gorgeous build. I do like the case when it's on its side but I do think they've missed an opportunity to offer more USB ports, either on the replacement bottom panel or on the cut-out instead of the LCD. One question: you mentioned that the Zotac is a triple slot card; does the case allow you to use the fourth expansion slot? For example in my mATX PC in a Kolink Citadel Mesh I have a RTX 3090 FE in the GPU slot and a 10 GbE NIC in the end x4 slot.
I was looking into this case for my next build, anyone know if you can set the 420mm aio as a pull intake? (so you can see the fans on the inside and easy cleaning)
Nice build , i really like this case to be able to instal a 420 AIO it's really something, I have a question about the air flow, can the 2 top fans and bottom fans be mounted as intake and those on the Aio cooler as exhaust ?, thanks
you can but it's not optimal, your GPU is already drawing air from the side so might as well have the AIO do the same (also better aio performance because it's drawing in cold air instead of already hot air) and then pulling from the bottomand pushing air out on top
I like the style, the innovation, but lets be real, this is a micro-ATX build but this case is larger than my full ATX Fractal North build ... what even the point ?
Qualifying the 12VHPWR as "good when it works" is a terrible attitude. It's a plug, there should be no option for it not to work, especially when the failure mode is property damage or worse.
Fairly sure that was a joke. They have discussed the problems before in videos. This is a build not an analysis of Nvidia issues which Dominic talked about in the past
Actually we have created articles on this subject over on www.kitguru.net and Dominic has spoken to nvidia about it in the past, reported on it, created videos, and I have spoken to companies like Seasonic about what was causing it, why, and how to avoid it. I touched upon it in my power supply reviews as well over here: tinyurl.com/25beprnv. The standards have changed multiple times since the early days too. Its massively indepth. This isn't 'qualifying' anything today, this is a build video and Leo cracked a semi joke in passing, it was not an indepth analysis of cabling standards. I appreciate you arent a regular, but we have done some work on this before - but if we were to hijack a build video for thermaltake and start delving into problems, solutions and cures on cabling, it seems a bad place to do it (again). thanks Allan (Editor in Chief).
I don't know why no reviewer talk about the problems of vertical gpus temperatures. 90% of gpu or more with heatpipes and also with vapor chambers have problems in this mounting position. This posizion, with i/o panel facing up to ceiling is the worst position and some gpus reach 110 degress hot spot and more than 10 degrees mid temps !! Some cases, like Corsair 2000D can mount gpu opposite of tower 200 (with i/o panel to the floor) and the temperature are normal...no, are better than classic horizontal position! Anyway....NO ONE TELL US ABOUT THIS ! Why ? because $$$$$$$ p.s.: this is not a spam comment, this is a comment from a pc builder for pc builders
Ok guys, but it's a thing to say. I've tried a lot of case and positions, and it's a common issue. This Is a thing to say everytime when the build Is a build like that, but i repeat: no one tell about this problem! Showing temperature, when GPU hasn't got the problem doesn't mean anything. You review a case, a lot of people Will buy this case but not all Will buy the same card . Good Surprise when their GPU Will reach 110 junction temps and fan Will reach 3000 RPM. Oh, what a sound, and what a hot.
@@KitGuruTech I have this issue with my GPU : My Gigabyte RTX 4080 Super Aero tops at 86 degrees hanging in The Tower 300 instead of 72 degrees in my previous case. I had multiple game crashes because of the GPU's high temperatures. Even idle temps are 5-10 degrees higher than usual. I contacted Thermaltake two weeks ago and asked for GPU recommendations. Still no answer...
all this plastik lasts 5 years at the most. no thanks. (Phantecs Evolve Shift X did this kind of design years ago but nothing comes close to that quality anymore)
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Я бы купил у вас, но к сожалению я живу в России....
Im listing after this case , would prefer a bright red though .
We need more innovation like this in the gaming industry.
The best Bumblebee Build/review thus far.... I got stung and now I must have one to build in. Thanks Leo, thanks-a-lot!
I love watching this guy's videos. It's like watching a little kid play with toys. Very thorough and informative!
My favorite color combo, black and yellow. Really enjoying this build.
Go on the cats hurling KK
Thank you for showcase this. Dang the end result is like the.. futuristic shooter loot box game.
Put it on castors, fit a filter bag & hose to make it double as a vacuum cleaner.
Quite funny that yellow on black colour scheme really makes it look massive.
surprised it could take such a huge gpu. Seems quite a good design overall for fitting high end components.
Yellow is such a great color. Manufacturers should start using yellow instead of black or white all the time. We need yellow graphic cards, fans, mobos, cpu coolers, and memory sticks.
Awesome build Leo. Love the laid back approach ❤
I liked the board. Never saw that one before. Nice find Leo.
Quite like the yellow makes a change from the usual black or white.
That is such a nice amount of hardware going into that case!
Do like this design been hoping you guys would review this ever since you featured it at CES.
I think that is beautiful - wont appeal to everyone I guess, but I love yellow - cars, motorbikes - why not PC cases -- dont often see them !
i built a bumblee one just a couple weeks ago. Thermaltake has a software to rotate all their LCDs and customize them with whatever image or gifs you want. =)
however that software has nothing for ARGB fans, only RGB(with controller) - so you might want to download another program for ARGB.
great looking build - love the yellow color scheme, i like what thermaltake are doing lately - not always (dont like their peripherals but some of their cases are great).
Always like Thermaltake stuff think thats a very cool design for a case.
haha thats a fun build - loved it Leo !
Nice. I have the og tower 100 mini since launch very pleased with it. The microphohe/headphone sockets are labelled wrong way round which took me a while to realise.
Thermaltake had a bad rep for along time, but this one almost makes me want to build a PC with this case!
I have one of their open designs from a few years back and it’s great.
Yeah have to chip in and say that’s really really different. Would look good in my Lamborghini. Just need to buy one now.
Great review Leo.
Nice build Leo 👌🏻
That thing is a cyberpunk spongebob looking eyesore. They should have doubled down and given it brown pants.
Id be more interested in the Thermals with this case.
I was wondering if you were going to do a build... This is my next one.
I’m trying to find this case to buy for a birthday gift !
Would have been great to see some temperature testing. These vertical cases are known to often have issues with GPU's for example due to GPU Vapor Chamber orientation for example.
Scale the banana with another banana. We don’t know if that banana is up to banana size standards
I prefer BPF (Bananas-per-feet) for measurement it's more consistant.
Thats the least turned on I've ever been watching someone on the internet eat a banana but I do love your reviews.
Well at least you know your mental health is good then 😀
thankfully it doesn’t have those white 25 anniversary stickers. Nice colour to be fair.
Fair enough!
The one fail? Laying it horizontal. The asymmetry ... No. Just NO! Otherwise, I wanted one in British Racing Green the moment I laid eyes on it at whatever show they first previewed it at, I like it in Hydrangea and Pink too. Now Bumblebee; a Mancunian thing appropriately. Curiously they all come out ahead of Snow.
Love the front LCD, love the case shape, hate that colour scheme.
If only they had installed the 'rear' io at the other end, making it a 'front' io, but at least it would have been useable.
Kind of cool being able to orientate it horizontally. Where does the LCD display get its info? What exactly does it display?
The LCD is connected over USB and controlled by Thermaltake software. You can upload an image, select an image from a small library or pick system info from a list they provide.
Leo
Lol. Banana for color coordination 😅
Great review!!
Glad you enjoyed it
Otima construção pena que no Brasil esse equipamento custa um rim, grato pelo video.
OK I’m going to say it because no one else has. What a Ghastly colour scheme.
looks like a vending machine 😊
I hve the small screen and TT RGB software allows you to flip the screen to be on portait
Love that tower. Shame its only micro atx. i wonder if you can fit a standard atx?.
that bottom part with the psu looks a bit space restricted. I assume you got all the cables in as it was covered later.
From the outside of the case, you got 2xUSB3, 1x USB-Cm and audio. That is it. Access to anything beyond that, is really, really a mess. The case is wide enough to accommodate a full ATX MB, but due to a design choice of placing that AIO where it is, that is not supported. Thus, this case is deliberately wider than it needs to be. Also, why use a 420 AIO for an 7800x3d? Due to the design choice, there need to be extra room below the PSU and there is a ton of room on top of the PSU till the end of the mobo. There is quite a lot of space between the rear IO and the top fan, but I am not sure that there is the needed 80mm of clearing. If the cables are too long, they get cut by fan blades. Also, the choice of having fans on the top, further extends the height, as to accomdate fans on the top. That is, at least 105mm is needed above the rear IO, to fit it all.
I simply don't get this design. It is un-elegant in so many ways, that I simply don't like it. I just don't get why? Why don they design this way? To what end? What is the vision? What is the expression? Seems like I would get a ton of functional answers, but not really any answers as to form. Not to mention the resulting "functional" size, which is enormous. Why this huge size is functional for what it is, I just don't get?
Fire 🔥🔥
why no one is showing where to connect HDMI, DP cables :D Never seen a build like this, I got White version and waiting on other parts.
I love the look of that case but I'm wondering how feasible it is to get a custom hardtube loop in there, even if only for the CPU, with that 420 rad support that would be an amazing build
That would be challenging I think....
If you have the case on it's side, that would be doable i think. a 420 rad at the "top" as exhaust. A pump/res combo mounted on the PSU shroud. Every other fan set to intake. That could be a full CPU and GPU loop. It might also be doable with the case upright. If you could mount the pump/res combo to the rad.
The box is very nice and the assembly is simple, but where do the normal 3.5 hard drives go and the rest? It doesn't come ready for the new boards that have the cables underneath, that stops me from buying it.
I hope your MB came with WIFI extension cables to move the antenna to the outside of the case.
Gorgeous build. I do like the case when it's on its side but I do think they've missed an opportunity to offer more USB ports, either on the replacement bottom panel or on the cut-out instead of the LCD.
One question: you mentioned that the Zotac is a triple slot card; does the case allow you to use the fourth expansion slot? For example in my mATX PC in a Kolink Citadel Mesh I have a RTX 3090 FE in the GPU slot and a 10 GbE NIC in the end x4 slot.
I was looking into this case for my next build, anyone know if you can set the 420mm aio as a pull intake? (so you can see the fans on the inside and easy cleaning)
Front IO would have worked better in that case, or maybe its just me
Nice build , i really like this case to be able to instal a 420 AIO it's really something, I have a question about the air flow, can the 2 top fans and bottom fans be mounted as intake and those on the Aio cooler as exhaust ?, thanks
you can but it's not optimal, your GPU is already drawing air from the side so might as well have the AIO do the same (also better aio performance because it's drawing in cold air instead of already hot air) and then pulling from the bottomand pushing air out on top
arctic freezer II 360 will be a problem installing on this case right?
cant put fans on the GPU side cover?
When are they going to release this case for a regular ATX board???
There is an obvious opening in their product stack for The Tower 400
Leo
I have a tower 300 case, but i can't chose witch one Cooler use on a 360 thermaltake and a Noctua NH-D15s...
Can the right cover of the psu be removed? I use Corsair Shift, the outputs are on the right side.
Do ATX/regular Motherboard fit or you have to go with mini?
I like the style, the innovation, but lets be real, this is a micro-ATX build but this case is larger than my full ATX Fractal North build ... what even the point ?
ive seen some gpu's have issues with this position in the tower 300. I'm buying the 4090 of zotac, did yours have any temp problems?
Qualifying the 12VHPWR as "good when it works" is a terrible attitude. It's a plug, there should be no option for it not to work, especially when the failure mode is property damage or worse.
Fairly sure that was a joke. They have discussed the problems before in videos. This is a build not an analysis of Nvidia issues which Dominic talked about in the past
Actually we have created articles on this subject over on www.kitguru.net and Dominic has spoken to nvidia about it in the past, reported on it, created videos, and I have spoken to companies like Seasonic about what was causing it, why, and how to avoid it. I touched upon it in my power supply reviews as well over here: tinyurl.com/25beprnv. The standards have changed multiple times since the early days too. Its massively indepth.
This isn't 'qualifying' anything today, this is a build video and Leo cracked a semi joke in passing, it was not an indepth analysis of cabling standards. I appreciate you arent a regular, but we have done some work on this before - but if we were to hijack a build video for thermaltake and start delving into problems, solutions and cures on cabling, it seems a bad place to do it (again). thanks Allan (Editor in Chief).
Just don’t bend the cables into the gpu. It’s simple. Solved ages ago.
Is that yellow or gold?
inaccessible IO and GPU displayport = no for me.
I don't know why no reviewer talk about the problems of vertical gpus temperatures. 90% of gpu or more with heatpipes and also with vapor chambers have problems in this mounting position. This posizion, with i/o panel facing up to ceiling is the worst position and some gpus reach 110 degress hot spot and more than 10 degrees mid temps !! Some cases, like Corsair 2000D can mount gpu opposite of tower 200 (with i/o panel to the floor) and the temperature are normal...no, are better than classic horizontal position! Anyway....NO ONE TELL US ABOUT THIS ! Why ? because $$$$$$$
p.s.: this is not a spam comment, this is a comment from a pc builder for pc builders
I literally showed you GPU temperatures
Leo
@@KitGuruTech I was about to say, its in the video - boy oh boy.
Ok guys, but it's a thing to say. I've tried a lot of case and positions, and it's a common issue. This Is a thing to say everytime when the build Is a build like that, but i repeat: no one tell about this problem! Showing temperature, when GPU hasn't got the problem doesn't mean anything. You review a case, a lot of people Will buy this case but not all Will buy the same card . Good Surprise when their GPU Will reach 110 junction temps and fan Will reach 3000 RPM. Oh, what a sound, and what a hot.
I’m afraid I’ve no idea what you are saying mate 🤷🏻♂️
@@KitGuruTech I have this issue with my GPU : My Gigabyte RTX 4080 Super Aero tops at 86 degrees hanging in The Tower 300 instead of 72 degrees in my previous case.
I had multiple game crashes because of the GPU's high temperatures. Even idle temps are 5-10 degrees higher than usual.
I contacted Thermaltake two weeks ago and asked for GPU recommendations. Still no answer...
all this plastik lasts 5 years at the most. no thanks. (Phantecs Evolve Shift X did this kind of design years ago but nothing comes close to that quality anymore)